GUYS ONLY......Ugly/regular TS or pretty/good looking CD.

[ARMANIXXX]

I was really curious as to which would be more appealing to the guys here.

There's no right or wrong answer btw, because this could very much be considered a "gray area".........so don't be scared. lol

Thanks.

[BrendaQG]

:popcorn

[Tomfurbs]

Your dick gets hard at what your dick gets hard at.

Most men learn this when they turn 13.

Some people should not be passing around any spectator snacks in a thread like this.

[BrendaQG]

I didn't say anything. I'm just having some popcorn is all. This is interesting. Looking at the girls that most men consider pretty here I don't see how they could ever be part time... unless they take their tits, hips and ass off at nite. (I have done part time, after a certain tipping point you can go out looking tore up and you just look like a tore up woman not a man. Understand?)

[62des]

Ts duh..CD is a man in a wig no matter how hard you get just picture them with their clothes off and it'll die down. lol

[Tomfurbs]

[quote="BrendaQG"(I have done part time, after a certain tipping point you can go out looking tore up and you just look like a tore up woman not a man. Understand?)[/quote]

Emphasis on 'certain tipping point'.

And I'm just commenting 'is all'.

[MrsKellyPierce]

interesting

[stro767]

This is a tough choice. Because an unattractive or average looking TS looks kind of like a man.

And a sexy CD looks like a woman. That is, until she takes off her clothes. And even then a pretty, skinny, young CD may look more femme unclothed than a TS thats built like a linebacker.

[ARMANIXXX]

This is a tough choice. Because an unattractive or average looking TS looks kind of like a man.

And a sexy CD looks like a woman. That is, until she takes off her clothes. And even then a pretty, skinny, young CD may look more femme unclothed than a TS thats built like a linebacker.



That isn't necessarily true.


Just like there are regular, average looking Genetic women in the world, soccer moms, secretaries, Safeway checkout clerks, gas station attendants, etc,

There are plenty of FULL TIME TS women that pass as one of those..........Fully passing.

Hard for you to believe, I guess, considering this is a 24/7 TS porn site full of hawt chicks, but trust me, they do exist, more common than you might think.

[BrendaQG]

It has been discussed often on here Passing=/=Pretty.

At times the difference between a TS and TG (CD/DQ/etc) can be self identification. One stays in drag all the time the other does not.

[tsntx]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D

[ARMANIXXX]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D




Cut it out..........








You're scaring away my pollsters.

:wink:

[tsntx]

just pointing out the simple facts

[ARMANIXXX]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you


3. You have a REALLY good bartender

:D





:wink:

[tsntx]

or dealer ;)

[BrendaQG]

I suppose if you voted for the second one then Shawn and Marlon Wayans from "White Chicks" would do?

http://www.webwombat.com.au/entertainment/movies/images/white-chicks2.JPG
Their fully functional guys! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDVi_myA540)

[trannybanger]

I suppose if you voted for the second one then Shawn and Marlon Wayans from "White Chicks" would do?

http://www.webwombat.com.au/entertainment/movies/images/white-chicks2.JPG
Their fully functional guys! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDVi_myA540)

Don't be jealous

[BrendaQG]

Yeah I wish I had a big of a cock as either of them likely have.

[tstv_lover]

No question for me - although I see I'm in the minority.

It's all about attitude. Femininity starts on the inside and works out, it's not just looks.

I find full-time girls attract me more. Not into cross-dressers or part-time TVs, although I understand others are.

[JANIRA]

TASTER'S CHOICE !

[BeardedOne]

I voted "YES".

Oh, on the popcorn, I highly recommend some Hickory Bacon Salt mixed in with the butter.

[ARMANIXXX]

^

What does "yes" mean?

[BrendaQG]

Hicory bacon salt. Hmm.

You know what's good on popcorn.... Pepper. Seriously pepper is really good on popcorn.

[David J.]

I have to vote for attractive CD. It's the feminine qualities that attract me and for some who are part-time, they are still feminine (and cute) when dressed as men.

[ARMANIXXX]

I have to vote for attractive CD. It's the feminine qualities that attract me and for some who are part-time, they are still feminine (and cute) when dressed as men.


Ok.


No problem,

and I appreciate your response.

[Dinand]

I don't want no dressed up guy!

[celticgrafix]

damn thats one hell of question, rough one at that

[MrsKellyPierce]

damn thats one hell of question, rough one at that^^^^^^ nice

[celticgrafix]

damn thats one hell of question, rough one at that^^^^^^ nice

if anyone if saying nice, its me to you

[MrsKellyPierce]

damn thats one hell of question, rough one at that^^^^^^ nice

if anyone if saying nice, its me to you awe thanks hottie.

[celticgrafix]

looks like im going to club diesel now

[ARMANIXXX]

damn thats one hell of question, rough one at that




I don't think it's that rough.

[RangeHova]

I think its all relative to the situation, how serious we are dating, and most importantly the girl.

I have some friends that do drag that are part-time who if you saw them in a club you would never know they were part time. In fact many have had work done but still live as males, androgynous but still male. I've known quite a few very attractive girls who lived in the real world as androgynous males. I'm talking girls with sizable breast and/or hips and ass that halfway hide them and present as males. They often have relationships (not serious ones) with men who never see them dressed as males. I would not out them in the CD category though. I don't find 99.999% of CDs attractive enough to even think about dating.

When I see girls like Asia Vitale, Angelique Ali, Maya Montana who are not full-time and who have not had work done, I can't say that I would prefer an average looking TS over someone like them. Asia, would seem to me to appear female even if she had on a 3 piece suit, same for Angelique. In fact I have seen her without a stich of makeup, in jeans and a T-shirt and she looked as femme as any other T in the room.

Well, I did once see Maya out of drag and my heart sank, she's all boy.

In most cases, i'd say never when it comes to part time girls. Definatley not any who clasify as crossdressers. I think a girl can be TS despite not living full-time. Part-time girls that look good enough to date are rare but there are some out there. I just could never see myself actually seeing her in male mode.

Asia Vitale:

[RangeHova]

Angelique Ali

I could take her part-time self home to the family without so much of a dust of make-up and no one would be the wiser.

[idiot savant]

I don't know why I read this thread,but me,being the shallow bastard that I know that I am(thank you),I would say neither.Life's short,why settle.

[macfan]

If they are feminine in personality then I can put up with either but if they are masculine in behavior, ala change of voice, muscular, scratch their balls then no thanks.

Might I add, many tgirls exist on some kind of scale of attraction in relationships, some are attracted to other women, tgirls and men and others to men exclusively. I'm only interested in those attracted to men primarily, much easier to work from that position of interaction.

In the end though the more feminine they are the more attracted I am to them whether they are average fulltime or hot part time. Its fairly significantly based on the feminine vibes given off for me to like them.

[ARMANIXXX]

I don't know why I read this thread,but me,being the shallow bastard that I know that I am(thank you),I would say neither.Life's short,why settle.


So,

Just out of curiosity,

Where do you live?

[blckhaze]

neither.
I have my standards.

[IndyCloset]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D
And don't forget...
3.That some posters can just be bitter ass haters, who although may have made some progress in becoming the woman they are, still had to start somewhere and it wasn't the top! So basically this particular poster is dissing anyone who possible may have liked her back durring a time when she didn't even like herself. Thus highlighting the arrogance of allot of shallow tgirls who have easily forgotten were they came from.... that and she's bored at home so she wants to pick an internet fight.

Just stating the obvious.....

[Lover]

If these ladies are CDs, sign me up.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Angelique Ali is on hormones and has hormone titties FYI, has been for years!

[indeed]

arent really good CD's TS's basically? look wise. i get lifestyle etc.

[ARMANIXXX]

Angelique Ali is on hormones and has hormone titties FYI, has been for years!


I've never seen or heard of her before this poll here,

But if that's true then I hereby disqualify her from being a CD.



:wink:

[MrsKellyPierce]

arent really good CD's TS's basically? look wise. i get lifestyle etc. no a CD is someone that does it for fun. A ts lives life 24/7. No matter if they are on hormones or not, have surgeries or not, or any other feminization.

A transsexual is someone that lives their life 24/7 as the oppisite gender of what they were born. The other stuff is transitioning.

[indeed]

arent really good CD's TS's basically? look wise. i get lifestyle etc. no a CD is someone that does it for fun. A ts lives life 24/7. No matter if they are on hormones or not, have surgeries or not, or any other feminization.

A transsexual is someone that lives their life 24/7 as the oppisite gender of what they were born. The other stuff is transitioning.
In the context of the question my question is valid. i noted lifestyle differences as being just that..

[ARMANIXXX]

arent really good CD's TS's basically? look wise. i get lifestyle etc.


ummmmm,


no.


TG's, ok, by true definition TG would be ok, I guess

A CD is a man in woman's clothes, and when they stop pretending they are women, they take their woman shit off and identify themselves as men.

[indeed]

arent really good CD's TS's basically? look wise. i get lifestyle etc.


ummmmm,


no.


TG's, ok, by true definition TG would be ok, I guess

A CD is a man in woman's clothes, and when they stop pretending they are women, they take their woman shit off and identify themselves as men.
I get that hence the "look wise" comment

[idiot savant]

I don't know why I read this thread,but me,being the shallow bastard that I know that I am(thank you),I would say neither.Life's short,why settle.


So,

Just out of curiosity,

Where do you live?

I'm from Louisiana,why you ask?

[ARMANIXXX]

I don't know why I read this thread,but me,being the shallow bastard that I know that I am(thank you),I would say neither.Life's short,why settle.


So,

Just out of curiosity,

Where do you live?

I'm from Louisiana,why you ask?


I was wondering if you've been with alot of TS girls before.

I don't think there is an abundance of TS girls in Louisiana........are there?

[BrendaQG]

arent really good CD's TS's basically? look wise. i get lifestyle etc.


ummmmm,


no.


TG's, ok, by true definition TG would be ok, I guess

A CD is a man in woman's clothes, and when they stop pretending they are women, they take their woman shit off and identify themselves as men.
I get that hence the "look wise" comment

This is the difference between a CD and a TS "look wise."

A TS's looks don't come off with her clothes.

A TS's tits are still tits when she's topless,

Our shape is still feminine when nearly naked... not induced by a bodysuit with inserts.

Basically a TS looks and acts like a girl no matter how tore up they are at the moment (like if they are all dirty just got done digging a ditch or something. That's what I mean by tore up.) Looking feminine has nothing to do with what they wear.

Understand?

[idiot savant]

Louisiana has it's fair amount,from the the beautiful to the scary like anywhere else.

[BlkJewels]

Gimme the tgirl

[TsVanessa69]

damn thats one hell of question, rough one at that
Fuck the topic of the post
lets talk about your avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tsntx]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D
And don't forget...
3.That some posters can just be bitter ass haters, who although may have made some progress in becoming the woman they are, still had to start somewhere and it wasn't the top! So basically this particular poster is dissing anyone who possible may have liked her back durring a time when she didn't even like herself. Thus highlighting the arrogance of allot of shallow tgirls who have easily forgotten were they came from.... that and she's bored at home so she wants to pick an internet fight.

Just stating the obvious.....

funny but i didnt mention myself nor did i semi refer to myself..... im not in most ppls top 10 in that other thread so i dont know why what i posted would have to point to the "obvious" that u said.... but i do know that im very happy w/ my transition... and i stand behind everything i said 110% and if this means some fag liked me back b4 i transitioned then thats HIS problem not mine, if hes happy being a fag im happy for him... it doesnt affect my life or my choices... so why are u so worried for him... unless you are the fag that you mention who pines away for my former less of a woman self

[RangeHova]

Angelique Ali is on hormones and has hormone titties FYI, has been for years!

I haven't seen her without a top on in years but I have seen her in t-shirts and wife beaters and if she has breast they are very very small. She has recent pics on her myspace of her in various clubs in jeans, t-shirts sporting a goatee.

[ARMANIXXX]

up.

I ain't done with this yet.

[tssexychanel]

damn thats one hell of question, rough one at that
Fuck the topic of the post
lets talk about your avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



WHOO HOOO HOOO HOOOO LMAO :popcorn

[IndyCloset]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D
And don't forget...
3.That some posters can just be bitter ass haters, who although may have made some progress in becoming the woman they are, still had to start somewhere and it wasn't the top! So basically this particular poster is dissing anyone who possible may have liked her back durring a time when she didn't even like herself. Thus highlighting the arrogance of allot of shallow tgirls who have easily forgotten were they came from.... that and she's bored at home so she wants to pick an internet fight.

Just stating the obvious.....

funny but i didnt mention myself nor did i semi refer to myself..... im not in most ppls top 10 in that other thread so i dont know why what i posted would have to point to the "obvious" that u said.... but i do know that im very happy w/ my transition... and i stand behind everything i said 110% and if this means some fag liked me back b4 i transitioned then thats HIS problem not mine, if hes happy being a fag im happy for him... it doesnt affect my life or my choices... so why are u so worried for him... unless you are the fag that you mention who pines away for my former less of a woman self

I was refering to the period durring your transition not before it. But your pretty so I'm sure you get allot of passes for not understanding things.....LOL!

However.

I notice you like to use the term "fag" allot as if a million compliments stating that you were passible has some how made you impervious to being call the word yourself. Well news for ya sweetheart outside this safe haven in that cold cold homophobic world most would call you the poster boy for "fags" and couldn't care lest about the little civil war going on between homosexual males and Transexual women. Or the fact that if you get enough cash you can turn a banana into a kiwi.

But I get it your a woman now and you like Straight men. That's cool I love you for it. But I had to call you out on the hypocracy of your statement. And here you are jumping to the defensive only proving my point even further.

You've got allot to be prowd of with your transition in all but on the surfice is where it stops. See I figure your type out a while ago. Basically when you look in the mirror beyond all the fondation and surgeries. Chances are she always going to see that banana...

[tsntx]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D
And don't forget...
3.That some posters can just be bitter ass haters, who although may have made some progress in becoming the woman they are, still had to start somewhere and it wasn't the top! So basically this particular poster is dissing anyone who possible may have liked her back durring a time when she didn't even like herself. Thus highlighting the arrogance of allot of shallow tgirls who have easily forgotten were they came from.... that and she's bored at home so she wants to pick an internet fight.

Just stating the obvious.....

funny but i didnt mention myself nor did i semi refer to myself..... im not in most ppls top 10 in that other thread so i dont know why what i posted would have to point to the "obvious" that u said.... but i do know that im very happy w/ my transition... and i stand behind everything i said 110% and if this means some fag liked me back b4 i transitioned then thats HIS problem not mine, if hes happy being a fag im happy for him... it doesnt affect my life or my choices... so why are u so worried for him... unless you are the fag that you mention who pines away for my former less of a woman self

I was refering to the period durring your transition not before it. But your pretty so I'm sure you get allot of passes for not understanding things.....LOL!

However.

I notice you like to use the term "fag" allot as if a million compliments stating that you were passible has some how made you impervious to being call the word yourself. Well news for ya sweetheart outside this safe haven in that cold cold homophobic world most would call you the poster boy for "fags" and couldn't care lest about the little civil war going on between homosexual males and Transexual women. Or the fact that if you get enough cash you can turn a banana into a kiwi.

But I get it your a woman now and you like Straight men. That's cool I love you for it. But I had to call you out on the hypocracy of your statement. And here you are jumping to the defensive only proving my point even further.

You've got allot to be prowd of with your transition in all but on the surfice is where it stops. See I figure your type out a while ago. Basically when you look in the mirror beyond all the fondation and surgeries. Chances are she always going to see that banana...

well hello again mr. stupid assumptions

there was no period of transition.... oh wait there was... i was a boy at 6am june 7 2004 and transitioned to basically the woman i am today by 12pm june 7 2004... so if one of u guys gets all hot and bothered by me being cut open and stuffed and having parts rearranged well i think that makes you pretty sick... but not nec. a fag
as far as the hypocricy of me using the word fag let me break it down for you for the eleven milliondy-th time ...
im a transexual woman - no surprise there right?
i was born a man - again keeping in mind the first point... no surprise
i only date men now that i have transitioned - not nec. a given but i doubt its shocking
i did experiment w/ homosexual men prior to my transition - and was subsequently called ... gasp.... a fag
did it bother me in high school... not really bc i felt i was a woman in some way and thus it felt more right to be w/ men than women
does it bother me now - are you kidding? by one of you fags? not in the least... in the "cold harsh outside world of reality", that i live in daily w/ my very public life and job as a mngr at a retail store in the mall, no.
bc ppl dont call me a fag, in fact the only time that term is EVER used in my direction is by some bitter, brick loving, pillow biter on this forum
so no it doesnt bother me... it just further proves my point that if i call you a fag and then you try to break it down that "if ure a ts then youre a man thus ure a fag too" well then mary you enjoying me or girls like me does make you a fag by your own logic as like u said... were all men


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[yngtxmale24]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D
And don't forget...
3.That some posters can just be bitter ass haters, who although may have made some progress in becoming the woman they are, still had to start somewhere and it wasn't the top! So basically this particular poster is dissing anyone who possible may have liked her back durring a time when she didn't even like herself. Thus highlighting the arrogance of allot of shallow tgirls who have easily forgotten were they came from.... that and she's bored at home so she wants to pick an internet fight.

Just stating the obvious.....

funny but i didnt mention myself nor did i semi refer to myself..... im not in most ppls top 10 in that other thread so i dont know why what i posted would have to point to the "obvious" that u said.... but i do know that im very happy w/ my transition... and i stand behind everything i said 110% and if this means some fag liked me back b4 i transitioned then thats HIS problem not mine, if hes happy being a fag im happy for him... it doesnt affect my life or my choices... so why are u so worried for him... unless you are the fag that you mention who pines away for my former less of a woman self

I was refering to the period durring your transition not before it. But your pretty so I'm sure you get allot of passes for not understanding things.....LOL!

However.

I notice you like to use the term "fag" allot as if a million compliments stating that you were passible has some how made you impervious to being call the word yourself. Well news for ya sweetheart outside this safe haven in that cold cold homophobic world most would call you the poster boy for "fags" and couldn't care lest about the little civil war going on between homosexual males and Transexual women. Or the fact that if you get enough cash you can turn a banana into a kiwi.

But I get it your a woman now and you like Straight men. That's cool I love you for it. But I had to call you out on the hypocracy of your statement. And here you are jumping to the defensive only proving my point even further.

You've got allot to be prowd of with your transition in all but on the surfice is where it stops. See I figure your type out a while ago. Basically when you look in the mirror beyond all the fondation and surgeries. Chances are she always going to see that banana...

well hello again mr. stupid assumptions

there was no period of transition.... oh wait there was... i was a boy at 6am june 7 2004 and transitioned to basically the woman i am today by 12pm june 7 2004... so if one of u guys gets all hot and bothered by me being cut open and stuffed and having parts rearranged well i think that makes you pretty sick... but not nec. a fag
as far as the hypocricy of me using the word fag let me break it down for you for the eleven milliondy-th time ...
im a transexual woman - no surprise there right?
i was born a man - again keeping in mind the first point... no surprise
i only date men now that i have transitioned - not nec. a given but i doubt its shocking
i did experiment w/ homosexual men prior to my transition - and was subsequently called ... gasp.... a fag
did it bother me in high school... not really bc i felt i was a woman in some way and thus it felt more right to be w/ men than women
does it bother me now - are you kidding? by one of you fags? not in the least... in the "cold harsh outside world of reality", that i live in daily w/ my very public life and job as a mngr at a retail store in the mall, no.
bc ppl dont call me a fag, in fact the only time that term is EVER used in my direction is by some bitter, brick loving, pillow biter on this forum
so no it doesnt bother me... it just further proves my point that if i call you a fag and then you try to break it down that "if ure a ts then youre a man thus ure a fag too" well then mary you enjoying me or girls like me does make you a fag by your own logic as like u said... were all men

I just have a couple of things to add to this. First of all, Jennifer Justice, you're in my top 10, 10 times out 10. Actually, i wouldn't even bother with a list after you(i'm assuming the top 10 is a flattering list). I'd just be disappointed. Second, it really pisses me off when someone tries to make what they think is an intelligent point, but can't even use words correctly. Indycloset, it's "alot," not allot. Allot is to distribute. Damn. Come on people. Quit arguing with the lovely Ms. Justice and pick up a dictionary. Or hell, if you're too lazy to do that, www.webster.com. It's hard to take you seriously when your comments are filled with misspellings and grammatical errors. One mistake, ok. I can even handle a couple. But come on, after awhile, you just display a pattern of ignorance. Someone obviously did not "allot" you with enough intelligence. Ok, i'm finished. Sorry. Tsntx, still making me proud to be in Texas. Still gorgeous! Oh, what mall? and if you can, what store?
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ottorocket]

Average and full time. I don't like head trippy chicks that go back and forth...

[tsntx]

thnx yngtx

[CheyanneDoll]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D

That's pretty harsh.

Gay men do not go for CD, TV or a TS. And when someone is a TV TS or CD..they were fags themselves, so i suppose it takes one to know one. lol

[CheyanneDoll]

Being a TV/CD myself, I think it's not gray, gay or whatever. People are attracted to what they are attracted to. You can't put a label on someone without asking. If they like men, woman..they're b?i. If they like TV, TS and woman..than they're bi? Point it, this is far more complex than any of us really care to realize. It's not black and white, it's grey, pink, blue, yellow etc. The discussion should be....What is a person who likes a CD? TV? TS? or all??
There really isn't a label/identity for these men to carry to feel confident in there sexuality. When you call them gay, it just makes them want to deny it. So, don't feed hate or oppression on these men. and you all wonder why it's hard for a TGIRL to find a boyfriend. It's because you are confusing them and calling them gay.


xo

[tsntx]

Being a TV/CD myself, I think it's not gray, gay or whatever. People are attracted to what they are attracted to. You can't put a label on someone without asking. If they like men, woman..they're b?i. If they like TV, TS and woman..than they're bi? Point it, this is far more complex than any of us really care to realize. It's not black and white, it's grey, pink, blue, yellow etc. The discussion should be....What is a person who likes a CD? TV? TS? or all??
There really isn't a label/identity for these men to carry to feel confident in there sexuality. When you call them gay, it just makes them want to deny it. So, don't feed hate or oppression on these men. and you all wonder why it's hard for a TGIRL to find a boyfriend. It's because you are confusing them and calling them gay.


xo



its not hard to find a boyfriend bc guys are confused... its bc the already limited supply of guys in any girls league are already small, then u factor in location, makes options smaller, factor in his desires for a relationship, makes it smaller, factor in said girls line of work, makes it smaller, etc etc

not bc we confuse them

if a guy is into men that crossdress or get aroused by cross dressing... simple fact is they like men.... regardless of the men they likes desires
dressing up as a woman to get ur rocks off or dressing up as a woman to help appease ur desire to be fulltime but yet you "cant" for whatever reason.... is not the same thing as being a ts

if a guy likes ts's i think its a gray area as to what his sexuality is...
i think u could be a total bottom and be straight
ure gay bc u like men
not bc u like it in the ass

once these fags get that... a lil name calling wont hurt..... unless its true

[tsntx]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D

That's pretty harsh.



so is reality

[Nowhere]

Look, I'm not knocking any of the TVs here, but it's just a fact that tgirls approach or even have real feminine curves only through the use of hormones. It's something no dieting or clothes can make real.

So, it's a rare sight where you get a tgirl who is not using hormones being more attractive than a tgirl who is. They'd have to be blessed with naturally feminine characteristics, incredibly slim, virtually no body and facial hair and to have all of that and be a TV is highly unusual.

This is no debate. The TS/TG will almost always be more attractive than a TV, since they'll have curves the TV won't.

But, feel free to post some pics that prove me wrong...

[IndyCloset]

more of a gay area than a grey

if you only have the option of seeing a busted girl or pretty fag then that tells us 2 things about you...
1. save your money up and buy quality vs. being over eager for that cock
2. your probably shooting close to your league, and the pretty ts's wont touch you and nobody wants to touch the pretty fags so its more a meeting of the minds for both of you

:D

That's pretty harsh.

Gay men do not go for CD, TV or a TS. And when someone is a TV TS or CD..they were fags themselves, so i suppose it takes one to know one. lol


Thank you CheyanneDoll LOL!

[IndyCloset]

Being a TV/CD myself, I think it's not gray, gay or whatever. People are attracted to what they are attracted to. You can't put a label on someone without asking. If they like men, woman..they're b?i. If they like TV, TS and woman..than they're bi? Point it, this is far more complex than any of us really care to realize. It's not black and white, it's grey, pink, blue, yellow etc. The discussion should be....What is a person who likes a CD? TV? TS? or all??
There really isn't a label/identity for these men to carry to feel confident in there sexuality. When you call them gay, it just makes them want to deny it. So, don't feed hate or oppression on these men. and you all wonder why it's hard for a TGIRL to find a boyfriend. It's because you are confusing them and calling them gay.


xo



its not hard to find a boyfriend bc guys are confused... its bc the already limited supply of guys in any girls league are already small, then u factor in location, makes options smaller, factor in his desires for a relationship, makes it smaller, factor in said girls line of work, makes it smaller, etc etc

not bc we confuse them

if a guy is into men that crossdress or get aroused by cross dressing... simple fact is they like men.... regardless of the men they likes desires
dressing up as a woman to get ur rocks off or dressing up as a woman to help appease ur desire to be fulltime but yet you "cant" for whatever reason.... is not the same thing as being a ts

if a guy likes ts's i think its a gray area as to what his sexuality is...
i think u could be a total bottom and be straight
ure gay bc u like men
not bc u like it in the ass

once these fags get that... a lil name calling wont hurt..... unless its true

........I agree.

[Legspreader]

Lol @ a TS calling a CD gay. Whatever makes you feel good I guess.lol.

[IndyCloset]

Being a TV/CD myself, I think it's not gray, gay or whatever. People are attracted to what they are attracted to. You can't put a label on someone without asking. If they like men, woman..they're b?i. If they like TV, TS and woman..than they're bi? Point it, this is far more complex than any of us really care to realize. It's not black and white, it's grey, pink, blue, yellow etc. The discussion should be....What is a person who likes a CD? TV? TS? or all??
There really isn't a label/identity for these men to carry to feel confident in there sexuality. When you call them gay, it just makes them want to deny it. So, don't feed hate or oppression on these men. and you all wonder why it's hard for a TGIRL to find a boyfriend. It's because you are confusing them and calling them gay.


xo

Well the chick in question didn't say gay or bi she said Fag. Which in my opinion is like me bleaching my skin white then calling the rest of my family ni99ers LOL!

But deep down she knows what I mean or she would not have felt the need to break down her comment three days later. I might be new here but I learn quickly, and although it's kinda lame to prejudgement any one you've never met. The fact is sadly "ALLOT" of us will never get the chance to physically meet so your basically held by your words, soooooo if you come off as smugg, condescending or down right nasty. Then eccept the back lash.

So tsntx wether you are gay TV, TS or ET I'd never call you a fag!

Thats all I'm saying....

[muhmuh]

So tsntx wether you are gay TV, TS or ET I'd never call you a fag!

what if shes smoking hot?... sry couldnt think of a more stupid pun

[poobah99]

Well, that's a hell of a choice! I don't think I want to play. :x

[tsntx]

Lol @ a TS calling a CD gay. Whatever makes you feel good I guess.lol.

lol call me a fag if that makes u feel better

it doesnt hurt my feelings faggot :D

[lockstockg]

damn thats one hell of question, rough one at that
Fuck the topic of the post
lets talk about your avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



WHOO HOOO HOOO HOOOO LMAO :popcorn




now now theres enough to go round

[bat1]

Ts duh..CD is a man in a wig no matter how hard you get just picture them with their clothes off and it'll die down. lol

TS's and GG's wear wigs too...kiddo! also let's not forget guys and there hair piece

[yngtxmale24]

Lol @ a TS calling a CD gay. Whatever makes you feel good I guess.lol.

lol call me a fag if that makes u feel better

it doesnt hurt my feelings faggot :D

What's the saying? "a fag in drag does not a woman make"
gotta agree with ms. justice. and oh, Jennifer, DAMN, i love your new avatar

[tsntx]

ty again yngtx

[yngtxmale24]

ty again yngtx


oh no, thank you. you're about the only reason i come to this website. you're gorgeous face and incredible wit, keep me aroused and amused.

[IndyCloset]

ty again yngtx


oh no, thank you. you're about the only reason i come to this website. you're gorgeous face and incredible wit, keep me aroused and amused.

Relax creep, she only likes you as a friend!

[yngtxmale24]

ty again yngtx


oh no, thank you. you're about the only reason i come to this website. you're gorgeous face and incredible wit, keep me aroused and amused.

Relax creep, she only likes you as a friend!Oh Shit!! Really? I thought if i said enough flattering things about her, she'd tell me she wants to be a friend with benefits, and would be on call 24/7 for my amusement. lol, you're such a tool.

[tsntx]

ty again yngtx


oh no, thank you. you're about the only reason i come to this website. you're gorgeous face and incredible wit, keep me aroused and amused.

Relax creep, she only likes you as a friend!Oh Shit!! Really? I thought if i said enough flattering things about her, she'd tell me she wants to be a friend with benefits, and would be on call 24/7 for my amusement. lol, you're such a tool.

thats what everyone else thinks too

ask 'em how well its working for them too ;)

dont let some fag in the closet get to u

[dc_guy_75]

Lol @ a TS calling a CD gay. Whatever makes you feel good I guess.lol.

lol call me a fag if that makes u feel better

it doesnt hurt my feelings faggot :D

I wouldn't mind Jen calling me faggot as I went down on her, it'd be quite erotic.

[tsntx]

hit me up when ure in tx dc... i love to fufill fantasies when i can ;)

[felix volkbein]

Will no one speak for the pretty fags? Oh, that's like kicking cute little puppies.


I wouldn't mind Jen calling me faggot as I went down on her, it'd be quite erotic.

As Paris Hilton likes to say "That's hot!"

[celticgrafix]

damn thats one hell of question, rough one at that
Fuck the topic of the post
lets talk about your avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


oh ok ur right fuck it then
lets talk about urs, looking all fine in that pic

[IndyCloset]

ty again yngtx


oh no, thank you. you're about the only reason i come to this website. you're gorgeous face and incredible wit, keep me aroused and amused.

Relax creep, she only likes you as a friend!Oh Shit!! Really? I thought if i said enough flattering things about her, she'd tell me she wants to be a friend with benefits, and would be on call 24/7 for my amusement. lol, you're such a tool.

thats what everyone else thinks too

ask 'em how well its working for them too ;)

dont let some fag in the closet get to u

"Fag!" Me???

Naaa, see I prefer women who are just as pretty as you are, but have substance and tactfulness as well. So by your own testimony that would make me "fag" free. Now see where dumbass assumptions get you LOL!

It's obvious that I've already gotten to you in more ways then one and I didn't have to call you out of your name to do it.

And although debasing you and your flunky has been fun, just like your old physique it's time for a change in scenery besides I made my point so my work here is done.

Stay focused....

[tsntx]

if u say so fag

[MonsieurValentine]

a ha ha ha ha ha.

[IndyCloset]

if u say so fag

C U Next Tuesday

[ARMANIXXX]

14 more replies till 300.


I'll be satisfied then.

[daleach]

Full time for me. I'm not into TVs or CCs its TS all the way.

[tsntx]

i put fulltime just to see where the votes were


im shocked lol


i was gonna say maybe if u included the rates of the FT and the rates of the PT ... it might help swing the voting over to PT being in the lead.... lmao... it doesnt even need help winning... disgusting.... if the guys putting parttime even half assed tried... they could prob pull some hotter ts's that were even out of their league

guess "effort" is overrated these days

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Efforts to live full time or efforts be a pretty part timer? I'm confused..lol ;)

I voted full time btw.

~Kisses.

HTG

[Tomfurbs]

You are shocked that someone would choose someone attractive over someone unattractive (which is in essence what the poll is asking)?

It is just how men are. We think with our dicks most of the time. That is why there are so many blokes in the closet and chasing on the DL.

p.s Yes I know you were joking :lol:

[SarahG]

You are shocked that someone would choose someone attractive over someone unattractive (which is in essence what the poll is asking)?

The poll is so vague you have no idea how the two choices compare in terms of changes to their bodies. Have both been on hrt for a significant length of time? Or just the FT example? (I realize some tvs will use hrt, but I doubt most do, hence the question).

If only the FT choice has been actively transitioning, then I find it mind numbing that more than half of you all would pick the PT choice... because that's the choice that wouldn't have the femininity that comes from years of stuff like hrt use. No soft skin, no curves, no female fat distribution. Yet how many guys here say the attraction to tgirls is "all about the femininity with a cock"? Either it is about the female body characteristics, or it's not (or am I oversimplifying things here?).

You guys seriously wouldn't have a prob being with someone who goes by a male name? Since, I am guessing, this is a poll mainly about sex- what do you do when they get naked and there's nothing under the clothes but an unaltered, shaved male body? What do you do when they take a shower after, walk out naked, without wigs (if they use them), clothes, or makeup on?


Not even going to touch on personality, voice, mannerisms, and stuff like that. Although I am sure if you tried hard enough you could find people who are ft that don't have female mannerisms, and pt people who do (truly have it, not just as an "act").

[daleach]

You are shocked that someone would choose someone attractive over someone unattractive (which is in essence what the poll is asking)?

The poll is so vague you have no idea how the two choices compare in terms of changes to their bodies. Have both been on hrt for a significant length of time? Or just the FT example? (I realize some tvs will use hrt, but I doubt most do, hence the question).

If only the FT choice has been actively transitioning, then I find it mind numbing that more than half of you all would pick the PT choice... because that's the choice that wouldn't have the femininity that comes from years of stuff like hrt use. No soft skin, no curves, no female fat distribution. Yet how many guys here say the attraction to tgirls is "all about the femininity with a cock"? Either it is about the female body characteristics, or it's not (or am I oversimplifying things here?).

You guys seriously wouldn't have a prob being with someone who goes by a male name? Since, I am guessing, this is a poll mainly about sex- what do you do when they get naked and there's nothing under the clothes but an unaltered, shaved male body? What do you do when they take a shower after, walk out naked, without wigs (if they use them), clothes, or makeup on?


Not even going to touch on personality, voice, mannerisms, and stuff like that. Although I am sure if you tried hard enough you could find people who are ft that don't have female mannerisms, and pt people who do (truly have it, not just as an "act").

Well said, SarahG. It boggels the mind.

[BrendaQG]

You are shocked that someone would choose someone attractive over someone unattractive (which is in essence what the poll is asking)?

The poll is so vague you have no idea how the two choices compare in terms of changes to their bodies. Have both been on hrt for a significant length of time? Or just the FT example? (I realize some tvs will use hrt, but I doubt most do, hence the question).

If only the FT choice has been actively transitioning, then I find it mind numbing that more than half of you all would pick the PT choice... because that's the choice that wouldn't have the femininity that comes from years of stuff like hrt use. No soft skin, no curves, no female fat distribution. Yet how many guys here say the attraction to tgirls is "all about the femininity with a cock"? Either it is about the female body characteristics, or it's not (or am I oversimplifying things here?).

You guys seriously wouldn't have a prob being with someone who goes by a male name? Since, I am guessing, this is a poll mainly about sex- what do you do when they get naked and there's nothing under the clothes but an unaltered, shaved male body? What do you do when they take a shower after, walk out naked, without wigs (if they use them), clothes, or makeup on?


Not even going to touch on personality, voice, mannerisms, and stuff like that. Although I am sure if you tried hard enough you could find people who are ft that don't have female mannerisms, and pt people who do (truly have it, not just as an "act").

The problem with knowing what to make of that thread is that it does not define who a part timer is. Is a part timer a transsexual who is not yet in a position to go full time (say at work or school)? Or is a part timer like B. Scott in this video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-UWBVCk44Q) {sarcasm}I swear once he's done with the electrolysis look out!{/sarcasm} Seriously though I know of post op's who could take a hint from him. Hell his hair is better than mine! (Please tell me that is a wig.)

Just where do we draw the lines?

[IndyCloset]

Hmm, I guess if the question was more like would you prefer a Fulltime TS who looks like MikeTyson with makeup or a Partime who looks like Kim Kardashian of which you would only be meeting up with part time anyway then I guess this question would be a no brainer.

Now if the looks of both parties were closer beauty wise then I'd have to side with Fulltime. Now I've only been with two girls that claim they were partimers yet they were flawless when dress so I couldn't care less. And it wasn't until I ran into one of them undressed in the day time that this became a problem which kinda fucked up my whole view of her in a way.... But I wasn't ignorant or nothing we just spoke and kept it moving.

[yx]

You are shocked that someone would choose someone attractive over someone unattractive

The poll does say "unnattractive or regular looking" in regards to the full timer.

Anyway, the choice wasn't difficult at all. Someone who doesn't live as a woman full time isn't woman enough for me.

[tsntx]

Efforts to live full time or efforts be a pretty part timer? I'm confused..lol ;)

I voted full time btw.

~Kisses.

HTG

the guys effort to at least try to talk to a pretty ts

vs.

being a pussy and taking the pretty cd looking for validation ;D

[IndyCloset]

Efforts to live full time or efforts be a pretty part timer? I'm confused..lol ;)

I voted full time btw.

~Kisses.

HTG

the guys effort to at least try to talk to a pretty ts

vs.

being a pussy and taking the pretty cd looking for validation ;D

~Side Bar~

That's not what the topic is about.

I thinks it's whether you'd choose an unattractive tg over a beautiful CD.

Now if it's Saturday night and your just looking for Miss "Right now" And you meet two equally attractive women of which one happens to be part time then I guess personality could play as the deciding factor.

Now someone who's too shy or too nervous to talk to an attractive TG is a different story all together.

As for me though there's no validation in taking home a consolation prize...

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hmm, I guess if the question was more like would you prefer a Fulltime TS who looks like MikeTyson with makeup or a Partime who looks like Kim Kardashian

Oh but, then one wouldn't be even considered FULL TIME if SHE looked like TYSON though! lol

~Kisses.

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[IndyCloset]

Hmm, I guess if the question was more like would you prefer a Fulltime TS who looks like MikeTyson with makeup or a Partime who looks like Kim Kardashian

Oh but, then one wouldn't be even considered FULL TIME if SHE looked like TYSON though! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

Unfortunately the question was would you choose an unattractive tgirl. Now ofcourse my example may sound a little extreme but you'd be surprised what claims to be a woman these days.... Hell I've seen GG's that look like Tyson which shouldn't sound too unrealistick when all you have to do is reference one of those 3rd world country shows. Then again sometimes you don't even have to look that far.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hmm, I guess if the question was more like would you prefer a Fulltime TS who looks like MikeTyson with makeup or a Partime who looks like Kim Kardashian

Oh but, then one wouldn't be even considered FULL TIME if SHE looked like TYSON though! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

You'd be surprised what claims to be a women these days....

Yeah, I KNOW! :lol:

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[ARMANIXXX]

The poll does say "unnattractive or regular looking" in regards to the full timer.

Anyway, the choice wasn't difficult at all. Someone who doesn't live as a woman full time isn't woman enough for me.




I normally like to make fun and razz the rookies a bit, but you deserve props for paying attention.

Thanks.

[ARMANIXXX]

Well, this poll is just about over, so I just wanted to thank all of the pollsters for their candid response. All of the accrued data shall be overseen an calculated by the top minds around the world.

Thanks.

[ARMANIXXX]

Notations for me:




I'd rather have an unattractive or regular looking ts girl who's FULLTIME.
31%
31% [ 111 ]




I'd rather have a someone who looks pretty even though she's PART TIME.
68%
68% [ 236 ]






Total Votes : 347

[Sonja.bebe]

interesting read :)

thx...

EDIT: why all the ts are voting *g*, topic says otherwise!

[a994]

No part-timers allowed.


P.S. Hara, that is your prettiest avatar photo ever.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Why thank you a994. :P

~Kisses.

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