Brought on by another topic: A TS Agency

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Would anyone consider hiring chicks from a TS Agency?
I see porn stars do it all the time when they come to a major city.
I know the agency is probably making a killing$!$ but it would be safer for the girls to have some sort of screening and an idea of guaranteed clientele on their trip.

What do you think?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

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[blckhaze]

Not a horrible idea.
1) The girls get to cut out the fat, pun intended
2) Girls would probably be given a safe place to do what hey want, and not have strange guys knowing where they lived, and they most likely be in large groups.
3) Easier marketing

but i guess most girls like the independence of managing their own 100% of the time.

[GroobySteven]

Anybody running such an agency would have to have an infinite amount of patience, the ability to bullshit to customers an extraordinary amount of times about the state of the traffic/lack of taxis and be able to disappear at the drop of a hat.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
in other words, they'd have to be a politician

[GroobySteven]

I was thinking of a lawyer.

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[JANIRA]

Ive done the agency thing years ago,, and it was a rip off, as far as safety hmmmm i dunno its still risky you have to do as told , be on call whenever they say so,, so basiclly your being pimped. I never been keen on being told what to do,, or how and when to do it. And they probably making more off you than you for you. I have horror stories of t girls working for agencies , sometimes they even cal the client and ask if you tipped "The girl" and they demand cut from your tips, and also they have a driver come scoop you up and take you to all the calls, and that another thing the driver gets his cut too.... Complete and utter ripp off.. Your simply being a puppet and a token to make them money ! leave me, doing what i do now, and how i do it.

[TsJennifer]

I was with a few escort agencies in NY and saw a lot of celebrity and high end clients. The agency doesn't do much but take your money. I meet enough celbs and high end clients on my own and dont have to go 60% of what I make to anyone.

[slinky]

I think that there are an awful lot of girls (both TG and GG) who would make more money working for an agency*, but don't want to because they have a mental thing about giving any money to anyone. But in most cases, girls are not the best handlers of their own business.

* IF they can keep their shit together, which is a pretty HUGE if.

[hwbs]

i think some use it for privacy also...where they use similar pics of her on their web site...some girls probably don't want to be married to their cell phones also...obviously the porno agency is a whole different matter...

[flabbybody]

Like Jennifer says, forking over 40% to an agency makes no sense when eros, parties, and word of mouth make getting high end clients farily easy for a high quality provider.

And anytime I've seen an agency gg, she's always suggests the next encounter should be made directly with her at a substantially discounted price. How agencies don't get ripped off by girls doing privates is beyond me. So from the guys perspective, you're better off doing some basic research, and finding the girl of your dreamsl on your own.

Then there's that spread between gg vs tg escort rates. 600-800 is the norm for a traveling gg "porn star" compared to 400-500 for a comprable t. The lower scale makes the agencie biz less feasible for the t ladies.

[Shining Star]

New York City has several agencies back in the day, all run by trannies and FWIU most of the girls hated the process. As another poster stated, most madams basically were pimping girls out.

There was a TS madam named Simone who ran an agency and put her girls through stunts. Girls had to pay 40 or 50 percent (maybe more) of the date, plus pay for the car (and tip the driver), out of their date money. If the madam wanted you to detour on your way back from the date, it came out of the girl's car/taxi fare money, and yes you still had to tip the driver for taking you over to the madam's place and waiting for her to come down.

Furthermore girls had to pay for their own adverts in Screw (later Eros or Exotics), pay the photographer who took pictures, and if coming from out of town, paid weekly rent to where the madam had her girls housed. It quickly dawned on many girls they were working for the madam,and not them.

Don't forget that madams/agencies always pull bait and switch. Since they put the adverts in, and usually had the pictures in their possession not only would they run ads with a girl's picture when she was either out of town, or didn't want to work that week/month (this would be if a certian girl's advert pulled really well with clients), they would also give guys who called on one advert to another client.

As for "protection", again FWIU and heard, the trannie agencies didn't do that much in that realm either. Only thing was certain, if they sent you out on a date, and the guy wasn't there, or wouldn't pay up, they would pay you out of their pocket, and deal with the date later.

All and all many girls started going down to place their adverts themselves, and certianly after Eros and Exotics came on the scene, stopped doing the agency route.

As for high profile clients, the only thing a good agency can promise is that that a worker is properly screened,and hopefully will be the person described. High rollers and celebs have their own ways of arranging hook-ups, they don't always need an agency.

[ShadowMaster]

Like Jennifer says, forking over 40% to an agency makes no sense when eros, parties, and word of mouth make getting high end clients farily easy for a high quality provider.

And anytime I've seen an agency gg, she's always suggests the next encounter should be made directly with her at a substantially discounted price. How agencies don't get ripped off by girls doing privates is beyond me. So from the guys perspective, you're better off doing some basic research, and finding the girl of your dreamsl on your own.

Then there's that spread between gg vs tg escort rates. 600-800 is the norm for a traveling gg "porn star" compared to 400-500 for a comprable t. The lower scale makes the agencie biz less feasible for the t ladies.

Damn that's a huge pay cut. 40-60% to answer calls and drive you around? And you have to pay the driver. That's wack! All that extra money in hopes that someone will help you if the night turns sour. And they want a portion of YOUR tip, that's just grimey. Have you independent ladies ever considered working together to pay for your own screening and call center? You charge your own rates and pay a small team of receptionists to answer and forward calls to your work phone. And then you could collectively pay a monthly for some P.I. website that can give the skinny on clients. And the more independents you have on the deal, the more it drives down the cost. Just a thought.

[slinky]

eros, parties, and word of mouth make getting high end clients farily easy for a high quality provider.

You are dead wrong on this.

[slinky]

For those who've never done it (which is basically all the guys here). how many calls/emails do you think you get off of a CL ad for every customer you actually see?

[glenntinnyc]

night shift- lower rate for the agency medical dental benefits for the girls, worked for the Fonz and Beetlejuice. I wouldnt put the HQ in a morgue though

[flabbybody]

For those who've never done it (which is basically all the guys here). how many calls/emails do you think you get off of a CL ad for every customer you actually see?

with CL, the hit rate must be really low.
I'll guess: maybe 30 calls/emails will equal one real customer. but most ads specify that emails are not monitered

[slinky]

For those who've never done it (which is basically all the guys here). how many calls/emails do you think you get off of a CL ad for every customer you actually see?

with CL, the hit rate must be really low.
I'll guess: maybe 30 calls/emails will equal one real customer. but most ads specify that emails are not monitered

OK, I think you're on the low side, but let's go with that number:

so how much time and effort does it take to deal with the 29 assholes to get the one?

[flabbybody]

I'll figure it takes about 10 seconds of phone time for the girl to size up that the caller is a waste of time asshole. It's the no-shows that drive them crazy.

[BeardedOne]

The escort biz isn't the only one to play this routine and it has its rare/minimal upsides.

When I first got involved in the limousine industry, the going rate was $14 an hour (In Boston - I would guess closer to $20 in NYC) with a three hour or flat-rate minimum based on the service. At the time, gratuities were not built in, but it was generally accepted at 15% of the portal-to-portal rental cost.

Average pay scale for a chauffeur at that time was $4 an hour plus gratuity.

Comes Fugazy, in NYC. The company purchases the limousine wholesale and then sells it (A custom cut Lincoln from Lehmann-Peterson) to an in-house leasing company that then leases the vehicle to the 'owner/operator'. The O/O then contracts to Fugazy International as proprietary agent of service. O/O also contracts to FI for service, fuel, tires, etc. Fugazy provides all clients and referrals. It goes on and on, but the end result was that the 'owner/operator' neither owned nor controlled the car, ending in a contracted buy-back to the parent company at a pre-determined amount. However, while gypsies ply the airports, begging for fares and dodging the TLC, the Fugazy drivers had a steady stream of clientèle.

Yah, an agency rapes you time and time again, sans lube, but how much did you pay your last mouthpiece to spring you from the Tombs?

[slinky]

I think you're WAY WAY off on the 10 seconds.

But also, how many do you think end up as no-shows?