Do you ever?

[MrsKellyPierce]

Feel remorse or worry about your wife, kids, and/or girlfriend, when you rent out escorts? For the men that are married? If you don't can you explain why, I'm just wondering. I personally don't agree with it. Girls can get on this too, do you take married customers? Do you ever feel guilty? I'm just curious. lol Thought it's a topic that hasn't been talked about.

[MonsieurValentine]

don't you evuh!

[MrsKellyPierce]

don't you evuh! :lol: I'm curious! I'm not gonna attack anyone.

[Skipped]

Never done it. Not married anymore so.. I guess I would have felt remorse.

[Quinn]

I'm married and in a relationship that permits me to see other people, but I don't use the services of escorts, so I can't be of much help with this one.

-Quinn

[KiraHarden]

I dont I'm not the one who took the vows...

www.myspace.com/kiraharden
www.youtube.com/kiraharden

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Don't have a wife(fired three of them), don't have kids, and don't/won't hire escorts. Get lonely? Yes, at times, but I like me. I don't need a temporary fantasy...I desire long term companionship. If it happens, it happens...if it doesn't...FRIG-A-DIGGIT!!(Richard Pryor)

[MrsKellyPierce]

I dont I'm not the one who took the vows... so it never enters your mind?

[thx1138]

I regret nothing. No one has ever suffered physically, mentally , emotionally, financially. So there's nothing to feel guilty about. Guilt feelings are a weakness and only the strong survive.

[Night Rider]

I do feel remorse but I sort of look at it like it's swinging solo!

I suppose it is wrong, but life's too short not to have fun...

[MrsKellyPierce]

I guess I look at it differently. I look at it as a persons or people's lives if there are kids that are involved. You could be bringing home a disease to your wife and children. NOT JUST the aids virus.

I also see it as being weak not in the least bit strong. If you were strong you'd be honest with her, instead of going behind her back. You could be ruining her whole life, and how she views relationships.

I guess I look at it as a whole and not just the 5 minutes of pleasure.

[Night Rider]

I guess I look at it differently. I look at it as a persons or people's lives if there are kids that are involved. You could be bringing home a disease to your wife and children. NOT JUST the aids virus.

I also see it as being weak not in the least bit strong. If you were strong you'd be honest with her, instead of going behind her back. You could be ruining her whole life, and how she views relationships.

I guess I look at it as a whole and not just the 5 minutes of pleasure.

I agree with you, but I'm not married and I'm still young so I've plenty of time to settle down. Over here it's not that big of a deal to cheat on your partner, as bad as that may sound. With marrage though it's a different story. I never cheat on my gf apart from seeing the very occasional ts escort. But I do think it is disrespectful to do it behind her back, but I'm not sure it's something I'd suggest telling her.

..and don't assume I can only last for 5 mins of pleasure lol.

[KiraHarden]

I dont I'm not the one who took the vows... so it never enters your mind?
Of course they are dirt bags, and im glad they are not my husband. What bothers me is how the wife or gf goes after the girl and not the cheat

[MrsKellyPierce]

I guess I look at it differently. I look at it as a persons or people's lives if there are kids that are involved. You could be bringing home a disease to your wife and children. NOT JUST the aids virus.

I also see it as being weak not in the least bit strong. If you were strong you'd be honest with her, instead of going behind her back. You could be ruining her whole life, and how she views relationships.

I guess I look at it as a whole and not just the 5 minutes of pleasure.

I agree with you, but I'm not married and I'm still young so I've plenty of time to settle down. Over here it's not that big of a deal to cheat on your partner, as bad as that may sound. With marrage though it's a different story. I never cheat on my gf apart from seeing the very occasional ts escort. But I do think it is disrespectful to do it behind her back, but I'm not sure it's something I'd suggest telling her.

..and don't assume I can only last for 5 mins of pleasure lol. It was just a saying the "5 minutes" I don't understand why people cheat. Why can't you just be honest and say look I'm not happy with our sexlives fully I need a little bit of kink or something extra. I don't get the whole chasing the white picket fence and mini van. I agree with that life is short, you should do what makes you happy, open and honestly. Then maybe you'd find the person you are actually meant to be with and that you can be open with. Like Quinn has obviously found.

[Night Rider]

It was just a saying the "5 minutes" I don't understand why people cheat. Why can't you just be honest and say look I'm not happy with our sexlives fully I need a little bit of kink or something extra. I don't get the whole chasing the white picket fence and mini van. I agree with that life is short, you should do what makes you happy, open and honestly. Then maybe you'd find the person you are actually meant to be with and that you can be open with. Like Quinn has obviously found.

It's not that she's shit in bed, it's just because I love tgirls so much, that I can't resist every now and then. I'd never cheat on her with a gg, not that that makes things right.

I don't plan on being a cheat all my life, but more people do it than you'd think.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I dont I'm not the one who took the vows... so it never enters your mind?
Of course they are dirt bags, and im glad they are not my husband. What bothers me is how the wife or gf goes after the girl and not the cheat Omg I so agree with that last sentiment, beat the man down not the girl! And stop taking his lousy ass back woman! LORDY.

Nightrider thats your choice, I just don't agree with it. :D

[thx1138]

No one knows but me and the young lady I was with. And by now she probably wouldn't recognize me anyway. She has surely forgotten me. No disease was brought home and my children were all over 18 y.o.. So tell me: who suffered? I still live with my wife. For all I know she has had affairs too. If she has I don't want to know about it. Peace and tranquility have been preserved. There is no unpleasant emotional baggage.

[MrsKellyPierce]

No one knows but me and the young lady I was with. And by now she probably wouldn't recognize me anyway. She has surely forgotten me. No disease was brought home and my children were all over 18 y.o.. So tell me: who suffered? I still live with my wife. For all I know she has had affairs too. If she has I don't want to know about it. Peace and tranquility have been preserved. There is no unpleasant emotional baggage. so you are saying you just done this one time?

[thx1138]

JJ: yes, once. Very unlikely to be repeated.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I dont I'm not the one who took the vows... so it never enters your mind?
Of course they are dirt bags, and im glad they are not my husband. What bothers me is how the wife or gf goes after the girl and not the cheat

I agree! That makes the guy a complete ass, for disrespecting his family and his obligation to them. It also makes her blatantly stupid, for blaming the escort, instead of him, as well as continuing to keep him, instead of kickin' his ass out the door. As Forest Gump said "Stupid is, as stupid does!"

[blckhaze]

i dont as my girl understands my feelings. she may not agree with them, but knows that we can come to a middle ground about it. I've gone through my ass hunter/tranny chaser/cock oogler phase (everyone has one, some just get stuck in it), and i'm just at a point where i want more stability in my life. whether that be with a ts or not isnt truly up to me, so i just flow wit life and be ready for anything.

[BeardedOne]

My, you're thoughtful and inquisitive this week, Kelly. :)

I can't really reply to the remorse issue as I am neither married nor monogamous. When I've been in relationships (There's some ancient history) I was always honest with my partner about where my head, heart, and dick were (And sometimes my ass) as regards other encounters.

Players...At least I assume that would be the appropriate word...Will not likely feel remorse about encounters with escorts. Elsewise, they wouldn't be playing, would they? Sure, there may be the occasional soul that actually has a heart of sorts who may burst into tears after he's sucked your T-clit or had you in his ass, but I'd suspect that is very rare.


Girls can get on this too, do you take married customers? Do you ever feel guilty?

Sorry, but that's just plain silly. If an escort feels guilty about corrupting the morals of her clients then she/he/they really need some career counseling. The escort is not at fault for providing the service. Free will and moral judgement are solely in the hands of the individual partaking of the vice. Just because a cigarette or beer is within reach, doesn't make it a neccesity. That's on the individual.

Excuse me while I pause to get another beer. :P


I dont I'm not the one who took the vows...

Me-YOW! :lol: I like you, Kira. If you ever vizzit the other coast (You're 'middle', I'm east), I'll feed you. :)


You could be bringing home a disease to your wife and children. NOT JUST the aids virus.

That isn't a matter of remorse, but rather an issue of stupidity, ignorance and (If the escort =knows= they have a 'bug') criminal negligence.


If you were strong you'd be honest with her, instead of going behind her back.

This is where I'm somewhat disqualified from the basis of the issue (But I'm glad to see that I am now considered 'strong'. I must go move some furniture now! :wink: ). I've always been honest in my relationships and, in some cases to their dismay, have often described the the gory details of other encounters. Hell, a couple of my GG girlfriends have even watched me blow my male lovers. :shock: I don't think it gets much more honest than that. :shrug


What bothers me is how the wife or gf goes after the girl and not the cheat

I've never understood that myself. In their eyes, it is clearly =YOUR= fault that they married a lying, cheating asshole. :roll:

I know sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many GGs in relationships/marriages like that. Go figure.

[Night Rider]

Another way I look at it is...you're only paying for a service.

It's ok to pay for a full body massage, but if some random girl gave you one, it would be a different story.

These days I only cheat in Amsterdam once a year, where prostitution's legal. The day I get married is the day I'll be faithfull, I'm not breaking any vows at the minute.

[KiraHarden]

My, you're thoughtful and inquisitive this week, Kelly. :)

I can't really reply to the remorse issue as I am neither married nor monogamous. When I've been in relationships (There's some ancient history) I was always honest with my partner about where my head, heart, and dick were (And sometimes my ass) as regards other encounters.

Players...At least I assume that would be the appropriate word...Will not likely feel remorse about encounters with escorts. Elsewise, they wouldn't be playing, would they? Sure, there may be the occasional soul that actually has a heart of sorts who may burst into tears after he's sucked your T-clit or had you in his ass, but I'd suspect that is very rare.


Girls can get on this too, do you take married customers? Do you ever feel guilty?

Sorry, but that's just plain silly. If an escort feels guilty about corrupting the morals of her clients then she/he/they really need some career counseling. The escort is not at fault for providing the service. Free will and moral judgement are solely in the hands of the individual partaking of the vice. Just because a cigarette or beer is within reach, doesn't make it a neccesity. That's on the individual.

Excuse me while I pause to get another beer. :P


I dont I'm not the one who took the vows...

Me-YOW! :lol: I like you, Kira. If you ever vizzit the other coast (You're 'middle', I'm east), I'll feed you. :)


You could be bringing home a disease to your wife and children. NOT JUST the aids virus.

That isn't a matter of remorse, but rather an issue of stupidity, ignorance and (If the escort =knows= they have a 'bug') criminal negligence.


If you were strong you'd be honest with her, instead of going behind her back.

This is where I'm somewhat disqualified from the basis of the issue (But I'm glad to see that I am now considered 'strong'. I must go move some furniture now! :wink: ). I've always been honest in my relationships and, in some cases to their dismay, have often described the the gory details of other encounters. Hell, a couple of my GG girlfriends have even watched me blow my male lovers. :shock: I don't think it gets much more honest than that. :shrug


What bothers me is how the wife or gf goes after the girl and not the cheat

I've never understood that myself. In their eyes, it is clearly =YOUR= fault that they married a lying, cheating asshole. :roll:

I know sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many GGs in relationships/marriages like that. Go figure.
Ill do that hun

Oh and if a guy cheats on me, he better sleep with one eye open, because I'm not going after her... SNIP SNIP!! :twisted:

[TheOne1]

Another way I look at it is...you're only paying for a service.

It's ok to pay for a full body massage, but if some random girl gave you one, it would be a different story.

These days I only cheat in Amsterdam once a year, where prostitution's legal. The day I get married is the day I'll be faithfull, I'm not breaking any vows at the minute.

so you'd be fine with your gg girlfriend or ts girlfriend, or wife or boyfriend/partner to pay a random guy to suck the cum from out his dick, since its just a service..right?

[Night Rider]

so you'd be fine with your gg girlfriend or ts girlfriend, or wife or boyfriend/partner to pay a random guy to suck the cum from out his dick, since its just a service..right?

That would be her choice and who am I to tell a grown woman what she can and cannot do. I'm not breaking any laws.

I'm not saying it's ideal for a relationship, it's just strictly sex with legal prostitutes in Amsterdam. Nothing to shed a tear over.

[marissaazts]

this is a good topic kelly
for me i am fiercely loyal and would never cheat on my sig other and if i found that she had cheated on me w/any one else man woman or another ts, it would break my heart. niterider all you are doing is justifying cheating how do you think your g/f would feel if she found out, would she be ok w/it? would it be ok if she took a trip and slept w/someone else w/you?

[TheOne1]

so you'd be fine with your gg girlfriend or ts girlfriend, or wife or boyfriend/partner to pay a random guy to suck the cum from out his dick, since its just a service..right?

That would be her choice and who am I to tell a grown woman what she can and cannot do. I'm not breaking any laws.

I'm not saying it's ideal for a relationship, it's just strictly sex with legal prostitutes in Amsterdam. Nothing to shed a tear over.

i didn't say anything about control over someone, or the legality of it.. i just asked if you'd be ok with your partner or gf or bf doing it?

[dgtlmstry]

I have been with an escort twice, and both times with my wifes "blessing". Like anything else, if you think it's wrong because you have your own hang ups, then don't do it. If you have a relationship that is open, honest, and can handle it, what business is it of anyone else how you and your wife/husband handle your relationship?

Sex is sex, and too many folks are so hung up on it...I find it so interesting. Its like the republicans who always get caught being less than conservative when it comes to sexuality or drugs. Totally hypocritical.

Much love.

[marissaazts]

niterider i am not trying to pick on you here or fight but i saw your photo someone posted and you have a cross tattooed on you belly now i am an atheist but it seems you are not wouldent what you are doing be quite hypocritical? useing escorts, drugs, and the such

[Night Rider]

this is a good topic kelly
for me i am fiercely loyal and would never cheat on my sig other and if i found that she had cheated on me w/any one else man woman or another ts, it would break my heart. niterider all you are doing is justifying cheating how do you think your g/f would feel if she found out, would she be ok w/it? would it be ok if she took a trip and slept w/someone else w/you?

I don't hear you's moaning to ts escorts about them being unfaithful. I'm sure she wouldn't like the news, but I'm not stupid enough to let her know. As I said I only sleep with TS prostitutes in Amsterdam, different area code, different rules. How many women do you hear about cheating on their man on their hen night? Loads. It's not a big deal to me if you're not married. Call me what you want but I'm only 21 and that's life.

[Night Rider]

niterider i am not trying to pick on you here or fight but i saw your photo someone posted and you have a cross tattooed on you belly now i am an atheist but it seems you are not wouldent what you are doing be quite hypocritical? useing escorts, drugs, and the such

I'm not a Christian. I got that tattoo when I was 16. I do however, believe in God or a Higher Power.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I have been with an escort twice, and both times with my wifes "blessing". Like anything else, if you think it's wrong because you have your own hang ups, then don't do it. If you have a relationship that is open, honest, and can handle it, what business is it of anyone else how you and your wife/husband handle your relationship?

Sex is sex, and too many folks are so hung up on it...I find it so interesting. Its like the republicans who always get caught being less than conservative when it comes to sexuality or drugs. Totally hypocritical.

Much love. That's different you were open with her, you didn't go behind her back.

[dgtlmstry]

Indeed Kelly. It isn't easy to be totally open, especially when you grow up in our culture..but its well worth it in the long run. That being said, I think alot of people (again maybe because of the culture) are so sexually repressed they have this love hate relationship with it. That is what I find totally crap...but whatever. You understand my point, Im sure.

[Night Rider]

That's different you were open with her, you didn't go behind her back.

So if you tell someone you're going to punch them, it's different because you were open with them?

Some things are better left untold.

[MrsKellyPierce]

That's different you were open with her, you didn't go behind her back.

So if you tell someone you're going to punch them, it's different because you were open with them?

Some things are better left untold. lol thats an easy way out and to make yourself feel better, but thats cool!

And I totally feel you dgl

[alphanumeric]

okay, In the last serious relationship I was in (years ago) my girlfriend were together for 2.5 years. unfortunatly that was half a year to long. I stayed out of the house for a long as I could, and I would visit a friends sister who I was starting to care for. I told the friends sister one night how I felt about her, and if she felt as i did I would have broken it off with my girlfriend right there.

But she didn't feel the same way and I lost her friendship because of that and a month later me and my girlfriend broke up because we both came to realize that we were both miserable.

but the funny part is that my ex and I are still pretty good friends and I've never seen my friend, or his sisters again as they moved out of town.

did I cheat, emotionally maybe. physically no, it's a razors line I walked but it seemed to work out for the best.

[MrsKellyPierce]

okay, In the last serious relationship I was in (years ago) my girlfriend were together for 2.5 years. unfortunatly that was half a year to long. I stayed out of the house for a long as I could, and I would visit a friends sister who I was starting to care for. I told the friends sister one night how I felt about her, and if she felt as i did I would have broken it off with my girlfriend right there.

But she didn't feel the same way and I lost her friendship because of that and a month later me and my girlfriend broke up because we both came to realize that we were both miserable.

but the funny part is that my ex and I are still pretty good friends and I've never seen my friend, or his sisters again as they moved out of town.

did I cheat, emotionally maybe. physically no, it's a razors line I walked but it seemed to work out for the best. Thats all well and good my love, but I was talking about married men and commited men that rent out escorts.

[BeardedOne]

Thats all well and good my love, but I was talking about married men and commited men that rent out escorts.

So it's OK if they cheat for free? That can be handy. :wink:

[alphanumeric]

okay, In the last serious relationship I was in (years ago) my girlfriend were together for 2.5 years. unfortunatly that was half a year to long. I stayed out of the house for a long as I could, and I would visit a friends sister who I was starting to care for. I told the friends sister one night how I felt about her, and if she felt as i did I would have broken it off with my girlfriend right there.

But she didn't feel the same way and I lost her friendship because of that and a month later me and my girlfriend broke up because we both came to realize that we were both miserable.

but the funny part is that my ex and I are still pretty good friends and I've never seen my friend, or his sisters again as they moved out of town.

did I cheat, emotionally maybe. physically no, it's a razors line I walked but it seemed to work out for the best. Thats all well and good my love, but I was talking about married men and commited men that rent out escorts.

trust me, cheating is cheating. period

[alphanumeric]

I will say though that it came be a teeny weeny bit the womans fault, alot of women seem to think that once their married they can throw their labido right out the window. (esp. once they have kids) if you don't take care of your significant others needs someone will...

[MacShreach]

I will say though that it came be a teeny weeny bit the womans fault, alot of women seem to think that once their married they can throw their labido right out the window. (esp. once they have kids) if you don't take care of your significant others needs someone will...

This is true, alpha. Personally as far as I'm concerned professional engagements with escorts don't count as contravening marriage. Private affairs, on the other hand, I would regard as completely unacceptable because they involve an emotional commitment.

Sex with an escort is just harmless therapy. Over the years I've got to know a few fairly well and I know we enjoyed (and still do) each other's company, but that's as far as it goes. I mean I like my dentist fine but I'm not going to leave my wife for him.

I remember one girl-- it was our first meeting-- asking "Don't you get sex from your wife?" to which I replied, "Yes of course I do, and it's great." She was puzzled and pressed me-- in a teasing way-- to explain why I used professionals. I had to think about it, but my reply was "I like variety."

And that's it-- I like variety, but I am not under any circumstances going to enter an emotional engagement with another woman. Life is way too short to even think about not enjoying all the pleasure of sex because of some ludicrous quasi-religious hang-ups, as far as I'm concerned; on the other hand I have emotional and financial commitments that I am obliged to honour, and would even without that obligation.

Any reasonable woman would, I hope, recognise that years of moral, emotional and financial support, the provision of a home and the upbringing of several children, far outweigh a man being led to enjoy an escort a few times a year by his sense of adventure and desire for variety.

I've said it before and I'll say it again-- the sensible use of escorts has saved many a marriage from the divorce courts.

I think this thread is basically about the confusion of sex for love, a common enough error.

[MerriCait]

i dont get people who get use escorts while in a relationship, it doesnt make sence to me, be with one person of break it off and do whatever, thats how i look at things.

[wombat33]

Feel remorse or worry about your wife, kids, and/or girlfriend, when you rent out escorts? For the men that are married? If you don't can you explain why, I'm just wondering. I personally don't agree with it. Girls can get on this too, do you take married customers? Do you ever feel guilty? I'm just curious. lol Thought it's a topic that hasn't been talked about.


I am not married. I have a g/f and she shares my interest, gives me my freedom and also wants to participate in a three way with me and a willing t-girl. She knows I have sen escorts. I know she wants to be with two men and would also make that happen for her. She is also wiling to have a threeway with me and another girl.

I think we are pretty close to making the date with a t-girl in NYC as a couple. It should be great and if it does happen, I will be the first to tell.

[wombat33]

I dont I'm not the one who took the vows...

www.myspace.com/kiraharden
www.youtube.com/kiraharden


ahhh..... but you are an exsessary. LOL

[wombat33]

I guess I look at it differently. I look at it as a persons or people's lives if there are kids that are involved. You could be bringing home a disease to your wife and children. NOT JUST the aids virus.

I also see it as being weak not in the least bit strong. If you were strong you'd be honest with her, instead of going behind her back. You could be ruining her whole life, and how she views relationships.

I guess I look at it as a whole and not just the 5 minutes of pleasure.

HEY!!!!!! 7 minutes here!!!!!

[KiraHarden]

I dont I'm not the one who took the vows...

www.myspace.com/kiraharden
www.youtube.com/kiraharden


ahhh..... but you are an exsessary. LOL
only if I take the ring off his finger

[MacShreach]

i dont get people who get use escorts while in a relationship, it doesnt make sence to me, be with one person of break it off and do whatever, thats how i look at things.

Don't expect people in successful long-term relationships to pay any attention to you. When you're old enough to write a coherent sentence we might even--just-- listen.

But then, once you've grown up that much, you will, perhaps, have realised that life is not so simple.