Can someone please explain to me why

[Tomfurbs]

trannies idolise Cher, Britney and Madonna?


Because I am at a loss. There are a multitude of female artists who exude a postive, independent, awesome display of real feminity. These jokers are a pale imitation. Why the love?


I know a fair few GG's who went through the whole 'OMG MADONNA IS SO IN TOUCH WITH HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE WORLD AND LIFE AND ALL THAT STUFF HEE HEE HEE', but now that it is 2008 and not 1993 they tend to look back on that time with a very well deserved amount of embarrassment.

Why can't trannies do the same?

(Disclaimer: This post is speaking in general terms. Any TS who thinks these clowns are a hilarious farce should not feel themselves implicated in any way in this post).

[Dinand]

trannies idolise Cher, Britney and Madonna?
Because they have bad taste?

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I am afraid I don't have an answer for you "T". All three of them are 'BUTT UGLY' to me.

[Tomfurbs]

Erm...thanks ''C''. I concur.

[Dinand]

Btw, I don't think tgirls like Madonna, Britney and Cher, I think only gay guys.

[Tomfurbs]

Btw, I don't think tgirls like Madonna, Britney and Cher, I think only gay guys.

You would be very, very wrong in that assumption.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Because aside from the fact that she may be a slut (slept her way to the top..literally) and a provocateur..here are a few facts why Madonna 'clicked' with the GLBT community world wide:

-Madonna isn't only pretty but also actually has a brain and had full scholarship at the University of Michigan.

-Madonna was one of the first major celebrities to lend her support to AIDS causes.

-The song "In This Life" from her fifth studio album, Erotica, is about the loss of Madonna's (gay) friends to AIDS, containing the line, "Have you ever watched your best friend die?"

-She has been a strong supporter of GLBT rights since she has a gay brother, Christopher Ciccone.

-One of Madonna's biggest hits, 1990's "Vogue", is a song in tribute to the underground dance form known as vogueing (have you guys seen Paris is Burning? Then you'll know) which first found popularity in gay bars and discos of New York City.

-She is the master of re-invention. People never grew tired of her because she always has different look/styles to offer them.

-She is ranked by the Recording Industry Association of America as the best-selling female rock artist of the twentieth century and the second top-selling female artist in the United States with 63 million certified albums.

-Guinness World Records list her as the world's most successful female recording artist of all time and the top-earning female singer in the world with an estimated net worth of over US$400 million, having sold over 200 million records worldwide.

-Her Confessions Tour (which I've attended btw @300 a pop) is the highest grossing concert tour by a female artist.

-In the United Kingdom, she is the most successful female in the singles chart history and has more number one singles than any other female solo artist.

-In 2008, she surpassed Elvis Presley as the artist with most top ten hits in the history of Billboard Hot 100.

-In 2007, Madonna was listed by VH1 as eighth in the Greatest Women of Rock & Roll.

-On March 10, 2008, she was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

-Madonna donated $21 million towards a new Kabbalah school for children.

-She has been around in the industry for approximately two decades.

And yes she is 50 and she looks good for her age..beauty and youth are fleeting, but we all do get old too you know?

I'm sure none of these matters to anyone who doesn't like her. It's easy to hate people who's worked their way up back from only having $35 bucks in her pocket when she first moved to New York. But you have to give her some credit for her works as an artist. ;) I mean, has anyone of you criticizing her able to accomplish even a 3rd of what she has accomplished?..Then I will personally and literally kiss your ass. Til then STFU!

And FYI Dinand:

Tsntx loves Britney, Julianna Dominguez loves Madonna and so forth and so on!


"princess of pop"

wtf?

shes the queen

who the hell would be queen if shes the princess?




She is the woman i look up to, I am a huge fan of her music and whatever she does, Madonna is a lifestyle, Madonna is an art, Madonna is the queen, Madonna is the best/greatest, Madonna is an icon, so take a bow.

I have been a fan since i was 3 years old, my mom would teach me how to dance La Isla Bonita, i remembered singing Crazy For You and Papa Don't Preach when i was 5 years old, Madonna contributed to what the gay culture has today, i'd say, she contributed with me personally on me being transgendered. Empowerment and Inspiration from her songs made me believe that i am strong.

can't wait for the sticky and sweet tour, who's coming?

And to the OP, I hope you're not lost anymore. Granted, I could respect you don't like her. That's fine. But is this thread completely necessary? As they say, different strokes for different folks. ;)

~Kisses.

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[Tomfurbs]

Because aside from the fact that she may be a slut (slept her way to the top..literally)


Good on her...so did Joan Crawford and a hell of a lot of others.



Madonna isn't only pretty but also actually has a brain and had full scholarship at the University of Michigan

She definitely has a brain. She shoulda been an Investment banker. She definitely is good at cashing in on things after the fact, like she did with 'Voguing' and 'S&M'



-She is ranked by the Recording Industry Association of America as the best-selling female rock artist of the twentieth century and the second top-selling female artist in the United States with 63 million certified albums..

Jesus, the number of female ARTISTS who eclipse her in both talent and ability are myriad.


-In the United Kingdom, she is the most successful female in the singles chart history and has more number one singles than any other female solo artist.

To our eternal shame.



-In 2008, she surpassed Elvis Presley as the artist with most top ten hits in the history of Billboard Hot 100.


WOW


-In 2007, Madonna was listed by VH1 as eighth in the Greatest Women of Rock & Roll

Which means VH1 knows sweet fuck-all about rock and roll.


-Madonna donated $21 million towards a new Kabbalah school for children.

You say that as if it is a good thing!


I'm sure none of these matters to anyone who doesn't like her. It's easy to hate people who's worked their way up back from only having $35 bucks in her pocket when she first moved to New York. But you have to give her some credit for her works as an artist. ;) I mean, has anyone of you criticising her able to accomplish even a 3rd of what she has accomplish then I will personally and literally kiss your ass. Til then STFU!
Erm... you cannot deny that Bessie Smith, Joni Mitchell, Billy Holliday, Janis Joplin, Judee Sill et fucking al had hard lives... a lot harder than moaning about only having $35 to spend (woe is the material girl)!
So, I ain't gona stfu

~Kisses.

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[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Jesus, the number of female ARTISTS who eclipse her in both talent and ability are myriad.

But these myriad of artists you mentioned aren't UP there, are they? :lol:




-In the United Kingdom, she is the most successful female in the singles chart history and has more number one singles than any other female solo artist.

To our eternal shame.

Unfortunately, The UK isn't comprised of Tomfurbs. lol



-Madonna donated $21 million towards a new Kabbalah school for children.

You say that as if it is a good thing!

If someone gave you $21 million dollars.you wouldn't say the same..That I am positive!



Erm... you cannot deny that Bessie Smith, Joni Mitchell, Billy Holliday, Janis Joplin, Judee Sill et fucking al had hard lives... a lot harder than moaning about only having $35 to spend (woe is the material girl)!
So, I ain't gona stfu



All those you've mentioned are also great artist. And 'big' during their time. They've influenced a lot of artist we have today. But they're more like classics now. Their music and works are still highly respected to this day. A lot of people in the GLBT community (and outside of it) actually liked them also. But they sorta fail short becoming " gay icons" (the subject matter we are discussing). It's sad really, that when a musician has passed on they become somewhat forgotten and irrelevant. And as for stfu..well I don't hear you accomplishing even a 3rd of what she's accomplished, so again STFU (quit moaning about it already)! lol

~Kisses.

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[Tomfurbs]

Erm... you cannot deny that Bessie Smith, Joni Mitchell, Billy Holliday, Janis Joplin, Judee Sill et fucking al had hard lives... a lot harder than moaning about only having $35 to spend (woe is the material girl)!
So, I ain't gona stfu



All those you've mentioned are also great artist. And 'big' during their time. They've influenced a lot of artist we have today. But they're more like classics now. Their music and works are still highly respected to this day. A lot of people in the GLBT community (and outside of it) actually liked them also. But they sorta fail short becoming " gay icons" (the subject matter we are discussing). It's sad really, that when a musician has passed on they become somewhat forgotten and irrelevant. And as for stfu..well I don't hear you accomplishing even a 3rd of what she's accomplished, so again STFU! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

What has she accomplished, again? Please explain to me how she has manipulated herself into becoming the number one Gay Icon above Oscar Wilde, William Burroughs, Alice Toklas, Allan Ginsberg, Gertude Stein, Francis Bacon, Tennessee Williams, Marlene Dietrich, Rock Hudson, David Bowie, Lou Reed, Klaus Nomi?

How has some dopey, half-way attractive/intelligent idiot from the midwest won her way into so many gay hearts? Is what I wanna know?

I still ain't stfu.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

It's hard to explain anything to someone who acts like they're 12. Like I said, the proof of her accomplishments are there in PRINT! I did not make them up. If you find that revolting, you can write the Guinness, Recording Industry Association of America, vh1 etc. I doubt they'll even read some anon guy's letter of contest!

Also, this isn't a pissing contest. You asked for a reason or reasonS..I gave them to you. You're not convinced..then that is YOUR problem not mines nor Madonna's or any award giving body for that matter. But the fact are there. Ignore it, doesn't mean anything to me either way. SHE ROCKS!

~Kisses.

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[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Why don't we ask a more important question? Like..

How did BUSH won the Presidency for example? What really happened in Florida? Why was that idiot elected twice?

Why is the American economy on a slow down? Why is gas expensive? Why is the unemployment rate high (highest since 1998)?

Aren't those more important? Oh right, you also don't care because you're not an American! lol My bad.. lol

~Kisses.

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[Tomfurbs]

Oh, I wasn't aware that liking good music relegated me to being the dreaded internet (12).

Guess I'd better start cranking up 'Like A Virgin' and start growing up.

Jesus, my only question is why have these three ladies become such GLBT icons, when they aren't even part of the fucking community!

[Tomfurbs]

Why don't we ask a more important question? Like..

How did BUSH won the Presidency for example? What really happened in Florida? Why was that idiot elected twice?

Why is the American economy on a slow down? Why is gas expensive? Why is the unemployment rate high (highest since 1998)?

Aren't those more important? Oh right, you also don't care because you're not an American! lol My bad.. lol

~Kisses.

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Yes..you are right..none of these questions interest me. Because if they did interest me, I would definitely post about them on a Transsesxual Porn Board! WTF?

EDIT:

I guess I treaded upon the dreaded TRANNY MADONNA NERVE. Oooops. :shrug


Editx2:

And we have no Madonna-loving transwomen in the UK, of course. :roll:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Well one, good music like beauty is subjective. Learn it! lol

Two, phenomenon is defined as:

a) a rare or significant fact or event

b) (plural) phenomenons : an exceptional, unusual, or abnormal person, thing, or occurrence.

The three women you've mentioned fall into this category..meaning their success was highly unusual and exceptional.

About the Madonna nerve. I happen to wake up early and can't go back to sleep. Wait 'til TSnTX wakes up and in a bad mood.. Be ready to be called a fag! lol

Oh HA does have a politics section!! ;)

Well o

~Kisses.

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[Tomfurbs]

Well one, good music like beauty is subjective. Learn it! lol

Two, phenomenon is defined as:

a) a rare or significant fact or event

b) (plural) phenomenons : an exceptional, unusual, or abnormal person, thing, or occurrence.

The three women you've mentioned fall into this category..meaning their success was highly unusual and exceptional.

About the Madonna nerve. I happen to wake up early and can;t go back to sleep. Wait 'til TSnTX wakes up.. Be ready to be called a fag! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

Thankyou!

That is why I started this thread. I wanna know how these idiots have managed to create such a following in this community. So far I have learned that Madonna is a GLBT icon because her brother died of aids and she nicked Voguing from the NYC Houses. And she sold a bunch of records. Which means she is an AWESOME MUSCICIAN YES! AND PORTRAYS AN IMAGE OF FEMININITY THAT ALL WOMEN CAN RELATE TOO! :roll:
Thankyou for your input Hara. ( Ps. This thread was lighthearted in nature, so, ease-up girly!)

And I have been called 'fag' many times by the sainted TSNTX, so I hope I will live.

[vietboy]

trannies idolise Cher, Britney and Madonna?

Because I am at a loss. There are a multitude of female artists who exude a postive, independent, awesome display of real feminity. These jokers are a pale imitation. Why the love?

Not all of them do.

It is effeminate gay men who typically idolise Cher and Madonna. In fact, a real transsexual is as likely to idolise them as any other woman.

Thus, the transsexuals you see idolising those glam queens are often transsexual in everything except the sexual, that is to say some of the "pre-ops for life" or "non-ops"... people who do not display the same kind of intense gender dysphoria as real transsexuals who despise(d) their own male genitalia. Some are arguably nothing more than gay men glammed up like the glam queens they idolise.

Not to denigrate the strategy these queens pursue. They know there are multitudes of "straight" men who will use the over-the-top make-up and Cher-style dress as license to pursue their own cock-fantasies without the gay guilt.

I think a big error is to assume that all trannies idolise freaks like Cher or Madonna. Far from it.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

OMG! Goes to show how much you read (understand?). lol Her brother, Christopher Ciccone is ALIVE! :lol:

~Kisses.

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[Dinand]

Tsntx loves Britney, Julianna Dominguez loves Madonna and so forth and so on!
No kidding? I guess we all have a different taste ;-)

[Tomfurbs]

OMG! Goes to show how much you read (understand?). lol Her brother, Christopher Ciccone is ALIVE! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Yes, you have uncovered my immense lack of knowledge about MADONNA (I was too busy listening to good music, but hey).

Please explain to me why she is so great again.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Isn't that an oxymoron?

First you say:




It is effeminate gay men who typically idolise Cher and Madonna.



In fact, a real transsexual is as likely to idolise them (Cher and Madonna) as any other woman.


Your statements are contradicting one another. :roll:

~Kisses.

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[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Tsntx loves Britney, Julianna Dominguez loves Madonna and so forth and so on!
No kidding? I guess we all have a different taste ;-)

Well, we all can't be clones of one another that's for sure..and share/have the same exact taste in everything..simply impossible! lol ;)

~Kisses.

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[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

OMG! Goes to show how much you read (understand?). lol Her brother, Christopher Ciccone is ALIVE! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Yes, you have uncovered my immense lack of knowledge about MADONNA (I was too busy listening to good music, but hey).

Please explain to me why she is so great again.

Very cute, ignorant and funny all together, Tom. lol

:roll:

~Kisses.

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[vietboy]

Isn't that an oxymoron?

First you say:




It is effeminate gay men who typically idolise Cher and Madonna.



In fact, a real transsexual is as likely to idolise them (Cher and Madonna) as any other woman.


Your statements are contradicting one another. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

No contradiction. Effeminate gay men typically idolise Cher and Madonna, whereas real transsexuals idolise them as much as any other woman idolises them, which is to say, not very much.

In the real world, spent performers like Cher and Madonna are not idols like they are for gay guys.

[Tomfurbs]

Tsntx loves Britney, Julianna Dominguez loves Madonna and so forth and so on!
No kidding? I guess we all have a different taste ;-)

Well, we all can't be clones of one another that's for sure..and share/have the same exact taste in everything..simply impossible! lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

And there are not many better ways to declare your individuality than screaching along to 'Everybody'.

[MrsKellyPierce]

trannies idolise Cher, Britney and Madonna?


Because I am at a loss. There are a multitude of female artists who exude a postive, independent, awesome display of real feminity. These jokers are a pale imitation. Why the love?


I know a fair few GG's who went through the whole 'OMG MADONNA IS SO IN TOUCH WITH HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE WORLD AND LIFE AND ALL THAT STUFF HEE HEE HEE', but now that it is 2008 and not 1993 they tend to look back on that time with a very well deserved amount of embarrassment.

Why can't trannies do the same?

(Disclaimer: This post is speaking in general terms. Any TS who thinks these clowns are a hilarious farce should not feel themselves implicated in any way in this post). umm I idolise Jessica Simpson :lol:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Isn't that an oxymoron?

First you say:




It is effeminate gay men who typically idolise Cher and Madonna.



In fact, a real transsexual is as likely to idolise them (Cher and Madonna) as any other woman.


Your statements are contradicting one another. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

No contradiction. Effeminate gay men typically idolise Cher and Madonna, whereas real transsexuals idolise them as much as any other woman, which, is to say, not very much.

In the real world, spent performers like Cher and Madonna are not idols like they are for gay guys.

That still doesn't ring any bell or logic reason. You've just repeated what you've said earlier.

You reiterated:

1. Effeminate gay men typically idolizes Cher and Madonna.

2. Real transexuals likewise (also?) idolize them (Cher and Madonna as much as any other woman.

...Therefore, Effeminate gay men and real transexuals (BOTH) IDOLIZES Cher and Madonna.

There is no difference between statement no.1 and statement no.2. Am I right or am I wrong here? lol

And out in the real world, Guinness book of world records, Recording Industry Association of America, vh1 etc. aren't predominantly comprised of Gay men and real transexuals, now are they? lol ;)

I failed to see the point you're driving at to be honest.

~Kisses.

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[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Tsntx loves Britney, Julianna Dominguez loves Madonna and so forth and so on!
No kidding? I guess we all have a different taste ;-)

Well, we all can't be clones of one another that's for sure..and share/have the same exact taste in everything..simply impossible! lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

And there are not many better ways to declare your individuality than screaching along to 'Everybody'.

Then again, some people have an acquired taste for eating processed salted roe (caviar) or raw fish. Again, doesn't cater to everyone's palette. ;)

~Kisses.

TG

[vietboy]

Isn't that an oxymoron?

First you say:




It is effeminate gay men who typically idolise Cher and Madonna.



In fact, a real transsexual is as likely to idolise them (Cher and Madonna) as any other woman.


Your statements are contradicting one another. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

No contradiction. Effeminate gay men typically idolise Cher and Madonna, whereas real transsexuals idolise them as much as any other woman, which, is to say, not very much.

In the real world, spent performers like Cher and Madonna are not idols like they are for gay guys.

That still doesn't ring any bell or logic reason. You've just repeated what you've said earlier.

You reiterated:

1. Effeminate gay men typically idolizes Cher and Madonna.

2. Real transexuals likewise (also?) idolize them (Cher and Madonna as much as any other woman.

...Therefore, Effeminate gay men and real transexuals (BOTH) IDOLIZES Cher and Madonna.

There is no difference between statement no.1 and statement no.2. Am I right or am I wrong here? lol

And out in the real world, Guinness book of world records, Recording Industry Association of America, vh1 etc. aren't predominantly comprised of Gay men and real transexuals, now are they? lol ;)

I failed to see the point you're driving at to be honest.

~Kisses.

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You're not very bright.

[Tomfurbs]

vietboy, you've kind of misunderstood this thread. But keep bumping it, if you must.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I'm not very bright or your not very good at articulating your thoughts?

When you use the word "whereas" meaning "on the contrary"..means "opposite"; "not the same".

I see no difference between gay men liking Cher or Madonna and real transexuals liking them except, one is gay and the other a transexual. The bottom line was both (gay and transexual) liked/shares an affinity (Idolizes) Cher and Madonna. We are not discussing sexuality or sexual preference here but why gay and trans people idolizes them.

~Kisses.

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[vietboy]

I'm not very bright or your not very good at articulating your thoughts?

When you use the word "whereas" meaning on the contrary..means 'opposite". Not the same.

I see no difference between gay men liking Cher or Madonna and real transexuals liking them except one is gay and the other a transexual. The bottom line was both liked (Idolizes) Cher and Madonna.

~Kisses.

HTG

Your spelling and grammar are as impeccable as your femininity, and you have wits to match.
You go, girl!

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

... :roll:

~Kisses.

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[SarahG]

It is effeminate gay men who typically idolise Cher and Madonna. In fact, a real transsexual is as likely to idolise them as any other woman....

I get what you're trying to say here, but it is the part I put in bold I have to comment on.

I think the huge elephant in the room, so to speak, is that a good chunk of the text-book GID people in the world have HAD to go into lgb culture for self preservation purposes.

Until recently it was so rare for trans people to transition (fully) early in life that complete passing & stealth was a very uncommon occurrence. A lot of the gender clinics in the 50s-early 80s wouldn't touch you with a 10 ft pole if you are under 30/35. Today, in some countries, it isn't had to find fully transitioned tgirls who haven't hit puberty yet. You'd have NEVER seen that with regularity 20, let alone 40 years ago.

So the generation that transitioned in decades past were less likely to pass, and less likely to transition early in life (also remember FFS hasn't been around nearly as long as SRS).... and since society was even less tolerant then- how were they to function in society (employment, friendships, dating, etc)? They did it by going into the gay culture of the time.

Gay culture has likewise remained to be a safe(r) place for runaways who get kicked out by their families when trying to transition young, and other similar horror stories.

And I think that is why there are so many elements of gay culture that have "crossed over" into the trans community, and why some "real" transsexuals idolize the same individuals.

However, those who transition young are LESS LIKELY to see a need to be interested in gay culture (especially if they transition in a tolerant environment), aren't going to be as likely to share the same idols, and are going to be more inclined to view things like the scope of this thread as "a left over from modern history." It is well known that trans people who transistion in a tolerant environment at an early age (like prepuberty) are as likely to be gay as anyone else in the nontrans general public.


Isn't that an oxymoron?

First you say:




It is effeminate gay men who typically idolise Cher and Madonna.



In fact, a real transsexual is as likely to idolise them (Cher and Madonna) as any other woman.


Your statements are contradicting one another. :roll:

~Kisses.

HTG

His statement is not contradicting the other.

He says that effeminate gay men typically idolize Cher and Madonna. He does not say effeminate gay men are the only ones to do so however.

He then says "real transsexuals are as likely to idolize cher and madonna as the general nontrans female population" (I am paraphrasing).

So what that means is, effeminate gay men are likely to idolize these individuals, but real transsexuals (whatever that is) are no more or less likely to do so than normal every day people in the general population.

I am sure there are nontrans female people in the general population who idolize these two artists. However, I agree with him in so far as I doubt this makes a significant portion of the general public whereas it -appears- that there is a high concentration of cher & madonna idolization within the population of gay effeminate men.

Make more sense now?

[Tika]

I like some Madonna songs, but I was never a fan of Madonna the person. I always thought she was a bit vulgar and into herself for my liking. Britney Spears is a pathetic joke as far as I'm concerned.

Cher seems pretty cool. She's lasted for decades, puts on great shows, sings well and is, I think, a strikingly beautiful woman. Again, I like a lot of her songs, but I'm not a fanatic.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Nm

w/e..

~Kisses.

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[BeardedOne]

trannies idolise Cher, Britney and Madonna?

It's a gay thing. They also like Bette Midler and have a shelf in their kitchens devoted to cookbooks specializing in quiche and decorative fruit displays.

It is generally believed that we (The fans, admirers, aficionados, followers, boyfriends, clients, chasers, stalkers) of "The T" are inherently gay because we suck T and like it up the ass three times on weekends, so they cater to what is perceived to be 'our' tastes to make themselves more attractive.

:shrug

[muhmuh]

Be ready to be called a fag!

you are aware hes british arent you?


Which means VH1 knows sweet fuck-all about rock and roll.

bugger all


when they aren't even part of the fucking community!

bloody
you should use this forum a little less i think it has a negative effect on your europeaness


-She is the master of re-invention. People never grew tired of her because she always has different look/styles to offer them.

-She is ranked by the Recording Industry Association of America as the best-selling female rock artist of the twentieth century and the second top-selling female artist in the United States with 63 million certified albums.

-Guinness World Records list her as the world's most successful female recording artist of all time and the top-earning female singer in the world with an estimated net worth of over US$400 million, having sold over 200 million records worldwide.

-Her Confessions Tour (which I've attended btw @300 a pop) is the highest grossing concert tour by a female artist.

-In the United Kingdom, she is the most successful female in the singles chart history and has more number one singles than any other female solo artist.

-In 2008, she surpassed Elvis Presley as the artist with most top ten hits in the history of Billboard Hot 100.

-In 2007, Madonna was listed by VH1 as eighth in the Greatest Women of Rock & Roll.

-On March 10, 2008, she was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

-Madonna donated $21 million towards a new Kabbalah school for children.

-She has been around in the industry for approximately two decades.

how does any of these relate to being transsexual?

[Alyssa87]

i dont like any of em.
growing up- i've loved

TLC
Kim & Foxy
Mary J & Faith Evans

theyre still my favorites even tho none of them are doing anything right now.

[tsntx]

my mom still really likes madonna and cher

she never cared for britney no matter how much i did

[tsntx]

faggotry all OVER this thread

faggotry!!!!!!!!!

[johnb]

faggotry all OVER this thread

faggotry!!!!!!!!!excuse me, but are you not making a living off faggotry? Flip-Flop, Flip-Flop!!! Hell, you might as well run for office...The TS Rush Limbaugh...although, you look better in a safari helmet than he would, or does, or has

[johnb]

and no, try as you might, you can't post my phone number

[johnb]

cause I would never, ever get drunk enough to call you

[Tomfurbs]

fag

bingo

[tsntx]

and no, try as you might, you can't post my phone number

i only post numbers of ppl that continue to call or txt me AFTER ive asked repeatedly to STOP...

as far as making my living off faggotry.... that i do... thnx 4 the rent money faggots!

http://www.gayborhood.tv/watch.cfm?view=urbansafari&show=76579D1D-1422-5BFF-CEE69182F49DDCB6

[ted naves]

Because aside from the fact that she may be a slut (slept her way to the top..literally) and a provocateur..here are a few facts why Madonna 'clicked' with the GLBT community world wide:

-Madonna isn't only pretty but also actually has a brain and had full scholarship at the University of Michigan.

-Madonna was one of the first major celebrities to lend her support to AIDS causes.

-The song "In This Life" from her fifth studio album, Erotica, is about the loss of Madonna's (gay) friends to AIDS, containing the line, "Have you ever watched your best friend die?"

-She has been a strong supporter of GLBT rights since she has a gay brother, Christopher Ciccone.

-One of Madonna's biggest hits, 1990's "Vogue", is a song in tribute to the underground dance form known as vogueing (have you guys seen Paris is Burning? Then you'll know) which first found popularity in gay bars and discos of New York City.

-She is the master of re-invention. People never grew tired of her because she always has different look/styles to offer them.

-She is ranked by the Recording Industry Association of America as the best-selling female rock artist of the twentieth century and the second top-selling female artist in the United States with 63 million certified albums.

-Guinness World Records list her as the world's most successful female recording artist of all time and the top-earning female singer in the world with an estimated net worth of over US$400 million, having sold over 200 million records worldwide.

-Her Confessions Tour (which I've attended btw @300 a pop) is the highest grossing concert tour by a female artist.

-In the United Kingdom, she is the most successful female in the singles chart history and has more number one singles than any other female solo artist.

-In 2008, she surpassed Elvis Presley as the artist with most top ten hits in the history of Billboard Hot 100.

-In 2007, Madonna was listed by VH1 as eighth in the Greatest Women of Rock & Roll.

-On March 10, 2008, she was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

-Madonna donated $21 million towards a new Kabbalah school for children.

-She has been around in the industry for approximately two decades.

And yes she is 50 and she looks good for her age..beauty and youth are fleeting, but we all do get old too you know?

I'm sure none of these matters to anyone who doesn't like her. It's easy to hate people who's worked their way up back from only having $35 bucks in her pocket when she first moved to New York. But you have to give her some credit for her works as an artist. ;) I mean, has anyone of you criticizing her able to accomplish even a 3rd of what she has accomplished?..Then I will personally and literally kiss your ass. Til then STFU!


You're beyond right, and you rule for posting such !

[peggygee]

I'm a middle-aged Black woman, and can't
really say that I have any gay or tranny
idols.

My sheroes would be women like the ones
below:


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Miss Hattie McDaniel

Miss Sojourner Truth - pictured with Abraham Lincoln

Dr. Angela Davis

Dr. Coretta Scott King

Miss Harriet Tubman

Miss Pam Grier

Dr. Maya Angelou

Miss Phyllis Hyman

Dr. Betty Shabazz

And of course my Mom. :wink: