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bat1
06-01-2008, 01:32 AM
much more here http://www.wnho.net/splenda_chlorocarbon.htm


In test animals Splenda produced swollen livers, as do all chlorocarbon poisons, and also calcified the kidneys of test animals in toxicity studies. The brain and nervous system are highly subject to metabolic toxicities and solvency damages by these chemicals. Their high solvency attacks the human nervous system and many other body systems including genetics and the immune function. Thus, chlorocarbon poisoning can cause cancer, birth defects, and immune system destruction. These are well known effects of Dioxin and PCBs which are known deadly chlorocarbons."

Dr. Bowen continues: "Just like aspartame, which achieved marketplace approval by the Food and Drug Administration when animal studies clearly demonstrated its toxicity, sucralose also failed in clinical trials with animals. Aspartame created brain tumors in rats. Sucralose has been found to shrink thymus glands (the biological seat of immunity) and produce liver inflammation in rats and mice.

"In the coming months we can expect to see a river of media hype expounding the virtues of Splenda/sucralose. We should not be fooled again into accepting the safety of a toxic chemical on the blessing of the FDA and saturation advertising. In terms of potential long-term human toxicity we should regard sucralose with its chemical cousin DDT, the insecticide now outlawed because of its horrendous long term toxicities at even minute trace levels in human, avian, and mammalian tissues.

"Synthetic chemical sweeteners are generally unsafe for human consumption. This toxin was given the chemical name "sucralose" which is a play on the technical name of natural sugar, sucrose. One is not the other. One is food, the other is toxic; don't be deceived."

Dr. Bowen also calls attention to another seldom recognized and deadly permanent effect of these chemicals: "Aspartame, sold as NutraSweet, Equal, E951, Canderel, Benevia and under other names, is a hypersensitization agent which causes Polychemical Sensitivity syndrome. Chlorocarbons strongly induce uncurable hypersensitivity diseases which are now becoming rampant." (James Bowen, M.D.)

Doctor Bowen has spent 20 years researching artificial sweeteners after his use of aspartame resulted in being diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease. Dr Bowen's intention is to warn the world of the toxicity of tabletop poisons like aspartame, Splenda and Neotame.

For more information on aspartame and Splenda click on the Aspartame Information List on http://www.wnho.net. Dr. Bowen can be seen in the movie "Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World." For the movie call 1-818-349-8822 or email cori@soundandfuryproductions.com See how aspartame was approved by clicking on http://www.soundandfury.tv/pages/Rumsfeld2.html and visit http://www.wnho.net/sweet_misery_movie.htm for more information on the movie

Aspartame Toxicity Center: http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame

Gmanfromthechi
06-01-2008, 06:27 AM
Wow interesting read. I had heard something of the sort awhile back, but not to that point. I was all bout the splenda/pepsi one a few months back, but luckiky only for a few months. Im glad i stopped it, and just drink water mostly and the occasional coke or pepsi, non diet.


THe bubblin in my guts always told me artificial sweeteners weren't good for me. Now I kno why.

ted naves
06-01-2008, 09:18 AM
I don't know why I simply wasn't just using sugar............ ( Lazy )

Belgie
06-01-2008, 11:32 AM
I'd need to see something approaching actual evidence from a reputable doctor, before I just blindly believe some medical advice I've read on a Transexual forum. Know what I mean?

Take a look at that site you've linked to. Right on the front page they've got links to "The Great Global Warming Hoax" amongst others.

Sets my alarm bells off, and pushes the Bull-Shit-O-Meter up to 11.

Trogdor
06-01-2008, 03:40 PM
we outta just use normal sugar or honey.

High fructose corn syrup is another sweetener we outta get rid of.

Trogdor
06-01-2008, 03:43 PM
I'd need to see something approaching actual evidence from a reputable doctor, before I just blindly believe some medical advice I've read on a Transexual forum. Know what I mean?

Take a look at that site you've linked to. Right on the front page they've got links to "The Great Global Warming Hoax" amongst others.

Sets my alarm bells off, and pushes the Bull-Shit-O-Meter up to 11.


'Reputable Doctor' don't know jack shit about nutrition, they only had about 6-8 HOURS total in the years of schooling they had. And remember, Doctors are pretty much salesman in lab coats to sell costly, and often ineffective, drugs and/or surgeries.

You put authority figures a little too high on pedistals, pal. That's the problem people, especially Americans, these days have....they'd rather listen to what an authority figure will say, rather than what their own sences tell them, and the evidence present. Kinda like someone having to take a pen and connect dots a and b for you.

bassman2546
06-01-2008, 04:01 PM
I wonder how much these people were paid off by sugar companies to voice these 'accurate discoveries'. I still don't buy into it. First of all, what was the criteria of testing. Was the dosage comparible to safe usage in humans or was it amplified just to make a point.

What's next? The water companies paying off some scientist to tell us not to refill a bottle after one use due to released toxins from the plastic so we will buy another one?

I'll listen when a reputable scientific organization discovers something.

Belgie
06-01-2008, 05:47 PM
You put authority figures a little too high on pedistals, pal.

Oh please "pal" you sound like some anti-intellectual anti-science fruit-bat.

Take your anti-global-warming all-scientists-are-evil stance, and peddle your homeopathic-style medical advice to someone more gullible.

Falrune
06-01-2008, 07:01 PM
Wikipedia (not a refereed source, but with citations) gives a review of this topic:

Sucralose has been accepted by several national and international food safety regulatory bodies, including the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), Joint Food and Agriculture Organization/World Health Organization Expert Committee on Food Additives, The European Union's Scientific Committee on Food, Health Protection Branch of Health and Welfare Canada and Food Standards Australia-New Zealand (FSANZ). Sucralose is the only artificial sweetener ranked as "safe" by the consumer advocacy group Center for Science in the Public Interest.[13][14] According to the Canadian Diabetes Association, one can consume 15 mg/kg/day of Sucralose "on a daily basis over a ... lifetime without any adverse effects".[15] For a 150 lb person, 15 mg/kg is about 1 g, equivalent to about 75 packets of Splenda or the sweetness of 612 gm or 2500 kcal of sugar.

“In determining the safety of sucralose, the FDA reviewed data from more than 110 studies in humans and animals. Many of the studies were designed to identify possible toxic effects including carcinogenic, reproductive and neurological effects. No such effects were found, and FDA's approval is based on the finding that sucralose is safe for human consumption.”[16] For example, McNeil Nutritional LLC studies submitted as part of its U.S. FDA Food Additive Petition 7A3987, indicated that "in the 2-year rodent bioassays...there was no evidence of carcinogenic activity for either sucralose or its hydrolysis products...."[17]

After FDA approval, a study published in the Journal of Head and Face Pain reported sucralose as a possible trigger for migraine patients.[18] Another study published in the Journal of Mutation Research linked high doses (2 g per kg; equal to 10,000 packets per day for the 150 lb person in the above example) of sucralose to DNA damage in mice.[19]
Concerns have been raised about the effect of sucralose on the thymus, an organ that is important to the immune system. A report from NICNAS cites two studies on rats, both of which found "a significant decrease in mean thymus weight" at a certain dose.[20] The sucralose dosages which caused the thymus gland effects referenced in the NICNAS report was 3000 mg/kg bw/day for 28 days. For an 80 kg (176 lb) human, this would mean a 28-day intake of 240 grams of sucralose, which is equivalent to more than 20,000 individual Splenda packets/day for approximately one month. The dose required to provoke any immunological response was 750 mg/kg bw/day,[21] or 60 grams of sucralose per day, which is more than 5,000 Splenda packets/day (there are 11.9 mg of sucralose in a 1g retail packet of Splenda). These and other studies were considered by regulators before concluding that sucralose was safe. However, because some ingested sucralose is broken down and absorbed by the body there is concern that chronic consumption may lead to thymus shrinkage or other side-effects.

There have been anecdotal reports of "allergic" reactions and other adverse reactions to Splenda. [22][23]

The bulk of sucralose ingested does not leave the gastrointestinal tract and is directly excreted in the feces while 11-27% of it is absorbed.[2] The amount that is absorbed from the GI tract is largely removed from the blood stream by the kidneys and excreted in the urine with 20-30% of the absorbed sucralose being metabolized.[2] According to one study, sucralose is digestible by a number of microorganisms and is broken down once released into the environment.[24] However, measurements by the Swedish Environmental Research Institute have shown that wastewater treatment has little effect on sucralose, which is present in wastewater effluents at levels of several μg/l. [25]There are no known eco-toxicological effects at such levels, but the Swedish Environmental Protection Agency warns that there may be a continuous increase in levels if the compound is only slowly degraded in nature.[26]
Splenda usually contains 95% dextrose (the "right-handed" isomer of glucose - see dextrorotation and chirality), which the body readily metabolizes. The safety information that many specialists and the media give to consumers is that Splenda is safe to ingest as a diabetic sugar substitute.[27]

Natural alternatives
Critics of sucralose often favor natural alternatives, including xylitol, maltitol, thaumatin, isomalt and stevia. However, those substances are - like most artifical sweeteners - partially accused of having other health concerns,[28][29][30] and natural products generally do not undergo controlled trials before being allowed in food.[31]

Organochlorides
The basis for concern about the safety of sucralose derives from the class of chemical to which it belongs. The sucralose molecule is an organochloride (or chlorocarbon). Since some organochlorides are known to cause adverse health effects in extremely small concentrations, critics of sucralose feel the extra-high burden of proof is warranted. Although some chlorocarbons are toxic, sucralose is not known to be toxic in small quantities and is extremely insoluble in fat; it can not accumulate in fat like chlorinated hydrocarbons. In addition, sucralose does not break down or dechlorinate.[32]

In contrast to these concerns, many organochlorides occur naturally in food sources such as seaweed.[33

Alyssa87
06-01-2008, 07:13 PM
my grandmother hoards splends packets that she gets from random places (shopping bags full) because she doesnt want to go without it after its pulled off the market for being unsafe. :screwy

bat1
06-01-2008, 08:00 PM
Anything man made is bad for you

Just water with a lemon for me for now on

El Nino
06-01-2008, 08:22 PM
Trogdor hits the nail on the head regarding doctors and the pharmaceutical-medical-technological complex. Western doctors, by and large, are pharmaceutical salesmen who go through a system of government issued mind control, with an end result geared to serve their corporate masters. Believe me, I have a Masters degree in Molecular Genetics and almost every class I took was entirely scripted to make us good little SLAVES for the system.

Regarding splenda, it is a very misleading product because on the label it says "derived from natural sugar". But, what they do is take a sugar molecule and strip it of certain functional groups (atoms and molecules off the main carbon backbone) and substitute them with Chlorine atoms, which are toxic to your system. Do the research for yourselves if you don't believe me. Aspertame (NutraSweet) on the other hand, is a downright killer. BAD BAD BAD.

Don't trust the FDA. They are not serving your health, only corporations who pay them the fuck off!!!

Belgie
06-01-2008, 10:03 PM
Oh give me a break mister I've-got-a-masters...
a) The FDA aren't the only people to approve Splenda.
b) If you had genuinely gotten a Masters in any science you'd have more respect for the scientific method. The largest prizes in science are given to those who can overthrow an established idea. They are a far cry from scripted classes to make you some sort of intellectual slaves to a system.

El Nino
06-02-2008, 01:01 AM
Science itself is inherently a great tool of humanity. However, it is thoroughly controlled by political bureaucracies and "political policy". (Of Course Not the FDA exclusively, but you still can't trust them)

I am not bragging that I have a couple of academic degrees. In fact, looking back it was kind of a waste of money, energy and time. I did very well though and I was even offered free enrollment and tuition to study medicine at three Universities (Tufts, UVM and Northeastern), upon graduating. I turned them all down becuase I was sick of the academic complex and wanted to live my life stress free. I am a humble person and am not bragging. The only reason I brought up my credentials was to corroborate my statements on Splenda, Aspartame and things of that nature. So don't assume anything about me please. I am just stating facts. For more on government corruption and its ties with drug profiting, you can view this link, which depicts Donald Rumsfeld's role in having Aspartame flood American food shelves...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N0z8stino

http://www.newswithviews.com/NWVexclusive/exclusive15.htm

P.S. Aspartame in a neurotoxin that burns holes in cerebral tissues. Just throwing that out there....

jimbobw2
06-02-2008, 01:02 AM
my grandmother hoards splends packets that she gets from random places (shopping bags full) because she doesnt want to go without it after its pulled off the market for being unsafe. :screwy

:P

El Nino
06-02-2008, 07:56 AM
Well, she probably has earned that right! ;)

ottorocket
06-02-2008, 08:44 AM
^^grandma sounds like a hoot :)

ottorocket
06-02-2008, 08:45 AM
Splenda...meh,...sounds harmless enuff.

qeuqheeg222
06-02-2008, 10:21 AM
really why do people even fuck with this fake sweet shit...just retrain your fuckin tastebud to endorphin/dopamine connections to work on a salty or spicy current and get a modest amount of fuckin exercise-y'all will be okay...

qeuqheeg222
06-02-2008, 10:40 AM
are tastebuds a chakra?????

Steve-Oh
06-02-2008, 10:50 AM
Any fake sweetener tastes like crap to me.
"Pour some sugar on meee"

Trogdor
06-02-2008, 12:06 PM
Science itself is inherently a great tool of humanity. However, it is thoroughly controlled by political bureaucracies and "political policy". (Of Course Not the FDA exclusively, but you still can't trust them)

I am not bragging that I have a couple of academic degrees. In fact, looking back it was kind of a waste of money, energy and time. I did very well though and I was even offered free enrollment and tuition to study medicine at three Universities (Tufts, UVM and Northeastern), upon graduating. I turned them all down becuase I was sick of the academic complex and wanted to live my life stress free. I am a humble person and am not bragging. The only reason I brought up my credentials was to corroborate my statements on Splenda, Aspartame and things of that nature. So don't assume anything about me please. I am just stating facts. For more on government corruption and its ties with drug profiting, you can view this link, which depicts Donald Rumsfeld's role in having Aspartame flood American food shelves...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N0z8stino

http://www.newswithviews.com/NWVexclusive/exclusive15.htm

P.S. Aspartame in a neurotoxin that burns holes in cerebral tissues. Just throwing that out there....

I think Belgie needs to know that pretty much the FDA is the police force for drug companies, and did ya ever notice that low cost, non patented methods ( The homeopathic hippie things as he mentioned, which I take as a compliment ), which have been used in Asia and Europe for MANY years takes forever if ever to reach here? I mean for heart disease, in Europe, they give ya fish oil to take, yet in the states, you get a bottle of god knows what chemicals that's gonna mess ya up more than the benefits offered. I never take pharmacudicals or vacinations, and I am healthy as a horse and rarely get sick, and only for a dar or so when I do get sick. And don't get me started on vacinations these days.

Anyohw, back to Splenda......not only do these artifical sweeteners mess ya up and taste awful, they dont fiill ya up and ya eat more cause of it. Remember the fat free craze in the 90's? More people put on weight than lost. And aspartame also changes compostion in warm tempuratures and seeing those soda bottles in warm store shelves, I hate to think what sorta damage they can do.

And yes, I avoid using plastic as much as I can cause the chemicals that make the plastic bottle flexible can leach into the liquids....ever taste water from a plastic bottle ya leave out in your car on a hot day? Tastes very different.

Science is not about degrees or some piece of paper that makes ya look importent...it's about curiosity, wanting to learn something, and persisitence to do so.

And yes, I believe global warming is not real, or not what Gore was talking about anyhow.

Well, that was sure a mixed hodge podge responce :D

Belgie
06-02-2008, 04:58 PM
Dude, you're entitled to your opinions. I simply point out the following:
In test after test, homeopathy has been shown to be as effective as a placebo.
Global Warming is a fact, to the extent that even McCain is telling the Republicans they can't pretend it's a myth anymore.
And I'll take the word of a qualified doctor over something I read on the internet.

El Nino
06-03-2008, 03:08 AM
Um.... no

El Nino
06-03-2008, 03:32 AM
It is wise to do research yourself and cross-reference it with that of many sources. Don't just take the word from some "qualified" individual blindly. This is obvious for myriad reasons.

blacktgirls
06-03-2008, 07:05 AM
i'm addicted to sugarless gum especially trident. i chew it so i won't get dry mouth. i quit cigarettes and booze but i can go through a pack of gum in 20 minutes because i love the flavor of a couple of fresh sticks of gum. i probable spend $200 a year on gum and that's a huge business so you no who the FDA works for :!: