ISN'T HAVING SEX FOR MONEY CONTRADICTORY TO THE WORD CLASSY?

there has been alot of talk about who's classy and who's not in the sex industry. it's alot of people on here who are stupid or blind TO THE LIFE THEY ARE LIVING. I'M NOT SURE PEOPLE REALIZE WHAT THEY SAY ON HERE UNTIL AFTER THEY SAY IT. so i have a few questions.....

To the men.... DO YOU REALIZE THAT TRANSEXUALS ARE ACTUALLY MEN? or do you convince yourself otherwise so you don't feel GAY? AND HOW CAN SOME OF YOU MEN ACT "HOLIER THAN THOU" WHEN U LIKE DICK? STRAIGHT SOCIETY CONSIDERS U A FAG. AND IF THEY DIDN'T THEN WHY AREN'T HALF OF YA'LL PUBLIC WITH YOUR INTEREST IN TRANNYS?

BEING NICE AND BEING CLASSY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. HOW CAN ANYONE WHO LETS RANDOM MEN CUM ALL OVER THEM AND ON THEIR FACE ON FILM FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO SEE BE REFERRED TO AS CLASSY (INCLUDING MYSELF FOR ALL MY HATERS)? IT'S A CONTRADICTION. YOU CAN SAY SOMEONE IS CLASSY BUT IT IS WHAT IT REALLY IS. MARILYN MONROE WAS CLASSY, BEYONCE IS CLASSY, J.LO IS CLASSY, LIZ TAYLOR IS CLASSY. A MAN DRESSING LIKE A GIRL, ESCORTING (PROSTITUTING FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD), AND BEING FILMED IN THE MOST INTIMATE OF MOMENTS IS NOT CLASSY NO MATTER HOW NICE THEY ARE JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU CONVINCED YOURSELF FOR YOUR OWN EGO.

WHAT IT REALLY IS...
A MAN PRETENDING TO BE A GIRL AND CHARGING PEOPLE FOR SEX IN THERE HOMES AND ALSO BEING SHOWN PUBLICLY HAVING SEX ON FILM.

WHAT U WANNA THINK IT IS...
A GIRL WITH DICK (GIRLS DON'T HAVE DICKS BY THE WAY THEY HAVE VAGINA'S) WHO DOES MASSAGE AND IS A PORN STAR.

LMAO@ FOLKS WHO GLAMOURIZE SHIT SO THEY FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING. I WONDER HOW MANY GUYS WHOSE WIVES OR CHILDREN OR FAMILY MEMBERS OR FRIENDS OR PARENTS ACTUALLY KNOW THEY HAVE SEX WITH TRANNYZ?? HMMMMM.

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THESE RESPONSES. PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE. DON'T BE CONFUSED AND TYPE IN REGARD TO WHAT YOU SEE IT AS. STEP OUT OF THE BOX AND SEE IT FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS AND THEN TYPE. :D

THE MOST HATED, MOST RATED, TRANNY UNDERDOG HAS SPOKEN :D

P.S.- LET'S SEE IF WE CAN HAVE AN ACTUAL DISCUSSION INSTEAD OF TURNING THIS INTO A PERSONAL ATTACK ON ANY OF THE GIRLS HERE.

[tippinnottrippin]

Wow well put after saying all that I know I have class now.


My class is from 2pm to 5pm today so when I get back you think you'll have some pics of Vanity I think she is sexy oh and classy

wow, such intellectual responses all ready. i can see this is gonna be an educated thread.

@!%#@&%$#^%)+_)()+_())* :lol:

[geekmeat]

there has been alot of talk about who's classy and who's not in the sex industry. it's alot of people on here who are stupid or blind TO THE LIFE THEY ARE LIVING. I'M NOT SURE PEOPLE REALIZE WHAT THEY SAY ON HERE UNTIL AFTER THEY SAY IT. so i have a few questions.....

To the men.... DO YOU REALIZE THAT TRANSEXUALS ARE ACTUALLY MEN? or do you convince yourself otherwise so you don't feel GAY? AND HOW CAN SOME OF YOU MEN ACT "HOLIER THAN THOU" WHEN U LIKE DICK? STRAIGHT SOCIETY CONSIDERS U A FAG. AND IF THEY DIDN'T THEN WHY AREN'T HALF OF YA'LL PUBLIC WITH YOUR INTEREST IN TRANNYS?

BEING NICE AND BEING CLASSY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. HOW CAN ANYONE WHO LETS RANDOM MEN CUM ALL OVER THEM AND ON THEIR FACE ON FILM FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO SEE BE REFERRED TO AS CLASSY (INCLUDING MYSELF FOR ALL MY HATERS)? IT'S A CONTRADICTION. YOU CAN SAY SOMEONE IS CLASSY BUT IT IS WHAT IT REALLY IS. MARILYN MONROE WAS CLASSY, BEYONCE IS CLASSY, J.LO IS CLASSY, LIZ TAYLOR IS CLASSY. A MAN DRESSING LIKE A GIRL, ESCORTING (PROSTITUTING FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD), AND BEING FILMED IN THE MOST INTIMATE OF MOMENTS IS NOT CLASSY NO MATTER HOW NICE THEY ARE JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU CONVINCED YOURSELF FOR YOUR OWN EGO.

WHAT IT REALLY IS...
A MAN PRETENDING TO BE A GIRL AND CHARGING PEOPLE FOR SEX IN THERE HOMES AND ALSO BEING SHOWN PUBLICLY HAVING SEX ON FILM.

WHAT U WANNA THINK IT IS...
A GIRL WITH DICK (GIRLS DON'T HAVE DICKS BY THE WAY THEY HAVE VAGINA'S) WHO DOES MASSAGE AND IS A PORN STAR.

LMAO@ FOLKS WHO GLAMOURIZE SHIT SO THEY FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING. I WONDER HOW MANY GUYS WHOSE WIVES OR CHILDREN OR FAMILY MEMBERS OR FRIENDS OR PARENTS ACTUALLY KNOW THEY HAVE SEX WITH TRANNYZ?? HMMMMM.

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THESE RESPONSES. PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE. DON'T BE CONFUSED AND TYPE IN REGARD TO WHAT YOU SEE IT AS. STEP OUT OF THE BOX AND SEE IT FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS AND THEN TYPE. :D

THE MOST HATED, MOST RATED, TRANNY UNDERDOG HAS SPOKEN :D

P.S.- LET'S SEE IF WE CAN HAVE AN ACTUAL DISCUSSION INSTEAD OF TURNING THIS INTO A PERSONAL ATTACK ON ANY OF THE GIRLS HERE.

You know what?
Your exactly right.
How can I argue anything you have said .......and thats the problem.
But what I am attracted to is the femininity SOME transexuals have.
Generally transexuals are much more effeminate and feminine than genetic girls....they are girlier.......so if you like girly girls like me and these people look like girls you WILL BE ATTRACTED to them regardless if you act on your feeling.
Make no mistake plenty of "straight" guys are attracted to transexuals because they look like girls but DONT want to have sex with anyone with a penis.

As far as transexuals escorting and doing movies I think your being a but hard.
Many girls as you know come from disadvantaged backgrounds and dont have the funds to pursue college moreover their very appearance would cause problems.
Regardless of what you think transexuals ARE NOT accepted by soceity.....they are stigmatized,discriminated against,attacked,beaten and killed for no other reason than being themselves.
Thats a lot to overcome.......
It take so much guts to just walk out that door in the daytime as a transexual.......they have to go through WAY more than almost ANYONE in our soceity.
Almost all of soceity is against them....all the institiutions......religious groups say they should BE STONED.
political institutions rail against them...they are discriminated against by the police,by the medical institutions,ect............
Escorting is the only way for some girls to survive.......
Mind you there is a HUGE problem with trafficing of women worldwide and SLAVERY of women........
When everyday people are openly plotting against you the level of open hostility is high......no OTHER group goes through this much hate so I will give the girls a pass on the escort thing.......

Now some girls(those who transitioned much later in life will disagree with me) have it much easier.
Being white and coming from a middle class background versus being black or latin and coming from a lowerclass background is a HUGE advantage.
Those people SHOULD NOT even comment on this.

[TominNYC]

...I`ll give you credit for being honest and giving your "no holes barred" opinion. What I don`t understand is why you would come on to a board like this and not care about alienating thousands of potential customers? I see that a post from yesterday had 9400 views in one day, thats alot of potential business for you. I`m sure that you will say that you are doing great anyway but what is the point of throwing business away by shocking and pissing off people? As a successful business person myself I am scratching my head. I think alot of my customers are assholes but it would cost me in the pocket if I let them know... :?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

MYOFB mode still in effect until midnight

geekmeat, the issue isn't escorting. i'm both an escort and a transexual and to top it off i live in baltimore so believe me i know about hardships. the issue is people referring to certain transexuals as classy. i feel what you are saying. i go out in the daytime like all these other ts and i live in 1 of the most dangerous cities in america yet i have never had a problem. my philosiphy is if u can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.
i think the point of my post was to wake people up and have them see stuff for what it really is.

tom, thanks for the friendly business advice but yesterday my sign-ups doubled. i'm always going to be honest because i personally despise people who sugar coat things for their advantage. i'm not trying to shock people or throw business away and i don't see how my statements are shocking to you but a girl with a penis isn't? atleast 3000 of those views came from . because i wanted my fans n friends n those who know me to see what was written about me. and also this site has alot of cheapskates who don't even join sites that's why they are here, because this is free and there's lots of free pix. again i appreciate your concern but if anything u should respect my honesty and be happy that i'm not all about a dollar. i have everything i want n need. if u got it, i had it, n got tired of it and dont want it any more. i do fine. let's focuse more on the issues i present rather then my business skills because as i said in a previous post most folks on here are not in a position to challenge my expertise. i've been a TS since 14. that was 8 years ago. i know what i do and say.

muahzzzzzzz ~*MONI*~ :P

[geekmeat]

I have to agree that many guy on this board have sex with TS girls....assume the "submissive" role(lets be honest) and think they are straight.
They arent.
Once you put your lips on a dick or let a chick "pump you up" thats it...you aint straight no more buddy.
Now is it possible to have a relationship with a TS and remain straight?
I think so......dont suck dick and dont take it up the ass......
But that aint a lot of the guys on this board........
And believe me im not putting anyone down......I am open mided if thats what you like who am I to judge you?
Dont call yourself straight because you arent.....straight guys dont suck dick.....even if it is on a woman...

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I think what one does and how one carries themselves are two different things. Manners, behaviours, treatment of others- which are some of the things that to me define "class" have nothing to do sometimes with how much money a person has or what they do.

There are plenty of people with money and social standing who are trashy- i.e. Paris Hilton. And good for her-

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being in the sex business-
negative attitudes towards the sex business are especially prevalent in America, where sexual repression is very common in the media and the culture.

Other countries in the world have much less lax attitudes towards nudity and sexuality and much less of a double standard. Of course, there are countries who are on the extreme oposite end of that example.

A woman who might be elegant, gracefull, and "classy" maybe doing the same things that a woman who is a porn star does on films behind closed doors.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

PS.

And I think if we all stopped worrying about labels and who is sucking dick or taking it in the ass this world would be a much better place.

Yes, I was born male, yes I have been called a faggot, man, etc.
but I really do not care. I am a transsexual woman now and you can love me or hate me for it.

[Ecstatic]

Nothing shocking about what you say, .: it's all been said before, many times, on this board and elsewhere. And there's a lot of truth to it--and a lot of shade as well.

Here's my take, fwiw:

1) I don't worry about "not feeling gay" because I am bisexual (pansexual is actually the better term) and have been all my adult life (that's over 30 years--which may make me a dirty old man to some of the young'uns but that's a different issue). Yes, I do know that transsexuals are born men. As to whether they are "actually men" is a matter of definition and self-image. I find it endlessly fascinating (and more than a little irritating at times) that those very "girls" who so want to be seen as "women" and who gender identify as women are so often the ones to call out men who want to have sex with them as gay and as the derogatory "tranny chaser": regardless of the truth of this perspective regarding these men, there is a deep psychological issue here regarding such a "girl"'s own self-worth and self-image: she is putting down others due to her own ambivalance regarding her sexual and gender identity (I'm not saying you're necessarily one of those girls; that's something you can only say for yourself).

I really don't care if straight society considers me a fag for liking TS: such people already would consider me a fag for enjoying sex with men. However, I do find it weird that some guys who like TS would put me down for also liking men; that to me is a double standard. And I think it's rather strange that TS would put me down for the same reason. What difference does it make? They enjoy men! Why shouldn't I? NOTE: I am NOT, and have never been (with one exception when I was about 22 years old) attracted to men in any romantic or emotional way; I simply enjoy sex with someone who has a dick. Since I "discovered" TS, I have had no interest in men because I get all my sexual satisfaction in one place. Is there a sexual category for such a person? I don't care; I am what and who I am.

2) Classy? Again, definition of terms. No, I guess I would agree with you that "anyone who lets random men cum all over them" (and thanks for being honest about including yourself in that description) isn't "classy." But then I think that each of the women you mention can also be described as "not classy" for other reasons (it's not classy to marry as frivolously as Liz Taylor has; it's definitely not classy for J.Lo to parade her (awesome) bod down the red carpet with her tits and butt hanging out (or about to bust out); it's not classy for Marilyn to sleep with so many men of such renown (though who could blame her?); etc.

3) I don't think most TS working in porn or as escorts are "pretending" to be women for sex and money: why on earth would they put themselves through so much for sex and money? Maybe some do, but most I think really do gender identify as women and either enjoy sex a tremendous amount (nothing wrong with that) or see no other means of making a substantial income or both, and YES they do take advantage of johns and porn fans to make their living (few care about their clients beyond the hour--which is usually 20 minutes--though some do), but pretension? The only pretension most TS escorts and porn stars are guilty of is pretending to enjoy being with their clients, NOT pretending to be women. They are, or want to be, women; they (as you) live as women 24/7, not just when they're on the hustle.

4) I'll omit any comments about the 2% of society who are intersexed and either choose their sex or have their sex assigned by surgeons at birth, but I will say this: I see no issue with a woman having a cock. Or are you arguing that a tranny is pretending until and unless "he" has SRS and becomes a "she"? I think that's discriminating as well; I firmly believe (based on some girls I've known) that a tranny can fully gender identify as a woman in all respects and yet not want to have SRS--perhaps because she simply enjoys her cock too much to take that step and doesn't see it as interferring with being a woman. Is that wrong? There are several members of TGPixel who I think would fit that description. Yes, a lot of TS escort tops top only because there's a lot of money in it, and they want to get out of that cycle and go for SRS (and full power to them; I'm 100% behind everyone being the person they want to be), but I don't think that describes ALL TS tops.

4) My wife does know about my having sex with TS (not all incidences: she doesn't want a blow-by-blow description, lol), and she has actually met my favorite TS friend in a social setting. So I at least skew the numbers there a bit for you.

5) You say:


PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE. DON'T BE CONFUSED AND TYPE IN REGARD TO WHAT YOU SEE IT AS. STEP OUT OF THE BOX AND SEE IT FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS AND THEN TYPE.
I infer from this comment that anyone who posts disagreeing with you is not seeing it for what it is. How can I possibly not write about the way I see it? If I don't, then I'm the one guilty of pretension.

., you've raised some good points, and I hope you take my comments in the spirit of dialogue, as I think there are many sides to the issues you raise.

people here are missing the point. hoz aren't classy. yes there is a possibility that classy women do it behind closed doors. but that's what makes them classy.

i don't veiw paris as trashy and apparently other folks don't either because they eat up everything she feeds them. she's everywhere. her porn was accidental. that was something personal for her and her man and he betrayed her. she is a prime example of someone who despite her money is gonna be who she is regardless and not act a certain way to please other people as a marketing strategy.

i wasn't saying anything is wrong with the sex industry. it's worked marvels for alot of us. but classy is not a proper word to describe it or anyone invloved in it.

if you treat people nice that makes u nice not classy. if you have manners and morals then you have manners and morals that just means you were brought up properly. i say please thank you and i am polite and respect those who earn it but that doesn't mean i have blue blood. i can view a homosexual man who lives as a woman as beautiful but not classy. again it's a poor choice of words.


ps... y ya azz aint back at . yet? fanz been asking bout u. we mizz u. :D

[geekmeat]

I think what one does and how one carries themselves are two different things. Manners, behaviours, treatment of others- which are some of the things that to me define "class" have nothing to do sometimes with how much money a person has or what they do.

There are plenty of people with money and social standing who are trashy- i.e. Paris Hilton. And good for her-

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being in the sex business-
negative attitudes towards the sex business are especially prevalent in America, where sexual repression is very common in the media and the culture.

Other countries in the world have much less lax attitudes towards nudity and sexuality and much less of a double standard. Of course, there are countries who are on the extreme oposite end of that example.

A woman who might be elegant, gracefull, and "classy" maybe doing the same things that a woman who is a porn star does on films behind closed doors.

You wanna talk about Paris Hilton?
Lets talk about Paris Hilton......
People talk about Paris Hilton like she is a dog.
They hate her because she is rich and beautiful.
People say Paris Hilton is trashy and has no class but I think its all just an act.
What makes her so charming is that she ISNT VERY GOOD at being a trashy girl....thats her charm.
Unlike certain other celebrities such as Madonna who is worshipped.

In the pass "class" was define by the rich,the elite......generally rich people were more refined and well mannered.
Prostitution IS low class........there is NO way around it......HOWEVER there are women who do this that are EXTREMELY classy........a contradiction for sure.
Just because someone commits a trashy act does not mean they have no class.
Im generalizing here again but lately being classy and well mannered and refined is NOT rewarded in this country.
Years ago everyone wanted to be rich and emulated rich people....they way they talked and how their houses looked ect........
Remember Art Deco?
Everyone wanted a perfectly manicured lawn and lawn orniments because thats the way rich people lived and rich people had class and were refined and intelligent and people lusted for this......
In other words it was cool to be rich...
Now a days being cool is to be poor and to have the characteristic attributed to the poor.......uncouth,uneducated,poorly dressed and badly behaved.......this is whats in vogue now.

The popular culture reflects the lack of refinement now in vogue in music and art and telelvision,ect.........
Before what was kept behind doors and secret is now gaudily displayed for all to see.
It is the times my friend.....the times....

There is almost no arena for the class and glamour of yesterday to exist today.......there is no air to breathe........
Class is now looked upon as thinking you are better than people(which those people are lets face it).

i appreciate what u said and u are an exception to the rule ecstatic. i was speaking of the majority of men.

i don't really use the term "tranny chaser" but at the same time i dont think its derogatory either, it a term to describe men who are promiscuous in the ts lifestyle. if u are promiscuous then expect to be labeled that. if your were promiscuous with gg's u would be chasin pussy i.e. a "pussy chaser". no one considers that derogatory so y should it be derogatory just because u say tranny instead of pussy?

people think i'm crazy because i don't view the term shemale as derogatory either. it's not. it's just a porn term. i hate when people in chats act all stuck up when that word is used. just thought i would drop that in there. :D


wow this has been pretty civilized thus far i'm impressed.

[Ecstatic]

Thanks, .. I appreciate that. I think whether tranny chaser is derogatory or not depends upon the context and person using the term; in your case I wouldn't consider it derogatory anymore than I would shemale. (However, I tend to favor whichever term the shemale/tranny/transwoman/tgirl/etc. I'm talking with prefers, just as a sign of respect to her.)

Am I promiscuous? Good question. Is there a number associated with that term, or just an attitude? I have been with 9 or 10 TS thus far, most of whom were a one-time encounter. That I guess would make me somewhat promiscuous. But what I seek isn't just an hour's fun (though of course I do want that), it's to make at least some degree of connection with the girl so that I will want to see her again. There are two girls I've come to know for several years who I repeat with (and who I also see on a non-sexual basis as well), and a third who may fit that description. I have about 6 or 7 encounters a year.

[Ecstatic]

Hi hingshing. Yep, I've lived in Mass about 2/3 of my life (born in Maine, lived here in high school and college, also in Arizona, Colorado, and Michigan) and have been back here for 21 years now. I keep meaning to check out Jacques, but I live 35 miles west of the city, so I don't get in that often. There are a few Boston girls I'd like to meet, but I focus my attention these days on two lovely Thai girls, Venus and Jasmin (both in NYC but they do travel here from time to time).

My preference in girls is actually that she's versatile, as I enjoy both giving and receiving, but if a girl's preference is to top, that's fine by me.

I enjoy your posts as well. I hope the board as a whole shifts more to intelligent posts and away from the needless attacks.

[rick_932]

ya see, for a nigga like me, im only attracted to the most feminine ts ya dig. if a chick got too many manly features, then i cant get down with her. i havent been with a ts before, and dont think i ever will, but if it was to happen, id be the top cause i cant see myself suckin dick or receivin it ya dig. and unlike alot a cats into the ts scene, i cant see myself settling down with one. im still attracted to gg and the pussy and will still holla at a dime and try to get the # so i can smash. its been about a minute since i first became interested in ts and if i were to meet and fall for a girl who wants to get married and raise some kids, it wont be a problem for me to throw away my "fetish".

and fuck what society thinks. fuck their labels. if it were up to them, i wouldnt be finishing up school now gettin this EE degree and gettin paid. i dont let that shit worry me. if they wanna label me gay for being interested in a ts, fuck it. all i know is ima still get me in the end ya heard

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Your comment Geek, assuming that anyone who is a prostitute is trash is misguided and veiled with the same judgements and negative outlooks that people use to downgrade others.

What exactly is so bad about sex for money? Sex is a commidity like anything else-it is probably one of the most powerful selling points of anything on this earth.

Its best not to sit on a moral high horse, you might get knocked off easily.

[geekmeat]

Your comment Geek, assuming that anyone who is a prostitute is trash is misguided and veiled with the same judgements and negative outlooks that people use to downgrade others.

What exactly is so bad about sex for money? Sex is a commidity like anything else-it is probably one of the most powerful selling points of anything on this earth.

Its best not to sit on a moral high horse, you might get knocked off easily.

PLEASE REREAD MY POST.
read it carefully

rick u just haven't met the right TS. how bout u come n let me show u a few things? i guaruntee u will be wanting to make a TS (if not me) wifey by the time i'm done.

allanah i agree with both things u just said. we aren't trash and sex sells.
i don't exactly have sex with my clients but i do sexual things so i'm guilty by association. there's nothing wrong with it. it's just not appropriate to use the word classy to describe it. u r still my role model tho. n i have no problem publicly admitting it. i liked the comment about the moral high horse. i think that is exactly what i was getting at. how can guys talk shit to certain girls n praise others yet they are into us in the first place. the whole shit is contradictory.

LMAO@ everyone for getting a lil off topic. but that's okay cuz we are all communicating in a calm fashion about issues on our minds. i like that.

muaaaaaaahz. :D

[Man Fuck It]

cues violin...same shit different day

again... u must be an unhappy individual because u are a sarcastic pessimist in most of your postings. i could live with out it really.

[ONEWORLD]

WHEN I FIRST READ THIS POST, I WAS LIKE "NOT AGAIN, ATLEAST WIFEY IS COMING HOME TOMORROW AND I CAN FALL BACK OFF THIS SHIT"...

BUT THEN I READ CLOSER; THIS SEEMS TO BE A JEALOUSY ISSUE...


the issue is people referring to certain transexuals as classy...

"WHY SHOULD SHE BE CALLED CLASSY WHEN WE ARE ALL HOES?"... :wink:

FELLAS, THESE GURLS ARE ALWAYS SNIPING AT EACH OTHER...

ASK YOURSELF, WHICH GIRL ON THIS BOARD IS REFERRED TO AS CLASSY AND WHICH TWO GIRLS GOT BOMBARDED WITH ATTACKS ALL WEEK... :wink:

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I'LL PLAY THE GAME AND ADDRESS THIS SHIT ANYWAY...



BEING NICE AND BEING CLASSY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS….

I AGREE, THE TERM “CLASS” & “CLASSY” ARE TERMS THAT ARE OVERUSED IN OUR SOCIETY…

I DON’T EVEN LIKE TO USE THE WORD BECAUSE IT’S SO OVERSUSED THAT IT SOUNDS CLASS-LESS TO USE IT, LOL…



MARILYN MONROE WAS CLASSY, BEYONCE IS CLASSY, J.LO IS CLASSY, LIZ TAYLOR IS CLASSY. A MAN DRESSING LIKE A GIRL, ESCORTING (PROSTITUTING FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD), AND BEING FILMED IN THE MOST INTIMATE OF MOMENTS IS NOT CLASSY NO MATTER HOW NICE THEY ARE JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU CONVINCED YOURSELF FOR YOUR OWN EGO.

MARILYIN MONROE WAS A HOE…
BEYONCE IS A HOE…
J.LO IS A HO…
LIZ TAYLOR WAS A HOE…
YOU’RE A HOE… 8)

IT IS WHAT IT IS…

BUT GUESS WHAT, HOE’S ARE PEOPLE TOO…

EVERYONE DESERVES ATLEAST A MODICUM OF RESPECT…

JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE A HOE, DOESN’T MEAN I HAVE TO CALL ONE EVERYTIME I SEE YA…



I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THESE RESPONSES. PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE. DON'T BE CONFUSED AND TYPE IN REGARD TO WHAT YOU SEE IT AS. STEP OUT OF THE BOX AND SEE IT FOR WHAT IT REALLY IS AND THEN TYPE.

MONI, I’LL DO THAT IF YOU PROMISE TO USE YOUR SEARCH FUNCTION AND SEE HOW MANY TIMES THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN DONE…

I’M NOT SAYING THAT YOU MIGHT NOT TACKLE IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT DON’T THINK YOU ARE CREATING THE WHEEL… :wink:

history repeats itself. have u been to the movie theater lately?? never jealous, always real. class & prostitution don't mix.

[castabyss]

I could give a shit about who's classy and who isn't. I guess prostitution isn't classy. So what? Would most guys call me a FAG for hooking up with transexuals (which has happened more than once to me)? Yep. So what? I identify myself as HUMAN who exists on various parts of the sexuality continuum on various days. Call it what you want. I call it enjoying the hell out of myself.

[tippinnottrippin]

I could give a shit about who's classy and who isn't. I guess prostitution isn't classy. So what? Would most guys call me a FAG for hooking up with transexuals (which has happened more than once to me)? Yep. So what? I identify myself as HUMAN who exists on various parts of the sexuality continuum on various days. Call it what you want. I call it enjoying the hell out of myself.
I don't think you are a fag you seem cool to me.
Anywho do you know who Shade is?

[LG]

Okay, long post. A thousand apologies.

., you're such a beautiful girl and seem so nice, but why the huge chip on your shoulder? One moment you're advertising your abundant charms, the next you're attacking everyone (including yourself).

You said:


BEING NICE AND BEING CLASSY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. HOW CAN ANYONE WHO LETS RANDOM MEN CUM ALL OVER THEM AND ON THEIR FACE ON FILM FOR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO SEE BE REFERRED TO AS CLASSY (INCLUDING MYSELF FOR ALL MY HATERS)?

I suppose anyone who gets paid for sex wouldn't normally be considered classy, nor is it considered classy for a person to pay for sex, but being classy about sex isn't the only thing that marks out a person's class.

So you're not classy. Fine. So all of us guys aren't classy. Fine. Who gives a shit? Maybe at least we're nice, as you say. This isn't exactly a forum dedicated to class. Beauty, maybe. Sex, definitely. But class? Umm, I don't think so.

Escorting isn't about class. It's a choice you girls (from what you have written it looks as if you'd rather I wrote "you guys") make for one or more of various reasons- money mostly, job satisfaction maybe, I don't know.

The you go ahead and call us all gay. Fine. I've always termed gay as "being sexually attracted to other guys", so I happen to disagree a little, but fine. Why are you so into labels? It's isn't all black and white. It's not just guys, girls and guys who try to look like girls. There's a genuinely infinite spectrum of sexuality.

You also wrote:


STRAIGHT SOCIETY CONSIDERS U A FAG. AND IF THEY DIDN'T THEN WHY AREN'T HALF OF YA'LL PUBLIC WITH YOUR INTEREST IN TRANNYS?

and


LMAO@ FOLKS WHO GLAMOURIZE SHIT SO THEY FEEL BETTER ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

I'm not glamourising shit. What people are doing in this case isn't actually wrong or bad. It's just different and unaccepted by society. Why aren't most admirers public about liking transexuals? Probably because society is constructed in such a way that they have too much to lose ( their jobs, their marriages, their friends) if it were public.

geekmeat said


I have to agree that many guy on this board have sex with TS girls....assume the "submissive" role(lets be honest) and think they are straight.
They arent.
Once you put your lips on a dick or let a chick "pump you up" thats it...you aint straight no more buddy.
Now is it possible to have a relationship with a TS and remain straight?
I think so......dont suck dick and dont take it up the ass......

No, I disagree with those guys who say "Oh, I like tgirls because they're more feminine." or "Hey, I'm not gay like some others, because I'm a top.Fuck that! If the bottoms are gay, then the tops are gay too. A man who is a straight looking gay top, who always likes to be the active one is still a gay man.

Tgirls can be more feminine in more ways. Often some girls try harder, or accentuate the feminine features (longer eyelashes, fuller, redder lips, larger breasts). But admirers or trannylovers or trannychasers or whatever you call them, like these girls mainly for one reason- they have a cock. If that's not the reason, why not just stick to GGs? If that's not the reason, why don't admirers go for post-ops?

I agree, it's not just the sexual side. It's not just the cock. But the cock is a part of the attraction for all admirers, whether you call yourselves straight, gay or bisexual, if you're a top, a bottom or versatile (why do we even need these terms?). Otherwise, why are you here?

geekmeat also said:


Being white and coming from a middle class background versus being black or latin and coming from a lowerclass background is a HUGE advantage.
Those people SHOULD NOT even comment on this.

Why the hell not? What has that to do with being classy? The term middle class refers to how society ranks people according to a number of perceived qualities, but mainly according to their level of income. The term classy here refers to an altogether different human quality, radiance exuded from a person that gives the appearance of quality, regardless of whether the person is rich or poor. The name of Paris Hilton has been mentioned. That's an example of a girl from a white, upper class background who's totally lacking in class. I know plenty of spolt rich kids who act like trash, and I know some relatively poor people whose self-dignity and charisma makes them shine above others. Now they've got class.

., you then said:


I think the point of my post was to wake people up and have them see stuff for what it really is.


i personally despise people who sugar coat things for their advantage. i'm not trying to shock people or throw business away and i don't see how my statements are shocking to you but a girl with a penis isn't?

Finally, we agree. Yes, transexuals (tgirls, shemales, hung angels, and the various other often derogatory terms used- I've seen 'chicks with dicks', 'dolls with balls' and 'cocks in frocks' all being used) were born male. All of them still have or used to have a penis. All of them remain genetically male. Yes, a girl with a penis is an oxymoron, a contradiction of terms. My first sight of oneon the cover of a magazine caused a great deal of shock, but not revulsion. I was, in fact, intrigued. Had I not felt that intrigue and explored further, I wouldn't be writing this today. Maybe I'd be happier if had just ignored it or had been repelled, because I realise now that my fantasy of meeting and having a real relationship with a TS may be an unattainable one.

TominNYC said


What I don`t understand is why you would come on to a board like this and not care about alienating thousands of potential customers? I see that a post from yesterday had 9400 views in one day, thats alot of potential business for you. I`m sure that you will say that you are doing great anyway but what is the point of throwing business away by shocking and pissing off people?

And you wrote:


tom, thanks for the friendly business advice but yesterday my sign-ups doubled.

Well maybe this post has actually been good for business. Maybe it was even an ingenious way to drum up some business, in which case ., I admire your business acumen as well as your beauty.

And finally, Allanah said:


I think if we all stopped worrying about labels and who is sucking dick or taking it in the ass this world would be a much better place.

And I say, Amen to that.

[castabyss]

I don't think you are a fag you seem cool to me.
Anywho do you know who Shade is?

LOL. Thanks man, I was worried there for a second.

And, for real, I think I saw SHADE and the Wizard of OZ conspiring backstage at LIVE 8. They're runnin' EVERYTHING, don't be fooled.

[ONEWORLD]

I don't think you are a fag you seem cool to me.
Anywho do you know who Shade is?

WHERE IS SHADE ANYWAY?...

SHE WAS THE ONLY INTERESTING CHARACTER TO ME ON THIS BOARD ANYWAY...

SHADE, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME...

I REALLY DIDN'T GIVE A SHIT WHO YOU WERE...

I JUST ENJOYED FUCKING WITH YOU... :twisted:

YOU NEVER TOOK THINGS TOO SERIOUSLY... :arrow:

allow me to explain sweetie. often times when people aren't speaking in person but rather typing things get taken out of it's original inetended context.

i started this forum to ask a question not insult men who are into ts. if that was the case none of us would have ever had boyfriends or have ever experienced LOVE.

i'm not insulting myself either. i threw that in there so my small following of haters who assume i think i'm better then everyone knew that i didn't exempt myself from this topic since i've been in porn as well. sometimes u have to spell stuff out for them before they start ranting and raving. am i a good person? yes, am i clean? yes, do i have money? yes, am i well attired? yes, am i honest? yes, do i have manners? yes, am i pretty yes? as well as most of these girls on here are.... BUTTTTTTTT classy would STILL be a poor choice of words to describe me or anyone else involved in this biz. I STARTED THIS FORUM BECAUSE I WAS CATCHING ALOT OF FLACK FOR NOT BEING "CLASSY" ENOUGH. HAHAHA. N BASICALLY MY BREAKDOWN WAS EXPLAINED PERFECTLY BY MY GURL ALLANAH. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE. HOW ARE U GONNA SAY I'M NOT CLASSY ENOUGH AND I'M A PORN STAR. THIS IS NOT THE INDUSTRY TO BE WORRIED ABOUT WHO'S CLASSY OR NOT. <--the point. I just wanted to show the guys attacking me the other day how stupid their statements were.

furthermore i agree that alot (but not most) of ts are more feminine then genetic women but that is because we have to be in order to acheive what we are going for... attracting semi-straight men and feeling like the woman we yearn to be.

[ONEWORLD]

...Your exactly right...But what I am attracted to is the femininity SOME transexuals have.
Generally transexuals are much more effeminate and feminine than genetic girls....they are girlier.......so if you like girly girls like me and these people look like girls you WILL BE ATTRACTED to them regardless if you act on your feeling.
Make no mistake plenty of "straight" guys are attracted to transexuals because they look like girls but DONT want to have sex with anyone with a penis.

THANK YOU...

I TOTAL SKIPPED THAT POINT EARLIER...



furthermore i agree that alot (but not most) of ts are more feminine then genetic women...

IN ANOTHER THREAD, THIS QUESTIOIN WAS POSED, "WHAT ARE YOU ATTRACTED TO?"...

FEMININITY...

PLAIN AND SIMPLE...

I LIKE GIRLY GIRLS...

THE ONES THAT ARE TOTALLY OBSESSED WITH THEIR LOOKS AND BEING THAT "BITCH", LOL...

BUT JUST LIKE TRANSEXUAL WOMEN THINK WE STEREOTYPE THEM, THE GURLS DO THE SAME TO US AND ASSUME WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING...

THAT WE ALL ARE TRICKS, LOL...

[SexxxyJade]

********ATTENTION**********
I will say this...."Its not what you do, its how you do it". I may be a Transexual, an escort, and i may do porn, but I am also every inch a Lady. I have much class in my mannerisms, the way i treat people, how i live my "personal" life, and in the way i carry myself. I have much class. Yes it is possible to be all of these things, escort, transexual, etc.. and still have class, many of us are prime examples. Ladies lets not let our anger in what poeple say on this forum say about us, and the way society labels us, bring us to the point where we have to put ourselves down. All of the ladies here that i know do what they do with pride and with thier heads held high, and to me that is nothing but Classy!
~Jada

that's sweet. :oops:

[canihavu]

wow, such intellectual responses all ready. i can see this is gonna be an educated thread.

Wow. I remember chatting with you a while back and you seemd so cool. Why do you seem so hostile lately? :shock:

not hostile babe. just speaking my mind. no malice intended. kisses.

[canihavu]

not hostile babe. just speaking my mind. no malice intended. kisses.

:D :D :D

[tsluver247]

Having sex for straight up money has a negative connotation towards it, but, in my opinion, it is better than a woman wanting to go shopping and the finest dining on the man's money but does not give it up. Class has nothing to do with someone's profession. Class has to do with style and attitude and it is in the eye of the beholder. Treat people the way you want to be treated.

[abblecore]

moni u are one of the smartest girls on this board.how can a girl say shes classy then i go to her house(when we never met before) fuck her doggystyle get a blowjob suck her cock lick her ass and cum on her stomach for $150. that cant be classy. also whats classy about having your own website with videos getting fucked and fucking others.moni is 100% right ashanti is classy jada pinkett is classy alicia keys is classy but escorts r not so stop typing that you r in your ads.sorry girls the truth hurts. but i still love ya.

[mixedprettyboy]

What exactly is so bad about sex for money? Sex is a commidity like anything else-it is probably one of the most powerful selling points of anything on this earth.

Prostitution (and yes being an escort is prostitution, if you're selling your body you're a prostitute) is morally a sin. Also, you're most likely a home wrecker if married men are seeking you out. How can you take money from men who could be married and have children?

Too many tranny chicks are just down right gold diggers. You need all this money to transition, but after you have transitioned you continue to escort. Is it really worth selling your soul to the devil?!

[wukinpunub68]

What exactly is so bad about sex for money? Sex is a commidity like anything else-it is probably one of the most powerful selling points of anything on this earth.

Prostitution (and yes being an escort is prostitution, if you're selling your body you're a prostitute) is morally a sin. Also, you're most likely a home wrecker if married men are seeking you out. How can you take money from men who could be married and have children?So what are they suppose to do, screen clients out and have them fill out a questionaire, they would not have clients if people where not WILLING to pay for it. Knowbody is forced to pay for anything and i would hope that clients are not spending there grocery money on a escort. And to the original post classy is as classy does.

[mixedprettyboy]

I'm not hatin because there are GG's who escort too and probably do the same things. But what I'm saying is why do they still escort after they've gotten all the money they need to transition? Are they stuck in the world of prostitution because they lack skills for a better job, because they love the money, or because they think that's all they're worth?

[Ecstatic]

What exactly is so bad about sex for money? Sex is a commidity like anything else-it is probably one of the most powerful selling points of anything on this earth.

Prostitution (and yes being an escort is prostitution, if you're selling your body you're a prostitute) is morally a sin. Also, you're most likely a home wrecker if married men are seeking you out. How can you take money from men who could be married and have children?

Too many tranny chicks are just down right gold diggers. You need all this money to transition, but after you have transitioned you continue to escort. Is it really worth selling your soul to the devil?!
Man, isn't it grand that morality is such an eclectic sport? How is it the girl's responsibility if the man "could" be married and have children? That's his lookout, not hers.

[mixedprettyboy]

Well Ecstatic, I feel sorry for you because you're just a trick to these ladies. They just want you for your money. That would hurt my feelings.

But if you're fine with it who am I to judge?

[wukinpunub68]

I'm not hatin because there are GG's who escort too and probably do the same things. But what I'm saying is why do they still escort after they've gotten all the money they need to transition? Are they stuck in the world of prostitution because they lack skills for a better job, because they love the money, or because they think that's all they're worth?I have a friend that was a pre-op and then a post op and she continued to do the escort thing but after a while she got out and is now doinga 9-5 has a husband and he does know so it is possible, to retire from the life as they say

[Ecstatic]

Don't feel sorry for me, Mixedthug. You don't know my sitch so don't be making judgement calls. Maybe I like being a trick once in a while. Maybe there are girls I'm actually (shock) friends with. None of that really matters. But if I want sex and they want money, what's the big deal? It ain't a sin in my book regardless.

[thatguy]

Hi. My name is thatguy and I am a trick.


Also, you're most likely a home wrecker if married men are seeking you out. How can you take money from men who could be married and have children?Let's turn that around. How can the married man do this to his wife and children? He took the vow, not the provider. People have to survive. Some make the money for providing a needed service, others pay the money to get what they need. That's all there is to it. Blame those who can't reconcile their need with their social reality.

[junior]

.,
Cool topic. You hit me right between the eyes. I am attracted to TS and GG. Been with plenty of GG never a TS. In my entire life I've been to a few TS clubs. I went to a Trannylicious party one Thursday night and was quite the wallflower. Chatted to a gorgeous girl from Vegas named Heather and had a couple words with both Giselle and Allanah. What is my point ? They are all great looking girls but I did nothing because I don't know how I would feel afterwards. I get along with Men, Women and Tranny's as friends no matter what their stated sexuality is. People are people. Would it be gay to be with a TS ? I guess thats what has stopped me. I also don't want a business transaction before sex. I'm not cheap I'm just an adult male who still believes (However Naive It Is) in romance for a GG or TS. So you called it as it is and messed with psychological state LOL !!! Now I'd like to meet you and take you out on a romantic date. Heads up though I don't think you'll get lucky LOL !! Did I add anything of value to this thread ? Probably not but these thoughts came to my mind while reading it so I spoke my mind !! Cheers All !!

Junior

[blimey7]

.,

I am not getting what you are all about??? You publish your info on eros and other sites as an escort for men!! You are the last person to talk about what is "Classy" and what isn't. You pawn yourself off as a woman but you are, indeed, exactly what you explained on your original thread- a guy with a dick and long hair( fake breasts of course).

Try not to alienate the same people your are advertising to, it is the devine law of business. Either that , or give up the gig and get off this forum and make a life outside of escorting and porno.

I enjoy looking at and meeting Tgirls because it is a fantasy of mine and many others on this site. If you have issues with that, I am sure there are other people you could be communicating with on other forums discussing other topics.

You are not attractive and have bad reviews. Congrats on being the lamest Tgirl I have ever heard of.

hate it or love it. i'm lame.....uh yeah. do like i told the other fag to do and join one of my yahoo fanclubs that combined contain over 20,000 members. i'm 1 of the most desired TS in the biz. do ya research. i think u were just pressed to get a response from me. GET YA MONEY UP BEFORE U OFFER ADVICE ABOUT BUSINESS.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/monicasfanclub
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/monicas2hot
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shemalessecret-com

[blimey7]

No, I just think it makes no sense if you advertise on your web site and eros that you will bottom or top!!! Why would you look down on the very thing that you are soliciting?? Make me understand?

So you are saying that you do not fuck guys or get fucked by guys for money? If thats the case, thats fine, but everything you put in your web site makes it seem like you do.

I really think you are not even close to being as attractive as Allhana or many of the other Tgirls on this fourm.

And whats with the gangsta thing, you are a whitey from Owings Mills!@!!

IM A PORNSTAR SO OF COURSE MY SITE EXHUDES SEX U DUMMY.

U KNOW WHAT...THIS WAS COVERED IN A PREVIOUS THREAD BUT HERE SINCE U R SOOOO DESPERATE FOR MY ATTENTION LEMME BREAK IT DOWN FOR U AGAIN. I HAVE NOT NOW NOR HAVE I EVER CLAIMED AT ANY TIME TO FUCK MY CLIENTS. I DONT FUCK CLIENTS. I DONT BOTTOM OR TOP CLIENTS. LIKE I SAID DO YA RESEARCH AND YOU WOULD'VE KNOWN THAT INSTEAD OF MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. AND WHY ARE U WORRIED ABOUT ME AND WHAT I DO ANYWAY. U DONT KNOW MY RACIAL BACKGROUND OR WHERE IM FROM. TO TOP IT OFF SAYING IM NOT ATTRACTIVE? HAHAHAHA. CMON MAN U MAKIN YASELF LOOK DUMB. SHUT UP. GO SUCK A RIGHT NUT ON A TRANSVESTITE AND MAKE THE LEFT ONE JEALOUS.

MY HAIR IS REAL, IM SMOOTH, CLEAN, PAID, WELL DRESSED N PRETTY. U MUST WANT SOMEONE FAT, HAIRY, MANLY, OR MUSCULAR.

I DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME TO CONSTANTLY EXPLAIN TO YOU AND ALL THESE OTHER FANATICS LIKE U Y I DO WHAT I DO. I KINDA JUST DO THEM. IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN MIND YOUR BUSINESS. UR LIKE MY VERY OWN TRANNY PAPARAZZI. IM HERE FOR THE ONES WHO LUV ME IF UR A HATER FUCK U. COME N GET ME. U R IRRITATING ME NOW LIKE A FLY BUZZIN IN MY EAR. GO AWAY.

[Ecstatic]

Who is Allhana? :twisted:

HE'S A MORON. SOMETIMES PEOPLE SPEAK AND THEY DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE TALKING TO OR WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

[blimey7]

This is my last conversation with your dumb ass.

WHY on your web site do you list under a question and answer format, that you are versatile and will bottom as well as top!! It is on YOUR web site. So stop lying and misrepresenting yourself.

And you are nowhere near 8 1/2" you lying dude. You are at most 7"

[blimey7]

And you are a dude, DUDE.

Your bank account shows that you are fucking for money!!

[LAtoNY]

I couldn't imagine anyone who took the time to read this thread ever having any interest in seeing . as an escort OR joining any of her sites.

... the post w/ the bank statement was so pathetic, I actually laughed out loud.

too bad some of the really goodlooking ones (like .) are so twisted :roll:

IT'S ON MY WEBSITE BECAUSE THATS THE "ABOUT ME" SECTION U IDIOT. THAT'S MY PERSONAL BIO. WHAT I DO IN MY PERSONAL LIFE IS WHAT I DO. IT ALSO CLEARLY SAYS ON MY SITE "PLEASE NOTE: I DO NOT HAVE SEX WITH MY CLIENTS. I AM PAID FOR MY TIME AND COMPANIONSHIP ONLY" U ARE A HALF ASS READER AND A COMMON NEANDERTHAL AND EVERYONE HERE SEES IT. SHUT UP N STOP MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF BECAUSE U DONT KNOW ME AND YOU NEVER WILL. I TREAT COOL FOLKS COOL AND ASSHOLES LIKE ASSHOLES. ONCE U ARE ON MY ASSHOLE LIST U ARE THERE FOR LIFE.


p.s. to the other guy. in reference to "y would anyone join monica's sites?" they will join because it's porn and u join to jerk off because my models are sexy and i'm an excellent photgrapher not because u think i won the award for happiest ass kissing personality. i do quality work and and i work hard on my sites which is something no one can discredit.

[blimey7]

So where did you make all this money? Did guys just give you money because you are so HOT ( NOT ). All of your reviews are terrible and you make guys think they have a chance when they pay you $300/hr. That is the issue. Don't lie anymore to guys that want you to escort for them.

Pastie ass, small dicked, liar.

NO LATONY U KNOW WHATS PATHETIC A BUNCH OF MEN SITTING ON A COMPUTER SPENDING ALL DAY WORRYING ABOUT ME AND WHAT I DO. GET A LIFE N MAYBE U WOULD HAVE A NICE ACCOUNT TOO. I'M DONE WITH THIS N U REALLY NEED SAY NO MORE BEFORE U R BANNED FROM THIS FORUM FOR BEING A STALKER. TRY ME. MATTER FACT LET ME HIT UP MY BABY "NYCe" (THE MODERATOR HERE) RIGHT NOW N HAVE HIM DELETE BOTH YA'LL CLOWNS. 1 MORE PEEP.

[blimey7]

Seems like you are spending as much if not more time worried about me.

I will quit since I got my point across.

[Adam_Thompson]

http://www.cuhk.edu.hk/cuecu/intro/images/piggy_bank.JPG
For all you haters, I'm gettin my cake up too. Shit holla at ya boy.


For Real though you dudes are wild as hell dawg. Why do people gotta come on here and attack on some real shit...do it in a funny way at least..shit its the fucking internet. I love Jade by the way(my Baby Mamma) but . you are pretty good looking.

when people come correct i treat them with respect. for those who are "board bashers" i shut em down every time.

muahzzzzzzzz. :)

[blimey7]

I just want to say that I love a good looking Tgirl who is easy going and likes to have fun.

I think most guys here would agree that fake thug Tgirls who are fugly and have an awful attitude are Tgirls that they would tend to stay away from. That is why I am so suprised that you guys think . is worth the time to spend time with.

All the other Tgirls here are great and have a great attitude, so don't think I am some "HATER".

If you are not from Philly, don't wear the rags.

[Adam_Thompson]

If you were directing that at me you could have said so and put my name in there..I wouldn't trip. If not its cool still

[blimey7]

Well, most of it was directed to all the guys who think . is the shit.

The Philly comment is directed at you , if that is the picture of you with the Phillies rags.

[Adam_Thompson]

Naw I'm not Cassidy...and mean you probably knew that since you are from Philly

[chefmike]

jeez...I got on this site as a relaxing diversion from work...blimey 7-right on!! and how many more fake posters and/or crack buddies, tricks, etc. is the big mouth no brains hip hop ho from the ghetto going to introduce? I can't wait to see who your next fan(?) is....didn't I see you on jerry springer, your highness? and if not, what you waitin for, dawg? signed...your #1 fan...hehe

y are u losers still in here talking about me? get a life. ATTENTION HUNG ANGEL MEMBERS... these few men are just mad because i'm not attracted to fat white hairy slobs and they know they can't have me not that ya'll already can't see that that's the case. i am nice to everyone and i dont discriminate but i can't help it i'm attracted to young thugs with sexy bodies, cute faces, big dicks and money. don't get mad at me because god made u hideous and u have to pay for sex. :lol:

ur gay ass probably wishes i would bend u over. YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ME!! EVER!! hahahahahahaha. so keep posting your crap who cares.

[Adam_Thompson]

y are u losers still in here talking about me? get a life. ATTENTION HUNG ANGEL MEMBERS... they are just mad because i'm not attracted to fat white hairy slobs and they know they can't have me not that ya'll already can't see that that's the case. i can't help it i'm attracted to young thugs with sexy bodies, cute faces, big dicks and money. don't get mad at me because god made u hideous and u have to pay for sex. :lol:

I think ya'll dreams have just been........
http://community.allhiphop.com/customavatars/avatar60854_1.gif

[Evilhomer]

i'm not attracted to fat white hairy slobs and they know they can't have me not that ya'll already can't see that that's the case.

Damn..my day is shot.... :(

but as you can see, I started working out and Im getting Jacked.

[Eman]

My take on this, gang, is this: I have to agree what .ca and Allanah said, to be classy, you have to do your best to be well-behaved, be nice to others, and hug and kiss them when they're down; however, that does not mean you have to act stuck-up, pompous, conceited, or disrespectful by all means. Sex, I have nothing against it, except for the misuse of it to harm others. This escort service you have is great, but remember, rather than having your cake and eat it too, shouldn't you trannies and guys focus more on spending quality time, performance [i.e., playful domination, roleplay, massages, and just plain comfortable hugging and kissing], and great customer service? That could be a great plus...I mean, being the open minded person that i am towards transsexuals, shouldn't you say, 'that's exactly what I'm really looking for'. Together, it's a win-win situation...think about it y'all!

Already, I'm planning to meet with an escort in the near future for the first time...and I want it to be a good experience...

Eman :wink:

[tippinnottrippin]

Yea i was going to get an escort too,but i don't like ford.

[Ecstatic]

Do they come in 31 flavors?

[tippinnottrippin]

Do they come in 31 flavors?
Nah but my hash do!
Do you like your eggs sunny side up at sun down?

[Ecstatic]

Over easy, that's my motto.

[shanghai'd]

Any discussion of classy relative to today's society should start with Mr. Class himself Karl Marx.

I think traditional perspectives on class are breaking down and therefore one's ability to be classy may reflect less on what socio-economic group they were born into or what they do for a living, but how they are and act as individuals. However, society puts enough weight on traditional class definitions for these to probably never go away entirely.

Not so long ago, the only people who could be classy were those born into it. As Karl would say "the capitalists", i.e. high society.

Interestingly, I think the originator of this post does have the traditional definition of class, at least partly.

An escort is part of the petty-bourgeoisie, someone who derives capital from their own labor. Of course, if you have a pimp, then most likely you are part of the proletariat or worker class - providing income or capital to someone else based on your labor not theirs.

A porn star who has no ownership of or profit sharing in their movies is a worker.

However, any girl who owns and manages their own websites or owns or produces their own films, and pays others to work within those entrerprises is undoubtably a capitalist - a member of the bourgeoisie.

So congratulations, as a member of the bourgeoisie you automatically have Class! However, now that you are a capitalist you have to watch out for the marxists, maoists, maybe even KimJongIlists that are out to get you.

A final thought, there were a lot of green backs in some photos earlier in this thread. My advice - plow that cash back into your businesses or diversify into a new one, expand and you will be well on your way to being an uber-capitalist (and to having a long and healthy retirement).

With best regards,

[blimey7]

I don't have to pay for sex, it is just not considered appropriate in my social circle to have a TS experience, so i have to go to an escort to fulfill my fantasy.
I haven't even done it yet, but after hearing from ., it really makes me run the other direction. If all Tgirls are just thugs looking to misrepresent what they are willing to do in order to make quick bucks, then I may never have my fantasy fulfilled.

., your small dick couldn't satisfy even a first timer like me!!

[Ecstatic]

blimey7, not all "Tgirls are just thugs looking to misrepresent what they are willing to do in order to make quick bucks": some are, some are not. Don't let the risk that you'll meet a misrepresenting thug prevent you from realizing your fantasy if your fantasy is truly important to you. There are good girls out there. I've been burnt a couple of times, but I've been fully satisfied far more often.

2 cents.

[blimey7]

Thanks Ecstatic,

Have you been with many Tgirls? Would you say most are rip offs or just a few?

Have you had two at once? :lol:

[Ecstatic]

In sexual terms, I've been with 9 or 10 Tgirls, which is a relatively small sample. Of those, I'd say 3 were ripoffs and 2 were hot and fine but didn't inspire a repeat visit. Two--Jasmin and Kyla--have inspired at least 2 sessions (and in Jasmin's case I know there's more to come--she's sweet and sexy and I know I want to see her more). And 2 have been stellar, beyond belief, the most amazing lovers worth every penny three times over: Venus and Carla. So maybe that's somewhat representative, I don't know.

I've met a great many more Tgirls in various settings that I haven't "been with" and many of them were truly nice people that I would love to know better--either socially or more intimately (not every encounter needs to be intimate).

There are many rip-offs out there, but there are many good girls and a small number of truly exceptional providers. Check the reviews at SER and you'll get a good sense of who's great, who's good, and who's to avoid.

Yeah, I had a threesome with two hot girls once. One was one of my top two amazing girls (Carla), the other was her friend Claudia. Claudia was hot and beautiful, but she was mostly a distraction during our session. Carla was incredible, as always. The best part was going down on Claudia while Carla topped me doggie style--that was some hot. Also, both of them giving me oral/manual at the end when I blew my load was really sweet. But overall, I found it overwhelming, and I prefer one-on-one.

[blimey7]

Where is Carla located?
Did it hurt the first time you were topped?

It sounds like you have had more good then bad, which is good to know.

[Ecstatic]

Carla is located in SF and advertises on Eros and her own website (www.tscarla.com); she visits LA and Santa .ca often and, up to about a year ago, used to travel frequently around the country, making it to Boston every couple of months. I love that girl and truly miss her in a big way (ok, two big ways :) )

Carla was the first Tgirl to top me, and yeah, I was very tight and the first time we tried it I couldn't take her; she's about 7.5" and thick--maybe 6" around. So I practiced on my own with ever-larger dildos until I could accept her on the next try, and aside from a little initial discomfort it didn't hurt at all, and in fact felt really, really good. I don't think I'd want to try bigger (thicker) than her, but I'm fine with her size. My ideal size is Venus: 6.5" and just thick enough, with a nice curve which makes her cock ideal for both deep throating (no gag reflex) and penetration.

I like to both top and bottom, but lately it seems that the girls I've seen have wanted to top, so that's fine with me since I love both.

Yes, I've had far more good experiences than bad; in fact, only a couple have been bad; others have been OK but just not good enough to make me go back for more. I like to get to know a girl and see her regularly, which is why for a while it was Carla and Venus; now it's looking like Venus and Jasmin for me. Things get better when you're a regular client. (Carla, come back to Boston!)

[blimey7]

Wow, Carla is a beauty and seems like a great experience. I hope she does come back to the East Coast. Let me know when she does, she may be the girl for my first time.

Does Venus have a web site?? She might have a better size cock for me.

[Ecstatic]

Venus does have a website: http://www.venusthaitgirl.com/; if you go to her gallery, the first baker's dozen photos up there are ones I took of her in Boston this past January. She is exquisite. I don't know if she ever travels down to Philly (escorting is not her only gig), but I think it would be well worth a trip up to NYC to see her.

Jasmin does visit Philly and is currently in DC, so you might want to consider her. Of course, there are so many lovely girls!

[Ecstatic]

Nope, not mine. Nice photo, though! V and I are talking about doing a new photoshoot sometime in the next few weeks, so if things go well I'll post some.

[tsarielblue]

WHY ALL THE JUDGING OF SEX WORKERS? :?

[mixedprettyboy]

Hey Ariel.

Welcome to the board.

[tsarielblue]

Hi love thanks :wink:

[tsarielblue]

:wink:

[blimey7]

Ariel,

Welcome, I was trying to get some feedback on some Tgirls from guys on the forum. I am looking for my first time experience and we were discussing who is best for first timers.

I am looking for a Tgirl who likes to top and will be patient with a complete novice.

Any advice that you can give would be greatly appreciated.