gay, straight, or in between

[meleaky]

Old subject, new dialog......I questioned myself on whehter I was gay; as most of you have. I've come to the conclusion I AM NOT! Gay is a term reserved for those who like men implicitly. Bisexual for those who are analogous. I've listened to the rant and raves and all the tribulations about if you suck a dick you're gay. I almost believed it myself. Allow me to tell you why this isn't so. I recently watched "queer as folk" and I was disgusted at having to see 2 males kiss. In fact, it appalled me to see such a thing. So much so that I could see why people could be gay bashers....and yet, here I am wanting a shemale....a flaming gay boy with tits. The dilema. So I started thinking and my thoughts came to this....what turned me off the most wasn't the cock, but the male physique. Most people construe a male as being dominant...the one who penatrates...the one who needs to initiate...the one who needs to get aroused for any sexual activity to eventuate. From a totally hetero point of view one can interpolate a need to be dominated. I don't want so much as to be dominated as to have someone want me so much as to take control. My fascination, combined with the thought of penetration, is having both of each...hence my liking of shemales.



jlincoln@numail.org

[Edmund]

Hmmmm... I gotta say, if you were "disgusted" and "appalled" to see two men kiss.... Yeah, you're probably gay.

[popperluv]

I consider myself bi.
Gay guys are not attracted to women , I think 99% of the guys on this board still are attracted to women.
IMO most of us are just bi :wink:

[hwbs]

one thing i learned on this board is that there are alot of hangups on this board....u should focus less on labels or what others think, cause people are always going to judge.just make yourself happy instead...

[Kramer]

I have a wife at home, and sex is great.

Trannies excite me too. But the risk is just too big for me to go get some. If I ever caught something, life as I know it would be over.

Its a scary thought. :shock:

[Spanky]

If you are a man and:

1. You perform oral sex on a TS
2. A TS performs oral sex on you
3. You fuck a TS or
4. A TS fucks you

then this you are engaging in homosexual acts. There are no two ways about it. Many people on this board are in complete denial of their sexual orientation.

I have read some posts where people say "I'm attracted to transexuals but I'm completely straight." This is complete bullshit. If you have a cock and you like other cocks, then you are gay.

Then there are those that believe that just because they are tops that they are straight and that anyone who is a bottom is gay. More denial!

If any of us also like women, then we are obviously bisexual.

Any questions?

[Ecstatic]

You can't be both gay and bisexual; gay by definition indicates sexual orientation only to the same sex, whereas bisexual (pansexual) by definition means sexual orientation to either sex, not one OR the other. Men who are attracted to m2f TS AND women are (by this rather limited definition) bisexual, not gay. Hetero (straight) indicates only sexual attraction to the opposite sex (never mind that at least 2% of the population doesn't even qualify as one sex or the other, being intersexed), so yes, by this definition a man cannot be attracted to a m2f TS and be hetero. But that doesn't make him gay!

Personally, I think these definitions are too limiting, and I have posted multiple times to this effect (and apparently to some closed-minded individuals, no effect). Nor do these definitions enter to any issues of lifestyle or attraction other than purely physical, based on the most fundamental sexual characteristic (the presence or absence of a dick).

[tippinnottrippin]

If you are a man and:

1. You perform oral sex on a TS
2. A TS performs oral sex on you
3. You fuck a TS or
4. A TS fucks you

then this you are engaging in homosexual acts. There are no two ways about it. Many people on this board are in complete denial of their sexual orientation.

I have read some posts where people say "I'm attracted to transexuals but I'm completely straight." This is complete bullshit. If you have a cock and you like other cocks, then you are gay.

Then there are those that believe that just because they are tops that they are straight and that anyone who is a bottom is gay. More denial!

If any of us also like women, then we are obviously bisexual.

Any questions?
Thank you Mr.Know it all,
wow the way people think they know everthing
why do we talk about this every other post.
So if you attracted to transexuals you are gay so does that make
transexuals really fucking gay. What does this matter anyway "Montel".
Now can you tell me if the cups is half full or half empty or better yet go suck a tranny dick Faggot.

[Spanky]

Thank you Mr.Know it all,
wow the way people think they know everthing
why do we talk about this every other post.
So if you attracted to transexuals you are gay so does that make
transexuals really fucking gay. What does this matter anyway "Montel".
Now can you tell me if the cups is half full or half empty or better yet go suck a tranny dick Faggot.

Ha! I had a feeling that my message would irk those that are in denial about their sexuality. :lol:

tippinnottrippin, if you are attracted to both women and transexuals, then you are bisexual. Is this easier for you to understand?

For some, being with a transexual is a way of not dealing with one's own homosexual tendencies. Like I said before, if you have a cock and you like sucking cock, then this is a homosexual act. This is pretty straight forward...don't you think tippinnottrippin?

Oh and for those of you that say "what's with the labels?" and all that shit, then you too are in denial. Hate to burst your bubbles.

[tippinnottrippin]

Thank you Mr.Know it all,
wow the way people think they know everthing
why do we talk about this every other post.
So if you attracted to transexuals you are gay so does that make
transexuals really fucking gay. What does this matter anyway "Montel".
Now can you tell me if the cups is half full or half empty or better yet go suck a tranny dick Faggot.

Ha! I had a feeling that my message would irk those that are in denial about their sexuality. :lol:

tippinnottrippin, if you are attracted to both women and transexuals, then you are bisexual. Is this easier for you to understand?

For some, being with a transexual is a way of not dealing with one's own homosexual tendencies. Like I said before, if you have a cock and you like sucking cock, then this is a homosexual act. This is pretty straight forward...don't you think tippinnottrippin?

Oh and for those of you that say "what's with the labels?" and all that shit, then you too are in denial. Hate to burst your bubbles.
I'll just go get high because it cools my soul. If anyone read what i posted before forget it we are all fags This post was edited

[Spanky]

What the hell are you talking about i don't care what anyone say or think about me i have no feeling, so i hope your whole family dies in the next hour dickhead.
So shut the hell up before i do black magic on your ass.
Shhhh.
My next post will not be nice.
Now go finish sucking that tranny dick before i slap the taste out of your mouth. Kill or be killed Nigga!!!!!!

I wasn't referring to you but people people on this board in general. Besides, if it doesn't bother you, why did you reply? Out of interest, do you consider yourself straight, bi or something else? No need to reply with anything like "I don't believe in labels"... I've already commented on this type of reply above.

Now if you're going to respond, please post something worthwhile. Your homeboy ebonic drivel is boring and uninspiring.

[tippinnottrippin]

What the hell are you talking about i don't care what anyone say or think about me i have no feeling, so i hope your whole family dies in the next hour dickhead.
So shut the hell up before i do black magic on your ass.
Shhhh.
My next post will not be nice.
Now go finish sucking that tranny dick before i slap the taste out of your mouth. Kill or be killed Nigga!!!!!!

I wasn't referring to you but people people on this board in general. Besides, if it doesn't bother you, why did you reply? Out of interest, do you consider yourself straight, bi or something else? No need to reply with anything like "I don't believe in labels"... I've already commented on this type of reply above.

Now if you're going to respond, please post something worthwhile. Your homeboy ebonic drivel is boring and uninspiring.
I change that post because i'm in my rehab mode.
But if you want me to switch back for you i'll do it just let me know.

[tippinnottrippin]

Spanky this is my bad i'm seeing things. let's forget it
And hell i don't know or care what i am. Hell next week i might like fat girls.

[Adam_Thompson]

I know this shit is old as fuck, but obviously it is still relevant to the dialogue we conduct in this forum.
I do have an anecdotal sidenote:
I have a few stripper friends who date women and consider themselves bisexual. The women they date are very much butch, some on hormones and would be considered FTM, just as the MTF we are attracted to.
These women are very comfortable claiming to be lesbian or bi, but I think that because it is way more acceptable for them and they are the ones who fought for it to be acceptable.


Myself I have a TS friend who will not listen to any guy that claims to be straight and likes her. She told me we just like EXTREMELY feminine men...basically we are on one extreme end of the spectrum of bisexuality-homosexuality. You have thugs who fuck other thugs, does this make them less gay than you wanting to fuck a chick like Kayla Coxx(who by the way does gay porn as a man and simply wears a wig and makeup for TS porn).

I really don't have any answers for anyone cause its your mind and your decision and your life. I know what I am and what I like and accept it for what it is.....a beautiful fucking thing

[Adam_Thompson]

Well I think I had a good responese...but no one is reading it

[tsluver247]

If you are a man and:

1. You perform oral sex on a TS
2. A TS performs oral sex on you
3. You fuck a TS or
4. A TS fucks you

then this you are engaging in homosexual acts. There are no two ways about it. Many people on this board are in complete denial of their sexual orientation.

I have read some posts where people say "I'm attracted to transexuals but I'm completely straight." This is complete bullshit. If you have a cock and you like other cocks, then you are gay.

Then there are those that believe that just because they are tops that they are straight and that anyone who is a bottom is gay. More denial!

If any of us also like women, then we are obviously bisexual.

Any questions?

I see the thought is just as bad as the action in your description. I can understand your points, but I have one question: why do you distinguish liking, touching, and playing your own cock versus another person's cock? A penis is a penis, right?

Drawing lines are hard on certain subject and I think being gay is one of them. Let's say you see a hot woman at the club and you are attracted to her, you talk and end up at her place only to find out that she has a cock. Is that being gay, because you were attracted to what you thought was a woman, but found out she had a cock? The problem is perception. What happens if you get a blowjob from what you think is a woman, but she actually has a penis? As far as the person believes they are not gay, but a homosexual act was committed. You can have false positives on the subject of being gay. How about having anal sex with a woman? Is this a homosexual act? As far as society, it seems perception, a person's gender, and one's own penis seem to be the exception to the rule.

I forgot watching porn. Many men watch another man fuck a woman. Is that gay? It seems that male porn stars have big penises, it maybe because small penises do not sell as well. There always have to be a cumshot (or moneyshot). Is watching porn gay?

In my opinion, there is no set standard on being gay. It is all in a person's mind on where the line is drawn. The question is always ask, but opinions differ on the subject.

That is just my 2 cents.

[tippinnottrippin]

Well I think I had a good responese...but no one is reading it
It's all good

[AllanahStarrNYC]

As a victim of a violent hate crime, I find it repulsive that the originator of this post "understands" why some someone would commit a hate crime.

That is a despicable comment and can only be described as hate speech.

You should be utterly ashamed of yourself-and instead of being disgusted with 2 men kissing-showing affection for each other, you should be disgusted with your reasoning, ignorant comments, and to think that you have the right to judge others.

Sad, Sad, Sad.

[Castor_Troy05]

In my own opinion the definitions, for what is now classed as a homosexual act, are too limited. They were defined long before the dawn of TS women and therefore does not take that into account. While technically, to a closed minded individual, they are still "men" there is unlikely to be one guy on earth whom, if they didn't know, would pick out Allanah or Gia or many other TS women, as being born men. If liking these women classes me as gay, then gay me up as I aint changing my preferences for the sake of a pointless label.

At the end of the day, ya like what ya like, and as long as it's not harming anyone or illegal, then who cares really.

[lmw222001]

Spanky wrote:
If you are a man and:

1. You perform oral sex on a TS
2. A TS performs oral sex on you
3. You fuck a TS or
4. A TS fucks you

then this you are engaging in homosexual acts. There are no two ways about it. Many people on this board are in complete denial of their sexual orientation.

I have read some posts where people say "I'm attracted to transexuals but I'm completely straight." This is complete bullshit. If you have a cock and you like other cocks, then you are gay.

Then there are those that believe that just because they are tops that they are straight and that anyone who is a bottom is gay. More denial!

If any of us also like women, then we are obviously bisexual.

Any questions?

Thank you Mr.Know it all,
wow the way people think they know everthing
why do we talk about this every other post.
So if you attracted to transexuals you are gay so does that make
transexuals really fucking gay. What does this matter anyway "Montel".
Now can you tell me if the cups is half full or half empty or better yet go suck a tranny dick Faggot.

Faggot? Nice. Why some of you pinheads even bother to come to this board just fucking floor me.

This topic has been discussed 100 times on here.

Who gives a shit?

So I guess you're a faggot because you suck tranny dick?

Or you're bi?

Gay?

Don't know?

Or you're straight and don't have the balls to get it on with a T-Girl?

Grow the fuck up.

[Spanky]

Spanky wrote:
If you are a man and:

1. You perform oral sex on a TS
2. A TS performs oral sex on you
3. You fuck a TS or
4. A TS fucks you

then this you are engaging in homosexual acts. There are no two ways about it. Many people on this board are in complete denial of their sexual orientation.

I have read some posts where people say "I'm attracted to transexuals but I'm completely straight." This is complete bullshit. If you have a cock and you like other cocks, then you are gay.

Then there are those that believe that just because they are tops that they are straight and that anyone who is a bottom is gay. More denial!

If any of us also like women, then we are obviously bisexual.

Any questions?

Thank you Mr.Know it all,
wow the way people think they know everthing
why do we talk about this every other post.
So if you attracted to transexuals you are gay so does that make
transexuals really fucking gay. What does this matter anyway "Montel".
Now can you tell me if the cups is half full or half empty or better yet go suck a tranny dick Faggot.

Faggot? Nice. Why some of you pinheads even bother to come to this board just fucking floor me.

This topic has been discussed 100 times on here.

Who gives a shit?

So I guess you're a faggot because you suck tranny dick?

Or you're bi?

Gay?

Don't know?

Or you're straight and don't have the balls to get it on with a T-Girl?

Grow the fuck up.

I am bi and not afraid to admit it. As I stated many times in this thread, there are a lot of men on this forum that refuse to accept their bi-sexuality. Like you lmw222001, I'm sure that personal insecurities have a lot to do with it.

[lmw222001]

Fair enough, I didn't mean to offend you. A lot of the the guys on this board drive me crazy. Like you, I'm Bi and not afraid to admit it.

You know, we all had a period of curiosity before we took the plunge.
I didn't come on the boards and start calling people faggots or other
hateful names.

Some of the guys that come on here will never be with a T-Girl for whatever reason-and that's fine. That's their business.
Then there are the lurkers who just want to stir up shit and don't have the balls to be with a T-Girl. They want to but just don't have the the guts.

[tippinnottrippin]

Fair enough, I didn't mean to offend you. A lot of the the guys on this board drive me crazy. Like you, I'm Bi and not afraid to admit it.

You know, we all had a period of curiosity before we took the plunge.
I didn't come on the boards and start calling people faggots or other
hateful names.

Some of the guys that come on here will never be with a T-Girl for whatever reason-and that's fine. That's their business.
Then there are the lurkers who just want to stir up shit and don't have the balls to be with a T-Girl. They want to but just don't have the the guts.
Blah blah blah

[love4tranny]

Initially as a young boy, I liked straight porn but was a crossdresser and soon the lovely Camila de Castro vids got me o to shemale porn. Now, I find a shemale with two men getting it on is the as well is the best. When i am fem, i fiind men attractive (is that then hetrosexual?) but when i am dressed as a man, i find women and Ts attractive. Thus, I think i am bisexual, maybe hetrosexual? but a certainly don't mind being gay if that is what the tags calls for. It's our own choice, whether it's a man, woman or tgirl.

Don't care about labels, just like sex!

[TomSelis]

I know this shit is old as fuck, but obviously it is still relevant to the dialogue we conduct in this forum.
I do have an anecdotal sidenote:
I have a few stripper friends who date women and consider themselves bisexual. The women they date are very much butch, some on hormones and would be considered FTM, just as the MTF we are attracted to.
These women are very comfortable claiming to be lesbian or bi, but I think that because it is way more acceptable for them and they are the ones who fought for it to be acceptable.


Myself I have a TS friend who will not listen to any guy that claims to be straight and likes her. She told me we just like EXTREMELY feminine men...basically we are on one extreme end of the spectrum of bisexuality-homosexuality. You have thugs who fuck other thugs, does this make them less gay than you wanting to fuck a chick like Kayla Coxx(who by the way does gay porn as a man and simply wears a wig and makeup for TS porn).

I really don't have any answers for anyone cause its your mind and your decision and your life. I know what I am and what I like and accept it for what it is.....a beautiful fucking thing

I think you're definitely on point. I think sexuality is a broad spectrum and everybody fits somewhere different on it. I like GG's and TG's does that put me in the middle or is a person that likes men and women in the middle? Or is a man that likes getting fucked in the ass by a tranny but not a man more gay than me? What if I like TG's but only want to suck their dick and fuck them? What if I only like to fuck them and let them suck me off? What about those guys that like "manly" looking women? What about those guys that like muscular women?

See, you can go on and on about what is gay/bi/straight and what isn't. People like to classify things. As long as you're comfortable doing what you do, it's all good.

I was at Allanah's party last thursday (like I am most thursdays) and I was watching that really hot girl that looks kind of like Sade (I can never remember her name) dance on stage. I got really reflective on what the hell I was doing there. I came to this conclusion: I might be partly gay, but not enough to be called gay or bi. What turned me on was how sexy that "girl" was on stage, the curves she had, and those chocolate colored nipples. It wasn't the little dick she had tucked between her legs. When "she" touched my thigh, my dick jumped. Yet I knew this "girl" had a dick.

Now if a beefy man was up on stage with a 10 inch cock swinging around up there. I would've left. I'm sure there were men there that would've stayed though even if there was a man up there.

I looked at some of the guys that were there and I realized there were guys I'm sure felt just like I felt. How do I know that? Because they were talking to all of the type of girls I would've talked to. That's why I go to the parties.


I have to disagree with what your TS friend said though. Anything with sexuality is a simplification. It's all semantics though. That girl that calls any guy that likes a tranny gay, is technically right. Here's where it gets interesting. What kind of guy does she like? Wouldn't that guy, once he got involved with her be gay?

Is a guy that likes women that are built like 10 year old boys gay? Because he is attracted to someone who has very androgenous features.

I say I'm attracted to what is extremely feminine and beautiful. Similar to the ancient Greeks. Whether there's a penis or a vagina down there is secondary.

It's all mental.

[flabbybody]

that's a good post tomselis.
how would you classify me? If Kayla Cox was on stage in her girl getup, I'd be panting with desire. If she was in her boy clothes, I'd walk away.

not sure I want an answer.

[TomSelis]

not sure I want an answer.

That is the answer!!! It's all a spectrum, you're somewhere I'm not, but I'm sure others are. It keeps on going.

It's kind of like the girls that consider themselves men with breasts.....versus girls that consider themselves women.

[mrcargen]

that is the worse picture, I have ever seen. I think I may leave this thread, that is horrible.

[Ecstatic]

I'm probably a little further to the...umm...left? what direction is "gay"? than either you, flabby, or Tom. How so? Like both of you, I would have zero interest in any guy dancing on that stage, and would walk away. And if Gisele (is that who you're referring to, Tom? sounds like it) were on that dance stage, I'd be standing there with a very noticable bulge in my pants. Likewise if it were, oh, Halle Berry or Jessica Alba.

Yet, in the past (long before I "discovered" tgirls), I might well have gone down on that guy's 10" snake, say if he approached me in a darkened room and I was feeling horny. I certainly did more than a few back in the day under similar circumstances. The sex was often very enjoyable. Some would say that makes me gay, which is fine if that's how you want to pigeonhole me. I say it makes me bisexual insofar as I enjoy sex in many forms, but as far as attraction--let alone romantic or emotional involvement--none whatsoever. Like you say, Tom, I'm attracted to the extremely feminine and beautiful.

[AdmirerOfFemaleWannabes]

Homosexual is someone who practices homosexuality; having a sexual attraction to persons of the same sex. Tgirls are the same sex as I so by that definition it would make me a bisexual. But if by homosexuality is meant sexual attraction to masculine looks then by that definition I would be a heterosexual except for being attracted by a cock but you could just consider it as a big clit.

But I belive that in the distant future we don't have that problem of categorizing since we humans evolve and there will be only beings with angelic bodies which means one sex.

[LG]

Just to stir things up a bit:

If a guy has sex with a post op TS, is he engaging in homosexual sex because his partner is genetically a male?

If a man's wife straps on a great big dildo and makes him her bitch for the night does that make the man homosexual because he is performing oral sex and being penetrated by what is effectively a penis (albeit a plastic one)?

If a man engages in oral, vaginal or anal sex with a post op or in anal or oral sex (with the man receiving fellatio) with a preop and is not aware of her past, believing her to be a woman, is he having homosexual sex?

If a man visits tgirl shows or drag shows regularly but has never met or been with a transexual, transvestite or drag queen does that make him bisexual?

My answer to all of these questions is this- there are so grey areas that it's kind of pointless trying to make neat little definitions. What do others think?

[Hugh Jarrod]

Spanky you make me laugh, I'm comfortable with who I am and no I don't like men. Don't consider myself gay or even bi however wouldn't say I was completely gay. You like much of the world have basically broken sexuality down to genitals and tossed out labels. Good luck with that one in life, then again maybe we need a lover for T lovers. As well anyone worried about this topic why worry? Just live your life have fun how you see fit and move on. If you think you're gay then yes you are. No homosexual man I know likes Tgurls, I hear "straight" men look at gorgeous Ts, that are unclockable and say dam she's fine. It comes down to more than genitals. As for labels I'll call anyone what they want to be called, don't really care for them at all though myself. Yep that's me Spanky I hate labels. That's why I don't really concern myself with them. Unless some little wannabe tough guy walks up and starts calling me names in an obnoxious manner, but then again most people wouldn't like that.

[Ecstatic]

LG, you hit it. Why are so many people so hung up on this? Just be who you are and hang the differences. Categories don't work for music, why should they work for human sexuality?

[geekmeat]

If you are a man and:

1. You perform oral sex on a TS
2. A TS performs oral sex on you
3. You fuck a TS or
4. A TS fucks you

then this you are engaging in homosexual acts. There are no two ways about it. Many people on this board are in complete denial of their sexual orientation.

I have read some posts where people say "I'm attracted to transexuals but I'm completely straight." This is complete bullshit. If you have a cock and you like other cocks, then you are gay.

Then there are those that believe that just because they are tops that they are straight and that anyone who is a bottom is gay. More denial!

If any of us also like women, then we are obviously bisexual.

Any questions?

You know its funny........
When I say almost anything I get people like Allanah trying to make me feel like a narrowminded bigot.
Yet listen to this shit!
I have done NONE of the above .........
But it seems like this individual is JUDGING something Allanah says shes hates..........
The people that always tie in the gay thing with transexuals ARE themselves gay!

Have a good day.

[LG]

You wanna know what I think? Well, okay, but here it is anyway:

I think we spend too much time trying to explain ourselves and put ourselves into neat little boxes, when the fact is that human sexuality is a scruffy, tangled web of thoughts, fear, passions and emotions, full of dark corners, jagged edges and grey areas.

We'd all be much better off exchanging thoughts and experiences, meeting the girls and then getting out in the sunshine (or the rain) and trying to find the girl of our dreams.

[d]

Geekmeat wrote;
"You know its funny........
When I say almost anything I get people like Allanah trying to make me feel like a narrowminded bigot.
Yet listen to this shit!
I have done NONE of the above .........
But it seems like this individual is JUDGING something Allanah says shes hates..........
The people that always tie in the gay thing with transexuals ARE themselves gay! "


Why didn't you explain how doing those things are your deepest desire, you just don't have the stones to do so geeky ol' boy.

:D

[Ecstatic]

Spanky is exactly right. If both have the same genitalia, then it is homosexual activity if they engage in sexual activity. You cant change that, hair and tits doesn't change that. What is so hard for people to accept about it.
Because it ain't that simple! Whether ya got a cock and balls or a pussy is not the only factor here, unless you really enjoy living life in the narrowest of confines. If a girl identifies as woman, then that, for me, trumps whether she has a dick or a pussy.

What's the point, LG? We're either preaching to the choir or talking to a wall.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN
More HungAngels posters trying to define sexuality by 3 narrow categories and pigeon hole everyone into really admitting what they are in denial of.

Again, I think sexuality is way to complex to define it by three categories.

As far as what geek said- gay people can be narrow minded, anyone can be narrow minded.
You can be in any group and be stupid about this whole ts thing.

The fact is there are vast and huge differences between transsexuals and gay men. I can not accept Spankie's and the other posters ideas that just because I was born male, and my genetic make up is male, that a man attracted to me or another transsexual is gay.

I have been living as a woman for about 10 years now and I will tell you that in those 3,650 odd or so days of living like this, I YET HAVE HAVE HAD SEX OR FOUND A MAN WHO DESCRIBED HIMSELF AS GAY who was attracted to me. And I do not see it happening anytime soon.

I have many gay friends, a gay assistant, and trust me darlings they like other MEN.

[ezed]

Call me hetro,
Call me bi,
Call me gay,
Call me Ray....
But don't call me a Lesbian Terrorist!!!!!
Seriously though, I love T-girls, they are wonderful...
Have been with a many and loved every minute. Long time being with girls and love them too. Never been with "just a plain guy" haven't found one who turns me on. I tried viewing gay websites...but as Larry the Cable Guy would maybe say...."It just don't get it done!"
For me T-girls get it done...very well done. I'll willing do anything ..69, give head, receive head, have my head patted...bottom, top,...sideways..upside down..inside out ( though I don't know how).
Life is short... If your looking in the eyes of a warm passionate, beautiful, person, engulf yourself...you won't regret it. If that person has a beautiful cock....what a fucking bonus!!!!!!! Most of you members have a cock and know exactly how to please it (maybe). Fuck if loving tgirls makes me gay...so be it. But if you're going to call me Gay....at least have the courtesy to call me Gay Ray!!!!!!! or ed if you actually want to talk to me.

[Hugh Jarrod]

Call me hetro,
Call me bi,
Call me gay,
Call me Ray....
But don't call me a Lesbian Terrorist!!!!!
Seriously though, I love T-girls, they are wonderful...
Have been with a many and loved every minute. Long time being with girls and love them too. Never been with "just a plain guy" haven't found one who turns me on. I tried viewing gay websites...but as Larry the Cable Guy would maybe say...."It just don't get it done!"
For me T-girls get it done...very well done. I'll willing do anything ..69, give head, receive head, have my head patted...bottom, top,...sideways..upside down..inside out ( though I don't know how).
Life is short... If your looking in the eyes of a warm passionate, beautiful, person, engulf yourself...you won't regret it. If that person has a beautiful cock....what a fucking bonus!!!!!!! Most of you members have a cock and know exactly how to please it (maybe). Fuck if loving tgirls makes me gay...so be it. But if you're going to call me Gay....at least have the courtesy to call me Gay Ray!!!!!!! or ed if you actually want to talk to me.

LOL, quality post.

[scorpion]

mrcargen wrote about love4tranny pic: that is the worse picture, I have ever seen. I think I may leave this thread, that is horrible. Dont loock at it then..The taste is diffrent. Not every pic you see here is in your taste and not mine eigther. But it always some who like them.
About if Im Gay /bi or something else.
I dont care anymore..I like guys and T-girls or transvestites. But not G-girls. But I find a real girls ass werry sexy and girls face often werry sweet.
maybee is it the reason why I love trans girls.
Nothing I can help or want do do something about.
Im satisfield whit my life.

[Coucoupietre]

If you look the terminology, people who likes both sex are called bi.

Otherwise if you tell someone you like trannies, he or she will call you "gay".

So the books and life are slightly different!

[tgirlzoe]

This is why I like to think of myself and other t-girls as a third sex.

See, if we consider t-girls to be females then why are most straight guys categorically not attracted to them (at least when they find out "OMG it's a man!")? If t-girls are males, then why are most gay guys categorically not attracted to them? Being bisexual just means you like men and women, most aren't interested in t-girls.

When a guy flirts or makes out with me, as far as he knows most of the time, he is flirting or making out with a female and thus there is no question about his sexuality. If I tell him what I am and he is still interested (as most guys are), that doesn't make him gay because he is interested in me as a girl and not as a boy. Sure I may be a girl with something extra between her legs but that's not the same as being a boy.

My ex-boyfriend didn't know I was T when he met me and became interested in me and he had never been with a t-girl or had any particular interest in them. He struggled with the "am I gay?" issue and had some choice quotes like "my head tells me that you're a male but my penis just sees a friendly girl in my bed". I told him to just relax and go with the flow and not to try to put a label on it.

Maybe we're a third gender and female-to-male transsexuals are a fourth, maybe there are fifth and sixth or more genders out there -- who knows? who cares?

All the boys who I've been (and I'm not that slutty...) with since transition have identified as straight and that's good enough for me.

[TomSelis]

Welcome, where the hell did you come from and how do I get you in my life?

I like your style....

[BeardedOne]

Welcome, where the hell did you come from and how do I get you in my life?

I like your style....

Heh. :) I was going to say something along the same lines. :D Tom is such a quick typer. :wink:

Zoe jumped right into the fray, all over the board. Welcome, and keep on typin'.

[tgirlzoe]

I was lurking here a while ago and decided to return to do more than look at pr0n. I found out about this site about six months ago from a bitchy old tranny who was complaining about "chasers" and mentioned "HA and SER" (I don't know what SER is).

I may have lost most of my teenage angst now that I am no longer in high school, however I still like making trouble with 'net trannies. I may not be porn-star quality but at least the people here are more my speed.

Mostly I just live my life as a 21 year old geeky college girl (i.e. "stealth") in a sleepy, liberal college town in the Pacific Northwest. As for being intellectual, well, I'm always up for a good debate... and snuggle. :-)

[PlayfulJohn]

one thing i learned on this board is that there are alot of hangups on this board....u should focus less on labels or what others think, cause people are always going to judge.just make yourself happy instead...

Now there's a statement I can agree with!

[BeardedOne]

I was lurking here a while ago and decided to return to do more than look at pr0n. I found out about this site about six months ago from a bitchy old tranny who was complaining about "chasers" and mentioned "HA and SER" (I don't know what SER is).

I may have lost most of my teenage angst now that I am no longer in high school, however I still like making trouble with 'net trannies. I may not be porn-star quality but at least the people here are more my speed.

Mostly I just live my life as a 21 year old geeky college girl (i.e. "stealth") in a sleepy, liberal college town in the Pacific Northwest. As for being intellectual, well, I'm always up for a good debate... and snuggle. :-)

I always picture a 'stealth TS' flying over the city, undetected by radar, dropping condoms filled with water on unsuspecting Grundys. :lol: :lol:

SER is Shemale (Hate that term) Escort Review. Consider it the Consumer Reports of escort sites. To be rather blunt about it, it helps us TCs (Dare I call myself one?) differentiate between the basic 'street ho' and the genuine, good, safe, fun-to-be-with-outside-the-bedroom escort. Several of 'our own' have received reviews there and it is, for both sides of the coin, a pretty good resource site.

Hey, trust me, 'angst' will always be there. Do you have any Chase credit cards? :twisted:

Ooh, debate and snuggle? And Soduku?

Heh, did I spell that right? :lol:

[no12]

Gay - hetero - bi ?!? Never mind!

I like girls and i enjoy to suck cocks and swallow cum. I also love it when my ass gets fucked. So a girl with a cock is the perfect mix! :D

[signupjustforthis]

its impossible to define anyone based on restrictive labels like gays or straight or even bi. People are just sexual and labels don't mean anything and they will never fit perfectly with anyone because they are just SOCEITAL IDEAS.

Just because you like to suck on an extra something does not make you into ANYTHING. It means you like it, that is all.

The original poster makes me so sick. He seems to be happy that he is happy he can understand why people are gay bashers. Are we supposed to celebrate his homophobia? yay, hes a homophobic so he must be straight! GET REAL. Someone needs to give him a really BIG KICK in the ass. Hate speech should not be allowed.

[Dkg]

If liking transsexuals makes me gay, so what? Even though I don't consider mself that. I'm really getting tired of all of these sexual lables for what it means to be attracted to a TS.

oh and signupjustforthis, nice post. Welcome to the boards.

[signupjustforthis]

Why , Thank you.

I think people just want to call other gays so they can feel more superior about themselves. You see this kind of name calling in school all the time , but unfortunately, alot of men are still too fragile to ever handled being labeled as gay. Good for you that you don't care. Labels are meant to keep people in line, so what i suggest is fuck those labels. They don't define who YOU are. Only you know who you are , nobody else can define you.