Understanding men on the DL....

[SexxxyJade]

I read this today on another TS forum....
"On the DL....
Hello, I'm a 37 year old male that resides in Baltimore, Maryland. I'm seek to have that sexual encounter with a transexual who isn't in it for the money. I'm looking for the experience only since I am curious...but don't what to lose sight of the womenly features. No strings attached. Drop me a line... MUST BE IN BALTIMORE!!!"

Now could someone please help me understand this DL thing. I understand wanting privacy and a little discretion in your personal dealings, but how can a man on the DL, expect a girl to sleep with him just because. Most of us are escorts becuase men are too insecure, or just not man enough to accept what they like (TS), and just go with it. If your on the DL you should expect a girl to ask for a donation, being that you have nothing else to offer. You cant take us out, chances are we will only see you once or twice, for a late night booty call. How can you be married, or on the DL and expect to find a girl who is not an escort? Please help me understand this.
Me personally don't deal with any man who cant show me a good time and make me feel special. Rather it be taking me out, calling me just to say hi occasionally, or just openly being there when i need someone to talk to. Otherwise he can expect to be given my rate information. Am i wrong?

[tippinnottrippin]

No you are not wrong!!!
p.s. can i call you to say hi.
better yet can i cum over and say hi and cum over and over again
oh i'll donate. "$$$$$$$$"
You sexy thing i need new pics of you pm me. lol

[geekmeat]

I read this today on another TS forum....
"On the DL....
Hello, I'm a 37 year old male that resides in Baltimore, Maryland. I'm seek to have that sexual encounter with a transexual who isn't in it for the money. I'm looking for the experience only since I am curious...but don't what to lose sight of the womenly features. No strings attached. Drop me a line... MUST BE IN BALTIMORE!!!"

Now could someone please help me understand this DL thing. I understand wanting privacy and a little discretion in your personal dealings, but how can a man on the DL, expect a girl to sleep with him just because. Most of us are escorts becuase men are too insecure, or just not man enough to accept what they like (TS), and just go with it. If your on the DL you should expect a girl to ask for a donation, being that you have nothing else to offer. You cant take us out, chances are we will only see you once or twice, for a late night booty call. How can you be married, or on the DL and expect to find a girl who is not an escort? Please help me understand this.
Me personally don't deal with any man who cant show me a good time and make me feel special. Rather it be taking me out, calling me just to say hi occasionally, or just openly being there when i need someone to talk to. Otherwise he can expect to be given my rate information. Am i wrong?

No
But Jade......you are special........just look at that ass!
No but seriously I totally understand what your saying but my whole fear is that transexuals CANNOT remain faithful!.........regardless of WHO they are dating!
The question is can you remain faithful?
Can you stop escorting for that special someone?(come on!.....be for real about it)
Genetic girls do expect money for sex like that......why should you?

[Ecstatic]

I think you're spot on, Jada. I'm married, so I can't offer a girl a romantic relationship, but I can and do offer my friendship. If I saw you--even as an escort--and we "connected," believe me I would be there if you needed someone to talk to, or to call and chat with, or go out for a casual dinner. I've done all that and more with the few girls I've come to know well. And I don't mind a bit paying the girl's donation. If I designed or managed your website for you, I'd expect to be paid for my services, just as you should be paid for yours. If you truly hit it off with a guy and it goes beyond the escort thing, well, it's no longer a service, is it?

I think a lot of guys (often the same guys who bitch about high fees) who won't pony up or try to negotiate a "more favorable" rate don't know what they're losing. In my experience, if you get to know a girl, then the quality of experience goes way up, in proportion to how well you connect. I'm far from rich, and can only afford a "night out" once every couple of months, but I don't hold back when I do. I always bring a little gift, too. I want my girl to feel special, even if I'm paying for a "service." And it comes back: for instance, there's one girl I've known a long time, who I've gone out to dinner with a couple of times after our session. And guess what? She INSISTED that she pay! She wouldn't let me take my wallet out.

Take care of the good girls, guys. I don't know Jade, but I'm 100% sure she's one of the them.

[geekmeat]

By the way.......
your preview videos on your website are HOT AS FUCK!
They are the best ones ive EVER seen!
Im thinking about joining your site.
You so freaky!!!!

[SexxxyJade]

No you are not wrong!!!
p.s. can i call you to say hi.
better yet can i cum over and say hi and cum over and over again
oh i'll donate. "$$$$$$$$"
You sexy thing i need new pics of you pm me. lol

Sure you can call me babe, i get bored on tour in these hotels sometimes, woukdn't mind the convo.

[SexxxyJade]

I read this today on another TS forum....
"On the DL....
Hello, I'm a 37 year old male that resides in Baltimore, Maryland. I'm seek to have that sexual encounter with a transexual who isn't in it for the money. I'm looking for the experience only since I am curious...but don't what to lose sight of the womenly features. No strings attached. Drop me a line... MUST BE IN BALTIMORE!!!"

Now could someone please help me understand this DL thing. I understand wanting privacy and a little discretion in your personal dealings, but how can a man on the DL, expect a girl to sleep with him just because. Most of us are escorts becuase men are too insecure, or just not man enough to accept what they like (TS), and just go with it. If your on the DL you should expect a girl to ask for a donation, being that you have nothing else to offer. You cant take us out, chances are we will only see you once or twice, for a late night booty call. How can you be married, or on the DL and expect to find a girl who is not an escort? Please help me understand this.
Me personally don't deal with any man who cant show me a good time and make me feel special. Rather it be taking me out, calling me just to say hi occasionally, or just openly being there when i need someone to talk to. Otherwise he can expect to be given my rate information. Am i wrong?

No
But Jade......you are special........just look at that ass!
No but seriously I totally understand what your saying but my whole fear is that transexuals CANNOT remain faithful!.........regardless of WHO they are dating!
The question is can you remain faithful?
Can you stop escorting for that special someone?(come on!.....be for real about it)
Genetic girls do expect money for sex like that......why should you?

What do you mean Transexuals cant be faiithful, we can be faithful just as much as you can. I mean we are technically all men...deep down inside. But of course if i found that special someone i woudln't hesitate to stop escorting. I mean come on i wouldnt stop the next day after i met them, but as time progressed and feeling grew stronger, escorting would be history. Actually im in the process of making some major changes in my life. My website is doing great, and eventually i wanna creat other websites maybe featuring other girls etc.. All this is time cosuming so after next year ill probably only see regular clients. I go out on dates, I meet men outside of business all the time, in hopes that one day Mr. Freaky Wonderful will come sweep me off my feet and throw me on the bed head first....lol j/k. But I, just like any other Tgirl probably, would love to have someone special. And for that i would sacrafice it all.
P.S. Thanx for the compliment on my videos babe, I tend to go the extra mile at everything I do, and have been told by many that my previews are the best around. I promise to keep it coming Hotttt just like you like it baby.
ciao

[geekmeat]

So would you make a video with me?
That is if I met your expectations?
You have a wonderful muffin ass and wonderful dick sucking lips........I bet you have other wonderful things too..........

[SexxxyJade]

email mr your pics

[SexxxyJade]

me*

[castabyss]

Okay, it sounds like one of two things to me:

1) It's a guy who's familiar with the TS scene, but is playing innocent in the hopes someone will throw him a freebie.

Or

2) It's a guy who's NOT familiar with the scene that thinks any treans-gendered person will jump at the chance to help him with his curiousity because they're all testosterone addled nymphomaniacs.

Either way, it sounds kinda stupid.

[tsarielblue]

good topic Jade.

Well .. "down low" men cannot provide any of our immediate needs , but they expect us to cater to their immediate needs. Then they have demands. You must look good, dress sexy, and host for them.
That costs does it not?
Hair, nails, drinks, and the sexy outfit to greet them. Meanwhile they get to fulfill their fantasies, but where does that leave the ladies with on the receiving end?
I think this is more towards men in general, wih interests in transexuals. If they really like you and want to have a relationship with you, why ask about your measurements and whats your favorite sexual position? I would think that should be discuss later on in the dating process.

Men come to you asking all these sexual questions and expect us to take them seriously. Again why would they want a known Escort as a girlfriend? Seems fishy to me......

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

SMH @ this topic also...................

For the record, there is only ONE BEING in the Universe that can tell anyone what another individual is capable of........................

To say that a man can't provide something is a mistake just as it's safe to say a TS can't handle a relationship. Fact of the matter is, everyone is different, to sit here and combine ALL the brothas in a DL category is absurd, some are, some aren't.....................either way it's THEIR CHOICE. Trying to understand why they remain on the DL would be like them trying to understand why you paint ya nails..........................

[geekmeat]

good topic Jade.

Well .. "down low" men cannot provide any of our immediate needs , but they expect us to cater to their immediate needs. Then they have demands. You must look good, dress sexy, and host for them.
That costs does it not?
Hair, nails, drinks, and the sexy outfit to greet them. Meanwhile they get to fulfill their fantasies, but where does that leave the ladies with on the receiving end?
I think this is more towards men in general, wih interests in transexuals. If they really like you and want to have a relationship with you, why ask about your measurements and whats your favorite sexual position? I would think that should be discuss later on in the dating process.

Men come to you asking all these sexual questions and expect us to take them seriously. Again why would they want a known Escort as a girlfriend? Seems fishy to me......

OMG!!!
Thank you so much with gracing us with your posts.
I can believe its you!
From what I hear you are a really sweet girl............

[tsarielblue]

PROVIDING MEANING- DATES, DINNER, HANGING WITH FRIENDS, MEETING THE FAMILY... YOU KNOW A BOYFRIEND. IF THEY COULD PROVIDE, THEN THEY WOULD NOT BE CALLED DOWN LOW LOVE...
LETS STAY IN ONE PLACE SHALL WE :wink:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lol providing for this topic means what you stated, but in my reply it meant what I STATED..........................love

as far as the topic, it can & probably will lead off course as these topics usually do

p.s. welcome to the board

[SexxxyJade]

Welll funny as it may seem, most men are attracted to us mainly on a sexual basis. But from my experience Ive learned that they also like us becuase we are alot more understanding than GG's and they dont have to go thru all the motions when dealong with us, at least tthey feel like they dont have to. Men feel comfortable asking us openly about sex, our sizes, favorite positions, etc. whereas a GG would flip out so they dont even think to go there with theml TS make men feel at ease, comfortable, they feel like they don't have to "court" us, and go thru all the steps it takes to mount a genetic girl.
Sad but true

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lol, TS' dont get a monthly aggravation
another reason yall are easy to talk to

[tsarielblue]

JOHNNYWALKERBLACKLABEL- THANKS LOVE. UNDERSTOOD :wink:

SEXYJADE- SAD RIGHT? THEY FEEL SINCE WE ARE NOT "GENETICS" , THE COURTSHIP IS BYPASSED. I KNOW OF ALOT OF LADIES THAT STILL "FOOL" STRAIGHT MEN JUST TO EXPERIENCE THE ROMANTIC "COURTSHIP" . ONCE THEY FOUND OUT WE WERE TS OR ESCORTS, ALL WENT OUT THE WINDOW....

[tsarielblue]

WE DO GET THE SYMPTOMS JOHHNYWALKER...EVERY MONTH! :lol:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

nah you don't

not even close

lol, not even in Flushing *wink*

[SexxxyJade]

lol, TS' dont get a monthly aggravation
another reason yall are easy to talk to

We may not get the monthly aggrevation, but you try walking around all day with ya 8 inch cock tucked and strappped all the way back bettween ya legs. You try squeezing ya size 8 men feet into a narrow size 10 laidies shoe, with a pointed heel and walk around all day everyday. You try taking all kinds of medicines that make your hormones go 200 percent over the avg ( again everyday). You try goinh through all kinds of surgical procedures and recovcery over and over again, just to make yourself presentable enuff to call yourself a Lady. Try all this baby and then tell me that TS are easier to talk to becuse we have less aggrevation. If u ask me, Id rather have the monthly.

[Ecstatic]

What you said may well be part of the intense appeal of TS for so many of us guys: you girls have to go through so much to be the lady that you feel, and that commitment makes you sexy in a way that gg's can never be.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

A word to the wise ( transsexual woman)

*Note- YOU, is meant in plural terms.

1. Don't allow anyone to obejectify you- do it yourself. If a person views
you souly as a sexual fantasy, sexual object then u must be in control of that situation and either exploit it or choose otherwise. As a transsexual woman you have that power and believe me YOU hold the cards.

2. Fact-most men who are into this lifestyle are on the dl about it. So embrace, accept it, admit it to yourself and carry on. YOU do YOU. You became this person and chose this path to please you- NOT A MAN.

3. Don't let anyone sell you a house in the sky. I have certain rules and
and things that I am aware of when I am talking to a man. I use my sexual power to my benefit-If I want to exploit it, then it is my choice, and I have learned to do so without feeling bad about it. A lot of men think they are very smart and will come with the honesty card or play the I am looking for more than sex bit first, but you must be aware of those things and learn how to interpret them.

4. Expect nothing. With expectations only come let downs, people will always let you down if you expect something from them. Hope, live, and resolve. Wether your expectations were met or not, always resolve and move on.

5. Don't let any man with issues make you feel bad about yourself. If they can not accept themselves for who they like, if they are afraid to go out in public with you, if they want to only meet in doors for a booty call, if they cant deal THEN DON'T DEAL WITH THEM. Those are his issues and baggage- and if you encounter that baggage have him pack it up and send him on his way. You have spent too much time, money. sacrifice,
and who knows what else just to exists and function as a transsexual.
Don't let some fool who can't love you impede yourself from loving you.

[Reddman]

A word to the wise ( transsexual woman)

5. Don't let any man with issues make you feel bad about yourself. If they can not accept themselves for who they like, if they are afraid to go out in public with you, if they want to only meet in doors for a booty call, if they cant deal THEN DON'T DEAL WITH THEM. Those are his issues and baggage- and if you encounter that baggage have him pack it up and send him on his way. You have spent too much time, money. sacrifice,
and who knows what else just to exists and function as a transsexual.
Don't let some fool who can't love you impede yourself from loving you.

A great and vital point made by Ms. Starr. Sometimes it's a let down (okay yes it is a tranny sex board and all) to see so much rampart generalizing, narrow minded, limited/ no real life experience applied to issues re: she vs. he. Most times it just descends in to mudslinging diatribes. Admittedly both sides are quite capable of carrying hellva lot of baggage to the table.

[rvince]

Anybody would translate "DL" for me please? :-)

[SexxxyJade]

DL: down low. Men who are in the closett about their attractions for ts or men. They go about it as dicretely as possible. Sometimes to the extreme in my opinion.

[Ecstatic]

DL = "down low"; "Down Low" refers to men who discreetly have sex with other men while in a relationship with a woman, especially where these men do not consider themselves gay or bisexual (especially if their secret partners are TS) and whose women do not know they are having sex in secret or "in hiding." Loosely equivalent to "closeted" but sometimes seen as a little different in that they are not denying their attraction to themselves, only hiding it from others.

[rvince]

Thanks! ;-)

[canihavu]

lol, TS' dont get a monthly aggravation
another reason yall are easy to talk to

We may not get the monthly aggrevation, but you try walking around all day with ya 8 inch cock tucked and strappped all the way back bettween ya legs. You try squeezing ya size 8 men feet into a narrow size 10 laidies shoe, with a pointed heel and walk around all day everyday. You try taking all kinds of medicines that make your hormones go 200 percent over the avg ( again everyday). You try goinh through all kinds of surgical procedures and recovcery over and over again, just to make yourself presentable enuff to call yourself a Lady. Try all this baby and then tell me that TS are easier to talk to becuse we have less aggrevation. If u ask me, Id rather have the monthly.

Jade I know this may come off as a silly question, but why do you ladies tuck and strap your dicks between your legs???

[BlackAdder]

Because its generally not very lady like to have this huge bulge in your dress lol...A long time friend of mine is 9" and if she doesnt tuck it its quite obvious:).

Jada, In my experience *most* girls wont give up the escorting lifestyle for whatever reason, for a relationship..I often think its because they have been burned in the past and are afraid of making another commitment so they wont even give you a chance. My previously mentioned friend and I have talked about why TS's dont want relationships, and its mostly due to the kind of men who chase them or at least thats the impression I get.

I think you seem to be the exception, rather then the rule
8)

Since we can attach files and I cant figure out the signatures lol, this is me:)

[SexxxyJade]

Jade I know this may come off as a silly question, but why do you ladies tuck and strap your dicks between your legs???

Yea tha :P t question was pretty silly, but ill talk to ou about that later....in private. :P

[SexxxyJade]

Since we can attach files and I cant figure out the signatures lol, this is me:)

YUMMY :P

[rvince]

Jade I know this may come off as a silly question, but why do you ladies tuck and strap your dicks between your legs???

Because their goal is to look like real ladies and not like newbie crossdressers?

[canihavu]

Jade I know this may come off as a silly question, but why do you ladies tuck and strap your dicks between your legs???

Yea tha :P t question was pretty silly, but ill talk to ou about that later....in private. :P

I can't wait, Sweetie!!! :D

[drock]

WE DO GET THE SYMPTOMS JOHHNYWALKER...EVERY MONTH! :lol:

come on now..

[canihavu]

No you are not wrong!!!
p.s. can i call you to say hi.
better yet can i cum over and say hi and cum over and over again
oh i'll donate. "$$$$$$$$"
You sexy thing i need new pics of you pm me. lol

Sure you can call me babe, i get bored on tour in these hotels sometimes, woukdn't mind the convo.

Emailing you my number right now...I would love to chat with you , lady...

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I read this today on another TS forum....
"On the DL....
Hello, I'm a 37 year old male that resides in Baltimore, Maryland. I'm seek to have that sexual encounter with a transexual who isn't in it for the money. I'm looking for the experience only since I am curious...but don't what to lose sight of the womenly features. No strings attached. Drop me a line... MUST BE IN BALTIMORE!!!"

Here's my two cents on this topic. He is the one looking for the experience. So to be saying, "I'm seek to have that sexual encounter with a transexual who isn't in it for the money. I'm looking for the experience only since I am curious...but don't what to lose sight of the womenly features. No strings attached. Is NOT being realistic.

First off, He is the one who seeks this type of experience. Not any Transexual/s. And He is from Balto. Now in Balto alone..I dont think there are transexual who isnt a "working girl". Correct me if Im wrong but at 35, He might be asking way too much. Someone who isnt in it for the money? Now where the hell would you find a transexual girl whos even remotely like that?

These men on the DL are the worst. Since they dont want anything to do with you out in public then why the hell would any transexual give a guy on the DL any time of day?? If he treats you as if he is ashamed of you then he just better off treated as a trick. LOL.

Unless he is 18 to 21..then there might be HOPE some tranny might do a TRADE. But I highly doubt he meets any or have sumthin sumthin anytime soon. LOL.

~Kisses.

HTG

[GrimFusion]

I read this today on another TS forum....
"On the DL....
Hello, I'm a 37 year old male that resides in Baltimore, Maryland. I'm seek to have that sexual encounter with a transexual who isn't in it for the money. I'm looking for the experience only since I am curious...but don't what to lose sight of the womenly features. No strings attached. Drop me a line... MUST BE IN BALTIMORE!!!"

Now could someone please help me understand this DL thing. I understand wanting privacy and a little discretion in your personal dealings, but how can a man on the DL, expect a girl to sleep with him just because. Most of us are escorts becuase men are too insecure, or just not man enough to accept what they like (TS), and just go with it. If your on the DL you should expect a girl to ask for a donation, being that you have nothing else to offer. You cant take us out, chances are we will only see you once or twice, for a late night booty call. How can you be married, or on the DL and expect to find a girl who is not an escort? Please help me understand this.
Me personally don't deal with any man who cant show me a good time and make me feel special. Rather it be taking me out, calling me just to say hi occasionally, or just openly being there when i need someone to talk to. Otherwise he can expect to be given my rate information. Am i wrong?

Personally, I think the guy must be dislusional. The two main reasons why guys pay for escorts in the first place is either that they have some serious relationship on the side and they're trying to keep "hush-hush", or they think they can't naturally attract those they're after. The simple fact that he wants to keep thinks on the down-low proves that he's in a relationship he values, but one that lacks certain aspects he needs.

You can't take a gameboy to a store and demand free batteries. He shouldn't expect to be able to try to fill in the obvious gaps in his relationship by demanding hand-outs. Stupid people...

[BlackAdder]

DL men are oxygen thieves and and likely to spread aids to there wives/girlfriends....

[GrimFusion]

DL men are oxygen thieves and and likely to spread aids to there wives/girlfriends....

Yeah, no kidding. If the guys are trully scared about their wives/girlfriends leaving them, what do you think will happen when the dude brings home an STD. Some men just don't think.

[magicone]

I say kill all DL niggaz. They will bring our black race to extinction 4real I hate them niggaz with a passion more than anything else in this world.

[BlackAdder]

Yeesh..well i dont know about killing them all, but my ex-girlfriend says there are ALOT of them down in Camden...she makes it sould like 50% of the male black population down there.

[flabbybody]

I'm a former dl. terrifyed a visiting buddy would see pics on my computer and think I'm queer. I'm so over that now. I don't where a sign on my head saying I like tgirls, but I expend zero energy hiding it at work and home.

Now I have nothing but disdain for dl's. guys who go up to girls at tranny clubs and ask them how big their dicks are and if they can come. guys who would say things to girls they don't know that they wouldn't say to a gg in a million years.

[DamionXXX]

Я Люблю Вас Ulyana, я Люблю только Вас ... теперь и для остальной части моей жизни.

[BlackAdder]

Its very easy for a ts to feel unloved though it seems, even easier then a GG....self esteem issues? Thats my bet.

[Daebo]

Here we go talking about our race again when is ya'll just going to just give up.

[Ecstatic]

You can't take a gameboy to a store and demand free batteries.
Best line I've heard all week! 8)

[BlackAdder]

"You're going off the premiss that every one that is not hetero is an AIDS canidate"



Umm no ...Im going off the PREMISE..., that guys who are on the DL are in the same category as those who are most likely to spread aids..ie those who have multiple sex partners of both sexes and a low incidence of condom usage....

"That's odd, because IIRC, Magic Johnson and Eric Wright (died) suffered & suffering from similar level's of the virus. Both within in contact of hetrosexual women on the street."

Do you think those cats are going to admit maybe some of there encounters were with tgirls or even femboys? ....



Editted because I was being an ass....

[Andrew Johnson]

Jade,

This cat probably isn't going to get any bites on his ad anyway. It's weak! If he does have any takers, you have to assume they have pretty low self-esteem. It's pretty sad really.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

yes a T-girl can be faithfull it treated right. If she feels unloved for a split second all bets are off however.

That is so true!! LOL.


Its very easy for a ts to feel unloved though it seems, even easier then a GG....self esteem issues? Thats my bet.

Hmm..Its got nothing to do with self esteem issues. We as TS women know how men are in general (Remember, we are born one). :wink:

Taking hormones and having any surgery doesnt change that fact. We're more intune to you guys than You guys are in tune with "US" transexuals. We can vibe slight differences in you tahn you might even know it yourself. :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BlackAdder]

Cmon Hara, how many girls do you know with self-esteem issues....Im thinkin like, almost all the GG's i know.

I think the main reason any girl cheats is because she thinks your either doing it to her, or that you dont care enough if she does...Wait..I guess thats two reasons tying for first place.



Edit: Your right Unisex...uncalled for...man, ive gotta stop posting late at night!!!!! The more trouble I have sleeping, the worse my disposition is getting.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Cmon Hara, how many girls do you know with self-esteem issues....Im thinkin like, almost all the GG's i know.

I think the main reason any girl cheats is because she thinks your either doing it to her, or that you dont care enough if she does...Wait..I guess thats two reasons tying for first place.

Personally? Based on my small circle of friends (GG or TS..post and or pre op)..None have self esteem issues. Some are even married btw some single.

Altough, Maybe sometimes they tend to question or doubt a guy their seing..but generally they just do it and say things to their female friends to get a 2nd or 3rd opinion. Not that its a bad thing btw. It puts them in the right perspective of things.

I cannot speak of others tho whom I personally dont even know. Could be that you've met quite a few of them with self esteem issues. Im just talking about the ts and or women that Im friends with whom all are like as Damion said the minute they felt or suspect something is off all bets are off type of people. Its human nature. Its got nothing to do with self esteem.

And about Women or TS who cheats are a two way street. Men cheat all the time and think they can get away with it. Ive been there, I know. LOL. Would I cheat back? You bet I will!! Lmao. Its a no brainer. :wink: :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[Dkg]

Well, you should know that most men don't want to people to kow about they're attractions to TS b/c most people would frown o that and label them you-know-what.

I think it's a really sad situation but that's just how things are here in America. Now, in other countries I'm sure people are much more open with their sexuality. That said, I'm curently on the DL but only b/c I'm just not at that point yet when I'm ready to be open about it.

But honestly, if the right girl came around at the right time and I was truly feeling her, I'd have no problem whatsoever letting the whole world know. I could never be (for lack of a better word) ashamed of someone I was in love with.

[BlackAdder]

Dang Arianna...that would be me bar the fat lol.....Damn...pwned...bought them both from Ocala...I feel much better when im driving though lol!!!