Is it just white man you want ......

[kaysla]

It seems to me that a most of you women out there just want white men. Why I dont know? Do you think there the only one with money? Do you think they will just want to fuk and run home to there wifes and your happy with that? Or is it you just dont want to deal with any othere male besides a white man. And I dont understand it because most of the women in the partys are black and hispainc so why not show you people so love. We come from the same place you do and where trying to show you some love by being there and you try to get the white mans eye all the time. Dont get me wrong I'm not saying your not feeling them but some of those guys white or black are just crazy looking , and i know it's about the money but after that maybe you should make some friends, so you can enjoy a man in your life for more then just and hour or whatever time they pay for. Just some thing to make you say hummmmmmmm..

[popperluv]

Wow this topic comes up alot!

[Porndog]

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[NYCe]

I think for one year Transsexuals should date nothing but Asian guys, just to fuck with all of our heads.

[mixedprettyboy]

I think it's cuz white men are easier to take advantage of money-wise.

[Ts Laura]

I think for one year Transsexuals should date nothing but Asian guys, just to fuck with all of our heads.

lmao harsh

the topic can be so flip flopped towards any race really, why do whites fantasize about asian girls so much, why do asian men fantasize about white girls so much, why are black males and hispanic males so forward when approaching a tgirl vs the white male? i don't think it has alot to do with taking advantage of anyone as just about any race has educated and non educated people in it, i for one have had alot more issues with attitude from black/hispanic males that don't like tgirls vs white males. and alot of the time you run across black males that are rude or way to forward towards the girls. One thing most tgirls like is for any race of guy to just treat them nice and not be so aggressive like with there liking of a tgirl. It honestly isn't just about the color of the skin but the attitudes that seem to come around the guys from different ethnic backgrounds and the images they have. We could ask guys the same types of questions, why is it when you see us in public you assume were just waiting on you to run over and hit on us lol

[hillbilly]

hey i'm white! where's my girl?

[Felicia Katt]

For some reason, I get hit on a lot, both in person, and online by Black men. And most of the time, that is their pickup line ie, You like Black men? or any of the variations (chocolate, dark meat) And that always puts me off, and in an awkward situation, because if I turn them down, the implication is I did so because they are black, rather than because they were pushy/aggressive/arrogant. Its easier to be more gracious in person, and online, my standard reply is that I don't discriminate. But that doesn't always work.

So, I don't know if this answers the question. I also think for every girl who may not like Black men, there are others who are way more into them because they are black (the old saying, Once you go black, you never go back) Everyone is entitled to their likes and dislikes, but I agree girls shouldn't be disrepectful to guys just because they are black, but guys shouldn't act as if that is all they have to offer, or take that as the sole reason when their offer is rejected.

Felicia

[Realgirls4me]

... I think it still comes down for most on how one is treated, which one can size up within seconds in most cases. I'm not white and I don't think I've ever had any trouble whatsoever with a TS, but I also try to be respectful, dress well, bathe, cordial, and groomed to my best, et all. I grant you that I haven't had the many experiences that some here have had, but I've never sensed any bigotry or hostility because I'm not white. Treat a person well, dress for their respect as well as yours, and in the majority of cases, it is reciprocated.

[TominNYC]

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I think it's cuz white men are easier to take advantage of money-wise.

WOW...Is that really true ?? As I sit in my $850,000 NYC Condo...LOL

[steeveX]

white guys tend to have more money go ask tgirl escorts what ethnics ther customers mainly come from. so white (middle aged) men usually "buy" them tgirl love in many cases.

i just repeat what ive heard from several tgirls: if they turn down an offer from a black guy their response usually is they accuse the gir (directly or indirectly) of beeing racist. that will more likely put off the girls in the future.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

this is hilarious...........................
a few things to add to this "has been covered,next time do a search thread"
1. my bad for not making the weekly party, my allergies won the fight tonight
2. Porndog, that is an AWESOME avatar
3. SteeveX said this "white guys tend to have more money go ask tgirl escorts what ethnics ther customers mainly come from. so white (middle aged) men usually "buy" them tgirl love in many cases."

Look, I make good money, doesnt matter what nationality I am, we are all "green" at one point or another to any woman (T or G). Once you get that in your head you can begin to understand the game. I also have to say this: no offense to some of you guys out there but you can't walk in to a spot with these T-girls and expect to get results with a trucker baseball cap, le tigre short sleeve shirt, and levi 501's. You wouldn't dress like that if you were going to a straight club and wanted to buy a "Jennifer Aniston" look a like a drink, so what makes you think you can get away with that shit with a T-girl? Hell they want the same dudes those Aniston look alikes want. You'd be amazed what some casual attire, cologne, and a hairbrush could do for you................

[texas4000]

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[hillbilly]

great points JohnnyWalker. now how do I get those abs. lol.

yeah man there are some real sweeping generalizations going on here.

let me say this. i am an urban downtown white slob. always have been and it drove my father crazy. "hey are you ever gonna tuck in your shirt". when i look like a slob i can tell you i blend into the background when i am out. when i do put in a little effort (cause a little is really all i am capable of) to my look i get a much better response.

by no means is anyone flocking to me. lol. but i feel more confident and open as a result.

this idea that all white guys have money? and even worse that black guys don't? wow how horrible.

i've been doing this since i had no money at all. i would set aside $30 every 2 weeks and go to Times Square. Enjoying myself one quarter at a time plus tips and i handed out those dollars like they were gold cause they were to me at the time.

so if you think its about color and money then you certainly can change one of those. go make some dam money!

secondly if you look cheap you'll be treated cheap. stands to reason right? keep in mind these girls study fashion so you're counterfeit canal street clothes really aren't looking very fashionable to them.

these are all perceptions of the general world not just the girls. everything is certainly magnified with them though.

exaggerating themselves is the life, business, and livelyhood.

[popperluv]

Come on guys at least you have the reputation for big dicks, give us white guys something to fall on. :lol:

[hwbs]

i cant even count how many brain cells i killed reading this post.. even though some make valid points.,but it is a case with all girls...i havent heard of girls that are into slobs or guys with yellow teeth or with peculiar odors,lol.....there are 2 many girls out there to worry bout the ones that dont go 4 u.....i mean everyone has preferences.....do u????? ever had that girl try to talk to u ,and u dont give her the time of day cause shes not your type???why to the rules apply to the girls but not you.....im sure theres some truth to the middle aged guy thing ..im sure that there will soon be a college fund 4 children whos dads blew their college funds sucking dick,lol....mine as well add a little stygma humor.....its not all the white guys who sneak into all the tranny loopholes ,its the italians,lol(get it right,lol)..im really just kidding bout that ,but im cranky....i fell asleep with sportscenter on....I think alot of it comes down to the gift of gab or having someone vouch 4 u ,lol....kinda like same requirements 4 being in the mob... lol

[Vicki Richter]

You do realize you could live in a real house for that on the left coast right? In Phoenix, I'd say you could land 6500 sq/ft for $850k. I just don't get it.

I don't think this is a fair generalization. As an example, Felicia can be seen sucking many different penis varieties and she is very equal opportunity in that fact.

I like the chocolate and dark meat come on's. At least they are saying what all other guys are thinking. Just because someone puts sugar on top of a bowl of milk and throws it in the freezer, it doesn't make it ice cream. What I mean by that is just because a guy of any nationality treats me nicely, with respect, that doesn't mean he isn't thinking he wants to fuck. Dating is a joke. Some guys are looking for a life partner, but most in the club scene just wanna do the nasty. The older we grow as a culture the more the lines blur and the more gg's are going to clubs for the same thing. I have two GG friends who aren't in any way associated with the sex industry who have both slept with over 50 guys by mid-20's.

All that said, attractive TS tend to be the most shallow and materialistic of women from my experience. Just like you would expect the top 10% of women to be looking for well off guys, expect the same for TS. Most of the TS that guys meet in clubs are in the top 10% (from an attractiveness perspective) of the transsexual community. Since most of the girls are escorts, and many of them are looking for dates, they are looking for someone with dinero that is looking for pay per view.

It could be that the girls have found that black guys are more likely to not want to hire an escort than other races. I have no idea. This is just one perspective of course.

[Vicki Richter]

great points JohnnyWalker. now how do I get those abs. lol.

yeah man there are some real sweeping generalizations going on here.

let me say this. i am an urban downtown white slob. always have been and it drove my father crazy. "hey are you ever gonna tuck in your shirt". when i look like a slob i can tell you i blend into the background when i am out. when i do put in a little effort (cause a little is really all i am capable of) to my look i get a much better response.

by no means is anyone flocking to me. lol. but i feel more confident and open as a result.

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Hillbilly, I still want to hear more about the escorting that you were saying you were doing a few weeks back.

[romeo]

Hillbilly, I still want to hear more about the escorting that you were saying you were doing a few weeks back.

lol :lol: ....I guess that soon there will be another fight on Hungangels board.....Vicki Vs Hillbilly

[Vicki Richter]

I'd lose. I don't do well sparring with mystery people. I've got no ammo.

Besides I am not trying to pick a fight with hillbilly, I am just trying to understand how someone, who just last week said that they escort, is a "urban downtown white slob". It is a real mystery. Are you with me here people?

[hondarobot]

Damn. I was hoping for a good fight.

Smart money, of course, is on Vicki "The Constricter" Richter, in the fourth round.

Gentlemen, and ladies, place your bets!

:)

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Vicki has been on Hillbilly for that statement for a minute, and he/she hasnt budged......................
I've got the gatorade set in both corners

[romeo]

Besides I am not trying to pick a fight with hillbilly
I know that but I must admit that some of these fights (not all) are funny


It is a real mystery
hehe!!...This time you'll need the help of Ms Poirot...hillbilly seems to be too shrewd

LOL :lol: at hondarobot and JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel replies

[El_hefe]

Vicki said: "In Phoenix, I'd say you could land 6500 sq/ft for $850k. I just don't get it."

You got it perfectly...you'd be living in Phoenix & not New York City.
Location, location, location.

[Ecstatic]

I think in New York or Boston you'd be lucky to find 2400 sq ft for 850K.

[TominNYC]

I wish it was 2400 sq ft..its only 1700 sq ft but 1/2 block to central park..

[Ecstatic]

Nice. Our ranch house in central Mass is about 1700 sq ft as well, and 35 miles west of Boston. A mere $350 or so in this crazy market. And a whole 1/4 of an acre to boot! :)

[canihavu]

Personally, I don't dwell on the ladies who are not feeling me (for what ever reason). I mean you are going to meet some women who like you and some who don't. This holds true wether we are talking about T's or G's. I do agree with what many other posters have said, it's the way you treat them and carry yourself. When I used to go to the clubs in NYC, there were many a night when a lady wasn't feeling me initially (don't know if it was because I was Black or not) but after a while (when I finally got her to converse with me) we ended up leaving together and having a good time.

[hotvegasguy26]

it's the fried chicken smell

[beatmaker]

hotvegasguy26, I guess KFC has become one of the top 10 fast food chains in the world, with billions in revenue by just appealing to black folks. Yeah right! Basically, your a racist idiot lacking any modicum of intelligence.

Anyway enough of that idiot. I've read all of the responses and no one has really delved into the real pathology that drives this topic. One poster says it comes up a lot. It comes up a lot because it's true, especially with asian and foreign latinas. In many latin countries, there is a clear social caste system, that has the darker citizens living at the bottom and the lightest at the top. Many trannies who grow up poor learn from that. If your white or very light, you want to things to stay that way and if your dark, you feel having a white or very light companion would be like "marrying up". It's an offshoot of the Hitler Aryan blond hair, blue eyed aesthetic, that has been stamped into white and non-white minds for years. I call it the "Barbie doll" mentality. Many GG females, want to have lighter children, who will have easier lives than they did, with less obstacles and impediments to their success, so they avoid romantic relationships with anything coming into resistance with this ideal. If you see a dark-skinned latin major league baseball player with a dark wife, 9 times out of 10 he married her during his amateur days. You also tend to notice that latinas who have kinkier hair textures, that require relaxing or straightening, usually have lots of self-hatred and will definitely not want to be involved with a black man. If you think I'm exaggerating, read any article about Eva Longoria (Desperate Housewives) and she is pretty candid about all the abuse she got from siblings and family just for having tanned skin and darker hair/features. This is really disturbing since she isn't really dark at all and most Mexicans resemble her physically. It's just that, she had these sisters who were more like Cameron Diaz/Christina Aguilera types and thereby felt superior and repeatedly called her the "ugly, dark one" in Spanish. I think she dates San Antonio Spurs PG Tony Parker, as a kind of rebelling against my family and their thinking thing. However, most children will fall in line with this thinking and grow to reject anything, that reminds them of their self-hatred and harsh upbringing. So, you black men need to get your heads out your asses and realize it ain't all sweet in TS or GG dating land. I have been making these observations since high school, when I heard a latina classmate say, she would never date a black guy because her father would disown her and she doesn't want dark, nappy head children. So, trust me when I tell you, it goes deeper than this "black guys are cheap" or "black guys are too aggressive" nonsense. It is conditioning based on the pathology of white supremacy in their countries. Don't believe me, turn on Spanish TV like Galavision or Tel Mundo and tell me how many blacks do you see as actors, news anchors or models. The answer is probably zilch. If you can't hit a baseball, kick a soccer ball, dance or sing, nobody wants to see or hear from your ass! If you want to see something hilarious, try calling Afro-latin male or women "black". They will quickly get irate and say they are Dominican, Cuban, Brazilian etc. As many African-Americans still walk around with what I call "plantation thinking", in poorer countries like D.R or Brazil, finding knowledge of one's self is much harder than in the States. Especially, with American pop culture being ramroded down their throats. Think about it, the two viable components of American pop culture that promote Blacks are athletics and hip-hop. Athletics aren't too bad, but "modern day" hip-hop has further eroded the image of blackness globally to buffoonish, oversexed, thuggish posturing. Any critique of this self-defeating behavior is seen as "playa hating" (jealously for those pop culturally unastute). I am a talented hip-hop/R&B producer who wishes he could have been an adult in the 70's or 80's, when party and socially conscious songs could coexist on one album and both get radio play, be it Marvin Gaye, EWF or Public Enemy. I don't know how many of these thug cats, I've refused to work with. Shyt, I could of been close to rich by now.

Anyway, enough about my artistic qaugmires. I am sure some of you recall hearing several latin trannies say in a TS video or two, that they prefer white men. I just purchased Shemale Strokers 17 (highly recommended) and a TS named Caprice Santiago from Brazil felt the need to share this little tidbit. There was another named Emerald in S.S Volume 16 who did the same thing. So, we can imagine how many, that don't articulate it. There is book called the "Isis Papers", that really gives you a clear understanding of global white supremacy and it's affects on people of color worldwide. Even, though the book goes a little too far at some points, with these "black cat is bad, why is the 8 ball black" conspiracy theories, that will give critics ammunition to shoot down a masterpiece on the topic. I am a Christian, but realize that the image of God and Jesus has been commodified into a blond white male and spread throughout the globe via missionaries and propoganda. That is why there is a common thread between countries with large Catholic populations (like Brazil) and this mentality of "white/light is right". Hey, they have a statue of a white Jesus Christ, as tall as the Statue of Liberty in Brazil.

I won't comment as much on asians, but clearly asian women seem to be borderline obsessed with white men. Sure, white men dig asian chicks too, but I think balance of power clearly favors white men. I recall watching two of these wedding shows (I guess I was hella bored) and recall two asian women saying they weren't attracted to asian men. Many seem to equate real success, beauty and power with whiteness. If you are a loser white guy with a light wallet, you can always score a killer asian chick. When I'm hanging out in downtown Manhattan on the weekends, I amazed how many really fine asian chicks I see with bummy looking, physically unattractive white guys. Whereas a black man who works as a successful runway model and had a six figure income wouldn't even be considered by these same asian women. There is an even greater anti-black sentiment in the asian community, than latin community. The latin issue tends to rest on physicality, whereas with Asians, it physicality plus the perceived intellectual, social and moral ineptness of blacks. They really feed into this "evening news" version of blackness.

Unfortuntely, many blacks have internalized their oppressor's thinking. This is why we call each of the "N" word (later for this we changed the meaning of the word excuse). This is why colorism still exist among young black children today. This is why Felicia and other TS's get calls from black men saying ridiculous things like "dark meat' and "Black Mandingo", because many black men feel their worth as a man is linked to how tough they are, how many women they can bang and how big their Johnson is. All you have to do is listen to most rap music today, to see this in action. Like popperluv said "You black guys have big dicks, let us have something". This is the thinking, that's had the game fucked up for centuries. Another poster who embodies everything I said earlier is Megabody. He is clearly a white man who waives the flag of the light skinned, mulatto-esque looking latina/black female. If you aren't half-white looking, you are deemed physically inferior in his book and too many whites tend to share this thinking. It's this, the closer you are to whiteness (my image) the more beautiful you are thing. No wonder black and latino cultures, that have been under white colonial rule are so colorstruck. Go to formerly colonized countries in Africa, South America, the Carribean or even India and this "white/light is right, black/dark get back" mentality is the order of the day. No wonder bleaching cream is still a multimillion dollar industry in so-called Third World countries.

Folks, this is just my opinion, but I know I'm right as it is based on facts and history.

[Shining Star]

Gleaned from TS conversations and what not, and may or not be totally true:

Black/Latino men always want full service and the full hour.

It is no secret many girls charge $$$ and promise FS/one hour service, but upon arrival the truth is very different. You are in and out faster that that fat girl from the Citidel school, and usually the provider spends much of the time watching the clock/answering other phone calls.

Now, it may be an untruth, but most Blk/Latino guys are NOT going to put up with that sort of nonesense and will put up stink unless they get what they paid for or their money back (in full or partial). The general belief is that white men, afraid of scandal will just put up with what they get and go home.

It does seem white men make much more use of "review" sites to help them find out beforehand who is worth their time/money. Such sites have proved quite useful in weeding out top providers from mid to lower level ones.

Cultural bias:

Sadly racist attitudes are alive and well all over the world. Just because someone is a TS or a provider does not mean they check their beliefs at the front door. For what it is worth, there are white gays who are just as racist as their St8 peers. For years and probably still today, blk and latino gays were not welcome at popular gay bars, and even today at the major gay "parties" one sees very few compared with the overall population.

Black/Latino men will steal:

There was a group of black men ripping off girls in NYC, but that was years ago. However that memory still lingers and many girls are leery of letting them in.

I've spoken with former/current servicemen who have been everwhere and pretty much the same thing happens with providers the world over. From Vietnam to Italy, there are providers/houses that will not see blk men. Back in day the rationale was that white military men would not "visit" a house/provider that serviced minority men because they didn't want to lay where a blk man did. Harsh, but in terms of economics you couldn't fault a madam/provider for not wishing to turn off more than half of her potential base.

Personally think anyone in a service business has allot of nerve to discriminate against anyone, even more so when both are members of a minority class. But in places like NYC where a cab driver from the lowest caste in India thinks he is perfectly right for passing up a well dressed blk man hailing a fare, what can one expect?

All in all think the main reason is still that black and latino men have reputations (rightly or wrongly) as being sexually aggressive/dominate, and not willing to pay for inferior service. Most providers rather than risk a problem, just nip things in the bud by not seeing them at all.

However there is a flip side to all of this:

Young, goodlooking/muscular white guys can and usually do work their mojo on girls to get service for reduced rates or nothing at all. Many girls seem to be so happy to get their mitts on an Antiono Sabato Jr. type guy they will go for free. The guys know this and many times a provider will get a call along the lines of "you should give me a reduced rate/free. the other girls do... I'm goodlookig".

[Kianu]

how true... :oops:

[beatmaker]

Shining Star, that was a well written, informative post. Almost, as well written as mine (just joking).

When you mentioned the servicemen, I thought of the scene from Full Metal Jacket where the Vietnamese prostititute told the black soldier played by actor Dorian Harewood, that she wouldn't be with him because black men are too well endowed. In reality, the way black men get rejected is a lot less flattering, than someone telling you your penis is too big or you take too long to cum.

Your comment about the Indian cab drivers rang true also. I find it funny that many immigrants, who "don't have a pot to piss in and a window to throw it out of" still feel inherently superior to the most successful black American. I remember Tyra Banks recalling a racist incident, that occured years ago in magazine store in Manhattan. She was showing a girlfriend of her's, a cover she just landed in one of the major fashion magazines, as I think it was fairly early in her career. Anyway. the man behind the counter who was either Arab or Indian, rudely told her to stop reading the magazine and leave the store. When she showed him that she was on the cover, as an explantion for her reading. He basically said he didn't know why they would put her on the cover and basically made a racist comment about her looks and told her to leave. I think this is one reason why Tyra is one of the few young, black celebrities who speaks out regularly on prejudice. Even though she does "skin and grin" a little too much on her talk show for my taste. Many black celebs are scared of alienating white people and to be seen as some radical pro-black militant to address such issues.

I'm curious on other black men's views on the behavior of the girls at Allanah's party.

I personally like curvy, small waisted black and latina TS's and usually can do alright at the parties. I am tall, attractive, work out and dress nice so I get a good response. However, I notice the asian and the hi-fashion, assimilated latinas seem to treat brothers like the Invisible Man. I think I had one asian tranny show interest in me once at a Glorya Wholesome party three years ago. However, I could see she was one of these hip-hop lovin, size queen types, so it figured. Her "Soul Train" dance moves and crotch watching gave it away. Her two friends where more typical though. I'm just curious if some of the other brothers on the board have any interesting observations or experiences to share about the TS parties they've attended.

[Shining Star]

Shining Star, that was a well written, informative post. Almost, as well written as mine (just joking).

When you mentioned the servicemen, I thought of the scene from Full Metal Jacket where the Vietnamese prostititute told the black soldier played by actor Dorian Harewood, that she wouldn't be with him because black men are too well endowed. In reality, the way black men get rejected is a lot less flattering, than someone telling you your penis is too big or you take too long to cum.

Your comment about the Indian cab drivers rang true also. I find it funny that many immigrants, who "don't have a pot to piss in and a window to throw it out of" still feel inherently superior to the most successful black American. I remember Tyra Banks recalling a racist incident, that occured years ago in magazine store in Manhattan. She was showing a girlfriend of her's, a cover she just landed in one of the major fashion magazines, as I think it was fairly early in her career. Anyway. the man behind the counter who was either Arab or Indian, rudely told her to stop reading the magazine and leave the store. When she showed him that she was on the cover, as an explantion for her reading. He basically said he didn't know why they would put her on the cover and basically made a racist comment about her looks and told her to leave. I think this is one reason why Tyra is one of the few young, black celebrities who speaks out regularly on prejudice. Even though she does "skin and grin" a little too much on her talk show for my taste. Many black celebs are scared of alienating white people and to be seen as some radical pro-black militant to address such issues.

I'm curious on other black men's views on the behavior of the girls at Allanah's party.

I personally like curvy, small waisted black and latina TS's and usually can do alright at the parties. I am tall, attractive, work out and dress nice so I get a good response. However, I notice the asian and the hi-fashion, assimilated latinas seem to treat brothers like the Invisible Man. I think I had one asian tranny show interest in me once at a Glorya Wholesome party three years ago. However, I could see she was one of these hip-hop lovin, size queen types, so it figured. Her "Soul Train" dance moves and crotch watching gave it away. Her two friends where more typical though. I'm just curious if some of the other brothers on the board have any interesting observations or experiences to share about the TS parties they've attended.Military and "Providers":

Go hand in hand and one normally follows the other like rats to grain. While the United States military never went as far as Japan and setting up "Comfort Houses" (basically forced pros***), it has known that men away from home for long periods of time do need "comfort". You should see some of the training films/books for WWII and other wars speaking of pros** and diseases that can be caught if a sailor/soilder was not careful.

Usually there was a sort of heirachy of providers, with the most classy and or European looking/acting reserved for officers, mid level girls for enlisted men, and "hood rats" for everyone else.

The reason pros follow the military is obvious, men away from home, with needs and steady pay checks.

As for racist attitudes, one has to remember that even with the draft, even the Vietnam war was not a racially "happy" group. You had lots of good old southern and mid-west boys, not to mention working class sons from the East and West coast, who while they themselves may fancy a non-white girl, would be damned if they were going to lay with a woman after she had been with a black guy. In fact *ni*** loving providers could find themselves the subject of verbal and sometimes physical abuse.

The other thing at work is many girls know that the quickest way to becoming an US citizen is to marry an American military man. If they can get a nice blue eyed/blone "Johnny" to marry them, well they are set (or so they think). Off to America to life a life in the surburbs, or what they think life in America is like for American women/wives. Heck guess if one was living in a shanty town outside of Havanna, ANYTHING in America would look good.

Another cultural thing about Hispanic culture, which another poster mentioned is that many Spanish cultures place a high value on European/White/Spanish (I'm talking Madrid, not Havanna), culture. From Cuba, to South America, to Mexico light/blonde/European persons are looked upon as "better" in many of these cultures. Watch the novellas on Univison or Telemundo and you will see black or dark persons far and few between. The few black latinas one does see are STUNNING, but the men are usually gansters (sound familar). You see this reflected in the adverts many Hispanic providers, including trannies run. Many bleach their hair, alter their looks with surgery, and use English/European names to make themselves appear "white".

What is funny about providers turning down blk men, is that so many seem to take their ideas about life from rap music/videos. Now am almost willing to bet men like Usher have no problem with women in real life, but from the looks of things trannies would turn him down money, body and all.

IMHO, think many of these providers run their business like a personal dating service, with a huge list of guys they won't see. Italians, Jews, Chinese, Blacks, Latinos, "Old Men", Short men, Disabled, Non-English speaking, Indian, Arab, and basically any man who is not white, between the ages of 18 and 40 (maybe 50 if well maintained), good looking, and not too demanding. Any minus in one area (such as money) can be corrected by better than average looks/body, and or the promise (hardly ever kept) of seeing the girl again and or taking her out on a real date.

Now as far as business models go, the above does not seem like a winner. However as long as guys are willing to shell out $300 and up for basically 15 minutes of time, guess many will make a good living from it.

The last laugh comes when providers start to age out of the business, and are no longer the "new girl in town", and have to work harder to make less than they used to. That is whey then often wish ANYONE would call/pick them at a party, but sadly even the old timers are going after the new young things, and blowing them off.

Some guy once told me a sad story about the "older" Playmates, Penthouse Pets, porn stars and other women who hang out at the Playboy mansion parties and similar events in the hopes of making some money/meeting a guy. Now these were hot girls back in their day, which for many was their late teens through early twenties, who could pick and choose "dates". Now they are yesterday's news and yes, even the older guys are after the new girls on the block. Every now and then someone throws one of these girls a bone, but nothing like they were used to making.

Moral of the story is, dudes don't sweat girls who aren't worth sweating. Time will come when they will step up to you with "remember me" , and you can simply say, "yeah, but you are blocking my view, step aside".

[Jamie Michelle]

I rode on and sucked quite a number of beautiful black cocks, including having my ass filled with loads and loads of man-cream from hard black cocks (i.e., me being fucked bareback by my black lovers). I've never had any problems with any of the black men I've been with. They've always treated me well.

Indeed, as far as sexual involvement with men qua men go, my best experiences have been with black men. We always seemed to be able to have something of a connection with each other, i.e., an understanding of each other, i.e., connecting with each other on an intellectual and emotional level. I believe the reason this is the case is because given the history of black chattle slavery in the U.S. (enforced as it was by the U.S. government), as well as the following oppression of blacks by the U.S. government, blacks tend to be more skeptical of government than whites. Thus, this critical outlook (Weltanschauung) gives me something to connect with more than is typical of whites.

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To recount just one of my experiences with black men, when I was around age 21 I used to live in a black neighborhood in Austin, Texas with some fellow black and gay crackheads of mine in a rather nice duplex (hey, they were gay, so they kept the place up, even though they were crackheads). We had one rich Mexican guy that always used to come over on the weekends. I was the only white person in the entire neighborhood, except for those just dropping in to score some crack. This Mexican guy would stay usually two days with us, and spend around $1,000 smoking us all out. He always drove up in a different car. But he was fat. The guy would be sweating up a storm and geeking like his head was about to explode. He liked to get high and be fucked by black cock. I don't recall ever hearing a word of English out of him.

Like I said, this was a duplex. In the residence connected to ours lived a lady crack-dealer. She herself didn't smoke, and probably for that reason and the fact that we were next-door neighbors, we got some of the best deals on crack around that area. And the crack she used to cook up was the white crystal stuff. Not quite as good as the butter stuff, but it was still damn good and better than you'd find most any place else. We're talking ear-ringer stuff, everytime.

I guess the reason I was allowed to stay there was because I was the fuck-buddy of one young (around age 28) black guy renting a room there (there were three black guys officially living there, two were boyfriends and the other was my guy). All of these gay black guys living there seemed to me to be rather middle-class and preppy.

My said black fuck-buddy had around a 7" cock. Not nearly as big as some of the black cocks I've been fucked by (the biggest being a true 11" and very thick). But, boy, he fucked my ass better than anyone I've ever had fucking my ass. It felt wonderful. I was always the "bottom" with him.

Fun times, but I don't like the feeling of being habituated to anything, so I had to give that lifestyle up.

[ARMANIXXX]

I think you some of you guys are forgetting that black men do seem to have a plentiful pick of white women.

[Quinn]

The last laugh comes when providers start to age out of the business, and are no longer the "new girl in town", and have to work harder to make less than they used to. That is whey then often wish ANYONE would call/pick them at a party, but sadly even the old timers are going after the new young things, and blowing them off.


The vast majority of women who escort do, in fact, suffer this fate. Given that few of them plan adequately for their future, it is quite unfortunate.

-Quinn