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post-op-girl
08-28-2008, 07:54 PM
Hi All

I am a young, educated and very passable post-op. I want to start escorting, and am considering going stealth with my trans history. I had great FFS and went to a top SRS surgeon.

I’m looking for advice or counsel, especially from providers who may have done this, have considered it, or know someone who does it.

What are some of the issues to consider? Is it possible to do this? Do you know women who do this? Does it work, or do they get outed? How can you keep from getting outed?

Can straight guys tell something is up with a post-op pussy? To me, the only giveaways are big hands and feet, and possibly some light scarring on my pussy. Will straight guys notice this? Can I have a believable cover story?

What do you think?

I know some men want to see post-ops and will encourage me to be out, but honestly I don’t think I want to be seen as a post-op. I never wanted to be a boy, and don’t want to be reminded of it all the time.

LibertyHarkness
08-28-2008, 08:07 PM
you have a pussy now, you look female you say... you bith details will have now been changed to female...

so the way i see it, you is a female .....why label with Post OP.....

Just go with female....as legally that is what you now are.

I have a post op mate that does hooking in london, she has not had a client say anything and uses female status.

My 2 pence

Libbs x

post-op-girl
08-28-2008, 08:23 PM
Liberty, don't waste you rtime. This guy is a troll, and not a very bright one. Here is his other post. http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=36943


Hello all !
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess this is not the best way to make friends on the board , but here goes. . . Is it just me or is the Club Kid thread Super Gay and extremely wrong? . What surprises me is how people can label themselves" strait" on this board and then post or comment on a pic of a half naked boy ! Now this is just my opinion so before anyone takes this personal , chill out. Now I'm guessing that looking at pre-op Ts pics can put a label on anybody " gay, strait , BI what ever". But when you are turned on by borderline pre-pubescent boys your are not only Gay but should be starring on "To catch a predator". That thread should be deleted and anyone who is into that should be hanging out with Gary Glitter! I understand that Ts women all start transitioning at a young age and were born a male, but looking at [color=black]boys in drag is just wrong!

What do u guys think ?

ChrisI understand you might be skeptical, but I assure you I am not a troll. I've gone through the whole transition. It ate up the last 4 years of my life. I've struggled with passing issues, faced healthcare discrimination, done trans rights activism...etc and am finally getting to a place in my life where I'm passing really well and happy with all my hard work.

Besides that other post you quote doesn't sound anything like my original post.

Shining Star
08-29-2008, 01:58 AM
Many, many post-op trannies work as "bio" GG's, with various degrees of success. Much will depend upon how "passable" you are as a "woman" and how good a vagina the SRS produced. Still, many men have huge reservations about putting their tackle inside a "wound", and won't have anything to do with a post-op trannie.

Being as that may, you must remember many men over a certain age have been with enough women (provided they are sexually active), to know what the real deal is vagina wise. If a man of average penis length can only fit 1/3 to 1/2 the way inside a woman, without hitting a "wall", he may suspect something is not normal. In a real GG, very long male members will reach a woman's cervix, which is not the same as hitting the back of a sealed canal, which is what a SRS vagina is for the most part. Differences in a vagina may cause a man to start examining other physical aspects of a girl he hadn't noticed before (hands, Adam's apple, voice, hips, facial features, etc..), and start to put two and two together.

Next consider that working as a GG escort, you probably not be able to pull the usual trannie prossie stunts, such as charging $400/hour for full service, then trying to kick a date out after 15 minutes of a rough hand job or bad blow job. ST8 men going to see a GG ho want "da pussy", and many intend to tap that ass for the full hour. You can give him a bj if you want, but don't try to make him release too soon so you can get him out the door, they won't stand for it. Indeed many dates may turn violent and or ask for their money back if you wont do what was promised.

With this in mind, consider that a post-op pussy is not the same as a GG's and you physically may not be able to take having relations several times per day, or whatever multiple times are required for you to make your weekly nut. If one or two dates are very well endowed and or "rough" in their actions, you may be out of commission for a few days, or forced to "work" when you are feeling pain or some such. There is also a greater risk of urinary tract infections and other things down there as unlike a natural vagina, post-op's are not self cleaning, nor have the natural advantages to resist mild bacteria and so forth.

Know several trannies who worked post op. One had to go into hospital (a NYC major hospital where staff treated her like a freak), because of a major infection caused by turning dates. Doctors told her that her new "equipment" was not designed for the physical activity she was putting it through (the trannies madam showed up at the hospital, not only telling the doctors what the girl was (a post-op trannie and a ho), but wanting to know when she would be able to return to work. In the end doctors said they would treat the infection, but the trannie would have to return to whomever did her SRS to sort the rest out.

Another trannie, a beautiful Asian girl went overseas against all advice to have the SRS. Afterwards some weeks her ad would be in the trannie section of Screw, other weeks it would be in the GG. Neither was much of a success. Her SRS was a horrible hatchet job, and the physical results looked, well "bad". She also had next to no depth. Bottom line is dates expecting to see a GG, soon discovered what she was and some got out of control. Poor girl ended up refunding more money than she took in, especially to avoid being outed in a scene, LE showing up and or physical violence.

Finally remember many men today are familiar with trannies, especially younger males. Many trannies think because they are passable and have the SRS, men will drop all objections to being with them, even in a commercial transaction. That is not always true, and can lead to some very dangerous situations, including physical violence and worse.

Because of various rating and review sites for hoes, if one date suspects or knows your deal, that information may very quickly spread. Which will leave you in a tight position. Post SRS you can't go back to having a penis, and if you don't have any other means of earning a living, you will be forced to work harder, and perhaps for less money per date than you expected.

There does not seem to be a huge market for post-op trannies hoes per se, men who want a trannie almost always want one with the piece, and this seems to follow into personal relationships as well.

Hopefully you are not basing your SRS on being able to "work" post-op. If you are "working" now, I'd make sure to have a decent cushion of funds for after the operation to cover living expenses for several months. This way you won't have to work until your body has healed, and even better can afford to pick and choose whom you see.

Best of luck

Paladin
08-29-2008, 02:17 AM
Why don't you just get a real fuckin job???

Shining Star
08-29-2008, 02:23 AM
Sadly, even post-op trannies with papers that say "female" have a hard time finding real employment. Much is going to depend upon how "passable" the girl is and her social skills along with education. State and or local laws banning discrimination do help as well.

Know post-op nurses, attorneys, airline hostesses, paralegals and the lot, but again holding down
a 9-5 is not everyone's thing.

peggygee
08-29-2008, 03:11 AM
To the question of:




Can a Post-op Work as Bio-Woman?



From one post op woman to another, I would have to say "it depends".

If you're going to attempt to work as an escort, then your overall
passability is key, it's very important that there be no 'tells' that give
away your 'T'.

Also to state the obvious, it is crucial that your vagina passes. And it
needs to pass both aesthetically and functionally.

This can be accomplished by going to a competent and experienced
surgeon. Making sure that you have adequate depth, either because as
a pre op you were sufficiently endowed, or because you have opted for
the sigmoid colon technique of GRS.

With the sigmoid colon technique your surgical results will be 8 9 inches,
I would say more that's more than adequate for the largest lover.

Additionally the sigmoid colon technique will allow the vagina to be self
lubricating, though women who have utilized the penile inversion
technique are capable of lubricating as well.

To answer your question, "will your pussy get clocked"?

Again it depends. I have been post op over twelve years and have had
no complaints, and have been fairly sexually active, though by no means
to the degree that you are contemplating.

However in all honesty, I don't feel that the Hungangels forum will give
you the answer that you seek. For that you may be better served by
asking other women who have had GRS, and they may be found on
predominantly non-porn sites frequented by other transwomen.

Quiet Reflections
08-29-2008, 10:08 PM
With all respect to the ladies here. thats a silly question because in most cases if something is calling for a biological woman then thay want a woman that was born with a Vagina and post op can never be bio sorry to say. you can be just as feminine as a gg but you can never change you DNA.

fordly66
08-29-2008, 11:47 PM
Dear Post-op-girl, I don't know what you look like so it is harder to answer your question. If you say you are very passable, then I'll take your word. A woman such as you could be passable but that doesn't mean attractive. The more attractive you are, I would assume the more you could charge, the less trix you would have to do. Please be careful, it's a cruel world. Personally if I was ever to pay for an escort, I would actually prefer a post-op. Also advertise in upper class mags and escort services, try to get the weathier clients, maybe you would even find a weathy boyfriend. Hey, you never know.

SarahG
08-30-2008, 07:00 PM
Sadly, even post-op trannies with papers that say "female" have a hard time finding real employment. Much is going to depend upon how "passable" the girl is and her social skills along with education. State and or local laws banning discrimination do help as well.

Know post-op nurses, attorneys, airline hostesses, paralegals and the lot, but again holding down
a 9-5 is not everyone's thing.

If she's not passable enough to get & stay in an office 9to5 without flak, is she going to be passable enough to do sex work in stealth? I would definitely think not...

southerncalisurfer
08-30-2008, 09:56 PM
Just be careful, I have encountered one post op pussy and it was like making love to my truck seat

tsntx
08-31-2008, 07:46 AM
so you wanna put urself in harms way? well nice knowing ya!

tghtpussybitch
08-31-2008, 08:00 AM
IF YOU GET A PUSSY IS TO BE A FEMALE NOT GENETIC BUT A FEMALE . n THOSE GAY COCK SUCKING CUM SWALLOW TRANNY CHASERS PARASITES sweetie dont even pay no mind let them call u a tranny or talk shit bout ur pussy theydo not know never will understand they are plain LOSERS NASTY FUDGE PACKERS CUM SWALLOW TRANNY CHASERS PARASITES

AS to your story your such an idiot I work as a female in the gentic section and never had to go to the hospital. I been female now going to 8 years the most u will get are urinary track infections .

Up to clients the most I done have been 10 in one day and i never had a guy tell me he feels wall. Just lubricate I HAVE GUYS EAT MY PUSSY N I dont get any problems.

I have maybe 4 straight guys in the past 7 years knew I was not genetic and they still treated me like a lady(Female) only 1 ask for money back but no physical violence , GENETIC FEMALES GET ROBBED BEAT KILLED THAT SO STUFF THAT HAPPENDS WHEN UR A HOOKER. SCREEN WHO U SEE. PLENTY OF SHEMALE BEEN SHOT UP AND HOW MANY SHEMALES DONT GET KILLED CAUSED THEY ARE TRANNY .

In the same token I had tranny chasers out me and It did not matter.
One of those faggets had the nerves to ask me why i got the sex change and I replied because i did not like FAGGETS CUNNING NASTY CLOSED HOMOS VULTURES THAT DONT EVEN LOVE THEMSELVES .

IF THEY DID . THEY WOULD BE OPEN WITH THEMSELVES AND COME TO REALIZATION THEY ARE GAY AND STOP PRETENDING THEY ARE STRAIGHT.

THOSE NASTY tranny chasing gay cock sucking parasites will always try to break you down and used manipulation I'M SURE unconciously they will like to know what it feels to have dick fucking you day n night front n back.

CANT STAND U FUCKING HOMOS always talking shit about girls who got a pussy.

live your lives stop talking shit about something u know nothing about. when u get a pussy come and talk .
til them got get your enema stick it in your ass then drink the fugde water ur fucking fudge packers.


u guys cant expect to be respect when u show no respect to others.

AS TO THE YOUNG GUYS INTO TRANNIES.

Thats the new generation of FAGGETS IF A GUY READS U IS NOT U IT IS HIM WITH THE ISSUE IF HE WANTS A DICK THAT BAD GO GET A HORSE WHY HIDE UR INTENTIONS for UR DICK infactuation.

TRANNY CHASERS AND WHEN I TALK TRANNY CHASERS I AM TALKING ABOUT THOSE DEPRAVE NASTY DISGUISED FAGGETS THAT DISLIKE GIRLS WHO GET A PUSSY WITHOUT SEEING THAT SOME GIRLS GET A PRETTY PUSSY .

U TRY TO MANIPULATE Us by calling us a TRANNY BUT DONT WANT U CAUSED we got a pussy. BEST THING A GIRL CAN DO WHEN SHE GETS HER PUSSY STAY FAR AWAY FROM TRANNY SCENE GAY TRANNY CHASER PARASITES N U WILL BE FINE.

IF YOUR MAN IS A TRANNY CHASER DONT TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY HE IS A FAG IF U GOT A PUSSY IS FOR A MAN THAT IS 100% STRAIGHT.



REMEMBER MEN ARE ALL CYNICISM CARE ONLY FOR THEIR OWN MOTIVES AND GAY FAGGET TRANNY CHASERS ARE NOTHING BUT PARASITES WHO SOLE INTEREST IS A COCK.


sweethear worst come to worse if ur passable and gorgeous u can always strip u dont have to show ur pussy if you get a botched pussy.

IF CROSSDRESSER MAKE MONEY HOW CAN A BEAUTY NOT..

YES THERE ARE NO SMOKING MIRRORS FOR FEMALES . IF A MEN GOES TO A FEMALE IS TO FUCK HER IN HER PUSSY .

JUST LIKE IF A GUY GOES TO TRANNIES THEY SUCK UR COCK U JERCK THEM N THEY ARE HAPPY AFTER ALL THEY CAME TO YOU FOR UR DICK NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.


Many, many post-op trannies work as "bio" GG's, with various degrees of success. Much will depend upon how "passable" you are as a "woman" and how good a vagina the SRS produced. Still, many men have huge reservations about putting their tackle inside a "wound", and won't have anything to do with a post-op trannie.

Being as that may, you must remember many men over a certain age have been with enough women (provided they are sexually active), to know what the real deal is vagina wise. If a man of average penis length can only fit 1/3 to 1/2 the way inside a woman, without hitting a "wall", he may suspect something is not normal. In a real GG, very long male members will reach a woman's cervix, which is not the same as hitting the back of a sealed canal, which is what a SRS vagina is for the most part. Differences in a vagina may cause a man to start examining other physical aspects of a girl he hadn't noticed before (hands, Adam's apple, voice, hips, facial features, etc..), and start to put two and two together.

Next consider that working as a GG escort, you probably not be able to pull the usual trannie prossie stunts, such as charging $400/hour for full service, then trying to kick a date out after 15 minutes of a rough hand job or bad blow job. ST8 men going to see a GG ho want "da pussy", and many intend to tap that ass for the full hour. You can give him a bj if you want, but don't try to make him release too soon so you can get him out the door, they won't stand for it. Indeed many dates may turn violent and or ask for their money back if you wont do what was promised.

With this in mind, consider that a post-op pussy is not the same as a GG's and you physically may not be able to take having relations several times per day, or whatever multiple times are required for you to make your weekly nut. If one or two dates are very well endowed and or "rough" in their actions, you may be out of commission for a few days, or forced to "work" when you are feeling pain or some such. There is also a greater risk of urinary tract infections and other things down there as unlike a natural vagina, post-op's are not self cleaning, nor have the natural advantages to resist mild bacteria and so forth.

Know several trannies who worked post op. One had to go into hospital (a NYC major hospital where staff treated her like a freak), because of a major infection caused by turning dates. Doctors told her that her new "equipment" was not designed for the physical activity she was putting it through (the trannies madam showed up at the hospital, not only telling the doctors what the girl was (a post-op trannie and a ho), but wanting to know when she would be able to return to work. In the end doctors said they would treat the infection, but the trannie would have to return to whomever did her SRS to sort the rest out.

Another trannie, a beautiful Asian girl went overseas against all advice to have the SRS. Afterwards some weeks her ad would be in the trannie section of Screw, other weeks it would be in the GG. Neither was much of a success. Her SRS was a horrible hatchet job, and the physical results looked, well "bad". She also had next to no depth. Bottom line is dates expecting to see a GG, soon discovered what she was and some got out of control. Poor girl ended up refunding more money than she took in, especially to avoid being outed in a scene, LE showing up and or physical violence.

Finally remember many men today are familiar with trannies, especially younger males. Many trannies think because they are passable and have the SRS, men will drop all objections to being with them, even in a commercial transaction. That is not always true, and can lead to some very dangerous situations, including physical violence and worse.

Because of various rating and review sites for hoes, if one date suspects or knows your deal, that information may very quickly spread. Which will leave you in a tight position. Post SRS you can't go back to having a penis, and if you don't have any other means of earning a living, you will be forced to work harder, and perhaps for less money per date than you expected.

There does not seem to be a huge market for post-op trannies hoes per se, men who want a trannie almost always want one with the piece, and this seems to follow into personal relationships as well.

Hopefully you are not basing your SRS on being able to "work" post-op. If you are "working" now, I'd make sure to have a decent cushion of funds for after the operation to cover living expenses for several months. This way you won't have to work until your body has healed, and even better can afford to pick and choose whom you see.

Best of luck

tghtpussybitch
08-31-2008, 08:04 AM
biggest dick i took was 12 1/2 inches n no i couldnt take it all and the guy n cute brotha said to me not to worry most females cant take that his monster dick..

daddy was hot nice and a gentlemen .

tghtpussybitch
08-31-2008, 08:11 AM
Im sorry to disagree clients call to fuck ur pussy not to have a child pass their genes or dna. They just want to get release if your pussy looks good is wet they are happy you are a female u got a pussy. plain n simple.




With all respect to the ladies here. thats a silly question because in most cases if something is calling for a biological woman then thay want a woman that was born with a Vagina and post op can never be bio sorry to say. you can be just as feminine as a gg but you can never change you DNA.

tghtpussybitch
08-31-2008, 08:14 AM
This is your opinion for you are a tranny chasers guys who are into trannies most of the time will always find a something wrong with a pussyop.

The guys tell me I got a tightpussy hint the screename. so I go with the opinion of the guys I want to and those men are the straight men guys who only fuck females pussy lovers.



Just be careful, I have encountered one post op pussy and it was like making love to my truck seat

Quiet Reflections
08-31-2008, 08:53 AM
Im sorry to disagree clients call to fuck ur pussy not to have a child pass their genes or dna. They just want to get release if your pussy looks good is wet they are happy you are a female u got a pussy. plain n simple.




With all respect to the ladies here. thats a silly question because in most cases if something is calling for a biological woman then thay want a woman that was born with a Vagina and post op can never be bio sorry to say. you can be just as feminine as a gg but you can never change you DNA.
we can agree to disagree if you want but biological is biological. i dont pay for sex so i may have misunderstood the word "WORK" (sorry i think of a regular job when i hear or read that word) . but as i said no disrespect was meant. i am a scientist and dna can never be disregarded. all that aside if you bed a guy and then tell him ill bet he will be pissed certainly if the call was for a biolocical girl as the op stated

Quiet Reflections
08-31-2008, 09:06 AM
biggest dick i took was 12 1/2 inches n no i couldnt take it all and the guy n cute brotha said to me not to worry most females cant take that his monster dick..

daddy was hot nice and a gentlemen .
12 1/2? watch those poppers they can fuck you up!!!! please show me a fully hard 12 inches! ive never seen the real thing. call me sceptical but........its always a "Brotha" isn't it. im black so im not pullin the race card but even in porn the big ones never reach a solid foot

Shining Star
09-01-2008, 03:43 AM
May be an "idiot", but am a idiot that can spell and has a good grasp of English grammer.

Furthermore the girl did exisit and her hospital visit was not a "story". Am not going into details because it is none of anyone's business, but the story did make the rounds of the NYC trannie/escort scene as the madam is very well known in that circle.

Personally find it rather sad that the best anyone can do with their lives is "escort", much less go through all the pain and effort to become "female" (as you say), and end up right back where one started career wise.

Once again, guess that song by Ludacris is right on the mark.

Have fun,

SS

peggygee
09-01-2008, 04:19 AM
Being as that may, you must remember many men over a certain age have been with enough women (provided they are sexually active), to know what the real deal is vagina wise.

If a man of average penis length can only fit 1/3 to 1/2 the way inside a woman, without hitting a "wall", he may suspect something is not normal. In a real GG, very long male members will reach a woman's cervix, which is not the same as hitting the back of a sealed canal, which is what a SRS vagina is for the most part.

Differences in a vagina may cause a man to start examining other physical aspects of a girl he hadn't noticed before (hands, Adam's apple, voice, hips, facial features, etc..), and start to put two and two together.





Hiya SS, I was doing some thinking about this portion of your response,
and it got me to doing some number crunching.

The average penis length is 5.1 inches to 5.7 inches. (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=what+is+average+penis+length&aq=f&oq=)

The average post op vagina performed via the penile inversion technique
is 5 - 7 inches, and the average length of vaginas constructed via the
sigmoid colon technique is 8 - 9 inches as has been previously stated.

I would agree that a woman who was only able to accomodate 2.5 - 3.0
inches of a penis would indeed have a poor surgical outcome,and a
problem.

Fortunately for the vast majority of post op women this is not the case,
and we are able to engage in sexual activities with most men.

peggygee
09-01-2008, 04:37 AM
IF YOU GET A PUSSY IS TO BE A FEMALE NOT GENETIC BUT A FEMALE

The term transsexual by it's very definition means to transition from one
sex to another.

As I have stated previously I did not transition and ultimately have
GRS, to remain a transsexual.

I did so to be the woman that I was meant to be.

Chromosomally, as Quiet Reflections has pointed out I am not a
genetic female.

However legally, socially, and as anatomically as possible I am a
female.

Shining Star
09-01-2008, 05:22 AM
Yes, but:

Depth after the SRS, verus what is maintained by proper dilation is another matter. Not to be picky, but would like to know the average length of a SRS vagina several months post-op, then measured at various times afterwards.

Know from some GFs that had the operation, they had to work hard at keeping depth. One girl told me it was getting to the point all the bother was getting on her nerves. However being as that may if she went a day or so without dilating, she couldn't use the largest dilator and had to restart with either the medium sized or worse, smaller.

tsntx
09-01-2008, 05:31 AM
Yes, but:

Depth after the SRS, verus what is maintained by proper dilation is another matter. Not to be picky, but would like to know the average length of a SRS vagina several months post-op, then measured at various times afterwards.

Know from some GFs that had the operation, they had to work hard at keeping depth. One girl told me it was getting to the point all the bother was getting on her nerves. However being as that may if she went a day or so without dilating, she couldn't use the largest dilator and had to restart with either the medium sized or worse, smaller.

so in short... youre saying shes TIIIIIIIIIIGHT!?

:lol:

peggygee
09-01-2008, 06:53 AM
Yes, but:

Depth after the SRS, verus what is maintained by proper dilation is another matter. Not to be picky, but would like to know the average length of a SRS vagina several months post-op, then measured at various times afterwards.

Know from some GFs that had the operation, they had to work hard at keeping depth. One girl told me it was getting to the point all the bother was getting on her nerves. However being as that may if she went a day or so without dilating, she couldn't use the largest dilator and had to restart with either the medium sized or worse, smaller.

Great question.

If a post op isn't dilating regularly, or having sex regularly, which we
call 'organic dilating', the most that will happen is her vagina gets a little
tighter, she does not lose depth, unless we are speaking of a prolonged
period. Then there may be a risk of loss of depth and width, though this
can be gained back with some effort.

An exception to that is shortly after the surgery when the PC muscle
(pubococcygeal muscle) attempts to close the neo-vagina. In the weeks
following GRS a woman may need to dilate 1 - 3 times per day, months
and years later her schedule could be 1 - 2 times per week. If she has a
sexual partner she may forgo dilation all together.

It's usually the first few weeks post operatively that women may not
dilate properly, as it may be painful, yet that is the most important time
to dilate correctly.

Also once you're healed, masturbation with a dildo or vibrator can suffice
for dilation, and this makes it quite pleasurable, and not a chore.

The pubococcygeus muscle or PC muscle is a hammock-like muscle,
found in both sexes, that stretches from the pubic bone to the coccyx (tail
bone) forming the floor of the pelvic cavity.



http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/pubococcygeusmuscle.png


By the by, doing Kegel exercises with the pc muscle aids in sexual
functioning in the male and female.

Also as another illustration, I have 2 earring holes my ears, but rarely
wear 4 earrings, the holes haven't closed.

For folks that would like more info:

Zen and post operative maintenance (http://www.intelleng.com/zen.html)

Post-Operative Procedure, (http://www.femistent.com/pages/understanding-your-condition/vaginoplasty-srs-grs.html) and our friends at :google

Well gotta go, have to dilate.

No SO, so I will have to take the matter in my own hands. :shrug

tghtpussybitch
09-01-2008, 07:06 AM
FAGGET R READY FOR ROUND TWO,,

FIRST OF ALL IM AN ESCORT N IM WORKING ON A CAREER LIFE IS STUPID TO JUST SEE ONE ANGLE U NEED TO EXPERIENCE THEM ALL.

AS TO LUDACRIS i dont know which on your talking about cause i do not read minds i do see retard like yourself fabricating stupid stories where you were not an eye witness but heard through the grape vines and put your own fabrication.

as to my grammar this is not school but a website.

you stupid tranny trying to come for the pussy girls have no idea of what we go through but me been in your place many years ago know exactly your vindictive attitude like most trannies that cant take the girls who get a sex change because no matter what guys that go to you only want you for a cock so they do not see you as a woman but a cock hand hanger.

stop taking hormones as is useless since guys want you fully functional.
if you think your acting like a lady criticizing remember ladies have pussies you do not and as much as you can post op trannies you can get away with that hatred hateful comment here but remember in the real world is about having a pussy only in the fagget world is about a cock

stop taking hormones noones wants a limpy bugger hanging their useless like your self.


as to what you say about girls who get a pussy n continue in the escort service . why not whats the problem real females are escort so why not us. The difference with working under the female category is that we do not have to fuck guys in the ass that claim to be straight but are nothing but faggets and your tranny are the man top in them fucking them and giving them your sperm . thats the different sir sperm.



May be an "idiot", but am a idiot that can spell and has a good grasp of English grammer.

Furthermore the girl did exisit and her hospital visit was not a "story". Am not going into details because it is none of anyone's business, but the story did make the rounds of the NYC trannie/escort scene as the madam is very well known in that circle.

Personally find it rather sad that the best anyone can do with their lives is "escort", much less go through all the pain and effort to become "female" (as you say), and end up right back where one started career wise.

Once again, guess that song by Ludacris is right on the mark.

Have fun,

SS

saifan
09-01-2008, 07:15 AM
FAGGET R READY FOR ROUND TWO,,

FIRST OF ALL IM AN ESCORT N IM WORKING ON A CAREER LIFE IS STUPID TO JUST SEE ONE ANGLE U NEED TO EXPERIENCE THEM ALL.

AS TO LUDACRIS i dont know which on your talking about cause i do not read minds i do see retard like yourself fabricating stupid stories where you were not an eye witness but heard through the grape vines and put your own fabrication.

as to my grammar this is not school but a website.

you stupid tranny trying to come for the pussy girls have no idea of what we go through but me been in your place many years ago know exactly your vindictive attitude like most trannies that cant take the girls who get a sex change because no matter what guys that go to you only want you for a cock so they do not see you as a woman but a cock hand hanger.

stop taking hormones as is useless since guys want you fully functional.
if you think your acting like a lady criticizing remember ladies have pussies you do not and as much as you can post op trannies you can get away with that hatred hateful comment here but remember in the real world is about having a pussy only in the fagget world is about a cock

stop taking hormones noones wants a limpy bugger hanging their useless like your self.


as to what you say about girls who get a pussy n continue in the escort service . why not whats the problem real females are escort so why not us. The difference with working under the female category is that we do not have to fuck guys in the ass that claim to be straight but are nothing but faggets and your tranny are the man top in them fucking them and giving them your sperm . thats the different sir sperm.



May be an "idiot", but am a idiot that can spell and has a good grasp of English grammer.

Furthermore the girl did exisit and her hospital visit was not a "story". Am not going into details because it is none of anyone's business, but the story did make the rounds of the NYC trannie/escort scene as the madam is very well known in that circle.

Personally find it rather sad that the best anyone can do with their lives is "escort", much less go through all the pain and effort to become "female" (as you say), and end up right back where one started career wise.

Once again, guess that song by Ludacris is right on the mark.

Have fun,

SS

I love tightpussybitch. Girl you're working? PM me details. We need to meet.

Teydyn
09-01-2008, 09:51 AM
because no matter what guys that go to you only want you for a cock so they do not see you as a woman but a cock hand hanger.
If man go to a transexual prostitute for cock, then they go to a female prostitute for pussy.

Not for the woman as you seem to claim they do...

peggygee
09-01-2008, 05:44 PM
because no matter what guys that go to you only want you for a cock so they do not see you as a woman but a cock hand hanger.
If man go to a transexual prostitute for cock, then they go to a female prostitute for pussy.

Not for the woman as you seem to claim they do...


Post-op-girl, and tightpussybitch are both working stealth, they are not
advertising themselves as post op females.

Many post op women do not reveal their post op status, because for all
intents and purposes they are female.

Verstehen Sie was, ich meine?

Shining Star
09-01-2008, 09:17 PM
FAGGET R READY FOR ROUND TWO,,

FIRST OF ALL IM AN ESCORT N IM WORKING ON A CAREER LIFE IS STUPID TO JUST SEE ONE ANGLE U NEED TO EXPERIENCE THEM ALL.

AS TO LUDACRIS i dont know which on your talking about cause i do not read minds i do see retard like yourself fabricating stupid stories where you were not an eye witness but heard through the grape vines and put your own fabrication.

as to my grammar this is not school but a website.

you stupid tranny trying to come for the pussy girls have no idea of what we go through but me been in your place many years ago know exactly your vindictive attitude like most trannies that cant take the girls who get a sex change because no matter what guys that go to you only want you for a cock so they do not see you as a woman but a cock hand hanger.

stop taking hormones as is useless since guys want you fully functional.
if you think your acting like a lady criticizing remember ladies have pussies you do not and as much as you can post op trannies you can get away with that hatred hateful comment here but remember in the real world is about having a pussy only in the fagget world is about a cock

stop taking hormones noones wants a limpy bugger hanging their useless like your self.


as to what you say about girls who get a pussy n continue in the escort service . why not whats the problem real females are escort so why not us. The difference with working under the female category is that we do not have to fuck guys in the ass that claim to be straight but are nothing but faggets and your tranny are the man top in them fucking them and giving them your sperm . thats the different sir sperm.




You are what you are, and taking money from men for sex is not "escorting" Try telling a judge you are an "escort" when you are brought up on charges of prostitution and see how far you get.

Once, again, not going to argue the point further, "story" was true and could disclose names and even the hospital (where I spoke to the girl in question), but it's none of your or anyone else's business.

Every trannie prossie since the year dot is working towards (fill in your favourite reason here), a __________. Strange thing is you seem many of them years later still turning dates, and still working on that career, going to school, etc, with no visible movement towards that goal. One supposes this is what is called life on the instalment plan.

As for "coming for the pussy girls", oh PLEASE! That is so 1980's! For some reason there is this theory from post-op girls that those of us who did not or will not have the SRS are some how crying into our pillows at night and shrinking back at the approach of the mighty "trans-woman", get over it! Before I undergo major surgery and alter my body permanently, you're going to have to give me better reasons than to compete with the likes of someone like you. So many men pay you sums, or even vast sums for intimate encounters, I'm supposed to be jealous of that? No, muchachita. Esto no puede ser, y no sera.

One supposes one is not as gorgeous as yourself, but am considered pretty enough, and besides my livelihood does not depend upon physical charms, as it were. So you have female body parts. What of it? So does (statistically), half the population of New York City, and can assure you am not wallowing in envy of many of them either.

If the biggest achievement you have to date is moving yourself from being a trannie prossie to a "female" one, shall have to have more, much more before one is even interested in your life, much less jealous of it.

So long,

SS

tghtpussybitch
09-01-2008, 11:49 PM
well woman have pussy ,,

men have cocks,,

and transexuals have a cock so guys that go for tranny cock hangers if for a cock and sperm.

u point been .




because no matter what guys that go to you only want you for a cock so they do not see you as a woman but a cock hand hanger.
If man go to a transexual prostitute for cock, then they go to a female prostitute for pussy.

Not for the woman as you seem to claim they do...

tghtpussybitch
09-02-2008, 12:55 AM
sweetheart prostitution is a misdemanor and 90% of the times always get drop to a lesser crime meaning something like harassment etc which goes of your record . I would love to evaluated more but my tricks r for me to know not to show u limp bugger hangers how to work the system .


I have worked independetly and in house with other girls ,, both femmes and trannies and i seen it all.

as to working on my career i can show my scholarship my grades and my credits so saying it and having proof is too different things. I am a female so do not try to put me in your fagget tranny category mamita lo no trates loca. if i was a tranny your tranny chaser tricks will be after me but the simple fact those vultures dont want me shows im not in your category just like your not in mines.

As to getting out of the business i do not see anything wrong with been a prostitute it is the oldest profession and in my opinion it should be decriminalized like it already is in many countries across Europe.


What adults do in private should not be illegal for it is your body but then again we can thank hypocrites like conservative and most of the tricks since they are not the ones getting arrested but that's another story.

I would rather fuck for money ,, since money buys food, shelter etc

NOw THE THEORY IS THAT IF UR CLAIM IS THAT YOUR A FEMALE TRAP IN A MANS BODY THE LOGICAL THING IS TO GET A PUSSY . plain n simple. were going by medical terms and by the law.

for under the law you are a female.

tell it to me when you trannies get treated like men cause u have a dick hanging between your legs. Even your admires treat you all like a cultivated sperm colony .

proof of this hypothesis can be seen when you claim to be with a straight men and turns to be nothing but smoking mirrors .

when he is bending over for u to fuck him or sucking your dick like a vacuum cleaner expecting that sperm deposit in his tummy. If u do not please his sexual fantasies he will go to the next bitch .

A pussy is the ultimate female status and it requires a very strong mind that does not easy get corrupted or conforms.

It is sad that most girls fighting for transgender right are girls who got a pussy and are trying to be civil but little do they know the snakes in the garden full of hate that bite them and attack them at every chance they can get. yes bugger dick hanging tranny shemales.

Why do u tranny try to date guys and not tell them your trannies or put in your descriptions like I seen a few trannies on some websites like myspace. quote "I am a trannsexual female" .. please chika if u don't got a pussy your not a female point blank stop perpetrating. If a guy wanted a female he doesn't got with a walking sperm lady

Be jealous of hookers acourse not is sex nothing more nothing less . The point was of u trying to put a girl down n talking about something u do not know bout . If a question is about girls who have a pussy ,, then girls who have a pussy should respond. If you noticed i never care to jump into any conversation if is not about pussyops.

And yes I will always defend the pussy girls they are my sister and something never go out of style.
There are many circles 100% straight guys that want pussy stay in circles where their is pussy.
Guys who want dick stay in tranny gay circles but this fag r the worse since they jump to straight circles caused they still cant come to the realization they are gay cock sucking tranny chasers.

My life is not based on just physical i'm very smart and i have an extremely strong character for u have nothing to live or die for you r nothing .

u stayed in the middle just to be sexual sperm bank at the disposition of gay cock tranny chaser parasites that do nothing but juice your sperm chika.


life is an evolution i have not just move from one category but i have evolved mentally and i have many plans in the work. nothing happens over night. humans didn't evolved over night so why should we new females.

Everyone is entitled to live their lives to what makes them happy but you trannies and tranny chasers always try to break up down.
That simple act alone show some type of envy , jealousy , hatred whether you realized it or not it is unconscious deviance behavior

talk 2 u soon mamita






FAGGET R READY FOR ROUND TWO,,

FIRST OF ALL IM AN ESCORT N IM WORKING ON A CAREER LIFE IS STUPID TO JUST SEE ONE ANGLE U NEED TO EXPERIENCE THEM ALL.

AS TO LUDACRIS i dont know which on your talking about cause i do not read minds i do see retard like yourself fabricating stupid stories where you were not an eye witness but heard through the grape vines and put your own fabrication.

as to my grammar this is not school but a website.

you stupid tranny trying to come for the pussy girls have no idea of what we go through but me been in your place many years ago know exactly your vindictive attitude like most trannies that cant take the girls who get a sex change because no matter what guys that go to you only want you for a cock so they do not see you as a woman but a cock hand hanger.

stop taking hormones as is useless since guys want you fully functional.
if you think your acting like a lady criticizing remember ladies have pussies you do not and as much as you can post op trannies you can get away with that hatred hateful comment here but remember in the real world is about having a pussy only in the fagget world is about a cock

stop taking hormones noones wants a limpy bugger hanging their useless like your self.


as to what you say about girls who get a pussy n continue in the escort service . why not whats the problem real females are escort so why not us. The difference with working under the female category is that we do not have to fuck guys in the ass that claim to be straight but are nothing but faggets and your tranny are the man top in them fucking them and giving them your sperm . thats the different sir sperm.




You are what you are, and taking money from men for sex is not "escorting" Try telling a judge you are an "escort" when you are brought up on charges of prostitution and see how far you get.

Once, again, not going to argue the point further, "story" was true and could disclose names and even the hospital (where I spoke to the girl in question), but it's none of your or anyone else's business.

Every trannie prossie since the year dot is working towards (fill in your favourite reason here), a __________. Strange thing is you seem many of them years later still turning dates, and still working on that career, going to school, etc, with no visible movement towards that goal. One supposes this is what is called life on the instalment plan.

As for "coming for the pussy girls", oh PLEASE! That is so 1980's! For some reason there is this theory from post-op girls that those of us who did not or will not have the SRS are some how crying into our pillows at night and shrinking back at the approach of the mighty "trans-woman", get over it! Before I undergo major surgery and alter my body permanently, you're going to have to give me better reasons than to compete with the likes of someone like you. So many men pay you sums, or even vast sums for intimate encounters, I'm supposed to be jealous of that? No, muchachita. Esto no puede ser, y no sera.

One supposes one is not as gorgeous as yourself, but am considered pretty enough, and besides my livelihood does not depend upon physical charms, as it were. So you have female body parts. What of it? So does (statistically), half the population of New York City, and can assure you am not wallowing in envy of many of them either.

If the biggest achievement you have to date is moving yourself from being a trannie prossie to a "female" one, shall have to have more, much more before one is even interested in your life, much less jealous of it.

So long,

SS

SarahG
09-02-2008, 01:52 AM
because no matter what guys that go to you only want you for a cock so they do not see you as a woman but a cock hand hanger.
If man go to a transexual prostitute for cock, then they go to a female prostitute for pussy.

Not for the woman as you seem to claim they do...


Post-op-girl, and tightpussybitch are both working stealth, they are not
advertising themselves as post op females.

Many post op women do not reveal their post op status, because for all
intents and purposes they are female.

Verstehen Sie was, ich meine?

Wouldn't you think passability still comes into play?

I don't see stealth postop sex work as being impossible, but I do see it heavily requiring the girl to pass very well... whereas not all girls who get srs can pass, and not all girls who escort (preop or postop) can pass.

I do wonder what business would be like for an out postop escort. I am betting some people would be willing to try it "just to see what it is like."

Only thing that I would add to what you've said about depth is that I can see a girl in certain sex positions being able to hide depth problems by being in control of how far in the guy goes. As long as her depth isnt something extremely problematic, like an inch, I don't see it as an impossible thing to hide.

Also there are some GGs that get problems with being too "tight" for various reasons, I forget the medical condition but I know they make a dilation kit essentially the same as what postops use only for GGs who have that problem (which involves muscles not allowing the vagina to be "open enough" for sex).

lahabra1976
09-02-2008, 02:50 AM
Just be careful, I have encountered one post op pussy and it was like making love to my truck seat

BTW was this implying that post op pussy is awesome or not, I mean some people like truck seats ;)

peggygee
09-02-2008, 03:52 AM
because no matter what guys that go to you only want you for a cock so they do not see you as a woman but a cock hand hanger.
If man go to a transexual prostitute for cock, then they go to a female prostitute for pussy.

Not for the woman as you seem to claim they do...


Post-op-girl, and tightpussybitch are both working stealth, they are not
advertising themselves as post op females.

Many post op women do not reveal their post op status, because for all
intents and purposes they are female.

Verstehen Sie was, ich meine?

Wouldn't you think passability still comes into play?

I don't see stealth postop sex work as being impossible, but I do see it heavily requiring the girl to pass very well... whereas not all girls who get srs can pass, and not all girls who escort (preop or postop) can pass.

I do wonder what business would be like for an out postop escort. I am betting some people would be willing to try it "just to see what it is like."

Only thing that I would add to what you've said about depth is that I can see a girl in certain sex positions being able to hide depth problems by being in control of how far in the guy goes. As long as her depth isnt something extremely problematic, like an inch, I don't see it as an impossible thing to hide.

Also there are some GGs that get problems with being too "tight" for various reasons, I forget the medical condition but I know they make a dilation kit essentially the same as what postops use only for GGs who have that problem (which involves muscles not allowing the vagina to be "open enough" for sex).

Yup, if a woman is going to be stealth she needs to be believable in
appearance, voice, mannerisms, and affect. And just passing in a photo-
shopped picture on a web site isn't going to pass the muster.

Also as we discussed upthread, a woman will need to pass sexually. And
that would not only be in the appearance and functionality of her vagina,
but being able to conduct hesrself sexually as a woman her age.

But yeah there are positions where a woman is able to be more in control
of how much penis enters her. And from an escorting standpoint a woman
may truly want to be in a positions where she is less vulnerable in case
something goes wrong.




Also there are some GGs that get problems with being too "tight" for various reasons, I forget the medical condition but I know they make a dilation kit essentially the same as what postops use only for GGs who have that problem (which involves muscles not allowing the vagina to be "open enough" for sex).

The condition you are referring to is vagimus.

tghtpussybitch
09-11-2008, 08:59 AM
some people also like limp dicks and shit in their dicks or doin the shittin ;)




Just be careful, I have encountered one post op pussy and it was like making love to my truck seat

BTW was this implying that post op pussy is awesome or not, I mean some people like truck seats ;)