do u want a ts girlfriend or just fuk as many as possible

[BADAZZBODY]

hey fellas i am intersted to know how u fell and what u want..out of a tgirl if u want a t-girl for a girlfriend..or just have sex wit as many as possible..who what why..just honest truth about how u fell about trannys in a whole and what u want and desire from one in what ever situation that suits u

[lucx]

absolutely a TS girlfriend....

[abblecore]

right now i only mess with two tgirls and i would love for either one of them to be my girlfriend but sadly they both only visit ny

[Saintrose]

I currently date a beautiful black t-girl.
A very passable young lady. If you saw her on the street you wounldn't think twice about her gender. She is very lowkey just trying to live her life. Hold down a good 9 to 5 job. Not involved in the porn or tricking scene that SOME girls are into. I walk around comfortably with her in public. She's even met some of my friends...they have no clue.
I say dating a TS is the way to go. Running around all over the place gets tired after a while.

[BADAZZBODY]

its funny cause most of my girlfriends are single and they want boyfriends..but shit dont be workiing out or what ever.. i be trying to explain to them that a man is gonna be a man and if he attracted to u he gonna try to hit...but if u can keep him intrigued and wanting u with out being cold and anal..he wont loose interest and establish some type of bond that the sexual espect is not the main focus getting to know one another is..i mean thats my opinion ... some people i know meant thier lova and had sex with them on the first date and after that they was a couple ...it seems like in my experiences wit guys my relationships last longer wit someone i was attracted too but cool wit for a long time and we both have a chemistry towards each other....

[Saintrose]

its funny cause most of my girlfriends are single and they want boyfriends..but shit dont be workiing out or what ever.. i be trying to explain to them that a man is gonna be a man and if he attracted to u he gonna try to hit...but if u can keep him intrigued and wanting u with out being cold and anal..he wont loose interest and establish some type of bond that the sexual espect is not the main focus getting to know one another is..i mean thats my opinion ... some people i know meant thier lova and had sex with them on the first date and after that they was a couple ...it seems like in my experiences wit guys my relationships last longer wit someone i was attracted too but cool wit for a long time and we both have a chemistry towards each other....Yeah I agree Miss Badazz !
My ts girlfriend and I did't immediately jump in the sack.
We got to know each other a bit. Just got to find out about the other person.
Maybe your friends are just meeting the wrong type of guys. Maybe they are looking in the wrong place ?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

with all due respect it's a wild topic
ya damned if you do & ya damned if you dont!!!!!!!!!!
someone told me last night that the majority of TS' dont want a guy they even think has been around trannies because to them he's just a trick............ and if thats the case 99.9% of the men on this board would be considered tricks

do I agree with that philosophy...........of course not
but if thats the way many of the girls think who am I to say any different........

fellas I can honestly say there are some NICE girls out there who don't givafuck where & when they meet you, if they dig you they dig you and thats that.....

I'm just curious about that comment a girl made to me last night, and this topic relates to it

[tannedblkmale]

i would be in a relationship with one but she doesnt live in ny shes in the middle of the country so its very difficult when the distance is that great...but a relationship would be in order

[bknyballer3]

I agree with JWB.."ya damned if you do & ya damned if you dont!!!!!!!!!! "...as a guy you are screwed, I date a Ts for a short period of time before we got in the sack, after we broke up it was a trip meeting girls cause when they saw me they treadted like i was trick cause someone know i had fuck with the some tranny before.....

But look a guy is gonna treat you like how you treat him if you are tricking him he is gonna take what he can get (the sex) and bail. Theose of you looking for a bf need to stop with the bullshit, there are made guys out there that would love to date you and even married you but when you come off with the i am mightier the god bs attitude a guy is gonna give it right back to you

If you looking for a true husband why you only talking to guys that are looking to trick and not the guys that are chilling trying to talk to you?

[evil_twin]

I just trying to fuck them all.

[Big Booty Shemale Lover]

I currently date a beautiful black t-girl.
A very passable young lady. If you saw her on the street you wounldn't think twice about her gender. She is very lowkey just trying to live her life. Hold down a good 9 to 5 job. Not involved in the porn or tricking scene that SOME girls are into. I walk around comfortably with her in public. She's even met some of my friends...they have no clue.
I say dating a TS is the way to go. Running around all over the place gets tired after a while.

thats good stuff. wish I had one.

[Ecstatic]

I'm kind of in the middle: I'm married to a wonderful woman (24 years now!) who knows, understands and supports my occasionally seeing a TS, so I'm not looking for a girlfriend (and I'm probably too old for most of the girls on this board or in the escort scene to be interested anyway). However, I don't want to just bang every body in sight. What I'm about is becoming a regular client of a couple of girls who I can get to know as friends and who enjoy my company as well (or at least, GFE, make me feel like they really do). I've been lucky enough to know a couple of girls as friends, to be able to call them up and chat on the phone, to go out to dinner, to do other things as friends outside of "playtime," and I'm happy to "pay for play" when we hook up.

[bknyballer3]

I'm kind of in the middle: I'm married to a wonderful woman (24 years now!) who knows, understands and supports my occasionally seeing a TS, so I'm not looking for a girlfriend (and I'm probably too old for most of the girls on this board or in the escort scene to be interested anyway). However, I don't want to just bang every body in sight. What I'm about is becoming a regular client of a couple of girls who I can get to know as friends and who enjoy my company as well (or at least, GFE, make me feel like they really do). I've been lucky enough to know a couple of girls as friends, to be able to call them up and chat on the phone, to go out to dinner, to do other things as friends outside of "playtime," and I'm happy to "pay for play" when we hook up.

Ok and you are a lucky one...Most of the girls i knew if I was looking to pay for play they did not have the time , if i was just looking for someone to hang with take in a movie and chill. It is hard to get to know someone as a friend when they attack you off the ball like you are running game...Now I am not saying all the girls do that but alot of the ones i run in to do...I have one or to i can call friends though and that is a cool thing to have.

[Ecstatic]

bknyballer3, in my experience it takes both time and a special girl to reach a level of friendship and trust, and of course she has to see you that way as well, so whatever you can do to foster that is good. Basically I've been with about 10 TS escorts over the past few years. Most have been one-time encounters, with only four repeats. These are the ones where the connection and the pleasure of the encounter were so high I wanted to see the girl again. I have seen a couple of these girls about a dozen times each. We because friendlier with each session, and while there's certainly a monetary influence for a girl to keep 'em coming back, there was also a deeper connection than that. But it takes time and patience, especially considering the old saw "once a john, always a john": that's a hard position to get out of; gets back to what JW was talking about. But it can happen. And given where I am in life, this is the best that can happen for me. Plus there's one advantage to being a girl's friend over being her boyfriend: none of the drama that goes with the latter. 8)

[bknyballer3]

True you are right and like I said I have a few that i can say I am friends with, but not at the level you are with your friends. I think what you have is cool and it is like you said DRAMA free. But when you start talking to girls and you are not trying to be a "John" or "BF" some of them act real funny

[MISTYNITELY]

From a girls point of view id think wed have a better chance with virgin or less tranny experoenced men as bfs.I mean allot of times the movie and chill means "blockbuster nite and sit and chat till u get horny".I mean lets be real we are not real women but im sure i can speak for evry girl that we love to be courted in the same manner.Some guys try to avoid any instance of spending money ona girl .If she finds u attractive in {almost}every way why would she treat u like a trick ?If u didint mention sex and just let it happen naturally nobody would be complaining.ive heard the"i dont wanna do anything just yet but im curious just to know how big you are".But girsl im sure if nothing happens u will se the frustration and anxiousness on his face and that is very uncomforatble (at least for me0.iv walked out on dates or told them to go homeor better tell them .."oh would u like to find out now ..cant wait huh?"thats when i charge em.Nobody likes to be USED if ur USING that bf crap to get free sex that my dear is using .

[MISTYNITELY]

Now i must admit sometimes sex on the fisrts date might be necessary. I went ona date last year and he was very nice and i avoided having sex with him after knowing and dating hima few months we decided we wanted to have something real.that night when he pulled off hisclothes the body was amazing perfect ten but i looked down and he had 4inches erect {no lie} and didnt like to bttm .I immediately broke off the plans and i didnt not tell him why .but if i have 8.5 and u have 4 in and YOU dont like to bottom no thnX.SOMETIMES IT IS NECESSARY TO AT LEAST INSPECT.

[Perverted Monk]

I just trying to fuck them all.

Co-sign!!!

[bknyballer3]

Now i must admit sometimes sex on the fisrts date might be necessary. I went ona date last year and he was very nice and i avoided having sex with him after knowing and dating hima few months we decided we wanted to have something real.that night when he pulled off hisclothes the body was amazing perfect ten but i looked down and he had 4inches erect {no lie} and didnt like to bttm .I immediately broke off the plans and i didnt not tell him why .but if i have 8.5 and u have 4 in and YOU dont like to bottom no thnX.SOMETIMES IT IS NECESSARY TO AT LEAST INSPECT.


That is cold...Ok i agree with your first statement, and yes any women ts or gg wants to be courted and should be if you are really trying to be her BF. When i said a movie and chill i did not mean Blockbuster but you are right that can be the case with NO sex though one of my best friend is a GG...she and I have night when we go over to the other ones house and watch a movie and just chilled for night joking and watching tv made order in or one of us will cook(yes I can cook). We have never had any type of sexual contact....

[magic9inch]

Now i must admit sometimes sex on the fisrts date might be necessary. I went ona date last year and he was very nice and i avoided having sex with him after knowing and dating hima few months we decided we wanted to have something real.that night when he pulled off hisclothes the body was amazing perfect ten but i looked down and he had 4inches erect {no lie} and didnt like to bttm .I immediately broke off the plans and i didnt not tell him why .but if i have 8.5 and u have 4 in and YOU dont like to bottom no thnX.SOMETIMES IT IS NECESSARY TO AT LEAST INSPECT.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

many of the TS' I have met over the years have been REALLY FUCKIN COOL people; alot of them have tried to see me personally for dating (alot just wanted to fuck which wasn't happening, lol but thats another story for another thread). I dont know about other areas but I'm sure they are just the same as NYC when I say this: ALL THE GIRLS KNOW EACH OTHER!!!!!!!!!

Many guys run what i call "the triangle" meaning let me talk to shorty over here, ok she's cool I'll call her tomorrow and hit it, then next week "ok fucked her, let me talk to this one" etc. NOT REALIZING that they were probably sitting in the same room getting hormone shots from the same underground doctor talking about some cute guy and both realizing it was the SAME guy. Then that guy is the cat in the bathroom wondering why those 2 chicks are angry and have him at knifepoint.............
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/lou_cypher/ghettochicks_210.jpg

The john/trick theory is only heightened due to this shit, and I'm not knocking the guys that do it, because let's be real.............9 out of 10 of you have a shorty at home and this is basically a fantasy fulfilled for you. BUT what you are doing is wrong, particularly for the guys that dont have a shorty and really want to have something with one of these girls.

lol, ya damned if you do & ya damned if you don't

p.s. this is off something Misty said about dick size...................LOL, most of yall do inspections before anything else, lol............that should be mandatory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA

[MISTYNITELY]

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY TELLING THE TRUTH IS COLD!!THE MEN ON THIS BOARD PUT US T GIRLS ON FRONT STREET ALL THE TIME JUST BE LUCKY I DIDNT NAME NAMES{AS ALLOT OF MEN DO}!! OK U CAN DO ITWITHA GG ,BUT I BET UR NOT WONDERING IF SHES TOP OR BTTM OR HOW BIG HER PUSSY IS ! THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS CAN U DO WITH TS ?IM NOT SAYIN ALL MEN ARE THIS WAY IM JUST TALKIN FROM MY EXPERIENCE.

[MISTYNITELY]

Now i must admit sometimes sex on the fisrts date might be necessary. I went ona date last year and he was very nice and i avoided having sex with him after knowing and dating hima few months we decided we wanted to have something real.that night when he pulled off hisclothes the body was amazing perfect ten but i looked down and he had 4inches erect {no lie} and didnt like to bttm .I immediately broke off the plans and i didnt not tell him why .but if i have 8.5 and u have 4 in and YOU dont like to bottom no thnX.SOMETIMES IT IS NECESSARY TO AT LEAST INSPECT.


That is cold...Ok i agree with your first statement, and yes any women ts or gg wants to be courted and should be if you are really trying to be her BF. When i said a movie and chill i did not mean Blockbuster but you are right that can be the case with NO sex though one of my best friend is a GG...she and I have night when we go over to the other ones house and watch a movie and just chilled for night joking and watching tv made order in or one of us will cook(yes I can cook). We have never had any type of sexual contact.... SORRY THAT WAS PART QUOTE PART RESPONSE TO BKNYBALLER

[TomSelis]

Hmmm...I wouldn't mind a ts girlfriend. My thing is, why do girls get upset with guys for wanting to have a blockbuster night then fuck? I swear to god guys to this to GG's too and most GG's don't say "I'm going to treat them like tricks!"

This buggs me out when I see this. If you demand so much, why don't you tell a guy, "I want to go out to XYZ." if you don't get what you want...move on.

I swear, my best friend is not into trannies at all and he does this to GG's all the time. That's how I know. He makes them laugh, chills with them, will rent a movie, take them all over the place to meet people he's cool with and he hits it when he's horny. But when it's time to double date, do you think this cat is willing to pay for a Thai restaurant or a Japanese restaurant? Hell no! He'll pay for McDonalds or the Steak and Take on the corner though. His relationships never last more than a year, because the girls finally catch on.

Dude's girlfriend got at me one night he brought her over then went in my apt to "use the bathroom" when really dude was looking at porn on my PC. So we talked on my balcony for about a good hour and his chick was like. "What should I do? he don't take me nowhere, he don't do nothing with me, he's not hitting it right." She was good -looking too, like Scarlett in her not fat days.

I asked her, 'Do you tell him?' She never told him how she felt and she was afraid to lose him so she never told him. Even after I told her, "If you don't like it tell him."

Out of all the guys out here, you're going to let one guy get away with whatever he's getting away with and jade you? I feel sorry for the next guy.

[MISTYNITELY]

Hmmm...I wouldn't mind a ts girlfriend. My thing is, why do girls get upset with guys for wanting to have a blockbuster night then fuck? I swear to god guys to this to GG's too and most GG's don't say "I'm going to treat them like tricks!"

This buggs me out when I see this. If you demand so much, why don't you tell a guy, "I want to go out to XYZ." if you don't get what you want...move on.

I swear, my best friend is not into trannies at all and he does this to GG's all the time. That's how I know. He makes them laugh, chills with them, will rent a movie, take them all over the place to meet people he's cool with and he hits it when he's horny. But when it's time to double date, do you think this cat is willing to pay for a Thai restaurant or a Japanese restaurant? Hell no! He'll pay for McDonalds or the Steak and Take on the corner though. His relationships never last more than a year, because the girls finally catch on.

Dude's girlfriend got at me one night he brought her over then went in my apt to "use the bathroom" when really dude was looking at porn on my PC. So we talked on my balcony for about a good hour and his chick was like. "What should I do? he don't take me nowhere, he don't do nothing with me, he's not hitting it right." She was good -looking too, like Scarlett in her not fat days.

I asked her, 'Do you tell him?' She never told him how she felt and she was afraid to lose him so she never told him. Even after I told her, "If you don't like it tell him."

Out of all the guys out here, you're going to let one guy get away with whatever he's getting away with and jade you? I feel sorry for the next guy.LOL EVRYBODYS A HOMEBOY NOW LOL

[MISTYNITELY]

ANYWAY SHES DUM U SHOULDA FUCKED HER TOO LOL

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

yo the ethnicities are clashing, lol
Black folks wearing white dress shirts and argyle patterned sweaters
and
White folks wearing wife beaters and timbs or uptowns
(Moderator note: this is just a joke, don't take it as a racist remark, these are things that we all see day to day)
anyway

nothing's cold, props to yall for keeping this shit BRUTALLY HONEST............... it's about fucking time some people expressed themselves
and Misty mama....................name names
fuck that (just kidding, don't want a lawsuit from a nervous poster)

seriously guys & girls a Blockbuster anything aint worthy of a fuck, neither is McD's or even Starbucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you can't pay to play call off the moment until you can, and leave the cheap thoughts at home.......

damn last time I went to Blockbuster was like 5 years ago

[bknyballer3]

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY TELLING THE TRUTH IS COLD!!THE MEN ON THIS BOARD PUT US T GIRLS ON FRONT STREET ALL THE TIME JUST BE LUCKY I DIDNT NAME NAMES{AS ALLOT OF MEN DO}!! OK U CAN DO ITWITHA GG ,BUT I BET UR NOT WONDERING IF SHES TOP OR BTTM OR HOW BIG HER PUSSY IS ! THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS CAN U DO WITH TS ?IM NOT SAYIN ALL MEN ARE THIS WAY IM JUST TALKIN FROM MY EXPERIENCE.

True i feel you on that and I would everyone here is speaking from experience. You are right i don't think those things when i am with her, and I have been in that situation with a ts before, and to be honest if i am feeling you as a friend YES I can do it with anyone.

About the "COLD" statement, it was just funny how you shut him down, not that you are wrong for what you did. I guess i used the wrong phrase. I did not mean youwhere wrong for that.I know plenty of guys that dropped gurls cause they don't swallow or even suck dick.

In my case the statement " if we can't be lovers, we can't be friends" does not apply

[TomSelis]

I told that story to illustrate my point. I'm not grimey like that. Dudes will do whatever they can get away with. It's human nature.

Like Johnny said, "Damned if you do, damned if you don't."

[bknyballer3]

ANYWAY SHES DUM U SHOULDA FUCKED HER TOO LOL

LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

[MISTYNITELY]

I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY TELLING THE TRUTH IS COLD!!THE MEN ON THIS BOARD PUT US T GIRLS ON FRONT STREET ALL THE TIME JUST BE LUCKY I DIDNT NAME NAMES{AS ALLOT OF MEN DO}!! OK U CAN DO ITWITHA GG ,BUT I BET UR NOT WONDERING IF SHES TOP OR BTTM OR HOW BIG HER PUSSY IS ! THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION IS CAN U DO WITH TS ?IM NOT SAYIN ALL MEN ARE THIS WAY IM JUST TALKIN FROM MY EXPERIENCE.

True i feel you on that and I would everyone here is speaking from experience. You are right i don't think those things when i am with her, and I have been in that situation with a ts before, and to be honest if i am feeling you as a friend YES I can do it with anyone.

About the "COLD" statement, it was just funny how you shut him down, not that you are wrong for what you did. I guess i used the wrong phrase. I did not mean youwhere wrong for that.I know plenty of guys that dropped gurls cause they don't swallow or even suck dick.

In my case the statement " if we can't be lovers, we can't be friends" does not applyi said i broke off the plans of havinga relationship not being his friend ! we still chat online from time to time.

[BADAZZBODY]

THAT WAS AN INTERESTING POINT...AND ON THAT NOTE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH SOMEONE IS PACKING...THIS MIGHT DONT GO FOR ALL GIRLS BUT FOR ME..AS FAR AS SEX IS CONCERN I AM VERSITILE BUT I PREFER MY MAN TO HAVE A DICK THATS BIGGER THAN MINE OF COURSE...MOST OF THE GUYS I GOT INTO SERIOUS RELATIONSHIPS WIT I MEANT TROUGH REAL FEMALES OR BI LESBIANS (NON TRANSSEXUALS) AND U KNOW HOW FEMALES TALK ... OR I WILL JUST ASK...ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME..I KNOW THAT I WILL STILL DEAL WIT THE PERSON REGUARDLESS IF THEY WASNT BIG ENOUGH...BUT IF THEY HAVE ISSUE WIT CERTAIN SEXUAL THINGS THAT I NEED TO PLEASE ME AND IF THEY DONT DO CERTAIN THINGS AND THEY GOT A LIL DICK AND THEY CANT COMPRIMISE TO MAKE THINGS WORK BEST FOR BOTH OF US...WHAT MAKES U THINK IMMA JUST GET FUKED BY A LIL WOODY AND MY NEEDS WONT GET FORFILLED THATS CRAZY ,,,WHEN U IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT YALL REALLY NEED TO TALK AND COMPRIMISE....

[romeo]

@BADAZZBODY and MISTYNITELY

I guess small dicks (NOT ME!!! :roll: ) have no chances with you heh?

[MISTYNITELY]

Yeah i mean if i settled for what he was puttin down i woulda been cheatin like amofo .Hes a nice person and i wouldnt want to do that.Im sorry id rather be alone that get apinky in my ass{and thats it} evryday.

[MISTYNITELY]

I mean if i offended anyone im sorry BUT.... .IF U HAVE A PINKY PAY THAT COIN AND /OR GIVE UP THEM CAKES ...ITS NO SHADE.real women make up for their men havin small winkies he buys them evrything lol

[romeo]

LOL @MISTY

ok I have a 12 inches dick so I'm good for you I hope :oops: ....

by the way my name is Pinocchio 8)

[BADAZZBODY]

I WASNT SAYING THAT...I WAS SAYING I WOULD LIKE MY MAN TO HAVE A BIG DICK ITS A NECESSITY...BUT I WOULD STILL MESS WIT ONE IF HE DIDNT HAVE A BIG DICK...BUT IF HE IS UNCOMPRIMISING TO THE THINGS HE DO SEXUALLY LIKE.....SUCKING JERKING U KNOW SHIT THAT WILL GET U OFF...SOME GUYS WIT LIL DICKS BE STRICKLY TOP AND THEY DONT HAVE SHIT TO DO WIT YA DICK NO SUCKING NO FUCKING...NO ON THAT NOT I WOULDNT CARE HOW MUCH SOMEONE THINK WE SHOULD BE TOGETHER WE OBVIOULY WOULDNT WORK.


BUT BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND TS GIRL FRIEND OR JUST A FUCK...AND WHY

[romeo]

ok back to the subject....I dream sex sex sex with tgirls.....but in real life I would
like mainly a ts girlfriend just like a gg girlfriend 8)

[bknyballer3]

I mean if i offended anyone im sorry BUT.... .IF U HAVE A PINKY PAY THAT COIN AND /OR GIVE UP THEM CAKES ...ITS NO SHADE.real women make up for their men havin small winkies he buys them evrything lol


like I said before in the last message i posted " I did not mean youwere wrong for that" I found it funny and just type the wrong thing I apologize....but you are right if he is not making it up to u in the bedroom there is a problem.

[bknyballer3]

I WASNT SAYING THAT...I WAS SAYING I WOULD LIKE MY MAN TO HAVE A BIG DICK ITS A NECESSITY...BUT I WOULD STILL MESS WIT ONE IF HE DIDNT HAVE A BIG DICK...BUT IF HE IS UNCOMPRIMISING TO THE THINGS HE DO SEXUALLY LIKE.....SUCKING JERKING U KNOW SHIT THAT WILL GET U OFF...SOME GUYS WIT LIL DICKS BE STRICKLY TOP AND THEY DONT HAVE SHIT TO DO WIT YA DICK NO SUCKING NO FUCKING...NO ON THAT NOT I WOULDNT CARE HOW MUCH SOMEONE THINK WE SHOULD BE TOGETHER WE OBVIOULY WOULDNT WORK.


BUT BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND TS GIRL FRIEND OR JUST A FUCK...AND WHY


you are right there has to be a comprimise in that situation.

[romeo]

BADAZZBODY please stop that ass in your avatar....it's hypnotizing me :shock:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

nah fuck that, enough with this apologizing shit
ladies yall have a need for a big dick, say it be proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damnit

fellas yall have a desire for a sexual freak!!!!!!!!!!!! surprised no one has said this yet......regardless of physical attributes if you guys get with a woman GG or TS' you want her to be Janet Jacme/Vintage Vanessa Del Rio on you, not CBS Movie of the Week Jane Seymour-ish

LMAO

fellas if you aint packin, you aint packin, be proud of your wee wee (HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) just keep in mind that some of these girls see lil wee-wee's professionally on a weekly basis and aint tryin to have that in their private life as well

ladies: yall do you.....................I cant say shit about you to be honest, yall some fuckin sexual beasts, I swear.................and I love you for it

[bknyballer3]

nah fuck that, enough with this apologizing shit
ladies yall have a need for a big dick, say it be proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damnit

fellas yall have a desire for a sexual freak!!!!!!!!!!!! surprised no one has said this yet......regardless of physical attributes if you guys get with a woman GG or TS' you want her to be Janet Jacme/Vintage Vanessa Del Rio on you, not CBS Movie of the Week Jane Seymour-ish

LMAO

fellas if you aint packin, you aint packin, be proud of your wee wee (HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) just keep in mind that some of these girls see lil wee-wee's professionally on a weekly basis and aint tryin to have that in their private life as well

ladies: yall do you.....................I cant say shit about you to be honest, yall some fuckin sexual beasts, I swear.................and I love you for it



:lol: :lol: AND THAT IS WHY JWBL IS THE MAN!!! :lol: :lol: and yeah you ladies are as JWBL put it "some fuckin sexual beasts"

[hwbs]

Yeah i mean if i settled for what he was puttin down i woulda been cheatin like amofo .Hes a nice person and i wouldnt want to do that.Im sorry id rather be alone that get apinky in my ass{and thats it} evryday.



LMAO :P

[Donko]

I really have no idea until I start being with Tgirls- mabey I will be more of a boyfriend, or mabey I will just want variety

[SexxxyJade]

damn last time I went to Blockbuster was like 5 years ago

Thats only because you have Comcast "on demand" lolololol

Anyway let me put my 2 cents in now. This may sound funny coming from a TS but i dont see a problem with a guy sleeping with a variety of girls. Like someone said in a previous post, we wanna be treated like woman, but yet we want a guy who is fresh and has never been wiith a TS b4. Come on ladies. Fact is most guys come into the TS lifestyle, very curious, and he had to test the waters before he knows if its really the right thing for him. Personally I would prefer a man who is experienced and knows what he is doing. Not asking me questions about the lifestyle every 5 minl We take this whole tranny chaser thing wayyyyy too far. We wanna be treated like woman ok put urself in a woman shoes. Str8 guys who have had previous relationships and have alot of GG friends, do woman call them woman chasers....no, they are just regular guys who luv women. If u wanna be a woman then think like a woman and just find a guy who u like and like him and work with him. No one is perfect. Its already hard enuff having and maintaing a relationship in this lifestyle as it is, we need to stop being so picky amd insecure because therre are some really good guys out there but we brush them off as soon as we find out that they use to talk to ts cindy or ts madison. Life is full of obsticles, lets not make uneccesary ones for ourselves. I was watching a movie the other day where a group of guys where talking about how women are always against them, they were downing the book " Waiting to exhale", and one guy said he would write a book in retaliation against that book from a guys prespective called " Dayum Bytch Breath...ahhhhh" lmao that was funny. So I will tell all my Ts siister out there the same thing Dayum ma ...breath. Just go with it.

[bknyballer3]

damn last time I went to Blockbuster was like 5 years ago

Thats only because you have Comcast "on demand" lolololol

Anyway let me put my 2 cents in now. This may sound funny coming from a TS but i dont see a problem with a guy sleeping with a variety of girls. Like someone said in a previous post, we wanna be treated like woman, but yet we want a guy who is fresh and has never been wiith a TS b4. Come on ladies. Fact is most guys come into the TS lifestyle, very curious, and he had to test the waters before he knows if its really the right thing for him. Personally I would prefer a man who is experienced and knows what he is doing. Not asking me questions about the lifestyle every 5 minl We take this whole tranny chaser thing wayyyyy too far. We wanna be treated like woman ok put urself in a woman shoes. Str8 guys who have had previous relationships and have alot of GG friends, do woman call them woman chasers....no, they are just regular guys who luv women. If u wanna be a woman then think like a woman and just find a guy who u like and like him and work with him. No one is perfect. Its already hard enuff having and maintaing a relationship in this lifestyle as it is, we need to stop being so picky amd insecure because therre are some really good guys out there but we brush them off as soon as we find out that they use to talk to ts cindy or ts madison. Life is full of obsticles, lets not make uneccesary ones for ourselves. I was watching a movie the other day where a group of guys where talking about how women are always against them, they were downing the book " Waiting to exhale", and one guy said he would write a book in retaliation against that book from a guys prespective called " Dayum Bytch Breath...ahhhhh" lmao that was funny. So I will tell all my Ts siister out there the same thing Dayum ma ...breath. Just go with it.


WOW ........ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....is all I can say

[bknyballer3]

Honestly though Jada is right with her entire statement......a guy is gonna treat a TS like he treats a GG.... if you are jump off to him then that is what you are...If you are wifey then that is what you are.....he does not see a GG any diffrent same game he is running on you he is running on the GG that lives next door to him....and when a nice does come by and you treat him like he is dog that is how is going to act...cause he is thinking you are running the same game that GGs run.

[BADAZZBODY]

wow thats really deep sis i am felling u whole heartly on how u fell too..and thats some real shit..and thats how things should be..but reality is its not..because some girls truly dont want a guy thats been around wit alot of trannys period rather he trade or not..some girls are just totally turned off by the thought..on the other hand some girls dont mind it makes it easier...because if a guy is comfortable wit the tranny thing they dont have to go though the rocy stages of learning what they like and what they dont its pretty much open and in the air cause they been around. i done seen some nice looking fellas holla at all types of trannys from ones that just do drag on holloween...and that does make u think wow then what the fuck is going on..thats because that guy is more or less already comfortable wit the situation and he already known it was a man straight from the start..
having a little bit of mistery is fun..meeting someone and them not knowing and havent been around it..and them learning u and u learning them is a bit of a challenge..and it what some girls need..plus

but foreal foreal its alot of shit going on and no disrespect to any one at all to have seen what i seen.. and to know how some girls get down wit niggas and its shit out their that will sweap u off the map in a matter of years..not saying that gg cant do it either but i find it more risky dealing wit someone thats off the hook..that goes for cleints too...thats y most girls dont like to mess wit niggs that been around not because of missing out on someone good..but just because in the back of their mind they thinking some off the hook shyt

i am babbling but thats how some girls be

[Donko]

Baddaz,

Do most guys who have their first experience never try it again, or do you think most guys try it for the first time and can't get enough?

[MISTYNITELY]

damn last time I went to Blockbuster was like 5 years ago

Thats only because you have Comcast "on demand" lolololol

Anyway let me put my 2 cents in now. This may sound funny coming from a TS but i dont see a problem with a guy sleeping with a variety of girls. Like someone said in a previous post, we wanna be treated like woman, but yet we want a guy who is fresh and has never been wiith a TS b4. Come on ladies. Fact is most guys come into the TS lifestyle, very curious, and he had to test the waters before he knows if its really the right thing for him. Personally I would prefer a man who is experienced and knows what he is doing. Not asking me questions about the lifestyle every 5 minl We take this whole tranny chaser thing wayyyyy too far. We wanna be treated like woman ok put urself in a woman shoes. Str8 guys who have had previous relationships and have alot of GG friends, do woman call them woman chasers....no, they are just regular guys who luv women. If u wanna be a woman then think like a woman and just find a guy who u like and like him and work with him. No one is perfect. Its already hard enuff having and maintaing a relationship in this lifestyle as it is, we need to stop being so picky amd insecure because therre are some really good guys out there but we brush them off as soon as we find out that they use to talk to ts cindy or ts madison. Life is full of obsticles, lets not make uneccesary ones for ourselves. I was watching a movie the other day where a group of guys where talking about how women are always against them, they were downing the book " Waiting to exhale", and one guy said he would write a book in retaliation against that book from a guys prespective called " Dayum Bytch Breath...ahhhhh" lmao that was funny. So I will tell all my Ts siister out there the same thing Dayum ma ...breath. Just go with it.Ok peopel here we go again didnt i say i was speakin fom my own opinion and experiences?hmm yes i did .now what i did not say was we want to be treated like women yet we wanta guys whos fresh etc i did not put it that way read it carefully!!Now ive had ltrs that i have met that had never ben with ts b4 and they loved me for me and werent curious or nor in any way wanted to know about the ts lifestyle.u are not speakin from ur own experience u are giving the girls a guide sayin that is what they willl do totally untrue.and about stop bein so picky?smh@ that . would u like pinkys non bottom digits?hes very attractive bein that ur not picky and will settle for anything i can hooku uplol !!!I do not let me bein ts handicap me in any way nor do i have to settle for anyone in my life beacuse of it.if ur escorting and seeing only him and hes fukin evryone i know you use condoms witha all ur clients but i bet hes fukinall them girls for fun and doing 60% raw.SO JUST CASUE UR AN ESCORT DOESNT MEAN U HAVE TO SETTLE FOR A GUYS WHO WANTS TO FUK EVRYONE .BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER U JUST MIGHT SAVE A LIFE :D

[BADAZZBODY]

Baddaz,

Do most guys who have their first experience never try it again, or do you think most guys try it for the first time and can't get enough?

THAT DEPENDS ON THE GUY RATHER HE JUST WANNA KNOW HOW IT ITS(CURIOUS) OR JUST (OBSESED <<WRONG SPELLING AND THE GIRL THAT HE DO IT WIT..

IF A GUY IS REALLY OBSESSED WIT TRANNYS AND NEVER DID IT AND TRIED IT WIT A GIRL AND IT WASNT A GOOD EXPERIENCE I SEE HIM GIVING ANOTHER GIRL A TRY

BUT IF JUST A CURIOUS NIGGA THAT U STUMBLED ACROSS AND AT THAT TIME HE NEVER MEANT A TRANNY..NO ONE AROUND AND HE IS CURIOUS RIGHT AT THAT TIME..I THINK HE MIGHT TRY IT BUT AFTER HE BUST THAT NUT AND THAT GUILT TRIP HIT HIS ASS ABOUT WHAT HE DID..AND HE GET ALL MAD AT HIS SELF AND FELL GAY ASS FUK I DONT SEE HIM DOING IT NO MORE BUT MAYBE MAYBE NOT BUT IT MIGHT TAKE A WHILE IF IT WAS REALLY GOOD ...BUT TRUST ME IF HE WENT TROUGHA ALOT OF MENTAL SHIT AFTER IT IT WILL TAKE HIM A LONG TIME BEFORE HE DO IT AGAIN OR HE WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN

[SexxxyJade]

Ok peopel here we go again didnt i say i was speakin fom my own opinion and experiences?hmm yes i did .now what i did not say was we want to be treated like women yet we wanta guys whos fresh etc i did not put it that way read it carefully!!Now ive had ltrs that i have met that had never ben with ts b4 and they loved me for me and werent curious or nor in any way wanted to know about the ts lifestyle.u are not speakin from ur own experience u are giving the girls a guide sayin that is what they willl do totally untrue.and about stop bein so picky?smh@ that . would u like pinkys non bottom digits?hes very attractive bein that ur not picky and will settle for anything i can hooku uplol !!!I do not let me bein ts handicap me in any way nor do i have to settle for anyone in my life beacuse of it.if ur escorting and seeing only him and hes fukin evryone i know you use condoms witha all ur clients but i bet hes fukinall them girls for fun and doing 60% raw.SO JUST CASUE UR AN ESCORT DOESNT MEAN U HAVE TO SETTLE FOR A GUYS WHO WANTS TO FUK EVRYONE .BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER U JUST MIGHT SAVE A LIFE :D[/quote]

Miss Misty why are u replying to my post, I wasnt referring to you, I was speaking in general just like u were. Im entitled to my own opinon and thats what i gave. I dont even know you to even give u advice on anything. Were you threatned by my post? Did it hit a nerve? Maybe u did get off for $100..lol. But yea pussycat...read my post carefully especially the part about acting like a woman because most men will treat you how u act no matter how many TS they;ve been with. I didnt really take offense I was just wondering why u used my particular post in your response. And in case you dont know who I am...Im Miss Jada ma, so keep it cute.
Kisses

[romeo]

another catfight?

[BADAZZBODY]

I DONT THINK SHE KNOW MAYBE SHE NEED TO BE INFORMED

[MISTYNITELY]

HUN there was a snippet of my post in ur post i was just clarifying it the way i put it .i was the only one who said that .As far as who u are or what u are i dont care its just a forum where we post opinions and views back and forth.If u were one of these kind of guys i would of posted the same thing.Im not trying to make any enemies and niether should u WE BOTH DONT KNOW EACH OTHER .WE CAN LEAVE IT AT THAT .now if u have any views and opinions on this forum and i find it interesting ?it is public and i will express my view and opinion.

[SexxxyJade]

Its like this, I come on hung angels to entertain my fans, males, and ts admirers, im not the type of girls to entertain "the girls" so you do you and I do me becuase i dont wanna argue back and forth with anyone. As long as you understood me clearly, this is a public forum true, so i will publicly say Goodday!!!

[SexxxyJade]

I DONT THINK SHE KNOW MAYBE SHE NEED TO BE INFORMED

Well now she does!!!!!

[MISTYNITELY]

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[NickTheQuick]

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[BADAZZBODY]

i dont blame u..now back to whats i was saying

what kind of tranny chaser are u (what kind of trannys do u like and attracted too..hmmmm

[romeo]

ok peace is done .....or not?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I like TS' that look like this
http://www.stagestars.net/ciara/gallery/pictures/Picture2.jpg

not ones that look like this

http://www.hawkgirl.net/heros/goddess.jpg

or this

http://erosny.com/file-images/ny-db1-cecilia1-1.jpg

but thats my preference

some dudes obviously like broads like the last one because for 3 weeks her ad has been up on eros...................go figure

one other thing: attitude plays an IMPORTANT role in alot of this and I don't think it's been mentioned as much as it should

I have been around long enough to watch some of the NYC "ladies" treat some of the less fortunate in the male looks dept. fellows like dogshit, and in return I don't give them the time of day; simply because if they would treat him like that, it might be headed my way on an off day. So in the end if what I do is considered chasing (lol all yall that know me offline KNOW I don't chase...................LMAO) then I guess I chase after the "ladies" that are classy. Like Badazz I too am beginning to babble so I'm gonna end this post..............

[TomSelis]

Who looks like Hawkgirl that's what I wanna know. PM me with that info Johnny.

[BADAZZBODY]

I like TS' that look like this
http://www.stagestars.net/ciara/gallery/pictures/Picture2.jpg

not ones that look like this

http://www.hawkgirl.net/heros/goddess.jpg

or this

http://erosny.com/file-images/ny-db1-cecilia1-1.jpg

but thats my preference

some dudes obviously like broads like the last one because for 3 weeks her ad has been up on eros...................go figure

one other thing: attitude plays an IMPORTANT role in alot of this and I don't think it's been mentioned as much as it should

I have been around long enough to watch some of the NYC "ladies" treat some of the less fortunate in the male looks dept. fellows like dogshit, and in return I don't give them the time of day; simply because if they would treat him like that, it might be headed my way on an off day. So in the end if what I do is considered chasing (lol all yall that know me offline KNOW I don't chase...................LMAO) then I guess I chase after the "ladies" that are classy. Like Badazz I too am beginning to babble so I'm gonna end this post..............



finish continueing what u where about to say cause i enjoy reading your opinion of things what u say is how it really is and its good to give people a variety of different ways that trannys and men that like them are i notice u seen alot of things just like me so educate homie

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

ok
I go to Allanahs events because of a few things but second to the excellent staff that works the club making me feel secure, I go because the women that go there are usually very fuckin cool. I will admit you get a few "characters" from time to time but that's to be expected. I wish some of these Woody Allen types that frequent the parties would get a clue and move on to the next lady if they are getting treated like shit by another one.

Case in point: I went to a local spot last night known to have TS girls there, and it was packed....... Many of the girls that circulate Allanahs parties were in there and I got some warm greetings from most of them (because I aint tryin to fuck em fellas "listen & learn" lol) I do recall an incident I had with a bitch (yes JWBL called a broad a bitch) who I bought a drink for and another broad came over to say hello and left the club............the bitch I bought the drink for caught an attitude and tried to dismiss me. So I let it go and moved on, and when I saw her last night I didn't give her the time of day..............
Fellas..............
she went out of her way to get my attention. Ladies (GG or TS) HATE IT when you purposely ignore them (learn muhfuckas, learn). After I left the club and said goodbye to the "nicer ladies" she ran across the street to tap my car with her purse and then walked off; childish behavior at best........but I drove away laughing, cuz she fucked up.

I respect every lady I meet, up until the point where I see them act up thinking they are the shit.........thats when I go about my business, some of you party dwellers should do the same. I know many of you read the boards, sometimes as Megabody used to put it, it is pathetic to watch these ladies work you over like you're children.

I only say this because some of you want relationships from some of these ladies and they are upfront telling you in body language or smart ass remarks that they aren't interested, while you follow them around like puppies chasing the Gravy Train. Enough already...................

Ladies like I said most of yall are cool, this is just me venting on those few bad apples on that lower tree branch.

[Ecstatic]

Personally I would prefer a man who is experienced and knows what he is doing. Not asking me questions about the lifestyle every 5 minl We take this whole tranny chaser thing wayyyyy too far. We wanna be treated like woman ok put urself in a woman shoes.
Well said, Jada! It takes time to gain that experience. Great dialogue happening on the forum today!

[BADAZZBODY]

well well...body language does mean alot..and alot of people try not to pay attention to it but if they did then they would not be gagging all that time u can look at someone eyes and watch how they vibe wit u and watch how much their attention is on u and the lil things they say..some people get caught up and mezmerized by what they see almost as if they day dreaming..not paying attention that someone is not felling u at the moment or dont wanna be bother...

thats y i always say y do people live thier life day dreaming...

[Ecstatic]

Now i must admit sometimes sex on the fisrts date might be necessary. I went ona date last year and he was very nice and i avoided having sex with him after knowing and dating hima few months we decided we wanted to have something real.that night when he pulled off hisclothes the body was amazing perfect ten but i looked down and he had 4inches erect {no lie} and didnt like to bttm .I immediately broke off the plans and i didnt not tell him why .but if i have 8.5 and u have 4 in and YOU dont like to bottom no thnX.SOMETIMES IT IS NECESSARY TO AT LEAST INSPECT.
Compatibility comes in many flavors: physical is certainly an important one. But Misty Nitely, if you're 8.5" you're a lot bigger than most guys, so that certainly reduces the pool. I'm 6" (right in the middle of the pack sizewise), but I enjoy it all, top and bottom and oral. But yeah, you've got to be compatible if it's gonna work.

[DatNigga4Real]

I just trying to fuck them all.

Co-sign!!!

I Agree

I do Trannies Like they REAL females. Make Friends and Fuck, Not interested in a relationship with a tranny. But if i was, Everyone already knows who my choice would be. 8)

[DatNigga4Real]

Oh and for the "what kind of tranny do u prefer question." I like em with a phat booty and nice tits and the "oh so pretty" face. I need a bitch that looks like a REAL woman, because thats how i see em. I like em, Tall, Intelligent, Nice Voice, Brown Skin, Phat Booty, and Nice Soft Breast. Damn who did i just describe?

[Eric420]

I spend a lot of time thinking about having someone very special and close to me to enjoy life with all the time. I also think about sex all the time..... But, I would definatly take having one great dedicated loving GF over getting sex with a lot of girls... But what would really be perfect is having a GF that likes to play around as much as I do, so WE had lots of times with other people...

I mean, being on a bed going to sleep spooning with the person you love... Thats a great feeling. I am not the kind of guy who can lie in bed next to someone they are not into and sleep with them... I just cant get down lke that... Meaningless sex with a drive home, sure, I can handle that(sort of), I know I have a slut side in me.. But the good guy side of me(that loves the slut in me) is really my true moral conscience........

[BADAZZBODY]

so really for the most part most of yall are just looking for a hot chick that u cool wit to hook up with...from time to time nothing to serious but when u call or she call its on huh.............

[Reddman]

Hey Bad i prefer and i'm doing the LTR with a TS GF thing more so than the chasing miscelaneous ass thing. Me and my GF lived together for 4+ years right from the start (basically a good and smart gurl who use to run the streets/stroll like a lot of chicks and all the drama from adjusting to finding herself when leaving the type of lifestyle behind , broke up moved on for 4 years (i f*&ked up by falling for a platonic GG who knew i dated tg and gg plus my tgurl was driving me crazy lol ) and now we are living seperate apts but back together the last 5 years.

Thing is when we broke up the 1st time it worked her that it involved a GG but she said it was better than going off with another TG, said she should be my only "queen" . But after that relationship ran it's course i kicked it with both gg and tg but never found anyone worth a real love connection. I'm in it for the long run now with her but trust me it's a work in process. Funny thing is if we call it quits i don't know if i could have the fortitude to find or meet a legit TG to get this serious with again.

[Big Booty Shemale Lover]

As a straight man, I guess you can say i'm a "topper".
I have about 9 inches under my belt, so I got no problems topping.
I'm straight, so I could never be a "bottom". I could never be on the receiving end of a dipstick. If I had a TS girlfriend she would have to be a passable passive one who prefers to be a bottom.

If we were in a serious relationship and she needed to top someone every now and then, we would have to have some sort of arrangement where she can fuck other people. because I know she has needs to top sometimes and it cant be me.

but that would probably make me jealous and want to fuck other people too. so we would have problems trying to be a monogamous couple.
so i guess all we could do is be just sex partners.

[ska]

Well I for one would really be interested in a real relationship with a tgirl. I'm currently involved with a real GG but I could easily see myself in a relationship with a tgirl.

Now that being said, I have to admit I've never had any real contact with a tgirl either. So maybe I dont have enough info to make that claim. I just know the idea of it is extremely exciting and I would not hold the fact that she is not a genetic female against her. I am definately interested in way more than just the sex though. I find tgirls very fascinating in alot of the things they do and live. Or my perception of how they live and act anyway.

[castabyss]

Come on ladies. Fact is most guys come into the TS lifestyle, very curious, and he had to test the waters before he knows if its really the right thing for him. Personally I would prefer a man who is experienced and knows what he is doing. Not asking me questions about the lifestyle every 5 minl We take this whole tranny chaser thing wayyyyy too far.

Thank God one of the girls finally said that. That's exactly my story. When I first became curious about the TS scene, my only way in seemed to be through escorts. So, yeah, I was a trick, until I got the information I needed to meet TS's in other ways. I dated a TS girl briefly, but unfortunately she had a cocaine problem, so I didn't stick around for very long. Now I meet a few girls here and there and no longer pay for it. I've made a couple TS friends as well, even though we're not interested in each other sexually.

As far as the original question, I think right now I'd be ready for a relationship with a TS or a GG. I've spent the last 3 years "Dating" (whatever that is) after a 7 year relationship, so I'm ready for some consistency to my companionship. But that could change in 6 months, who knows? The point is, is that it has nothing to do with whether the girl is a TS or a GG; it's depends on where I'M at, you see?

Jon

[AllanahStarrNYC]

oooohh a good juicy topic!

darling, i could write an epic about my interesting encounters with the species known as the "tranny admirer" but i will save some of that for my biography and will spare you a very long and drawn out commentary.

when i was younger and foolish- i thought the first man who paid the list bit of attention to me was interested in me and what to be my boyfriend-
boy was i WRONG. as it turned, and still turns out, most men, in my experience that like transsexuals are really just after sex or friends with sexual benefits. i have been involved in long term relationships as a trannsexual, the longest was a 2 and a half years period were we lived together. actually, he was the reason i moved to new york-hence, why i always say i am an acciddental new yorker because at the time i had no intention of living here, it just happened.

in my early 20's i was desperately seeking love for whatever reason (not enough love or acceptance growing up, or not loving or accepting myself enough). i have made many mistakes in the name of "love" very stupid ones, at that.

i really believe deep down inside that the minority of men who like trannsexuals are actually wanting a transsexual girlfriend. the reasons are many, but i can site insecurity, worries about family and friends, not being comfortable with the attraction or themselves for having the attraction, the ability of having children (or lack off) and just the whole social stigma. it takes a really speacial man, and i say MAN-because a man to me is a person who really accepts himself anf his life and lives it for himself and has the balls to be who he is (wether he be straight, gay, or a trans lover).

let's face it- most men see trannsexuals as fantasy ovjects or sexual gratification. there is nothing wrong with that. but there is something wrong when that person feels shame, or guilt, or nregative feelings about it because i personally believe those feelings are then transformed into the way he treats transsexuals.

the key here is honesty folks. the girls have to be honest with who they are and what they want and so do the men. you have no idea how many times i have been having a simple friendly conversation with a guy at one of my parties and his eyes are all over the place. that is just plain rude behaviour, but its a typical trait of a certain kind of man.

i have had the oppurtunity to meet some great men in my life who have treated me divinely as well as assholes who have treated me like shit.

it's difficult to be in the sex industry and have people take you seriously anyway. most men just seem to assume that you are a nymphomaniac and want to fuck everything and anything.

i love to flirt and use my sexual powers-but it usually ends there. i may go out on a date or two- but what makes me happy? my work, my friends, my shoes lol- seriously, the older i get the more i relaize i do not need an ltr. it would be nice to meet someone who had the same interest and was articulate, handsome, intelligent, wordly, and a perfect match.
but, that is a hard find.

anyway darlings, i do not care ehat anyone says- monogamy for a man is impossible, i will say it again IMPOSSIBLE.

i think women really need to accept that- especially transsexuals. they all want a guy who has not been with anyone and say oh, he has been with so and so. but guess what ladies, the dating pool amongst us is much smaller than women. we all just happen to know each other while the 30 other women he has been with have no idea who they are. do the math. it is quite simple. what is this fascination about a man being a ts virgin? please, so many of these girls have been with hundreds of men yet they expect the guy to be a saint. that makes no sense.

[castabyss]

monogamy for a man is impossible

No offense, but that's ridiculuos. Sorry, but that kind of generalization, while based on reasonable prinicples, is ultimately full of holes.

Just my opinion.

CA

[flabbybody]

thanks for the great post Allanah. For someone who looks 25, you have great wisdom beyond your years. I do find that girls look for ts 'virgins'. And they aint out there.
so why can't they just accept us chasers for what we are? I think I'm a pretty decent person who just wants to hang with someone who's cool with who I am. I like to go out to eat and see a movie and I don't care what anyone thinks. As long as she's comfortable with me.

[tsluver247]

I am straight male. Besides TS porn, I do not interact with TSs very often unless I go to a TS club, which has been rare now-a-days. I can not see me with a TS girlfriend unless the person is special inside. Even if I had a TS girlfriend, I will eventually want children, which a TS girlfriend can not give me. I do not plan to fuck as many TSs as possible, since I pick and choose my lovers very carefully. I am just happy to be a TS admirer, watching TS porn, and subscribing to TS sites as well as contributing to this board.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

cas

monogomay is IMPOSSIBLE

it is something that is taught- not instintive to an animal
we are all animals

i have had enough experience in the sex industry and with men to know darling, and enough in depth conversations

and it goes both ways

thanks flabby-

all those stiches are making me look 25 ;)

[tsluver247]

Most animals usually mate for life. The only species that have intercourse for pleasure are dolphins and humans. I guess that is why they consider a dolphin a smart species. :lol:

It is hard finding the "right person". Everyone wants to marry or have a long-term relationship with someone that has not been around the block. In my opinoin, it seems like the game of life: fuck as many people as you can and enjoy yourself, when you find the right one, settle down. If things go wrong in the relationship fuck someone else and move on.

As a nice guy, I do not know how many times I listened to the nice women continue to try to get back with their ex-boyfriends when all they do is complain about them. It took me a while to figure out that these women were just venting their frustrations since their boyfriend was not perfect or they want someone to listen to them for once :wink: . No one is perfect. Finding someone for a long term relationship is all about finding someone that is just as fucked up as you are (not pointed to anyone). Let's face it, most nice people do not want to get with nice people in fear they may hurt each other's feelings. That is just my 2 cents.

Allanah, if you are honest about writing a book about your life, I would definitely buy it. I would like to read about a TS's hardships and how you overcame the obstacles in your life to become a leader in the TS community. Plus I would not mind read about "TS admirers" like myself. :lol:

[Ecstatic]

Sorry, tsluver, but I have to go with Allanah on this: most animal species are not monogamous. Many DO mate for life, in that they pair bond and remain a couple until one of them dies, but that doesn't mean they are faithful mates. Males in particular wander (big surprise there: on a biological imperative level, it's all about how to best preserve the species, males by impregnating as many females as possible, females by nurturing the young). Here's a bit you might find interesting:

Q: Which animals mate for life? (Jen, New York, New York)

The gray wolf mates for life. Pups are born in the spring. Through the summer while the pups grow in ability, the adults hunt singly. Each autumn, the pups join the hunting pack and both parents teach them to hunt and kill prey. A family group of about five members (the parents and various offspring) stay together and form a hunting pack. [Gary Kramer, US Fish and Wildlife Service]

A: Gibbon apes, wolves, termites, coyotes, barn owls, beavers, bald eagles, golden eagles, condors, swans, brolga cranes, French angel fish, sandhill cranes, pigeons, prions (a seabird), red-tailed hawks, anglerfish, ospreys, prairie voles (a rodent), and black vultures — are a few that mate for life.

Of course, it depends on what you mean by "mate for life." These creatures do mate for life in the social sense of living together in pairs but they rarely stay strictly faithful. About 90 percent of the 9,700 bird species pair, mate, and raise chicks together — some returning together to the same nest site year after year. Males, however, often raise other males’ offspring unknowingly. DNA testing reveals that the social-pair male did not father 10, 20, and sometimes 40 percent of the chicks.

Black vultures, though, discourage infidelity. All nearby vultures attack any vulture caught philandering.

Only about 3 percent of the 4,000 mammal species are monogamous (and Homo sapiens isn’t one of them). Beavers, otters, bats, wolves, some foxes, a few hoofed animals, and some primates live together in social pairs but dally sexually much as birds do.

Wolves, for example, are generally monogamous but also breed polygamously if the male is unrelated to the female and prey is plentiful. Moreover, they sometimes have more than one mate in a lifetime, says Dan Stahler, biologist at the Yellowstone Gray Wolf Restoration Program run by the National Park Service. This happens "if one mate dies, gets kicked out of the pack, or is physically unable to breed due to injury, illness, etc."

One species is absolutely monogamous. In the black darkness of the deep sea, the tiny male anglerfish (perhaps one tenth the female’s size) detects and follows the scent trail of a female of his own species. Once found, he bites his chosen one and hangs on. His skin fuses to hers, their bodies grow together (he gets his food through a common blood supply and becomes essentially a sperm producing organ). They mate for life — a short life for the male.

Further Reading:

J. Young and Zuoxin Wang (2004) The Neurobiology of the Pair Bond. Nature Neuroscience. 7:1048-1054.

National Geographic News: Lovebirds and love darts

University of Washington: Deflating the myth of monogamy by David P. Barash

http://www.wonderquest.com/animal-mate-for-life.htm

[partlycloudy]

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[tsluver247]

Bonobos and dolphins are the only animals other than humans who engage in sex for pleasure. (http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/pleasure.htm)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Thank You Ecstatic

Monogamy is a socially thought behaviour.

In fact, sociological historically speaking- polygamy has been the most common form of marrige through out the ages.
As well as arranged marriges. marriges were not done because of love, they were done to benefit families, royalty, and for business alliances.

the idea of marrying for love is relatively new- in fact very new when you go back in civilization and look at the history of marrige.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

PS.

I don't think monogamy has anything to do with being a "nice guy" or "nice girl"
it is about honesty

and since most people can not be honest about it- they pretend they can be monogamous and eat, breathe, and live their own lies

[Ecstatic]

You're entirely welcome, and right, Allanah. Although marrying for love has appeared at various times and in most cultures, it was usually the exception, not the rule. In the West, it was not until the idea of courtly or "romantic" love appeared in the late middle ages (the era of the wandering troubadour) that it became the dominate form.

tsluver, it's an urban legend that only humans, bonobos and dolphins have sex for pleasure. The confusion arises because what actually distinguishes these three species from other animals is that they engage in heterosexual sex when the female is not at a point in her gestation cycle suitable for successful impregnation. That's not quite the same thing; other animals are (presumably at least) deriving pleasure from sex.

[hwbs]

PS.

I don't think monogamy has anything to do with being a "nice guy" or "nice girl"
it is about honesty

and since most people can not be honest about it- they pretend they can be monogamous and eat, breathe, and live their own lies

couldnt agree with u more.... :lol:


ps..i think im coming down with your cold,lol

[AllanahStarrNYC]

thankfully mine is going away-

going bavk to the animal discussion

it should be noted as well, that homosexual "sex" also happens quite often in animal species

monkeys, dogs, even wild pigs- just to name a few

[BADAZZBODY]

I WOULD AGREE TOTALLY WITH.. THE HISTORY OF EARYLY AGES..AND ALSO WITH NATURAL ANIMAL SEXUALITY AND INSTINTC..BUT TRUELLY ....BUT AS HUMAN WE ARE DIVERSE... AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH...AS HUMAN WE ARE JUDGEING OUR SELVES ACCORDING TO THE PAST HISTORY OF OTHER MAMMAL SPECIES...
EXCUSE MY SPELLING I DONT HAVE A THESUROUS HERE..

BUT JUST HERE ME OUT.

LIKE WITH SOME BREADS THEY BREAD FOR LIFE AND SOME ARE MONOGAMUS..BUT IN ALL ACUALLITY...LACK OF COMMUNICATION... LACK OF GETTING TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER..AND HAVING A STERN FOUNDATION IS THE KEY IF U ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS TRUE....I KNOW THAT I HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE MONOGAMUS TO SOMEONE FOREVER,,,BUT WILL I BE, OR U IS THE BIG QUESTION...AND CAN IT LAST FOR A LIFETIME IS ANOTER BIG ONE....MAYBE MAYBE NOT BUT DONT EXCLUDE THE FACT...THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN...BUT HEY EVERYONE MIGHT HAVE THEIR OWN DEFINATION OF BEING MONOGUMUS...ESPECIALLY WIT ESCORTS AND PEOPLE IN THE SEX INDUSTRY.. BUT MOREOVER NO ONE SHOULD BE JUDGED BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DONE IN THE PAST OR WHAT FANTASY THEY WANT TO FORFILL...ITS JUST TO BE HONEST ABOUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WHEN IT COME TO A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP ...

SOME PEOPLE HAVE HANG UPS ABOUT CERTAIN SHIT ...AND SOME DONT.. SOME PEOPLE ACCEPT PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY DONE AND SOME DONT...

NOT SAYING THAT TWO PEOPLE CAN OR CANNOT HAVE A TRUE AND FAITHFUL RELATIONSHIPS..CAUSE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS....

BUT AS HUMANS ME KNOW THAT TEMPTATION IS A BITCH...ONCE A COUPLE CAN CONQUER THAT THEN...ITS HAPPILY EVER AFTER....

SO WITH THAT...ARE U A PRODUCT OF TEMPTATION...OR U ARE IN SEARCH OF EVERLASTING LOVE OR ARE U A PRODUCT OF SOMEONES FANTASY FOR YOUR FINANCIAL GAIN...WINK..

[Man Fuck It]

I WOULD AGREE TOTALLY WITH.. THE HISTORY OF EARYLY AGES..AND ALSO WITH NATURAL ANIMAL SEXUALITY AND INSTINTC..BUT TRUELLY ....BUT AS HUMAN WE ARE DIVERSE... AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH...AS HUMAN WE ARE JUDGEING OUR SELVES ACCORDING TO THE PAST HISTORY OF OTHER MAMMAL SPECIES...
EXCUSE MY SPELLING I DONT HAVE A THESUROUS HERE..

BUT JUST HERE ME OUT.

LIKE WITH SOME BREADS THEY BREAD FOR LIFE AND SOME ARE MONOGAMUS..BUT IN ALL ACUALLITY...LACK OF COMMUNICATION... LACK OF GETTING TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER..AND HAVING A STERN FOUNDATION IS THE KEY IF U ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT IS TRUE....I KNOW THAT I HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE MONOGAMUS TO SOMEONE FOREVER,,,BUT WILL I BE, OR U IS THE BIG QUESTION...AND CAN IT LAST FOR A LIFETIME IS ANOTER BIG ONE....MAYBE MAYBE NOT BUT DONT EXCLUDE THE FACT...THAT IT HAS BEEN DONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN...BUT HEY EVERYONE MIGHT HAVE THEIR OWN DEFINATION OF BEING MONOGUMUS...ESPECIALLY WIT ESCORTS AND PEOPLE IN THE SEX INDUSTRY.. BUT MOREOVER NO ONE SHOULD BE JUDGED BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DONE IN THE PAST OR WHAT FANTASY THEY WANT TO FORFILL...ITS JUST TO BE HONEST ABOUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WHEN IT COME TO A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP ...

SOME PEOPLE HAVE HANG UPS ABOUT CERTAIN SHIT ...AND SOME DONT.. SOME PEOPLE ACCEPT PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY DONE AND SOME DONT...

NOT SAYING THAT TWO PEOPLE CAN OR CANNOT HAVE A TRUE AND FAITHFUL RELATIONSHIPS..CAUSE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS....

BUT AS HUMANS ME KNOW THAT TEMPTATION IS A BITCH...ONCE A COUPLE CAN CONQUER THAT THEN...ITS HAPPILY EVER AFTER....

SO WITH THAT...ARE U A PRODUCT OF TEMPTATION...OR U ARE IN SEARCH OF EVERLASTING LOVE OR ARE U A PRODUCT OF SOMEONES FANTASY FOR YOUR FINANCIAL GAIN...WINK..


But ummm....fukk all that...tell C**** to holla at me when she touch down...lol

[BADAZZBODY]

WELL WELL I ALWAYS TELL MY GIRLFRIENDS WHO ARE INTO THEM AND HOW WANNA HOLLA...BUT AS U KNOW AND U KNOW THEM WELL...

AS FOR CH..... SHE ALREAY KNOWS I ALREADY TOLD HER..AND ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ITS NOTHING MORE I CAN DO ON MY PART BECAUSE I ALWAYS PUT U DOWN IT WHOMEVER...THE NEXT STEP ITS UP TO THEM AND WHAT U DO,,AND THATS FOR @MANFUCKIT..

[Man Fuck It]

WELL WELL I ALWAYS TELL MY GIRLFRIENDS WHO ARE INTO THEM AND HOW WANNA HOLLA...BUT AS U KNOW AND U KNOW THEM WELL...

AS FOR CH..... SHE ALREAY KNOWS I ALREADY TOLD HER..AND ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS ITS NOTHING MORE I CAN DO ON MY PART BECAUSE I ALWAYS PUT U DOWN IT WHOMEVER...THE NEXT STEP ITS UP TO THEM AND WHAT U DO,,AND THATS FOR @MANFUCKIT..

Yo hit me on the private message shit, so I can give you my # for her...

[tsluver247]

tsluver, it's an urban legend that only humans, bonobos and dolphins have sex for pleasure. The confusion arises because what actually distinguishes these three species from other animals is that they engage in heterosexual sex when the female is not at a point in her gestation cycle suitable for successful impregnation. That's not quite the same thing; other animals are (presumably at least) deriving pleasure from sex.

The link I provided stated that the urban legend is true using a strict definition. I am not arguing that most humans can not be monogamous, though I do believe that ALL humans are monogamous is a wrong statement. It is like saying ALL humans are straight. There are always exceptions to the rule.

As far as the argument, I do not prescribe to Allanah's theory that humans are not monogamous because we are animals. You even argeed that most animals mate for life, which was my point. I am not arguing whether or not certain aniamls have masturbated, have homosexual encounters, or may not be completely faithful to their mate. I do not argee with the logic that human = animals, therefore they can not monogamous (when MOST, not ALL, animals usually mate for life). As far as Allanah and your points that humans are mostly not monogamous, I will argue with the statement, but I do not like the analogy or comparison being used.

As far as monogamy is a socially thought behaviour, I do not know for sure since this is a nature versus nuture debate, though I do tend to lean in the nuture camp like Allanah.

As far as my opinions on marriage, marriage is just a piece of paper stating that two people are married.

[Ecstatic]

The link I provided stated that the urban legend is true using a strict definition. I am not arguing that most humans can not be monogamous, though I do believe that ALL humans are monogamous is a wrong statement. It is like saying ALL humans are straight. There are always exceptions to the rule.
It's a matter of interpretation of that definition: strictly speaking, bonobos, dolphins and humans are unusual in that they will mate (heterosexual intercourse) when the female is not gestating; in virtually all other mammals (though there may be other exceptions), heterosexual intercourse only occurs when the female is ready to reproduce (is "in heat"). However, this doesn't mean they don't have sex for pleasure. The pleasure principle is a driving force, and in fact may explain the high incidence of homosexual sex between members of many species.

I think that humans may be more accurately described as being serially monogamous: moving from partner to partner, but active with only one partner at a time. Of course, many humans are not monogamous even this way, but some are.

[BKghost]

know i am jumping in here on the back end of things but I have something to say that hasn't been brought up that PERSONALLY HAUNTS ME.

I would love to have a TS as a GF, in fact I "dated one for about 6mths. I am all man,black, straight, I do the fucking. A cple things that were brought up during the length of my relatioship was that she would say slick shit like " I was gay" or whatever for liking her. Mind you she was all woman, natural ass, hips, sexy ass lips, voice, to this day my college buddies don't know she was a transgender woman. We step in the club and it was all eyes on her and then on me, she was that fine.
Anyways we would have these deep convos at times, discussing sexuality , growing up confused etc. and on one hand she would say to me ever since she knew herself she felt female, and she actually thought that girls had dicks cuz she had one. i saw pics of her as a child and i swear to you it was like i was looking at a little girl.
Anyway, she would say that to me and i would honestly and with all my heart view her as a woman who just happened to be born with the wrong equipment , who knows, coming from a Pre-med degree it really made me ponder and re think the whole "gay issue" , like I honestly believe that she was born genetically feminine, like she had an extra X chromosome or something. We would have these convos and then she would turn around and say sometimes jokingly at times that i was gay cuz i was with her. That used to bother me cuz all 26 yrs of my life I never questioned my sexuality, i knew and still know what I like, and i like women. I used to lay the pipe on her like no other. :-)
That comment used to disturb me.

To the real issue at hand , and what we spoke about at length was children.
I want kids, and being with this beautiful transgendered woman, who had enlightening convo, was funny, was everything I basically wanted. HOW THE FUCK WAS SHE GONNA BEAR MY OFFSPRING? Now i know there is adoption and surogate moms etc, but I'm talking my genes and her genes producing OUR child, nah mean. Not my shit and a surogate mothers shit, mine and hers.

That shit was always at the back of my mind. that was a very big hurdle and still is. We broke up over unrelated issues about a year ago and she moved away, she escorts off and on. Funy thing is I always seemed to see this as a regular relationship, she really was the best thing I had, and i fucked up royally, simply put, being a man. That leads into the whole monogamy topic which i can go on for days about, just not today.
I haven't been with any other women like her since, and i think about her daily even though we havn't spoken to each other etc in more than a yr.

i 'm fucking rambling, back to the topic at hand.

I can be in a relationship with a TS BUT the whole offspring issue is stuck in my head and the virtual immposibilty of the situation. hence shit is like a pipe dream with me. I would call myself an admirer and not a chaser.

[BKghost]

bump

[TomSelis]

Damn...it sounds like you took a page out of my life and wrote it on here. I'm starting to wonder if it's the same girl.

Don't feel bad if you don't get much of a reply.

I always ask questions about the girls views because this seems like a common thing and I can't quite understand it. Not really trying to speak for the girls here, just from what I've seen and experienced. They want a straight guy, the guy's with them, suddenly they feel like he's not straight anymore. It starts to create a rift when a girl says things like that.

I've even asked the "children issue" in another thread.

Damn, it's eerie.

[DatNigga4Real]

Is it just me or did everyone just totally forget what the topic of this thread was? Oh and yeah, BADAZZBODY got sum BADAZZ friends.

[Baron Of Hell]

Wasn't it about who had the biggest lightsaber in Star Wars?

[Reddman]

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=1160&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[BKghost]

I have brought the "kids" topic up in other threads and evrytime I never seem to get a response from the resident Tgirls on the issue.

We keepin it real in this thread so I brought some real issues to the table that affect whether or not I want a TS simply as a fuck buddy or for a relationship, and suddenly the thread ends. Where you at Badazz and Jade???????

Gimme your opinions on this shit

[BKghost]

bump

[Lafuerza]

If I was single, I'd opt for the ts girlfriend. To fuck as many as possible would be nice too, but I prefer to know the girls I sleep with a little bit better than just her first name.

[Tadmirer]

BKghost wrote -

"she really was the best thing I had, and i fucked up royally, simply put, being a man. "

First....I get your pain. Losing someone, and later realizing that, maybe it was your fault, is a tough burden to carry.

Now, maybe this will seem like I'm under-estimating the complexity of the issue, but............
......how would you have handled the situation had you fallen in love with a GG, but for whatever reason she was unable to have children ??

Do you think it would be the same...or different.

You seem to really miss this girl - not just having sex with her - but the true many-faceted relationship.

Everybody feels differently about having children - some people want it deeply like you, and others seem to have them because it's expected.

Would it be so bad to give your love and attention to a child who wasn't biologically "yours" ?? Couldn't you be just as proud and fullfilled,
knowing that you were with a girl you loved and raising a child or children together?

You would still be a family....the hell with genetics.

[BlackAdder]

None of the Tgirls ive met will give up trickin on the side...so the question is kinda academic to me.....Id infinently prefer a relationship to just fucking...Very hard to meet a good looking transsexual who hasnt tricked on the side though...

[Dkg]

I think what's most important is that, with any relationship, it can never be just about the sex. After busting your nut (both of you) :P the guy has to still "be there" mentally and no longer driven by just his need to release himself. Also, unfortunately for some guys, they can't handle that their "girlfriend" isn't exactly bring home to mom material (No Offense AT ALL) due to this type of society we live in.

Now, for me. I would eventually be in it just for the sex, but like with any girl, if we really click mentally/physicall/and sexually then I could totally see myself dating (or even marrying) a transsexual woman.

[ezed]

I think what's most important is that, with any relationship, it can never be just about the sex. After busting your nut (both of you) :P the guy has to still "be there" mentally and no longer driven by just his need to release himself. Also, unfortunately for some guys, they can't handle that their "girlfriend" isn't exactly bring home to mom material (No Offense AT ALL) due to this type of society we live in.

Now, for me. I would eventually be in it just for the sex, but like with any girl, if we really click mentally/physicall/and sexually then I could totally see myself dating (or even marrying) a transsexual woman.

I couldn't Have said it better Dkg. I agree

[BKghost]

I gotta run to work, but I will be back. I like where this is heading

[BKghost]

I dunno, maybe I'm being selfish or something, But adopting is fine, but I am just hung up about continuing my legacy. You know what I mean, a son, a daughter, doesn;t matter. Just something of my loins.
and I came to the conclusion during that realtionship that it was not gonna happen. And I do think it would be different if I was with GG who was not able to have children, I can't explain it, I just think it would be different.
Subconsciously, i beleive that is why I did what I did to fuck the realtionship up, cuz I knew it only had so far to go until it meet that red light of "no kids". I would feel awkward explaining to my mom why I couldn't make her a grandmother, lying during the process saying my gf was barren, when in fact she simply was not born with the right "equipment".

And with respect to the "giving up the tricking". She said she had given it up for me, but I dunno, it retrospect i don't know if she was being 100% with me on that issue. it seems like that shit was so ingrained in her from 17,18 yrs of age that it would be damn near impossible to give that shit up. it's the "male" in T girls I believe, the roving eye,the raging testosterone. Just my humble opinion.

WHERE ARE THE GIRLS ON THIS TOPIC???????

[kingjohnson008]

I had a tgirlfireind before, and I will never do it again. It as definitely a wild experience,and I know I cannot generalize, and say if I try to make another tgirl my girlfriend then things will be exactly the same, but this girl fucked me over. I had no problem with her being around her friends who were hookers, becasue I trusted she was not into that. However she wanted a sugar daddy onthe side. She worked, and was taking some calsses so she would have been cool gf material. But I kept catching her talking to theese older dudes with fancy cars, and all the shit I did not have. It would have been one thing if we were just fucking or had never agreed that we would be ina monogamous relationship, but that was not the case. So now I just fuck 'em, and get head. It makes things a lot easier to deal with.

[BKghost]

Any comments Ms Badazz or Ms Jade??

[magic6inch]

i wanna suck dick...i've never done it

[calitxthug]

Initially

[BADAZZBODY]

i was in a relationship for close to five years recently..we started out as friends...talking all the time..Just being really true friends but deep down inside we really had fellings for each other..he was in a relationship wit a bisexual female..and i was in a relationship wit a butch..he was out their doing the hustle thing and i was a escort..but for some reason i knew in my heart that we was gonna be together..i dont know how but i knew..

But by me being in a relationship and he was too. crossing the lines in a sexual way was not the right way to do it...cause i wasnt gonna give myself to someone while i was dealing wit someone else..plus he was straight and he was kinda nervous, intimidated and also worried about his sexuality and what people might think..then eventually both of our relationships went sour..and thats when we started to really get close..and it took like 1 year of being friends and for our relationships to end for the sex part to come into effect..and i think that was maybe more of my doing..cause i dont believe in cheating or giving my fellings to someone when i am in a relationship..

He went through some shit and we was separated for good amount of time but still remain..cool...its like i always new we was gonna be and important part of each other life..but it seem like something was always keeping us apart...and it always had me questioning is it meant for us to really be together or not..cause its always and obstical cause once things get good something gets in the way..something either happens to him or he do something i dont like..its crazy how something so good can be so bad sometimes..

But in all being wit him wasnt noffin i regreted it was a true learning experience..And learned the true meaning of loving someone..as to not having ever really loved someone at all..its crazy now that we broke up again..and i dont wanna be with him..and part of me still wants to be with him..but i just dont have no more energy for the up and downs..the make up and break ups..thats really my fear..so in all ill rather be free of it all but i am scared that my heart just wont let go..

but hey this is the beginning of the end of it so i guess thats a natural felling...its crazy how u see the potential in someone to be the perfect soul mate..but..u cant change no one people have to want to change and be willing to comprimise..

he sacrifices alot for me cause he put his manhood and his sexuality out their and i put my escorting and dealing wit men..on a total sexual way..

but being as though he came into my life while i was doing what i was doing and he had no problem with what i was doing cause he had mad trust in me..cause he know i was clean and i wasnt having sex wit my clients..and nor was i having unprotected sex wit him..cause i dont believe in unprotected sex because i cant have kids so its not no purpose for all that..

but it was me wit the trust issues wit him..and i have come to realize that now is not the time for me in him..but if i totally get over him completely hopefully it comes soon its no turning back..but hey thats a lil but of what i fell and my current life story..

[Man Fuck It]

i was in a relationship for close to five years recently..we started out as friends...talking all the time..Just being really true friends but deep down inside we really had fellings for each other..he was in a relationship wit a bisexual female..and i was in a relationship wit a butch..he was out their doing the hustle thing and i was a escort..but for some reason i knew in my heart that we was gonna be together..i dont know how but i knew..

But by me being in a relationship and he was too. crossing the lines in a sexual way was not the right way to do it...cause i wasnt gonna give myself to someone while i was dealing wit someone else..plus he was straight and he was kinda nervous, intimidated and also worried about his sexuality and what people might think..then eventually both of our relationships went sour..and thats when we started to really get close..and it took like 1 year of being friends and for our relationships to end for the sex part to come into effect..and i think that was maybe more of my doing..cause i dont believe in cheating or giving my fellings to someone when i am in a relationship..

He went through some shit and we was separated for good amount of time but still remain..cool...its like i always new we was gonna be and important part of each other life..but it seem like something was always keeping us apart...and it always had me questioning is it meant for us to really be together or not..cause its always and obstical cause once things get good something gets in the way..something either happens to him or he do something i dont like..its crazy how something so good can be so bad sometimes..

But in all being wit him wasnt noffin i regreted it was a true learning experience..And learned the true meaning of loving someone..as to not having ever really loved someone at all..its crazy now that we broke up again..and i dont wanna be with him..and part of me still wants to be with him..but i just dont have no more energy for the up and downs..the make up and break ups..thats really my fear..so in all ill rather be free of it all but i am scared that my heart just wont let go..

but hey this is the beginning of the end of it so i guess thats a natural felling...its crazy how u see the potential in someone to be the perfect soul mate..but..u cant change no one people have to want to change and be willing to comprimise..

he sacrifices alot for me cause he put his manhood and his sexuality out their and i put my escorting and dealing wit men..on a total sexual way..

but being as though he came into my life while i was doing what i was doing and he had no problem with what i was doing cause he had mad trust in me..cause he know i was clean and i wasnt having sex wit my clients..and nor was i having unprotected sex wit him..cause i dont believe in unprotected sex because i cant have kids so its not no purpose for all that..

but it was me wit the trust issues wit him..and i have come to realize that now is not the time for me in him..but if i totally get over him completely hopefully it comes soon its no turning back..but hey thats a lil but of what i fell and my current life story..

Sometimes people confuse time with emotions. When we think we are emotionally attached to someone it is really an effect of the time we 'put in' with that someone building that relationship that we tread 'throwing away'. Indeed sometimes, it's not the person (physical) who is hard to let go but the memories (mental) that's the hard part to get over. Having been married at a very young age (20) to my high school love and not really knowing what to expect out of a relationship like that, for some time I had known that in fact there was no love really there because if it was I wouldn't really been doing what I had been doing. In fact, I was just scared to let her know that I thought it was over and that we were just holding on to a thing of the past. In theory it sounds easy to do...but the reality of hurting someone who's meant so much to you over the years, it's definately much harder. Eventually, the longer you delay the invetable the harder the fall will be. Old wounds heal with time.

[BADAZZBODY]

I have grown to realize that what with some people who u are dealing wit..some people cant let go..or comprimise certian ways about them..in the past i was the type of person that keep alot about me..and what i do..to my self..i was scared of what someone might think..what they might say..or how they would react to me afterwards..As i have grown and matured..i dont have time for all the keeping shit bottle up..yes some shit granted are not for others to know..

I am too open to direct..and i tell everyting thats on my mind rather i am being judged or not..cause u are gonna know everything about me..this is me and i think that in a relationship u need to be wit someone that u know when they come to u your gonna get a straight answer from them..and no secrets..so they wont fell funny..

they u got the type of people that dont wanna hear noffin that will fuck their head up..i done been wit someone that didnt want to hear things or see things or know things that might hurt..and thats how things were and i think for someone like that they are more compatable wit some of the same character..

cause i am the total opposite..i like to have a conection wit someone that i deal wit..just like i would wit one of my homegirls..where as we can talk about the same shit and be real..and the honesty that we get from each other keep us strong..but hey people are different and alot of time wit ya mates u might have to comprimise certain things..until bounderies are broken where as u can get to that point where all yall hang ups are out the window and now its about you and that person..

cause going into a relationship that person is a stranger..and u dont know all of them..And after a while u discover way about that person u dont like..and they do the same..cause yall are both strangers..the more u get to know each other the more u learn..then later u love..aint no relationship is ever gonna be picture perfect..even though perfection is maybe what we are look for..but the possibilities of it happen is a figmant of imagination..yall might dont be perfect no one is but u hey that person might be perfect to u but are u perfect for them..or are yall perfect for each other..

[drock]

From a girls point of view id think wed have a better chance with virgin or less tranny experoenced men as bfs.I mean allot of times the movie and chill means "blockbuster nite and sit and chat till u get horny".I mean lets be real we are not real women but im sure i can speak for evry girl that we love to be courted in the same manner.Some guys try to avoid any instance of spending money ona girl .If she finds u attractive in {almost}every way why would she treat u like a trick ?If u didint mention sex and just let it happen naturally nobody would be complaining.ive heard the"i dont wanna do anything just yet but im curious just to know how big you are".But girsl im sure if nothing happens u will se the frustration and anxiousness on his face and that is very uncomforatble (at least for me0.iv walked out on dates or told them to go homeor better tell them .."oh would u like to find out now ..cant wait huh?"thats when i charge em.Nobody likes to be USED if ur USING that bf crap to get free sex that my dear is using .

who's that cutie in the pic?

[strawberry]

I've been poking around the archives and wanted to do a necropost when I read this stuff:

know i am jumping in here on the back end of things but I have something to say that hasn't been brought up that PERSONALLY HAUNTS ME.
...
To the real issue at hand , and what we spoke about at length was children.
I want kids, and being with this beautiful transgendered woman, who had enlightening convo, was funny, was everything I basically wanted. HOW THE FUCK WAS SHE GONNA BEAR MY OFFSPRING? Now i know there is adoption and surogate moms etc, but I'm talking my genes and her genes producing OUR child, nah mean. Not my shit and a surogate mothers shit, mine and hers.

That shit was always at the back of my mind. that was a very big hurdle and still is. We broke up over unrelated issues about a year ago and she moved away, she escorts off and on. Funy thing is I always seemed to see this as a regular relationship, she really was the best thing I had, and i fucked up royally, simply put, being a man.
...
i 'm fucking rambling, back to the topic at hand.

I can be in a relationship with a TS BUT the whole offspring issue is stuck in my head and the virtual immposibilty of the situation. hence shit is like a pipe dream with me. I would call myself an admirer and not a chaser.
Now, maybe this will seem like I'm under-estimating the complexity of the issue, but... how would you have handled the situation had you fallen in love with a GG, but for whatever reason she was unable to have children? Do you think it would be the same...or different.
...
Would it be so bad to give your love and attention to a child who wasn't biologically "yours" ?? Couldn't you be just as proud and fullfilled,
knowing that you were with a girl you loved and raising a child or children together?
I dunno, maybe I'm being selfish or something, But adopting is fine, but I am just hung up about continuing my legacy. You know what I mean, a son, a daughter, doesn;t matter. Just something of my loins.
and I came to the conclusion during that realtionship that it was not gonna happen. And I do think it would be different if I was with GG who was not able to have children, I can't explain it, I just think it would be different.
Subconsciously, i beleive that is why I did what I did to fuck the realtionship up, cuz I knew it only had so far to go until it meet that red light of "no kids". I would feel awkward explaining to my mom why I couldn't make her a grandmother, lying during the process saying my gf was barren, when in fact she simply was not born with the right "equipment"
So, this is like an issue that splits a lot of the transwomen I know of into a bunch of different factions because it cuts to one of the bitter f**king cores of our tragedy - and responses to it are many, varied, and deeply woven into who we become over our lives... with lots of us totally rejecting it's importance because there are some of us who, if we let it be important to us in the wrong ways, we'd just cry and cry and cry and never stop. Like when I was four I didn't think I was going to grow up to be a "woman" I thought I would grow up to be a "mommy"...

I had two relationships fall apart this way (just after we got to the stage in our relationship where me and my guy's souls started getting tangled up and we started talking about kids and stuff). Each time it tore out a little piece of my soul. After the second time I added yet another requirement for bothering with a guy beyond a certain point: must love me more than he loves easy reproductive options. I didn't want to lose any more of my soul to guys who'd do that to me again.

It's even harder to talk about in like forums and stuff because there is sort of a solution but it pushes all kinds of crazy buttons. If a transgirl banks sperm before starting hormones (or has a sister who is willing to donate eggs, or various other variations) you get all kinds of "related by blood" options... but... like... you can see how head breaking they are. If she's got a sister there's a certain kind of hope (but wow are you imposing bigtime on the sister) and if banked sperm is the only thing available, like... are you ready to raise a baby made from your wife's sperm? It's a conceptual impossibility for most people and most guys can't handle that kind of "essence of male" challenge to their manhood from their girl.

I banked years ago mostly because it was a way to keep my parents support and make them happy. And my husband and I have gone back and forth on this issue (he wants kids from me, I want them from him) and the the only compromise we've come up with so far is to get a single egg donor, do surrogacy twice, and have the kids be related to each other through the donor and one to each of us. And then maybe two or four more (I want a huge family :-)) the same way. I've asked him to hold off on telling his parents about my history until we've got the details worked out and it's all for sure happening because I hate the idea of my mother in law's first thoughts when she hears about my deal be about me destroying her son's chances of giving her grandkids. I want the bad news to be the explanation for why the great news is so complicated.

We're basically down to budgeting and saving money for it. Screw buying a house. We want to make a family together.

Oh... and there's the slim slim slim outside possibility that they'll figure out how to get the biology working so that any two humans can do IVF/surrogacy together. They've managed to build "knockout mice" that lack the genes that make egg/egg reproduction impossible (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/04/22/MNGHD692EA1.DTL). And I've heard rumors that they can get XY stem cells to convert into viable eggs (http://www.europundit.com/archives/000064.html). Research is heading in the right direction...

I doubt it will be ready in time for me and my husband, but if a guy was 18 and OK with no kids till his 30's I could see it working good enough for human medical use by then. And then you wouldn't have to mess around with relatives or donors or anything, you could just have trivially mutually related kids. In the meantime my sweetie and I are crossing our fingers for it to happen way way faster than that so we don't need an egg donor.

Yay for science :-)

[peggygee]

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[mikejones]

Absolutely the girlfriend. Finding a girl who wants to just be with you and tell you all about what happened at school today, or what her cousin said to her today, or whatever. When you are at the club and dancing, and you notice that wonderful ass, and then relax and remember that she is going home with YOU. And finally you are together in the bed and she knows just what you like without asking, and it's there for you all night...heaven.

[joeboz]

At the moment, I'm not looking for a relationship or sex - everything I do is online because I'm not in a place for either.

Once my life straightens out, I'll probably be ready for a relationship - however when you're looking for a relationship, it always seems more difficult. Of course, I have to actually go to places where I can meet a tg to start a relationship...

[MrsKellyPierce]

I'm probably one of the girls you were complaining about -- with the blockbuster night. If a guy were suggest to me -- Lets order in and watch a movie that tells me he wants sex or he is just real boring with no romance in his brain at all. If he can't take me out and treat me like he should on the first date, then he doesn't even deserve a kiss on the cheek at the end of the night.

A lot of men have forgotten romance and chivarly, so I just try to avoid those guys. Cause if it's that boring on the first date..think how boring the rest of your relationship would be. I like a man thats creative on the first date, in charge of all the plans, and most of all someone that opens my doors, listens to me when we talk and has a good reply back, and someone with values that doesn't want to get down with you on the first date. I toss the ones that are like that in the trash no offense.

A lot of men call this high maintenance now due to chivarly getting thrown out the door! But there are still those few that are willing to try their best, and those are the ones that get my attention and time. I guess I am old-fashioned -- not high maintenance.

A first date shouldn't be spent on a couch, it should be something more active...other than SEX. And besides we aren't living in the 60's anymore.

[joeboz]

I'm probably one of the girls you were complaining about -- with the blockbuster night. If a guy were suggest to me -- Lets order in and watch a movie that tells me he wants sex. If he can't take me out and treat me like he should on the first date, then he doesn't even deserve a kiss on the cheek at the end of the night.

A lot of men have forgotten romance and chivarly, so I just try to avoid those guys. Cause if it's that boring on the first date..think how boring the rest of your relationship would be. I like a man thats creative on the first date, in charge of all the plans, and most of all someone that opens my doors, listens to me when we talk sand have a good reply back, and someone with values that doesn't want to get down with you on the first date. I toss the ones that are like that in the trash no offense.

A lot of men call this high maintenance now due to chivarly getting thrown out the door! But there are still those few that are willing to try their best, and those are the ones that get my attention and time. I guess I am old-fashioned -- not high maintenance.

A first date shouldn't be spent on a couch, it should be some active...other than SEX. And besides we aren't living in the 60's anymore.

I totally agree, a guy should show the girl that he's at least put some thought into the 1st date, as a guy gets older he generally should have somewhat of a good idea what works - i.e. he should have a "battle plan"

I have my own, depending on the time of year, taking a girl out for dinner and then ice skating in the winter is usually a good plan or something that will get the two of you talking, a walk along the waterfront (here in DC, we have that option) basically something that gets you out in the elements and not just having dinner or being quiet at a movie.

Of course you can always go with the standard, go out to a club get her drunk & try to get in her pants, but that's a bit transparent - at least when you put some thought into it, it isn't as obvious a ploy.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I'm probably one of the girls you were complaining about -- with the blockbuster night. If a guy were suggest to me -- Lets order in and watch a movie that tells me he wants sex. If he can't take me out and treat me like he should on the first date, then he doesn't even deserve a kiss on the cheek at the end of the night.

A lot of men have forgotten romance and chivarly, so I just try to avoid those guys. Cause if it's that boring on the first date..think how boring the rest of your relationship would be. I like a man thats creative on the first date, in charge of all the plans, and most of all someone that opens my doors, listens to me when we talk sand have a good reply back, and someone with values that doesn't want to get down with you on the first date. I toss the ones that are like that in the trash no offense.

A lot of men call this high maintenance now due to chivarly getting thrown out the door! But there are still those few that are willing to try their best, and those are the ones that get my attention and time. I guess I am old-fashioned -- not high maintenance.

A first date shouldn't be spent on a couch, it should be some active...other than SEX. And besides we aren't living in the 60's anymore.

I totally agree, a guy should show the girl that he's at least put some thought into the 1st date, as a guy gets older he generally should have somewhat of a good idea what works - i.e. he should have a "battle plan"

I have my own, depending on the time of year, taking a girl out for dinner and then ice skating in the winter is usually a good plan or something that will get the two of you talking, a walk along the waterfront (here in DC, we have that option) basically something that gets you out in the elements and not just having dinner or being quiet at a movie.

Of course you can always go with the standard, go out to a club get her drunk & try to get in her pants, but that's a bit transparent - at least when you put some thought into it, it isn't as obvious a ploy. Exactly I think movie dates on the first date shouldn't be done. Thats when you need to form some kind of bond, and really get to know one another. To know if you want to go on the second date.

I really like your ideas...now why can't you be in Louisville. Just j/k.

[wayz]

Most animals usually mate for life. The only species that have intercourse for pleasure are dolphins and humans. I guess that is why they consider a dolphin a smart species. :lol:

It is hard finding the "right person". Everyone wants to marry or have a long-term relationship with someone that has not been around the block. In my opinoin, it seems like the game of life: fuck as many people as you can and enjoy yourself, when you find the right one, settle down. If things go wrong in the relationship fuck someone else and move on.

As a nice guy, I do not know how many times I listened to the nice women continue to try to get back with their ex-boyfriends when all they do is complain about them. It took me a while to figure out that these women were just venting their frustrations since their boyfriend was not perfect or they want someone to listen to them for once :wink: . No one is perfect. Finding someone for a long term relationship is all about finding someone that is just as fucked up as you are (not pointed to anyone). Let's face it, most nice people do not want to get with nice people in fear they may hurt each other's feelings. That is just my 2 cents.

Allanah, if you are honest about writing a book about your life, I would definitely buy it. I would like to read about a TS's hardships and how you overcame the obstacles in your life to become a leader in the TS community. Plus I would not mind read about "TS admirers" like myself. :lol:



That was awesome. very true, no one wants nice girl..no one wants to hurt someone or see others cry. I hav seen these things happen 3-4 times...now no more nice girls......

[dabaldone]

I was in a 3.5 year relation ship with a trans-woman who had some serious self esteem issues. In fact, I hooked up with an ex (trans-woman) who I've known for more than 20 years. She still has the same issues of self.
Look, if you meet my family and friends, attend office functions, on my medical insurance and accompany me on business trips, don't you think I'm serious with you? It get's tiring, being categorized and lumped into a category that I simply don't fit it. But, I won't give up!

[peggygee]

I was in a 3.5 year relation ship with a trans-woman who had some serious self esteem issues. In fact, I hooked up with an ex (trans-woman) who I've known for more than 20 years. She still has the same issues of self.
Look, if you meet my family and friends, attend office functions, on my medical insurance and accompany me on business trips, don't you think I'm serious with you? It get's tiring, being categorized and lumped into a category that I simply don't fit it. But, I won't give up!

Wow, it sounded like y'all were

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Very nice. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/thumbsup.gif

[Azanti]

Wow, this thread spewed fourth a barrage of responses.

I haven't paid for sex with any T-Girls. I have only met one I wanted a relationship with, but then she was the only one I really had a chance to get to know well.

I would totally be up for a relationship with somebody, the problem is meeting the right person. In the UK they're aren't that many people in the TG community. Further to that, I do have a perference for black or mixed girls and nope its not a racial thing, just kinda snuck up on me over the years. I have seen several in the USA that I have found extremely attractive, but I would need to have the time to come over and then find one who is prepared to take the time to get to know me (and of course that cuts both ways)

I am also at an age where I really am looking for something that is going to last for the rest of my life (I know prehaps we all are in an ideal world) so I am certainly not looking for meaningless sex, though a sexual connection would be important along with a mental one. This does not mean I would rush the sex, ideally it would all just develop at the right mutual pace.

But then regardless of the sexual preference, if your gay, straight or TG, I don't think finding the ideal partner is ever easy - plenty of my friends have suceeded but plenty of others have paved their pathways with divorces, sweat and tears. What's new.

[Fox]

I'm a relationship kind of cat, so yes, I'd love a real relationship with a transwoman.

[62des]

Yea sure flame me all you want but I'm one of the few who just wants sex with no strings attached. I don't want a relationship because that'll just complicate my life. Maybe if she was REALLY passable and very attractive and were nice enough to win me over, I would reconsider but I doubt that'll happen.

[Shinimou]

I like shemale porn but have never actually met a shemale, i know if anything i would want a relationship because i'm not much of a party animal more of the nerd category >.>

as for how thats the simplest part, it was a Hentai manga called Xylophone... or something around those lines where 2 of the female characters had penis's as well as vag's i found it excilerating and new, and it just kinda went from there.

basically what i would want is just a girlfriend, hang out, play video games, cuddle, have sex, have the occational night on the town, all round fun. but i don't know of any places in alberta (canada for those unfamiliar) aside from edmonton where trannies might be at. then again i am pretty shallow when it comes to transgenders so yeah >.> i dunno... voice and face are just essential to me>.> i guess that makes me a bit of a tool no?

:?

[junintoiro]

I currently date a beautiful black t-girl.
A very passable young lady. If you saw her on the street you wounldn't think twice about her gender. She is very lowkey just trying to live her life. Hold down a good 9 to 5 job. Not involved in the porn or tricking scene that SOME girls are into. I walk around comfortably with her in public. She's even met some of my friends...they have no clue.
I say dating a TS is the way to go. Running around all over the place gets tired after a while.

that's what I'm looking 4

[The One]

most definately a TS Girlfriend, someone to spend time with and have some fun too!

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I HAVE A TS WIFE AND I WOULDNT CHEAT ON HER OR TRADE HER FOR ANYONE..SHE IS VERY DEVOTED TO ME AS WELL...SHE IS A RARE FIND AND ALL MINE


Mega....You're my hero!!! I'm extremely jealous!!! :rock2

[whatislove]

BIG FAN of the way fuck is spelled here.

[lahabra1976]

Like most here I think in heart I would want a ts as a girlfriend...

But as a lot of things in life I think, what you want and what actually is are two different things. The truth is I have tired relationships with ts before but seems like something always get in the way. The reasons remain countless: half of them myself, half I probably can't control. 1 ts I was with ended up having HIV which scared the crap out of me, got tested twice, came back negative luckily (thank god for condoms). That was actually the last relationship I had with a ts. Another was awesome she was a hooker and did porn which was not a big deal, but guess it eventually left no time for dating, another there was a very long distance between us.

Eventually all this just makes a person quit and give in. Eventhrough I may want a TS girlfriend, sometimes being with gg is easier cause they are everywhere. If the circumstances of one don't fit you, there are many others that are easily accessible.

Again just sometimes what you want and what actually is are just 2 different things. You would find probably plenty of men here who want ts girlfriends, just for some reasons, things get in the way.

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

A relationship is about one thing and only one thing.

Love.

Love is the basis of any relationship, from that there is honesty and faithfullness.

I would have a relatonship with anyone that i loved, be it man/woman/ts.

A true relationship isnt about money, material goods, personal gain.

So if i thought there was a chance of 'love' then id have a relationship with a ts, only a fool would not take the opportunity to take the greatest thing that this world has to offer, greater than all the wealth or material goods on the planet.

There are many fools though in life though, its only at the end will they realise what mistakes they have made, by then it is sadly too late.

I think one of the biggest factors that ANY 'NORMAL' MAN has in having a serious relationship with a ts is that if it were to lead to marriage or a life long partnership, the concept of having a regular family changes. Most well mannered and educated men want to end up having their own family (if they are straight), man, woman and the children all living together in one house.

With a ts long term gf or wife, it brings a new factor into the equation, obviously they can not have children together, so they either adopt or have a surrogate mother.

Alternatively youll get the guys who are just obsessed with a cock and wont even like their ts gf if she goes post op, (which eventually she will probably want to). But that goes back to the word 'love' in the first place. A relationship is about love, if you love someone then you dont suddenly fall out of love if they become post op. Thats not true love, so the only thing that happens is the the ts will end up getting hurt in this scenario.

Most guys would never consider dating or having a serious relationship with a female prostitute/escort. So it must be very hard for a transexual escort to find a decent relationship despite plenty of men wanting to sleep with them. If you take into account that these men would never even consider dating a female prostitute and falling in love with her yet they are considering dating a ts prostitute, then there must obviously be a reason for that, ie. They arent after a love at all, they just want cock. Thats why these men will say 'i can offer you money' or some other crap. They dont realise (neither do the people they date) that a true relationship that is worthwhile and will last is not about money, material gain or anything else. Its about mutual feelings and love of one another.

Why do you think so many multi millionaires dont want relationships, because they know that its not worth it, they wont find true love from it because there are millions of goldiggers out there who just want them for their money. The same goes for a ts, millions of 'cockrobbers' out there who want them for their cock.

[lahabra1976]

A relationship is about one thing and only one thing.

Love.

Love is the basis of any relationship, from that there is honesty and faithfullness.


I think one of the biggest factors that ANY 'NORMAL' MAN has in having a serious relationship with a ts is that if it were to lead to marriage or a life long partnership, the concept of having a regular family changes. Most well mannered and educated men want to end up having their own family (if they are straight), man, woman and the children all living together in one house.


You totally hit it right, a relationship is about love, but when you use the word "marriage" well that is about more than love...its about children, family, your goals as partner...Again this is why what we want and what actually is aren't necessarily the same thing. Being in love with ts may not always fit the other lifelong goals of men. Ultimately, a sacrifice has to be made and realization on the mans part he has to change these goals sometimes, like maybe not having his own children, but adopting.

This is when perhaps some men simply can't take the next step and sometimes ultimately become "tranny chasers" and "tranny admirers". I am not sure if these men want to be labeled as that, its just they want to go to that next step, but something just stops that be it weakness, lack of faith...And some men like above are willing to change and adjust. And end up with ts to be life partners with.

A better question may not be if men want to have a ts girlfriend, but if they are willing to? Unfortunately the ones that willing to I think are far less than the ones that want too.

[mbf]

well, a chick who writes "fuk" is disqualified immediately anyways.....

[lahabra1976]

well, a chick who writes "fuk" is disqualified immediately anyways.....

lmao...cosign

[trish]

fuk! and i thought i had a chance!

[TsVanessa69]

I'm probably one of the girls you were complaining about -- with the blockbuster night. If a guy were suggest to me -- Lets order in and watch a movie that tells me he wants sex or he is just real boring with no romance in his brain at all. If he can't take me out and treat me like he should on the first date, then he doesn't even deserve a kiss on the cheek at the end of the night.

A lot of men have forgotten romance and chivarly, so I just try to avoid those guys. Cause if it's that boring on the first date..think how boring the rest of your relationship would be. I like a man thats creative on the first date, in charge of all the plans, and most of all someone that opens my doors, listens to me when we talk and has a good reply back, and someone with values that doesn't want to get down with you on the first date. I toss the ones that are like that in the trash no offense.

A lot of men call this high maintenance now due to chivarly getting thrown out the door! But there are still those few that are willing to try their best, and those are the ones that get my attention and time. I guess I am old-fashioned -- not high maintenance.

A first date shouldn't be spent on a couch, it should be something more active...other than SEX. And besides we aren't living in the 60's anymore.
I am the same way, yet can't find a guy who is that way, do they exsist in real life, or only online. I thought dating was fun, going places and movies, restuarants, parks, whatever fun stuff normal folks do. Sometimes I see men who think dating a ts is like tricking off without having to pay. SAD

[lahabra1976]

totally true

First dates imo, and for that matter, first few dates should be spent going out and not at home. I think staying home and taking in a movie is something to do once in while after someone is your girlfriend, but even thing shouldn't be done too often.

[whatislove]

well, a chick who writes "fuk" is disqualified immediately anyways.....

fuk you, man!