Are Asian and Hispanic Transsexuals the Most Racist?

[Mr. Sinister]

I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic transsexuals tend to be the most discriminating when it comes to race. Many of the Asian and Hispanic girls on Eros will only provide their services to White males. Even in their personal lives, I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic girls only want to date White males and many will not even date members of their own race. Why do many of these girls prefer white males? I have also noticed that Asian and Hispanic t-girls hate black men. There are many good looking black men out there and it makes no sense in discriminating against them because of their skin color. Why are so many Asian and Hispanic transsexuals so racist? White males aren't the only good looking men out there and in terms of money and power, men of color, whether they are Black, Latino, Arab/Indian, or Asian, are moving up in American society.

[Dinand]

Self-hatred?

[chefmike]

:popcorn

[ottorocket]

You've seemed to use the simplest expression of "racism" to explain your sociological unscientific analysis of a randomized group set to come to the conclusion you feel comfortable with. This label is tossed around WAAAAYYY to much in our culture without any appropriateness. We need to understand economics of Escorting (since you mentioned Eros)....Escorting isn't unlike any other business, the providers seek clients that meet their discriminating needs for a whole host of reasons besides just skin color. I wouldn't open up an air-conditioner store in Alaska for fear that i'm be told i'm discriminating against Aleutions ? I wouldnt open it up because it likely isn't a good fit for me or my clients. I have the right to offer services where, to whom, and how many I like in that example. As an individual (like a small biz owner) an escort has a right to refuse service to anyone, as unfair as it sounds its not racist. Many TS escorts prefer certain clients because of certain physical, financial, or social traits that maximize the providers benefits risk/reward ratio, or just plain enjoyment level. There are plenty of reasons aside of oppressing minorities that one would capitalize on in the escort biz. Statistically quantifying "racist" TS women is nearly impossible based on any one persons personal grievance, or by informal observance resulting in some systemic rationalization as you hypothesized. I'm just not buying it as you've put it...I don't see an organized, even individualized cohesive slight against any ethnic group, and conversely, i'd be surprised to not see that ostracised group being immediately capitalized on by another entreprenuer who notices they aren't being serviced.

[will802]

well thats the problem today. The racism card is thrown around too much imnsho..........

[ARMANIXXX]

Many times it is RACIAL DISCRIMINATION that causes some of these "minority" girls to refuse service to black men.

Why?

One reason is many of the Hispanic and Asian (non pacific islander) girls are immigrants, both legal and illegal, themselves. As has been described to me, the media that they show on television in their own countries, in similar fashion to much of the media here in America, they show black people committing crimes, in jail, homeless, poor and destitute, and on Flava Flav.

So when I piece that information with the information of the educational status (lack of) in their countries, and it doesn't surprise me that many Asians and many Hispanics (especially Mexicans) do not like black people all that much, even though, in many cases, they've never even met one.

[trish]

I think when you're contracting to suck someone's cock and let them stick the thing inside you, you're allowed to exercise a certain degree of discriminating discretion.

[ottorocket]

I think when you're contracting to suck someone's cock and let them stick the thing inside you, you're allowed to exercise a certain degree of discriminating discretion.

Very pithy :)

[flabbybody]

here's a girl's CL ad that comes right out and states her preference. at least most of the time they're discreet enough to request your pic




Hi my name is p----- i looking 4 white guys over 25 years old, i'm 5,6 tall and 138 pounds, i'm ready 4 have a really good time with a nice guy, please looking 4 me in american online with my name , i hope see u soon

[hwbs]

i have come across many girls that don't date guys of the same nationality.... its a tranny phenomenon , haha

[AllanahStarrNYC]

As a person in a mixed nationality/ethnic relationship whose parents come from Italy and North Africa-

Is there not a difference between prejuduce and prefference?

Everyone has prefferences..I think this has to do more with not getting what you want. Everyone has the right to choose to who they want to date or sleep with-wether that be the same race or different is simply a personal choice.

[ARMANIXXX]

As a person in a mixed nationality/ethnic relationship whose parents come from Italy and North Africa-

Is there not a difference between prejuduce and prefference?

Everyone has prefferences..I think this has to do more with not getting what you want. Everyone has the right to choose to who they want to date or sleep with-wether that be the same race or different is simply a personal choice.



You see,

That's the cop-out/rub that's insulting........

intelligence insulting.



Hooker's will see, fat men, bald men, men who smell like shit, repugnant men, married men, rude and insulting men, men from of practically all degenerate proportions, then they'll go and pretend that sex with them is supposed to be sacred and personal.

Bullshit.


Tell the damn truth and shame the devil,


SAID GIRL IS AFRAID OF BLACK MEN


That would be closer to the truth.

[trish]

Nonsense. When I was escorting I refused men for having bad teeth, disgusting oder, for being drunk or having bloated egos. It's a seller's market after all. Free and unregulated. No reason not to be discriminating.

There are guys who think "hookers" are shit...the lowest form of life...that what they do is disgusting and immoral as well as illegal. Yet these same guys think there is some sort of moral law that requires a woman to contract with any man that propositions her. To hell with that. Who an escort has diner with and who she fucks is entirely up to her.

There, I told the truth...the devil is shamed.

[PeteIsHere]

When the recession hits and the money starts drying up lets see if those same escorts have the luxury to be discriminating. Paid sex is not a necessity like food, clothing, and shelter, and many of the johns will not have disposable income like they use to.



Nonsense. When I was escorting I refused men for having bad teeth, disgusting oder, for being drunk or having bloated egos. It's a seller's market after all. Free and unregulated. No reason not to be discriminating.

There are guys who think "hookers" are shit...the lowest form of life...that what they do is disgusting and immoral as well as illegal. Yet these same guys think there is some sort of moral law that requires a woman to contract with any man that propositions her. To hell with that. Who an escort has diner with and who she fucks is entirely up to her.

There, I told the truth...the devil is shamed.

[Alyssa87]

from what i understand, when recessions hit, vices like drugs, sex trade, strip clubs, and alcohol use go thru the roof.

[Ralph Lauren]

I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic transsexuals tend to be the most discriminating when it comes to race. Many of the Asian and Hispanic girls on Eros will only provide their services to White males. Even in their personal lives, I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic girls only want to date White males and many will not even date members of their own race. Why do many of these girls prefer white males? I have also noticed that Asian and Hispanic t-girls hate black men. There are many good looking black men out there and it makes no sense in discriminating against them because of their skin color. Why are so many Asian and Hispanic transsexuals so racist? White males aren't the only good looking men out there and in terms of money and power, men of color, whether they are Black, Latino, Arab/Indian, or Asian, are moving up in American society.

i think the most accurate way to answer your question Mr Sinister is to refer this question to the very girls you are questioning. all anyone else can do is guess and suppose, but i don't think we can be accurate enough to speak for someone else's reasons unless we have first hand knowledge.

[mikejones]

I think it's more plausible that everyone has their own unique reasons rather than some collective common cause. I'm a white guy and I prefer Latin girls. I certainly wouldn't rule out a white girl, black, asian or any other, but if I was in a bar and one of each were there I'd probably try to meet the Latina. I just like the way they speak and act. Turns me on.

[PeteIsHere]

Alyssa, based on comments that I have read on another site, some escorts are starting to feel the consequences of the economic downturn, and are getting less calls than usual from clients.

It's possible you will never experience any negative consequences of the recession because you are beautiful and clients will need to see you to ease their pain.





from what i understand, when recessions hit, vices like drugs, sex trade, strip clubs, and alcohol use go thru the roof.

[El_hefe]

Well since no one is honest enough to say it.....I will. Many of the experienced girls feel there is more of a chance that they will be hassled, robbed or hit by dating a young black male.
My ex-girlfriend isn't white, wasn't born in the states with it's fucked up racial attitudes & she told me that this is what she learned after living in NYC & LA.
She was robbed by black guys/girls a couple of times & a lot of verbal, & sometimes physical harassment by them in the bar. Not all black guys, not most black guys, just a consistent pattern from the same demographic that she & most of her friends avoided dealing with them after a while unless they were known friends.
Sorry.

[Nowhere]

Not this dumb form of self-projection AGAIN... :roll:

[fordly66]

You all have overlooked the truth. Black dudes have big dicks. Probably hurts to have anal sex. So there you go. And I'm a white guy.

[AsiaMei]

funny this post came up ...
i got a call yesterday, this guy brought up the same convo.
hes like i really wanna see u, are u okay with bi-racial or black men?.
im like yes, i have no problem - i dont discriminate.
he's all ... most ladies like yourself arent cool with that blahblahblah.

so its safe to say, not all asian/latina ts girls are like that.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Total BULL! In as much as men (tricks) got every right which girl they wanna go for and meet..providers got the same equal rights which guy to meet that at the very least appeals to her. If she cares about her clients, and wants to provide him with the utmost pleasant experience that he is paying for anyways..what's wrong with being selective? Money isn't an aphrodisiac which could make ugly men (regardless of skin color) suddenly attractive! Some providers just have higher tolerance (in accepting whatever types of men they could get) while others not!

I mean, you wouldn't meet a provider (example: BBW) much less pay for her services IF she isn't at PAR to your taste (You're NOT into BBW) am I correct?!?

~Kisses.

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[ARMANIXXX]

funny this post came up ...
i got a call yesterday, this guy brought up the same convo.
hes like i really wanna see u, are u okay with bi-racial or black men?.
im like yes, i have no problem - i dont discriminate.
he's all ... most ladies like yourself arent cool with that blahblahblah.

so its safe to say, not all asian/latina ts girls are like that.



If I'm not mistaken,

you are a Filipino girl.

So, for the most part, you get excluded from this "Asian" part.
I know that Pacific Islander girls like black men..........




And I know why.

:wink:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

FOR CLARITY:

The Philippines (filipino/a) is part is the whole Asian continent ARMANIXXX. lol

Pacific Islander (or Pacific Person, pl: Pacific People, also called Oceanic[s]), is a geographic term to describe the inhabitants of any of the three major sub-regions of Oceania: Polynesia, Melanesia and Micronesia.[1][2] According the the Encyclopaedia Britannica, these three regions, together with their islands consist of:

1. Polynesia: The islands scattered across a triangle covering the east-central region of the Pacific Ocean. The triangle is bounded by the Hawaiian islands in the north, New Zealand in the west, and Easter Island in the east. The rest of Polynesia comprises Samoa (American Samoa and Western Samoa), the Cook Islands, French Polynesia (Tahiti and The Society Islands, Marquesa Islands, Austral Islands, and the Tuamotu Archipelago), Niue Island, Tokelau and Tuvalu, Tonga, Wallis and Futuna, and Pitcairn Island.

2. Melanesia: The island of New Guinea, the Bismarck and Louisiade archipelagos, the Admiralty Islands, and Bougainville Island (which make up the independent state of Papua New Guinea), the Solomon Islands, the Santa Cruz Islands (part of the Solomon Islands), New Caledonia and Loyalty Islands, Vanuatu (formerly New Hebrides), Fiji, Norfolk Island, and various smaller islands.

3. Micronesia: The islands of Kiribati, Guam, Nauru, the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas, the Republic of the Marshall Islands, and the Federated States of Micronesia (Yap, Chuuk, Pohnpei, and Kosrate, all in the Caroline Islands).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Islander

~Kisses.

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[FootConnoisseur]

Sorry ,I got to disagree. It's more than just preference.I'm not racist and I love different nationalities. I love asian women too but I have noticed even when I read GG Asian women Bios on other sites they have even specificly stated they don't want contact with any black men and I see this all the time.

[TomSelis]

Here we go with this shit again. This topic almost ranks up there with "Am I Gay?"

First off, Latin is some strange american construct. There are white latins and black latins and mixed latins. It's very possible to run into a latina that is Central American, trying to pass herself off as white. If you ever watch Latin-American TV you rarely see a black latino, there's a reason for that. If you go to Washington Heights, you'd see a lot of black latins.

Are some girls racist? Yes. You can call it preference or whatever, it still is what it is. Some girls don't like white guys, but will see them as clients. I still wouldn't say Latina and Asians are the most racist.

There is a certain element of racism in this lifestyle. You're just going to have to accept that when you try to meet someone outside of your race. A girl not wanting to see you or date you because you're black is a very real possibility. And there's nothing you can do about it.

I've been an observer of these things for a while now. There's a certain amount of predator/prey going on, on many levels. Sometimes with black men, that role is reversed. I've seen some girls you would be surprised are like that, some guys handle it well and some guys don't.

For the record, black guy with an asian girlfriend.

[unctrld1]

I love when I see ads that say "no Black men" or words to that affect. My money, which is green BTW, will stay in my pocket.

It's their loss, not mine.

[trannybanger]

.... I'd probably try to meet the Latina. I just like the way they speak and act. Turns me on.

its an obvious example that this is a two way street.

racism, stereotyping and discrimination is undeniable a part of all of us. how big of a part, how we handle it and how we project it is what needs to be handled with care

[TomSelis]

It's their loss, not mine.

Words of wisdom.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

For the record, black guy with an asian girlfriend.

There you go! PREACH father Tom! lol ;)

This is really a "case to case basis".

Um, so how about this girl?

http://www.xpeeps.com/member.php?u=636386

She is black but don't want black men..your thoughts?

~Kisses.

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[andyuk]

I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic transsexuals tend to be the most discriminating when it comes to race. Many of the Asian and Hispanic girls on Eros will only provide their services to White males. Even in their personal lives, I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic girls only want to date White males and many will not even date members of their own race. Why do many of these girls prefer white males? I have also noticed that Asian and Hispanic t-girls hate black men. There are many good looking black men out there and it makes no sense in discriminating against them because of their skin color. Why are so many Asian and Hispanic transsexuals so racist? White males aren't the only good looking men out there and in terms of money and power, men of color, whether they are Black, Latino, Arab/Indian, or Asian, are moving up in American society.

actually this post is quite racist.
if they dont want to see black men then that is up to them,i dont see anything racist in it,and do you honestly think looks come into it when your seeing a escort?i would suggest being clean and paying up front and being respectful are far more important

[kaiser1one]

My problem with ppl and their preference is they will never ever break them under any circumstance.

I have a preference for light skin women but I will date any female from anywhere.

My roommate likes light skin chicks(he's white) but he will never deviate from his preference. A black chick was wanting to go out with him and I dunno what he said but she never came back.

To this day he says she was a potential girlfriend. I call bullshit.

[TsVanessa69]

well thats the problem today. The racism card is thrown around too much imnsho..........My girlfreinds say all the time the reason when they escort, they don't see black men is beacuse they are CHEAP, not because they are black! And wanna know the funny part?? They are BLACK themselves. Some people choose not to date transexuals, some people choose not to drink Coca Cola, some peole choose many things. Are they wrong for their choices? Should they be given a negative label because of the chouces they make?? Preference is not racism!!!!

[TsVanessa69]

You all have overlooked the truth. Black dudes have big dicks. Probably hurts to have anal sex. So there you go. And I'm a white guy.
Well let me school you in on something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As an escort and a ts who has been shown MANY hard cocks, there are some really big dicked white boys out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just bcause your not blessed down there, don't diss my white boys. And what about my latino papi's? Go look at some Latino Fan Club porn. Those papi's are packin 10 and 12 inch dicks! Beautiful thick, sometimes uncut cocks! Shit my pussy gets hot jus thinkin about it! So there goes a stereotype that you didn't even need to feed into, because you insulted your own race!

[TsVanessa69]

As a latina transexual, I find this bullshit both insulting and degrading. First of all, I am Puerto Rican, my raices come from Africa and many other parts of the world. The African infulence is very visible in our art, or music, and our food. So aobviously your comment is wrong, As Cubans, Dominicans Puerto Ricans and many more hispanic races have African roots.
Now as a transexual escort. I have observed this: SOMETIMES black clients are more hassle, and want to lowball you spend less money than a girl feels she is worth. So many of my girlfreinds of ALL races PREFER not to see Black clients. For their own safety, for the fact they are not comfortable. Whatever the reason, its the escorts choice on who she see's and who she doesn't. Just because you call my ad and offer me some money, If i CHOOSE to see you or not is up to me. Once again: PREFERENCE is not RACISM!
Now just a more personal not, I date Black and Latin men. True Mostly latino men, but recently the last few guys were black. And they left a bad taste in my mouth because of the bullshit they pulled that I have never been though with a latino YET. One tried to live off of me and use me for a place to stay and he was telling his guy friends how he was just using me, and how I was just a dick suck and money, and the other just ran the streets with his boys till bed time, wanted to come home, fuck and go to sleep, to top it off, this faggot took my credit card out of my purse to pay a deliquent cell phone bill online. When I caught that, luckly the same day, I had to press charges and the bank is going to press charges. Now would I be racist if I choose not to date another black man????

[TsVanessa69]

I love when I see ads that say "no Black men" or words to that affect. My money, which is green BTW, will stay in my pocket.

It's their loss, not mine.
Its called choice! She has the right to choose who she lets into her home and provides a service with HER body too. Maybe because of things black men have done to them in life, they just choose not to do busness with them, like I know girls who have been robbed by black men, or girls who were harrassed alot in school or public by black men so now they have to power to choose, they make that decision. And once again some of those girls are BLACK. So if a black ts escort refuses to see a black client, is she racist too??

[PeteIsHere]

From reading your comments it is obvious the guys you had bad experiences with are thugs. It seems many Tgirls enjoy the company of thugs; I imagine it is because of the feeling of commonality. Thugs like to engage in illegal activities to support themselves and the majority of Tgirls prostitute which is an illegal activity. I hate to say this but it comes down to birds of the same feather flock together.


As a latina transexual, I find this bullshit both insulting and degrading. First of all, I am Puerto Rican, my raices come from Africa and many other parts of the world. The African infulence is very visible in our art, or music, and our food. So aobviously your comment is wrong, As Cubans, Dominicans Puerto Ricans and many more hispanic races have African roots.
Now as a transexual escort. I have observed this: SOMETIMES black clients are more hassle, and want to lowball you spend less money than a girl feels she is worth. So many of my girlfreinds of ALL races PREFER not to see Black clients. For their own safety, for the fact they are not comfortable. Whatever the reason, its the escorts choice on who she see's and who she doesn't. Just because you call my ad and offer me some money, If i CHOOSE to see you or not is up to me. Once again: PREFERENCE is not RACISM!
Now just a more personal not, I date Black and Latin men. True Mostly latino men, but recently the last few guys were black. And they left a bad taste in my mouth because of the bullshit they pulled that I have never been though with a latino YET. One tried to live off of me and use me for a place to stay and he was telling his guy friends how he was just using me, and how I was just a dick suck and money, and the other just ran the streets with his boys till bed time, wanted to come home, fuck and go to sleep, to top it off, this faggot took my credit card out of my purse to pay a deliquent cell phone bill online. When I caught that, luckly the same day, I had to press charges and the bank is going to press charges. Now would I be racist if I choose not to date another black man????

[chefmike]

...there are some really big dicked white boys out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just bcause your not blessed down there, don't diss my white boys.

Damn straight! Props to Vanessa69 for giving big dicked white boys like myself some well-deserved recognition!

Werd.

[hwbs]

:popcorn :popcorn :popcorn

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

...there are some really big dicked white boys out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just bcause your not blessed down there, don't diss my white boys.

Damn straight! Props to Vanessa69 for giving big dicked white boys like myself some well-deserved recognition!

Werd.

Hmm..we need pics ChefMike!! lol

Flaunt it whiteboi! ;)

~Kisses.

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[TsVanessa69]

From reading your comments it is obvious the guys you had bad experiences with are thugs. It seems many Tgirls enjoy the company of thugs; I imagine it is because of the feeling of commonality. Thugs like to engage in illegal activities to support themselves and the majority of Tgirls prostitute which is an illegal activity. I hate to say this but it comes down to birds of the same feather flock together.


As a latina transexual, I find this bullshit both insulting and degrading. First of all, I am Puerto Rican, my raices come from Africa and many other parts of the world. The African infulence is very visible in our art, or music, and our food. So aobviously your comment is wrong, As Cubans, Dominicans Puerto Ricans and many more hispanic races have African roots.
Now as a transexual escort. I have observed this: SOMETIMES black clients are more hassle, and want to lowball you spend less money than a girl feels she is worth. So many of my girlfreinds of ALL races PREFER not to see Black clients. For their own safety, for the fact they are not comfortable. Whatever the reason, its the escorts choice on who she see's and who she doesn't. Just because you call my ad and offer me some money, If i CHOOSE to see you or not is up to me. Once again: PREFERENCE is not RACISM!
Now just a more personal not, I date Black and Latin men. True Mostly latino men, but recently the last few guys were black. And they left a bad taste in my mouth because of the bullshit they pulled that I have never been though with a latino YET. One tried to live off of me and use me for a place to stay and he was telling his guy friends how he was just using me, and how I was just a dick suck and money, and the other just ran the streets with his boys till bed time, wanted to come home, fuck and go to sleep, to top it off, this faggot took my credit card out of my purse to pay a deliquent cell phone bill online. When I caught that, luckly the same day, I had to press charges and the bank is going to press charges. Now would I be racist if I choose not to date another black man????Wow there are some really stereotypiccal asshole on this site! If they enjoyed the company of these black "thugs" as you say and birds of a feather flock together, then why are the girls turning them down and refusing to see them. From this bumb ass remark, seems like they would be inviting them over ASAP instead of turning them down, what an ass!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chefmike]

...there are some really big dicked white boys out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just bcause your not blessed down there, don't diss my white boys.

Damn straight! Props to Vanessa69 for giving big dicked white boys like myself some well-deserved recognition!

Werd.

Hmm..we need pics ChefMike!! lol

Flaunt it whiteboi! ;)

~Kisses.

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LMAO...I knew you'd say that, Hara! You filipino chicks are some horny bitches!

[TsVanessa69]

...there are some really big dicked white boys out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just bcause your not blessed down there, don't diss my white boys.

Damn straight! Props to Vanessa69 for giving big dicked white boys like myself some well-deserved recognition!

Werd.
Yes I have met a few very well hung white boys. The stereotyping is so bad, the poor things though their cocks were just average! And i must say it was a joy to me! One of those few times I get to actually enjou my work. The sad part is, one is bottom only, and soft that cock is a good 9 inched!but yea chef, we need to see pics as proof!! :P

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

...there are some really big dicked white boys out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just bcause your not blessed down there, don't diss my white boys.

Damn straight! Props to Vanessa69 for giving big dicked white boys like myself some well-deserved recognition!

Werd.

Hmm..we need pics ChefMike!! lol

Flaunt it whiteboi! ;)

~Kisses.

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LMAO...I knew you'd say that, Hara! You filipino chicks are some horny bitches!

Not only am I part filipino, I'm also part chinese and part spanish..Add to that being sent in a catholic high school..Go figure! lol ;)

But going back..word is cheap! So post the white tubesteak!! lol

~Kisses.

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[TsVanessa69]

...there are some really big dicked white boys out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just bcause your not blessed down there, don't diss my white boys.

Damn straight! Props to Vanessa69 for giving big dicked white boys like myself some well-deserved recognition!

Werd.

Hmm..we need pics ChefMike!! lol

Flaunt it whiteboi! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

LMAO...I knew you'd say that, Hara! You filipino chicks are some horny bitches!

Not only am I part filipino, I'm also part chinese and part spanish..Add to that being sent in a catholic high school..Go figure! lol ;)

But going back..word is cheap! So post the white tubesteak!! lol

~Kisses.

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My parents made the mistake of sending me to an ALL boys Catholic high school, thinking that would "straighten" me out!
Made me more aware of who I was instead of changing me. I was so out of place and shy there. Lasted a year, that was it. I was more comfortable with woman around so I wouldn't feel out of place, if you guys can understand what I mean

[Solitary Brother]

I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic transsexuals tend to be the most discriminating when it comes to race. Many of the Asian and Hispanic girls on Eros will only provide their services to White males. Even in their personal lives, I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic girls only want to date White males and many will not even date members of their own race. Why do many of these girls prefer white males? I have also noticed that Asian and Hispanic t-girls hate black men. There are many good looking black men out there and it makes no sense in discriminating against them because of their skin color. Why are so many Asian and Hispanic transsexuals so racist? White males aren't the only good looking men out there and in terms of money and power, men of color, whether they are Black, Latino, Arab/Indian, or Asian, are moving up in American society.

Not this again...PLEASE
Be a man and grow some fucking balls!
There are literally BILLIONS of women on this planet.
Surely one will be desperate enough to be with a whiny bitch like you.
I am so sick of guys acting like bitches.
Move on and find someone who is actually interested in you!
JFC!!!!!!!!!!!

[PeteIsHere]

Vanessa, learn to read. I was specifically referring to your circumstances of being taken advantage of by thugs.



From reading your comments it is obvious the guys you had bad experiences with are thugs. It seems many Tgirls enjoy the company of thugs; I imagine it is because of the feeling of commonality. Thugs like to engage in illegal activities to support themselves and the majority of Tgirls prostitute which is an illegal activity. I hate to say this but it comes down to birds of the same feather flock together.


As a latina transexual, I find this bullshit both insulting and degrading. First of all, I am Puerto Rican, my raices come from Africa and many other parts of the world. The African infulence is very visible in our art, or music, and our food. So aobviously your comment is wrong, As Cubans, Dominicans Puerto Ricans and many more hispanic races have African roots.
Now as a transexual escort. I have observed this: SOMETIMES black clients are more hassle, and want to lowball you spend less money than a girl feels she is worth. So many of my girlfreinds of ALL races PREFER not to see Black clients. For their own safety, for the fact they are not comfortable. Whatever the reason, its the escorts choice on who she see's and who she doesn't. Just because you call my ad and offer me some money, If i CHOOSE to see you or not is up to me. Once again: PREFERENCE is not RACISM!
Now just a more personal not, I date Black and Latin men. True Mostly latino men, but recently the last few guys were black. And they left a bad taste in my mouth because of the bullshit they pulled that I have never been though with a latino YET. One tried to live off of me and use me for a place to stay and he was telling his guy friends how he was just using me, and how I was just a dick suck and money, and the other just ran the streets with his boys till bed time, wanted to come home, fuck and go to sleep, to top it off, this faggot took my credit card out of my purse to pay a deliquent cell phone bill online. When I caught that, luckly the same day, I had to press charges and the bank is going to press charges. Now would I be racist if I choose not to date another black man????Wow there are some really stereotypiccal asshole on this site! If they enjoyed the company of these black "thugs" as you say and birds of a feather flock together, then why are the girls turning them down and refusing to see them. From this bumb ass remark, seems like they would be inviting them over ASAP instead of turning them down, what an ass!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TsVanessa69]

I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic transsexuals tend to be the most discriminating when it comes to race. Many of the Asian and Hispanic girls on Eros will only provide their services to White males. Even in their personal lives, I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic girls only want to date White males and many will not even date members of their own race. Why do many of these girls prefer white males? I have also noticed that Asian and Hispanic t-girls hate black men. There are many good looking black men out there and it makes no sense in discriminating against them because of their skin color. Why are so many Asian and Hispanic transsexuals so racist? White males aren't the only good looking men out there and in terms of money and power, men of color, whether they are Black, Latino, Arab/Indian, or Asian, are moving up in American society.

Not this again...PLEASE
Be a man and grow some fucking balls!
There are literally BILLIONS of women on this planet.
Surely one will be desperate enough to be with a whiny bitch like you.
I am so sick of guys acting like bitches.
Move on and find someone who is actually interested in you!
JFC!!!!!!!!!!!
Very true! The things people post on this forum. Its a ts forum full of latina and asian ts featured, and if we are such horrible racist people, why be here? My question to him is, more black ts refues black clients then latina or asian, is that racism too?
As for me, I have had good and bad expierences with clients of ALL races. But to me money is green. As slong as you have the FULL amount to see me, we are good!

[deadlyray]

From this brother's perspective regarding those who don't like us... Who cares?

From what I can tell, escorts are prostitutes. Prostitutes are going for the money and can't take a lot of chances. How many brothers do you know feel like they have to pay for some lovin? Not many. Go with the white guy!

Who is the escort going to get (on average) for more money from? Some white dude or a brother. An escort will have to pry that hundee from my cold dead hand. Please...

I don't know about t-girls, because I have only met one in my life (she doesn't like brothers either, so what). However, there are some (most?) white/latin/asian females that refuse to date black men and a multitude of others who will only date black men. There are some who will date any type of man.

If you are giving me a choice, I'm typically going to pick the black woman. Doesn't that make me racist? I don't know, I just love black women. Oh well.

The typical black man exudes sexual confidence and there are some people (of all sexes) that can't stand that. It's a turn off. A huge one.

Some people just aren't attracted to black men, and that's just the bottom line.

Some people just hate blacks. Oh well. Nothing you can do.

It is not ALL be racism (but we know that some of it is)

[TsVanessa69]

From this brother's perspective regarding those who don't like us... Who cares?

From what I can tell, escorts are prostitutes. Prostitutes are going for the money and can't take a lot of chances. How many brothers do you know feel like they have to pay for some lovin? Not many. Go with the white guy!

Who is the escort going to get (on average) for more money from? Some white dude or a brother. An escort will have to pry that hundee from my cold dead hand. Please...

I don't know about t-girls, because I have only met one in my life (she doesn't like brothers either, so what). However, there are some (most?) white/latin/asian females that refuse to date black men and a multitude of others who will only date black men. There are some who will date any type of man.

If you are giving me a choice, I'm typically going to pick the black woman. Doesn't that make me racist? I don't know, I just love black women. Oh well.

The typical black man exudes sexual confidence and there are some people (of all sexes) that can't stand that. It's a turn off. A huge one.

Some people just aren't attracted to black men, and that's just the bottom line.

Some people just hate blacks. Oh well. Nothing you can do.

It is not ALL be racism (but we know that some of it is) Yea I don't get why somebody would be mad they can't see an escort?/ If they were all that, they wouldn't be paying in the first place. I can deal with a black man and not charge him.

[justatransgirl]

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[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Um.. so ok, what you you call people (providers and non providers aka regular folks) who refuses to see/meet and or have sex with FAT people? Do you call them FATCIST or is it preference?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fatcist

~Kisses.

HTG

[ShadowMaster]

What's the difference between preference and racism?

Preference- is having a strong affinity for a particular quality
Racism/Bigotry- is having a preconceived negative emotion towards someone or group based off a physical attribute whether it be skin tone, weight, etc.

Do the ladies have the right to choose who they will and will not interact with? Absolutely especially due to the interpersonal interaction required for the profession.

I think what hurts most who are victims is that someone is passively accusing you of something. The person is assuming that I'm a thief or whatever ill-thing that haunts their nightmares. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about it except abstain from that particular provider's services. This is not like going to McDonalds and the Klansmen at the counter won't accept your cash. If you could make this provider service you would you really want it? You need to remember who you are and no one's ill-conceived notions can change that. Bottomline they're not worth your time.

If a black person refuses to service another (whatever enterprise) black person simply for being black is that racism? Yes, it's called interracism and it happens to. I think that form hurts more than any other because it makes you wonder how that person inherently perceives his or herself. But you can't save somebody from their own personal demons. More than likely that person has interpersonal issues. A person can like White/Latino/Asian guys without hating black guys. When you hold animosity towards a stranger for something they haven't done to your knowledge that's a whole different thing.

As far as dating slugs. I think everybody should do a little self-analysis on that one. I've seen females date the same type of assholes over and over again yet were continually shocked that the dude was a bastard. If you have a pattern of dating such dregs then I think the solution is to look inward. I hypothesize the female in question fell in love with a thug some time ago but it didn't work out. However she never flushed her system so she keeps picking up these dudes reliving the same pattern attempting to fix them. She wanted her previous lover to be something he was not and she failed to accept it. Or she doesn't think very highly of herself so she subconsciously seeks out dudes to reinforce her sense of poor self-image. You only get what you think you deserve. The vast majority of the time someone was a piece shit they subtle or not so subtle things to let you know what kind of person they truly were. The question is did you ignore and hope it would get better instead of accepting the truth and kicking them to the curb like any good bag of trash?

For those being fairly being scrutinized, don't poison your own soul by hating them because your energy could be better spent loving someone else.

[PapiQueRico]

Sounds like a personal problem if you can't get a date. Don't try to generalize you shortcummings :lol:

[mbf]

LMAO...I knew you'd say that, Hara! You filipino chicks are some horny bitches!

Where chefmike is right, he is right. Filipinas make the horniest chicks, especially if they are t-chicks.

ooops, boooooo at me for another racial stereotype......

[melissacarter]

As for me, I have had good and bad expierences with clients of ALL races. But to me money is green. As slong as you have the FULL amount to see me, we are good!

Couldn't agree with you more!

[sucka4chix]

FINALLY another racism thread to breathe life into this forum!!

1st I'd like to point out the OP said they discriminate in their personal lives too, but everyone wants to jump into the "an escort can be selective" bullshit.

2nd, and contrary to the opinions of many girls I know and love, ANY girl who says " I don't date black men" is a racist! ANY!
I'm so tired of people trying to be PC and call it a preference. A preference is not exclusive, it merely RANKS what you like MORE than others. Saying I don't date black men is exclusive. Yes, Alannah there's a difference between preference and prejudice. If you exclude a person based on a preconceived notion of what they're like, that's PREJUDICE! If you see me in the club and say you're not attracted to me, that's preference. If I call you on the phone and you say you don't date black guys, that's prejudice. Of ALL the peoples on the planet, blacks are the most varied. There's a reason why but that's another topic. A black person can be as dark as night or as light as day. So you would think they would be the LAST group of people you should discriminate against based on looks. To say "I won't see you" merely because I utter the word black when you diabolically ask me what race I am is ludicrous! Illogical even!
I'm not saying an escort doesn't have a right... Well no, she doesn't have rights because it's an illegal enterprise, but she can conduct her business as she sees fit. Just have the courage to admit you're a racist when you are one. AT THE VERY LEAST, ADMIT YOU'RE RACIAL PROFILING.
You can hide behind preference all you want, but like someone said the TRUTH is it is drilled into these girls heads that black guys are more trouble than they're worth. That's it! Everything else is bullshit and people afraid to take responsibility for their own feelings.
I worked in the service industry for 10 years and dated a girl who did the same. We're both black and we both hated serving black people. That wasn't a preference, it was racism. I don't have a problem with that and I will tell anyone who wants to know from a business standpoint I'm a racist. You girls need to accept facts. You're racist! Get over it.

[sucka4chix]

I love when I see ads that say "no Black men" or words to that affect. My money, which is green BTW, will stay in my pocket.

It's their loss, not mine.
Its called choice! She has the right to choose who she lets into her home and provides a service with HER body too. Maybe because of things black men have done to them in life, they just choose not to do busness with them, like I know girls who have been robbed by black men, or girls who were harrassed alot in school or public by black men so now they have to power to choose, they make that decision. And once again some of those girls are BLACK. So if a black ts escort refuses to see a black client, is she racist too??
Yep, she's a racist

[chefmike]

I worked in the service industry for 10 years and dated a girl who did the same. We're both black and we both hated serving black people.

That kind of thing is not uncommon in the service industry. I also know asian servers who don't like serving asians...go figure.

[sucka4chix]

Um.. so ok, what you you call people (providers and non providers aka regular folks) who refuses to see/meet and or have sex with FAT people? Do you call them FATCIST or is it preference?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fatcist

~Kisses.

HTG
Hara Hara Hara! Well I would call them a FATTIST, but you're question gets to the heart of the matter. You can easily define fat. You can pretty much say without a doubt every 500 lb guy us going to cause undue stress on your bed. No such blanket statements can be made based on someones ethnicity. Apples and oranges

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

LOL@undue stress on your bed statement! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[sucka4chix]

well thats the problem today. The racism card is thrown around too much imnsho..........My girlfreinds say all the time the reason when they escort, they don't see black men is beacuse they are CHEAP, not because they are black! And wanna know the funny part?? They are BLACK themselves. Some people choose not to date transexuals, some people choose not to drink Coca Cola, some peole choose many things. Are they wrong for their choices? Should they be given a negative label because of the chouces they make?? Preference is not racism!!!!
Dammit girl! Don't you see that is racism and prejudice defined "black men are cheap"! Thank you for making my point! Saying black are cheap is not expressing a PREFERENCE. It is a preconceived notion based on someones own past experience and not factual. Black men are not cheap! Most black men may be, but no one will know unless they meet ALL black men. Unless you've met all black men, then to say black men are cheap is prejudice!!!
I'm noticing that some people think that if their feelings are justified, then there not racist, and that's simply not true. If every black you ever met spit in your face, no one would blame you for hating black men. You'd still be a racist. Just no one could blame you for being the racist you are.
Oh, and every coke is the same so hopefully you can see how woefully ridiculous that metaphor was! Sadly, so many think like you do and don't see the difference.

[sucka4chix]

LOL@undue stress on your bed statement! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG
actually I can imagine anyone in bed with you would try to "tear it up"
:P

[BrendaQG]

So much to take in on this thread. Prejudice or preference? Or are black men just cheap?

First I would like to point this one thing out. These preferences and prejudices are a two way street. Their have been many situations where a guy will ask me what race I am then act disappointed or hang up because I say I am black or mixed between black, Native, and White. (I guess that depending on how I present myself with a straight haired wig or without one I confuse some people. This happens to others in my family at times.) So I would say that it clearly is a two way street. But that's ok everyone has a right to choose with 100% freedom who they will have sex with.

There may be a little something to the point that the black men girls have trouble with are not just black, but they are thugs aside from that. I had this one guy, very black, who lived down town, in a nice condo by the river, always paid as agreed, no haggle no hassle. (He stopped seeing me said "It's like your trying to make me cum too fast." Like I have any real control over that.) I have to admit over the phone talking to him the first time I did not think he was black. He spoke in an educated manner and moreover he did not have the attitude that many black men have towards transsexuals. Every black man that has actually completed the transaction has been like him. They are not common.

OTOH out in a suburb not far from where I used to live a black guy stole the money from me and threw me out. I let my guard down because the person lived just a stones throw away. Didn't listen to my instincts

I will say this the way you approach a girl any girl on the phone is the real problem. If you have the usual black attitude you know. It's like they are thinking "I'm so hot I'm so cool and smooth I can get sex anywhere from anyone. I'm goona say 200 then when she get's here say 100 then when she has her clothes off and I'm 6" in say 50...." That attitude is why girls won't see you w or w/o money. Drop the tude and maybe just maybe some girls will see you.

[WendyWilliams]

I have to disagree with my sister Vanessa about guys who see escorts: I have a large majority of men who coud get any girl he wanted however would rather pay to see a ts for alot of reasons: Some just dont want the hassle of finding a girl and just want the sex, few just want too experiement, some dont want to take the chance of being seen in a ts club looking for a girl. The myth that men seeing escorts are old, bald ugly men is hardly the case for me. Though I have a few of those on the other hand I have a large very good looking clientale.

Now to the statement about racism: Let me say this I enjoy black men in my personal life therefore I dont care to see them when working, in fact I make more money in cities like DC because very few white ts come there who do see black men or atleast enjoy it, HOWEVER sorry to the guys but the majority of my problems and run arounds have been with black males. Though some of my biggest spenders are black males on the average every city my problem guys who want to negotiate, are aggressive, try to give me the run around, show up without the full amount, etcc have been my black clients. I have had other men of diff. races do the same but not as much as my black guys. So in all fairness Im sure some of it stems from racism but ALOT of it from a business standpoint is about who you just prefer to see!

[yosi]

I am a white who prefers non-white women/ts

this way I am a racist against my own race - white.

if I preferred white only women , I would be also a racist against non white .

so if I am a racist both ways , maybe I'm not a racist at all? :wink:

I would never open such thread because racism never come across my mind , simple as that.

so the one who opened this thread.............. 8)

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

LOL@undue stress on your bed statement! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG
actually I can imagine anyone in bed with you would try to "tear it up"
:P

lol They won't be tearing anything if they weigh over 200lbs. and are below 6ft. I can tell you that much! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[TsVanessa69]

I have to disagree with my sister Vanessa about guys who see escorts: I have a large majority of men who coud get any girl he wanted however would rather pay to see a ts for alot of reasons: Some just dont want the hassle of finding a girl and just want the sex, few just want too experiement, some dont want to take the chance of being seen in a ts club looking for a girl. The myth that men seeing escorts are old, bald ugly men is hardly the case for me. Though I have a few of those on the other hand I have a large very good looking clientale.


Oh how I envy you Wendy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do agree with your statement, but u got all those hot dreamy, clients and I got stuck with the other ones!
What am I doing wrong???????
But the points you make about guys using escorts is true, no matter how they look.
But if your telling me that there is a large amount of good looking clentele out there , shit hook ya sista up! lol

[WendyWilliams]

LOL I never said they were all dreamy LOL

I would say about 40 percent of mine are good looking guys. And of course every once in awhile one that makes my knees weak comes through.

I was just commenting on the myth that men who see escorts are ugly men who cant get sex, certainly not true.

[kalina]

Are you referring to American-born Asians or Asian-born Asians? Many girls born in Asia don't like anyone other than Asians. It's the way they were raised. My mother is a big racist in that way.

Me, I'm equal opportunity. I was born in Brooklyn, NY. Look here and scroll down to see all the pics of all the guys with different nationalities:

http://www.transvamp.com/kalinapix/guys/index.html

[TsVanessa69]

LOL I never said they were all dreamy LOL

I would say about 40 percent of mine are good looking guys. And of course every once in awhile one that makes my knees weak comes through.

I was just commenting on the myth that men who see escorts are ugly men who cant get sex, certainly not true.
What you say is true adnd yes it is a stereotype, I was just irratated at the poster and was being shady, thats all.
My knee weakening clientele is only about 15percent :cry:

[sucka4chix]

I make more money in cities like DC because very few white ts come there who do see black men or atleast enjoy it, HOWEVER sorry to the guys but the majority of my problems and run arounds have been with black males. Though some of my biggest spenders are black males on the average every city my problem guys who want to negotiate, are aggressive, try to give me the run around, show up without the full amount, etcc have been my black clients. I have had other men of diff. races do the same but not as much as my black guys.
See, I can respect that! I think 99% of girls who don't see black guys feel the same way, but they lie and say it's just not my thing or I'm not attracted to black guys, it's my SEXUAL preference. Just be honest like Wendy and say "I've had an inordinate amount of problems with black guys". My mom told me years ago sometimes the good have to suffer with the bad.

[trish]

See, I can respect that! I think 99% of girls who don't see black guys feel the same way, but they lie...

How do you know what you think about 99% of girls corresponds to the truth about 99% of girls. You just stated a predisposition to think a certain way without providing a smidgen of evidence. That's called prejudging.

[sucka4chix]

See, I can respect that! I think 99% of girls who don't see black guys feel the same way, but they lie...

How do you know what you think about 99% of girls corresponds to the truth about 99% of girls. You just stated a predisposition to think a certain way without providing a smidgen of evidence. That's called prejudging.

I don't have to provide evidence about what I THINK! That is my OPINION. And furthermore, unlike 99.876% (that's a fact) of people I have no problem admitting I prejudge. EVERYONE does at some time. My point is people here deny that FACT!

[kalina]

I don't have to provide evidence about what I THINK! That is my OPINION. And furthermore, unlike 99.876% (that's a fact) of people I have no problem admitting I prejudge. EVERYONE does at some time. My point is people here deny that FACT!

Opinions are fine. If you prejudge because you don't know, that's different from prejudging because you know and being vicious about it. Some people honestly believe that someone is dumber than someone else based on skin color, where they live, what their income level is, or even what religion or politics they believe in. Others know there is no difference but still abuse others because they're vicious.

[trish]

...unlike 99.876% (that's a fact) of people...

that's (as you said) is your OPINION, NOT A FACT.

[JANIRA]

I have noticed many of the girls I know tend to not see Black or Hispanic men who request their services.. Their belief is that they tend to give problems , will try and cheat you, and get violent...etc.... Honestly as a Tgirl, and a Hispanic one at that,, i find it "TOTALLY RIDICULOUS" They think that the Black & Hispanic men will cause problems , but cacuasian men won't...?? Please!!!!......lol ...God forbid but any race can be just as problamatic, what makes Caucasian men so much better than the other races,,, The fact that they might have money, and have a high paying job and have class, be well mannered..... " Black & Hispanic men do to..".
I mean i have had strange experiances with all races it does not mean i completely rule them out just cause that happen, i just got to be more alert.


Well having said that now onto the topic about dating or having a LTR with a Black or Hispanic men... yes i would actually most definitally would. I dont see color when it comes to matters of the heart i see how the person makes me feel, if there is a strong chemistry, attraction, if he is honest, and most important he does not care what others think.


Just my 5cents....

[sucka4chix]

...unlike 99.876% (that's a fact) of people...

that's (as you said) is your OPINION, NOT A FACT.

That was not meant to be serious...99.876 c'mon!!! Catch a clue!!

[trish]

touche' 8)

[josue]

ok

[antiasskisser]

Many times it is RACIAL DISCRIMINATION that causes some of these "minority" girls to refuse service to black men.

Why?

One reason is many of the Hispanic and Asian (non pacific islander) girls are immigrants, both legal and illegal, themselves. As has been described to me, the media that they show on television in their own countries, in similar fashion to much of the media here in America, they show black people committing crimes, in jail, homeless, poor and destitute, and on Flava Flav.

So when I piece that information with the information of the educational status (lack of) in their countries, and it doesn't surprise me that many Asians and many Hispanics (especially Mexicans) do not like black people all that much, even though, in many cases, they've never even met one.Well said Armani. And as a black man, I personally am repulsed by asian trannies. Most of them look like fucking men to me. So it never bothers me that they don't like black men.

[antiasskisser]

Natassia dream doesnt like black men eitherNo big loss on my end. She never did anything for me anyway. Doesn't turn me on in the least.

[trannybanger]

I would really be interested to know what people actually know about the inferences they have made about cultures other than their own.

So immigrants and foreigners are supposed to not have preconceived notions, but some people feel they are justified to have their predisposed opinions about them and where the come from?

Discrimination comes in many forms, and part of moving in a positive direction is looking inward and realizing that many of you are just as racist as others if not more but don't admit it to yourself. Until you have lived someplace for an extended period of time, dealt with the same situations as a person and suffered the same discriminations you have no room to comment on another's perspective.

[antiasskisser]

What's the difference between preference and racism?

Preference- is having a strong affinity for a particular quality
Racism/Bigotry- is having a preconceived negative emotion towards someone or group based off a physical attribute whether it be skin tone, weight, etc.
Do the ladies have the right to choose who they will and will not interact with? Absolutely especially due to the interpersonal interaction required for the profession.

I think what hurts most who are victims is that someone is passively accusing you of something. The person is assuming that I'm a thief or whatever ill-thing that haunts their nightmares. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about it except abstain from that particular provider's services. This is not like going to McDonalds and the Klansmen at the counter won't accept your cash. If you could make this provider service you would you really want it? You need to remember who you are and no one's ill-conceived notions can change that. Bottomline they're not worth your time.

If a black person refuses to service another (whatever enterprise) black person simply for being black is that racism? Yes, it's called interracism and it happens to. I think that form hurts more than any other because it makes you wonder how that person inherently perceives his or herself. But you can't save somebody from their own personal demons. More than likely that person has interpersonal issues. A person can like White/Latino/Asian guys without hating black guys. When you hold animosity towards a stranger for something they haven't done to your knowledge that's a whole different thing.

As far as dating slugs. I think everybody should do a little self-analysis on that one. I've seen females date the same type of assholes over and over again yet were continually shocked that the dude was a bastard. If you have a pattern of dating such dregs then I think the solution is to look inward. I hypothesize the female in question fell in love with a thug some time ago but it didn't work out. However she never flushed her system so she keeps picking up these dudes reliving the same pattern attempting to fix them. She wanted her previous lover to be something he was not and she failed to accept it. Or she doesn't think very highly of herself so she subconsciously seeks out dudes to reinforce her sense of poor self-image. You only get what you think you deserve. The vast majority of the time someone was a piece shit they subtle or not so subtle things to let you know what kind of person they truly were. The question is did you ignore and hope it would get better instead of accepting the truth and kicking them to the curb like any good bag of trash?

For those being fairly being scrutinized, don't poison your own soul by hating them because your energy could be better spent loving someone else.Yeah, that says it all. Some girls operate under preference, some are flat out racist. Just because you get fucked over by a memeber of a certain race doesn't mean that all of them will do the same. It also doesn't mean a member of the white race won't do it too. Ask Danielle Foxx. So what some girls do is generalize an entire race from a couple of bad experiences. And that my friends is RACISM.

[antiasskisser]

I would really be interested to know what people actually know about the inferences they have made about cultures other than their own.

So immigrants and foreigners are supposed to not have preconceived notions, but some people feel they are justified to have their predisposed opinions about them and where the come from?
Discrimination comes in many forms, and part of moving in a positive direction is looking inward and realizing that many of you are just as racist as others if not more but don't admit it to yourself. Until you have lived someplace for an extended period of time, dealt with the same situations as a person and suffered the same discriminations you have no room to comment on another's perspective.Dude, I used to live in LA. I never had any preconceived notions about mexicans. i treated them like brothers. But came to find out that they loathe blacks. Now today, I generally hate fucking mexicans, but I know there are a few cool ones around. Just like any other race.

[antiasskisser]

I have noticed many of the girls I know tend to not see Black or Hispanic men who request their services.. Their belief is that they tend to give problems , will try and cheat you, and get violent...etc.... Honestly as a Tgirl, and a Hispanic one at that,, i find it "TOTALLY RIDICULOUS" They think that the Black & Hispanic men will cause problems , but cacuasian men won't...?? Please!!!!......lol ...God forbid but any race can be just as problamatic, what makes Caucasian men so much better than the other races,,, The fact that they might have money, and have a high paying job and have class, be well mannered..... " Black & Hispanic men do to..".
I mean i have had strange experiances with all races it does not mean i completely rule them out just cause that happen, i just got to be more alert.


Well having said that now onto the topic about dating or having a LTR with a Black or Hispanic men... yes i would actually most definitally would. I dont see color when it comes to matters of the heart i see how the person makes me feel, if there is a strong chemistry, attraction, if he is honest, and most important he does not care what others think.


Just my 5cents....A-FUCKING-MEN

[trannybanger]

Dude, I used to live in LA. I never had any preconceived notions about mexicans. i treated them like brothers. But came to find out that they loathe blacks. Now today, I generally hate fucking mexicans, but I know there are a few cool ones around. Just like any other race.

can we count the generalizations in this statement here??

and plenty of us have lived in L.A., and it is not Mexico

[antiasskisser]

Dude, I used to live in LA. I never had any preconceived notions about mexicans. i treated them like brothers. But came to find out that they loathe blacks. Now today, I generally hate fucking mexicans, but I know there are a few cool ones around. Just like any other race.

can we count the generalizations in this statement here??

and plenty of us have lived in L.A., and it is not MexicoPOINT IS, THEY GENERALIZED ME. I WAS OPEN TO TREATING THEM FAIRLY AND WITH RESPECT AND THEY PRETTY MUCH SHOWED ME HOW THEY FELT ABOUT BLACKS. ARE YOU BLACK? MUST NOT BE CAUSE IF YOU WERE AND LIVED IN A HEAVILY POPULATED MEXICAN AREA, YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT I WAS SAYING. WALK IN THE SHOES BEFORE YOU CRITISIZE WHAT SOMEONE SAYS.

[trannybanger]

POINT IS, THEY GENERALIZED ME. I WAS OPEN TO TREATING THEM FAIRLY AND WITH RESPECT AND THEY PRETTY MUCH SHOWED ME HOW THEY FELT ABOUT BLACKS. ARE YOU BLACK? MUST NOT BE CAUSE IF YOU WERE AND LIVED IN A HEAVILY POPULATED MEXICAN AREA, YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT I WAS SAYING. WALK IN THE SHOES BEFORE YOU CRITISIZE WHAT SOMEONE SAYS.

Open to treating them fairly? How nobel of you.

An entire nation showed YOU how they feel as a whole about blacks? I am sure they are united on their sentiments as much as everyone in this country.


You have no idea, no matter how you choose to generalize, whether I am black or not. It is irrelevant anyhow. I said to walk in someone's shoes,...

YOU said: "And as a black man, I personally am repulsed by asian trannies. Most of them look like fucking men to me. So it never bothers me that they don't like black men." As well as your kind comments about Natassia Dreams. So you have made rude racist remarks about numerous types already.


Now really, could you be anymore of a fucking bigot?

[antiasskisser]

POINT IS, THEY GENERALIZED ME. I WAS OPEN TO TREATING THEM FAIRLY AND WITH RESPECT AND THEY PRETTY MUCH SHOWED ME HOW THEY FELT ABOUT BLACKS. ARE YOU BLACK? MUST NOT BE CAUSE IF YOU WERE AND LIVED IN A HEAVILY POPULATED MEXICAN AREA, YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT I WAS SAYING. WALK IN THE SHOES BEFORE YOU CRITISIZE WHAT SOMEONE SAYS.

Open to treating them fairly? How nobel of you.

An entire nation showed YOU how they feel as a whole about blacks? I am sure they are united on their sentiments as much as everyone in this country.


You have no idea, no matter how you choose to generalize, whether I am black or not. It is irrelevant anyhow. I said to walk in someone's shoes,...

YOU said: "And as a black man, I personally am repulsed by asian trannies. Most of them look like fucking men to me. So it never bothers me that they don't like black men." As well as your kind comments about Natassia Dreams. So you have made rude racist remarks about numerous types already.


Now really, could you be anymore of a fucking bigot?So fucking what!!!!! I say what I feel. I'm not gonna lie. Call it what you want. And I'm sure I could find others that agree with my sentiments also. AND ITS NEVER IRRELEVENT WHETER YOUR BLACK OR NOT. That kind of thinking could get you hurt around certain blacks. Its insulting for you as a non-black to say that our skin color is irrelevent in the way we are treated. Say that shit in the hood and come back with a report. I doubt you make it back.

[trannybanger]

So fucking what!!!!! I say what I feel. I'm not gonna lie. Call it what you want. And I'm sure I could find others that agree with my sentiments also. AND ITS NEVER IRRELEVENT WHETER YOUR BLACK OR NOT. That kind of thinking could get you hurt around certain blacks. Its insulting for you as a non-black to say that our skin color is irrelevent in the way we are treated. Say that shit in the hood and come back with a report. I doubt you make it back.

You are obviously brilliant so I will try once more to make it clear to you and then I am done.

First of all, I said it was irrelevant what color my skin was, not your or anyone elses. Apparently you place a level of value on someone's comment based on the color of their skin, I do not. Do you really believe "blacks" in the U.S. are treated that poorly? really have it that bad? Have you been anywhere else in the world? Take a guess at why so many people immigrate to the U.S. regardless of race or gender.

People with your ignorant, close minded bigotry are the problem in society. And your response is you "say what you feel". Priceless.

And for the record I am of mixed race, you have any idea how difficult that can be? You have no idea where I am from, what neighborhood I grew up in or how, so if you actually think you can babble some shit like "say that shit in the hood, and come back with a report, doubt you make it back", are you fucking serious? Watch something other than New Jack City, read a book, and broaden your cultural horizons cause it appears you are seriously lacking.

And the next time you are hanging out with Al Sharpton lamenting about your struggle of a life as a black guy with the world against him, make sure you mention to him how much you like the tranny cock.

-

[antiasskisser]

So fucking what!!!!! I say what I feel. I'm not gonna lie. Call it what you want. And I'm sure I could find others that agree with my sentiments also. AND ITS NEVER IRRELEVENT WHETER YOUR BLACK OR NOT. That kind of thinking could get you hurt around certain blacks. Its insulting for you as a non-black to say that our skin color is irrelevent in the way we are treated. Say that shit in the hood and come back with a report. I doubt you make it back.

You are obviously brilliant so I will try once more to make it clear to you and then I am done.

First of all, I said it was irrelevant what color my skin was, not your or anyone elses. Apparently you place a level of value on someone's comment based on the color of their skin, I do not. Do you really believe "blacks" in the U.S. are treated that poorly? really have it that bad? Have you been anywhere else in the world? Take a guess at why so many people immigrate to the U.S. regardless of race or gender.

People with your ignorant, close minded bigotry are the problem in society. And your response is you "say what you feel". Priceless.

And for the record I am of mixed race, you have any idea how difficult that can be? You have no idea where I am from, what neighborhood I grew up in or how, so if you actually think you can babble some shit like "say that shit in the hood, and come back with a report, doubt you make it back", are you fucking serious? Watch something other than New Jack City, read a book, and broaden your cultural horizons cause it appears you are seriously lacking.

And the next time you are hanging out with Al Sharpton lamenting about your struggle of a life as a black guy with the world against him, make sure you mention to him how much you like the tranny cock.

- :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep

[PapiQueRico]

Obama is going to be president and you guys are still crying about racism?? In 2008, there are people walking around with their pants hanging off their ass still blaming their problems on slavery? If a girl doesn't want to sleep with your ass, all of a sudden she is racists? If she is black, then she is another angry black women or one into self hate. Stop making excuses and be a man! Read a fVckin book ... get a clue!! Go listen to Bill Cosby's speech and stop bitchin.

[unctrld1]

I love when I see ads that say "no Black men" or words to that affect. My money, which is green BTW, will stay in my pocket.

It's their loss, not mine.
Its called choice! She has the right to choose who she lets into her home and provides a service with HER body too. Maybe because of things black men have done to them in life, they just choose not to do busness with them, like I know girls who have been robbed by black men, or girls who were harrassed alot in school or public by black men so now they have to power to choose, they make that decision. And once again some of those girls are BLACK. So if a black ts escort refuses to see a black client, is she racist too??
Yep, she's a racist

Yes, I concur.

Self Hate is a MF'er

[trish]

In defense of Vanessa:

Look. There are not that many judgments a girl needs to make in deciding whether to accept a trick or not. This would be different if she were looking for a boyfriend or a potential partner. The only JUDGMENTS to be made about a potential trick concern his cleanliness, his sanity, his ability and willingness to pay and whether he’s law enforcement. Everything else a girl considers falls under the category of preferences: her preferences. If, for example, I like tumbling in the hay with wonderfully obese men and not with skinny men, that would be a sexual fetish (i.e. a preference) and not a prejudice. Indeed I may have no PREJUDGMENTS concerning lean men. I may realize some are smart and some are stupid. Some are clean and some are filthy. Some are rich and some are poor. Some are great lovers and some are so-so. It may simply be the case that I just don’t want to have sex with bony men. That’s not prejudice, that’s merely catering to one’s own desires, preferences and fetishes even when on the job. I never eat escargot, whether I’m an escort or not. That’s not prejudice against snails. I’ve tried them. I don’t hate them. I can understand why they’re rightly considered a delicacy. But you can’t pay me to eat them either. I’m not going to put them in MY body.

Everyone on these forums knows I’m the first to call out racists and haters. Hostile called me a racist about eight times just last week for defending Obama. But in this case, what you guys don’t see is that it’s not always about YOU. When it comes to our bodies, WE girls decide who’s going to touch it and under what circumstances. You don’t have a voice in that decision.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

When it comes to our bodies, WE girls decide who’s going to touch it and under what circumstances. You don’t have a voice in that decision.

Nicely put trish. Short and to the point! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[PeteIsHere]

Vanessa doesn't know her ass from her elbow. She has rocks for brains. Why would anyone in their right mind want to defend Vanessa?



In defense of Vanessa:

Look. There are not that many judgments a girl needs to make in deciding whether to accept a trick or not. This would be different if she were looking for a boyfriend or a potential partner. The only JUDGMENTS to be made about a potential trick concern his cleanliness, his sanity, his ability and willingness to pay and whether he’s law enforcement. Everything else a girl considers falls under the category of preferences: her preferences. If, for example, I like tumbling in the hay with wonderfully obese men and not with skinny men, that would be a sexual fetish (i.e. a preference) and not a prejudice. Indeed I may have no PREJUDGMENTS concerning lean men. I may realize some are smart and some are stupid. Some are clean and some are filthy. Some are rich and some are poor. Some are great lovers and some are so-so. It may simply be the case that I just don’t want to have sex with bony men. That’s not prejudice, that’s merely catering to one’s own desires, preferences and fetishes even when on the job. I never eat escargot, whether I’m an escort or not. That’s not prejudice against snails. I’ve tried them. I don’t hate them. I can understand why they’re rightly considered a delicacy. But you can’t pay me to eat them either. I’m not going to put them in MY body.

Everyone on these forums knows I’m the first to call out racists and haters. Hostile called me a racist about eight times just last week for defending Obama. But in this case, what you guys don’t see is that it’s not always about YOU. When it comes to our bodies, WE girls decide who’s going to touch it and under what circumstances. You don’t have a voice in that decision.

[SweedFish21]

The whole preference thing is a cop-out if your going to be racist just be upfront with it. You might get some more respect that way but sugar coating it and saying "it's my body,my preference,etc" is a joke. Your acting as if your bodies are temples............ if they really were than.....you know I don't really have to finish the rest.

[tsntx]

The whole preference thing is a cop-out if your going to be racist just be upfront with it. You might get some more respect that way but sugar coating it and saying "it's my body,my preference,etc" is a joke. Your acting as if your bodies are temples............ if they really were than.....you know I don't really have to finish the rest.\

isnt someone saying they arent interested when you call ... being up front? :roll:

[trish]

Your acting as if your bodies are temples............ if they really were than.....you know I don't really have to finish the rest.

There's a mysogynist line if ever there was one. :roll: We're not acting as if our bodies were temples, we're just reminding you that they are OUR bodies and WE decide who touches them and under what circumstances. No external moral claims (cries of bigotry and whines of racism) have a voice in those decisions.

I know it's hard for you guys to hear that. For millennia women have been regarded are property and possessions. We aren't temples. But we do belong to ourselves alone.

[SweedFish21]

Another thing I noticed is that 99% of the time I call a "escort" she ask me my race but they never ask me for my height,or my weight, or a picture of me....I guess they have no preference over actual looks....just color :roll:.

[Legend]

This topic has been rehashed time and time again and ends up nowhere,seriously there are far more important issues involving race then this.There seems to be more involvement from members about escorts not seeing them then really important threads about race.

[slinky]

Any decisions based solely on race are racist. Period.

If a black girl doesn't see black guys, yes, that's still racist because it's a decision based solely on race.

Now, this is separate from the issue of "shouldn't girls be able to choose who they see?". My answer is "yes, they should have the right to choose". But if their choice is that they won't see a guy based solely on his race, they can't get away with saying that this isn't a racist decision.

We're all prisoners of our life experiences: a cat sits on a hot stove, it never sits on a hot stove again. It doesn't sit on cold stoves, either. It just avoids the kitchen altogether. A girl has a few bad experiences and it's easy to associate these past bad experiences with any group who those guys might have belonged to. The easiest thing to associate anyone with is their race, because it's visually obvious (to some extent). So, if a girl has a few bad experiences with guys who are of the same race, she might easily associate the behaviour with that race. But it doesn't mean it's real, just a knee jerk reaction. This leads to making racist decisions. And since almost no one wants to label themselves as a racist, they don't want to admit to making racist choices, so they want to say "it's not racist, it's just a preference". But it really is racist and they don't want to be tarred with that label.

[Legend]

Real important threads involving race issues do not generate this much attention,its always the escorts ones.

[Legend]

I remember posting the jena 6 and no one seemed to care about it all that much.

[sucka4chix]

All you girls trying to defend this based on preference and "our bodies" nonsense need to sit down and relax for a few minutes. When you're relaxed, imagine a guy calls you for a date. You ask him what nationality he is. He says he's black. Now...
What's the next thing that goes through your mind? What self-talk do you engage in? Honestly?!

[Solitary Brother]

Well since no one is honest enough to say it.....I will. Many of the experienced girls feel there is more of a chance that they will be hassled, robbed or hit by dating a young black male.
My ex-girlfriend isn't white, wasn't born in the states with it's fucked up racial attitudes & she told me that this is what she learned after living in NYC & LA.
She was robbed by black guys/girls a couple of times & a lot of verbal, & sometimes physical harassment by them in the bar. Not all black guys, not most black guys, just a consistent pattern from the same demographic that she & most of her friends avoided dealing with them after a while unless they were known friends.
Sorry.



I have to comment on this.
Its quite unfortunate that the only image SOME WHITE PEOPLE HAVE OF BLACKS is the media and what they see in public.
What they generally see in public is NOT NICE.
I will explain.
Most white and NON-BLACKS generally interact with blacks on public transportation or DMV or McDonalds or some other public venue such as malls and whatnot.
These venues are usually populated by the younger generation of black folks and that is where the problem USUALLY lies.
Their behavior is atrocious.
Im on public transit 6HOURS a day 5 days a week and I am a keen observer.
Black peoples behavior and general demeanor is atrocious!
Loud,always using foul language and LIBERAL use of the "N" word.
You all have been there and know I speak the truth.
I have seen blacks(generally the younger ones 15-30) actually use racist terms toward whites and other non-blacks on bart and some even start fights.
I am on there EVERYDAY and I see great fear in the eyes of whites and others when they see blacks.
I see whites IGNORING deviant behavior that would cause fights anywhere else.
I have a picture on my ipod TAKEN MONDAY of this week of a bummy OLDER black male whose seat of his pants where saturated with his own feces go to the doors connecting one train from another and urinate in full view of everyone and then return to his seat.
What was the worst aspect of this mind bending situatiuon was the white woman siting next to him IGNORING his stench and psycopathic ranting.
Ive witness black engaged in impromptu racist rants against whites on BART while the few blacks on the train(me included) looked at this ignorant foul raised negro like he was out of his fucking mind.......all the while the top echelon whites that work in downtown San Francisco in the towers were silent and as docile as monks!
Imagine the situation reversed!?
There would have been blows thrown!
I wish so many blacks didnt behave like this.
I see it EVERYDAY and i have pictures.
WE AS BLACKS MUST CHANGE!!!
I am a 43 year old intelligent black man who has never been in the system and take care of myself and DONT engage in antisocial behavior.
Stop blaming racism for everything!
If RACISM was so prevalent what I see on BART daily would not be.


Have a good night.

[trish]

You're a straight male. Suppose you're looking for a life partner...someone to marry. A certain guy finds you interesting. He wants to date you in a serious way. You put him off, perhaps diplomatically, but you put him off. After all, you're not interested in dating some one of the same sex. Are you sexist?

Suppose you're a straight male and a gigolo. A male offers you money for sex. You refuse. He accuses you of being sexist...making a decision based solely on gender. Does the accusation apply? Is your only moral choice to take his money and suck his cock?

[sucka4chix]

Everything else a girl considers falls under the category of preferences: her preferences. If, for example, I like tumbling in the hay with wonderfully obese men and not with skinny men, that would be a sexual fetish (i.e. a preference) and not a prejudice. Indeed I may have no PREJUDGMENTS concerning lean men. I may realize some are smart and some are stupid. Some are clean and some are filthy. Some are rich and some are poor. Some are great lovers and some are so-so. It may simply be the case that I just don’t want to have sex with bony men. That’s not prejudice, that’s merely catering to one’s own desires, preferences and fetishes even when on the job. I never eat escargot, whether I’m an escort or not. That’s not prejudice against snails. I’ve tried them. I don’t hate them. I can understand why they’re rightly considered a delicacy. But you can’t pay me to eat them either. I’m not going to put them in MY body.

Everyone on these forums knows I’m the first to call out racists and haters. Hostile called me a racist about eight times just last week for defending Obama. But in this case, what you guys don’t see is that it’s not always about YOU. When it comes to our bodies, WE girls decide who’s going to touch it and under what circumstances. You don’t have a voice in that decision.
'Round and 'round I go... You guys keep comparing apples and oranges. I hope none of you are trial lawyers. Comparing race, ESPECIALLY blacks, to whether a guy is skinny or fat is as senseless as comparing it to prefering Coca Cola over Pepsi. It's not the same thing!
Try to follow this. I'll make it as simple as I can: If I call you and offer you a soda, you may ask what kind. If I say Pepsi, you can say no thanks, I don't like Pepsi. You've tasted Pepsi, you know what it's like. It will always be like that. That's your PREFERENCE.
If I call you for a date and tell you I'm black, YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MORE ABOUT ME THAN YOU DID SECONDS BEFORE, excepting that I identify with the black race. Any decision you make of whether or not I'm "allowed to touch" your body is based on your preconceived notions and perceptions that pop into your head when I say BLACK!
Coca-Cola, fat guys, thin guys, yes that's a preference based on what you KNOW! Black... That's a prejudice based on what you THINK you know.
The fact that you all can't see the difference between race and simple physical traits screams racism. All tall men are tall. All fat men are fat. All coca-cola tastes like coca-cola. All black men are_______?

[slinky]

You're a straight male. Suppose you're looking for a life partner...someone to marry. A certain guy finds you interesting. He wants to date you in a serious way. You put him off, perhaps diplomatically, but you put him off. After all, you're not interested in dating some one of the same sex. Are you sexist?

First of all, this isn't a professional situation; no one is getting paid to provide a service, it's only "personal".

Second of all, WRT solely this situation..... YES.



Suppose you're a straight male and a gigolo. A male offers you money for sex. You refuse. He accuses you of being sexist...making a decision based solely on gender. Does the accusation apply?

Again, WRT solely this situation..... YES.



Is your only moral choice to take his money and suck his cock?

Discrimination takes place all the time. So much so that people don't even know what it is and what it isn't anymore. And discrimination isn't illegal or immoral. There are certain types of discrimination which are illegal, and others which different people find to be immoral. But not all forms of discrimination are either. But since (like racism) "discrimination" has become a dirty word, no one wants to admit they do it.

[sucka4chix]

Well since no one is honest enough to say it.....I will. Many of the experienced girls feel there is more of a chance that they will be hassled, robbed or hit by dating a young black male.
My ex-girlfriend isn't white, wasn't born in the states with it's fucked up racial attitudes & she told me that this is what she learned after living in NYC & LA.
She was robbed by black guys/girls a couple of times & a lot of verbal, & sometimes physical harassment by them in the bar. Not all black guys, not most black guys, just a consistent pattern from the same demographic that she & most of her friends avoided dealing with them after a while unless they were known friends.
Sorry.



I have to comment on this.
Its quite unfortunate that the only image SOME WHITE PEOPLE HAVE OF BLACKS is the media and what they see in public.
What they generally see in public is NOT NICE.
I will explain.
Most white and NON-BLACKS generally interact with blacks on public transportation or DMV or McDonalds or some other public venue such as malls and whatnot.
These venues are usually populated by the younger generation of black folks and that is where the problem USUALLY lies.
Their behavior is atrocious.
Im on public transit 6HOURS a day 5 days a week and I am a keen observer.
Black peoples behavior and general demeanor is atrocious!
Loud,always using foul language and LIBERAL use of the "N" word.
You all have been there and know I speak the truth.
I have seen blacks(generally the younger ones 15-30) actually use racist terms toward whites and other non-blacks on bart and some even start fights.
I am on there EVERYDAY and I see great fear in the eyes of whites and others when they see blacks.
I see whites IGNORING deviant behavior that would cause fights anywhere else.
I have a picture on my ipod TAKEN MONDAY of this week of a bummy OLDER black male whose seat of his pants where saturated with his own feces go to the doors connecting one train from another and urinate in full view of everyone and then return to his seat.
What was the worst aspect of this mind bending situatiuon was the white woman siting next to him IGNORING his stench and psycopathic ranting.
Ive witness black engaged in impromptu racist rants against whites on BART while the few blacks on the train(me included) looked at this ignorant foul raised negro like he was out of his fucking mind.......all the while the top echelon whites that work in downtown San Francisco in the towers were silent and as docile as monks!
Imagine the situation reversed!?
There would have been blows thrown!
I wish so many blacks didnt behave like this.
I see it EVERYDAY and i have pictures.
WE AS BLACKS MUST CHANGE!!!
I am a 43 year old intelligent black man who has never been in the system and take care of myself and DONT engage in antisocial behavior.
Stop blaming racism for everything!
If RACISM was so prevalent what I see on BART daily would not be.


Have a good night.
Ok you're sadly out of touch and as much of a problem as the young'uns you complain about, but I'm not gonna get deep into that.
As the great philosopher CHRIS ROCK said "Love me some black people, hate me some Niggas". Do people assume every white person is redneck trailer trash? Why would some think every black person acts like a Nigga?

[sucka4chix]

You're a straight male. Suppose you're looking for a life partner...someone to marry. A certain guy finds you interesting. He wants to date you in a serious way. You put him off, perhaps diplomatically, but you put him off. After all, you're not interested in dating some one of the same sex. Are you sexist?

Suppose you're a straight male and a gigolo. A male offers you money for sex. You refuse. He accuses you of being sexist...making a decision based solely on gender. Does the accusation apply? Is your only moral choice to take his money and suck his cock?
Technically, yes you are being sexist, and in this silly-assed, lawyers gone wild society, that may be a frivolous lawsuit in the future, but once again you cannot compare gender to race. With gender you know what you're getting and with race you make assumptions.

[trish]

I know what coke tastes like and I know what color black is. Look, when I was escorting I didn't want to get to know my clients, other than how to serve their needs. There's no prejudging going on because there's nothing about you I want to know or guess about. Most sex workers are not looking to have a longterm relationship with a trick. An escort doesn't care if you're Mr. Wonderful or not and she's not going to second guess what all your qualities and faults might be. Most escorts keep their personal lives separate from their business lives. So choosing or turning down a customer is a lot like deciding between Pespi, Coke or nah I'm not thirsty tonight. Her choice should be her's alone and free from the moralistic social pressure you're attempting to bring to bear just to increase your chances of getting laid. For shame.

[drock]

From this brother's perspective regarding those who don't like us... Who cares?

From what I can tell, escorts are prostitutes. Prostitutes are going for the money and can't take a lot of chances. How many brothers do you know feel like they have to pay for some lovin? Not many. Go with the white guy!

Who is the escort going to get (on average) for more money from? Some white dude or a brother. An escort will have to pry that hundee from my cold dead hand. Please...

I don't know about t-girls, because I have only met one in my life (she doesn't like brothers either, so what). However, there are some (most?) white/latin/asian females that refuse to date black men and a multitude of others who will only date black men. There are some who will date any type of man.

If you are giving me a choice, I'm typically going to pick the black woman. Doesn't that make me racist? I don't know, I just love black women. Oh well.

The typical black man exudes sexual confidence and there are some people (of all sexes) that can't stand that. It's a turn off. A huge one.

Some people just aren't attracted to black men, and that's just the bottom line.

Some people just hate blacks. Oh well. Nothing you can do.

It is not ALL be racism (but we know that some of it is) Yea I don't get why somebody would be mad they can't see an escort?/ If they were all that, they wouldn't be paying in the first place. I can deal with a black man and not charge him.

come on now you need to stop playing Vanessa. yOu know damn well that most trannies ain't giving up no ass if a man ain't playing. those that do are very rare!!

[sucka4chix]

I know what coke tastes like and I know what color black is. Look, when I was escorting I didn't want to get to know my clients, other than how to serve their needs. There's no prejudging going on because there's nothing about you I want to know or guess about. Most sex workers are not looking to have a longterm relationship with a trick. An escort doesn't care if you're Mr. Wonderful or not and she's not going to second guess what all your qualities and faults might be. Most escorts keep their personal lives separate from their business lives. So choosing or turning down a customer is a lot like deciding between Pespi, Coke or nah I'm not thirsty tonight. Her choice should be her's alone and free from the moralistic social pressure you're attempting to bring to bear just to increase your chances of getting laid. For shame.
My iPhone fucked up my response, so I'll take it as a sign to go to bed... But I'll continue tomorrow!!!

[slinky]

I know what coke tastes like and I know what color black is. Look, when I used to own a restaurant I didn't want to get to know my clients, other than how to serve their needs. There's no prejudging going on because there's nothing about you I want to know or guess about. Most waiters are not looking to have a longterm relationship with a diner. An waiter doesn't care if you're Mr. Wonderful or not and she's not going to second guess what all your qualities and faults might be. Most waiters keep their personal lives separate from their business lives. So choosing or turning down a customer is a lot like deciding between Pespi, Coke or nah I'm not thirsty tonight. His choice should be his alone and free from the moralistic social pressure you're attempting to bring to bear just to increase your chances of getting fed. For shame.

I don't see why everyone was so up in arms about Denny's.

[trish]

The difference is right here:


His choice should be his alone and free from the moralistic social pressure you're attempting to bring to bear just to increase your chances of getting fed. For shame.

The waiter is not offering the clients the use of his own body in a private venue. Restaurants are public and not private. As such the behavior of the restaurant staff is subject to public social mores. Moreover, the waiter works for the manager and manager works for the chain. For all three of these reasons the waiter is not free to make all his own choices regarding the customers. The independent sex worker is.

[trish]

What's this argument really about? Mr. Sinister's not getting any Asian tail. He's even having a hard time buying it. So he's upset. He takes it out on those Asian girls in a public forum. Shames them. Calls them racists. Maybe next time they'll feel pressured or guilty enough to sell him some. Maybe it's just me, but I find that reprehensible.

[slinky]

Moreover, the waiter works for the manager and manager works for the chain.

Sorry, I forgot some people's only experience with "fine dining" is MacDonalds.

So I guess you're saying if a girl works for a house or agency, she loses her right to choose who she sees? because otherwise your argument is false.

[slinky]

The waiter is not offering the clients the use of his own body in a private venue.

BTW, this is a justification for racist behaviour, as I've stated all along, not a reason it's not racist.

[slinky]

Even in their personal lives, I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic girls only want to date White males and many will not even date members of their own race..


I don't know about that. An awful lot of the girls I've seen tend to date the most thuggish guys possible in their private lives.

[TrueBeauty TS]

I have a picture on my ipod TAKEN MONDAY of this week of a bummy OLDER black male whose seat of his pants where saturated with his own feces go to the doors connecting one train from another and urinate in full view of everyone and then return to his seat.
What was the worst aspect of this mind bending situatiuon was the white woman siting next to him IGNORING his stench and psycopathic ranting.


I have to bring these points up:

Did you ever think that him being a crazy, homeless person was more scary to her than him being black? You don't know who you are dealing with, with someone like that. They could be harmless, or they could be dangerous. And if you are such a gentleman, why didn't you come to her aid? Why didn't YOU do something about that guy besides take pictures of him?





Ive witness black engaged in impromptu racist rants against whites on BART while the few blacks on the train(me included) looked at this ignorant foul raised negro like he was out of his fucking mind.......all the while the top echelon whites that work in downtown San Francisco in the towers were silent and as docile as monks!



And just what, exactly, did you expect them to do that YOU didn't do? You try to throw shame on the white people on that train, but yet, you are just as guilty. You didn't speak out against the hate speech, you just looked at them, and that in turn, gives them silent approval.

Can you imagine a white person saying something to that "ignorant foul raised negro"? The white guy would be labeled a racist. It's horrible, but today, most people have been taught by the media and the politically correct to never say anything negative about a different people (race, sexual orientation, religion, etc.) or a different culture. Only the people in those groups can do that.


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[TsVanessa69]

From this brother's perspective regarding those who don't like us... Who cares?

From what I can tell, escorts are prostitutes. Prostitutes are going for the money and can't take a lot of chances. How many brothers do you know feel like they have to pay for some lovin? Not many. Go with the white guy!

Who is the escort going to get (on average) for more money from? Some white dude or a brother. An escort will have to pry that hundee from my cold dead hand. Please...

I don't know about t-girls, because I have only met one in my life (she doesn't like brothers either, so what). However, there are some (most?) white/latin/asian females that refuse to date black men and a multitude of others who will only date black men. There are some who will date any type of man.

If you are giving me a choice, I'm typically going to pick the black woman. Doesn't that make me racist? I don't know, I just love black women. Oh well.

The typical black man exudes sexual confidence and there are some people (of all sexes) that can't stand that. It's a turn off. A huge one.

Some people just aren't attracted to black men, and that's just the bottom line.

Some people just hate blacks. Oh well. Nothing you can do.

It is not ALL be racism (but we know that some of it is) Yea I don't get why somebody would be mad they can't see an escort?/ If they were all that, they wouldn't be paying in the first place. I can deal with a black man and not charge him.

come on now you need to stop playing Vanessa. yOu know damn well that most trannies ain't giving up no ass if a man ain't playing. those that do are very rare!!
Its all in the man and how he acts and approches me. Now come on I have lovers, which have nothing to do with paying clients. See some potientail lovers get slid in to the client mode by no class, stupid comments or being tranny chasers. I have a lover who is a sean John model, a man who see's and treats me as a WOMAN not a transexual. See thats the difference. Some men treat us as sex objects, or shemales, trannys, whatever those are in my mind tricks. A man who treats me and see's me as a woman is a friend or a possible lover. Thet are far and FEW but do exsist!

[TsVanessa69]

Vanessa doesn't know her ass from her elbow. She has rocks for brains. Why would anyone in their right mind want to defend Vanessa?



In defense of Vanessa:

Look. There are not that many judgments a girl needs to make in deciding whether to accept a trick or not. This would be different if she were looking for a boyfriend or a potential partner. The only JUDGMENTS to be made about a potential trick concern his cleanliness, his sanity, his ability and willingness to pay and whether he’s law enforcement. Everything else a girl considers falls under the category of preferences: her preferences. If, for example, I like tumbling in the hay with wonderfully obese men and not with skinny men, that would be a sexual fetish (i.e. a preference) and not a prejudice. Indeed I may have no PREJUDGMENTS concerning lean men. I may realize some are smart and some are stupid. Some are clean and some are filthy. Some are rich and some are poor. Some are great lovers and some are so-so. It may simply be the case that I just don’t want to have sex with bony men. That’s not prejudice, that’s merely catering to one’s own desires, preferences and fetishes even when on the job. I never eat escargot, whether I’m an escort or not. That’s not prejudice against snails. I’ve tried them. I don’t hate them. I can understand why they’re rightly considered a delicacy. But you can’t pay me to eat them either. I’m not going to put them in MY body.

Everyone on these forums knows I’m the first to call out racists and haters. Hostile called me a racist about eight times just last week for defending Obama. But in this case, what you guys don’t see is that it’s not always about YOU. When it comes to our bodies, WE girls decide who’s going to touch it and under what circumstances. You don’t have a voice in that decision.
You have never met me, or even had a convo with me online, how dare you say something like this! Motherfuck you and the bitch low enough to have given birth to scum like you! I am strong enough to say it how it is and not give a fuck! See I have supported myself, by myself sine I was 16 years old, I am now 36. I made it this far knowing more than my elbow from my asshole!

[trish]

It’s clear we all have strong feelings about the issues the clashing issues that arise when, for example an Asian escort refuses on “principle” to service African Americans. My own heritage is African-Korean American. Add to that my transgender status and you can believe me when I say that I know what prejudice and discrimination is about. As I see it, a person’s body is their own. A person’s right to decide who’s going to touch it, kiss it, be allowed inside it, etc. is paramount. It doesn’t trump all other claims, but rather all exterior claims vanish at the boundary of the body. To deny this fundamental right is to lay a moral claim on another person’s body. Clearly there no such claim can be moral. To deny this fundamental right is to invite slavery. This is why I'm against torture. This is why I’m pro-choice for women. This is why I’m for doctor assisted euthanasia.

It’s obvious this argument can go on forever and frankly it’s getting tiresome. I think I’ve made my position clear. I'll step aside for awhile and let others take it up from here.

[Mr. Sinister]

For those such as Trish, I want to inform them of what this thread is really about. This thread was never about escorting or sex (I never should have included that part when I started this thread), but rather an observation regarding race. I believe that many Asians and some Hispanics have an inferiority complex with regards to White people, which is why they hate people of color. I am shocked at how many of my Asian male friends have told me that they can't get a date with an Asian girl because most of them will only date White men. Many Asian girls believe that White people are superior to them and are desperate to be apart of the White community. In the Asian community, people like this are called twinkies. Yellow (Asian) on the outside, but white inside. A perfect example would be Michelle Malkin, a Filipinia conservative commentator, who has attacked members of her own Asian community and other minority groups. She is obviously married to a White male and many believe that she is ashamed of her race. She has even wrote for some anti-immigrant/White Supermacist websites.

With regards to Hispanics, even though Latin Americans claim to be racially mixed, one only sees individuals who have a high percentage of European blood in positions of power and wealth. Thus, it does not surprise me that some Hispanics will only date Whites because they have never seen a positive image of a black or brown skinned Hispanic.

Even in the U.S., African-Americans are rarely ever shown in a positive light, which explains why some GGs and TS may not want to date them. But with someone like Barack Obama in the White House, hopefully more people will be able to conjur up more positive images of African-Americans and along with other people of color.

[MacShreach]

Moreover, the waiter works for the manager and manager works for the chain.

Sorry, I forgot some people's only experience with "fine dining" is MacDonalds.



That was a really cheap shot, Danny. It was out of character for you, and you should apologise to Trish for it. There is not a kinder or more tolerant person on this board, so keep it sweet.

As you well know this argument has been thrashed to death many times here and it always comes to the same thing-- a polarisation between "It's wrong for a woman to refuse sex with a man on the ground of his race," and "A woman has a right to choose."

The problem is that both of these are true, but as Trish said, the woman's right not to have sex trumps all.

The men who are being prejudiced against are correct. There is no justifiable reason to assume that just because a man is black, hispanic or whatever--even Scottish-- he should be in any way more violent, thuggish, drunken or more likely to behave in an unacceptable way than anyone else.

But irrespective of what her reasons are, a woman has the absolute right to choose whom she has sex with. Men do NOT have the right to have sex with anyone they want, and it doesn't matter whether the woman they want is a whore or not. A woman's body is NOT a convenience store, and a woman does not lose her fundamental human rights just because she is a whore. She doesn't have to explain why. "No," is all she has to say.

You are far too intelligent a person not to realise this, Danny. Fight the racist argument in areas where you can win and I'm right behind you, but this particular argument is simply not winnable.

I'm not getting in to this any further, because this horse is so dead it hums. But you still owe Trish an apology.

[MacShreach]

For those such as Trish, I want to inform them of what this thread is really about. This thread was never about escorting or sex (I never should have included that part when I started this thread), <snip>

Hi, you're recently arrived so you probably did not know that this subject has been regularly visited, with the production of a great deal of heat and very little light.

But don't judge Trish wrongly because she's unafraid to speak her mind or tackle subjects that she knows full well will not make her popular. Trish is definitely one of the people here you want to know.

Said me piece now, welcome and hope you enjoy the ride.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Yeah...This subject is Really Getting Old!!!

[blckhaze]

Yeah...This subject is Really Getting Old!!!

cosign.

[TomSelis]

For the record, black guy with an asian girlfriend.

There you go! PREACH father Tom! lol ;)

This is really a "case to case basis".

Um, so how about this girl?

http://www.xpeeps.com/member.php?u=636386

She is black but don't want black men..your thoughts?

~Kisses.

HTG

She's cute, but I could find someone better. And yes, she's a racist too. But I have the ability to say "So what?" and keep it moving. Racists are stupid, doesn't matter how they try to rationalize it, racism is an irrational thing.

I've told this story before, but my family was kicked out of Uganda for being mixed (African/South Asian/White) in the early 70's. As in "Get out or DIE." So, I'm fully aware that blacks can be racist too. They didn't roll over and say "It's not fair, this is racism!" They went to the UK and then America and made a better life.

By the same token, if I see someone that I want to talk to and they decide not to chose me because I'm not the right color. I say fuck 'em, say a little prayer for them, then move on with my life and lose no sleep over it, no matter what color they are.

The thing is sometimes women will turn down this:

http://hiphoprepublican.com/uploaded_images/TalkLikeWhiteBoy-JCP-793668.jpg




for this:

http://www.flynetonline.com/uploaded_images/ben_scruffy-781353.jpg

And that is a little offensive. When I was younger I'd be deeply offended by that. But now, it's more like :shrug

[slinky]

Moreover, the waiter works for the manager and manager works for the chain.

Sorry, I forgot some people's only experience with "fine dining" is MacDonalds.



That was a really cheap shot, Danny. It was out of character for you, and you should apologise to Trish for it. There is not a kinder or more tolerant person on this board, so keep it sweet.

As you well know this argument has been thrashed to death many times here and it always comes to the same thing-- a polarisation between "It's wrong for a woman to refuse sex with a man on the ground of his race," and "A woman has a right to choose."

The problem is that both of these are true, but as Trish said, the woman's right not to have sex trumps all.

The men who are being prejudiced against are correct. There is no justifiable reason to assume that just because a man is black, hispanic or whatever--even Scottish-- he should be in any way more violent, thuggish, drunken or more likely to behave in an unacceptable way than anyone else.

But irrespective of what her reasons are, a woman has the absolute right to choose whom she has sex with. Men do NOT have the right to have sex with anyone they want, and it doesn't matter whether the woman they want is a whore or not. A woman's body is NOT a convenience store, and a woman does not lose her fundamental human rights just because she is a whore. She doesn't have to explain why. "No," is all she has to say.

You are far too intelligent a person not to realise this, Danny. Fight the racist argument in areas where you can win and I'm right behind you, but this particular argument is simply not winnable.

I'm not getting in to this any further, because this horse is so dead it hums. But you still owe Trish an apology.

I would listen more if there was any hint that you'd actually read everything I wrote and not put words in my mouth. Let me ask you this: what have I said about whether or not "the woman's right not to have sex trumps all."???????????

[slinky]

One of the problems I have with the argument being made is that when it comes to sex work, sex workers want to say "it's not sex" when it comes to the morality of doing it, but "it is sex" when it comes to their ability to refuse service. I say "pick one".

To a large extent the "I have the right to say who invades my body" is a smokescreen, because for the vast majority of sex workers the vast majority of their clients "gross them out" to some extent TO BEGIN with. So, they aren't making so "holy" decision about the invasion of their bodies when it comes to race because they have already abdicated that by doing sex work to begin with. This is different with a VERY small minority of sex workers who really do pick and choose every customer to basically be a guy who they would have sex with for free anyway, but that really is a VERY small minority, and isn't true for almost all of the sex workers trying to use the "body invasion" defense.

[MacShreach]

One of the problems I have with the argument being made is that when it comes to sex work, sex workers want to say "it's not sex" when it comes to the morality of doing it, but "it is sex" when it comes to their ability to refuse service. I say "pick one".

To a large extent the "I have the right to say who invades my body" is a smokescreen, because for the vast majority of sex workers the vast majority of their clients "gross them out" to some extent TO BEGIN with. So, they aren't making so "holy" decision about the invasion of their bodies when it comes to race because they have already abdicated that by doing sex work to begin with. This is different with a VERY small minority of sex workers who really do pick and choose every customer to basically be a guy who they would have sex with for free anyway, but that really is a VERY small minority, and isn't true for almost all of the sex workers trying to use the "body invasion" defense.

Doesn't matter a damn. The right to say no is the right to say no without having to justify it, and it is the right of all women whether or not they're on the game or not. The argument is therefore unwinnable.

Danny, you're one of the smart and decent guys here, I like you and we get on, so I'm not arguing whether or not the reasons are right with you. Discrimination is always wrong, but this is not the battleground to fight that on. That's all I'm saying.

Whether or not you agree is neither here nor there, because that's it, I said all I had to say the last time this horse was flogged to death, and quite possibly the time before that too. You and I will, I'm sure, continue to get on, but, um, I think you still owe Trish an apology. She didn't deserve that swipe.

[El_hefe]

You know, I think the brothers are right that they are the constant victims of racism in our bigoted society, and as many have alluded to here, we need to end this prejudice asap so we can unify ourselves as a nation and turn against the uppity Asians & especially those damned Mexicans.

[TsVanessa69]

You know, I think the brothers are right that they are the constant victims of racism in our bigoted society, and as many have alluded to here, we need to end this prejudice asap so we can unify ourselves as a nation and turn against the uppity Asians & especially those damned Mexicans.
Hey now, Mexican men treat me right and do thangs that "brothers" won't do with ME. I.e, hold my hand and kiss me in public, call just to say hi, take me out to eat, the love of my life is Mexican and my very first boyfriend, who i was with for 5 years was Mexican too. Thast just from MY expierences so don't go flyin off the handle

[the_corner]

You know, I think the brothers are right that they are the constant victims of racism in our bigoted society, and as many have alluded to here, we need to end this prejudice asap so we can unify ourselves as a nation and turn against the uppity Asians & especially those damned Mexicans.

Isn't "El Hefe" a dude from Mexican descent?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Abeyta

:?

[Jay Jay]

I hate to bring back a topic but I just wanted to say a few words. What people are complaining about is not racism. Racism is not getting a job or notbeing able to move some where bicause of race or percieved race.If one is talking about where they spend their money it is just a choice. Now if transexual providers were regulated by the state then there may be more of an argument. If some one is not interested in you or your money just look elsewhere. The racism subject is one that is sensitive for a lot of people but I dont think it is healthy to assume that a preference is made on racism. For the record I am black and I have asain, white ,black, hispanic TS and GG girls. I hang at a mostly hispanic venue and I wont say I am always succesful but I never feel its because of discrimination. There are a lot of issues in the TS community and so if people dont know you they might have some strange rules. Maybee thats how they are able to deal with things. I have had several asian TS say they were afraid for my size and girth. But for every four like that there will be an adventurous one. So lets think positive and say if you got the game there is no ass you can't tame.

[ARMANIXXX]

I hate to bring back a topic but I just wanted to say a few words. What people are complaining about is not racism. Racism is not getting a job or notbeing able to move some where bicause of race or percieved race.If one is talking about where they spend their money it is just a choice. Now if transexual providers were regulated by the state then there may be more of an argument. If some one is not interested in you or your money just look elsewhere. The racism subject is one that is sensitive for a lot of people but I dont think it is healthy to assume that a preference is made on racism. For the record I am black and I have asain, white ,black, hispanic TS and GG girls. I hang at a mostly hispanic venue and I wont say I am always succesful but I never feel its because of discrimination. There are a lot of issues in the TS community and so if people dont know you they might have some strange rules. Maybee thats how they are able to deal with things. I have had several asian TS say they were afraid for my size and girth. But for every four like that there will be an adventurous one. So lets think positive and say if you got the game there is no ass you can't tame.

__________________________________________________ __________________


I think you are missing the point though.

The point is, rather, the sentiment is, at least from my standpoint, is don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The real "choice" is, most of these "I don't want to deal with black men" choices are because said girl is afraid of black men and thus, you are committing RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.

The reason It bends me a bit, has more to do with how, in 2010, people still treat black men in general. THE SENTIMENT, not the actual hooker here, cause I haven't felt the need experiment with and out of town EROS hooker, or any hooker for that matter in almost 2 years (Bay Area and all ;) ), the sentiment is what ticks me off on these type posts.

At any rate, I'm done cause I don't have all night to type if I'm fixin to hit the club tonight.

[JelenaCD]

broken record here , everyone is racist , it's a human survival tactic , you have to accept this and i know nobody wants to accept it , it's in the degrees and actions that makes the difference !

[doradora]

:roll:
hmmm..




:popcorn

[dafame]

I love when I see ads that say "no Black men" or words to that affect. My money, which is green BTW, will stay in my pocket.

It's their loss, not mine.
Its called choice! She has the right to choose who she lets into her home and provides a service with HER body too. Maybe because of things black men have done to them in life, they just choose not to do busness with them, like I know girls who have been robbed by black men, or girls who were harrassed alot in school or public by black men so now they have to power to choose, they make that decision. And once again some of those girls are BLACK. So if a black ts escort refuses to see a black client, is she racist too??

Yes

[mrwaxler]

Had a hot Asian Rigel give me some for free once, anther for next to nothing.Asian girls that don't date black, or prefer white hate them selves. For that matter black and Latina Chics are hotter than Asian girls anyway. Asian girls often have flat butts and ugly faces. Not all but most.

[FreddieGomez]

i think asian ts are most racist.

most wont date anybody who ain't white.

i'll stick to latin chicks.

[Dino Velvet]

This Filipina gal I see has the sweetest smile but is also a massive racist. I'm the one who scolds her about it.

[qwerty94]

Had a hot Asian Rigel give me some for free once, anther for next to nothing.Asian girls that don't date black, or prefer white hate them selves. For that matter black and Latina Chics are hotter than Asian girls anyway. Asian girls often have flat butts and ugly faces. Not all but most.

wow... you are a complete asshole.

[asianphoenixx]

I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic transsexuals tend to be the most discriminating when it comes to race. Many of the Asian and Hispanic girls on Eros will only provide their services to White males. Even in their personal lives, I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic girls only want to date White males and many will not even date members of their own race. Why do many of these girls prefer white males? I have also noticed that Asian and Hispanic t-girls hate black men. There are many good looking black men out there and it makes no sense in discriminating against them because of their skin color. Why are so many Asian and Hispanic transsexuals so racist? White males aren't the only good looking men out there and in terms of money and power, men of color, whether they are Black, Latino, Arab/Indian, or Asian, are moving up in American society.

not me, though i have to agree that white men are cute and exotic for us, Asian girls. Just look at those different color of hair and eyes.

there are cute men in every race. 2 days ago, i just saw a hunk Asian who was (unfortunately) not that interested in me. Too bad lol:yingyang:

[mrtron]

i have noticed that asian tg and gg women prefer white guys more often than not. i don't think its racist per se. imo, i think it has to do in part with some insecurity about their own ethnicity. some times, i think minorities view race as a hierarchy where white is on top and if you bag white dude it equals success and more prestige. btw, I'm s asian.

[asianphoenixx]

i have noticed that asian tg and gg women prefer white guys more often than not. i don't think its racist per se. imo, i think it has to do in part with some insecurity about their own ethnicity. some times, i think minorities view race as a hierarchy where white is on top and if you bag white dude it equals success and more prestige. btw, I'm s asian.

It does not apply to me.

I'm proud being Asian. There is no way i want to be a white chick.
And btw, i like white guys as much as black guys. But my fav. is: North African and Turkish guys. Simply delicious :banana:

I like their big, sturdy bones, their olive skin color, their mannerism, their hair..oh..of course, their dick lol

Now, i'm getting a hard on. I'd better call my client to come earlier lol

[asianphoenixx]

oh...Brazilian boys too!

[Willie Escalade]

I'm over it; it's their choice.

Noce old thread to bump *bullshit*

[BBaggins06]

I'm over it; it's their choice.

Noce old thread to bump *bullshit*

That Trayvon Martin thread is way overdue for a revival ....

[tsparrow69]

You've seemed to use the simplest expression of "racism" to explain your sociological unscientific analysis of a randomized group set to come to the conclusion you feel comfortable with. This label is tossed around WAAAAYYY to much in our culture without any appropriateness. We need to understand economics of Escorting (since you mentioned Eros)....Escorting isn't unlike any other business, the providers seek clients that meet their discriminating needs for a whole host of reasons besides just skin color. I wouldn't open up an air-conditioner store in Alaska for fear that i'm be told i'm discriminating against Aleutions ? I wouldnt open it up because it likely isn't a good fit for me or my clients. I have the right to offer services where, to whom, and how many I like in that example. As an individual (like a small biz owner) an escort has a right to refuse service to anyone, as unfair as it sounds its not racist. Many TS escorts prefer certain clients because of certain physical, financial, or social traits that maximize the providers benefits risk/reward ratio, or just plain enjoyment level. There are plenty of reasons aside of oppressing minorities that one would capitalize on in the escort biz. Statistically quantifying "racist" TS women is nearly impossible based on any one persons personal grievance, or by informal observance resulting in some systemic rationalization as you hypothesized. I'm just not buying it as you've put it...I don't see an organized, even individualized cohesive slight against any ethnic group, and conversely, i'd be surprised to not see that ostracised group being immediately capitalized on by another entreprenuer who notices they aren't being serviced.
I agree with Ottorocket. I have learned through the years that TS Women are like other women with the major physical difference - their genitals. First and foremost the physical attraction has to be in any potential relationship. I am older and I am not in physically fit as I was in my 20's and 30's; therefore, I cannot demand or hope to date any beautiful TransWoman until I become the hardbody. I am back in the gym and hope to transform from a couch potato to a french frie - who doesn't love french fries. I have been fortunate to have befriended transwomen and semi-dated the ladies too. Anyway, I hope I get to meet a beautiful trans woman again and develop a LTR because they're amazing ladies and I wish each of them the very best in their lives.

[prettyboy5]

Well, as a black man I really appreciate their honesty.
Do you really wanna pay over 100 dollar to get service from someone who
did not like you (as a result give you a crappy one), but fake it anyway.

I never pay for sex, but I think a smart customer would just keep moving.

Oh, to the original poster,
please stop crying every time someone say they don't like black people.
This is part of life. Deal with it!!!!!!
You are making all of us black men look like weak fools.

[Willie Escalade]

Oh, to the original poster,
please stop crying every time someone say they don't like black people.
This is part of life. Deal with it!!!!!!
You are making all of us black men look like weak fools.
This HAS to be one of the best statements ever...:cheers:

[Mr. Sinister]

Well, as a black man I really appreciate their honesty.
Do you really wanna pay over 100 dollar to get service from someone who
did not like you (as a result give you a crappy one), but fake it anyway.

I never pay for sex, but I think a smart customer would just keep moving.

Oh, to the original poster,
please stop crying every time someone say they don't like black people.
This is part of life. Deal with it!!!!!!
You are making all of us black men look like weak fools.

I am not even black, just someone who battles racism. When people do not speak out about racism, it will continue to exist. Please don't tell me racism no longer exists. Why don't you go ask those Sikhs who were murdered by a white supremacist in Wisconsin because they did not have white skin? Why not ask Trayvon Martin's parents if racism still exists? Why not ask President Obama who is callled a Kenyan Muslim Terrorist? Why not ask Muslim Americans about being racial harassed and attacked because of their race and religion? Only a fool would believe that racism is not a serious problem in America. I, along with many other Americans, believe it has gotten even worse because white America is having a difficult time dealing with the fact that America has a black president and that non-white Americans are growing in population and will soon be the majority in the United States.

[Mr. Sinister]

I created this thread almost four years ago. I have to admitt that since President Obama has been in the White House, things have gotten a lot better for men of color in terms of dating tgirls who are Hispanic and Asian. White males are no longer viewed as having all the power in this country and thus, men of color (Hispanic, Black, Asian, Arab, and Biracial men) are having an easier time with Hispanic and Asian tgirls.

[lumberjack]

I created this thread almost four years ago. I have to admitt that since President Obama has been in the White House, things have gotten a lot better for men of color in terms of dating tgirls who are Hispanic and Asian. White males are no longer viewed as having all the power in this country and thus, men of color (Hispanic, Black, Asian, Arab, and Biracial men) are having an easier time with Hispanic and Asian tgirls.

Well I guess Obama now has one thing on his record to run on.

[ilacilac]

I can't tell if his post is serious or sarcastic...

[mrwaxler]

lol,

the last 4 tgirls i have banged have been asian,and did not pay a dime!

btw i am a black man, grow some nuts fellas, asian girls are oh so easy....the know how to fuck too....

[TatianaSummer]

three simple reasons, 1 cash, 2 safety and 3 cleaner.
I am not saying black guys are cheap, unsafe, and dirty but that's what my girl friends tell me.

I never seen any black sugar daddies either, they act more like pimps.
so white guys give money, black guys try to take it away (guess who the girls are going to choose)?. Like I said nothing personal against black guys and not being racist, just trying to answer your question.

Peace

[RadiusDark]

Well I'm glad I saw this.


three simple reasons, 1 cash, 2 safety and 3 cleaner.
I am not saying black guys are cheap, unsafe, and dirty but that's what my girl friends tell me.

I never seen any black sugar daddies either, they act more like pimps.
so white guys give money, black guys try to take it away (guess who the girls are going to choose)?. Like I said nothing personal against black guys and not being racist, just trying to answer your question.

Peace

[mrwaxler]

funny cause i find latino girls have the worst hygiene, followed by whites.

[mrwaxler]

This Filipina gal I see has the sweetest smile but is also a massive racist. I'm the one who scolds her about it.


Filipino racist,such an oxymoron. lol lol lol lmfao

[mrwaxler]

do not believe the hype, if I listed what well known girls have given me some for free,or next to nothing you'd call me a liar. being african american has it's advantages.....

take it as a compliment that white guys are known as tricks lol.....some guys can only attract a chic by castrating them selves.

[lordworm]

What a necropost.

[bimale69]

My partner is Filipino and she's very much against any kind of bigotry...the only annoyance I've heard her say is about married men who go trolling for cock but claim they are completely straight.

[scuderia]

I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic transsexuals tend to be the most discriminating when it comes to race. Many of the Asian and Hispanic girls on Eros will only provide their services to White males. Even in their personal lives, I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic girls only want to date White males and many will not even date members of their own race. Why do many of these girls prefer white males? I have also noticed that Asian and Hispanic t-girls hate black men. There are many good looking black men out there and it makes no sense in discriminating against them because of their skin color. Why are so many Asian and Hispanic transsexuals so racist? White males aren't the only good looking men out there and in terms of money and power, men of color, whether they are Black, Latino, Arab/Indian, or Asian, are moving up in American society.

i can see your point in terms of escorting, but in private life? how the fuck does that make them racist? its simple preference.

[transfan8591]

I think it is 50/50, there are Asian and Latina TS'
that like working with Black men, but there are some
that are hella racist.

This is a hella old thread....lol
I see the tried and true cop-out excuse of
"preference" many prejudice and racist peple
use that as a shield to excuse being racist/prejudice.
Some may like it, but it is...what it is.



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"Look in my eyes, what do you see?.....The Cult of Personality."
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[scuderia]

I think it is 50/50, there are Asian and Latina TS'
that like working with Black men, but there are some
that are hella racist.

This is a hella old thread....lol
I see the tried and true cop-out excuse of
"preference" many prejudice and racist peple
use that as a shield to excuse being racist/prejudice.
Some may like it, but it is...what it is.



________________
"Look in my eyes, what do you see?.....The Cult of Personality."
http://i.imgur.com/D4uGRYz.gif

and then there are people who try to label "preference" as racism because they feel offended

[transfan8591]

and then there are people who try to label "preference" as racism because they feel offended

Maybe so, maybe not...But it doesn't make it any less of a cop-out.
I'll leave it at that.


_____________________
"Look in my eyes, what do you see?....The Cult of Personality."
http://i.imgur.com/D4uGRYz.gif

[Mr. Yates]

It's important that we make a distinction between racism and racial profiling. While I'm sure virtually all of us here will agree racism is wrong, racial profiling is a bit more of a gray area. Case in point: For an example of racial profiling, look no further than the title of this thread.

So there are probably girls that won't see X race for nothing more than personal preference reasons, there are those that won't see X race due to sheer racism, but I'd imagine most of them fall more into the racial profiling category than anything else.

The main difference is that there is a logic behind racial profiling, at least in the mind of the girl in question. Maybe it is personal experience, maybe it's something she heard from her friends, maybe she saw a Google spreadsheet that graphed how generous clients are by race, who the hell knows. Is it morally wrong? Not inherently, but you'll probably have your own opinion on that matter, and it's not likely that anyone else will be able to change your mind.

Still though, it's not quite the same thing as racism.

[jamesedwards]

I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic transsexuals tend to be the most discriminating when it comes to race. Many of the Asian and Hispanic girls on Eros will only provide their services to White males. Even in their personal lives, I have noticed that Asian and Hispanic girls only want to date White males and many will not even date members of their own race. Why do many of these girls prefer white males? I have also noticed that Asian and Hispanic t-girls hate black men. There are many good looking black men out there and it makes no sense in discriminating against them because of their skin color. Why are so many Asian and Hispanic transsexuals so racist? White males aren't the only good looking men out there and in terms of money and power, men of color, whether they are Black, Latino, Arab/Indian, or Asian, are moving up in American society.

First off there is no such thing as a white person, they are Caucasian, there is no such thing as a black person they are of African descent. People are not colors, we go from Dark to light, this is basic biology. You will never see an orange person or green, or blue or purple.

If they hate dark people, which is around the world, then they are ignorant. African descent people have Melanin for a great reason and they should want some instead of hating, but it goes back to social ignorance. Many Asian families will teach their children to deal with Caucasians because they believe they have the power and you can live a good life. Movies portray African descent people as killers, drug dealers etc. It depends on what type of Hispanic you're talking about because I know a couple that love African descent men and frankly they look African descent which they are they just speak spanish.

On that note they have the right to choose who they want to be with, and that's their right, remember that. You don't have to sleep with them.

[qwerty81]

http://www.ugandapicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Blue-People-3.jpg

what about the blue people of kentucky?

[Mr. Yates]

First off there is no such thing as a white person, they are Caucasian, there is no such thing as a black person they are of African descent. People are not colors, we go from Dark to light, this is basic biology. You will never see an orange person or green, or blue or purple.

If they hate dark people, which is around the world, then they are ignorant.

Caucasian does not mean white person, nor does African mean black person, but even if we ignore that, in what way does this contribute to the conversation? Both "black" and "white" are commonly used terms, to describe people, both formally and informally.

Secondly, being a racist is not inherently ignorant. Irrational perhaps, but certainly not ignorant. I'm not sure you know what the word means.

[rodinuk]

...You will never see an orange person...

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3164/3058722566_a16bea5c71.jpg

[Ben in LA]

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3164/3058722566_a16bea5c71.jpg

Is that Syracuse, NY? Lots of orange there...

[rodinuk]

Probably South London prior to filming the banned ad

[jamesedwards]

Caucasian does not mean white person, nor does African mean black person, but even if we ignore that, in what way does this contribute to the conversation? Both "black" and "white" are commonly used terms, to describe people, both formally and informally.

Secondly, being a racist is not inherently ignorant. Irrational perhaps, but certainly not ignorant. I'm not sure you know what the word means.

Ok Yates, well, I have two degrees, one in African studies and one in Eastern Studies and through my course I found it not by African's themselves through linguistics or epigraphic evidence nor on reliefs that the African themselves called themselves Black! I'm not going to sit here and let you as a Caucasian person tell me the term Black is commonly used terms, for who? I don't let anyone call me black, but African descent is the proper term that's why I said it. I have a brown complexion I am not the color black. The word black put on African descent people in America is a classification of status to identify us and accepted by the NAACP to classify us. Many African descent people have stood against such non-sense. Have you recently filled out a job app and now they have where you don't have to put down what race you are voluntarily.

I look at your pic in your avatar and you are of Caucasian descent. If a forensic Dr. found your dead body decomposed automatically they would be able to tell from your cranium that you are Caucasian and they really don't use the word "White" in such cases!

NOw do you even know what the word Black means? What the word white means? The definition alone I would never want anyone to assume I am so called black. If you were to call me a so called black man I would ask you "who the hell are you talking about?" I straighten out a lot of Caucasians with the same mind set as you because you are ignorant to the fact about the definition and the political status of these ignorant words placed on people.

Commonly used now is Caucasian in its right term and African descent/American is the right term. Now if you think you're white then go get a brand new white dress shirt put it up to your face and see if you're both the same color! And I guarantee you don't even come close to being white.

So please don't try and play dialectic acrobatics with me or Semantics because you will lose every time!

[jamesedwards]

http://www.ugandapicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Blue-People-3.jpg

what about the blue people of kentucky?

Ummmmmmm Qwerty what complexion is that man's hands? :dead:
I mean I hope you are being funny and not trying to imply that it's common that people are born blue. lol

By cranium oversite and DNA, along with his 6 ether hair he would definitely lead back to Caucasian roots!

[nysprod]

I think the premise of the thread is racist.

[maddygirl]

I don't think it's always racist.That term is thrown around like it's nobody's business these days, when in actuality not everything has to do with racism, it could just be preference. I'm white, but am rarely attracted to white men. It's not that I hate my race, I'm just not physically attracted to the large majority of them. I can't help my preferences and don't feel like anyone should have to explain or defend their attraction should they be called racist.

[Jericho]

http://www.ugandapicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Blue-People-3.jpg

what about the blue people of kentucky?


Ahhh, an early incursion by the Andorians!

[tskitana]

its just think its called PREFERENCE .

[Mr. Yates]

Ok Yates, well, I have two degrees, one in African studies and one in Eastern Studies and through my course I found it not by African's themselves through linguistics or epigraphic evidence nor on reliefs that the African themselves called themselves Black! I'm not going to sit here and let you as a Caucasian person tell me the term Black is commonly used terms, for who? I don't let anyone call me black, but African descent is the proper term that's why I said it. I have a brown complexion I am not the color black. The word black put on African descent people in America is a classification of status to identify us and accepted by the NAACP to classify us. Many African descent people have stood against such non-sense. Have you recently filled out a job app and now they have where you don't have to put down what race you are voluntarily.

I look at your pic in your avatar and you are of Caucasian descent. If a forensic Dr. found your dead body decomposed automatically they would be able to tell from your cranium that you are Caucasian and they really don't use the word "White" in such cases!

NOw do you even know what the word Black means? What the word white means? The definition alone I would never want anyone to assume I am so called black. If you were to call me a so called black man I would ask you "who the hell are you talking about?" I straighten out a lot of Caucasians with the same mind set as you because you are ignorant to the fact about the definition and the political status of these ignorant words placed on people.

Commonly used now is Caucasian in its right term and African descent/American is the right term. Now if you think you're white then go get a brand new white dress shirt put it up to your face and see if you're both the same color! And I guarantee you don't even come close to being white.

So please don't try and play dialectic acrobatics with me or Semantics because you will lose every time!


You have degrees. That's great, congrats. You'd think with those two doctorates you would at some point learn the difference between ethnicity and race, but I digress. These words have definitions, their meaning is not up for debate. You can flaunt whatever academic accolades you wish, the definitions remain the same.

The original topic refers to girls discriminating based on RACE. I have never known any sex worker to discriminate based on ethnicity. If a girl says no black men, she means no black men, not no africans.

"Oh hey, I don't see africans, but you say you're a black guy that was born in California? Well come on over!"

Maybe there are girls that are like that. I find it unlikely, but I suppose it is possible. However the OP is referring to escorts that discriminate based on skin color, not ethnicity, so your point is moot.

To address your argument that white people are not actually the color white, nor black people the color black, I really shouldn't even be entertaining this. What's your point? White and black are the commonly used terms. The fact that you personally choose not to recognize them as part of some social statement could not possibly be any less relevant to this conversation.