What's with TGs & race?

[Carlos]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

[tsmandy]

Nope.

Guys of all races like to get fucked.

[Nowhere]

Ok, betting $1000 this thread will go on for at least 10 pages full of garbage... :?

[Legend]

Ok, betting $1000 this thread will go on for at least 10 pages full of garbage... :?

I doubt people are sick of these fabricated stories to stir up racism in such a obscure topic,there are far greater issues dealing with race then escorting.This is the kind of thing that would make MLK turn in his grave there are far greater things dealing with equality then this like jobs and poverty.

[Carlos]

First thank you Mandy for answering the question.

To that dude...Huh? I asked if white guys were more into being a bottom because a tg told me. I didn't ask about MLK nor Malc X. Neither of which were a bottom as far as I've read. It was a simple question. The question wasn't so much why tgs don't date black guys (i could care less). I was just seeing if it was true that white guys like to be bottom more because it was not the first time I heard it from a girl, I heard it mentioned once before. I was curious to see if she was just blowing smoke (I promise you just smoke & nothing else) up my ass or if it was true.

No where did i say that ALL white guys...were bottoms. I wasn't making it into a negative, to each his own.....white or black...or black or white! See neither is on the bottom.

Dunno why dude wants to bring up fighting world hunger & shit! This is a bb about tg's...i asked a damn question. I thought that's what the board was for.

[KiraHarden]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

Yes in my exp white guys do prefer to bottom more than black men.

That is one of the reasons I prefer dating black guys.

Finding a white guy who tops is more of a crap shoot

[ARMANIXXX]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

Yes in my exp white guys do prefer to bottom more than black men.

That is one of the reasons I prefer dating black guys.

Finding a white guy who tops is more of a crap shoot


You always make it sound like it's an absolute.......
As in, people do 1 or the other and that's it.

Obviously you know that's not the case.

[menacingmethods86]

It may be a generalization, but yeah i've heard it before from some of the chicks who escort, white dudes are more inclined to want to get topped than other races. But overall white dude in general make the best tricks, they're less aggressive vocally and sexually and tend to be push-overs and that's why they're more in demand with the chicks who escort.

[KiraHarden]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

Yes in my exp white guys do prefer to bottom more than black men.

That is one of the reasons I prefer dating black guys.

Finding a white guy who tops is more of a crap shoot


You always make it sound like it's an absolute.......
As in, people do 1 or the other and that's it.
0WWe

Obviously you know that's not the case.

I did say in my exp, I've met a cpl white tops. But most want their hairy ass in the air

[Mr. Sinister]

I think most men of color, even with TGs, prefer to be dominant and masculine in bed. They still want to act straight even during intercourse. Most likely a cultural thing. White guys are not restricted by culture or society like men of color are.

[KiraHarden]

I think most men of color, even with TGs, prefer to be dominant and masculine in bed. They still want to act straight even during intercourse. Most likely a cultural thing. White guys are not restricted by culture or society like men of color are.

Great point

[ARMANIXXX]

I think most men of color, even with TGs, prefer to be dominant and masculine in bed. They still want to act straight even during intercourse. Most likely a cultural thing. White guys are not restricted by culture or society like men of color are.

Great point


*shrug*


I'm a top that will bottom.


I'm young, very big, very black.....

So......what now.

[Mr. Sinister]

In general, most men of color prefer to be dominant. As always, there are exceptions to the rule.

[melissacarter]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

Black guys have and always will be at the top of my list. Before escorting I only dated black men. Now it's all about green.

[tsmandy]

So in my experience with black men, which is much less than with white guys (one of the byproducts of living in the "Whitest city in America" gag), I'd say about 80% of them have wanted me to top them. Not one of them was a strict top, although I did have a client who was probably a top, but he had some sort of conscience attack once we met and had a conversation, and decided not to go through with the whole thing because of conflicting feelings around sex work.

So there you have it, in my opinion Racial stereotypes are pointlessly silly. There are plenty of white dudes that I've seen who only want to fuck me, and are repulsed by the idea of getting topped.

I'd say the biggest change in my clientele who want to bottom occurred after I worked for TSSeduction, then I started getting all these guys who are bottoms, whereas before, being a chick with no balls, the bottoms generally stayed away from me. So maybe the fact that those girls advertise about being fully functional and having a 9" cock has something to do with all the white guys that want to get reamed.

[KiraHarden]

In general, most men of color prefer to be dominant. As always, there are exceptions to the rule.

Your versitile and not a guy I would get involved with

[Rico]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

Yes in my exp white guys do prefer to bottom more than black men.

That is one of the reasons I prefer dating black guys.

Finding a white guy who tops is more of a crap shoot

[melissacarter]

I think most men of color, even with TGs, prefer to be dominant and masculine in bed. They still want to act straight even during intercourse.

I consider my bf totally straight hetero man who's only interest is women. He has never touched my cock in the two years we're together. I would not be with him, nor he with me, if he did not view me entirely as a woman. It's not that he's acting straight, he is straight.

[lisaparadise]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.dude thats so true i have a huge black following and everyone is a top and for my white guys about 7 outta 10 want me to top never really thought about it till now

[lisaparadise]

I think most men of color, even with TGs, prefer to be dominant and masculine in bed. They still want to act straight even during intercourse.

I consider my bf totally straight hetero man who's only interest is women. He has never touched my cock in the two years we're together. I would not be with him, nor he with me, if he did not view me entirely as a woman. It's not that he's acting straight, he is straight. lol does he have a brother lol

[lisaparadise]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

Black guys have and always will be at the top of my list. Before escorting I only dated black men. Now it's all about green.hmmmm thats crazzzy in your country we got white black tanned and brown guys but i aint never seen a green guy? kinda glad i live in canada damn it lol,you must live near them damn crop circles right? hahahaha

[KiraHarden]

I'm sure there out there, but I'm not meeting them.


I just got an email from some clown saying I'm. Hot t girl I should want to top men

WTF that's the stupidest thing I have heard. Take a guess what race he is.

[lisaparadise]

I'm sure there out there, but I'm not meeting them.


I just got an email from some clown saying I'm. Hot t girl I should want to top men

WTF that's the stupidest thing I have heard. Take a guess what race he is. roflmfao not touchin that one chicky lol

[KiraHarden]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.dude thats so true i have a huge black following and everyone is a top and for my white guys about 7 outta 10 want me to top never really thought about it till now

Well, I'm glad its not just my imagination.

[melissacarter]

]hmmmm thats crazzzy in your country we got white black tanned and brown guys but i aint never seen a green guy?

Remember, I live in Jersey

[menacingmethods86]

But as a black male i don't really appreciate white ts's who only view me as this big black dick mandingo fetish either, which alot seem to be blatantly expressing.

[blckhaze]

As a black guy, I can say, it a stereotype thats tends to be true.

Its a cultural thing, but not a question of masculinity. Most of my mates are dominant alpha males who dont like being #2 in ANYTHING.
Myself, I prefer a bottom girl. Ive dated both vers girl and full bottoms, and the chmistry was better with full bottoms. Maybe I was getting vers girls who liked topping more than bottoming, i dont know, but I just like being in control (even if im handcuffed to the bed posts, im in control. Dont say a word HARA!!!).
truthfully, black guys fantasize about being in more power than they are, where white guys fantasiz about losing any and all control.

[ARMANIXXX]

I consider my bf totally straight hetero man who's only interest is women. He has never touched my cock in the two years we're together. I would not be with him, nor he with me, if he did not view me entirely as a woman. It's not that he's acting straight, he is straight.



With due respect and all,

I think you might both be prudes.....totally your right, but it is what it is.

I've been with more than enough TS's to know that many, and probably most, TS's enjoy their cocks and want them played with, even if just oral. I've only ever once been with 1 TS girl that didn't want me to put my mouth on it.

It doesn't make sense to be a pre op TS, have your balls and cock and for both of you to pretend it's just not there when it clearly is and you wake up more often than not with an erection.
Totally your right though.


*shrug*

[BrendaQG]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

In my experience this is true. Black men prefere top and generally will never even want to touch mine. I think it is cultural like Haze said. Basically among black people we see sex, sexuality and gender a certain way. We see a transsexual as while not being a woman being so feminine that for a man to top one is totally acceptable. It does not take away from his being straight and masculine. I don't think the idea that a transsexual would ever want to be on top enters their minds. Just my own observation on that.

For white men it's a bit different. It's like they want to suck dick yet but not put themselves in a subservient position to another man. A transsexual who looks feminine enough can do that for them.

Conversely, and I will speak for myself. I don't see being topped or sucking cock as being subservient. Those things are what I want to do. I find sex in that role to be an empowering experience, while getting sucked is usually not as invigorating.

Just MHO.

[tsmandy]

As a black guy, I can say, it a stereotype thats tends to be true.

Its a cultural thing, but not a question of masculinity. Most of my mates are dominant alpha males who dont like being #2 in ANYTHING.
Myself, I prefer a bottom girl. Ive dated both vers girl and full bottoms, and the chmistry was better with full bottoms. Maybe I was getting vers girls who liked topping more than bottoming, i dont know, but I just like being in control (even if im handcuffed to the bed posts, im in control. Dont say a word HARA!!!).
truthfully, black guys fantasize about being in more power than they are, where white guys fantasiz about losing any and all control.

I dunno Haze, I think guys say one thing to their buddies, and then when it comes down to the privacy between a provider and her client it might be a different story.

Like I said, not one of my clients who are black, has ever been a strict top, not one. So either I attract bottoms (which I don't, most of my guys lean the other way or switch) or black sexuality happens to be a bit more diverse than people are claiming.

Then there's the BDSM world, trust me, plenty of black men that like to get dominated. It's often times the source of extreme discomfort for white people, when they are in a play space with a submissive black man who is getting the shit beat out of him, fucks with white guilt on a whole different level.

Not that I'm an expert on black men, or black culture, certainly have less to talk about than most people do. Just saying my experience points to a broader sexuality than folks are willing to recognize.

[KiraHarden]

I consider my bf totally straight hetero man who's only interest is women. He has never touched my cock in the two years we're together. I would not be with him, nor he with me, if he did not view me entirely as a woman. It's not that he's acting straight, he is straight.



With due respect and all,

I think you might both be prudes.....totally your right, but it is what it is.

I've been with more than enough TS's to know that many, and probably most, TS's enjoy their cocks and want them played with, even if just. oral. I've only ever once been with 1 TS girl that didn't want me to put my mouth on it.

It doesn't make sense to be a pre op TS, have your balls and cock and for both of you to pretend it's just not there when it clearly is and you wake up more often than not with an erection.
Totally your right though.


*shrug*

You can keep shruging.

1st off I have no balls, I had mine removed in feb 05

2nd I don't wake up with erections, that stopped happening after my testicles were removed.

3rd no I don't enojoy a man sucking my cock, or having my boobs bounce off his back

4th yes I still get aroused but only with men that are strict tops, and I'm not attracted to. Bottoms/versitile guys.They are a turn off sexually

5 I don't fuction like a ts who still has her testicles or drops off estrogen to keep her erection for guys that bottom, or for her own personal reasons.


6 I love being non fuctinal and sex is more enjoyable for me this way.

7 your not a ts/tg. Your on the outside looking in. Only my sisters truly understand. Regardless if they top, bottom or are versitile

[melissacarter]

I've only ever once been with 1 TS girl that didn't want me to put my mouth on it.

meet #2

totally

[ARMANIXXX]

You can keep shruging.

1st off I have no balls, I had mine removed in feb 05

2nd I don't wake up with erections, that stopped happening after my testicles were removed.

3rd no I don't enojoy a man sucking my cock, or having my boobs bounce off his back

4th yes I still get aroused but only with men that are strict tops, and I'm not attracted to. Bottoms/versitile guys.They are a turn off sexually

5 I don't fuction like a ts who still has her testicles or drops off estrogen to keep her erection for guys that bottom, or for her own personal reasons.


6 I love being non fuctinal and sex is more enjoyable for me this way.

7 your not a ts/tg. Your on the outside looking in. Only my sisters truly understand. Regardless if they top, bottom or are versitile




You are correct. I'm not a TS and I'm never gonna be one, and even if I wanted to, I would most def. suck at it.

But I think if you wanna be closer to the final analogy you just said, then I would be on the inside also looking in.....you know.....

Bay Area and all.

;)

[MrsKellyPierce]

Hmm every white guy I've met who are my age prefer topping? lol I don't know maybe its an age factor too. Middle age guys are more open to being bottomed I think.

[ARMANIXXX]

I've only ever once been with 1 TS girl that didn't want me to put my mouth on it.

meet #2

totally



Now that I think about it I've actually never been with a full white TS before...except that 1 time at PE and I was drunk....but that's a different story.

I can tell you this though, it does seem the Latina and Filipina TS's, especially the Filipina's, seem very much more comfortable with their cocks than many of the TS girls here.

I guess I need to go out tonight and find me some white ones so I can consumate my hypothesis.

:wink:

[blckhaze]

As a black guy, I can say, it a stereotype thats tends to be true.

Its a cultural thing, but not a question of masculinity. Most of my mates are dominant alpha males who dont like being #2 in ANYTHING.
Myself, I prefer a bottom girl. Ive dated both vers girl and full bottoms, and the chmistry was better with full bottoms. Maybe I was getting vers girls who liked topping more than bottoming, i dont know, but I just like being in control (even if im handcuffed to the bed posts, im in control. Dont say a word HARA!!!).
truthfully, black guys fantasize about being in more power than they are, where white guys fantasiz about losing any and all control.

I dunno Haze, I think guys say one thing to their buddies, and then when it comes down to the privacy between a provider and her client it might be a different story.

Like I said, not one of my clients who are black, has ever been a strict top, not one. So either I attract bottoms (which I don't, most of my guys lean the other way or switch) or black sexuality happens to be a bit more diverse than people are claiming.

Then there's the BDSM world, trust me, plenty of black men that like to get dominated. It's often times the source of extreme discomfort for white people, when they are in a play space with a submissive black man who is getting the shit beat out of him, fucks with white guilt on a whole different level.

Not that I'm an expert on black men, or black culture, certainly have less to talk about than most people do. Just saying my experience points to a broader sexuality than folks are willing to recognize.


theres a difference between being top/bottom and dominant/submissive.
Ill be the first to say that some days Im all for playing both ways, but there is a different air in the room with the average black men whos into TS than, the average white man whos into TS.

[ARMANIXXX]

theres a difference between being top/bottom and dominant/submissive.
Ill be the first to say that some days Im all for playing both ways, but there is a different air in the room with the average black men whos into TS than, the average white man whos into TS.






EXACTLY

Fuckin exactly.

[PeteIsHere]

Kelly, I would like to see a scene between you and a middle aged hairy guy having passionate sex. Are you open to the idea of performing with a Ron Jeremy look alike?


Hmm every white guy I've met who are my age prefer topping? lol I don't know maybe its an age factor too. Middle age guys are more open to being bottomed I think.

[PeteIsHere]

Melissa, if you are not open to being satified orally then are you really enjoying sex completely? I've always thought it is rare for people to experience orgasm while receiving anal sex. I would never want to bottom for anyone but I personally would feel selfish if a woman performs oral sex on me and not return the favor.




I've only ever once been with 1 TS girl that didn't want me to put my mouth on it.

meet #2

totally

[sucka4chix]

As a guy who identifies himself as straight, no matter what perverted things I've done, I don't really know the strict definitions of top and bottom. I have a TS friend who said I was more of a bottom, and I was insulted. I'll go down on a girl and I like it, but when I was doing GGs I could eat pussy all day too. Just something about having my head between a girls legs that's hot to me. Just so happens that if my head is between a TSes legs the landscape is a little different. That doesn't make me any more submissive than a pussy eater!
Now wanting a cock up your ass is a little different. My friend sees white guys almost exclusively (not by choice, that's who calls), and most of them want to get fucked! I think that may be the difference, if there is any. Most black guys, even if they WILL bottom, don't go seeking it out, where as that's specifically what white guys want. I would never go see a girl because I want her to fuck me, but there have many times when that's all the girl wanted to do.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Kelly, I would like to see a scene between you and a middle aged hairy guy having passionate sex. Are you open to the idea of performing with a Ron Jeremy look alike?


Hmm every white guy I've met who are my age prefer topping? lol I don't know maybe its an age factor too. Middle age guys are more open to being bottomed I think. lol no not at this time......

[PeteIsHere]

Kelly, come on and get with it. There's a huge aging population and you can tap into an untapped money stream by creating videos showing a young beautiful woman like yourself having sex with wrinkled and rugged old men.




Kelly, I would like to see a scene between you and a middle aged hairy guy having passionate sex. Are you open to the idea of performing with a Ron Jeremy look alike?


Hmm every white guy I've met who are my age prefer topping? lol I don't know maybe its an age factor too. Middle age guys are more open to being bottomed I think. lol no not at this time......

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

i dont know, but I just like being in control (even if im handcuffed to the bed posts, im in control.

I beg to disagree! If you were being fucked in the ass, its one thing. BUT If you were hand cuffed on the bed, it only meant YOU have SURRENDERED all control to your partner!! Hence, YOU will never be in control. PERIOD! Your partner can leave you for hours while she watch tv or do her nails or worst robs you. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[PeteIsHere]

Hara, you don't seem like the type of person to handcuff a guy and abuse him. There are few women on HA that I suspect would do something like this but not you.



i dont know, but I just like being in control (even if im handcuffed to the bed posts, im in control.

I beg to disagree! If you were being fucked in the ass, its one thing. BUT If you were hand cuffed on the bed, it only meant YOU have SURRENDERED all control to your partner!! Hence, YOU will never be in control. PERIOD! Your partner can leave you for hours while she watch tv or do her nails or worst robs you. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[melissacarter]

Melissa, if you are not open to being satified orally then are you really enjoying sex completely? I've always thought it is rare for people to experience orgasm while receiving anal sex.

I cum so easy getting fucked. It's the greatest thrill you can imagine. The bigger the better, I like it hard and fast. I sometimes black out.

There's a lot of psychodrama that comes with sex...sometimes I like to tease the guy, make him think he's about to do me, then feign a change of heart. Sometimes lightly push or kick him away. I love that moment when he goes apeshit and pins me down. It's the whole power thing. I like that he thinks he's stealing the power when in fact I'm just letting him have it.

To answer your question, it feels plenty complete to me.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hara, you don't seem like the type of person to handcuff a guy and abuse him. There are few women on HA that I suspect would do something like this but not you.



i dont know, but I just like being in control (even if im handcuffed to the bed posts, im in control.

I beg to disagree! If you were being fucked in the ass, its one thing. BUT If you were hand cuffed on the bed, it only meant YOU have SURRENDERED all control to your partner!! Hence, YOU will never be in control. PERIOD! Your partner can leave you for hours while she watch tv or do her nails or worst robs you. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

In my personal life, no. But professionally, I have! ;)
It's all in a days work. lol :shrug

~Kisses.

HTG

[blckhaze]

i dont know, but I just like being in control (even if im handcuffed to the bed posts, im in control.

I beg to disagree! If you were being fucked in the ass, its one thing. BUT If you were hand cuffed on the bed, it only meant YOU have SURRENDERED all control to your partner!! Hence, YOU will never be in control. PERIOD! Your partner can leave you for hours while she watch tv or do her nails or worst robs you. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG


not me.
the moment the cuffs came off, Im going to prison for murder.

[sheyum]

weird thread

[ARMANIXXX]

weird thread


I'll say.


At the drop of a hat, this nice discussional topic has turned into handcuffs, robbing, kicking and screaming, murder, and penitentiary time.




Now I think I'll go back to Craigslist where it's safe.


;)

[Shining Star]

Sigh*

Not this query again! *LOL*

Maybe we should just do a "FAQ" section on the matter to save bandwidth.


That being said, we've been on this trip so many times, we've racked up frequent flyer miles.

In general, yes, Black, Latin (and by Latin am including not just Spanish decent, but Latin based cultures such as Southern European males), and others tend to be more active than "passive" when it comes to transgendered. However going by the numbers of minority transgendered persons, drag queens, and feminine "gay" men and boys, obviously this does not apply across the entire spectrum.

Obviously not every Black and Latin male engaging in "gay" sex on the down-low is active only. The rising AIDS infection rate among minority communities in the United States, and of "St8", males in Latin American countries, indicates someone is doing something that brings them into contact with the virus, excluding IV drug use.


One thing rings consistently true for the most part; generally when non-white European males see any sort of escort, trannie, GG or whatever, they tend to want to get their money's worth. That is to say if the the agreement was for one hour of full sex, a ho is going to be hard pressed to palm off a quick (and often bad) BJ/hand-job and rush the guy out the door. Even if the oral is good, Blk and Latin men tend to want what they came for, from their point of view they could have saved $$$$ and stayed home and done the thing themselves if that is all they are going to get.

Many trannie escorts it seems tend to run game (not all mind, but enough for the class to have a reputation), of getting a guy in, taking his money and then treating him as if they are doing the man a favour of gracing him with their presence. Never mind the man has PAID for their company, the deal is to be gotten over quickly and that is that.

What bothers some escorts is that unlike your average white European date who doesn't want any "trouble", a minority male just may kick up a fuss, to the point things can get "violent" if he was promised one thing, and given an other. As we all know hoes don't like giving refunds, and many will stand down a date who dares to ask, but that trick may not always work with certain men.

Strange thing, of the trannie hoes I've know, it has always been the white and some Asian girls who loved Black and Latin men, while many Black and Latin trannies wouldn't go near them with a barge pole. Well if money was really tight, and or business was really slow, they might "lower" themselves, but dates usually can tell the person's heart just wasn't in it.

Is discrimination in escorting right? Well in a perfect world it wouldn't exist in any form, however we do not live in a perfect world. From an escort's point of view, one of the benefits of being an independent worker is deciding whom she/he will see and at what rates. House,pimped and service workers may be able to pick and choose, depending upon the "rules", but some procurers aren't having any of it. If a regular and good client shows up and happens to be anything from a Black professional male to a fat (but wealthy) Arab, and he wants to tap that ass for one hour, the girl best make up her mind to things; the alternative of costing the house money and possibly a good customer can bring consequences and repercussions far more terrible than one hour of sex with person you aren't physically attracted to.

Just to round things off, there is wide discrimination within the gay community as well. There are entire groups of white gay males that want nothing to do with Blk or Latin men. Personal ads on CL and other sites still often feature words to the effect of "white males only".

An easy solution to this whole escorts who don't see minority men, is to simply put words to same effect in their adverts. It could replace all that silly nonsense about rates are "for my time only......" which is of no consequence because it would never stand up in court anyway.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

i dont know, but I just like being in control (even if im handcuffed to the bed posts, im in control.

I beg to disagree! If you were being fucked in the ass, its one thing. BUT If you were hand cuffed on the bed, it only meant YOU have SURRENDERED all control to your partner!! Hence, YOU will never be in control. PERIOD! Your partner can leave you for hours while she watch tv or do her nails or worst robs you. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG


not me.
the moment the cuffs came off, Im going to prison for murder.

Lmao Hey, you're the one who mentioned being cuffed on the bed and being in control, remember? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[blckhaze]

i dont know, but I just like being in control (even if im handcuffed to the bed posts, im in control.

I beg to disagree! If you were being fucked in the ass, its one thing. BUT If you were hand cuffed on the bed, it only meant YOU have SURRENDERED all control to your partner!! Hence, YOU will never be in control. PERIOD! Your partner can leave you for hours while she watch tv or do her nails or worst robs you. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG


not me.
the moment the cuffs came off, Im going to prison for murder.

Lmao Hey, you're the one who mentioned being cuffed on the bed and being in control, remember? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

yea, but she better not leave the bed, let alone the room!!!



and mamba says hi.

[goldensamba]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

Black guys have and always will be at the top of my list. Before escorting I only dated black men. Now it's all about green.

Sweet, bring your hot ass over here........... :)

[keepingitreal470]

I've only ever once been with 1 TS girl that didn't want me to put my mouth on it.

meet #2

totally



Now that I think about it I've actually never been with a full white TS before...except that 1 time at PE and I was drunk....but that's a different story.

I can tell you this though, it does seem the Latina and Filipina TS's, especially the Filipina's, seem very much more comfortable with their cocks than many of the TS girls here.

I guess I need to go out tonight and find me some white ones so I can consumate my hypothesis.

:wink:Dude, there are plenty of black tgirls who are comfortable with their cock and like it played with. Don't waste your time dealing with the likes of these here. Luckily for me, every girl I see post some shit about not wanting a guy to pay attention to their cock, I'm not even remotely physically attracted to.

[goldensamba]

Hmm every white guy I've met who are my age prefer topping? lol I don't know maybe its an age factor too. Middle age guys are more open to being bottomed I think.


Are you asking a question or is that a typo?

Middle aged guys are way more comfortable exploring new things and not worrying as much about stigmas that might come with it. Women are the same. The middle aged women are way more adventurous than the young ones.

[paulgutierrez]

I think it deals mainly with the fact that:

-The diagnosis rate among blacks is almost 11 times the rate of whites.

-HIV was the third leading cause of death for African-Americans, ages
25-34, in 2001.

-Although African-American teens (ages 13-19) represent only 15% of U.S. teenagers, they accounted for 65% of new AIDS cases reported among teens in 2002. A similar impact can be seen among African-American children.

It's definitely something you should worry about considering condom effectiveness isn't 100%. I don't mean to sound racist or anything, but statistics are statistics.

http://www.nblca.org/aidsInfo.html

[bolo_111]

Basically among black people we see sex, sexuality and gender a certain way. We see a transsexual as while not being a woman being so feminine that for a man to top one is totally acceptable. It does not take away from his being straight and masculine. I don't think the idea that a transsexual would ever want to be on top enters their minds. Just my own observation on that.

For white men it's a bit different. It's like they want to suck dick yet but not put themselves in a subservient position to another man. A transsexual who looks feminine enough can do that for them.

Conversely, and I will speak for myself. I don't see being topped or sucking cock as being subservient. Those things are what I want to do. I find sex in that role to be an empowering experience, while getting sucked is usually not as invigorating.

Just MHO.

Good post.

[ARMANIXXX]

I've only ever once been with 1 TS girl that didn't want me to put my mouth on it.

meet #2

totally



Now that I think about it I've actually never been with a full white TS before...except that 1 time at PE and I was drunk....but that's a different story.

I can tell you this though, it does seem the Latina and Filipina TS's, especially the Filipina's, seem very much more comfortable with their cocks than many of the TS girls here.

I guess I need to go out tonight and find me some white ones so I can consumate my hypothesis.

:wink:Dude, there are plenty of black tgirls who are comfortable with their cock and like it played with. Don't waste your time dealing with the likes of these here. Luckily for me, every girl I see post some shit about not wanting a guy to pay attention to their cock, I'm not even remotely physically attracted to.





Yeah...I know.....I didn't mean to not include black girls in my statement because most of them do like their "girly-sticks" played with. lol


True story.

[Jay Jay]

This is interesting. I was at a club in Queens and a TS girl came up to me we danced a little bit and she asked me if I was gay. So I asked her what does that mean. So she askes me if I will fuck her good. I was like I can do that. Now she obviously to me escorts but her ass was really tight to me. Now on the way to her house she was telling me that she had a friend who always said black dick was good. So now I am looking at this like she talked to me because she wanted to get topped. I like this stereotype it works for me.

[happyjack]

I was out at some clubs & wanted to finish off the night with some action.
So i call a TG girl up since she was pretty hot from her ad & asked to hook up. She asked me what race I was, I said black....click. That's all i heard she hung up. So i figured whatever ...that girl didn't want to make money so I tried one more.

I drove over to her complex and gave her fee & she started to give me a bj. After about 15 min she took off my condom and i grabbed one of my condoms and started to put it on. She asked what was I doing...that she couldn't fuck tonight. i was like why didn't you say something before she apologized & said it was late and that she ate a lot & it might be messy.

I said cool & we agreed to show that she was sorry she refunded half of her fee since she did give me a bj for 15 min. She said she should have known when she saw that I was black that I wanted to fuck. She said that black guys want to fuck & white guys want to be fucked. I said are you serious its like that. She said yup.

So I guess just out of weird curiousity I ask this question out to the other girls who are escorting....is that true? I'm not saying that every white guy wants to be a bottom but out of guys that you've had on dates was the trend that white guys bottom more, lol.

Yes in my exp white guys do prefer to bottom more than black men.

That is one of the reasons I prefer dating black guys.

Finding a white guy who tops is more of a crap shoot

Kira,I'm white and I would love to top you,,boy would I,, :D :D