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Willie Escalade
01-10-2008, 11:17 AM
Nice looking ride here!

From NetCarShow.com:

Hyundai aims to shatter premium automobile paradigms with the North American International Auto Show introduction of its new flagship, the all-new Hyundai Genesis sports sedan. With capabilities and features comparable to $60,000 premium sedans, Hyundai Genesis will be offered at a starting price under $30,000 when it goes on sale this summer.

Genesis is built on Hyundai's all-new, performance-driven rear-wheel-drive architecture. It offers three powertrains, including 3.3-liter and 3.8-liter V6 engines, and Hyundai's all-new 4.6-liter Tau V8. Tau will produce an estimated 368 horsepower on regular fuel, and lead all its competitors in specific output with 80 horsepower per liter. With technology rivaling more expensive luxury sedans, Hyundai Genesis showcases features such as XM NavTraffic, Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFLS), Smart Cruise Control, Lexicon® audio systems and electronic active head restraints.

"While Genesis will compete for customers with cars like Chrysler 300 and Pontiac G8, our engineering benchmarks were Mercedes E-Class, Infiniti M, and Lexus GS," said John Krafcik, vice president, product development and strategic planning, Hyundai Motor America. "Genesis provides a potent combination of performance, luxury, and value. We think it has the opportunity to be an extremely disruptive force in the large sedan and near-luxury segments." Genesis ushers in a new era for Hyundai. Its all-new rear-wheel drive architecture will spawn more products in other segments, as suggested by the Hyundai Genesis Coupe Concept shown at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2007.

NEW PERFORMANCE-DRIVEN REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE ARCHITECTURE

Hyundai Genesis is built on an all-new rear-wheel-drive architecture, its first application in a U.S. Hyundai model. Genesis boasts a near ideal 53/47 front-to-rear weight distribution for exceptional handling and more refined steering characteristics. The rear-wheel-drive layout allowed engineers to position the car's front wheels farther forward delivering outstanding handling and steering performance. Standard Electronic Stability Control (ESC), the industry's most important new safety technology, further enhances the vehicle's driving confidence. Hyundai leads all popular car brands in the standard application of ESC, with more than 70 percent of 2007 Hyundai sales featuring ESC as standard equipment.

Hyundai Genesis reduces interior noise levels and improves ride and handling with a stiffer, lighter body structure. The use of high tensile steel in critical areas in the unibody provides Genesis with 12-14 percent higher dynamic torsional rigidity and a lower body structure weight than the BMW 5-series and Mercedes-Benz E-Class - despite having a substantially larger cabin than either of those benchmarks. Hyundai Genesis has more interior volume than Mercedes Benz E-Class and BMW 7-Series.

WORLD-CLASS Tau V8

Headlining the Genesis' performance capabilities is Hyundai's all-new Tau 4.6-liter V8 engine mated to a ZF 6-speed automatic transmission with SHIFTRONIC® manual control. The Tau V8 delivers an estimated 368 horsepower to fit the demands of performance-oriented consumers. Unlike many competitors and most premium sedans, it achieves this impressive power output using regular unleaded fuel - further demonstration of Hyundai's commitment to value. This powertrain combination will launch Hyundai Genesis to 60 miles per hour in less than six seconds. The Tau produces more horsepower and torque than the powerplants found in Lexus GS450, BMW 750i, Audi A8 and Infiniti M45 and has more horsepower per liter than any of its V8 competitors. The Tau engine is built with flexibility for the future. Future Tau variants may offer larger displacement, forced induction options and other technology enhancements.

STRONG LAMBDA V6 PERFORMANCE

Hyundai Genesis also delivers spirited performance through its two V6 options -- all-aluminum 3.3-liter and 3.8-liter DOHC V6 engines that deliver an estimated 268 horsepower and 233 lb-ft. of torque and an estimated 290 horsepower and 264 lb.-ft. of torque, respectively. To maximize the power spread, the engines utilize Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT) on intake and exhaust cam shafts and a new Variable Intake System (VIS) that helps cylinders breathe efficiently at low and high RPM. The better breathing results in outstanding off-the-line acceleration and passing performance, and remarkable fuel efficiency. The V6 engines use an alloy block and cylinder heads for lighter weight and thermal efficiency, and feature timing chains with no scheduled maintenance. Even with their impressive output, all Genesis engines are also environmentally friendly, with all three achieving Ultra Low Emission Vehicle (ULEV) certification levels.

ADVANCED 6-SPEED TRANSMISSIONS

Both Genesis V6 engines use an Aisin 6-speed SHIFTRONIC automatic transmission that features an overdrive lock-up torque converter for improved highway fuel economy. The transmission offers smooth shifts and a wide spread of ratios that ideally suit both engine's characteristics including a tall-overdrive sixth gear for quiet, efficient highway cruising. Drivers can access the SHIFTRONIC® feature by moving the gear selector into a separate gate. Pushing the selector forward or pulling it rearward will shift the transmission up or down sequentially, adding to driver control. A clear LCD readout on the instrument panel shows the gear that's in use.

The Tau V8 Genesis is mated with an enhanced, high-output ZF 6-speed transmission to handle the added horsepower and torque.

INNOVATIVE AND SOPHISTICATED SPORT-TUNED SUSPENSION

Hyundai Genesis features a suspension design that is among the most sophisticated and refined anywhere, at any price. The front five-link suspension features upper and lower arms linking the front wheels to the chassis. This artfully articulated arrangement creates a virtual king pin axis that dramatically reduces unwanted kickback through the steering wheel as well as improving responsiveness. The five-link independent rear suspension is equally sophisticated, enabling precise suspension geometry for a premium ride and engaging handling prowess. The capabilities of the advanced front and rear-suspension are maximized through Amplitude Selective Dampers (ASD) allowing tuning flexibility at smaller damper displacements. The ASD suspension provides:

* Improved ride comfort with more body / wheel control
* Increase driving comfort without compromised handling
* Optimizes road surface contact
* Technology used in Lexus, BMW and Mercedes-Benz models

Genesis' design is a progressive interpretation of the modern rear-wheel drive sports sedan. To match its dynamic capabilities, Hyundai Genesis combines strong, sculpted forms which integrate precise details, natural materials and innovative lighting to provide a well-crafted, premium design aesthetic.

HIGH-TECH ACCOMMODATIONS AT ACCESSIBLE PRICE POINTS

The new 2009 Hyundai Genesis is the most advanced Hyundai ever. From its design and spaciousness to its technology and appointments, it delivers a wealth of features and performance befitting flagship European and Asian brands, but delivers them at a much more accessible price point. Starting with its Lexicon state-of-the-art audio system featuring LOGIC 7® technology, Genesis offers an extraordinary combination of technology, premium appointments, and value. Standard is a soft-touch instrument panel with woodgrain accents, Bluetooth® hands-free mobile phone interface, and USB/iPod® auxiliary inputs. A state-of-the-art navigation system with an eight-inch display is available. The navigation unit is accessed by a user-friendly multi-media controller that also controls the radio. Backing out of tight spaces and avoiding mishaps is much easier with the available backup camera that uses the eight-inch display to show the driver a clear view immediately behind the car.

A leather-wrapped dash, door panels, and console lid surround the driver in a luxurious environment, while heated and cooled driver's seat provides optimal driving comfort. An automatic windshield defogger with humidity sensor and rain-sensing wipers allow crystal clear sight lines. No other car in the segment offers an ultraviolet reflective leather steering wheel, which keeps the surface cool to the touch, even in scorching sunlight. Hyundai Genesis also offers the conveniences of power rear sunshade, automatic electronic parking brake, proximity key and push button starter.

ADVANCED LIGHTING TECHNOLOGY

The 2009 Hyundai Genesis offers Xenon high-intensity discharge (HID) headlights. The advantages of HID headlamps include greater lighting power, daylight-type lighting and reduced power consumption. In addition, the cut lines of the new HID headlights are extremely precise, providing maximum nighttime visibility without distracting other drivers. The lamps also feature an auto-leveling function which keeps the headlights level regardless of how the vehicle is loaded with passengers or cargo. Hyundai Genesis also offers an Automatic Front Lighting System that allows the headlamps to automatically swivel for better visibility when cornering.

NEW TECHNOLOGIES DELIVER IMPROVED SAFETY PERFORMANCE

Maintaining Hyundai's emphasis on delivering leading safety technology, Hyundai Genesis boasts world-class active and passive safety features to help both prevent accidents, and maximize the well being of its occupants in the event of a collision. The Genesis continues the Hyundai tradition of standardizing key life-saving safety technology such as Electronic Stability Control (ESC), eight airbags and electronic active head restraints.

Genesis' total of eight airbags include advanced dual front airbags, front and rear seat-mounted side-impact airbags, and roof-mounted side curtain airbags for both front and rear outboard seat occupants.

An electronic active head restraint system will debut on the 2009 Hyundai Genesis. Hyundai is the first popular brand to offer electronic active front head restraints, an improvement over mechanically based active head restraint systems. Until now, electronic active head restraints could only be found on select Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Lexus models. Active front head restraints have been proven by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety to help prevent whiplash.

Hyundai Genesis has a total of 8 ultrasonic sensors located on the front and rear bumpers. The sensors along with the rear backup camera help detect how close objects are when parking. Distance is indicated on the in-dash screen and accompanied by an audible warning tone.

Forward-looking radar is used in Genesis' Smart Cruise Control system. Smart Cruise Control adjusts vehicle speed to maintain distance from the vehicle ahead in the same lane.

Hyundai Genesis is brought to a halt by large four-wheel anti-lock disc brakes with Brake Assist and Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD). The 12.6-inch front rotors have single-piston floating calipers and the rear brakes feature 12.4-inch rotors with single-pistons on V6 models. Twin-pistons and larger rotors are featured on V8 models.

I'd at least give it a test drive. The Azera is a pretty nice car; I expect this to be as well.

Willie Escalade
01-10-2008, 11:19 AM
Inside...

$30,000? C'mon! :P

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
01-10-2008, 01:33 PM
dude I posted this months ago
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=20288&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=hyundai+genesis&start=70
who's going to make the leap of faith is the true question?!?

it's going to be 1/3rd of the dealership price of a Lexus LS and just as much car

Mr_Choc69
01-10-2008, 02:44 PM
Trouble is that it is still a Hyundai. But if it delivers as promised this could be an interesting venture. I can't wait to see the 3/6/9/12 month reviews.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
01-10-2008, 03:20 PM
V8, the size of an S Class for $30k?!?
regardless of it being a Hyundai it's not an '85 Hyundai, those shits will go out the door as fast as the Chrysler 300's did the 1st year

hwbs
01-10-2008, 03:40 PM
i have seen the inside of the new models...i would buy one...

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
01-10-2008, 03:57 PM
I'll wait on my Supra
which will most likely be $60k
the joke is Hyundai is also gonna have a Supra killer
same platform supposedly with a V8
whoa mama

right now though, that Z looks hella satisfying
like Jennifer Paris in that little brown dress

Anubis1079
01-10-2008, 04:14 PM
here's one of the V6 Genesis offerings...
http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/91784/Hyundai-Genesis-Concept-i001.jpg
http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/91784/Hyundai-Genesis-Concept-i002.jpg

CORVETTEDUDE
01-10-2008, 04:21 PM
Trouble is that it is still a Hyundai. But if it delivers as promised this could be an interesting venture. I can't wait to see the 3/6/9/12 month reviews.

Mr_Choc...My friend, the first part of your statement is a little off-base. As you know I'm in the bussiness, and constantly appraise vehicles for their trade value (which I will remind all of you, is a reflection of MARKET, and not what NADA , Kelly Blue Book ,or any onther source might list as Retail or Trade-In Value). The Hyundai product line, as a whole, have come way up, since there initial entry in the US Market. Of special note, the Sonata is a better car than Camry "All Day Long" and the Sante Fe and Tucson small SUVs are a great value in their highly competive market.

The fact is, while everybody was discounting the Hyundai as a viable option, they have managed to sneak up on Toyota, Honda and Mazda. They, IMO, are now a "Contender". Don't dis them if you haven't seriously driven them.

I'm a Chevy guy, died in the wool, all my life!!!

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
01-10-2008, 04:23 PM
sigh, if gas was what it was when Clinton 1 was in office, I'd be ordering a Vette right now
fuckin Bush man

Mr_Choc69
01-10-2008, 07:50 PM
Trouble is that it is still a Hyundai. But if it delivers as promised this could be an interesting venture. I can't wait to see the 3/6/9/12 month reviews.

Mr_Choc...My friend, the first part of your statement is a little off-base. As you know I'm in the bussiness, and constantly appraise vehicles for their trade value (which I will remind all of you, is a reflection of MARKET, and not what NADA , Kelly Blue Book ,or any onther source might list as Retail or Trade-In Value). The Hyundai product line, as a whole, have come way up, since there initial entry in the US Market. Of special note, the Sonata is a better car than Camry "All Day Long" and the Sante Fe and Tucson small SUVs are a great value in their highly competive market.

The fact is, while everybody was discounting the Hyundai as a viable option, they have managed to sneak up on Toyota, Honda and Mazda. They, IMO, are now a "Contender". Don't dis them if you haven't seriously driven them.

I'm a Chevy guy, died in the wool, all my life!!!

I stand by my initial comment. Those of us who eat,sleep, and dream cars know where Hyundai is now compared to the nineties. However and this is a BIG However - the general public still has a slight distaste for that auto maker.

As with any new product line I am eager to see the early/mid reviews. As was the case with the Camry (we all know how much I love Toyota) a new product can lead to some unforeseen production issues (07 V6 Camry transmission).

marissaazts
01-10-2008, 07:58 PM
because of gas and $96.00 fill ups i no longer have my lightning

CORVETTEDUDE
01-10-2008, 08:23 PM
Trouble is that it is still a Hyundai. But if it delivers as promised this could be an interesting venture. I can't wait to see the 3/6/9/12 month reviews.

Mr_Choc...My friend, the first part of your statement is a little off-base. As you know I'm in the bussiness, and constantly appraise vehicles for their trade value (which I will remind all of you, is a reflection of MARKET, and not what NADA , Kelly Blue Book ,or any onther source might list as Retail or Trade-In Value). The Hyundai product line, as a whole, have come way up, since there initial entry in the US Market. Of special note, the Sonata is a better car than Camry "All Day Long" and the Sante Fe and Tucson small SUVs are a great value in their highly competive market.

The fact is, while everybody was discounting the Hyundai as a viable option, they have managed to sneak up on Toyota, Honda and Mazda. They, IMO, are now a "Contender". Don't dis them if you haven't seriously driven them.

I'm a Chevy guy, died in the wool, all my life!!!

I stand by my initial comment. Those of us who eat,sleep, and dream cars know where Hyundai is now compared to the nineties. However and this is a BIG However - the general public still has a slight distaste for that auto maker.

As with any new product line I am eager to see the early/mid reviews. As was the case with the Camry (we all know how much I love Toyota) a new product can lead to some unforeseen production issues (07 V6 Camry transmission).

I appreciate your valid observation. It does, in fact, take a long time to change a paradigm. As is the case of "Detroit" product(specifically GM) versus "Asian" product (namely Toyota & Honda). GMs quality and reliability now matches or exceeds that of it's competitors, the facts are in, and can be read in most all the major automotive mags. Toyota actually had more recalls in 2007 than GM, across the board. Contributors to that were Camry, as you stated, and the new Tundra(heavily). What is hurting Toyota is they are trying to get too big, too fast.

I took in a 2008 Tundra Limited Crew Cab, 5.7L, 2677 miles, yesterday. The guy absolutely hated the vehicle. I asked the guy why he he bought it and, he said "I have more money than I know what to do with and just had to try it." I told him he didn't have to buy it to figure that out! He lost his ass, trading it in on a Chevy, $36,500 against the $51,800 he paid, but he didn't care.

Now listen, don't take my comments wrong. I'm not dogging Toyota, rather praising GM for getting back in the game. Toyota (and Honda) caught the "Big Three" with their corporate pants down and thay deserved what they got. GM has become a viable option, again.

ottorocket
01-10-2008, 09:08 PM
Trouble is that it is still a Hyundai. But if it delivers as promised this could be an interesting venture. I can't wait to see the 3/6/9/12 month reviews.


At one time Toyota wasn't a household name with much reputation. I remember my old Toyota liftback...was a complete POS but got great gas mileage, kinda like the how Hyundai was with their first cars... They've come a long way as of late and i wouldnt hesitate to buy one. Consumer Reports rates Hyundai Sonata very well..recommended buy

Willie Escalade
01-11-2008, 01:44 AM
dude I posted this months ago
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=20288&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=hyundai+genesis&start=70
who's going to make the leap of faith is the true question?!?

it's going to be 1/3rd of the dealership price of a Lexus LS and just as much car
I know; I just wanted to refresh everyone with official pictures of the car.

I used to own a 1989 Hyundai Excel GLS. My family bought it brand new. Didn't begin having major problems with it until around 2002. Reason? We kept up the maintenance. At one point, I was thinking about putting in a newer engine (got sick of the carburetor), but decided on getting a newer car. The dealer called me back a day later stating someone had already purchased it!

As for the Genesis, put some rims on it and place it in a music video. It would sell like hotcakes. :wink:

Ecstatic
01-11-2008, 06:21 AM
That Hyundai is a mighty fine looking ride. Remember when they first appeared, about the same time (and quality) as the Yugo? The Yugo lasted for, what, 3 years, but Hyundai have proven themselves with fine quality and engineering, and excellent marketing.

bob69
01-11-2008, 09:53 AM
A few years back I had a Hyundai as a company car. To say that I wasn't very happy with it would be an understatement. Last year, when I had to change my cars... I got Hyundai. I tried them out and at their price, they were quite competitive compared to other makes. I have been driving them for a while now and I have to say that I don't have any complaints. Nice cars for their price range.

NYTSJulie
01-11-2008, 10:08 AM
I would never drive a Hyundai, I remember when they first came out and cost the same as a Yugo. When I heard Hyundai I think of low income.