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Realgirls4me
07-14-2008, 11:50 PM
Leaving out the sub-genres (TS with TS, TS with GG, S/M, solo, etc) that are associated today with TS porn due to all the discussion they can obviously generate in themselves, and sticking to just TS women coupled on the screen with men, vote for the thing you find the most annoying or troublesome about TS porn today.

With Seachai, Buddy, Wendy, Allanah, Bob(I hope), Danielle, Vicki, etc., frequenting the forum as they do, maybe our voices in this little unscientific poll will bear some fruit down the line someday. Maybe reaching a high consensus on one or two things will get the attention of those producing these DVDs and they'll work not to dismiss them in the future? ...It's certainly worth the effort involved in a simple little click, right?

... I based my options on what I sense irks posters in here from previous postings, and added a couple of my own. :)

Ack, I left out Gay trailers on the TS DVD. WTF?

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 12:55 AM
Early in the poll, yes, but what's this thing with Tom Moore?

Is it his ubiquity, his acting, his bald head, envy, WHAT ???

LOL!

Personally, I'm envious of the fucker.

hondarobot
07-15-2008, 01:05 AM
I didn't vote, because I generally don't vote in polls (nothing personal, RG4M) but this is what I'd like to see more of:

Hot girls fucking other hot girls. I love that, in any variation. Strap-ons or pre-op or post-op, whatever. You can't beat watching two hot girls fuck. I believe this is also Hugh Hefner's particular kink, so perhaps it's a sign of genius.

8)

Ecstatic
07-15-2008, 01:21 AM
Real, this poll should be checkbox, not radio button, because there are several really valid points you raise (which I'm sure is your intent). Here are my top 3 peeves from your list:

1. Too much camera movement (Equilibrium is in!)

Got to agree with you; I'm a photographer, not a videographer, but when I shot video, I strive for smooth and stable shots and also try to avoid the dreaded head cut-off: yeah, we want the action, but let's see the girl's face, too! And invest in a fluid pan head for your tripod!

2. Music (Get rid of it, or make it less pronounced)

Agreed, I don't need to pretend that I'm in a Times Sq dive circa 1980.

3. Fake jizz

I'd rather not see her cum than see fake jizz. Who's that Brazilian producer who actually injects fake jizz into his models' cocks so they can "cum"?

Overlord Abomination
07-15-2008, 02:43 AM
Hot girls fucking other hot girls. I love thatpre-op or post-op, whatever. You can't beat watching two hot girls fuck.


8)

I just like watching T girls on T girls. Pre or post i dont care, Just fuck each other until your sweaty, not like your 2 little boys discovering each other. FUCK! I don't even watch porn at this point, it needs another reinvention. HD is cool but i want more. Maybe thats the problem.

Lick UR Lovely
07-15-2008, 02:52 AM
Inadequate lighting.....

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 03:03 AM
I didn't vote, because I generally don't vote in polls (nothing personal, RG4M) but this is what I'd like to see more of:

Hot girls fucking other hot girls. I love that, in any variation. Strap-ons or pre-op or post-op, whatever. You can't beat watching two hot girls fuck. I believe this is also Hugh Hefner's particular kink, so perhaps it's a sign of genius.

8)

Honda:
The poll -- a very limited and unscientific one at that -- was not on what we might want to see more of, but what we'd like to see less of, if not completely removed from TS porn. I qualified it all by narrowing it down to the most basic boy with TS girl genre. Be my guest as far as creating your own poll on TSgirl/TSgirl, Girl/TSgirl, and such. I am going to assume that the bulk of TS DVD sales still favors the boy fucks TS girl genre, and so all I wanted to get at was just what is it generally about this boy fucks girl genre that eats at most in here who are familiar with TS porn. I'm sure there's some overlap involved with the other sub-genres, but my focus was with boy with girl scenes. TS women fucking GG women scenes, for example, probably has its own pet peeves tied to it. Make sense?

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 03:06 AM
Real, this poll should be checkbox, not radio button, because there are several really valid points you raise (which I'm sure is your intent). Here are my top 3 peeves from your list:

1. Too much camera movement (Equilibrium is in!)

Got to agree with you; I'm a photographer, not a videographer, but when I shot video, I strive for smooth and stable shots and also try to avoid the dreaded head cut-off: yeah, we want the action, but let's see the girl's face, too! And invest in a fluid pan head for your tripod!

2. Music (Get rid of it, or make it less pronounced)

Agreed, I don't need to pretend that I'm in a Times Sq dive circa 1980.

3. Fake jizz

I'd rather not see her cum than see fake jizz. Who's that Brazilian producer who actually injects fake jizz into his models' cocks so they can "cum"?

Ecstatic:
"Checkbox" ??? Was I given a choice at the time? I threw it up hastily at the time and I don't remember if checkbox was available. ... Is it available? I believe this was my first time utilizing the poll function.

The worst part on the music issue, is that the music's level will at times drown out a woman's sensual moan, speech, or sexy shreik or scream. Yes, get rid of it if it screws up the scene.

Yes, I want to see the woman's face, but I also want to see every luscious curve from head to toe of the woman exploited to the hilt. When we don't get to see a beautiful woman's sexy figure completely not obscured or without getting cut off, it is akin to trying to view Yosemite National Park through the small windows of an old overhead camper. Imagine seeing your lovely Cynthia a la carte?
I obviously can't slam all producers of TS porn for what I perceive are gaping shortcomings because I have not obviously seen everything they've produced, but many of Gia Darling's productions I have viewed seem to recognize a girl's ENTIRE physical beauty, and definitely seem to make an effort to showcase it. She succeeds in bringing the girl to one's bedroom.

I don't get the attraction to fake jizz or spitting and such, but they are minor annoyances to yours truly. I can live with fake jizz if they were to get all the other stuff right. ... Okay, who here does get turned on by fake jizz? Fess up, y'all. ;)

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 03:08 AM
Hot girls fucking other hot girls. I love thatpre-op or post-op, whatever. You can't beat watching two hot girls fuck.


8)

I just like watching T girls on T girls. Pre or post i dont care, Just fuck each other until your sweaty, not like your 2 little boys discovering each other. FUCK! I don't even watch porn at this point, it needs another reinvention. HD is cool but i want more. Maybe thats the problem.

Overlord:
I don't care for T-girl on T-girl, but more power to you for your preference. I don't know if it needs to be reinvented, as much as it needs to be slow downed. Many are hastily produced, and it shows. ... I suppose the same could also be said about GG porn and all other genres. Oh, well.

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 03:09 AM
Inadequate lighting.....

Lick:
That doesn't seem to be such a problem with American produced TS porn, but I will agree with you with some of the stuff that has been produced in Brazil, particularly all the stuff they produce at night OUTDOORS. What's up with that?

hondarobot
07-15-2008, 03:12 AM
I understand what you're saying. As far as music, I would say this should be the only soundtrack allowed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG_6CopW9GQ

:)

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 03:34 AM
I understand what you're saying. As far as music, I would say this should be the only soundtrack allowed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG_6CopW9GQ

:)

You've got issues, dude. ;)

... Hey, I'm encouraged by the most popular annoyance so far (Yes, I know it's early). Guys being bottomed was my second choice after my first choice which is showing or displaying more of the girls physical beauty featured in the DVD. I don't want to see guys get fucked.

:)

Aunt Kay
07-15-2008, 03:37 AM
When I used to rent movies, I got very annoyed with fake jizz.

Now, I'd like to see more TG and GG movies that are QUALITY.

Overlord Abomination
07-15-2008, 03:47 AM
@Realgirls4me: No don't slow it down, just give porn a new approach, Maybe better locations, Better flow to scenes so it "Feels" natural and spontaneous and all that good stuff that radiates from good sex. Nacho vidal's been kickin out some good stuff, good quality, good cast, Great sex. I hate to say that i thought about it for a second and realized porn cant go any further. But i'll wait and see.

"I suppose the same could also be said about GG porn and all other genres. Oh, well."Amen

tg4me
07-15-2008, 04:01 AM
I did not vote because you left out too many things I dislike.
I prefer not to see any male tops
no ghetto culture,bling, music, white or black
no girls with big boobs or big butts,big lips
no face shots
no comedy in my porn
no silly costumes like santa
no toilet sex
no uncut if possible
If I pick up a box and see any of the above i'll put it back 90% of the time.

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 04:02 AM
@Realgirls4me: No don't slow it down, just give porn a new approach, Maybe better locations, Better flow to scenes so it "Feels" natural and spontaneous and all that good stuff that radiates from good sex. Nacho vidal's been kickin out some good stuff, good quality, good cast, Great sex. I hate to say that i thought about it for a second and realized porn cant go any further. But i'll wait and see.

"I suppose the same could also be said about GG porn and all other genres. Oh, well."Amen

What I meant is in agreement with what you just posted here. When I said "slow down", I meant in terms of production value and such. All that you mentioned not only takes time and money, but THOUGHT also.






... Seanchai is going to hammer us, huh? :)

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 04:07 AM
I did not vote because you left out too many things I dislike.
I prefer not to see any male tops
no ghetto culture,bling, music, white or black
no girls with big boobs or big butts,big lips
no face shots
no comedy in my porn
no silly costumes like santa
no toilet sex
no uncut if possible
If I pick up a box and see any of the above i'll put it back 90% of the time.

Wow, I've never seen much of the stuff you've listed. "Santa suits" ?

I was just trying to get at some basic annoyances within the context of girl with guy type of TS porn. I agree with most, if not all, that you listed, but your annoyances are a bit more nuanced than mine. I did not have the room to list more annoyances. Sorry.

Just vote for the BIGGEST annoyance from my list for now. Even though I did not list everything, there is nothing there that annoys you?

Willie Escalade
07-15-2008, 08:07 AM
If T-girl porn was made the way Jules Jordan makes his, all would be perfect. Just check out any volume of Ass Worship.

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 08:14 AM
If T-girl porn was made the way Jules Jordan makes his, all would be perfect. Just check out any volume of Ass Worship.

Who is Jules Jordan? What is her/his style or signature?

Willie Escalade
07-15-2008, 08:34 AM
Who is Jules Jordan? What is her/his style or signature?
http://www.julesjordan.com/home.php

Check out some of the trailers.

tsluva
07-15-2008, 12:30 PM
uh-oh,i hope male-bottoming doesn't cease! :wink:
i can understand making overrall more versatile-2 way though.
Three things that annoys me with Tom Moore in ts-porn:
1. i dont want the male performers trying to outshine/take attention
away from the lead female stars
2. too many times he won't shut the fuck up
3. sorry, i honestly get flat out tired of seeing him.

more "don't want" subjects i would've considered in a poll like this:
1. ts-threesome where 2 gay guys are sucking/fucking each other.
2. no excessive solo masturbation action
3. bad camera shots ( but bad angles, fuck scenes too dark,no close-ups)
4. only very brief chat in introductions (virtual shemale vids are horrible at that! wish they'd put long chats in the special feature section)

Question: how do the studios produce " fake jizz" ?

Mac_Hine
07-15-2008, 01:25 PM
i agree tom moore is annoying, but it seems like he hasn't been in a new movie in awhile. his little annoying sidekick still pops up though, and he's a million times worse than tom :x

99% of ts girls seem to be afraid of cum, swallowing is almost non-existent. that's bothersome.

but my biggest problem with ts porn nowadays is the complete lack of new hardcore stuff, especially with americans. there's only a small handful of websites producing new content, and full length dvd's are few and far between. even 'american' dvd releases are padded with at least a couple of brazilian scenes.

bobstgirls, shemaleyum, frankstgirlword, all have the hottest trans girls out there, but almost zero hardcore content. why? is it a money thing? shemaleyum and franks throw us a bone every now and then, but bobstgirls has none. zero new hardcore content. why am i paying 30-35 a month for just solo vids and pictures?

tseducation.com is one site that really pisses me off. they seem to be able to get the most popular american transsexuals in porn to do hardcore, yet they only top. i'm not against topping, but dedicating a site to it, especially when there is such a lack of hardcore out there, is ridiculous.

and why is it that a popular gg star like, say, sasha grey, has done HUNDREDS of scenes, while arguably the most popular 'new' tranny porn star, khloe hart, as done less than 10?

i know the thread is about SPECIFIC production complaints, but what's the use of complaining when there are almost no new scenes to complain about?

RANT OVER

DJ_Asia
07-15-2008, 01:50 PM
Cant speak for any other producer,only myself...im on my fucked up laptop and ill repond in depth hen PC get back from shop...

Reading some of the things thru make sense...some dont...more later.

callahac
07-15-2008, 04:32 PM
I'd like to see more seens with two guys and a shemale. Where the guy also have sex with each other in addition to sex with the shemale. I've seen a few scenes like this involving Alexia Freire and two guys as well as Karol Braziol where she is with about 5 guys. Very hot seeing guys get so turned on by shemales that they start fucking and blowing each other.

Ecstatic
07-15-2008, 05:57 PM
Ecstatic:
"Checkbox" ??? Was I given a choice at the time? I threw it up hastily at the time and I don't remember if checkbox was available. ... Is it available? I believe this was my first time utilizing the poll function.

Actually, I think the polls in the forum are limited to radio (one choice only) options, not checkbox (multiple choice) options, so it's not your bad, it's just the limitation of the forum which makes polls like this harder to use, imho.

Dinand
07-15-2008, 07:40 PM
I went for Too much male bottoming of course. I rent tgirl porn so the tgirls can be girls, not boys!

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 08:17 PM
tsluva,
Thanks for your two cents on Tom Moore. I have actually gone as far as NOT going through with a DVD purchase simply because I saw him coupled with the featured girl. He's everywhere. He's what William Schallert was to 60s and 70s TV shows.

It's obviously not a comprehensive poll, nor a very scientific one, but I am somewhat surprised at how many here find the males getting bottomed as their number one annoyance. For me, it just isn't, well, "natural" to have a woman fuck a guy, even if she does have a dick. To each his own, right?

I qualified the context of the poll (read my initial post) basing the scenes on just a woman and a man. All the other sub-genres such as extended solo scenes, threesomes, and girl/girl, etc, all have issues of their own, and were not at play here. It's what is it that bugs you about the basic boy/girl scenes in TS porn? I missed offering a couple of good choices such as "fake penetrations and fake orgasms". Sorry.

Mac,

You bring up a lot of good points ... maybe we should do a poll of what we would like to see more of in TS porn, huh? I'll touch on just one thing you brought up:

Yes, swallowing is nonexistent. I'd like to see at least one good DVD dedicated to that genre. Mainstream porn has really taken off with that it seems. ...I purchased Shemales Drink Cum #2 (Blue Pictures), and it has to be one of the biggest rip-offs out there. Needless to say, not one star in this DVD is shown swallowing. It's the same camera trick utilized with each girl every time. I think Vicki Richter has been the only girl I've seen swallow on a TS DVD production. I wish I could remember the DVD title. If there is a good genuine swallowing scene out there, let me know.

callahac,

We're talking just basic boy/girl scenes here -- read the original post on the first page. I thought I would narrow it down to its most basic and work from there. Yes, there are issues everywhere with TS porn, particularly the sub-genres, which cater to more nuanced views/tastes.

Flabee,

It looks like diluted apple sauce ... Wait, it is diluted apple sauce. ;)

Dinand,

I am totally with you, and it appears most are with us so far. I paid to see the women be women. The actress's womanhood/gender kind of takes a shot when the scene changes to a girl fucking a guy. ...Women, assume your positions! :D

Mac_Hine
07-15-2008, 08:55 PM
Mac,

You bring up a lot of good points ... maybe we should do a poll of what we would like to see more of in TS porn, huh? I'll touch on just one thing you brought up:

Yes, swallowing is nonexistent. I'd like to see at least one good DVD dedicated to that genre. Mainstream porn has really taken off with that it seems. ...I purchased Shemales Drink Cum #2 (Blue Pictures), and it has to be one of the biggest rip-offs out there. Needless to say, not one star in this DVD is shown swallowing. It's the same camera trick utilized with each girl every time. I think Vicki Richter has been the only girl I've seen swallow on a TS DVD production. I wish I could remember the DVD title. If there is a good genuine swallowing scene out there, let me know.


there were a couple clips from perfectladyboys.com, a Cream scene and an Ice scene i believe, they both genuinely swallowed. that site doesn't seem to be online anymore though, you'll need to find them through 'different' means, heh [edit: looks like the site is back up, weird]

the brazilian andrea mel has done it in a few of her movies, and couple girls from ladyboygold.... but yeah, it's like it never happens. i'm sure disease is a concern, but in the states, where hiv testing is mandatory (at least that's what i thought) it pretty much never occurs. :\

hondarobot
07-15-2008, 10:03 PM
i dont think i ever noticed fake jizz, but now im gonna look out for it!

I don't think this meant to be funny, but I'm still laughing about this post.

:lol:

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 10:17 PM
I still don't get all the fake jizz thing? It's tied for third right now with the not enough focusing on the girls beauty option. Is it when the camera breaks away from the girl's cock just as she is about to fire, and then returns to find gobs of some Elmer's glue like solution on her tummy? Or, is it when the girl is blowing a guy and already has some kind of semen-like fluid in her mouth placed in between edits and it starts to flow down her chin just as the receiver fakes an orgasm?

Is it just the look of fake jizz? WHAT?

I can't believe so many find that so annoying? I kind of see it as just a bad prop. I guess it's how they utilize it to me. If it is so obvious, yes, get rid of scenes like that.

Explain, y'all. :)

tg4me
07-15-2008, 10:17 PM
tsluva,
Thanks for your two cents on Tom Moore. I have actually gone as far as NOT going through with a DVD purchase simply because I saw him coupled with the featured girl. He's everywhere. He's what William Schallert was to 60s and 70s TV shows.

It's obviously not a comprehensive poll, nor a very scientific one, but I am somewhat surprised at how many here find the males getting bottomed as their number one annoyance. For me, it just isn't, well, "natural" to have a woman fuck a guy, even if she does have a dick. To each his own, right?

I qualified the context of the poll (read my initial post) basing the scenes on just a woman and a man. All the other sub-genres such as extended solo scenes, threesomes, and girl/girl, etc, all have issues of their own, and were not at play here. It's what is it that bugs you about the basic boy/girl scenes in TS porn? I missed offering a couple of good choices such as "fake penetrations and fake orgasms". Sorry.

Mac,

You bring up a lot of good points ... maybe we should do a poll of what we would like to see more of in TS porn, huh? I'll touch on just one thing you brought up:

Yes, swallowing is nonexistent. I'd like to see at least one good DVD dedicated to that genre. Mainstream porn has really taken off with that it seems. ...I purchased Shemales Drink Cum #2 (Blue Pictures), and it has to be one of the biggest rip-offs out there. Needless to say, not one star in this DVD is shown swallowing. It's the same camera trick utilized with each girl every time. I think Vicki Richter has been the only girl I've seen swallow on a TS DVD production. I wish I could remember the DVD title. If there is a good genuine swallowing scene out there, let me know.

callahac,

We're talking just basic boy/girl scenes here -- read the original post on the first page. I thought I would narrow it down to its most basic and work from there. Yes, there are issues everywhere with TS porn, particularly the sub-genres, which cater to more nuanced views/tastes.

Flabee,

It looks like diluted apple sauce ... Wait, it is diluted apple sauce. ;)

Dinand,

I am totally with you, and it appears most are with us so far. I paid to see the women be women. The actress's womanhood/gender kind of takes a shot when the scene changes to a girl fucking a guy. ...Women, assume your positions! :D
:?: :?: You see a hot girl. She seduces you with her beauty. She has you turned on as she sucks your cock. Out of nowhere, she pulls out a cock and makes you suck it and then she fucks you silly with it. A girl can't do that. A TS can and that is the reason they have TS porn.
At best a girl could do the same thing but only with a strap-on. It may not make much of a difference if she fucks you, but sucking on a plastic dick is not the same. That's why I enjoy a TS playing top. It is their unique ability they bring to the business. A real dick on a pretty girl.
What are they doing for you if they don't use their dicks? Would you let a pretty lady use a strap-on on you :?:

Realgirls4me
07-15-2008, 10:23 PM
tg4me,

I get what you're saying and totally understand the fantasy you just laid out (Thank you), but I think I had the most basic "natural" boy/girl sex involved, and the issues linked specifically to them. I see what you just laid out for me as more of a sub-genre, but I obviously could be wrong. ...I thought of the old Dana Douglass, Lony Brown scenes, in which they never topped (I don't think they did) when I initially posted this. I think most hetero males still view a TS woman as a woman, and therefore assign all the roles and behaviors to them that one would assign to a GG, hence why possibly so many are turned off by seeing a man being topped by a beautiful woman.

Yes, a real dick on a pretty girl. I get it and totally see where you are coming from. I guess it's a matter of degrees. Ya think?

Realgirls4me
07-16-2008, 01:04 AM
Wow, the ubiquitous Tom Moore ain't too well liked, is he? He is in second place right now and only trails a man being bottomed by a single vote. Imagine that, an actor so despised that he might actually be considered the biggest turn-off in porn today? Hee-hee.



... Hey, I made it to the 4000 post club and no one said a thing. Where's my HA blazer? :(

hondarobot
07-16-2008, 01:18 AM
Wow, the ubiquitous Tom Moore ain't too well liked, is he? He is in second place right now and only trails a man being bottomed by a single vote. Imagine that, an actor so despised that he might actually be considered the biggest turn-off in porn today? Hee-hee.



... Hey, I made it to the 4000 post club and no one said a thing. Where's my HA blazer? :(

I believe the blazers are all gone, although I have no way of confirming this. Once you hit 10,000 posts the rumor is you get a fez. Kelly has one, but she stuck it up her bootie and lost it.

:)

Anthony_Sydney
07-16-2008, 01:40 AM
Hate seeing GG's in Trans movies. If I wanted to see a GG being fucked I'd buy a hetro movie! Geez they make them about 1000 to 1 over transgender movies.

The other is pretty much a "star fish" who just lies thier looking bored with the whole process.

tsluva
07-16-2008, 01:40 AM
tg4me,

I get what you're saying and totally understand the fantasy you just laid out (Thank you), but I think I had the most basic "natural" boy/girl sex involved, and the issues linked specifically to them. I see what you just laid out for me as more of a sub-genre, but I obviously could be wrong. ...I thought of the old Dana Douglass, Lony Brown scenes, in which they never topped (I don't think they did) when I initially posted this. I think most hetero males still view a TS woman as a woman, and therefore assign all the roles and behaviors to them that one would assign to a GG, hence why possibly so many are turned off by seeing a man being topped by a beautiful woman.

Yes, a real dick on a pretty girl. I get it and totally see where you are coming from. I guess it's a matter of degrees. Ya think?

Dana Douglass, Lony Brown couldn't top because they weren't functional.
Most big name, frequent TS porn stars have been involved in versatile
roles and there's only a very small handful of them that were not
known to be versatile on camera.

shifty
07-16-2008, 04:50 AM
I could do with a lot less spitting

Nowhere
07-16-2008, 06:27 AM
I just want to verbalize my answer, which was "too much male bottoming."

I really don't understand how you can have entire series which are ALL male bottoming (like the tgirlweddings one, which completely ruined a great idea, for me) but not entire series which are all male tops. To be perfectly honest, I always fast-forward past those scenes or completely skip them, if that's possible.

While I do think the guys who prefer the male bottom scenes are the loudest, don't confuse the loudest being the majority of people into tporn.

I really think you'll get a lot more customers / sales if you actually give this a try.

Jakovasaur
07-16-2008, 06:29 AM
I'm tired of seeing hairy ass brazilian dudes gettin boned. So too much male bottoming get's my vote!

cam22001
07-16-2008, 06:57 AM
Realgirls4me, thanks for your efforts to make actual change/ improvement.

I've already voted. Two points you may want to add: 1) ERECTION of the TS which is the common trait of all super stars, 2) To have the model start saying No needing a little persuasion before relenting ).

My recipe for a good movie: Have a potent and horny TS model be with whomever she prefers, male or female, as top or bottom, and then leave them alone to do as they please!

Realgirls4me
07-16-2008, 07:59 AM
Realgirls4me, thanks for your efforts to make actual change/ improvement.

I've already voted. Two points you may want to add: 1) ERECTION of the TS which is the common trait of all super stars, 2) To have the model start saying No needing a little persuasion before relenting ).

My recipe for a good movie: Have a potent and horny TS model be with whomever she prefers, male or female, as top or bottom, and then leave them alone to do as they please!

Well, it's not the most scientific poll out there, and I certainly blew it by originally not providing a more comprehensive list of choices of the things that irk people in here about TS porn.

I figured with all the people we have here (Buddy, Sean, Allanah, et all) who are actually involved in the production of TS porn, that maybe we posters could arrive at some consensus of one or two items that really bug us about TS porn, and that that consensus would pay dividends somewhere down the future. The poll is obviously very general to say the least, but I am kind of shocked at finding just how many here don't care for Tom Moore. Wow! And it does appear that many here feel as I do and don't care for seeing males being topped by attractive women in their porn. Interesting.

Producing TS porn has to be the hardest thing to do given all the preferences involved, and we all know we can't please everyone, but if we can get these producers to at least look, and then get rid of something as simple and insignificant as faux jizz, then it was worth it. Getting rid of Tom Moore might be harder, though. :)

... I really like the idea of the hard-to-get girl who eventually is persuaded to have sex. That tease angle, if done right, has a lot of potential. I wonder why more producers don't do that?

Someone needs to start a good poll on what we'd like to see in TS porn! :)

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 08:09 AM
Don't fear - we're reading this. We're always interested in market research but it's a hard thing trying to keep everyone happy which is why we're trying to tailor different sites to different tastes or in the case of our larger sites, the new database allows you to search for what type of porn you want; ie; male topping tgirl.

gunn
07-16-2008, 08:12 AM
You know what i want to see
im also thinking about an all TG orgy,what yha think seanchai

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 08:14 AM
bobstgirls, shemaleyum, frankstgirlword, all have the hottest trans girls out there, but almost zero hardcore content. why? is it a money thing? shemaleyum and franks throw us a bone every now and then, but bobstgirls has none. zero new hardcore content. why am i paying 30-35 a month for just solo vids and pictures?
We don't throw you bone ... Shemale Yum updates weekly and every second update has a full hardcore scene with US models in it - usually one of the top models or a hot newbie (see Malynda this week). Why can't we show more than that, at over $1600 per production (that's the low side) it's financially unfeasable for that site. We are looking at other sites which may feature full hardcore
Take a look at hardcore-shemale-video.com - this is a bargain for the amount of full length, full hardcore scenes and although it's both Brazilian, Asian and American - the quality and quantity should easily make up for it.


and why is it that a popular gg star like, say, sasha grey, has done HUNDREDS of scenes, while arguably the most popular 'new' tranny porn star, khloe hart, as done less than 10?


The money just isn't there. We've shot Khloe numerous times (more than any other company) but the sales just aren't there. That's why we're not even able to contract a model.

seanchai

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 08:15 AM
I'd like to see more seens with two guys and a shemale. Where the guy also have sex with each other in addition to sex with the shemale. I've seen a few scenes like this involving Alexia Freire and two guys as well as Karol Braziol where she is with about 5 guys. Very hot seeing guys get so turned on by shemales that they start fucking and blowing each other.

That's a bisexual scene and although I welcome your feedback, that really wouldn't sell well with the majority of TS porn surfers.

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 08:15 AM
I went for Too much male bottoming of course. I rent tgirl porn so the tgirls can be girls, not boys!

Then rent Buddy Wood DVD's - zero bottoming by guys.
Get them online at http://www.groobyvod.com

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 08:17 AM
I still don't get all the fake jizz thing? It's tied for third right now with the not enough focusing on the girls beauty option. Is it when the camera breaks away from the girl's cock just as she is about to fire, and then returns to find gobs of some Elmer's glue like solution on her tummy? Or, is it when the girl is blowing a guy and already has some kind of semen-like fluid in her mouth placed in between edits and it starts to flow down her chin just as the receiver fakes an orgasm?

Is it just the look of fake jizz? WHAT?

I can't believe so many find that so annoying? I kind of see it as just a bad prop. I guess it's how they utilize it to me. If it is so obvious, yes, get rid of scenes like that.

Explain, y'all. :)

Never done in any productions that we've done as far as I know. The one photographer who did do it, we dumped.

gunn
07-16-2008, 08:17 AM
I think if a girls got a dick then let her use it,if not get a gg.But thats just me.

Realgirls4me
07-16-2008, 08:18 AM
Don't fear - we're reading this. We're always interested in market research but it's a hard thing trying to keep everyone happy which is why we're trying to tailor different sites to different tastes or in the case of our larger sites, the new database allows you to search for what type of porn you want; ie; male topping tgirl.

Sean,

I wonder if there is a more accurate way to measure customer tastes and satisfaction?

Maybe a postage free buyer feedback card enclosed in the DVD itself will give you some feel for what people want or don't care for?

I know you don't do it, but please never think of including gay trailers in TS videos. What are some thinking?! Sheesh! I should have included that as one of the choices. Grrrrrr...

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 08:18 AM
While I do think the guys who prefer the male bottom scenes are the loudest, don't confuse the loudest being the majority of people into tporn.


Because the guys who like to watch guys getting fucked are the loudest complainers - your right. Speak up. Say what you want to say - buy Buddy Wood movies!

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 08:19 AM
You know what i want to see
im also thinking about an all TG orgy,what yha think seanchai

It could only happen in Brazil - and Brazilian porn is over-saturated - I just don't think it's financially feasable for tgirl porn.

gunn
07-16-2008, 08:22 AM
You know what i want to see
im also thinking about an all TG orgy,what yha think seanchai

It could only happen in Brazil - and Brazilian porn is over-saturated - I just don't think it's financially feasable for tgirl porn.

story of my life
but why you say only in BRAZIL?

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 08:29 AM
Sean,

I wonder if there is a more accurate way to measure customer tastes and satisfaction?

Maybe a postage free buyer feedback card enclosed in the DVD itself will give you some feel for what people want or don't care for?


We're pretty much measuring it off our websites and not the DVD's which is a rapidly dying business. Although we will continue to release DVD's and have two amazing ones in the works, we're cutting back to concentrate on the websites mainly - we have tracking in this on what people look at and if you look at the new black tgirls site, you can see we have rating and comments on every model (and soon set and video).

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 08:30 AM
You know what i want to see
im also thinking about an all TG orgy,what yha think seanchai

It could only happen in Brazil - and Brazilian porn is over-saturated - I just don't think it's financially feasable for tgirl porn.

story of my life
but why you say only in BRAZIL?

... because the Brazilians would do it. Getting Tgirls in USA in an orgy together - apart from the cost, would just be near impossible to do with any heat.

gunn
07-16-2008, 08:32 AM
You know what i want to see
im also thinking about an all TG orgy,what yha think seanchai

It could only happen in Brazil - and Brazilian porn is over-saturated - I just don't think it's financially feasable for tgirl porn.

story of my life
but why you say only in BRAZIL?

... because the Brazilians would do it. Getting Tgirls in USA in an orgy together - apart from the cost, would just be near impossible to do with any heat.

I understand.Im gonna get a camera and go off to BRAZIL and make my own shit,im not that far anyway!

Realgirls4me
07-16-2008, 08:34 AM
Sean,

I wonder if there is a more accurate way to measure customer tastes and satisfaction?

Maybe a postage free buyer feedback card enclosed in the DVD itself will give you some feel for what people want or don't care for?


We're pretty much measuring it off our websites and not the DVD's which is a rapidly dying business.

Really? Almost all of my porn is purchased through the DVD format, and it is rare -- RARE -- to see a TS dvd last beyond a week at the book store I have frequented. They seem to move well in other words. The last site I belonged to was Planet Shemale some five years ago. Are you saying the trend now favors on-line sites over DVD sales or what?

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 09:26 AM
Really? Almost all of my porn is purchased through the DVD format, and it is rare -- RARE -- to see a TS dvd last beyond a week at the book store I have frequented. They seem to move well in other words. The last site I belonged to was Planet Shemale some five years ago. Are you saying the trend now favors on-line sites over DVD sales or what?

... but how many times does that book store restock the same DVD? Hardly ever for most places, they just get the new content for the next month.
Look at it like this. A DVD costs something like $15k to produce (a 5 scene American hardcore DVD) - this would include model fees, shooter fees, printing, packaging, etc. This doesn't include advertising.

You need a distributor to get them into the stores. The distributor wholesales them at between $6-$15 per title depending on how many the retailer buys (most are bought from people like General Video who then put them in their stores and nickel and dime you on the price). The distributor takes 30% of that sale. Usually in the first month 500 go out the door with the distributor buy say the average price they're getting for them is $12 (high) thats only $6000 back in - and then they take their cut of $2000. The next month is usually only a hundred or so of the title ... and then it dwindles off although to be fair, some of our original titles still sell a few a month after 6 yrs.

We sell DVD's online through our own outlet http://www.shemale-video-direct - directly to customers which is why I urge anyone buying porn if they can to deal directly with the producers as we need that income to keep it viable. We also sell through groobyvod.com and places like AEBN for on demand. It takes a year for a title to break even.

We continue to sell DVD's as everyone which goes out, or is rented, contains advertising for our sites.

Now a website on the other hand, is cheaper and easier to get to the masses, there is no physical product to produce and although our affiliates (retailers in the real world) take a whopping 50% of the sale, that only accounts for about 30% of our business. The majority of the website sale - goes directly to us. Of course, we still have overheads to pay and it's getting more and more expensive to run a secure, exclusive update but we reach 10,000's of people a year with it.

The days of DVD's are numbered. Why, when you can download high quality direct to your hard drive - or when for the price of a DVD, you can get a months access to a site with a lot more than 5 scenes, would people continue to buy the product?
I used to buy movies on DVD - I now get from netflix for under $20 a month.
I used to buy CD's - I can now download them directly to my ipod or hard drive.

seanchai

Realgirls4me
07-16-2008, 09:36 AM
Wow, thanks for the breakdown, Sean. I see what you mean as far as not concentrating on the DVD format.


Hey, I know that I blew it by not offering a more comprehensive list of choices in this "poll", and it isn't scientific to be of any serious use, but does it surprise you at all on what's leading this poll here? I can kind of see the guys getting bottomed thing, but all the despise for Tom Moore ??? Can you believe that? I don't care to see the guy also, but I never thought it would lead as it has. Wow!

By the way, thanks for the 411 on Buddy's productions. That's good to know.

DJ_Asia
07-16-2008, 02:31 PM
I have done the TS tirfecta,having shot in the US,Brasil and Thailand,and occasionally Singapore for shits and giggles.Im currently on pace to do 250 unique shoots this year alone...and yup im fucking tired!
Each of these regions presents a unique and different set of obstacles and opportunities to achieve a particular scene...for example the Brasilian girls are down for pretty much whatever,but ya can never get them to stop saying "Gustozo",then here in Thailand the girls arent exactly what I would define as natural born performers,and often times I spend more time coaching and explaining to the models then I do shooting.

Each producer has his/her own style,things that like to incorporate into a scene and things that dont like at all.For me porn is most enjoyable when its believable,and its quite obvious the girl is into what she's doing on film,therefor I tend not to push the limits of a specific model,unless of course I know shes game.

Having read some of the replies its quite obvious to anyone reading this thread that no matter what we do,someone isnt gonna like it...one guy wants to see guys bottoming,while the next dude hates it....as th ancient Chinese proverb goes "If ya cant please everyone so just please yourself."

Then of course of youre still not happy with the porn out there you can always quit your day job,invest tens of thousands of dollars on equipment,secure a distribution deal and go make them yourself....

LeesaCD
07-16-2008, 03:15 PM
Umm, coupla things that weren't on the list:

---> dubbed speech/sex noises
---> brazilian vocal (I hate settling into a relaxed wanking position to hear "muchos, muchos, aye, aye")
---> lack of latex without domination. It's sexy on its own!


I really prefer english TS topping guys. (I don;t just mean english speaking either). There seems to to be a massive shortage of British TS porn.

Hats off to Joanna Jet.

hondarobot
07-16-2008, 04:35 PM
Hmmm, it appears that Tom Moore getting fucked in the ass is the least appealing porn scenario, according to this poll, thus far.

DirtySouth
07-16-2008, 05:30 PM
I am kinda surprised about the results of the poll. I run an affiliate site for TS porn and also I am a producer for Grooby Productions, so Im out there filming constantly.

What surprises me is that most of yall dont want to see males bottoming as much. This is almost a given in a TS porn scene. Whats the point of a girl having the equipment if she's not gonna use it? Most of the paying customers would probably disagree, but I think if most productions were to rid themselves of male bottoming, it may pose a problem in sales or at least get some complaints. I like to capture versatile scenes myself.

My personal pet peeve is music. It usually ruins the porn. Not everyone likes the same type of music. I saw a hot scene on Shemale-Club but the salsa music that blasted through the whole scene was a big turn off. I think if you have music in the intro, its great. During the actual scene though, its distracting. Sometimes music is added to spice up a scene where a performer may be doing a shitty job acting or even when there may be a technical problem when with the sound when it was originally recorded.

Mac_Hine
07-16-2008, 05:33 PM
We don't throw you bone ... Shemale Yum updates weekly and every second update has a full hardcore scene with US models in it - usually one of the top models or a hot newbie (see Malynda this week). Why can't we show more than that, at over $1600 per production (that's the low side) it's financially unfeasable for that site. We are looking at other sites which may feature full hardcore
Take a look at hardcore-shemale-video.com - this is a bargain for the amount of full length, full hardcore scenes and although it's both Brazilian, Asian and American - the quality and quantity should easily make up for it.

seanchai

shemaleyum updates so often and with so many different models, i don't know, personally i'd like to see less models and more quality hardcore stuff. i checked out hardcore-shemale-video.com and while it some of the scenes looks hot, it seems like mostly older stuff from different sites and dvds. :\
and dude, half of the shemaleyum hardcore scenes from this year were already on that 'las vegas shemales' dvd :(

do you guys keep stats on your most downloaded videos/pic sets? can you release that info? maybe take some of the money you're were paying the less popular models and put it towards the more popular ones, just an idea. :idea:

an example would be devon delirium. i've seem some of the pics you've posted of her upcoming set, you know she's gonna be a popular, she'll definitely help sell subscriptions, why not divert more of the budget towards her?

i guess my point is less filler, more quality. shemaleyum is actually one the few sites i've been satisfied with after my purchase. most left me feeling ripped off.

and tom moore is a disgrace :P

Realgirls4me
07-16-2008, 09:48 PM
I am kinda surprised about the results of the poll. I run an affiliate site for TS porn and also I am a producer for Grooby Productions, so Im out there filming constantly.

What surprises me is that most of yall dont want to see males bottoming as much. This is almost a given in a TS porn scene. Whats the point of a girl having the equipment if she's not gonna use it? Most of the paying customers would probably disagree, but I think if most productions were to rid themselves of male bottoming, it may pose a problem in sales or at least get some complaints. I like to capture versatile scenes myself.

My personal pet peeve is music. It usually ruins the porn. Not everyone likes the same type of music. I saw a hot scene on Shemale-Club but the salsa music that blasted through the whole scene was a big turn off. I think if you have music in the intro, its great. During the actual scene though, its distracting. Sometimes music is added to spice up a scene where a performer may be doing a shitty job acting or even when there may be a technical problem when with the sound when it was originally recorded.

On the bottoming thing it all comes down to perspective and preference. The majority -- at least in this unscientific poll -- I believe view TS women as WOMEN period, and so it's a turn-off to see them fucking a man -- they start to revert to males at this point in my view and it totally shatters whatever illusion I've applied to her or my fantasies. Women, in your typical boy/girl scenes receive cock in the majority of mainstream porn, so why should it be any different here? I for one paid to see a girl's great looks, but also the roles and behaviors ascribed to any beautiful WOMAN in a porn scene. If a guy is going to get fucked in the DVD, they should list it so I won't buy it.

Music is okay as long as it doesn't usurp the sound of the woman moaning, shrieking, talking, getting slammed, or screaming. Most music in scenes suck because it is just too loud.

GroobySteven
07-16-2008, 10:13 PM
shemaleyum updates so often and with so many different models, i don't know, personally i'd like to see less models and more quality hardcore stuff.

That's true, it's not a hardcore site - that's not it's agenda. The amount of different models is it's strength.


i checked out hardcore-shemale-video.com and while it some of the scenes looks hot, it seems like mostly older stuff from different sites and dvds. :\
Yep, it's remastered from our other sites and DVD's (much of it never seen on the web before), a compilation site and for those into just hardcore shemale video - then I think it's the best value for money.



and dude, half of the shemaleyum hardcore scenes from this year were already on that 'las vegas shemales' dvd :(

See my breakdown of DVD sales above and you'll see why this is the direction we'll be going - the scenes will premier on the websites ... and then on DVD. It's often two different customers.



do you guys keep stats on your most downloaded videos/pic sets? can you release that info?
Yes we keep it but we wouldn't release it - we get ripped off by practically every other site as it is so I don't want to share our proprietry info.



maybe take some of the money you're were paying the less popular models and put it towards the more popular ones....

... devon delirium...you know she's gonna be a popular, she'll definitely help sell subscriptions, why not divert more of the budget towards her?

....less filler, more quality. shemaleyum is actually one the few sites i've been satisfied with after my purchase. most left me feeling ripped off.


No no - we don't have any filler. The lovely Devon (posted below) will most certainly not be everyones idea of a popular model (she may be yours and my taste) - different people are into different things. We never shoot any models as fillers, we shoot models and if they turn out to be popular, reshoot with them and work with them many times. Our new system (as mentioned) will allow us better access to see who the more popular models are. We've dropped all S.american content which we tried for a while on the site sporadically but it wasn't too popular and are now shooting only N.American and European girls for Shemale Yum. The point is, unless we tried these models, we wouldn't know who was the most popular - and often we only have a handful of photos to go on prior to the shoot.

Thanks for all the feedback - I do read it all and I can understand what your looking for, which seems to be a mostly hardcore American/European tgirl website .... maybe I'll have to come up with one that caters to those needs!
seanchai


http://shemaleyum.com/shemale/preview2008/devon_deliriumgom/devon_deliriumgom004.jpg

cam22001
07-16-2008, 11:56 PM
I've already voted. Two points you may want to add: 1) ERECTION of the TS which is the common trait of all super stars, 2) To have the model start saying No needing a little persuasion before relenting ).

My recipe for a good movie: Have a potent and horny TS model be with whomever she prefers, male or female, as top or bottom, and then leave them alone to do as they please![/quote]


Well, it's not the most scientific poll out there, and I certainly blew it by originally not providing a more comprehensive list of choices of the things that irk people in here about TS porn.

I figured with all the people we have here (Buddy, Sean, Allanah, et all) who are actually involved in the production of TS porn, that maybe we posters could arrive at some consensus of one or two items that really bug us about TS porn, and that that consensus would pay dividends somewhere down the future. The poll is obviously very general to say the least, but I am kind of shocked at finding just how many here don't care for Tom Moore. Wow! And it does appear that many here feel as I do and don't care for seeing males being topped by attractive women in their porn. Interesting.

Producing TS porn has to be the hardest thing to do given all the preferences involved, and we all know we can't please everyone, but if we can get these producers to at least look, and then get rid of something as simple and insignificant as faux jizz, then it was worth it. Getting rid of Tom Moore might be harder, though. :)

... I really like the idea of the hard-to-get girl who eventually is persuaded to have sex. That tease angle, if done right, has a lot of potential. I wonder why more producers don't do that?

Someone needs to start a good poll on what we'd like to see in TS porn!

Don't sell it short, actually it's quite good for a first draft. Nobody else should do it. This is YOUR contribution and if I were you I'd walk it to the end. Especially since you have a receptive ear in Seanchai.

It might prove more accurate if 1) each pet-peeve had three options of Mild dislike to disgust. (Perhaps not possible in this forum!) and 2) there were open slots for members to insert their own.
Good luck

adoretchicks
07-17-2008, 01:03 AM
Hi all, new here from the UK and just to add my bit...

IMO the whole thing has gotten far to formulaic, (TS) girl meets guy, girl sucks cock, girl shows ass, shows cock, gets fucked in said ass, does reverse cowgirl, does the position I don't know the name of (with guy on his side behind girl who is getting fucked with legs spread and cock exposed), guy comes in girls face after many cuts/edits due to guy not being able to cum.

Every single scene is the same, lets have some variety!

Oh, and why not have models with a bit of meat on them, the feminine form has a higher fat/muscle ratio than male, I don't wanna see skinny as hell models with no ass and ABS like a situp champ (BTW I DO think the pic above is hot!) I'm not talking heffalump here, but I'd rather see 7lbs overweight than under TBH.

One more thing, most of us like TS's because they dress/look like girls, lets keep some clothes on them and not strip away that femininity.

Tnaks for listening, that was great.

Realgirls4me
07-17-2008, 07:10 AM
Want fries with that?

Want fries with that?

Want fries with that?

Want fries with that?








(Overheard from the mouth of Tom Moore some time in the near future.) ;)

macfan
07-26-2008, 01:58 PM
I went for Too much male bottoming of course. I rent tgirl porn so the tgirls can be girls, not boys!

Then rent Buddy Wood DVD's - zero bottoming by guys.
Get them online at http://www.groobyvod.com

And thanks for the heads up Seanchai will definitely check them out to see if they fit my taste and style

macfan
07-26-2008, 02:00 PM
Way, way, way too much male bottoming for my taste is what kills many videos for me. That is why I only look at series where that is excluded. You of course often find some videos where the scenes are mixed, in that case I just skip over any male bottoming scenes.

We all have our own desires but seeing some guy bent over and getting it up his bum ala poofter style is not appealing to me. I'm attracted to transsexual women for their femininity and that includes in bed as well, so yes I like to see Tgirls getting fucked. Nothing feminine about her fucking some hairy arse character.

dbev
07-26-2008, 02:35 PM
Too much camera movement (Equilibrium is in!)
Music (Get rid of it, or make it less pronounced)
Fake jizz
Pull Aways (Just as the girl is seemingly coming)
Background talking by those not involved in the scene
Not getting shots of the girl's physical beauty
Absence or inadequate cunnilingus
Inadequate real fun

tsluva
07-26-2008, 06:08 PM
I did not vote because you left out too many things I dislike.
I prefer not to see any male tops
no ghetto culture,bling, music, white or black
no girls with big boobs or big butts,big lips
no face shots
no comedy in my porn
no silly costumes like santa
no toilet sex
no uncut if possible
If I pick up a box and see any of the above i'll put it back 90% of the time.

i'd put it back when i see it's going to be solo masturbation,
all tgirl-bottom. you can probably forget no uncut tgirl-cocks. that would even be 98% of all the girls! i think Vicky Richter & Nerfeti maybe the only uncut ts star out there right now. i've never to have a sex-scene in a pool either. Nuthin beats a facial cum shot or cumming in the mouth. scene!
that's another reason why i love Robert Hill Releasing and Avalon vids, they display that (facial/mouth cum shots) a lot. With the other's Its been more chest/breast, belly cum shots than ever.

Xenicity
07-26-2008, 06:42 PM
I just looked again at Tranny a Go-Go, Attack of the 50 foot Shemale etc. Don't you miss Shemale movies with a semblance of a plot? How about dialog that is NOT Portuguese and involves something besides "Aiyee" repeated over and over and over? Many of the major Transgender figures in the country today such as Allanah, Brandy Scott are capable of major acting (they already do it as a business!) and carrying some sort of a plot line and story. Why not let them do it?

Xenicity

tsluva
07-26-2008, 09:02 PM
Don't fear - we're reading this. We're always interested in market research but it's a hard thing trying to keep everyone happy which is why we're trying to tailor different sites to different tastes or in the case of our larger sites, the new database allows you to search for what type of porn you want; ie; male topping tgirl.

i think you're right in that producers/directors tend to play it close by
ear to get a interest clue on what consumers will like to see.
but i thought i once heard you say that most producers/director
are going to produce ts-porn on what THEY personally would like to see.

i was once told by email from one ts-porn producing studio that they
do keep researching from various sources in finding out what the
customers like and make then their videos accordingly.

tsluva
07-27-2008, 02:44 AM
I am kinda surprised about the results of the poll. I run an affiliate site for TS porn and also I am a producer for Grooby Productions, so Im out there filming constantly.

What surprises me is that most of yall dont want to see males bottoming as much. This is almost a given in a TS porn scene. Whats the point of a girl having the equipment if she's not gonna use it? Most of the paying customers would probably disagree, but I think if most productions were to rid themselves of male bottoming, it may pose a problem in sales or at least get some complaints. I like to capture versatile scenes myself.

My personal pet peeve is music. It usually ruins the porn. Not everyone likes the same type of music. I saw a hot scene on Shemale-Club but the salsa music that blasted through the whole scene was a big turn off. I think if you have music in the intro, its great. During the actual scene though, its distracting. Sometimes music is added to spice up a scene where a performer may be doing a shitty job acting or even when there may be a technical problem when with the sound when it was originally recorded.

I also agree and think that the overall sales in ts-porn ( which is on the rise more than ever !) would dip and hurt to a new low if the tgirl-topping would be taken out of ts-porn. There is a reason why you see far more tgirls topping than ever in trannie DVDs. It’s been in heavy demand than many realize.
The poll results is a bit surprise to me as well but I see it only as entertainment value, as I know that this is not at all accurate to the mass that wants to see girls-topping. I visit several adult video stores local stores frequently and I know the ts-tops rent/buy out off the shelves more quickly than the ts-bottom and solo action tgirl vids.

In fact I’d be willing to bet that if there was a TS video that emphasize 100% All tgirl topping vs 100% all Tgirl bottoming , the tops would win it in a landslide. This reminds of me of the earlier versions of Sunshine Film Productions (which also produced trannie videos) and Shemale Samba Mania series (which is one of the longest running ts-video series around) both were primarily all-girl bottom for awhile from the start but apparently more & more demands grew for more versatile/girl on top scenes and they began to change their style and format so to speak.

Of course we know how Silvera, Devil Films, Avalon, Robert Hill, Bob’s Tgirls, Gia Darling, etc. began setting and pushing the standard bar over the years until even the likes of Tom Byron, Jake Steed and Nachos Vidal started producing TS vids. And oh, boy! that’s when I really knew for sure that the TS porn industry was booming and sky rocketing to new heights as never seen before. And that’s only the American producers. Like them or not, the limitless amount Brazilian TS films that have been on the rise have greatly helped raise the interest of TS porn in my opinion.

Niccolo
08-27-2008, 03:07 AM
Personally I like seeing versatile girls in Tgirl porn. It seems the height of bad manners if you expect your partner to take it anally, but you won't return the favour! Why not let her have a good time too?

westxgrrl
08-27-2008, 05:08 PM
There's not enough good story lines, foreplay, gurls in sexy outfits teasing, setting the stage with exciting situations and scenarios, that sort of thing leading up to the hardcore stuff. Getting there is half the fun.

MrShow52
08-27-2008, 06:23 PM
more post ops. Also less of that bald guy (is that tom moore?) He's really annoying and I usually stop watching any porn he's in, especially when they start to fuck him. Also male bottoming always sucks, mainly because dudes are ugly, at least the ones who haven't gotten plastic surgery to look like women.

lazyman
08-27-2008, 07:44 PM
I don't really understand the hatred for Tom Moore (except maybe envy of his having fucked probably about 60% of the entire global population of shemales). Other than that, I agree with everything on the list - get rid of them all!

MrShow52
08-27-2008, 08:24 PM
he just looks super gay. I'd rather a kind of straight looking guy, I feel like I'm watching gay porn when he's around, he probably does gay porn when not doing ts stuff

Realgirls4me
08-27-2008, 10:29 PM
Okay, okay, so it seems after some 200 votes in this unscientific survey, my initial ruminations and suspicions on the subject of what is wrong with much of TS porn today are just as I suspected.

Removing the ubiquitous Tom Moore out of the equation is easy enough to do, so he's not really a factor here. What is confirmed is that the next two highest selections basically come down to just as I had suspected:
Most here want to see little or no male bottoming, with the next highest (my first pick) being that not enough of the woman's physical beauty and attributes are showcased or flaunted BEFORE the fuck/suck scenes takes place. Where's the tease for the viewer's imagination and libido to marinate in? ... I never got all the votes over the fake jizz. I would have thought that most would find fake orgasms more troubling than fake jizz.

Carry on. :)

macfan
08-27-2008, 11:00 PM
(my first pick) being that not enough of the woman's physical beauty and attributes are showcased or flaunted BEFORE the fuck/suck scenes takes place. Where's the tease for the viewer's imagination and libido to marinate in? ...
:)

Its like they have a limited amount of time or something and just rush right into the scenes, no tension buildups, no appreciation for the physical beauty of the girl, just the ubiquitous you do me (i.e. male bottoming, not my cup of tea followed by now I do you or vice versa. I have encountered few videos where the girl and guy stare each other down with a sense of lust and desire, licking their lips, rubbing the genitals just building up the moment when they finally come into contact. :)

That's why I only get certain few select series when it comes to porn and the rest of the stuff has no interest to me. If a certain series has the qualities I enjoy I will get just that. The rest just puts me to sleep at the comp.

Realgirls4me
08-27-2008, 11:24 PM
(my first pick) being that not enough of the woman's physical beauty and attributes are showcased or flaunted BEFORE the fuck/suck scenes takes place. Where's the tease for the viewer's imagination and libido to marinate in? ...
:)

Its like they have a limited amount of time or something and just rush right into the scenes, no tension buildups, no appreciation for the physical beauty of the girl, just the ubiquitous you do me (i.e. male bottoming, not my cup of tea followed by now I do you or vice versa. I have encountered few videos where the girl and guy stare each other down with a sense of lust and desire, licking their lips, rubbing the genitals just building up the moment when they finally come into contact. :)

That's why I only get certain few select series when it comes to porn and the rest of the stuff has no interest to me. If a certain series has the qualities I enjoy I will get just that. The rest just puts me to sleep at the comp.

Which series showcases the girl's beauty (the tease, the tension build up, etc?)? It seems to me that it is almost by accident when this has occurred in a scene. :(

Realgirls4me
08-27-2008, 11:26 PM
Good poll, just to show I don't hold silly grudges.


Grudges??? Surely you jest? You're not in the position to hold a grudge. What you owe me is an apology. A big, detailed apology would possibly smooth things out between us.

rabidroyboy
08-27-2008, 11:37 PM
I did not vote because you left out too many things I dislike.
I prefer not to see any male tops
no ghetto culture,bling, music, white or black
no girls with big boobs or big butts,big lips
no face shots
no comedy in my porn
no silly costumes like santa
no toilet sex
no uncut if possible
If I pick up a box and see any of the above i'll put it back 90% of the time.

Santa costumes absolutely suck ass and die. No costume (police woman, nurse, etc.) can match sexy lingerie. And please, no hats.

And as other posters have stated, no music once the fucking starts or you can't hear the slurping and the bodies slapping together.

I like watching a girl talk into the camera before the sex scene starts and telling us a little about herself. I don't need a plot or a storyline to the movie.

macfan
08-28-2008, 12:49 PM
Which series showcases the girl's beauty (the tease, the tension build up, etc?)? It seems to me that it is almost by accident when this has occurred in a scene. :(

Absolutely none today. I remember the Transsexual Trio series used to open with the girls dancing seductively in some of those wicked Brazilian thongs, really showed their body off, before the guy would come into the scene and they started to seduce each other.

I was referencing that I buy just the series where guys are topping strictly and oh music in porn vids definitely blow. I want to hear the moans, skin slapping, slurping, etc.