Canada votes

[jaycanuck]

this is a bit late. Just reminding canadians to vote today.

[Ben]

this is a bit late. Just reminding canadians to vote today.

Canadians, according to Ralph Nader, actually have some competition [& choice] when it comes to politics. You've got the Conservatives, Liberals, NDP, the Green Party and the Bloc. Choice. Competition. Unlike America that essentially has two factions of the business party.... :(

[trannybanger]

What is Canada?

[jaycanuck]

it's the country where the banks are still operating.

[bassman2546]

Great reply Jay. Silenced the critics.

And might I add, my house is still retaining it's great value as opposed to...

[jaycanuck]

sorry...double post.

[trannybanger]

Ah yes... the Loonie.

Just roughing you up chaps. Relax.

But in reality, just because the banks are not currently in danger of insolvency does not mean that Canucks aren't in the same boat as everyone else. Toronto Stock Exchange took a huge hit last week as well. Canada will not be standing strong and wealthy as the rest of the free world slides, that is for sure. Look at Canada's economic history in relation to that of the U.S.

[jaycanuck]

In the end, banks are greedy...no matter what country you're in. Keeping money under the mattress is looking more and more tempting.

[bassman2546]

Ah yes... the Loonie.

Just roughing you up chaps. Relax.

But in reality, just because the banks are not currently in danger of insolvency does not mean that Canucks aren't in the same boat as everyone else. Toronto Stock Exchange took a huge hit last week as well. Canada will not be standing strong and wealthy as the rest of the free world slides, that is for sure. Look at Canada's economic history in relation to that of the U.S.

Oh of course, the U.S. is hitting hard times so of course the rest of the world would follow suit. Yeah right. Sure the TSX took a hit and why? Because of the greedy moronic idiots in the U.S. And just so you know, just because your government wasn't prepared for such a hit doesn't mean that we aren't. Many countries of the world look at how our country is being run and, in some areas, are trying to mirror that. The U.S.? lol, I don't think so. Our banks are secure and the housing in my area is still holding its value.

Just because we share a border doesn't mean we make the same mistakes. If I was standing near a pile of shit, I'd do my best not to smell like that pile of shit.

[trannybanger]

Oh of course, the U.S. is hitting hard times so of course the rest of the world would follow suit. Yeah right. Sure the TSX took a hit and why? Because of the greedy moronic idiots in the U.S. And just so you know, just because your government wasn't prepared for such a hit doesn't mean that we aren't. Many countries of the world look at how our country is being run and, in some areas, are trying to mirror that. The U.S.? lol, I don't think so. Our banks are secure and the housing in my area is still holding its value.

Just because we share a border doesn't mean we make the same mistakes. If I was standing near a pile of shit, I'd do my best not to smell like that pile of shit.

Canadians always seem to be a bit sensitive, eh?

Are you telling me there are no greedy moronic idiots in Canada? Yes, I forgot, all Canadians are known for fiscal conservativeness and preparing for anything and everything.

The economy of the US accounts for over 1/5th of the world's economy and almost more than the entire EU. If you believe that there are no effects trickling down to the rest of the world you are blind. It is happening now, and will continue and Canada is not immune. Saying banks are secure and housing is holding value, is a personal perception as well as something that could change overnight.

And since you are apparently in the mood to just let me know things, please enlighten me to a country that is attempting to mirror the government of Candada and how the country is run.

[BeardedOne]

it's the country where the banks are still operating.

Both of them. :wink:

I used to have an account at Bank of Montreal (You know, the one from the song: "Jesus saves his money at the Bank of Montreal!") and loved how easy they were to deal with and always helpful with questions and account issues. At a time (1984) when US banks made it near impossible to open an account and make deposits BoM not only welcomed my business but made it exceptionally efficient to run all of my Canadian funds through them (Sans the exorbitant fees for exchange).

I miss those daze.

[jaycanuck]

If any one was interested, the results last night are sort of what they are now. The Conservative party still is a minority government. Which to me seemed to work last time anyway.

We have 5 parties up here. There are 308 members in the house of commons..each representing a different area of the country. Basically you have to have 155 seats to win the majority and the Conservatives got 143.

Although things may be slow moving through the house of commons..what I like about the other parties having large chunks of the representation is that it keeps the ruling party in check. It also makes for an unstable house though in that at any time the opposition parties can call for a vote of non-confidence on an issue and force another election.

[Ben]

Un-progressive conservative leader, Stephen Harper, a Bush clone, won again. Albeit a minority government. But basically a de facto majority.
59 percent of Canadians voted. That's less than Britain. Less than, my God, America.
Don't know why Canadians are so apathetic. (On the one day that people have actual power, well, 41 percent couldn't be bothered to vote and exercise that power.)
As a Bush clone he wants to cut social programs (which, as I've read, most Canadians are more than happy to pay for) and increase military spending. Sound familiar?
As part of Canada First Defense Strategy, well, hubris Harper wants to spend $490 billion over the next 20 years. This is a HUGE increase in defense spending.

[jaycanuck]

Unfortunately he used the economic situation down south as ammo to help win this one. The other item on his side is the fact that the leader of the opposing Liberal party is a lame duck. I wouldn't hire him to run a Subway restaurant lunch hour. His job as leader is most certainly done.

I'm happy to see that the NDP (sort of the more effective Ralph Nader) continue to make inroads. Although it doesn't seem like a large number of seats, 37 isnt' that far off from the Liberal's disappointing 76.

[T Oracle]

59 percent of Canadians voted. That's less than Britain.


Don't know about the voting stats.

But could you please keep the dividend coming? After all I just own a little bit of Sun Life of Canada.

PS. Anything you can do to cut the Witholding Tax would be appreciated.

:P

[bluepeter]

Unfortunately he used the economic situation down south as ammo to help win this one. The other item on his side is the fact that the leader of the opposing Liberal party is a lame duck. I wouldn't hire him to run a Subway restaurant lunch hour. His job as leader is most certainly done.

I'm happy to see that the NDP (sort of the more effective Ralph Nader) continue to make inroads. Although it doesn't seem like a large number of seats, 37 isnt' that far off from the Liberal's disappointing 76.

The real issue is the electoral dysfunction. If we had a fair proportional voting system here is what the seat allocation in the House should have looked like:

Conservatives - 38% of the popular vote: 117 seats (not 143)
Liberals - 26% of the popular vote: 81 seats (not 76)
NDP - 18% of the popular vote: 57 seats (not 37)
Bloc - 10% of the popular vote: 28 seats (not 50)
Greens - 7% of the popular vote: 23 seats (not 0)

That really shows how ridiculous it is doesn't it?

[jaycanuck]

It is ridiculous bluepeter. It's not a perfect system..but it's not horrible. I do think the senate needs to go. An extra step that's not needed.

[MrShow52]

I read canada has worse voter turn out than america, and that it's america's bitch.

[Ben]

I read canada has worse voter turn out than america, and that it's america's bitch.

Canadians voted, overwhelmingly, against the conservatives. 62 percent of Canadians did not vote for the Bush clone, Stephen Harper.
And Americans should follow Canada's lead: vote for your specific interests. I mean, do we support public health care? Do we? Do we want public health care? Well, yes... we do. Most doctors, nurses and most Americans want public health care. Both... yes!, both McCain and Obama are OPPOSED to public health care. They aren't representing American interests. But Cynthia McKinney, of the Greens, and Ralph Nader want a publicly funded not-for-profit health care system that's available to ALL Americans.

[trannybanger]

Canadians voted, overwhelmingly, against the conservatives. 62 percent of Canadians did not vote for the Bush clone, Stephen Harper.
And Americans should follow Canada's lead: vote for your specific interests. I mean, do we support public health care? Do we? Do we want public health care? Well, yes... we do. Most doctors, nurses and most Americans want public health care. Both... yes!, both McCain and Obama are OPPOSED to public health care. They aren't representing American interests. But Cynthia McKinney, of the Greens, and Ralph Nader want a publicly funded not-for-profit health care system that's available to ALL Americans.

I personally know Cynthia McKinney, and have worked with her on some projects... She is a complete moron. It is incredible who can be voted into public office based of the profile of their districts.

And above all, things that are publically funded and not for profit usually don't turn out so well. The US is a country built on competition and profit and that is what pushes people to be the best. Do you ever hear of anyone going to Canada or any other country for that matter for their superior medical care?

[salvador]

Most elections in Canada have a higher voting turnout. It was low this time because it was the third election in three years. Plus most Canadians have had it up to here listening to the U.S.A.'s election that's been going on now for the last two years.
While Canada's election was called , run, and all rapped up in only five weeks at a cost of $290,000.00.

The Liberal guy ( Mr. Dion ) was trying to put forward a very difficult environmental platform. One that would have stopped the government from taxing income, and taxed carbon emissions instead.

A plan that needs to get started globally before we make this planet any worse. Mr. Dion was treated like shit by the press, the people, and the prick that won. Even though he was the one person who could have run the country well.

Too often people refuse to vote for the less charismatic. They get pulled into this character assignation game because they can't think for themselves. Canada made a big mistake. The only plus is that the next leader of the Liberal Party will rip Harper apart.

[salvador]

Do you ever hear of anyone going to Canada or any other country for that matter for their superior medical care?

Obama and Hillary are trying to drag your country kicking and screaming towards a universal health care system. Just like most of the civilized world already has.

Right now you're President Bone head, Or should I say " War Criminal " has done a very good job of socializing your banking system. And all he had to do was allow for more deregulation

Neat trick.

I guess " Greed " can be just as bad for Capitalism as it is for Marxist Communalism. At least the Socialist systems have oversight though.

But your right about one thing. Canada will be hurt on the stock market. But not so much on main street. Because Canada has better regulatory controls that keeps the greedy bastards from stealing them blind.

Anyway, in this election, don't give George Bush a positive legacy by voting in McCain and Palin.

Vote for Obama and we're all good. And don't worry, Obama's politics are still far right of the rest of the worlds.

Canadians have a birds eye view of the world. ha ha ha. :wink:

[salvador]

The other item on his side is the fact that the leader of the opposing Liberal party is a lame duck. I wouldn't hire him to run a Subway restaurant lunch hour.

You're wrong, Dion is the better educated more responsible one, with the best team as well. If you didn't vote for him then you really fucked up.

And the NDP are bullshit. It was the NDP who forced Canada into a non confidence vote in the first place. If Jack Layton had kept his fucking mouth shut the last election Paul martin would still be Prime Minister.

And Harper would have been history. And Canada would still have a huge surplus of money to weather this financial storm.

Martin and his predecessor were eventually exonerated form being implicated in any scandal.

But Jack Layton made a secret deal with Harper to let the government fall before that could happen. Harper and Layton are traitors.

[bassman2546]

The other item on his side is the fact that the leader of the opposing Liberal party is a lame duck. I wouldn't hire him to run a Subway restaurant lunch hour.

You're wrong, Dion is the better educated more responsible one, with the best team as well. If you didn't vote for him then you really fucked up.

And the NDP are bullshit. It was the NDP who forced Canada into a non confidence vote in the first place. If Jack Layton had kept his fucking mouth shut the last election Paul martin would still be Prime Minister.

And Harper would have been history. And Canada would still have a huge surplus of money to weather this financial storm.

Martin and his predecessor were eventually exonerated form being implicated in any scandal.

But Jack Layton made a secret deal with Harper to let the government fall before that could happen. Harper and Layton are traitors.

"If you didn't vote for him you really fucked up."

Really. Have you listened to that moron? And he did so well that they're already looking to oust him as Liberal leader for Bob Ray. If that French fuck would have been Prime Minister, this country would have been worse off than our nation down south (no not Mexico).

I'd take Harper any day over Dion. Bush Clone? My ass. What country have we invaded lately?

[jaycanuck]

You're wrong, Dion is the better educated more responsible one, with the best team as well. If you didn't vote for him then you really fucked up.

Let's see...I called him a "lame duck". I'm pretty sure that means I didn't vote for him.

My god Salvador. Do you think the sun shines out of the collective Liberal asses? For your information, I used to vote Liberal. Unlike past generations of my family I am not forced into voting to the guy that we've always voted for.

I do think Dion's Green Shift had some merit. I don't think he could have pulled it off....or much of anything else. Now...if they bring in Frank McKenna like the rumors are saying, I will be painted red that election. Mr. McKenna will rip Harper a new one and do wonders for this country.

The silver lining in all of this is, Mr. Harper still has a minority government, The Liberals will get a new leader and will prevent him from getting a majority the next time (and the way things are going that'll be in 2 weeks).

So Salvador, look at your options next time. Green had a similar outlook on environment. Why didn't you vote for them?

[lisaparadise]

it's the country where the banks are still operating.roflmfao,actually canada is the greatest country in the world and we make the united states of american look like a 3rd world country period.

[trannybanger]

it's the country where the banks are still operating.roflmfao,actually canada is the greatest country in the world and we make the united states of american look like a 3rd world country period.

rrrriiiiigggggghhhhhhhttttttttt :wink:

[lisaparadise]

it's the country where the banks are still operating.roflmfao,actually canada is the greatest country in the world and we make the united states of american look like a 3rd world country period.

rrrriiiiigggggghhhhhhhttttttttt :wink:lol ok i might be stretchin it alittle but then again if ya seen any of my vids then youd know im used to doin that hahahhaha

[salvador]

I'd take Harper any day over Dion. Bush Clone? My ass. What country have we invaded lately?

While Bush was invading Iraq, Harper was in the opposition party advocating we join him.

That makes Harper a would be war criminal !

Obama's was arguing his superiority over Hillary because he new that war was a bad idea.
Most Americans pick Obama for his forethought on that.

Good thing the Liberals were in power at the time or Canada would have been in Iraq breaking international law just like Bush and Cheney.

Harpers sucks Texas oil man dick. Fuck him ! He's a plant working for Imperial oil.

[salvador]

I do think Dion's Green Shift had some merit.

Good because it's way over due.

You should never vote for Harper's Reform Party no matter what the fuck name they try to hide behind.

First it was the Reform Party, then they changed it to the Alliance Party.

Now they're trying to say they're the Conservative party.

What a crock of shit. All they are is a northern cousin to the Republican Party that found a weak spot at the Alberta boarder.

Fuck heads like Harper should be put in jail.