On voter fraud

[thx1138]

http://www.rense.com/general80/mdro.htm & http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_len_hart_080112_princeton_university.htm & http://bbvdocs.org/dean.pdf

[hippifried]

OMG!!!!
The polls were wrong, so it must be fraud & conspiracy!

Maybe we should just not bother voting. We could just let the TV pundits pick the winners because they know who we were going to vote for anyway.

[thx1138]

yes, that would save someone a lot of money. great idea.

[El Nino]

Yeah, trust the government and the whole voting process. Don't worry, its secure... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EQzlHr7gJ0

[hippifried]

So Kid,

You'd replace voting with what? C'mon spud. Let's have just one idea instead of the paranoid ramblings & links to lunatic fringe sites with more paranoid ramblings. What? All you can do is deify Ron Paul? Get in line like a sheep? No thoughts of your own? If you think there's a better way, let's hear it.

[El Nino]

No, I'm saying no more electronic voting. It contributes to the majorty of voter disenfranchisement and does it with ease!!!! Proof in the pudding. Do the research yourself, its happening at an epidemic scale. SCARY! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a8d_1194275446

There needs to be a paper trail on every fucking vote in this country, and those counting the votes need to be overseen, thats all. Its harder to erase/alter a paper cast vote

[hippifried]

Paper printouts probably wouldn't be that hard, but there's ways to break any system. There's been accusations of voter fraud for as long as there's been voting. Stuffing ballot boxes, rigging voting machines, dead people showing up on the roles, etc... All it takes is one instance panning out & then all votes that don't go the way of the accusers are fraudulant.

The insinuation here is that the diebold machines have already been compromised. So far, there's no evidence of that. The Princeton video is a what-if & it requires specialized equipment & direct unsupervised access to the machine. That's a lot of what-ifs.

[bucatini70]

attribute it to stupid people i listen to people say i changed my vote after "i saw hillary cry" "i loved obama but edwards speech was better so i changed my vote" some people are just that fickle. and El has it right it is an evil you will never eliminate let alone control.

[El Nino]

Theres actually so much evidence of Diebold tampering it is bursting from the internet's seams... look it up. Vote fraud has indeed been with us a very long time, not just accusations of it

[El Nino]

Oh yeah, there are also WAY TOO MANY borderline retards voting out there. (No offense to actual retarded individuals) brainwashed by establishment media and not intelligent enough to formulate their own ideas...
"You will vote for Hillary Clinton"- Fixed News Channel

[El Nino]

N.H. recount discrepencies
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Diebold_miscounts_reported_in_first_day_of_NH_hand _counts

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/30189

And most importantly (all the proof is here)
http://www.blackboxvoting.org

[hippifried]

Oh yeah, there are also WAY TOO MANY borderline retards voting out there. (No offense to actual retarded individuals) brainwashed by establishment media and not intelligent enough to formulate their own ideas...
Oh. Well gee whiz. So you'd do... What?

Did it ever occur to you that there's a whole lot of folks out there who would describe you exactly that same way? Deifying any politician seems a bit strange to me. So tell me again how a fixation on Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama is different than a fixation on Ron Paul. I'm thinking that most folks don't like or trust fanatics. You just might be your own worst enemy.

[El Nino]

This says it all my friend

[hippifried]

So the point of your cartoon is that everybody has business support except Ron Paul. Ok. And that lack of support makes him more qualified to be the most powerful person on the planet because ... ?

Oh wait a minute. I forgot. He has you.

Says it all.