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thx1138
11-15-2007, 03:48 PM
Muslim Jihadists on the other side of the world or this: US Martial Law and Domestic Detention Camps
by Brian Harring
In the event of civil insurrection or physical resistance to U.S. government policies, the official machinery is now in place for swift containment by U.S. military forces, to include the various State National Guards, Special Forces and Military Police units.
It is to be stressed that while these plans, which have been maturing since the Reagan Administration and are now fully functional, are only contingency plans. It would require a Presidential Order to activate them.
Under President Bush's "National Strategy For Homeland Security", FEMA will be placed under the Office of Homeland Security. Both Homeland Security and the Department of Defense planned to participate "in homeland security training that involves military and civilian emergency response", provoking comparison to Rex-84. And now, the Bush administration is moving to give FEMA disturbing new responsibilities.
Earlier, President Bush had ensured there would be no current FBI/FEMA conflict, mandating that FEMA work closely with the DOJ (of which the FBI is part), creating what Bush called a "seamlessly integrated" network. With this bond between FEMA and the DOJ, the Administration effectively voided the inter-departmental checks which stopped FEMA's earlier abuses.
According to the Department of Homeland Security, FEMA "will continue to change the emergency management culture from one that reacts to terrorism, to one that proactively helps communities and citizens avoid becoming victims". Paradoxically, FEMA's prior debacle was a direct outgrowth of its pursuit of proactive methods, its attempt to legitimize the assumption of extraordinary powers under the very cloak of "counter terrorism".
When president Ronald Reagan was considering invading Nicaragua he issued a series of executive orders that provided the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) with broad powers in the event of a "crisis" such as "violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition against a US military invasion abroad". They were never used.
But with the looming possibility of a U.S. invasion of Iraq, recent pronouncements by Bush's domestic security chief Tom Ridge and an official with the U.S. Civil Rights Commission should fire concerns that these powers could be employed or a de facto drift into their deployment could occur
On July 20, 2002, the Detroit Free Press ran a story entitled "Arabs in US could be held, official warns". The story referred to a member of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission who foresaw the possibility of internment camps for Arab Americans. FEMA has practiced for such an occasion.
FEMA, whose main role is disaster response, is also responsible for handling US domestic unrest. From 1982-84 Colonel Oliver North assisted FEMA in drafting its civil defense preparations. Details of these plans emerged during the 1987 Iran-Contra scandal. They included executive orders providing for suspension of the constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the president and FEMA
A Miami Herald article on July 5, 1987, reported that the former FEMA director Louis Guiffrida's deputy, John Brinkerhoff, handled the martial law portion of the planning. The plan was said to be similar to one Giuffrida had developed earlier to combat "a national uprising by black militants". It provided for the detention "of at least 21 million American Negroes"' in "assembly centers or relocation camps."
Currently, Brinkerhoff is with the highly influential Anser Institute for Homeland Security. Following a request by the Pentagon in January 2002 that the U.S. military be allowed the option of deploying troops on U.S. streets, the institute in February 2002 published a paper by Brinkerhoff arguing the legality of this. He alleged that the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which has long been accepted as prohibiting such deployments, has simply been misunderstood and misapplied. The preface to the article also provided the revelation that the national plan he had worked on, under Giuffrida, was "approved by Reagan, and actions were taken to implement it".
By April 2002, the US military had created a Northern Command to aid Homeland defense. Reuters reported that the command is "mainly expected to play a supporting role to local authorities." However, Ridge, the Director of Homeland Security, has just advocated a review of U.S. law regarding the use of the military for law enforcement duties
. Disturbingly, the full facts and final contents of Reagan's national plan remain uncertain. This is in part because Bush took the unusual step of sealing the Reagan presidential papers after he took over the presidency in November 2001. However, many of the key figures of the Reagan era are now part of the present administration, including John Poindexter, to whom Oliver North later reported.
At the time of the Reagan initiatives, the then attorney-general, William French Smith, wrote to the national security adviser, Robert McFarlane: "I believe that the role assigned to the Federal Emergency Management Agency in the revised Executive Order exceeds its proper function as a co-coordinating agency for emergency preparedness ... this department and others have repeatedly raised serious policy and legal objections to an 'emergency czar' role for FEMA."
Criticism of the Bush Administration's response to September 11 echoes Smith's warning. On June 7 2002, Nixon's former presidential counsel John Dean spoke of the U.S. sliding into a "constitutional dictatorship" and martial law as a result of the September 11, 2001 events.
In a revealing admission the Director of Resource Management for the U.S. Army confirmed the
validity of a memorandum relating to the establishment of a civilian inmate labor program under development by the Department of the Army. The document states, "Enclosed for your review and comment is the draft Army regulation on civilian inmate labor utilization" and the procedure to "establish civilian prison camps on installations." Cherith Chronicle, June 1997.

Civilian internment camps or prison camps, more commonly known as concentration camps, have been the subject of much rumor and speculation during the past few years in America. Several publications have devoted space to the topic and many talk radio programs have dealt with the issue.

However, Congressman Henry Gonzales (D, Texas) clarified the question of the existence of civilian detention camps. In an interview the congressman stated, "the truth is yes - you do have these stand by provisions, and the plans are here...whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism...evoke the military and arrest Americans and put them in detention camps."

Currently, President Bush and Homeland Security have authorized preliminary studies for the rapid construction of a National Detention Center Program-controlled series of detention centers, to be added to the existing 600 units now in place

The Department of Homeland Security is consulting with an Israeli company, Israeli Prison Systems, Ltd. for the expedited construction of modular internment camps‘ Interment Camps’ generally located in rural and relatively uninhabited areas throughout the Continental United States and Alaska. .

FEMA, whose black budget comes from the Department of Defense, has worked closely with the Pentagon in an effort to avoid the legal restrictions of Posse Comitatus. While FEMA may not have been directly responsible for these precedent-setting cases, the principle of federal control was seen during the Los Angeles riots in 1992 with the federalization of the National Guard and during the siege at Waco, where Army tanks equipped with flame throwers were involved in the final conflagration.


The Deputy Attorney General of California commented at a conference that anyone who attacks the State, even verbally, becomes a revolutionary and an enemy by definition. Louis Guiffreda, who was head of FEMA, stated that "legitimate violence is integral to our form of government, for it is from this source that we can continue to purge our weaknesses."

It is significant to note that the dictionary definition of terrorism - "the calculated use of violence" - corresponds precisely to the government's stated policy of "the use of legitimate violence." One might ask, who are the real terrorists? Guiffreda's remark gives a revealing insight into the thinking of those who have been charged with oversight of the welfare of the citizens in this country. If one's convictions or philosophy does not correspond with the government's agenda, that individual may find himself on the government's enemy list. This makes him a "target" to be "purged" by the use of "legitimate violence."

President Regan signed Presidential Director Number 54 in April of 1984 that allowed FEMA to activate a secret national readiness exercise. This exercise was given the code name REX 84. The purpose of the exercise was to test FEMA's ability to assume military authority. REX 84 was so highly guarded that special metal security doors were installed on the fifth floor of the FEMA building in Washington, D.C. securing the area in which the REX Operational Center was centered.
The exercise required the following.....
· Suspension of the Constitution of the United States
· Turning control of the government over to FEMA
· Appointment of military commanders to run state and local governments
· Declaration of Martial Law
To combat possible domestic civil disturbances, leaders apply the minimum force necessary to help local and loyal authorities restore law and order. Leaders and Soldiers remain aware that the media often covers civil disturbances. Even when not covered, these disturbances are opportunities to shape the information environment positively toward the US forces and government.

Combating these disturbances may involve the following:

Maintain the essential distribution, transportation, and communications systems.
· Set up roadblocks.
· Cordon off areas.
· Make a show of force.
· Disperse or contain crowds.

· Release riot control agents only when directed to do so. (Only the President can authorize
US forces to use riot control agents.)
· Serve as security forces or reserves.
· Initiate needed relief measures, such as distributing food or clothing, or establishing
emergency shelters.
· Employ nonlethal munitions and equipment.

. The media, print and broadcast (radio, television and the Internet), play a vital role in societies involved in a counterinsurgency. Members of the media have a significant influence and shaping impact on political direction, national security objectives, and policy and national will. The media is a factor in military operations. It is their right and obligation to report to their respective audiences on the use of military force. They demand logistic support and access to military operations while refusing to be controlled. Their desire for immediate footage and on-the-spot coverage of events, and the increasing contact with units and Soldiers (for example, with embedded reporters) require commanders and public affairs officers to provide guidance to leaders and Soldiers on media relations.

However, military planners must provide and enforce ground rules to the media to ensure operations security. Public affairs offices plan for daily briefings and a special briefing after each significant event because the media affect and influence each potential target audience external and internal to the AO. Speaking with the media in a forward-deployed area is an opportunity to explain what
our organizations and efforts have accomplished.

NewYorker
11-15-2007, 06:58 PM
Not to nitpick but FEMA already is under the office of Homeland Security. Such an obvious omission puts the rest of this article into serious doubt.

Willie Escalade
11-16-2007, 12:13 AM
This pretty much sums it up. :(

MrsKellyPierce
11-16-2007, 12:14 AM
ME!

CORVETTEDUDE
11-16-2007, 01:01 AM
A. ) That is not a new artical, so if you're going to post something as current, please make sure it is. Your cerdibility just went down the shitter.

B. ) If you want to know where our fear as Americans should lie, ask the question, instead of trying to make a statement in a covert manner.

C. ) If you have an agenda, make it known.

CORVETTEDUDE
11-16-2007, 01:02 AM
A. ) That is not a new artical, so if you're going to post something as current, please make sure it is. Your cerdibility just went down the shitter.

B. ) If you want to know where our fear as Americans should lie, ask the question, instead of trying to make a statement in a covert manner.

C. ) If you have an agenda, make it known.

stevenb43
11-16-2007, 06:42 AM
I fear any people who want to kill me because I don't belong to their religion. Be it a muslim or a jew. Frankly I live in a rather nice gated community on a golf course and I don't know what religion either of my neighbors are and don't care. They pray to their god and I pray to whatever but we as Americans can accept that. Others cannot. Why is that? We have to start thinking that other countries are not as casual as we are. This country was born on religious freedom...........I only pray to the shemale in the sky.........

Chubby Cox
11-16-2007, 06:56 AM
I'm afraid of large groups of young black males especially at night. So scary.

El Nino
11-16-2007, 08:13 AM
Statistically speaking, one has a greater chance of getting hit by lightning then being the victim of a terrorist attack. Now don't you wish you hadn't of given up your constitutional rights up so easily?

blckhaze
11-16-2007, 08:14 AM
3) "nigga" moments
2) pork chops
1) F.E.M.A.

lust4ts
11-16-2007, 09:03 AM
I think if I went to America I would most scared of NY Taxi drivers, death by over enthusiastic bullshit!

Jericho
11-16-2007, 11:01 AM
Cannibal Hillbillies!

tall, dark & Handsome
11-16-2007, 11:09 AM
Soccer Moms

thx1138
11-16-2007, 03:05 PM
the thing is if/when there are riots over lack of shelter/food/electicity (most likely within the next 10 years) the authorities are well prepared for a response which is going into an area and ROUNDING UP EVERYONE like they do in Iraq. See New Orleans. What will happened next to those rounded up will be decided by the CIC. There is a camp in Indiana that looks suspiciously like an extermination camp. Tubes going in and not coming out. I don't have the link but i have seen the photos. If US economic conditions become really bad expect a lot of finger pointing. Lets just hope they point in the right direction.

NewYorker
11-16-2007, 06:30 PM
the thing is if/when there are riots over lack of shelter/food/electicity (most likely within the next 10 years) the authorities are well prepared for a response which is going into an area and ROUNDING UP EVERYONE like they do in Iraq. See New Orleans. What will happened next to those rounded up will be decided by the CIC. There is a camp in Indiana that looks suspiciously like an extermination camp. Tubes going in and not coming out. I don't have the link but i have seen the photos. If US economic conditions become really bad expect a lot of finger pointing. Lets just hope they point in the right direction.

Ten years is a long time in the political world. In ten years we could possibly be on our second democrat president and the previous democrat president could have dismantled half the things mentioned in the article. Secondly, rioting is handled by the national guard and police, which are controlled by local government not federal government. FEMA would never be involved.

thx1138
11-17-2007, 05:19 AM
The US military is READY to go: Click here: WorldNetDaily: General would deploy troops on U.S. soil

thx1138
11-17-2007, 05:21 AM
here's the corrected link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58696

AllanahStarrNYC
11-17-2007, 05:26 AM
fear other right wing extremist americans

phxguy
11-17-2007, 05:35 AM
I fear Christian fundamentalists who want to control how I run my life.

Night Rider
11-17-2007, 05:37 AM
http://www.museumofconceptualart.com/Jesusisms_vs_Bushisms/images/Fool%20Me.jpg

thx1138
11-17-2007, 06:25 AM
@NewYorker: Democratic president to dismantle?
Actually it was Bill Clinton that signed FEMA into law in 1994. The US fascist agenda transcends both parties. DON'T look to Hillary for relief. :>(

El Nino
11-17-2007, 07:33 AM
exactly, the left/right paradigm is a false one, set up to blind the masses. The true dichotomy is Top/down one, i.e. elites call the shots and make the rules. The people are oppressed

stevenb43
11-17-2007, 11:35 AM
I used to be a stock broker and the market and economy did great during Clinton.....

thx1138
11-17-2007, 04:40 PM
@stevenB: So what's your occupation now?

francisfkudrow
11-17-2007, 07:17 PM
the thing is if/when there are riots over lack of shelter/food/electicity (most likely within the next 10 years) the authorities are well prepared for a response which is going into an area and ROUNDING UP EVERYONE like they do in Iraq. See New Orleans. What will happened next to those rounded up will be decided by the CIC. There is a camp in Indiana that looks suspiciously like an extermination camp. Tubes going in and not coming out. I don't have the link but i have seen the photos. If US economic conditions become really bad expect a lot of finger pointing. Lets just hope they point in the right direction.

Ten years is a long time in the political world. In ten years we could possibly be on our second democrat president and the previous democrat president could have dismantled half the things mentioned in the article. Secondly, rioting is handled by the national guard and police, which are controlled by local government not federal government. FEMA would never be involved.

Yes, but I fear that these emergency powers will be used to prevent any democrat from being president again. If a democrat wins in 2008, I worry that some sort of trumped up "national security emergency" will be declared, under which Bush would continue to be president, (somewhat like Emperor Palpatine in Star Wars.)

Quinn
11-17-2007, 08:03 PM
exactly, the left/right paradigm is a false one, set up to blind the masses. The true dichotomy is Top/down one, i.e. elites call the shots and make the rules.

Finally, some clarity of thought. When I hear people come at me with party-line dogma, from either the left or the right, I can't help but feel sorry for them. Clueless sheep...

-Quinn

Steve-Oh
11-17-2007, 10:39 PM
Be afraid of little grey men in black helicopters!!

BBaggins06
11-17-2007, 10:47 PM
Carnies, little hand and smell vaguely of cabbage

BBaggins06
11-17-2007, 10:53 PM
the thing is if/when there are riots over lack of shelter/food/electicity (most likely within the next 10 years)

That would be FANTASTIC for me professionally. All the old timers reminisce fondly the Chicago Race Riots of '68. I can always live in the firehouse and we'll always be first at the electo-teet. That was a good year for me personally as well since that's when I burst out of my mother's womb like an Alien baby. Well, we haven't had a decent riot here in Chicago since the Bulls last championship. *sigh* Mahalo

Matt

BBaggins06
11-17-2007, 10:55 PM
the thing is if/when there are riots over lack of shelter/food/electicity (most likely within the next 10 years) the authorities are well prepared for a response which is going into an area and ROUNDING UP EVERYONE like they do in Iraq. See New Orleans. What will happened next to those rounded up will be decided by the CIC. There is a camp in Indiana that looks suspiciously like an extermination camp. Tubes going in and not coming out. I don't have the link but i have seen the photos. If US economic conditions become really bad expect a lot of finger pointing. Lets just hope they point in the right direction.

Ten years is a long time in the political world. In ten years we could possibly be on our second democrat president and the previous democrat president could have dismantled half the things mentioned in the article. Secondly, rioting is handled by the national guard and police, which are controlled by local government not federal government. FEMA would never be involved.

Yes, but I fear that these emergency powers will be used to prevent any democrat from being president again. If a democrat wins in 2008, I worry that some sort of trumped up "national security emergency" will be declared, under which Bush would continue to be president, (somewhat like Emperor Palpatine in Star Wars.)

:king :king :king

Hail to the king baby.

El Nino
11-18-2007, 12:01 AM
Nice, finally the "Mighty Quinn" agrees with me LOL :)

Quinn
11-18-2007, 12:04 AM
Nice, finally the "Mighty Quinn" agrees with me LOL :)

It was bound to happen eventually :wink:

-Quinn

2vert
11-18-2007, 02:05 AM
Rothschild et al.

TJT
11-18-2007, 02:10 AM
Flatulent cows.