To the Moderators.

[alphanumeric]

You guys are supposidly reading everything posted. I hope so. I've just finished going through several threads. and there Night Rider and Hondarobot are continuosly hijack thread after useless thread, with their pointless and pendantic bickering.

But to Be honest I don't care about that.

What I care about is when good people like PeggyGee and TS jaime are viciously and Immorally attacked. these two people have been nothing but gracious and kind to everyone here. So when I read the garbage that posted towards them it pisses me off!

You guys say "freedom of Speech! Freedom of speech!" But that doesn't cut it. Freedom of speech won't let you in the real world yell "FIRE" in a crowded theatre, "freedom of speech" won't ket you stand on a street corner and preach hatred.As moderators you have a goddamn DUTY to the people of this forum!

Because a land with no laws isn't utopia, it's anarchy.

Now you can say whatever you want, and do whatever you want. I don't visit any of the pay sites you folks offer nor do I intend to either. So I'm not making you any money.

Hell go ahead and tell me to shut the fuck up for all I care. But consider this,

Jaime doesn't want to seem to be here, and I'm sure alot of the girls feel the same way too. I don't know how many girls or guys have come to you about this problem but alot of people are fed up with it.

I am too.

people have disagreement is fine...

hell people having arguments is fine too...

But some line either in the real world or on line you just don't cross.

And as far as I'm concerned that line has been crossed way to many times.

Now I'm not going to get melodramatic here and say that I'll never be back.

But I think I am going to go away for a little while, and maybe I'll check in later and see if you decided to do something about it.

I really hope you do.

This used to be a fun place.

Hell everyone please post on this subject tell the mods how you feel tell em' you agree, or tell em' you think they should ban ME and tell me to shut the fuck up, but please DO POST!

Thank-you for your time.

Todd

[MrsKellyPierce]

I'm sure Jamie and Peggy are both thick skinned and hardly care what they have to say. Lordy people know what this forum is like, stop complaining about it.

[Night Rider]

oh dear God, when did I "attack" Jamie or peggygee? I have never had any problems with peggygee other than one slight disagreement. Jamie I'd never a problem with either until she tried to intimidate me, which backfired. Until you know what you're talking about I'd suggest you stfu Todd.

It's assholes like you that try and make these issues your business, in some pathetic attempt to get a few cyber-hugs, that get on my fucking nerves. Have you ever heard of a PM? Ass kisser No.1.

[Night Rider]

provide links of these viscious and immoral attacks...

[Night Rider]

I'm sure Jamie and Peggy are both thick skinned and hardly care what they have to say. Lordy people know what this forum is like, stop complaining about it.

Atta girl Kelly. 8)

I never said anything to peggy! And Jamie started this with me and also called me a "little piss ant" for no reason.

This place is intense sometimes, I might get a set of tits to start getting some respect.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I don't care what goes on, if she feels you wronged her, why can't you just apologize. Be a man, and not a little boy.

And argue with the guys, rather than the girls.

[Night Rider]

I don't care what goes on, if she feels you wronged her, why can't you just apologize. Be a man, and not a little boy.

And argue with the guys, rather than the girls.

Did I start the thread NO

I may be stubborn, but when I'm wrong I own up. If you can't see that this isn't to do with her feeling embarrassed about coming here to promote, then you need help.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Who cares if she is here to promote? You make a mountain out of a mole hill sometimes.

[Night Rider]

Who cares if she is here to promote? You make a mountain out of a mole hill sometimes.

exactly.

why make a thread about it then?

[peggygee]

You guys are supposidly reading everything posted. I hope so. I've just finished going through several threads. and there Night Rider and Hondarobot are continuosly hijack thread after useless thread, with their pointless and pendantic bickering.

But to Be honest I don't care about that.

What I care about is when good people like PeggyGee and TS jaime are viciously and Immorally attacked. these two people have been nothing but gracious and kind to everyone here. So when I read the garbage that posted towards them it pisses me off!

You guys say "freedom of Speech! Freedom of speech!" But that doesn't cut it. Freedom of speech won't let you in the real world yell "FIRE" in a crowded theatre, "freedom of speech" won't ket you stand on a street corner and preach hatred.As moderators you have a goddamn DUTY to the people of this forum!

Because a land with no laws isn't utopia, it's anarchy.

Now you can say whatever you want, and do whatever you want. I don't visit any of the pay sites you folks offer nor do I intend to either. So I'm not making you any money.

Hell go ahead and tell me to shut the fuck up for all I care. But consider this,

Jaime doesn't want to seem to be here, and I'm sure alot of the girls feel the same way too. I don't know how many girls or guys have come to you about this problem but alot of people are fed up with it.

I am too.

people have disagreement is fine...

hell people having arguments is fine too...

But some line either in the real world or on line you just don't cross.

And as far as I'm concerned that line has been crossed way to many times.

Now I'm not going to get melodramatic here and say that I'll never be back.

But I think I am going to go away for a little while, and maybe I'll check in later and see if you decided to do something about it.

I really hope you do.

This used to be a fun place.

Hell everyone please post on this subject tell the mods how you feel tell em' you agree, or tell em' you think they should ban ME and tell me to shut the fuck up, but please DO POST!

Thank-you for your time.

Todd

First, to the mods that must referee and regulate this cyber-slugfest my
heart truly goes out to you, I mean that sincerely.

I have the freedom to not have to click on flame threads with people
saying horrid things, that have to hurt at some level.

There are threads and to some extent posters that I will avoid like the
plague.

But then again I am sure there are many that avoid my longwinded posts
as well. :oops:

And yes I am fairly thick - skinned, but at times it does trouble my spirit
the harsh things that people routinely hurl at one another, and it does
come from both genders.

At times I'll do a time out, come back in a few days, sometimes a few
weeks.

People come, people go, some come back.

In my heart of hearts, or if I can make the request, it would be that we
could be more civil to one another.

Peg....

[MrsKellyPierce]

Why do people make half the threads they do? Boredom.

[Night Rider]

Peggy have I ever viciously attacked you? You're the person I repect the most here and I'm not just bullshitting.


These argument with other posters stem from other arguments I have. I've called for peace but most of them are too immature to even accept that.

[trish]

You're the person I repect the most here and I'm not just bullshitting.

YOU FUCKING TWO TIMING SON OF A BITCH I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONE YOU RESPECTED THE MOST!!!! :) :)

(just joking...peggygee got all my respect as well)

[Night Rider]

You're the person I repect the most here and I'm not just bullshitting.

YOU FUCKING TWO TIMING SON OF A BITCH I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONE YOU RESPECTED THE MOST!!!! :) :)

(just joking...peggygee got all my respect as well)

LOL

You're a close second Trish :)

[Quinn]

You guys are supposidly reading everything posted. I hope so. I've just finished going through several threads. and there Night Rider and Hondarobot are continuosly hijack thread after useless thread, with their pointless and pendantic bickering.

pe·dan·tic (p-dntk)
adj.
Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book learning and formal rules: a pedantic attention to details.

[TJ347]

I don't care what goes on, if she feels you wronged her, why can't you just apologize. Be a man, and not a little boy.

And argue with the guys, rather than the girls.

Puh-leeze! "If she feels you wronged her, why can't you just apologize?" Uh... how about because he doesn't feel he wronged her? If you still think he ought to apologize nonetheless, then I expect you to apologize to me for all the times you wronged me here and in chat, Kelly. Hell, if we're going to go on an apology spree, there's a whole bunch of people I'll be expecting apologies from, come to think of it. Dumbest thing I've heard in the last week, no doubt. As if apologizing for things you haven't done makes you a "man, and not a little boy"... You're a woman; what the hell do you know about what makes a man a man anyway?

As far as limiting arguments to the guys rather than the girls, again... puh-leeze! It's not as if guys go around starting trouble without provocation, my dear Ms. Shore. You yourself nearly provoke me on a daily basis, but I do try not to take the bait as often as I once did. No, if some of you women didn't say some of the most re-fucking-diculous stuff imaginable, you'd never have a guy say one word you didn't like, but that's clearly asking too much of some of you, and so you're definitely asking too much of some of us. You want respect? Give it. Until then, you get what you give, period.

Thank you.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Oh shut up you old battle axe

[TJ347]

Oh shut up you old battle axe

And just like that, I'm silenced by yet another eloquent rebuttal. Then you wonder why people don't take you seriously when you're being serious... :roll:

[NYCe]

Now you can say whatever you want, and do whatever you want. I don't visit any of the pay sites you folks offer nor do I intend to either. So I'm not making you any money.


As moderators you have a goddamn DUTY to the people of this forum!


People such as yourself are 100 times worse for this site than ANYONE you mentioned. :?

[justatransgirl]

Oh what fun, guess I've been posting on the other thread.

If anyone's interested, so I don't have to re-write it, please read my last post over there, I think it's on page 4. Sheesh 4 pages and two threads in 24 hours. Is that a record?

And I'm taking time to post here because it's pouring rain outside, so if anyone wanted to "shoot it out in the street" tonight at the bar we'll have to do it next week, cause I'm like a cat and I hate getting wet, so I'm staying home to have sex with Jessica. Eat your hearts out. :-)

As I think Kelly or someone said, I do have fairly thick skin and I can usually sling it harder than I receive. But that doesn't mean that ugly comments don't hurt. I'm a girl, a big strong girl, but sometimes I cry too.

I appreciate the support of those on here who have spoken up. Thank you all.

I think the point to be learned is we can have lively discussion without abusing people. And we should try to respect topics and not start flame wars. It's one thing to go off topic for a few posts - but something entirely different to turn a respectful and hopefully helpful topic into a personal flame war.

I think yes, that this site could benefit from tighter moderation. And that such moderation could simply be a PM or post to an offender if it's an occasional mistake. If it becomes a regular thing, they get a day or two's "time out." Third banned for a month, Fourth banned permenantly.

Everyone has the occasional faux pas (did I spell that right) and says something without thinking. They shouldn't be banned over an occasional dumb comment, just corrected. (My correcting people rather directly is what started this whole mess - for which I sincerely apologise to the site.) The problem arises when the same person constantly does it to the point of disruption and to where it hurts the site by making people not want to come here, and that's bad for business, everybodies business. And I'm not singling anyone out, there's plenty of "blame" to go around.

So this is my last comment on this topic (I hope) and I hope the mods do take note, because this site is withouth a doubt the most fun place to be on the interent straight, gay or trans. Let's not lose it by alienating people.

Hugs and giggles,
TS Jamie :-)

[TrueBeauty TS]

Oh what fun, guess I've been posting on the other thread.

If anyone's interested, so I don't have to re-write it, please read my last post over there, I think it's on page 4. Sheesh 4 pages and two threads in 24 hours. Is that a record?

And I'm taking time to post here because it's pouring rain outside, so if anyone wanted to "shoot it out in the street" tonight at the bar we'll have to do it next week, cause I'm like a cat and I hate getting wet, so I'm staying home to have sex with Jessica. Eat your hearts out. :-)

As I think Kelly or someone said, I do have fairly thick skin and I can usually sling it harder than I receive. But that doesn't mean that ugly comments don't hurt. I'm a girl, a big strong girl, but sometimes I cry too.

I appreciate the support of those on here who have spoken up. Thank you all.

I think the point to be learned is we can have lively discussion without abusing people. And we should try to respect topics and not start flame wars. It's one thing to go off topic for a few posts - but something entirely different to turn a respectful and hopefully helpful topic into a personal flame war.

I think yes, that this site could benefit from tighter moderation. And that such moderation could simply be a PM or post to an offender if it's an occasional mistake. If it becomes a regular thing, they get a day or two's "time out." Third banned for a month, Fourth banned permenantly.

Everyone has the occasional faux pas (did I spell that right) and says something without thinking. They shouldn't be banned over an occasional dumb comment, just corrected. (My correcting people rather directly is what started this whole mess - for which I sincerely apologise to the site.) The problem arises when the same person constantly does it to the point of disruption and to where it hurts the site by making people not want to come here, and that's bad for business, everybodies business. And I'm not singling anyone out, there's plenty of "blame" to go around.

So this is my last comment on this topic (I hope) and I hope the mods do take note, because this site is withouth a doubt the most fun place to be on the interent straight, gay or trans. Let's not lose it by alienating people.

Hugs and giggles,
TS Jamie :-)



Guess what? You're not the first person and you won't be the last person that sings this same old song.

Here's a clue for you. I call it HA 101. It's not going to change. Girls will come & go. Flame wars will happen. Some people will leave and never come back. Some will storm out and show up again. New people will come in here and take their place. Mods will watch it all happen while eating popcorn. People will cry about the double standards and inconsistentsies everywhere....

But it will always be the same old HA.

Once you realize that, it gets easier here. LOL I learned a long time ago not to put too much into this board, or ask too much of it. Sure, I'll still flame it out with people now & then, but I don't expect anyone to come to my rescue. If anyone does, that's a happy surprise. As for validation or any deep thoughts, I go elsewhere.

Hustle your business, but don't expect any change here or you will just get upset.

Carry on.... (giggle)


:lol:


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[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Now you can say whatever you want, and do whatever you want. I don't visit any of the pay sites you folks offer nor do I intend to either. So I'm not making you any money.


As moderators you have a goddamn DUTY to the people of this forum!


People such as yourself are 100 times worse for this site than ANYONE you mentioned. :?

if I might add to this.................................

Let me get this straight. On top of the OTHER tons of shit that we have to do we're expected to regulate the personal feelings of people that reside on this board?!? You have got to be kidding me. 1st off (and if this offends some of you I am sorry but it's the truth) this whole community is based on shadiness to begin with. You have the [girls] talking about each other behind each others backs 90% of the time then when they feel like they will be shut out of something blaming it on a guy to so-called bond their faux friendships. On top of that you have a bunch of guys that get (for the most part) crappy interpretations of whatever kind of transsexual fantasy they had because the chick they saw on a particular day was either on some drug or off some hormone and gave them hell. So what do the guys do? They come on here, and they vent to release some of that stress, and guess what?????????????????? It works.

As said the folks like you that come on this board trying to tell others how folks should act are the worst. If HA loses 10% of it's members because they don't like the things said by someone that works for me because I'd rather be stuck with 90% who stay and have a strong mind than those 10% who feel guilty and want 'daddy' to come rescue them by deleting a membership or a thread.

So to recap:
broads treating other broads like crap
dudes getting ripped off from crappy escort dates
and wimps trying to get pussy points by telling the mods how to run a forum

What's truly sad is that this isn't the only forum that has shit like this. I'm on 4 others, the joke is unlike mods on other forums, we let you crybabies stay................

JWBL™

[lust4ts]

Now you can say whatever you want, and do whatever you want. I don't visit any of the pay sites you folks offer nor do I intend to either. So I'm not making you any money.


As moderators you have a goddamn DUTY to the people of this forum!


People such as yourself are 100 times worse for this site than ANYONE you mentioned. :?

if I might add to this.................................

Let me get this straight. On top of the OTHER tons of shit that we have to do we're expected to regulate the personal feelings of people that reside on this board?!? You have got to be kidding me. 1st off (and if this offends some of you I am sorry but it's the truth) this whole community is based on shadiness to begin with. You have the [girls] talking about each other behind each others backs 90% of the time then when they feel like they will be shut out of something blaming it on a guy to so-called bond their faux friendships. On top of that you have a bunch of guys that get (for the most part) crappy interpretations of whatever kind of transsexual fantasy they had because the chick they saw on a particular day was either on some drug or off some hormone and gave them hell. So what do the guys do? They come on here, and they vent to release some of that stress, and guess what?????????????????? It works.

As said the folks like you that come on this board trying to tell others how folks should act are the worst. If HA loses 10% of it's members because they don't like the things said by someone that works for me because I'd rather be stuck with 90% who stay and have a strong mind than those 10% who feel guilty and want 'daddy' to come rescue them by deleting a membership or a thread.

So to recap:
broads treating other broads like crap
dudes getting ripped off from crappy escort dates
and wimps trying to get pussy points by telling the mods how to run a forum

What's truly sad is that this isn't the only forum that has shit like this. I'm on 4 others, the joke is unlike mods on other forums, we let you crybabies stay................

JWBL™

That's not only the funniest but the truest thread I have read in my whole year here, yeah there are double standards here, that work both ways and there always will be.

But for fuck sake, running to mods about people is a pretty pussy thing to do, by anyones standards!

As JWBL points out, stop being a....................

[Dina Delicious]

just regulate my long legs and my juices that flow for u
lol love u alll

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

just regulate my long legs and my juices that flow for u
lol love u alll

juices?????????

[Dina Delicious]

lol yes im juicy lol
u know

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

juicy and deep.............................................. ..............................................in thought, gotta love it

[hwbs]

tig ol bitties , lmao.....



its a thankless job what can i say....

[Dina Delicious]

well ill thank u
xo
Dina

[hwbs]

hmmm i think i will share with u my bottle of chassagne montrachet...never too early for some good french wine :)

[thx1138]

@HWBS...hmmm, have you guys gone mellow yellow? Just out of curiosity we know what won't get one banned. What is it that will? As for Peggy & Jaime, as relative intellectual giants they should never be deliberately flamed or otherwise upset. Disagreements, if any, should be handled in an adult like manner (if that's possible).

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

that's directed at you woods, I'll refrain from commenting

[hwbs]

everyone thinks they can do a better job...when girls said we want to be mods we called their bluff and offered..u know what happened ? they turned it down...u guys don't know how good u have it...there is a forum u post on and if u comment on stuff u bought other from affiliates the post gets deleted and if u do it enough u get banned..


lately i don't see anyone that cares about real issues..i see a bunch of fucking babies that just live to flame or are fucking pussies and create new names and have 1000 posts by midnight bumping their other screen names thread...when i see a topic that goes from 1 page to 30 in a matter of an hour i just leave it be..


i will be busy getting that ass u covet while u duke it out in cyberspace ...what is almost as worse is the blatant ass kissers who are chap sticked from head to toe ..the same ones who claim to never hire an escort but have the whole eros guide in their pda with pictures and phone numbers and email addresses..

the same guys who say i am only top..but goes to girl number 2 to get their ass dug out..so if that is mellow yellow maybe u should ask me how i really feel about this place lately.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

i will be busy getting that ass u covet while u duke it out in cyberspace ...what is almost as worse is the blatant ass kissers who are chap sticked from head to toe ..the same ones who claim to never hire an escort but have the whole eros guide in their pda with pictures and phone numbers and email addresses..

the same guys who say i am only top..but goes to girl number 2 to get their ass dug out..

that's definitely a sig if i ever saw one

[tsntx]

i will be busy getting that ass u covet while u duke it out in cyberspace ...what is almost as worse is the blatant ass kissers who are chap sticked from head to toe ..the same ones who claim to never hire an escort but have the whole eros guide in their pda with pictures and phone numbers and email addresses..

the same guys who say i am only top..but goes to girl number 2 to get their ass dug out..

that's definitely a sig if i ever saw one


yeah... mine :D

[Night Rider]

@HWBS...hmmm, have you guys gone mellow yellow? Just out of curiosity we know what won't get one banned. What is it that will? As for Peggy & Jaime, as relative intellectual giants they should never be deliberately flamed or otherwise upset. Disagreements, if any, should be handled in an adult like manner (if that's possible).

quote me ever saying anything to peggy, I don't know where this peggygee shit has came from, but it's not true. If you're just going by that asshole Todds original post then you're a fucking asshole. Now there'll be people think I've attacked peggy which is pure and utter bullshit.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Here's a message to ONE mod. Log out of the goddamn chat room when you're busy performing spider monkey on some undeserving slut and you're not around.

actually I was out when i left my name in fight club............
I wasn't performing the technique but I was reminded of your ass when this near 6 footer hispanic cd drunkenly walked up to me at the bar I was in and mentioned how she wanted to take me home, tie me up, and have her way with me.......................

ugh, glad I have remote start on the car

[NYCe]

And SMH at the original posters join date.

:SMH

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

5 fuckin days before my bday
wtf?!?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lol, ummmmmmmmmmmm no dear
Roosevelt Ave. Queens to be specific, I wouldn't drive your Geo Metro and park it in Washington Heights, seriously

[Night Rider]

I drive a pink Ford Fiesta. ;)

business must be good then :lol:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I drive a pink Ford Fiesta. ;)

business must be good then :lol:

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

you got owned ND

oh yeah to the OP, make this your avatar buddy
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/didgeridoo12uk/LOLLLOL.jpg

you can remove it when you stop crying like a lil bitch

[suckseed]

Okay, this thread is derailed anyway. Last night a gay guy I work with told a group of us that he estimates that he's been with over 400 people sexually. One of the girls worked it out to about 3 a month since he started having sex. I'm at around three dozen give or take a memory chip...and an old girlfriend recently told me that I was number two out of a total of three for her.
Is anyone besides me kind of amazed at that figure?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

http://www.aptowicz.com/Shut_up_bitch.JPG

[suckseed]

Awww shit I ruined the flow

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

damnit SS
lol, if your initials weren't the same as my Xmas present to myself I'd send ND over to have her way with you

[suckseed]

You bought a vintage camero Johnny?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

You bought a vintage camero Johnny?My guess is it's a Monte Carlo.

you will pay

[trannybanger]

i was thinking, it would be great if the mods could regulate people using curse words as well. kind of makes this place not so classy at times.

[Night Rider]

i was thinking, it would be great if the mods could regulate people using curse words as well. kind of makes this place not so classy at times.

yeah because transsexual porn forums should ooze class...good idea, lets all cut the swearing out because trannybanger says so :grouphug

classy name by the way

[alphanumeric]

Okay, I see where I stand here on the issue, and thats fine.

first though I would like to apolizie to Night Rider at no time did he attack peggygee I should have been more clear on that I was referring to others that have posted not the nicest comments to her.

but at least you people were TALKING about the problem.

and there is one here.

Flamewars are pointless and hijack way to many threads around here.

as for any form of civility here forget it.

that more that anything else gets me.

instead of instead of telling someone to "shut the fuck up" all you could say is that you disagree with that person and then ignore them from then on.

and the moderators could to a better job than they are now. I stand by that anarchy statement I made.

I come here to have fun, as I'm sure most people do, I just wish for some the "fun" wasn't hundred page flamewars.

and as a side note I have recieved exactly ONE e-mail supporting my stance so that tells me something else to. :lol:

anyways this is Todd, Shutting the fuck up...

[MrsKellyPierce]

I agree with What True Beauty said!

[Jericho]

.

<--------

That's cruel! :lol:

[Night Rider]

.

<--------

That's cruel! :lol:

big time :!: :cry

[CORVETTEDUDE]

AND NOW....BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PROGRAMMING!!!

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

anyways this is Todd, Shutting the fuck up...

good boy

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/338500/338850TACy_w.jpg

[MacShreach]

and the moderators could to a better job than they are now. .

Aye right, Mr joined-two-months-ago. Set up your own forum if you don't like the way this one's modded. I'm sure it'll be very popular.

[trannybanger]

i was thinking, it would be great if the mods could regulate people using curse words as well. kind of makes this place not so classy at times.

yeah because transsexual porn forums should ooze class...good idea, lets all cut the swearing out because trannybanger says so :grouphug

classy name by the way

by the way, it was sarcasm you moron

[Night Rider]

i was thinking, it would be great if the mods could regulate people using curse words as well. kind of makes this place not so classy at times.

yeah because transsexual porn forums should ooze class...good idea, lets all cut the swearing out because trannybanger says so :grouphug

classy name by the way

by the way, it was sarcasm you moron

my bad, so was mine :lol:

[peggygee]

Okay, I see where I stand here on the issue, and thats fine.

first though I would like to apolizie to Night Rider at no time did he attack peggygee I should have been more clear on that I was referring to others that have posted not the nicest comments to her.

but at least you people were TALKING about the problem.

and there is one here.

Flamewars are pointless and hijack way to many threads around here.

as for any form of civility here forget it.

that more that anything else gets me.

instead of instead of telling someone to "shut the fuck up" all you could say is that you disagree with that person and then ignore them from then on.

and the moderators could to a better job than they are now. I stand by that anarchy statement I made.

I come here to have fun, as I'm sure most people do, I just wish for some the "fun" wasn't hundred page flamewars.

and as a side note I have recieved exactly ONE e-mail supporting my stance so that tells me something else to. :lol:

anyways this is Todd, Shutting the fuck up...

I'm just now returning to this thread, as I was fearful that it may have
devolved into a flame war

Todd, I would like to thank you for noble and gallant concern for my
welfare, as well as attempting to promote civility on the forum.

As I mentioned upthread sometimes when people disagree on the Internet
they do so in a rude and crude manner.

Because we may be miles away from one another, and may never meet
does not mean that we shouldn't attempt to be more cordial to one
another.

Again, thank you.

Peg....