Is Craigslist the New Trannie Bar? Affecting TS Escorts

[Shining Star]

:)

Was cold and rainy the other day, so decided out of boredom to peek on local CL to see what all the furore is about.

Searching around a bit, it did seem CL is cracking down on escort adverts, at least for trannies. Ads that are up for only an hour or so the most are quickly flagged to be removed.

As for the "M4TS", it was all the usual suspects and then, indeed it confirms much of the worst one has heard and thought about where the trannie community is heading.

Pages, and pages of adverts looking for "casual encounter" or "leaving work in 10 minutes, and want to stop off on way home from work". Or the ever popular "cannot host" or "married but seeking a TS for long term "casual" affair". In general the gist of 97% of the adverts was men looking to meet a "real" TS, but only for casual, no-strings attached sexual relationships. Even when men state they are looking for a "passable" TS and are interested in doing other things, the main idea is sex and anything else is a maybe. Sort of like the old days when a guy would take a trannie out, but only to places he is sure none of his friends or family would see him.

And then there are the pictures.

On the one hand it was nice to see so many young, well built, physically attractive men "into" trannies. But picture after picture it was the same thing, snaps of the poster's tackle and or ass. This seems common as it happens enough on Gay.com and many other trannie personal advert sites. But what is up with that?

Not nearly as many St8 men made such posts in their adverts looking for GGs, nor indeed did gay males looking for others gay males; though the later has a slightly higher percentage of such snaps than the former.

So it seems now instead of going out to a trannie bar, men are content to "order" in as it were via Internet.

What struck one as odd, if not hypocritical, was the vast number of men seeking a trannie who was not an escort, but what they wanted basically was the services of a ho, without paying. That is sex upon demand, but with no funds exchanged.

Is trannie escorting is to be replaced by booty-calls or friends with benefits? Judging from some of the adverts, many guys aren't happy with the responses, which seem to come mainly from TV's or non-passing drag queens. My guess is these men want a hot looking trannine on the cheap, and are surprised none are taking them up on their offers.

IMHO, the scene really hasn't changed that much if this is any indication. Sure there are more men into trannnies, and they are younger and perhaps better looking (no offence guys), but the result is the same as when one went to Edelweiss or any other trannie bar, guys looking for a hook-up, and will go with the hottest but least costly route.

[Alyssa87]

nice post.

i was hanging with a gay friend of mine who i guess posts and looks on CL for hooking up and hanging out.

so i told him to go to the ts side, and it was just like u said!
i was gonna put up an ad to meet some local hotties, but the vibe turned me off so much i didnt bother :shrug

[Shining Star]

I feel your pain! *LOL*

Thought it might be a nice way to find local "hotties' as well, those NJ boys especially!

However like you the vibe was just to "trannie bar" to suit my tastes. Really nothing more than cyber-booty calls and such.

So even though one meets the guy online, the result would be pretty much the same ole story; a man that pretty much is into you for sex only and perhaps (if you are lucky) a movie, drinks or some such, primary activity would be sex.

SS

[Alyssa87]

Wait? youre in jersey too?

[Shining Star]

No, NYC, but have friends, family and everything else in NJ.

Jersey boys have been not for ages. Indeed even back in the day (1990's and 1980's even), some of the hotest go-go boys at gay clubs and such were from NJ, (or LI).

[peggygee]

I got hooked up with a huuuge TV.















It was a 36 inch Sony, years ago. :P

I haven't been back since.

Haven't got any interest in CL for anything,
let alone casual sex.

But you're right, it is a sorry state of affairs.

[Shining Star]

Well, you said it yourself the ads are under Casual Encounters. Men, Women, TG, CDS, TVS, anyone can post in that section. most are looking for casual sex. CE is about sucking and fucking, not about walking hand-in-hand window shopping down Madison Avenue after Sunday brunch. CL has categories for people who are looking for more than a quick s&f. It's all good. Now everybody..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao2yi2EBiQ8&feature=related


Pages, and pages of adverts looking for "casual encounter" or "leaving work in 10 minutes, and want to stop off on way home from work". Or the ever popular "cannot host" or "married but seeking a TS for long term "casual" affair". In general the gist of 97% of the adverts was men looking to meet a "real" TS, but only for casual, no-strings attached sexual relationships. Even when men state they are looking for a "passable" TS and are interested in doing other things, the main idea is sex and anything else is a maybe. Sort of like the old days when a guy would take a trannie out, but only to places he is sure none of his friends or family would see him.Leave us try this again.

Did not look under the "Casual Encounters" section of CL, but rather searched the entire site using key works "M4TS" and "TS". The results were as described above.

And furthermore, a majority of the postings for trannies are in the CL section. Last count there were only 10 or so listed under "romantic" section (and even then they still had pictures of men's tackle), even fewer under "men seeking women".


SS.

[trapmasta]

so wait... if i see a girl that im sexually attracted to...
isnt the way for me to bed her is to make her sexually attracted to me?

lmao

[KiraHarden]

Well, if your dumb enough to think your gonna meet a Hawt passable tranny on CL in the casual section for nsa dl fantasy sex.

You belong in wonderland with Alice.

A Hawt tranny doesn't need to or will post in a casual section of CL for nsa sex.

These are the guys who want to fulfill their ts fantasies at our expense, but refuse to pay

[iloveall]

Alyssa87 so if i travel to you hometown
could i meet up with you and by pass any ad you put up

[Alyssa87]

uuuh i dunno, im a picky bitch to be honest.

[iloveall]

uh ok

[IndyCloset]

Craigslist??? Are you serious?? The only enconters you'll see there are usually fat middle aged white men wearing wigs, the shit is disgusting LOL!

Plus anybody who's anybody on the erotic/escort side I'm already cool with (in the Philly/SouthJersey area anyway) so why play myself posting an ad?

That being said, just cuz I don't need it or the thread starter is turned off from it doesn't mean it's not successful, I mean if it wasn't then I dougbt so many guys would be flocking to it as you say. So to them I say good luck!

As for me, I'm old fasion, I like to actually hunt for my prey >:)

[IndyCloset]

uuuh i dunno, im a picky bitch to be honest.

And your one of the 5 women on this site that should be.

Oh, and did I mention that you were all 5 ;^)

[evalala]

Share the social disease :-D AKA Craigslist! Just kiddings.

[keepingitreal470]

Alyssa87 so if i travel to you hometown
could i meet up with you and by pass any ad you put upDude, next time send a pm. You open yourself up to be publicly humiliated by the girls doing it this way. And they will gladly oblige. Damm, do I have to tell you guys everything. Next time one of them on a public forum tells you their "picky", send them a pic and if they contact you, ignore the shit outta them. Some of you guys need to start being picky too. Especially when "average looking" girls pull this shit. I am, but I would never blow someone up in a public forum like that. Maturity. Guys, stop allowing these girls to be in a position where they can act superior to you. Cause most of them will do it everytime. And then they think they can act like that towards all men. Glad I dont feed into it and that I still like pussy. Give yourself an alternative. An occasional compliment is fine. Excessive ass kissing, playing captain save a trannie when she's being attacked in a thread(cause she actually started the flame war) and making public overtures are all indicative of a cockhound. Please guys, for the men that are into trannies, have some pride, dont fucking beg in public. It just makes it worse for all of us.

[JustMeHere]

I'm a Jersey boy as well and I do go on CL with wishful thinking every now and then to see if there's any cute girls in the area ... nada. I mean, I'm one of those afformentioned guys who is only looking for a hook-up, so that's probably my problem; I'm too lazy to actually get out there and get in the middle of any TS nightlife. (if there even is any in NJ?) I'll still check CL every now and then, but in all honesty I highly doubt I'll ever find anything. Kind of like what Kira was saying, I don't think a hot girl would need to post. (but if one ever does, please look me up first :)

And that's my naive two cents.

[Shining Star]

Well can think of one reason why a "hot" TS would post on CL, especially if she is living stealth; it avoids having to meet a man and having "the conversation".

There are other personal advert sites that get or at least used to have some ads by attractive pre and post op trannies. Indeed you can find some here and there on even Gay.com.

As for the comment about "fat men in wigs", that may be the responses he has gotten, but again, one saw and was surprised by the amount of attractive (or at least physically attractive since few showed their faces), young men posting for trannies. They were all trannie-dawgs, but they were posting. *LOL*

[IndyCloset]

Alyssa87 so if i travel to you hometown
could i meet up with you and by pass any ad you put upDude, next time send a pm. You open yourself up to be publicly humiliated by the girls doing it this way. And they will gladly oblige. Damm, do I have to tell you guys everything. Next time one of them on a public forum tells you their "picky", send them a pic and if they contact you, ignore the shit outta them. Some of you guys need to start being picky too. Especially when "average looking" girls pull this shit. I am, but I would never blow someone up in a public forum like that. Maturity. Guys, stop allowing these girls to be in a position where they can act superior to you. Cause most of them will do it everytime. And then they think they can act like that towards all men. Glad I dont feed into it and that I still like pussy. Give yourself an alternative. An occasional compliment is fine. Excessive ass kissing, playing captain save a trannie when she's being attacked in a thread(cause she actually started the flame war) and making public overtures are all indicative of a cockhound. Please guys, for the men that are into trannies, have some pride, dont fucking beg in public. It just makes it worse for all of us.

Hmm here's a question Playboy. Out of all the irratating mooses with mops on their heads who type like fingers are missing on this site. Why antagonize her? Did she ignore your last PM?

For all the fly sh*t your talking in your post, at the end of the day you just sound like a bitter ass clown who's been shot down one time too many. See your flaw is obvious since people who are admired could'nt care less what the next man is saying. Plus pulling a chick with ease that the last man was bending over backwards for just make it that much sweeter right, so how is this guy making your time here hard again???

Whether it's a website or real life, women can tell the difference between men and losers. So I'll give you some advice. Phrases like "I'm picky" are only threatening to those who are insecure about their game.

BUT!

For someone like me it usually means let the games begin.... Any questions.....

[Alyssa87]

keepingitreal: oh my oh my. nice work! should i have just said YEAH COME N' GET IT? average.lol. i'm a babe n u know it. should i not be picky?

and thanks verymuch indy- i guess youre one of the ass kissers this hater mentioned. how does it feel? ;p

[melissacarter]

keepingitreal: oh my oh my. nice work! should i have just said YEAH COME N' GET IT? average.lol. i'm a babe n u know it. should i not be picky?

and thanks verymuch indy- i guess youre one of the ass kissers this hater mentioned. how does it feel? ;p

Don't burn a calorie over this human waste, Alyssa.

He wins the "gives away his 3" dick size in one post" award and the coveted, "making the most HA enemies in less than a month".

No respect for others, telltale sign of a major asshole.

[melissacarter]

I'm a Jersey boy as well and I do go on CL with wishful thinking every now and then to see if there's any cute girls in the area ... nada. I mean, I'm one of those afformentioned guys who is only looking for a hook-up, so that's probably my problem; I'm too lazy to actually get out there and get in the middle of any TS nightlife. (if there even is any in NJ?) I'll still check CL every now and then, but in all honesty I highly doubt I'll ever find anything. Kind of like what Kira was saying, I don't think a hot girl would need to post. (but if one ever does, please look me up first :)

And that's my naive two cents.

Hi, Justme,

1. You are correct, there is zero TS nightlife in NJ. There isn't even a daylife. You either blend in or you're social roadkill.

2. I have never and will never post on CL. It is fraught with danger on both sides of the fence.

[Shining Star]

I'm a Jersey boy as well and I do go on CL with wishful thinking every now and then to see if there's any cute girls in the area ... nada. I mean, I'm one of those afformentioned guys who is only looking for a hook-up, so that's probably my problem; I'm too lazy to actually get out there and get in the middle of any TS nightlife. (if there even is any in NJ?) I'll still check CL every now and then, but in all honesty I highly doubt I'll ever find anything. Kind of like what Kira was saying, I don't think a hot girl would need to post. (but if one ever does, please look me up first :)

And that's my naive two cents.

Hi, Justme,

1. You are correct, there is zero TS nightlife in NJ. There isn't even a daylife. You either blend in or you're social roadkill.

2. I have never and will never post on CL. It is fraught with danger on both sides of the fence.Can't see how personal adverts on CL are any more or less dangerous than escort adverts on Eros or anyplace else. Not saying that you or anyone participating in this discussion is doing either, just stating a fact.

Either way one is meeting strangers one does not know and inviting them into one's home, or going to theirs. Therefore the usual precautions must always be taken.

Being as the above may, online dating is really taking off. Indeed if one reads the marriage announcement say of the NYT, there have been a pretty good number of couples, gay and straight that have met online.

[Craig]

Craigslist is scary.
The tgirls all flag each others ads, so no one can keep an ad up for long.

Plus they love to pretend to be many people with many different names. if they are resorting to this, you have to wonder.....
Often the pics do not match the real individual either.

Not a safe place at all, and a heat score with the cops in the USA

[trannybanger]

Anyone from the Bay area knows CL and knows it well. It is a different world there.

[melissacarter]

Can't see how personal adverts on CL are any more or less dangerous than escort adverts on Eros or anyplace else.

For starters, Craigs List is free and a magnet for scams and fakers. Eros costs $100's/month to advertise, especially if you want secure placement, animated thumbs and visiting ads to your destinations. The cost weeds out the riff-raff, to a large extent.

With greater quality control plus advertising premium, you are more likely to find a genuine provider on Eros who is as they present themselves. Of course, there will always be photoshop and drugs and shit attitudes so theres never a guarantee even on Eros.

For those using fake pics or other deceptive practices, that tells me they are disingenuous. Same goes for clients. That's why I keep my rates higher and never negotiate. As soon as some dude starts haggling I end the discussion. Non-negotiable is a term to be respected and if they are going to ignore that they might be capable of more underhanded shenanigans.

It's a cagey business on both sides of the fence, that will never change.

[TsVanessa69]

Alyssa87 so if i travel to you hometown
could i meet up with you and by pass any ad you put upDude, next time send a pm. You open yourself up to be publicly humiliated by the girls doing it this way. And they will gladly oblige. Damm, do I have to tell you guys everything. Next time one of them on a public forum tells you their "picky", send them a pic and if they contact you, ignore the shit outta them. Some of you guys need to start being picky too. Especially when "average looking" girls pull this shit. I am, but I would never blow someone up in a public forum like that. Maturity. Guys, stop allowing these girls to be in a position where they can act superior to you. Cause most of them will do it everytime. And then they think they can act like that towards all men. Glad I dont feed into it and that I still like pussy. Give yourself an alternative. An occasional compliment is fine. Excessive ass kissing, playing captain save a trannie when she's being attacked in a thread(cause she actually started the flame war) and making public overtures are all indicative of a cockhound. Please guys, for the men that are into trannies, have some pride, dont fucking beg in public. It just makes it worse for all of us.
Fair is fair, You guys judge us. Breast not big enough, ass not wide enough, cock not thick enough so you guys diss us. Why don't we get a go at you guys?

[trapmasta]

Can't see how personal adverts on CL are any more or less dangerous than escort adverts on Eros or anyplace else.

For starters, Craigs List is free and a magnet for scams and fakers. Eros costs $100's/month to advertise, especially if you want secure placement, animated thumbs and visiting ads to your destinations. The cost weeds out the riff-raff, to a large extent.

With greater quality control plus advertising premium, you are more likely to find a genuine provider on Eros who is as they present themselves. Of course, there will always be photoshop and drugs and shit attitudes so theres never a guarantee even on Eros.

For those using fake pics or other deceptive practices, that tells me they are disingenuous. Same goes for clients. That's why I keep my rates higher and never negotiate. As soon as some dude starts haggling I end the discussion. Non-negotiable is a term to be respected and if they are going to ignore that they might be capable of more underhanded shenanigans.

It's a cagey business on both sides of the fence, that will never change.

whoa melissa you are drop dead gorgoues

[TomSelis]

CL used to be a nice spot for hooking up. You'd post an ad or respond to one with a couple of pics, it was all so simple then.

I stopped messing with it when this went down:
I posted an ad, got some responses. Two-thirds were full of shit. One chick sent me some pics, I'm like "cool" and sent her my number. THREE weeks later I get this call....at work.

Me: Hello?

Her: Hi.
*pause*
Me: Who is this?

Her: It's ____________

Me: OK. uhhh, where do I know you from?

Her: You posted an ad a while back.

Me: Yeah, almost a month ago.

Her: It was? I don't remember. Yeah, you want to come over now?

Me: I'm at work, that ad was for the weekend, three weekends ago. Can you call me back later? Like say after 5pm?

Her: Oh you're busy? You look hispanic, but you sound black. I'm in Washington Heights, is that a problem?!

Me: Listen. I'd love to talk with you, but I'm at work right now. Can we talk a little later?

Her: You got a big dick. So what are you into?

Me: *click*

She never called back. I was done after that.

[flabbybody]

selis, I think I would have got up and told my boss I wasn't feeling well and hopped on the A train.
but, I have no self-control

[keepingitreal470]

Alyssa87 so if i travel to you hometown
could i meet up with you and by pass any ad you put upDude, next time send a pm. You open yourself up to be publicly humiliated by the girls doing it this way. And they will gladly oblige. Damm, do I have to tell you guys everything. Next time one of them on a public forum tells you their "picky", send them a pic and if they contact you, ignore the shit outta them. Some of you guys need to start being picky too. Especially when "average looking" girls pull this shit. I am, but I would never blow someone up in a public forum like that. Maturity. Guys, stop allowing these girls to be in a position where they can act superior to you. Cause most of them will do it everytime. And then they think they can act like that towards all men. Glad I dont feed into it and that I still like pussy. Give yourself an alternative. An occasional compliment is fine. Excessive ass kissing, playing captain save a trannie when she's being attacked in a thread(cause she actually started the flame war) and making public overtures are all indicative of a cockhound. Please guys, for the men that are into trannies, have some pride, dont fucking beg in public. It just makes it worse for all of us.

Hmm here's a question Playboy. Out of all the irratating mooses with mops on their heads who type like fingers are missing on this site. Why antagonize her? Did she ignore your last PM?

For all the fly sh*t your talking in your post, at the end of the day you just sound like a bitter ass clown who's been shot down one time too many. See your flaw is obvious since people who are admired could'nt care less what the next man is saying. Plus pulling a chick with ease that the last man was bending over backwards for just make it that much sweeter right, so how is this guy making your time here hard again???

Whether it's a website or real life, women can tell the difference between men and losers. So I'll give you some advice. Phrases like "I'm picky" are only threatening to those who are insecure about their game.

BUT!

For someone like me it usually means let the games begin.... Any questions.....Check it jackass, all cockhounds make it tough on other guys. You're one. Playing captain save a trannie. Now, boy, I've been into trannies longer than you've lived probably. Know who the fuck you're talking to. I don't treat them any differently than anyone else. What? Do you think you're little act of chivalry is gonna get you some ass from Alyssa? Do you clown, just not in my thread or in my world. A. I don't send pm's to any girls on this site. B. I don't live in the fantasy of being with a tgirl. I've had my share. C. Bitter? Get a fucking clue moron. I'm real. I don't blow smoke up anyone. Never have never will. And finally, I have no problem with Alyssa. She did what I would expect her to do. My problem is with chasers like yourself who open themselves up for being dissed. You jackholes need to have a little dignity.

[blckhaze]

selis, I think I would have got up and told my boss I wasn't feeling well and hopped on the A train.
but, I have no self-control


LMAO you poor bastard you.

[keepingitreal470]

keepingitreal: oh my oh my. nice work! should i have just said YEAH COME N' GET IT? average.lol. i'm a babe n u know it. should i not be picky?

and thanks verymuch indy- i guess youre one of the ass kissers this hater mentioned. how does it feel? ;pIf you feel like you're a babe, go right ahead. I think you took this way to personal as my problem was with chasers, not you. I know tgirls very well, and you're reaction was what I expected. Now you the person, I don't know. So I have no reason to make a personal attack against you. I'm not a hater, but not really a fan either. If I wanna be indifferent towards you, thats my choice. But I'm not in the business of putting any girl on a pedestal. If I really feel that way about her, I always make it known privately. Average? Again, not necessarily a knock against you, but you took it that way. Being way too defensive here. And yes, Indy is an asskissing cockhound. Some girls actually need fuckers like him for perpetual validation. It's what gets some of them out of bed in the morning. You don't strike me as a person that needs this. Again, what I had to say was all in general terms. Not specifically directed at you. If another girl did that, my response would have been the same.

[TomSelis]

selis, I think I would have got up and told my boss I wasn't feeling well and hopped on the A train.
but, I have no self-control

Well Flabs, three reasons I wasn't taking that chance. (in no particular order)

* It seemed like nothing I said really mattered (which to me is a bad sign)

* She was the type of girl who's voiced carried even if your cellphone was on low and you held it two feet from your ear

* I really couldn't talk just then and the number was blocked (another bad sign)

[melissacarter]

TomSelis,

I love your avatar! Huge Christopher Walken fan here.

[PeteIsHere]

Melissa,

I love your avatar! I am a huge Melissa Carter fan.



TomSelis,

I love your avatar! Huge Christopher Walken fan here.

[Buhdook]

Alyssa87 so if i travel to you hometown
could i meet up with you and by pass any ad you put upDude, next time send a pm. You open yourself up to be publicly humiliated by the girls doing it this way. And they will gladly oblige. Damm, do I have to tell you guys everything. Next time one of them on a public forum tells you their "picky", send them a pic and if they contact you, ignore the shit outta them. Some of you guys need to start being picky too. Especially when "average looking" girls pull this shit. I am, but I would never blow someone up in a public forum like that. Maturity. Guys, stop allowing these girls to be in a position where they can act superior to you. Cause most of them will do it everytime. And then they think they can act like that towards all men. Glad I dont feed into it and that I still like pussy. Give yourself an alternative. An occasional compliment is fine. Excessive ass kissing, playing captain save a trannie when she's being attacked in a thread(cause she actually started the flame war) and making public overtures are all indicative of a cockhound. Please guys, for the men that are into trannies, have some pride, dont fucking beg in public. It just makes it worse for all of us.

Hmm here's a question Playboy. Out of all the irratating mooses with mops on their heads who type like fingers are missing on this site. Why antagonize her? Did she ignore your last PM?

For all the fly sh*t your talking in your post, at the end of the day you just sound like a bitter ass clown who's been shot down one time too many. See your flaw is obvious since people who are admired could'nt care less what the next man is saying. Plus pulling a chick with ease that the last man was bending over backwards for just make it that much sweeter right, so how is this guy making your time here hard again???

Whether it's a website or real life, women can tell the difference between men and losers. So I'll give you some advice. Phrases like "I'm picky" are only threatening to those who are insecure about their game.

BUT!

For someone like me it usually means let the games begin.... Any questions.....OWNED!!!

[keepingitreal470]

Alyssa87 so if i travel to you hometown
could i meet up with you and by pass any ad you put upDude, next time send a pm. You open yourself up to be publicly humiliated by the girls doing it this way. And they will gladly oblige. Damm, do I have to tell you guys everything. Next time one of them on a public forum tells you their "picky", send them a pic and if they contact you, ignore the shit outta them. Some of you guys need to start being picky too. Especially when "average looking" girls pull this shit. I am, but I would never blow someone up in a public forum like that. Maturity. Guys, stop allowing these girls to be in a position where they can act superior to you. Cause most of them will do it everytime. And then they think they can act like that towards all men. Glad I dont feed into it and that I still like pussy. Give yourself an alternative. An occasional compliment is fine. Excessive ass kissing, playing captain save a trannie when she's being attacked in a thread(cause she actually started the flame war) and making public overtures are all indicative of a cockhound. Please guys, for the men that are into trannies, have some pride, dont fucking beg in public. It just makes it worse for all of us.

Hmm here's a question Playboy. Out of all the irratating mooses with mops on their heads who type like fingers are missing on this site. Why antagonize her? Did she ignore your last PM?

For all the fly sh*t your talking in your post, at the end of the day you just sound like a bitter ass clown who's been shot down one time too many. See your flaw is obvious since people who are admired could'nt care less what the next man is saying. Plus pulling a chick with ease that the last man was bending over backwards for just make it that much sweeter right, so how is this guy making your time here hard again???

Whether it's a website or real life, women can tell the difference between men and losers. So I'll give you some advice. Phrases like "I'm picky" are only threatening to those who are insecure about their game.

BUT!

For someone like me it usually means let the games begin.... Any questions.....OWNED!!!NOT. FIXED ABOVE. I OWNED HIM.

[Alyssa87]

keepingitreal: oh my oh my. nice work! should i have just said YEAH COME N' GET IT? average.lol. i'm a babe n u know it. should i not be picky?

and thanks verymuch indy- i guess youre one of the ass kissers this hater mentioned. how does it feel? ;pIf you feel like you're a babe, go right ahead. I think you took this way to personal as my problem was with chasers, not you. I know tgirls very well, and you're reaction was what I expected. Now you the person, I don't know. So I have no reason to make a personal attack against you. I'm not a hater, but not really a fan either. If I wanna be indifferent towards you, thats my choice. But I'm not in the business of putting any girl on a pedestal. If I really feel that way about her, I always make it known privately. Average? Again, not necessarily a knock against you, but you took it that way. Being way too defensive here. And yes, Indy is an asskissing cockhound. Some girls actually need fuckers like him for perpetual validation. It's what gets some of them out of bed in the morning. You don't strike me as a person that needs this. Again, what I had to say was all in general terms. Not specifically directed at you. If another girl did that, my response would have been the same.

oooh, i see. it read like you were putting me down for having standards.
my bad

[TomSelis]

TomSelis,

I love your avatar! Huge Christopher Walken fan here.

He's a trained ballroom dancer. But I still think it's hilarious.

I see you have some Gunnison Beach action in yours.

[melissacarter]

TomSelis,

I love your avatar! Huge Christopher Walken fan here.

He's a trained ballroom dancer. But I still think it's hilarious.

I see you have some Gunnison Beach action in yours.

Yes, complete with swampy Jersey water.

CW cracks me up so much, especially on SNL. The dude must be a barrel of laughs to hang with. Did you know Christopher Walken was on that boat the fateful night in 1981 when Natalie Wood drowned? I only recently found that out.