PDA

View Full Version : We knew it all the time



Cuchulain
06-06-2008, 06:07 AM
A finally completed Senate report says Bush/Cheney used false intel:

"More than five years after the initial invasion of Iraq, the Senate Intelligence Committee has finally gone on the record: the Bush administration misused, and in some cases disregarded, intelligence which led the nation into war. The two final sections of a long-delayed and much anticipated "Phase II" report on the Bush administration's use of prewar intelligence, released on Thursday morning, accuse senior White House officials of repeatedly misrepresenting the threat posed by Iraq."

"Before taking the country to war, this Administration owed it to the American people to give them a 100 percent accurate picture of the threat we faced. Unfortunately, our Committee has concluded that the Administration made significant claims that were not supported by the intelligence," Rockefeller said in a statement provided to The Huffington Post.

"In making the case for war, the Administration repeatedly presented intelligence as fact when in reality it was unsubstantiated, contradicted, or even non-existent. As a result, the American people were led to believe that the threat from Iraq was much greater than actually existed. ... There is no question we all relied on flawed intelligence. But, there is a fundamental difference between relying on incorrect intelligence and deliberately painting a picture to the American people that you know is not fully accurate."

-- Statements and implications by the President and Secretary of State suggesting that Iraq and al-Qa'ida had a partnership, or that Iraq had provided al-Qa'ida with weapons training, were not substantiated by the intelligence.
-- Statements by the President and the Vice President indicating that Saddam Hussein was prepared to give weapons of mass destruction to terrorist groups for attacks against the United States were contradicted by available intelligence information.

-- Statements by President Bush and Vice President Cheney regarding the postwar situation in Iraq, in terms of the political, security, and economic, did not reflect the concerns and uncertainties expressed in the intelligence products.

-- Statements by the President and Vice President prior to the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate regarding Iraq's chemical weapons production capability and activities did not reflect the intelligence community's uncertainties as to whether such production was ongoing.

-- The Secretary of Defense's statement that the Iraqi government operated underground WMD facilities that were not vulnerable to conventional airstrikes because they were underground and deeply buried was not substantiated by available intelligence information.

-- The Intelligence Community did not confirm that Muhammad Atta met an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague in 2001 as the Vice President repeatedly claimed.


"It has been four years since the Committee began the second phase of its review," Sen. Dianne Feinstein wrote in her note attached to the report. "The results are now in. Even though the intelligence before the war supported inaccurate statements, this Administration distorted the intelligence in order to build its case to go to war. The Executive Branch released only those findings that supported the argument, did not relay uncertainties, and at times made statements beyond what the intelligence supported."

-article by Seth Colter Walls
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/05/divided-senate-committee_n_105374.html

El Nino
06-07-2008, 10:20 AM
edit

Tomfurbs
06-07-2008, 12:11 PM
So, when are Bush and co going to face trial then?

chefmike
06-07-2008, 02:37 PM
Well if the above stated were a big bag of lies, maybe, just maybe there were lies surrounding this incident as well...

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

:spam

chefmike
06-07-2008, 02:43 PM
All those lives wasted in Iraq, when the only real mission was in Afghanistan hunting Bin Laden and exterminating the Taliban...and yes I said exterminate, and yes I know that the US helped create the situation in Afghanistan to begin with.

Oli
06-07-2008, 03:20 PM
Well if the above stated were a big bag of lies, maybe, just maybe there were lies surrounding this incident as well...

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

“In fact, one thing that I have noticed . . . is that all of these conspiracy theories depend on the perpetrators being endlessly clever. I think you'll find the facts also work if you assume the believer is endlessly stupid.”

Cuchulain
06-07-2008, 04:29 PM
Well if the above stated were a big bag of lies, maybe, just maybe there were lies surrounding this incident as well...

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646

El Nino, I agree that there are still plenty of unanswered questions regarding 911. I'd love to see a complete and unbiased investigation. The American people certainly deserve answers. I'm not an expert on the matter, but I just don't see enough hard evidence yet to point fingers. Right now, we do know that the neoCONS were quick to use 911 as an excuse to grab for more presidential power, as they had discissed years before in 'The Project for a New American Century".


So, when are Bush and co going to face trial then?

When Reid and Pelosi grow some balls....In their defense, the current make up of the Senate guarantees Bush/Cheney would survive impeachment. There are a lot of 'uninformed' people in America. Fox and REICHwing talk radio would go into spin-overdrive and might actually manage to turn the whole thing against the Dems in '08. If enough people were really paying attention, the whole Bush administration would have been in jail long ago. Who was it that said "Democracy means you get the government you deserve"?

chefmike
06-07-2008, 06:44 PM
Who was it that said "Democracy means you get the government you deserve"?

That would be the Supreme Court that allowed Bush to steal his first term.

El Nino
06-07-2008, 08:53 PM
House Keeping

El Nino
06-07-2008, 09:00 PM
House Keeping

El Nino
06-07-2008, 09:11 PM
House Keeping

chefmike
06-08-2008, 02:29 AM
“In fact, one thing that I have noticed . . . is that all of these conspiracy theories depend on the perpetrators being endlessly clever. I think you'll find the facts also work if you assume the believer is endlessly stupid.”

Thanks for the quote, Oli.

thx1138
06-15-2008, 07:37 AM
Bush and Cheney are hardly clever. Their plan was apparent to me back in 2002. However they have the power of the office and the backing of powerful Washington lobbies that make them APPEAR to be clever. Atta and his crew weren't clever. They had help. Their flight school was owned by Wally Hilliard an ex CIA man. However it's been said "once CIA always CIA."

thx1138
06-15-2008, 07:39 AM
Speaking of CIA Scott Horton Interviews Philip Giraldi
http://dissentradio.com/radio/08_06_12_giraldi.mp3