tg implicated in ACORN scandal

[thx1138]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e43_1224086229&p=1

[hippifried]

Oh no!!! That's just whorable!

We have to do something about this "acorn" thing.

[trish]

So will the "Popeyes", "Mickey Mouse's", and "Wacko, Yakko and Dots" that have been registered to vote actually somehow magically appear at the polls and be allowed to vote? I don't get it. What's the point in registering non-people under fake names to begin with?

[hippifried]

They hire people & pay them by how many names they get registered. This has been a problem whenever there's been paid registrars. Same with signiature gatherers for initiatives & candidate qualifiers. There's always names that don't belong & it doesn't matter who or what's involved. That's why all pettitioners shoot for at least 15 to 20% over the needed number.

[Tiffany Anne]

To expand on hippifried's comments:

The people are paid by the name, so some who just want to get paid, just fill out forms with whatever.

In the current "scandal" ACORN identified a bunch of fraudulent forms, but the law says every form has to be turned in. So they turned them in and said "We think these are fraudulent."

And the R's turned around and said "SEE! They're trying to cheat!"

It's all a smoke screen.

[trish]

So let me understand this. The only one hurt (in the case of registering non-people to vote) is the agencies that inadvertantly hired these cheaters to register real voters. Nobody actually gets to vote who shouldn't?

[NYBURBS]

So let me understand this. The only one hurt (in the case of registering non-people to vote) is the agencies that inadvertantly hired these cheaters to register real voters. Nobody actually gets to vote who shouldn't?

I'll look it up but my understanding is that the history of this type of stuff has a lot of dead people (among others) actually voting.

[NYBURBS]

OK well I found this paper and it claims that the whole voter fraud problem is dramatically over-inflated. Enjoy the read lol:

http://truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/TruthAboutVoterFraud.pdf

[Mugai_hentaisha]

OK well I found this paper and it claims that the whole voter fraud problem is dramatically over-inflated. Enjoy the read lol:

http://truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/TruthAboutVoterFraud.pdf

Wow what a read, I feel,,,,,older :P

I am not declaring shenanigans especially with names like Mickey mouse and others but you know how well the people running the poles are going to be checking ID's hell I just give my name they don't even look at any form of ID.

So?????

TES
William

[SarahG]

So let me understand this. The only one hurt (in the case of registering non-people to vote) is the agencies that inadvertantly hired these cheaters to register real voters. Nobody actually gets to vote who shouldn't?

I'll look it up but my understanding is that the history of this type of stuff has a lot of dead people (among others) actually voting.

Hey now, don't knock our most sacred traditions. I think the bigger question is, in what elections HAVEN'T dead people managed to vote for candidates? :D

There are allegations regarding this particular group beyond dead voter registrations, but in terms of voting stuff the fear is that a pile of fraudulent registrations will slip through and then piles of people using fake names will arrive from out of town by the busload on election day to vote.

I would be more concerned about recent reports of states throwing out registrations, or pruning people from voting rosters without a legal basis for doing so. This can range from good intentions (removing people who have died off or moved away) to bad (removing people without DMV records, people in districts inclined to vote for a given party). The problem is that if a state removes someone who SHOULD have stayed on the list (accidents, bad intention- whatever) then that individual(s) will go to the voting booth on election day, find they're not on the books and won't be able to vote.

In most states you can't register on the spot, so if you're not on the books on election day you simply can't vote "until next time"- this happened to me before which is how I know about it (its why I couldn't vote in 2004). I had voted before, I had my voter reg card- everything was by the books, but the rosters didn't have me on it... and the state couldn't find a reason for my absence. Having known a few people to run polling locations, I can't say my experience was unusual.

The statistics I remember from the AP wire of last week was for every acorn registration, in many of these battleground states like Ohio we've seen several times that figure removed by state pruning efforts, and the vast majority of these efforts (even when they are good intentioned) are actually illegal.

[yodajazz]

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[thx1138]

Yoda, thanx: I thought this gurl looked familiar. She's plenty hot which peeked my interest initially. I think her cock shot was photoshopped. (sadly)

[thx1138]

John McCain attended an ACORN meeting:
http://newsone.blackplanet.com/elections/mccain-attended-acorn-convention/

[Cuchulain]

Tiffany Anne, NYBURB's link to the Brennan Center and SarahG pretty much covered the ACORN (non)scandal. No false registration attempts by ACORN or anyone else will represent an actual vote. The massive purging of legitimate voters is the real scandal. That's what happened in Florida 2000 via Katherine Harris and ChoicePoint, Inc.

The whole voter fraud thing is just a scam by Republicans to cover up their own election fraud. Remember 'Attorney-gate'. DOJ prosecutors were told to chase down voter fraud. They did their best and came back and said they couldn't find any. Karl Rove didn't like that answer and they were fired.

That being said, America has a long tradition of fraud in elections. The ol' rascal Pat Buchanan told a story on 'Morning Joe' the other day about the 1960 Presidential race. Pat wanted Nixon to contest the obvious shenanigans perpetrated by Mayor Daily in Chicago on behalf of JFK. He was told by the campaign manager to "shut up" because "the old man stole Kentucky". "We would have all gone to jail" Buchanan laughed.

[chefmike]

The massive purging of legitimate voters is the real scandal. That's what happened in Florida 2000 via Katherine Harris and ChoicePoint, Inc.

The whole voter fraud thing is just a scam by Republicans to cover up their own election fraud. Remember 'Attorney-gate'. DOJ prosecutors were told to chase down voter fraud. They did their best and came back and said they couldn't find any. Karl Rove didn't like that answer and they were fired.

Exactly.