Saliva HIV test gives results in minutes

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Saliva HIV test gives results in minutes

Published: May 7, 2008 at 3:41 PM
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MONTREAL, May 7 (UPI) -- A saliva test could help speed up detection of human immmunodeficiency virus, or HIV, Canadian researchers say.

The McGill University Health Center study, published in PLoS Medicine, demonstrated the efficacy of rapid saliva tests for all subtypes of HIV-1 and HIV-2 and produced results in as little as 20 minutes.

The saliva test, based on a method called immunochromatography, was used on 1,222 mothers in a labor ward in India using both saliva and blood samples. The results from both types of tests corresponded.

The labor ward saliva tests helped identify several HIV infected women who were about to give birth.

"In such cases, it is vital to determine the HIV status of the mother very quickly to prevent transmission to the child during delivery. Many Indian women do not receive prenatal care and therefore do not get tested for HIV during pregnancy," study leader Dr. Pant Pai says in statement.

"Testing in the labor ward is the last chance to prevent HIV transmission to the newborn baby. Also Indian patients often refuse blood collection, while saliva collection poses no problem."

[iloveshemales77]

Good news if it really works.

[NYCe]

They've had this for a while. You can even order home testing kits like this.

[blckhaze]

Hmmm interesting as HIV cant be passed through saliva, but can be detected though it. Unfortunately the usual suspects will avoid like the plague and the spread oF HIV and aids will continue.

[Alyssa87]

thats the ora-sure test rite?
i used to work on a mobile unit that used them.

[TomSelis]

There's a blood test that takes about 20 mins. I guess if you're scared of needles options are good.

[DC]

Im with worthy2, do not trust HIV tests, remember boxer Tommy Morrison, he was positive for 10 years and now he is negative and boxing again. For 10 years doctors pumped him full of chemicals that made him sick when there was nothing wrong with him to begin with.

[Alyssa87]

So do you think people should live their lives…
having sex, without being tested regularly?

[PeteIsHere]

Tommy Morrison is full of shit and has contradicted himself numerous times. He is still HIV+ and in case you didnt' know with the correct combination of medicines HIV levels can go undetected.


Im with worthy2, do not trust HIV tests, remember boxer Tommy Morrison, he was positive for 10 years and now he is negative and boxing again. For 10 years doctors pumped him full of chemicals that made him sick when there was nothing wrong with him to begin with.

[peggygee]

Tommy Morrison is full of shit and has contradicted himself numerous times. He is still HIV+ and in case you didnt' know with the correct combination of medicines HIV levels can go undetected.


Im with worthy2, do not trust HIV tests, remember boxer Tommy Morrison, he was positive for 10 years and now he is negative and boxing again. For 10 years doctors pumped him full of chemicals that made him sick when there was nothing wrong with him to begin with.

I don't know the pugilist Tommy Morrison but an undectable viral load and a high CD4 count (http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS268&q=undectable+viral+loads+%2B+HIV)
does not mean someone is HIV free.

[PeteIsHere]

Thank you Peggy Gee. I didn't know how to express what I wanted to say in scientific terms and you did it for me.



Tommy Morrison is full of shit and has contradicted himself numerous times. He is still HIV+ and in case you didnt' know with the correct combination of medicines HIV levels can go undetected.


Im with worthy2, do not trust HIV tests, remember boxer Tommy Morrison, he was positive for 10 years and now he is negative and boxing again. For 10 years doctors pumped him full of chemicals that made him sick when there was nothing wrong with him to begin with.

I don't know the pugilist Tommy Morrison but an undectable viral load and a high CD4 count (http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS268&q=undectable+viral+loads+%2B+HIV)
does not mean someone is HIV free.

[peggygee]

Thank you Peggy Gee. I didn't know how to express what I wanted to say in scientific terms and you did it for me.



Tommy Morrison is full of shit and has contradicted himself numerous times. He is still HIV+ and in case you didnt' know with the correct combination of medicines HIV levels can go undetected.


Im with worthy2, do not trust HIV tests, remember boxer Tommy Morrison, he was positive for 10 years and now he is negative and boxing again. For 10 years doctors pumped him full of chemicals that made him sick when there was nothing wrong with him to begin with.

I don't know the pugilist Tommy Morrison but an undectable viral load and a high CD4 count (http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS268&q=undectable+viral+loads+%2B+HIV)
does not mean someone is HIV free.

You're most welcome. :wink:

[TomSelis]

Not only that, but Tommy Morrison can't get a mainstream fight and he only fights in states where the results can be tampered with.....like West Virginia. If I were a boxer I wouldn't fight him.

I hope this doesn't turn into a conspiracy theory thread of how HIV doesn't really exist.

[qeuqheeg222]

i think magic johnson has a non-detectable virus load nowadays too...these guys can afford all the best trreatments...

[iloveshemales77]

...I hope this doesn't turn into a conspiracy theory thread of how HIV doesn't really exist.

ditto! A home saliva testing kit (if it's reliable) is a great advance. You meet someone and both want sex. Both do a quick test, wait 20 minutes and, if you get the all clear, off you go. Condoms can burst, slip off, or you don't put them on properly in the first place 'cos you're drunk and all that shit. Still leaves Hepatitis C as a risk though, which is around 100 times easier to catch than HIV.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Not only that, but Tommy Morrison can't get a mainstream fight and he only fights in states where the results can be tampered with.....like West Virginia. If I were a boxer I wouldn't fight him.

I hope this doesn't turn into a conspiracy theory thread of how HIV doesn't really exist.

Tom, I hope you are aware that the HIV=AIDS hypothesis is a medical hypothesis and not a proven fact. Medical literature says that if you have HIV you will 'most likely' develop AIDS, but there are people who are HIV positive and have not developed AIDS-and there is no scientific proof that everyone who is HIV positive will die of AIDS.

It's not a conspiricary theory- the fact is that there are medical proffesional and scientists who have different opinions on the matter of the HIV=AIDS theory.

Such as: http://www.duesberg.com/.

If you believe in the status quo on this subject- then according -the PCR DNA test (such as used by AIM) would be the most reliable on detecting HIV.

I suggest everyone who is concered about testing for HIV should test for other diseases like Hep C, Herpes, HPPV, and all other STD's which can be more highly communicable than HIV.

[iloveshemales77]

I'm on the sidelines re HIV = AIDS Allanah, as I feel I'm not well enough informed on the topic. So for the time being, I'll assume the worst and hope for the best.

On the other point: Herpes, HPPV, Hep C etc. I'm with you. You can be vaccinated for HPV nowadays and Herpes is so prevalent that the only way to avoid for sure it is by abstaining from sex outside a monogamous relationship. HIV and Hep C are the only real killers among STD's.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I'm on the sidelines re HIV = AIDS Allanah, as I feel I'm not well enough informed on the topic. So for the time being, I'll assume the worst and hope for the best.

On the other point: Herpes, HPPV, Hep C etc. I'm with you. You can be vaccinated for HPV nowadays and Herpes is so prevalent that the only way to avoid for sure it is by abstaining from sex outside a monogamous relationship. HIV and Hep C are the only real killers among STD's.

I truly believe that as far as HIV is concerened (or any conditon-like cancer), every case is unique and different and that lifestyle has also to do with the health of an HIV postive person. I know people who are HIV positve and have been hard core drug addicts for years and are still alive, I know a person who has been HIV positive for over 20 years and is fine, and I've known people who passed away rather quickly.

Disease and medicine are relative, and there are no absolutes in science. Just like some smokers will develop cancer, some peopke will smoke until there death bed and be ok. Everyone is different.

The best we can all do is practice safer sex amd of course try to lead healthier lives overall. And just be aware and make your own informed descions about your health-whatever you choose to believe.

[bh_boyy2]

The Hiv blood test is an inaccurate test so how is a saliva test gonna make a difference. It's just another scam by the corrupt pharmicutical industry to make more money.


Im with worthy2, do not trust HIV tests, remember boxer Tommy Morrison, he was positive for 10 years and now he is negative and boxing again. For 10 years doctors pumped him full of chemicals that made him sick when there was nothing wrong with him to begin with.

These are misconceptions. HIV tests are very effective. The HIV blood test used for screening (ELISA) is very sensitive. It means that a negative result is very reliable ("window period" has to be taken into consideration though). But ELISA's specificity is not so great, so that false-positive results are not uncommon. The results one gets from a clinic are usually a composite of 2 tests: ELISA and Western Blot. The latter, very specific, is used to confirm the results of the former.
A saliva test is a screening test, focused on sensibility. As false-positive results are not rare, especially if the test is conducted in a population with a low prevalence of HIV, they must be confirmed with more specific tests (e.g. Western Blot)

[TomSelis]

Not only that, but Tommy Morrison can't get a mainstream fight and he only fights in states where the results can be tampered with.....like West Virginia. If I were a boxer I wouldn't fight him.

I hope this doesn't turn into a conspiracy theory thread of how HIV doesn't really exist.

Tom, I hope you are aware that the HIV=AIDS hypothesis is a medical hypothesis and not a proven fact. Medical literature says that if you have HIV you will 'most likely' develop AIDS, but there are people who are HIV positive and have not developed AIDS-and there is no scientific proof that everyone who is HIV positive will die of AIDS.

It's not a conspiricary theory- the fact is that there are medical proffesional and scientists who have different opinions on the matter of the HIV=AIDS theory.

Such as: http://www.duesberg.com/.

If you believe in the status quo on this subject- then according -the PCR DNA test (such as used by AIM) would be the most reliable on detecting HIV.

I suggest everyone who is concered about testing for HIV should test for other diseases like Hep C, Herpes, HPPV, and all other STD's which can be more highly communicable than HIV.

Sure I'm aware of the counter argument against HIV. But I believe that people try to use it as an argument against using condoms and practicing safe sex which is a really bad way of thinking.

My analogy is, I've never seen a bear in real life. But I know they exist and I know they could seriously hurt you in the wild.

I'm aware of people that can carry the virus and never show any symptoms or test positive too. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be cautious with your life, that fact should make you MORE cautious.

I'm just saying holding up an example like Tommy Morrison or Magic Johnson is faulty. They've made advancements in treating the disease since the 80's and people still believe that it's a death sentence, you'll become skinny, purple spots, it's a gay disease, etc.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Not only that, but Tommy Morrison can't get a mainstream fight and he only fights in states where the results can be tampered with.....like West Virginia. If I were a boxer I wouldn't fight him.

I hope this doesn't turn into a conspiracy theory thread of how HIV doesn't really exist.

Tom, I hope you are aware that the HIV=AIDS hypothesis is a medical hypothesis and not a proven fact. Medical literature says that if you have HIV you will 'most likely' develop AIDS, but there are people who are HIV positive and have not developed AIDS-and there is no scientific proof that everyone who is HIV positive will die of AIDS.

It's not a conspiricary theory- the fact is that there are medical proffesional and scientists who have different opinions on the matter of the HIV=AIDS theory.

Such as: http://www.duesberg.com/.

If you believe in the status quo on this subject- then according -the PCR DNA test (such as used by AIM) would be the most reliable on detecting HIV.

I suggest everyone who is concered about testing for HIV should test for other diseases like Hep C, Herpes, HPPV, and all other STD's which can be more highly communicable than HIV.

Sure I'm aware of the counter argument against HIV. But I believe that people try to use it as an argument against using condoms and practicing safe sex which is a really bad way of thinking.

My analogy is, I've never seen a bear in real life. But I know they exist and I know they could seriously hurt you in the wild.

I'm aware of people that can carry the virus and never show any symptoms or test positive too. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be cautious with your life, that fact should make you MORE cautious.

I'm just saying holding up an example like Tommy Morrison or Magic Johnson is faulty. They've made advancements in treating the disease since the 80's and people still believe that it's a death sentence, you'll become skinny, purple spots, it's a gay disease, etc.

Being in the sex industry I have done A LOT of research on STD's, talked to several doctors, and read and read on the internet. I like to be aware on all sides of all issues to form my own opinions. Especially when it comes to medicine.

I've visited AIDS dissident websites- and truth be told, I have never see one that advocates not using condoms.

The same argument you are using is the same one also used by people who say that HIV has become a managable disease, therefore some people do not take it as serious and have a more lax attitude towards casual sex.

The fact is so many people are so blithely unaware of the multitude of STD's one can catch much easier thank HIV, like HEP C, that can also be very damaging.

I've always been a proponent of using condoms and being as safe as possible when having sex.

I talk to so many people who are so, so uneducated on these matters that it is quite frightening.

This is why we need better sex education in schools and give young people the right tools end information. And why people who are sexually active should be aware of the full spectrum of STD's.

I'm totally with you on people practicing safe sex.

[TomSelis]

Whether you know it or not I think we're on the same page. :;)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Whether you know it or not I think we're on the same page. :;)

I never doubted we were :)

[ottorocket]

So do you think people should live their lives…
having sex, without being tested regularly?

If people lived their lives by a traditional moral standard there would be little need to be tested for anything regularly.


How boring.

[Alyssa87]

So do you think people should live their lives…
having sex, without being tested regularly?

If people lived their lives by a traditional moral standard there would be little need to be tested for anything regularly.

YOU JACK OFF TO SHEMALES!

[ottorocket]

So do you think people should live their lives…
having sex, without being tested regularly?

If people lived their lives by a traditional moral standard there would be little need to be tested for anything regularly.

YOU JACK OFF TO SHEMALES!

:lol:

[justatransgirl]

I haven't read most of this thread. But I do know that I went to get an HIV test last Friday at our local county health clinic - which has the new rapid one week infection test (meaning it will detect antibodies within one week of exposure not 3 months) and was told there was a three hour wait, that they could only see 3 patients an hour. Sheesh.

This is in San Diego, a city with 1.3 million people! When I was escorting a lot I got tested every 4-8 weeks and it was always a huge hassle often requiring multiple trips. Some clinics didn't want to test more than once every 6 months, and they all have long waits. So if anyone wonders why people are going around HIV pos - there is one reason. The govt makes it too hard to get tested.

And yet there are simple rapid tests like the saliva test that people could use in their homes. So what if there is a higher chance of a false positive. I'd far rather be able to test a new partner and get a false reading than be exposed to HIV from somebody who hasn't tested because they can't get into the damn clinic because the Bush administration has cut funding and wants everyone who has sex outside of marriage to die.

And no offense but even having covered sex I'd rather not have it with a partner who was infected and didn't know it. And if anyone wants to know - that's one reason why escorts cost so much, every date she puts her life on the line for you.

Have fun, play safe and get tested!
TS Jamie :-)

[TsVanessa69]

thats the ora-sure test rite?
i used to work on a mobile unit that used them.
Yes you are right. I have been trained and certified by Ora-sure to administer the test. There is also a blood stick test that also offers a 20 minute test result.
I administer both at my job.
The Ora-shure test is 99.4% acurate

[vietboy]

Yea 100 percent false reading.
worthy2 is the dumbest piece of trailer-trash on this board.