FOR DICK HUNGRY SIZES QNZ AND COCK DREAMERS LOL

[BADAZZBODY]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...

[lust4ts]

:lol:

Now that was a funny read, completely true but highly amusing none the less :D

[peggygee]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...IT MUST BE JUST NY HMMM

What she said. 8)

Always good to see and hear from
your bodacious badazz body.

[trish]

:claps

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

fuck yall, she only said that because I said what I did earlier this morning

hehe

[LTR_Seeker]

I love tits n ass the cock is just dessert i love fine ass on a women

[BADAZZBODY]

SOME OF YALL GUYS THAT FIT THE PROFILE BUT SO CALL SAY OHHHHHHHH IM STRAIGHT..

IM NOT GONNA JUDGE ..

IF THATS HOW U FELL THEN SO BE IT..BUT I STILL FELL U CAN DO THINGS TO MAKE A TS FELL LIKE A WOMEN NOT U BEING THE WOMAN ALL THE TIME... ACTING STRAIGHT IN THE STREETS BUT A BYTCH IN THE SHEETS...NOT SO BEND ME OVA AND BANG ME WITH YOUR T =COK BUT IM STRAIGHT..
THINK IMMA KEEP A BIG DICK THUG ON CALL SO WHEN THEY WANT STAMINA ILL SEE WHO ALL FALL FOR THE BAIT...LOL I BET ALL OF THEM
HAHA LET ME STOP

[BADAZZBODY]

fuck yall, she only said that because I said what I did earlier this morning

hehe

REALLY AND WHAT WAS THAT

[BADAZZBODY]

I love tits n ass the cock is just dessert i love fine ass on a women

AND U ARE THE LIMITED FEW THAT STREAM THIS SITE...AND ASS IS ASSET.. BUT THEY WANT DICKKKKK STAMINAAAA THICK CREAM LOADS AND I THINK THE TITS AND THE FACT U LOOK LIKE A WOMEN HELPS THEM GET OVA IT MORE ..THEY JUST WANT A BIG MEATY COK TO SUK AND RIDE ..U ARE THE LIMITED FEW..BACK N THE DAY IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT..SEEM LIKE NOFFIN BUT BOTTOMS ARE COMING OUT NOW ..

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

fuck yall, she only said that because I said what I did earlier this morning

hehe

REALLY AND WHAT WAS THAT

that dudes on here looking for pussy points need to shut the fuck up

;)

[JamesHunt]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...

If some of your sentences rhymed, you'd a make a good rapper :lol:

[canihavu]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...


I've been lusting after your tits and ass for years. I'd bang the shit out of you and then lick your dick just for fun... :lol:

[KiraHarden]

wrote:
WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...










I cant answer that girl. Im just as confused about this subject, and no clue where all the top masculine guys are.

[werwt22]

I don't have a better answer for you than this persons name. "Madison". PLUG PLUG PLUG LOL jk. She is a Jack-of-all-trades though. You cant go wrong....she tops, she bottoms, while I don't bottom, I do love a huge ass, huge tits, pretty face, and a big dick that shoots big loads and she has all of those plus a good head on her shoulders (not necessarily in that order). Those things aren't necessary for me but always a plus IMO and I think she's a phenomenon in that aspect. What I'm trying to say is some of us can have our cake and eat it too if your game is right =D.

[Legend]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...


Aren't you preceived by the way you carry yourself and the company you keep,come on if you advertise yourself as a hooker and you are quote hard, horney, wet, and throbbing for you what the hell do you expect,you are gonna attract the bottom of the barrell and do you honestly think those kinds of guys want to treat you like a lady.If you don't want scum wanting you just for your penis don't use it in any advertisement what so ever and them cry later on that guys only see you as a penis.If you want to be treated like a lady act like one.

[ggg321]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...

Probably the same thing that happened to people that know how to spell and speak english.

[BADAZZBODY]

LOL. I forgot that i am on hungangels, and I have to resort to typing proper english, Its cool. I see all the bottoms got offended and therefore had smart remarks, and all the tops and ts stated their thoughts or status. HOW IRONIC..

I posted this up cause I was reading alot of posts and i notice that all the guys here are mostly more submissive now then before and if u want a hard agressive top u should try a regular male..not a homone feminized ts that really a bottom in preferences

[LBCDO]

Thats what sells now I guess. I feel you, its not my thing, but to each their own. I cant see myself getting bent over, fuck that. Might as well be in the kitchen cooking, running around the house cleaning in lingerie, thats just me. No bullshitting here. Ask Chrissy and China

[Legend]

LOL. I forgot that i am on hungangels, and I have to resort to typing proper english, Its cool. I see all the bottoms got offended and therefore had smart remarks, and all the tops and ts stated their thoughts or status. HOW IRONIC..

I posted this up cause I was reading alot of posts and i notice that all the guys here are mostly more submissive now then before and if u want a hard agressive top u should try a regular male..not a homone feminized ts that really a bottom in preferences


I'm sorry but if your original thoughts came from someone like FK but you use your penis in your advertisements.If you don't want those type guys why do you advertise to attract them,if you want otherwise try acting like a lady by keeping your measurements and your sexual preference to yourself.


This is from your website:

"I weigh 140lb. And my measurements are 35dd-25-44 and I have a thick 8 & 1/2 inches below"

"I just about did it all. I top."

[BADAZZBODY]

i need to update that anyway my ass is much bigger ..i guess u are one that believe everything u read..to be honest sweetie most of my client are black men ova 25 that are top..so when i posted this i was just refering to the board and how it seem like all the maculine top tranny lover are all dissapearing and all the amirers are now mostly summissive..and want ts to be men..u see them post up bairly feminized boys club kids ..yes they are cute but they be the longest post i just think that some of yall need to man up and say fuk it i like dudes rather its tits or not..thats the point as long as u got a big dick ill fuk it and suk it basically..cause i keep on seeing yall say im straight ok fine but i dont see how thats all.. i think that alot of guys use ts as a scape goat to mask the fact they like men but dont wanna fell too gay if they deal with a guy that looks like a guy so they want a ts that look like a girl perform all male acts to ease their mental

[OEMEnemyNum1]

Total Top here, though I'm not really masculine lol. I just like to take my frustrations out on an ass or pussy or mouth, if need be.

[Christastic]

This is an interesting conflict which seems to keep popping up, but I think it all boils down to culture clash more than anything. I imagine this board attracts two groups of people; those who are transitioning from one cultural gender to the next and those who are interested in them sexually, and the second group may be largely composed of those who are riding the wave of a sexual redefinition. The first group is heavily invested in the binary model of gender and of sexuality; in fact they are defined by it. The second group, which I posit is probably younger, is part of an emerging cultural movement in which gender and sexuality are both blurred and not at all binary. I don't know how to reconcile the two or even if they can be reconciled. And I am probably biased as although I am genetically male and my cultural gender is male, I don't subscribe to binary definitions of sexuality and don't find myself attracted to only one type of gender or sex. I haven't studied this much, so maybe there is something I am completely overlooking.

[qeuqheeg222]

do you like the feel of razor stubble against your lips,whilst in a deep french kiss?

[MacShreach]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

Some of us are still here but there seems to be a rash of cockbandits just now...



IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...

Go girl. If it's any consolation I try to make life as hot as I can for the bastards but I gotta tell you it would be a full-time job dissing all the closet homos that come here and they'd still keep coming back--it's like whack-a-mole....

Great to hear one of the girls telling it like it really is, though, thanks.

[arnie666]

Why would I fuck a TS up the arse when I can fuck a GG up the arse or cunt virtually any night in the week and not pay for it?

Sometimes I like to bite the pillow and have a pretty girls big fat dick up my bottom .It's a fetish for me, being domnated by a hot girl in the most dominating way possible. And it would take a very special TS to get me to see it any other way .

[MacShreach]

do you like the feel of razor stubble against your lips,whilst in a deep french kiss?


LOL GTF :lol: :lol:

[Hector]

i need to update that anyway my ass is much bigger ..i guess u are one that believe everything u read..to be honest sweetie most of my client are black men ova 25 that are top..so when i posted this i was just refering to the board and how it seem like all the maculine top tranny lover are all dissapearing and all the amirers are now mostly summissive..and want ts to be men..u see them post up bairly feminized boys club kids ..yes they are cute but they be the longest post i just think that some of yall need to man up and say fuk it i like dudes rather its tits or not..thats the point as long as u got a big dick ill fuk it and suk it basically..cause i keep on seeing yall say im straight ok fine but i dont see how thats all.. i think that alot of guys use ts as a scape goat to mask the fact they like men but dont wanna fell too gay if they deal with a guy that looks like a guy so they want a ts that look like a girl perform all male acts to ease their mentalThe "I'm a top you're a bottom so I'm better than you" tirade is a psychological defense mechanism to make transsexuals feel better about themselves and the choices they have made in life. People always need to feel like they are better then someone else. Hence the, "Although I was born a man and have decided to transition into being a woman by getting implants, pump my butt with silicone and wear women's clothing, I'm not a fag". The men that like me are the faggiest scum of the the earth and are beneath me. It's sad, but I find this view prevalent on this site by the transsexuals. They seem to disregard the fact that if someone wanted to treat a person like a woman, it is MUCH MUCH easier if the said person was ACTUALLY a woman and NOT a transsexual.

[josue]

it seems white men are more inclined to bottom for transsexuals....

[Hector]

it seems white men are more inclined to bottom for transsexuals....Most ignorant thing I've heard today. Thanks

[MacShreach]

Most ignorant thing I've heard today. Thanks

Heh, there was me about to have a go at you for the first post then you posted that.... Which I could not have said better myself.

So, okay guys, let's get something clear. It is not about "tops" and "bottoms," it is not about "people with little dicks are this and people with big dicks are that," it is not about "masculine guys;" it is about none of that because it is not about the dick AT ALL. All that shit is just gay-male fantasy and has nothing to do with TS WOMEN.

What it's about is ALL BETWEEN HER EARS, and NOT in her drawers. I have no difficulty in treating a TS woman like a woman because that is what she IS.

There are people here who really really hate me for saying this but I will say it again anyway: there is a HUGE difference between a man, even one who dresses up in women's clothing, and a woman, even one who is transsexual.

And that's it.

[canihavu]

Interesting thread...

[Silcc69]

Well i've stated how I feel multiple times. I know what I like in a girl and if it were up to me i'd have some of these threads deleted. *cough* choke* Club Kid.

[bunzy]

There are too many faggots on this site!

[idiot savant]

I agree with you,Badass.

[thx1138]

@badazz: Supplying escort services is an economic activity and is subject to the laws of supply and demand. One of the most important rules of economics is that: MARKETS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING. Life does NOT stand still. So what that means in practical terms for you and any other provider of service is that you MUST adapt your service to the changing demand. If you don't you will lose market share to those who WILL change their service to match changing demand. The end result is you will find fewer and fewer clients leading to a big drop in your income. Change or perish. It's up to you.

[thx1138]

increase in the number of bottoms: Since I have a predilection for conspiracy theories, here's one. Fact: testosterone levels in males have been dropping markedly over the last 50 or 60 years. Medical authorities don't know why (or if they do know they're not telling). However this fall in testosterone coincides with the introduction of growth hormones in poultry and other major food sources. The long term consequences of animal growth hormones on human males is not clearly understood. Perhaps what we're seeing here with Ts escort clients IS a result of animal growth hormone. Perhaps some enterprising individual could make this his PHD thesis. I learnt this some years ago and have since stopped eating pork products. But since chemicals like this can easily spread around in the environment pork may NOT be the sole source of animal growth hormones.

[BADAZZBODY]

@badazz: Supplying escort services is an economic activity and is subject to the laws of supply and demand. One of the most important rules of economics is that: MARKETS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING. Life does NOT stand still. So what that means in practical terms for you and any other provider of service is that you MUST adapt your service to the changing demand. If you don't you will lose market share to those who WILL change their service to match changing demand. The end result is you will find fewer and fewer clients leading to a big drop in your income. Change or perish. It's up to you.

LOL I FELL U ..LIKE I SAID BEFORE IM JUST SEEING OCHANGE NOW..BUT AS FAR AS BUSINESS ..BUSINESS IS GOOD CAUSE I DO SWITCH UP AND I WILL ALWAYS FORFILL THE DESIRE CAUSE THATS WHAT IM PAID TO DO..BUT ME POSTING THIS WAS NOT IN RELATION TO MY BUSINESS ITS JUST IVE BEEN READING THE BOARD FOR A WHILE ..AND NOTICE LIKE WOW ITS MAD TOTAL BOTTOM KEEP ON SAYING IM STRAIGHT.LOL..ITS COOL JUST A LIL CONFUSING SOMETIMES..I DO VERY WELL LET ME KNOCK ON WOOD A FEW TIMES CAUSE SHIT CAN CHANGE I PROVIDE FOR WHAT ITS CALLING FOR WITH LIMITATIONS OF CLEAN AND SAFE ONLY SERVICES ..SOME CLIENTS I DONT NEED TO TAKE A PILL TO BANG THEM SOME I DO AND I CAN TELL THAT USALLY IN A DECRIPTION OF THEM RATHER OR NOT THEY WILL TURN ME ON TO TOP THEM WITH OUT A VIAGRA ..

BUT U ARE TOTALLY RIGHT I FELL U TOTALLY CAUSE U DO HAVE TO DO WHAT U HAVE TO DO WITH LIMITATIONS TO KEEP YOUR BUSINESS PROSPERING ..IM VERS SO ITS REALLY NOT THAT HARD TO DO..BUT ITS ALOT OF TOTAL BOTTOM AND TOTAL TOP GIRLS THAT DO GOOD STAYING TRUE TO THEIR PREFERENCES WHEN IT COMES TO ESCORTING TOO ...SO IT WORKS OUT ANYWAY

[ottorocket]

A good bottom t-girl is a good thing. One that uses lower caps and punctuation...priceless! :P

[DeClock]

Hey Badazzbody,
I know you do not remember me but I was with you at least three times. I must say I was surprise when I seen your picture. How have you been? Still living in queens? I remember when you was in a hotel in manhattan. For those that care this lady is the best!! Kind, nonrushing, and sweet!!

[62des]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...

I really like you. The way I see it is the one who looks like the girl should be takin the dick. You're on a roll.

[BADAZZBODY]

Hey Badazzbody,
I know you do not remember me but I was with you at least three times. I must say I was surprise when I seen your picture. How have you been? Still living in queens? I remember when you was in a hotel in manhattan. For those that care this lady is the best!! Kind, nonrushing, and sweet!!yeah im here in new york ill be here until end of day tomorrow not sure who u are but do come again for a visit..before i go home to maryland

[trish]

Well i've stated how I feel multiple times. I know what I like in a girl and if it were up to me i'd have some of these threads deleted. *cough* choke* Club Kid.

i know what i like in a guy, and it's NOT someone who's so insecure he can't stand to see even the titles of a few threads like CLUB KID or CROSS-DRESSERS or TRANSVESTITES. god forbid you might accidentally click the wrong topic and see a pic! It'd probably warp you forever!

let's just agree that everyone here has unconventional sexual interests. there's no reason to delete, censor or segregate one that differs from your own.

[BeardedOne]

A good bottom t-girl is a good thing. One that uses lower caps and punctuation...priceless! :P

Ow! That's rude. True, funny, but rude. :lol:

I haven't been paying attention, has MEGA weighed in on this? :wink:

[brickcitybrother]

Badazz:

The board tells the tale. You're not crazy, nor are you misreading the stats. It is what it is. You're taking hits because you're asking why (with a lil pepper on the question or is it rubbing salt in someone's wound).

If I was out and about - you'd be on my list because you fit what I like. Nevertheless, the board, like the site caters to the audience. The audience is folks who like TSs/TVs/CDs/Shemales/Chick with Dicks - etc. The focus is pretty much the fact that the girls have something extra. Seeing that attracts people who are into that - for the majority on the board - its the dick. So that's the focus of there attention. They want to see, talk about it, so on and so on. I know I fit a minority. Damn, when I think of it, I'm a minority of a minority of a minorty. lol Anyway, I like cruvy busty women. My freak is that its a turn-on if they have a lil something more. Its not my focus ... but like red-hair, light-brown eyes, or any other trait - it can be a turn-on.

So:

1. Keep doing you;
2. Keep it safe; and
3. Keep it real.

And for the people who don't want to man-up LOL or at least be up-front about what they like:

“To wish you were someone else is to waste the person you are.”

[Jasadin]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

A alpha guy is becoming rare due to the constant attacks they have endured ever since the feminist movement.The pressure to convert has many living in a metrosexual state of flux just to get by.Hollywood has castraited the image of the alpha by making them look like ignorrant chavanistic pigs.I mean you see the shows.They got guys walking around the mall holding the purse/shopping an Bed,Bath and Beyond.They got guys waxin their chest, drinking light beer and sipping shiraz for gods sake. :lol: jking maybe

But really all the alpha guys I know are pretty much overdosing on pussy.I know one in particular in which we talked about why he doesn't fuck with tgirls like he use to.He said that all the ones he knew where bitter from all the previous dealings that they had with trade and/or the lifestyle.So it would come across as hostility to him which was like a masculine challenge to him /a turnoff.He said that tgirls want too much and never satified.I remember one direct quote"Half these bitches lived 3 minutes as a boy,now they're all scholars on what a real man is.Fuck that!"

Looks like some alpha guys went to greener pastures?
Discuss

[drock]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...


LOL, well first off, i'm glad to see you posting on the boards a little more frequently Badazzbody. Next thing is I wasn't aware that there were so many dick starved dudes out there in the world until I started posting on here. I'm like what the fuck you can't be serious, what's up with all this I want to be a bottom crap? Now i'm pretty much a ass man and baby you got a nice back side. :)

[macfan]

Give me a lovely TS chick any day of the week in a beautiful thong, just bent over in front of me while I stroke my big, black, ehehm well you get the jist and then prepare to caress and handle her like any woman.

As for all this other guys wanting to suck and all that, hey if it's your thing then so be it. I know however that I'm dom so maybe that is why I view it differently.

[freak]

If you go as far to say all the guys that crave a Top ts should just find a man on the down low, why shouldn't all the top guys just find a real women, with tits and ass? Just think about what your saying. You will see how foolish it really is

[Silcc69]

Well i've stated how I feel multiple times. I know what I like in a girl and if it were up to me i'd have some of these threads deleted. *cough* choke* Club Kid.

i know what i like in a guy, and it's NOT someone who's so insecure he can't stand to see even the titles of a few threads like CLUB KID or CROSS-DRESSERS or TRANSVESTITES. god forbid you might accidentally click the wrong topic and see a pic! It'd probably warp you forever!

let's just agree that everyone here has unconventional sexual interests. there's no reason to delete, censor or segregate one that differs from your own.

I could care less about the sissy/amateur shit. It's not my cup of tea but I know what it's for the club thing IMO is stupid because it is taking feminine lookin guys and saying these guys would make great lookin t-girls. When it has been stated multiples times they don't want to do that. It's pointless and stupid IMO.

[Hector]

If you go as far to say all the guys that crave a Top ts should just find a man on the down low, why shouldn't all the top guys just find a real women, with tits and ass? Just think about what your saying. You will see how foolish it really isThey say it cause they have a subconscious disdain for their fetish.

[macfan]

If you go as far to say all the guys that crave a Top ts should just find a man on the down low, why shouldn't all the top guys just find a real women, with tits and ass? Just think about what your saying. You will see how foolish it really is

I guess the real answer lies in what if the woman decides to become post-op. Wonder how many guys that now crave a top would still be around. That would be the question to ask. Therein lies the issue my friend.

I know I would stay around because I'm not in it for the lady's appendage, don't get me wrong once in a while she may desire a reciprocation, so be it then. Ultimately however I imagine she would like to be treated like a woman in a relationship with a male partner in general.

[PghTGrlLvr]

Wow........ Sorry to say it folks but this is one F'd up thread.

Let's see..... a Tgirl on a site called "HUNG ANGELS" bitchin' and can't understand why a good percentage of the guys on here are interested in cock!! :screwy I really think some of you better step away from the crack pipe, it is rotting your mental capacity away.
Let me try and explain....
#1. I've pretty much been bi all my life. That being said, I've always dated GGs but have enjoyed and still do enjoy sucking a dick on occasion. Funny, you don't meet many girls with dicks!! So that being the case, a guy will go down on another guy. That doesn't mean he's "only a bottom", it simply means he "will" be one. Most guys on this site love women, and prefer to be with a woman, I hate to inform you girls (and don't want to offend any of you) but most of the guys on here have a desire to suck a dick, but they aren't physically attracted to guys. GUY'S HAVE A DICK BUT GUYS AREN'T PRETTY!!
#2. As far as anal stimulation goes, it isn't any different for guys or gals. The prostate is very inclined toward stimulation though probably more so in men. If one wants anal stimulation, your choices are somewhat limited to "real" or "artificial" phalluses primarily. A beautiful woman with a strapon is nice, but a "woman" with a real penis is much better in the "feel" department.
So......... I do believe that "most" of the men on this site in the everyday world would actually be considered tops. But if you enjoy slobbin' the knob, and the opportunity doesn't present itself very often, when these men discuss being with a Tgirl they jump right for the dick and get labelled a bottom.
I reality, if these men spent ample time with Tgirls and could get their kicks fulfilled, before you know it, the sex would become much more like "hetero" sex is. With mutual oral between the 2 people, and the TGirl would end up more the fuckee than the fucker.
This is only my opinion on the matter, though I feel it is DEFINITELY the most plausible scenario.
I mean face it, even straight guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here. Most of the guys here want you for your physical attributes, not because you are great conversationalists.

Sorry if the truth hurts but jeez........... get a clue people.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

one of the best replies I've ever read from a semi-bottom on HA...................

[Hector]

Wow........ Sorry to say it folks but this is one F'd up thread.

Let's see..... a Tgirl on a site called "HUNG ANGELS" bitchin' and can't understand why a good percentage of the guys on here are interested in cock!! :screwy I really think some of you better step away from the crack pipe, it is rotting your mental capacity away.
Let me try and explain....
#1. I've pretty much been bi all my life. That being said, I've always dated GGs but have enjoyed and still do enjoy sucking a dick on occasion. Funny, you don't meet many girls with dicks!! So that being the case, a guy will go down on another guy. That doesn't mean he's "only a bottom", it simply means he "will" be one. Most guys on this site love women, and prefer to be with a woman, I hate to inform you girls (and don't want to offend any of you) but most of the guys on here have a desire to suck a dick, but they aren't physically attracted to guys. GUY'S HAVE A DICK BUT GUYS AREN'T PRETTY!!
#2. As far as anal stimulation goes, it isn't any different for guys or gals. The prostate is very inclined toward stimulation though probably more so in men. If one wants anal stimulation, your choices are somewhat limited to "real" or "artificial" phalluses primarily. A beautiful woman with a strapon is nice, but a "woman" with a real penis is much better in the "feel" department.
So......... I do believe that "most" of the men on this site in the everyday world would actually be considered tops. But if you enjoy slobbin' the knob, and the opportunity doesn't present itself very often, when these men discuss being with a Tgirl they jump right for the dick and get labelled a bottom.
I reality, if these men spent ample time with Tgirls and could get their kicks fulfilled, before you know it, the sex would become much more like "hetero" sex is. With mutual oral between the 2 people, and the TGirl would end up more the fuckee than the fucker.
This is only my opinion on the matter, though I feel it is DEFINITELY the most plausible scenario.
I mean face it, even straight guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here. Most of the guys here want you for your physical attributes, not because you are great conversationalists.

Sorry if the truth hurts but jeez........... get a clue people.+1

[PghTGrlLvr]

Thanks JWBL and Hector.

Just callin' it likes I sees it............... :wink:

[macfan]

Wow........ Sorry to say it folks but this is one F'd up thread.

I mean face it, even straight guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here. Most of the guys here want you for your physical attributes, not because you are great conversationalists.

Sorry if the truth hurts but jeez........... get a clue people.

Which comes back to what I stated in my post above, if said physical attribute was no longer there would you be looking elsewhere therefore.

Oh and b.t.w I do agree with you that in time the relationship would evolve most likely into a more defined TG - bottom, male partner - top scenario. :)

[trish]

nicely said PghTGrlLvr. i agree with everything except,


...guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here.

i know plenty of guys who are into me for my brains...

[PghTGrlLvr]

I for one could still be friends with, hang with, have sex with (although I don't think I've even seen a man-made pussy look anywhere near what a pussy ought to look like), be bosom-buddies and life long pals with, sit around and cuddle and smooch with, and spend the rest of my life with a Tgirl (post-op).
Though I would probably first connect with a GG just because of the sheer volume of them. Though I'll bet a Tgirl would make for more fun goin' out and shootin' pool with and such. :wink:

[PghTGrlLvr]

No offense Trish............ if you were here I'd be more than willing to kiss the top of your head and then sit and discuss anything that passes across that pretty little brain of yours.
And I didn't mean you have a little brain!! :wink:

[popperluv]

Wow........ Sorry to say it folks but this is one F'd up thread.

Let's see..... a Tgirl on a site called "HUNG ANGELS" bitchin' and can't understand why a good percentage of the guys on here are interested in cock!! :screwy I really think some of you better step away from the crack pipe, it is rotting your mental capacity away.
Let me try and explain....
#1. I've pretty much been bi all my life. That being said, I've always dated GGs but have enjoyed and still do enjoy sucking a dick on occasion. Funny, you don't meet many girls with dicks!! So that being the case, a guy will go down on another guy. That doesn't mean he's "only a bottom", it simply means he "will" be one. Most guys on this site love women, and prefer to be with a woman, I hate to inform you girls (and don't want to offend any of you) but most of the guys on here have a desire to suck a dick, but they aren't physically attracted to guys. GUY'S HAVE A DICK BUT GUYS AREN'T PRETTY!!
#2. As far as anal stimulation goes, it isn't any different for guys or gals. The prostate is very inclined toward stimulation though probably more so in men. If one wants anal stimulation, your choices are somewhat limited to "real" or "artificial" phalluses primarily. A beautiful woman with a strapon is nice, but a "woman" with a real penis is much better in the "feel" department.
So......... I do believe that "most" of the men on this site in the everyday world would actually be considered tops. But if you enjoy slobbin' the knob, and the opportunity doesn't present itself very often, when these men discuss being with a Tgirl they jump right for the dick and get labelled a bottom.
I reality, if these men spent ample time with Tgirls and could get their kicks fulfilled, before you know it, the sex would become much more like "hetero" sex is. With mutual oral between the 2 people, and the TGirl would end up more the fuckee than the fucker.
This is only my opinion on the matter, though I feel it is DEFINITELY the most plausible scenario.
I mean face it, even straight guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here. Most of the guys here want you for your physical attributes, not because you are great conversationalists.

Sorry if the truth hurts but jeez........... get a clue people.

Well SAID!!!!
Thank You

[blckhaze]

Wow........ Sorry to say it folks but this is one F'd up thread.

Let's see..... a Tgirl on a site called "HUNG ANGELS" bitchin' and can't understand why a good percentage of the guys on here are interested in cock!! :screwy I really think some of you better step away from the crack pipe, it is rotting your mental capacity away.
Let me try and explain....
#1. I've pretty much been bi all my life. That being said, I've always dated GGs but have enjoyed and still do enjoy sucking a dick on occasion. Funny, you don't meet many girls with dicks!! So that being the case, a guy will go down on another guy. That doesn't mean he's "only a bottom", it simply means he "will" be one. Most guys on this site love women, and prefer to be with a woman, I hate to inform you girls (and don't want to offend any of you) but most of the guys on here have a desire to suck a dick, but they aren't physically attracted to guys. GUY'S HAVE A DICK BUT GUYS AREN'T PRETTY!!
#2. As far as anal stimulation goes, it isn't any different for guys or gals. The prostate is very inclined toward stimulation though probably more so in men. If one wants anal stimulation, your choices are somewhat limited to "real" or "artificial" phalluses primarily. A beautiful woman with a strapon is nice, but a "woman" with a real penis is much better in the "feel" department.
So......... I do believe that "most" of the men on this site in the everyday world would actually be considered tops. But if you enjoy slobbin' the knob, and the opportunity doesn't present itself very often, when these men discuss being with a Tgirl they jump right for the dick and get labelled a bottom.
I reality, if these men spent ample time with Tgirls and could get their kicks fulfilled, before you know it, the sex would become much more like "hetero" sex is. With mutual oral between the 2 people, and the TGirl would end up more the fuckee than the fucker.
This is only my opinion on the matter, though I feel it is DEFINITELY the most plausible scenario.
I mean face it, even straight guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here. Most of the guys here want you for your physical attributes, not because you are great conversationalists.

Sorry if the truth hurts but jeez........... get a clue people.

quality post.

[hwbs]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...



i am guessing the only way this topic came about is that u thought u found the perfect guy and found out that he just wants your cock ?

[Kualitee]

I have come out of hibernation 2 say HOT DAMN.... PghTGrlLvr, "I felt u found my letters & read each 1 out loud. The comment was on point.

[manny]

Yo,

The more womanly the better. Every time I hook up with a chick I hope there is a surprise.

When there is I don't treat her any different. She might even think that I didn't notice.

[BXCanada]

Wow........ Sorry to say it folks but this is one F'd up thread.

Let's see..... a Tgirl on a site called "HUNG ANGELS" bitchin' and can't understand why a good percentage of the guys on here are interested in cock!! :screwy I really think some of you better step away from the crack pipe, it is rotting your mental capacity away.
Let me try and explain....
#1. I've pretty much been bi all my life. That being said, I've always dated GGs but have enjoyed and still do enjoy sucking a dick on occasion. Funny, you don't meet many girls with dicks!! So that being the case, a guy will go down on another guy. That doesn't mean he's "only a bottom", it simply means he "will" be one. Most guys on this site love women, and prefer to be with a woman, I hate to inform you girls (and don't want to offend any of you) but most of the guys on here have a desire to suck a dick, but they aren't physically attracted to guys. GUY'S HAVE A DICK BUT GUYS AREN'T PRETTY!!
#2. As far as anal stimulation goes, it isn't any different for guys or gals. The prostate is very inclined toward stimulation though probably more so in men. If one wants anal stimulation, your choices are somewhat limited to "real" or "artificial" phalluses primarily. A beautiful woman with a strapon is nice, but a "woman" with a real penis is much better in the "feel" department.
So......... I do believe that "most" of the men on this site in the everyday world would actually be considered tops. But if you enjoy slobbin' the knob, and the opportunity doesn't present itself very often, when these men discuss being with a Tgirl they jump right for the dick and get labelled a bottom.
I reality, if these men spent ample time with Tgirls and could get their kicks fulfilled, before you know it, the sex would become much more like "hetero" sex is. With mutual oral between the 2 people, and the TGirl would end up more the fuckee than the fucker.
This is only my opinion on the matter, though I feel it is DEFINITELY the most plausible scenario.
I mean face it, even straight guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here. Most of the guys here want you for your physical attributes, not because you are great conversationalists.

Sorry if the truth hurts but jeez........... get a clue people.

quoted for truth.

i have a very beautiful and lovely woman that i will be getting married to in June she has been a TS for about 7 years fulltime takes hormones and is both a top and a bottom and loves the fact that i am as well.

i have NEVER treated her as anything less than a woman even when i whent to visit her. when we where out for a walk we stopped at a shop to get some water because it was very hot and the guy at the stand took a second look and said to her he thought she was a woman. i said to her that she was the most beautiful woman i had ever known and gave her a kiss right there.

i ALWAYS treated her like a lady and i would never treat her as anything less than that.

so even though it may be true that alot of TG like to be bottoms but not ALL of them are like that. in any lifestyle gay, straight, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual there are bottoms and tops and some like me and my woman are both.

[canihavu]

Wow........ Sorry to say it folks but this is one F'd up thread.

Let's see..... a Tgirl on a site called "HUNG ANGELS" bitchin' and can't understand why a good percentage of the guys on here are interested in cock!! :screwy I really think some of you better step away from the crack pipe, it is rotting your mental capacity away.
Let me try and explain....
#1. I've pretty much been bi all my life. That being said, I've always dated GGs but have enjoyed and still do enjoy sucking a dick on occasion. Funny, you don't meet many girls with dicks!! So that being the case, a guy will go down on another guy. That doesn't mean he's "only a bottom", it simply means he "will" be one. Most guys on this site love women, and prefer to be with a woman, I hate to inform you girls (and don't want to offend any of you) but most of the guys on here have a desire to suck a dick, but they aren't physically attracted to guys. GUY'S HAVE A DICK BUT GUYS AREN'T PRETTY!!
#2. As far as anal stimulation goes, it isn't any different for guys or gals. The prostate is very inclined toward stimulation though probably more so in men. If one wants anal stimulation, your choices are somewhat limited to "real" or "artificial" phalluses primarily. A beautiful woman with a strapon is nice, but a "woman" with a real penis is much better in the "feel" department.
So......... I do believe that "most" of the men on this site in the everyday world would actually be considered tops. But if you enjoy slobbin' the knob, and the opportunity doesn't present itself very often, when these men discuss being with a Tgirl they jump right for the dick and get labelled a bottom.
I reality, if these men spent ample time with Tgirls and could get their kicks fulfilled, before you know it, the sex would become much more like "hetero" sex is. With mutual oral between the 2 people, and the TGirl would end up more the fuckee than the fucker.
This is only my opinion on the matter, though I feel it is DEFINITELY the most plausible scenario.
I mean face it, even straight guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here. Most of the guys here want you for your physical attributes, not because you are great conversationalists.

Sorry if the truth hurts but jeez........... get a clue people.

quoted for truth.

i have a very beautiful and lovely woman that i will be getting married to in June she has been a TS for about 7 years fulltime takes hormones and is both a top and a bottom and loves the fact that i am as well.

i have NEVER treated her as anything less than a woman even when i whent to visit her. when we where out for a walk we stopped at a shop to get some water because it was very hot and the guy at the stand took a second look and said to her he thought she was a woman. i said to her that she was the most beautiful woman i had ever known and gave her a kiss right there.

i ALWAYS treated her like a lady and i would never treat her as anything less than that.

so even though it may be true that alot of TG like to be bottoms but not ALL of them are like that. in any lifestyle gay, straight, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual there are bottoms and tops and some like me and my woman are both.

You're a lucky man...

[BADAZZBODY]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...



i am guessing the only way this topic came about is that u thought u found the perfect guy and found out that he just wants your cock ?

that wasnt y i posted this ..but that has came about alot of times..and its funny when u see some guy pull out a mazzive dik and they sexy and u thinking like mmmmmm imma bout to get a good fuk and some dollars..and he want some dikkkkk...damn damn damn..

so then u take out all your frustration cause u aint get no dick and fuk his brains out till he nut all ova his self and sit thier curled up in extacy and relief drinched n his own cream.. damn big dick bottoms all that dick gone to waste they deserve to get their back blown out..lol

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Silcc69]

I'd blow ur back out!

[BADAZZBODY]

I'd blow ur back out! :D

[hwbs]

well if the dude is real hung he prob doesn't pay 4 ass... he is paying 4 the other service he prob can't get on his own.....guys just need to do better research...girls advertise this to get guys to call...then dont want to follow through...just because the girl is hung doesn't mean she wants to top.

[BADAZZBODY]

well if the dude is real hung he prob doesn't pay 4 ass... he is paying 4 the other service he prob can't get on his own.....guys just need to do better research...girls advertise this to get guys to call...then dont want to follow through...just because the girl is hung doesn't mean she wants to top.

probably doesnt have to pay for ass cause true some girls will want it..but whos t say he want to fuk someone he know he can just fuk..he might just want to fuk someone totally different and where im from guys with big dicks and looks pay for what they want not because they can get it for free....yes false advertisment is wack...

[2pert4ya]

i never paid for it and i fucked a lot of girls yes im one of them tall light skin i guess pretty boy chris brown lookin cats that know how to fuck good. real talk i been in like the other room before when business was being taken care of in the other room but ms badd ass body i would do all type of nasty shit to you you look good as hell if you in detroit get at me. but i dont fuck with dudes at all just ts's and gg's thats it guys i cant be attracted to someone that looks just like me

[jamesedwards]

Shit Badass I love tits and ass, thighs, and your cock. I been hollering at you for a while, you in Queens right? lol I got both ways, hey when people ask me am I straight I say , " I AM A DIRTY NASTY FREAK NASTY MOTHA FUCKA" LOL that shuts them up. I love the nasty shit. Badass you so fine I will suck your ass hole stick my dick in it pull out and suck it again. You wanna get dicked down like a TsLady so be it, I got both ways, balance baby it's all about balance and when you want and have that urge you need to use your pussy stick on me fuck that we going to do the motha fucking dam thing! I will suck your toes, asshole, tits, sac, elbows, lips, neck, fingers, knees, thighs, I will put my mouf all over you Badass, and show you who the real BADASS MOTHA FUCKA IS lol Muahhhhhhhhhh on your pussy stick

[laoda8]

PghTGrlLvr made this thread his the moment I saw the post. Some here aren't even being reasonable with their superiority/inferiority complex. Some are just praising hallelujah to get Pussy points as HBS said (sounds like some sort of trading company)

[laoda8]

PghTGrlLvr made this thread his the moment I saw the post. Some here aren't even being reasonable with their superiority/inferiority complex. Some are just praising hallelujah to get Pussy points as JWB said (sounds like some sort of trading company)

[Insertclichehere]

Quality thread.

I will say that I dated a few girls casually that did some escort work and they always wanted to fuck me.

Or at the club, I will go in there and if I get hit on by a girl (whom isn't charging a fee) she will, half of the time, want to fuck me.

At first I resisted but eventually I said to hell with it and gave in. I figure it's like taking out the trash or doing the dishes. Let's take turns. : )

[Idle_Mick]

Thank you PghTGrlLvr

[redtiger]

:popcorn

[bat1]

I think TS porn makes it that way!

you see TS's topping guys and seems like the new TS's are getting
bigger cock size..

So what's a guy to think?


sex is getting so confusing these days :roll:

[desolationangel]

Personally, if I were in a real relationship with a t-girl, I would want to be the man and I'd want my woman to be the woman. I have no desire to be topped or dominated by a t-girl or anything like that. I am pretty old-fashioned when it comes to gender roles in a relationship and in the bedroom.

[Daponster]

Maybe i get lynched for this but....

If the men is the men and the tgirl the women, what's the case?

I mean, there's a lot more natural girls in the world to do that, dating a tgirl is more about the kinkiness and the adaptability of all.

[ARMANIXXX]

Can't we finally put this to rest already?


Have your fuckin fantasies as you see fit and tell whomever says otherwise to shut the fuck up.


Period.

[Maximus25]

I most certainly agree with the first post. To be honest with our little community, I became attracted to ts when I hit puberty. My attraction to tg women was no different from gg. In fact, to me TG women were no differnt from GG but only added to the spice of life. I have been with TS women in the past and to me they are WOMEN. Their penises is what makes them sexually attractive but as a 22 y/o they're no different from any other girl. Like most girls they want to chill and have fun but in my experience they are women who want to be treated liked ladies. Now I know some guys are interested in bottoming in and we should not chastise them. However, what happen to the guys on this board who thought TG were chicks but SLIGHTLY different. I hope one day to have a TS gf but I go to a small conservative school which makes it difficult. I challenge any guy here to show their pics of what they look like. Here are mine from facebook:

[ARMANIXXX]

Once again......

There's 2 sides of this,

There's the PAY side,

Then there's the FREE side.


Most of you get the 2 mixed up.


I reiterate,

Have your fuckin fantasies

everyone else......... shut up.

[mrironknee]

Pghtgrlvr put it nicely. If a "straight" guy wants to fuck a hot ass, why would he pick you?
You wanted to attract hot straight guys so you became a TS.
Unfortunately, it may have worked out better for you to stay a gay male.


i am guessing the only way this topic came about is that u thought u found the perfect guy and found out that he just wants your cock ?[/quote]

that wasnt y i posted this ..but that has came about alot of times..and its funny when u see some guy pull out a mazzive dik and they sexy and u thinking like mmmmmm imma bout to get a good fuk and some dollars..and he want some dikkkkk...damn damn damn..

so then u take out all your frustration cause u aint get no dick and fuk his brains out till he nut all ova his self and sit thier curled up in extacy and relief drinched n his own cream.. damn big dick bottoms all that dick gone to waste they deserve to get their back blown out..lol[/quote]

[trinity_x2]

Why would I fuck a TS up the arse when I can fuck a GG up the arse or cunt virtually any night in the week and not pay for it?

Sometimes I like to bite the pillow and have a pretty girls big fat dick up my bottom .It's a fetish for me, being domnated by a hot girl in the most dominating way possible. And it would take a very special TS to get me to see it any other way .


My sentiments exactly !!

[milehightslove]

i need to update that anyway my ass is much bigger ..i guess u are one that believe everything u read..to be honest sweetie most of my client are black men ova 25 that are top..so when i posted this i was just refering to the board and how it seem like all the maculine top tranny lover are all dissapearing and all the amirers are now mostly summissive..and want ts to be men..u see them post up bairly feminized boys club kids ..yes they are cute but they be the longest post i just think that some of yall need to man up and say fuk it i like dudes rather its tits or not..thats the point as long as u got a big dick ill fuk it and suk it basically..cause i keep on seeing yall say im straight ok fine but i dont see how thats all.. i think that alot of guys use ts as a scape goat to mask the fact they like men but dont wanna fell too gay if they deal with a guy that looks like a guy so they want a ts that look like a girl perform all male acts to ease their mental
I'll admit it Badazz, I think you are right, I do feel comfortable when I'm sucking a tgirls cock because I can squeeze her tits. When I suck a man, I want his ass behind a gloryhole booth so I can just focus on that dick. If you come to my town, I'll bend over for you, top my little ass.

[heizatt]

First Post, Long-Time Lurker:

I have a point of view that I believe exists but is under represented. I have never defined my sexuality as hetro or homo. I have been married and I have been in a relationship with a man. I don't define my manhood by who I have sex with or what we do. So the excuse "I do this 'cause I'm not gay, but like dick" doesn't apply to me.

That being said, I have never been completely satisified by a man or woman. My sexual orientation is something in between. I am a top only. No inning my out. Never tried it, never will, however I love a good cock.My real sexual orientation is towards pre op girls.

Therein lies the rub. I have always felt that the majority of girls are looking to change completely. We are talking gender identification after all. I know sexuality is a spectrum and all, but aren't I, on a base level, attracted to her for a reason she wants to change? If so, how can we build a fullfilling relationship?

I have never used the services of a pro, 'cause sex for me doesn't work if were just bumpin' uglies. I need some sort of connection besides money. Late night druken bar lust at least, but a purely commercial transaction loses it for me.

So here I sit, never having had a completely sexually fullfilling reltionship. My sex life has been like two great tastes that can never be brought together. I feel bound to wander back and forth, calling myself bi and never really feeling at home.

So ladies, I know you deal with a world of crap I never will have to but just remember that a lot of us guys are just tryin to find our way too. And if you know any good hearted ladies in South Florida, send 'em my way.

Sorry bout the length,

Heizatt

[Alyssa87]

lol mami. Its so true.
But if they’re paying that coin… have that cock hard and ready to plunge.

When they leave, you can call your girlfriend and let her know what a thirsty bottom you just had, and you can kiki off him.

[beandip]

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: Reply with quote
i need to update that anyway my ass is much bigger ..i guess u are one that believe everything u read..to be honest sweetie most of my client are black men ova 25 that are top..so when i posted this i was just refering to the board and how it seem like all the maculine top tranny lover are all dissapearing and all the amirers are now mostly summissive..and want ts to be men..u see them post up bairly feminized boys club kids ..yes they are cute but they be the longest post i just think that some of yall need to man up and say fuk it i like dudes rather its tits or not..thats the point as long as u got a big dick ill fuk it and suk it basically..cause i keep on seeing yall say im straight ok fine but i dont see how thats all.. i think that alot of guys use ts as a scape goat to mask the fact they like men but dont wanna fell too gay if they deal with a guy that looks like a guy so they want a ts that look like a girl perform all male acts to ease their mental
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Orrrrrr, just a thought, Maybe, just maybe you can't /shouldn't think that just because You like the direction YOU have chosen.....coming closer and closer to a "woman"....MAYBE there are some dudes who like shades of gray.

I'm ok with TG's who are NOT 100% clones of GG's....like don't fuck up your body for ME.....ok?

Do it because it's what YOU want...not what your tricks demand / prefer / require.

Spend a little time considering that sexuality is not black / white / on / off...then get over it.

Maybe some dudes like T's that are transitioning? Who knows? >>>>>THIS is NOT directed towards YOU personally...BUT Not every dude "prefers" an ass with it's own zip code. Not every dude needs some weird looking banana lips from surgery. Not every dude likes two cantelope / orbs sticking out 7 inches from a persons chest. Is THAT "feminine"?

Some guys like the appearance of a bit of feminization through h'mones.....and that's it. It's all shades of gray.

...and apparently that drives SOME T's up a fucking tree.

So be it, there's an ass for every seat.

Stop worrying about what OTHERS prefer....

I kinda like the gray area. It's less stereotypical and a bit more interesting. For me the "PLAYBOY BUNNY" look is boring. Totally. A degree of ambiguity is more interesting in my book. I kinda like the somewhat angular look of someones face like say....Hillary Swank. But hey.... go ahead and flame away. I have no problem treating a tg how ever she wants to be treated....more than likely that's with a degree of common respect.


anyway...my fucking rant is over....

[beandip]

First Post, Long-Time Lurker:

I have a point of view that I believe exists but is under represented. I have never defined my sexuality as hetro or homo. My sexual orientation is something in between. I am a top only. No inning my out. Never tried it, never will, however I love a good cock. My real sexual orientation is towards pre op girls.

Therein lies the rub. I have always felt that the majority of girls are looking to change completely. We are talking gender identification after all. I know sexuality is a spectrum and all, but aren't I, on a base level, attracted to her for a reason she wants to change? If so, how can we build a fullfilling relationship?

Heizatt


You make entirely too much sense. What the hell are you even doing here. (just kidding)

[beandip]

do you like the feel of razor stubble against your lips,whilst in a deep french kiss?

That would be a no. Thankfully there are remedies for that situation.

[beandip]

Well i've stated how I feel multiple times. I know what I like in a girl and if it were up to me i'd have some of these threads deleted. *cough* choke* Club Kid.

i know what i like in a guy, and it's NOT someone who's so insecure he can't stand to see even the titles of a few threads like CLUB KID or CROSS-DRESSERS or TRANSVESTITES. god forbid you might accidentally click the wrong topic and see a pic! It'd probably warp you forever!

let's just agree that everyone here has unconventional sexual interests. there's no reason to delete, censor or segregate one that differs from your own.

Word.

[beandip]

If you go as far to say all the guys that crave a Top ts should just find a man on the down low, why shouldn't all the top guys just find a real women, with tits and ass? Just think about what your saying. You will see how foolish it really is


That is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking true.....LOL

[beandip]

Wow........ Sorry to say it folks but this is one F'd up thread.

Let's see..... a Tgirl on a site called "HUNG ANGELS" bitchin' and can't understand why a good percentage of the guys on here are interested in cock!! :screwy I really think some of you better step away from the crack pipe, it is rotting your mental capacity away.
Let me try and explain....
#1. I've pretty much been bi all my life. That being said, I've always dated GGs but have enjoyed and still do enjoy sucking a dick on occasion. Funny, you don't meet many girls with dicks!! So that being the case, a guy will go down on another guy. That doesn't mean he's "only a bottom", it simply means he "will" be one. Most guys on this site love women, and prefer to be with a woman, I hate to inform you girls (and don't want to offend any of you) but most of the guys on here have a desire to suck a dick, but they aren't physically attracted to guys. GUY'S HAVE A DICK BUT GUYS AREN'T PRETTY!!
#2. As far as anal stimulation goes, it isn't any different for guys or gals. The prostate is very inclined toward stimulation though probably more so in men. If one wants anal stimulation, your choices are somewhat limited to "real" or "artificial" phalluses primarily. A beautiful woman with a strapon is nice, but a "woman" with a real penis is much better in the "feel" department.
So......... I do believe that "most" of the men on this site in the everyday world would actually be considered tops. But if you enjoy slobbin' the knob, and the opportunity doesn't present itself very often, when these men discuss being with a Tgirl they jump right for the dick and get labelled a bottom.
I reality, if these men spent ample time with Tgirls and could get their kicks fulfilled, before you know it, the sex would become much more like "hetero" sex is. With mutual oral between the 2 people, and the TGirl would end up more the fuckee than the fucker.
This is only my opinion on the matter, though I feel it is DEFINITELY the most plausible scenario.
I mean face it, even straight guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here. Most of the guys here want you for your physical attributes, not because you are great conversationalists.

Sorry if the truth hurts but jeez........... get a clue people.

Great post. You nailed it....much to the consternation of MOST tgirls.....LOL.

Oh well, it sucks being them...heheheheh (there's a joke in there somewhere).

[jasonsteele]

WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...
if thats the logic you got then if these guys want a real women then why wouldnt they just go with a real women!! face reality.

[RubyTS]

Wow........ Sorry to say it folks but this is one F'd up thread.

Let's see..... a Tgirl on a site called "HUNG ANGELS" bitchin' and can't understand why a good percentage of the guys on here are interested in cock!! :screwy I really think some of you better step away from the crack pipe, it is rotting your mental capacity away.
Let me try and explain....
#1. I've pretty much been bi all my life. That being said, I've always dated GGs but have enjoyed and still do enjoy sucking a dick on occasion. Funny, you don't meet many girls with dicks!! So that being the case, a guy will go down on another guy. That doesn't mean he's "only a bottom", it simply means he "will" be one. Most guys on this site love women, and prefer to be with a woman, I hate to inform you girls (and don't want to offend any of you) but most of the guys on here have a desire to suck a dick, but they aren't physically attracted to guys. GUY'S HAVE A DICK BUT GUYS AREN'T PRETTY!!
#2. As far as anal stimulation goes, it isn't any different for guys or gals. The prostate is very inclined toward stimulation though probably more so in men. If one wants anal stimulation, your choices are somewhat limited to "real" or "artificial" phalluses primarily. A beautiful woman with a strapon is nice, but a "woman" with a real penis is much better in the "feel" department.
So......... I do believe that "most" of the men on this site in the everyday world would actually be considered tops. But if you enjoy slobbin' the knob, and the opportunity doesn't present itself very often, when these men discuss being with a Tgirl they jump right for the dick and get labelled a bottom.
I reality, if these men spent ample time with Tgirls and could get their kicks fulfilled, before you know it, the sex would become much more like "hetero" sex is. With mutual oral between the 2 people, and the TGirl would end up more the fuckee than the fucker.
This is only my opinion on the matter, though I feel it is DEFINITELY the most plausible scenario.
I mean face it, even straight guys aren't primarily with girls for their brains. The same applies here. Most of the guys here want you for your physical attributes, not because you are great conversationalists.

Sorry if the truth hurts but jeez........... get a clue people.


WHAT HAS REALLY HAPPEN TO THE REAL ALPHA MALE...SEEM LIKE NOW ALL THESE GUYS WANT TO BE THE WOMAN AND TS BE THE MAN LOL

IF U WANT HARD THROBING COK THICK WHITE LOADS.. LOTS OF STAMINA GO GOT SOME A REGULAR DUDE ..HOW U EXPECT A TS TO REMAIN LOOKING LIKE A WOMAN, AND SHE PROFORMING LIKE A MALE NOT TAKING HOMONES TO SATISFY YOUR DESIRE FOR A WHITE LOAD AND .. A FULLY ERECT PENIS...I THINK MOST OF OUR JOURNEY IS TO BE AS WOMANLY AS POSSIBLE ..BUT WITH SO MANY GUYS WANTING DICK FROM GIRLS NOW AND NOT ASS AND TITS...YALL SURE MAKE IT HARD..HAHA.. I THINK SOME NEED TO JUST FIND A HOT GUY ON THE LOW TO GET YA COK URGES OUT CAUSE TS ARE NOT MEN ..WE ARE LADIES WITH A LIL BIT EXTRA AND MOST OF US DONT PREFER TO BE GETTING HEAD/ FUKING BUTT AND STROKING OFF ALL..ON OCCASION YES..DAMN COCK DREAMERS ...WHERE DID THEY COME FROM ...

FIRST off. WORK BITCH!! u ATE IT
Second, u both make very VALID points.
PghTGrlLvr WOW what a post! u hit the nail on the head! (Minus the crack pipe comment which was an obvious indication of defensiveness, and i believe everyone can agree to disagree without negative cooments.

I need to address the fact that i have seen the term "real women" thrown around loosely on here, which would imply that a ts is nothing more than a fake woman. I prefer to use the term GG or biological female instead.

With that being sdaid, i also see that u guys are on the same topic but two different branches! i totally understand what badazz is talking about. I do believe that there are a lot of guys that sleep with ts women as a a way to explore homosexual tendencies without being labeled as a homosexual. I also know that there are a lot of guys who view the cock as something "extra" and genuinely consider themselves str8 and would never mess with or be attracted to "men"

You're both absolutely on point! But i think badass is referring to the more extreme guys. I dont understand it either. Its one thing to want to please your partner. its another thing to beg for a hot creamy load in ur ass!

i myself am a born bottom. i top for my clients and sometimes on rare occasion i top outside of business. Thats only because i have to remain off hormones to keep a stiff one for the cock hounds, and therefore my sex drive is that of a genetic male right now, so i get real horny! TS women have to take hormones to retain a feminine physique. Im naturally toned and i hate it, but when i take hormones, people complain about flacid pe pe! (lol) So if im off hormones and my body has reverted and my cock is hard am i still even a ts?

Whats funnier is that in some posts on here u see guys posting pics of their favorite hotties and so on, and a lot of the times they are ugly ass muscular big jawed square hairlined flat chested (sometimes they have tits) boys with long hair and big cocks and guys r drooling like omg shes so hawtt! I don't see a she....

[Alyssa87]

^there goes ruby giving it too much thought again^
:p

just whip it out and get it hard, ho!
or GTFO

[RubyTS]

what can i say im very analytical. love u long time!!!!

[MacShreach]

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Beandip: Sun May 31, 2009 10:24 pm

Don't you love it when new folks arrive and start the exhumations?

[999]

Fascinating that the original post / complaint is underwritten by hotlinks to hot sexy women with hard-ons.

Bobs-Tgirls - Tranny Surprise - Hot Wendy Williams - Jennifer Paris - Shemale Strokers - TS Vo D' Balm - TS Foxxy

Girls with boners are sexy. Whining is not.

[Silcc69]

Hey Ruby let me ask you are more of you clients bottoms?

[RubyTS]

Hey Ruby let me ask you are more of you clients bottoms?

yes now. before i made a gr8 living as bottom only. too many bottom clients forced me to switch it up. surprisingly a lot of non-clients are also switching to the recieving end, even young urban boys are looking to get it

[Silcc69]

LMAO maybe it's a region thing eh?

[RubyTS]

LMAO maybe it's a region thing eh?

could be. i do notice in diff locations its different. ny is full of bottoms. boston too. ive noticed more tops in miami orlando and providence. hartford and philly are kinda half and half

[Mr_Choc69]

what can i say im very analytical. love u long time!!!!


LOL

[bunzy]

:(

[Marilyn]

@badazz: Supplying escort services is an economic activity and is subject to the laws of supply and demand. One of the most important rules of economics is that: MARKETS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING. Life does NOT stand still. So what that means in practical terms for you and any other provider of service is that you MUST adapt your service to the changing demand. If you don't you will lose market share to those who WILL change their service to match changing demand. The end result is you will find fewer and fewer clients leading to a big drop in your income. Change or perish. It's up to you.

I felt as if I was sitting in class when I read this reply! :lol: :D But I agree with these statements!

[whatugotiwant]

alyssa u are the best man I cant agree more...do whatever man just ,,,,,ok we need to play lets get hard and do it..just do it