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MrsKellyPierce
11-07-2007, 07:25 AM
Things I hate about people that think they know everything about being a transexual.


1) They will stick to an opinion no matter how many times you explain to them. And they keep asking you to explain but will disagree.

2) You will give them text book description/dictionary description. Yet they still disagree!

3) They base a whole group on a few people they have met.

4) They feel they are superior cause they don't have the same problem, but in turn really have their own issues that are no better and no worse.

5) I'll add more later lol

Feel free to add yours

MrsKellyPierce
11-07-2007, 07:37 AM
Things I hate about people that think they know everything about being a transexual.


1) They will stick to an opinion no matter how many times you explain to them. And they keep asking you to explain but will disagree.

2) You will give them text book description/dictionary description. Yet they still disagree!

3) They base a whole group on a few people they have met.

4) They feel they are superior cause they don't have the same problem, but in turn really have their own issues that are no better and no worse.

5) I'll add more later lol

Feel free to add yours Transexualism starts in the brain. Being a woman/man is between the ears!

MrsKellyPierce
11-07-2007, 07:40 AM
We didn't achieve the status of 'Certified Tranny Expert' for nothing you know. :D Yes some of you did, just for posting pics. Just because a girl has boobs doesn't make her a transexual either!

MrsKellyPierce
11-07-2007, 08:04 AM
Guys that treat us like science projects or talk to us all weird making us feel uncomfortable when they meet us.

You treat us like any other girl there is no difference. Good lord this has to be the biggest mistake guys make and why they get DISMISSED.

lust4ts
11-07-2007, 08:52 AM
I agree, when I came here I was a cockbandit chaser posting pics until my fingers hurt.

Now I couldn't give a shit if I never meet a Transsexual again, I don't mean this in a negative way but instead that my desire to be with a transsexual is no more than with a GG. I still find them just as attractive but no longer feel the slightest need for my girlfriend to have a cock, if it happens, it happens but I am happy dating whatever girl I find attractive at the time, genitals don't come into it anymore

I don't claim to be an expert, shit where I live it would be rare to even see a crossdresser let alone a TG, a hot one near impossible and I'm cool with that.

Instead of the cock pics I now come here because this is the best forum I have posted on, I enjoy learning insightful things this place has to offer, it has the most diverse and interesting people, oh and there is always lots of drama :wink:

And yes “Certified Tranny Expert” does not mean shit, as you say Kelly someone can easily reach a thousand posts in the realms of the "Mushroom Head Cocks" threads and such without ever getting involved in anything meaningful or educational.

I can sincerely say I have not watched TS porn for ages, or any porn actually and I’m just happy knowing that I no longer see Transsexuals as objects purely for my sexual gratification but now as just people who I am open to have relationships with if one I find attractive and click with happens to enter my life, but I’m certainly not going to lose any sleep if it does not happen.

So I will keep coming here and learning and try my best to be a good and fair person when it comes to how I treat and view women in general, transsexual or not!

MrsKellyPierce
11-07-2007, 09:01 AM
I like you lust4ts you are an awesome guy

justatransgirl
11-07-2007, 10:38 AM
Expert - pronounced "ex-spurt" which is a former drip under pressure...

I think it's very hard to change the opinion of people with closed minds. And the stereotypes are ingrained and will take time to alter, if ever.

It's like my thread on the gay magazine article - the same GLBT publication has stuck their foot in their mouth about once a year on trans issues. They just dont' "get it."

Sigh,
TS Jamie :-)

MrsKellyPierce
11-07-2007, 04:38 PM
Things I hate about people that think they know everything about being a transexual.


1) They will stick to an opinion no matter how many times you explain to them. And they keep asking you to explain but will disagree.

2) You will give them text book description/dictionary description. Yet they still disagree!

3) They base a whole group on a few people they have met.

4) They feel they are superior cause they don't have the same problem, but in turn really have their own issues that are no better and no worse.

5) I'll add more later lol

Feel free to add yours

well put.

Blacks can relate

Jews can relate

Hispanics can relate

Gays can relate

Women can relate

What you describe is what minorities and the powerless around the world have experienced and in many places continue to experience.

Very well put.Thank you dear :D

CORVETTEDUDE
11-07-2007, 04:55 PM
Sorry, M77, but "Certified Tranny Expert", is merely a label...and, in no way expresses the level of knowledge and expertise of the holder. I have, as well as you, the girls and 'ANY' casual observor, experienced posts by some so called "CTEs" that don't qualify to be a zit on a gnat's ass.

I enjoy being here, enjoy the interaction with almost everyone here, and am grateful I am allowed to participate. In no way, am I an "Expert". There is something I am an expert at, but this ain't it!!!

Now....I have to go to work....later.

PghTGrlLvr
11-07-2007, 05:16 PM
Hey Folks,
Don't claim to be an expert at anything, my main thoughts on Tgirls is WHY do they continue to try and alter their appearance? I truly think that your either naturally passable or you probably shouldn't be trying to.
Kelly, you were always a very attractive girl. I don't understand why you felt the need to have surgery. Regular GG's are just that...regular. Not perfect (fake looking) plastic dolls.
I don't know who is giving these girls such advice. Alexia Norgurea was a knock out when she had the shorter reddish/brown hair and small chest. Suddenly a pinched nose and a boob job.
Ana Paula Botelho also has had some face work done by the looks of it and a boob job.
Allanah, God love her needs to stop. Her upper lip looks like it gonna explode soon.
As I said I don't claim to be an expert or anything, but please...except your natural beauty, there are alot of real women out there that are barely passable in the looks department.
And as Kelley opened this conversation "Being a women begins betwwen the ears. Not your face or your crotch. Having a vagina won't make you a woman it will only make you look like a female.
Sorry to go on and on...........

MrsKellyPierce
11-07-2007, 05:22 PM
Allow me to explain that to you.

Every transexual girl has an image in their head what they want their outside appearance to appear like. Like any other female or male. We look to magizines and Stars. But we also want to be able to pass well in the community for work and other reasons. A lot of the times the flaws we see aren't noticeable by others, but we see them and it makes us cringe every time we look in the mirror.

I do not plan on going in for a 1000 surgeries or going for the plastic doll look. I am happy with what I have done to be perfectly honest.

PghTGrlLvr
11-07-2007, 05:29 PM
And yes, lust4ts makes some excellent points. It is definitly one thing to fantasize about being with a Tgirl sexually, although having a LTR would not be a cake walk. There would be many complex issues to deal with, although if you love someone you work at things as a team and with unconditional love and understanding. I've been married 26 yrs. to a girl I met in '77. Believe me that ain't easy either!! LOL

Night Rider
11-07-2007, 05:31 PM
PghTGrlLvr that's a little bit too honest

Allanah's lips are hot and Kelly definately hasn't went overboard

...but ur entitled to ur opinion

PghTGrlLvr
11-07-2007, 05:33 PM
Good for you Kelly and thanks for the reply. I understand all to well about seeing yourself and the things you see. I'm a little chunky right now and I CAN'T STAND IT. Nothing on the same level as you girls I know. Going out to work etc. and feeling comfortable would be EXTREMELY difficult. Thinking people are eyeballing you would suck. I understand it gotta be a bitch.

PghTGrlLvr
11-07-2007, 05:36 PM
Night Rider,
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think Allanah is super hot and no I don't think Kelly has gone overboard. I just don't think surgery is the answer. I'm no genius, just offering my opinion.

TSCURIOUS
11-07-2007, 05:39 PM
People should do (and be able to do) whatever makes them happy as a person. It's not up to me, or anyone else to "analyze" why they do what they do and when they should stop. If someone else doesn't like it or accept it - they should keep their opinions to themselves and shut up! Life is to short.
Kelly - As I said yesterday - you're smoking no matter what you do-

Night Rider
11-07-2007, 05:41 PM
Night Rider,
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think Allanah is super hot and no I don't think Kelly has gone overboard. I just don't think surgery is the answer. I'm no genius, just offering my opinion.

I know where ur coming from..

True beauty is on the inside but we all have insecurities about our physical appearance, it's just human nature.

I'm with u in that i don't like the 'plastic fantastic' look, but i don't think Allanah or Kelly are in that category as u'll probably agree.

PghTGrlLvr
11-07-2007, 05:46 PM
Night Rider, I heartily agree. Kelly had very minor work done she didn't alter her natural girl look much at all, just a little tweeking. Allanah's upper lip is my only concern with her appearance. She is stunning as always.

Ecstatic
11-07-2007, 05:47 PM
Expert - pronounced "ex-spurt" which is a former drip under pressure...
:lol: :lol: :lol: Great line, Jamie!

Great points, Kelly. On target!

PghTGrlLvr
11-07-2007, 05:51 PM
Believe me people, I'm not here to step on anyones toes or burst anybody's bubble. I'm just an old country boy (46) that's been married forever, raised 3 great boys, knows many gays, lesbians, and a tgirl or two personally and is just asking questions and offering some advice for what it's worth.

Wombat
11-07-2007, 05:58 PM
Expert - pronounced "ex-spurt" which is a former drip under pressure...

Sigh,
TS Jamie :-)

Haven't heard that one in a while, one of our engineers used it all the time. :D
You forgot the bit about the ex, x being the unknown factor. :wink:

needsum
11-21-2007, 10:34 PM
They way I see it, if you're NOT a transsexual and you feel have an opinion on the matter, then you need to check yourself. How can your opinion be real if you don't have a first hand understanding of what it means to be a transsexual?

Now I'm a supporter of transsexual women and men. I support, applaud, and in many cases desire them, but I certainly don't make any claims to know what they're dealing with as human beings. But I give each and every single one of them credit for doing what they feel they need to do in order to be comfortable in their own skin. Be it surgery, hormones, or a wig and a dress, it takes courage beyond what most of us guys could ever muster to make such a change in a society as cruel and unforgiving as ours tends to be.

And I don't think that any one of us has the right to draw an opinion on them for it, no matter what that opinion may be.

Thanks just my two cents. :2cent

crayons
11-21-2007, 10:39 PM
someone can easily reach a thousand posts in the realms of the "Mushroom Head Cocks" threads and such without ever getting involved in anything meaningful or educational.



Can you post some? Just so we know what exactly you consider a "mushroom head cock". And yes to the rest of whatever you said.

JANIRA
11-21-2007, 11:21 PM
Omg Kelly im so with you on this i hate peopel that think we are Transsexuals for these reasons : ( WE WANT STRAIGHT MEN),, ( WE DIDNT CUT IT AS ABOY AND WERE BORED AND DID IT FOR FUN) , ( OUR PARENTS DIDNT RAISE US UNPROPERLY) , ( WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE BREATS) ( WE DID IT FOR TEH HEL OF IT). I mean if people only knew and could walk in a Transsexuals shoes to know the real deal , and how much balls and gull it takes to deal with all the obsticeles we have delt with and are still dealing with. Not many men could do what we have done, and survived ,and still be standing,, if any at all !

MrsKellyPierce
11-21-2007, 11:55 PM
Omg Kelly im so with you on this i hate peopel that think we are Transsexuals for these reasons : ( WE WANT STRAIGHT MEN),, ( WE DIDNT CUT IT AS ABOY AND WERE BORED AND DID IT FOR FUN) , ( OUR PARENTS DIDNT RAISE US UNPROPERLY) , ( WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE BREATS) ( WE DID IT FOR TEH HEL OF IT). I mean if people only knew and could walk in a Transsexuals shoes to know the real deal , and how much balls and gull it takes to deal with all the obsticeles we have delt with and are still dealing with. Not many men could do what we have done, and survived ,and still be standing,, if any at all ! very well said!!!!

JANIRA
11-22-2007, 12:01 AM
opps,, sprry for the typos,,,,lol i ment( OUR PARENTS RAISED US UNPROPERLY)...

Legend
11-22-2007, 12:08 AM
Come on kelly,i thought if someone only sees escorts once or twice it makes them a instant expert.

Hazel Tucker
11-22-2007, 12:23 AM
I agree, when I came here I was a cockbandit chaser posting pics until my fingers hurt.

Now I couldn't give a shit if I never meet a Transsexual again, I don't mean this in a negative way but instead that my desire to be with a transsexual is no more than with a GG. I still find them just as attractive but no longer feel the slightest need for my girlfriend to have a cock, if it happens, it happens but I am happy dating whatever girl I find attractive at the time, genitals don't come into it anymore

I don't claim to be an expert, shit where I live it would be rare to even see a crossdresser let alone a TG, a hot one near impossible and I'm cool with that.

Instead of the cock pics I now come here because this is the best forum I have posted on, I enjoy learning insightful things this place has to offer, it has the most diverse and interesting people, oh and there is always lots of drama :wink:

And yes “Certified Tranny Expert” does not mean shit, as you say Kelly someone can easily reach a thousand posts in the realms of the "Mushroom Head Cocks" threads and such without ever getting involved in anything meaningful or educational.

I can sincerely say I have not watched TS porn for ages, or any porn actually and I’m just happy knowing that I no longer see Transsexuals as objects purely for my sexual gratification but now as just people who I am open to have relationships with if one I find attractive and click with happens to enter my life, but I’m certainly not going to lose any sleep if it does not happen.

So I will keep coming here and learning and try my best to be a good and fair person when it comes to how I treat and view women in general, transsexual or not!



AMEN TO THAT! WOOOOHOOOO! :D

MrsKellyPierce
11-22-2007, 12:45 AM
I just get annoyed. It takes more than just surgeries and hormones to make a transexual woman. It takes confidence, a blind ear on what others think, persaverance, and saviness. Also living with out worry that someone will hurt you for your decision. There are many girls that transition, and many girls that don't make it because of these REASONS.

TJ347
11-22-2007, 01:37 AM
Kelly, all I have to say having seen the many topics you've created of late is that someone needs to go out forthwith and GET LAID!!!

Seriously though, I understand, as I'm sure we all do by now given the numerous times you've said the exact same things over the past several months, how annoyed you are with the way all men treat transsexuals, the way all men are untrustworthy, the way all men are evil... But couldn't you simply combine all of that anger into a single thread and spare us the self-pitying whining?

I mean, you have your points here and there, but the fact is that you (among many others) generalize men as much as any man here generalizes transsexuals, and I fail to see what you think you'll accomplish by repeatedly saying the same things over and over again, when your target audience is primarily composed of guys who are so socially inept they're virtual shut-ins and have overwhelmingly never even met a TS besides, closeted homosexuals trying to ingratiate themselves with you in the hope you'll top them for free or at a substantially reduced rate, and guys who consistently reply "Beautiful and brians, too! Got any cock pics?" or such to nearly every post made by any woman here, evidencing the fact that they couldn't care less what any of you have to say about anything so long as you're showing some T&A.

I'd really like to know what you believe the benefits are to threads such as the ones you've put up lately, if that's not asking too much.

MrsKellyPierce
11-22-2007, 06:01 AM
Kelly, all I have to say having seen the many topics you've created of late is that someone needs to go out forthwith and GET LAID!!!

Seriously though, I understand, as I'm sure we all do by now given the numerous times you've said the exact same things over the past several months, how annoyed you are with the way all men treat transsexuals, the way all men are untrustworthy, the way all men are evil... But couldn't you simply combine all of that anger into a single thread and spare us the self-pitying whining?

I mean, you have your points here and there, but the fact is that you (among many others) generalize men as much as any man here generalizes transsexuals, and I fail to see what you think you'll accomplish by repeatedly saying the same things over and over again, when your target audience is primarily composed of guys who are so socially inept they're virtual shut-ins and have overwhelmingly never even met a TS besides, closeted homosexuals trying to ingratiate themselves with you in the hope you'll top them for free or at a substantially reduced rate, and guys who consistently reply "Beautiful and brians, too! Got any cock pics?" or such to nearly every post made by any woman here, evidencing the fact that they couldn't care less what any of you have to say about anything so long as you're showing some T&A.

I'd really like to know what you believe the benefits are to threads such as the ones you've put up lately, if that's not asking too much. NO I'll keep saying it till I get my point across to lamers. And I was talking people in general too.

lust4ts
11-22-2007, 09:21 AM
I agree, when I came here I was a cockbandit chaser posting pics until my fingers hurt.

Now I couldn't give a shit if I never meet a Transsexual again, I don't mean this in a negative way but instead that my desire to be with a transsexual is no more than with a GG. I still find them just as attractive but no longer feel the slightest need for my girlfriend to have a cock, if it happens, it happens but I am happy dating whatever girl I find attractive at the time, genitals don't come into it anymore

I don't claim to be an expert, shit where I live it would be rare to even see a crossdresser let alone a TG, a hot one near impossible and I'm cool with that.

Instead of the cock pics I now come here because this is the best forum I have posted on, I enjoy learning insightful things this place has to offer, it has the most diverse and interesting people, oh and there is always lots of drama :wink:

And yes “Certified Tranny Expert” does not mean shit, as you say Kelly someone can easily reach a thousand posts in the realms of the "Mushroom Head Cocks" threads and such without ever getting involved in anything meaningful or educational.

I can sincerely say I have not watched TS porn for ages, or any porn actually and I’m just happy knowing that I no longer see Transsexuals as objects purely for my sexual gratification but now as just people who I am open to have relationships with if one I find attractive and click with happens to enter my life, but I’m certainly not going to lose any sleep if it does not happen.

So I will keep coming here and learning and try my best to be a good and fair person when it comes to how I treat and view women in general, transsexual or not!



AMEN TO THAT! WOOOOHOOOO! :D

Damn I forgot I wrote that, short memory :roll:

Yep that's exactly how I feel, oh cute one :wink:

TJ347
11-22-2007, 03:59 PM
Kelly, all I have to say having seen the many topics you've created of late is that someone needs to go out forthwith and GET LAID!!!

Seriously though, I understand, as I'm sure we all do by now given the numerous times you've said the exact same things over the past several months, how annoyed you are with the way all men treat transsexuals, the way all men are untrustworthy, the way all men are evil... But couldn't you simply combine all of that anger into a single thread and spare us the self-pitying whining?

I mean, you have your points here and there, but the fact is that you (among many others) generalize men as much as any man here generalizes transsexuals, and I fail to see what you think you'll accomplish by repeatedly saying the same things over and over again, when your target audience is primarily composed of guys who are so socially inept they're virtual shut-ins and have overwhelmingly never even met a TS besides, closeted homosexuals trying to ingratiate themselves with you in the hope you'll top them for free or at a substantially reduced rate, and guys who consistently reply "Beautiful and brians, too! Got any cock pics?" or such to nearly every post made by any woman here, evidencing the fact that they couldn't care less what any of you have to say about anything so long as you're showing some T&A.

I'd really like to know what you believe the benefits are to threads such as the ones you've put up lately, if that's not asking too much. NO I'll keep saying it till I get my point across to lamers. And I was talking people in general too.

My point was that if the people you're trying to reach haven't gotten it by now, then they never will. But, if it makes you happy, carry on...

KiraHarden
11-22-2007, 04:28 PM
Omg Kelly im so with you on this i hate peopel that think we are Transsexuals for these reasons : ( WE WANT STRAIGHT MEN),, ( WE DIDNT CUT IT AS ABOY AND WERE BORED AND DID IT FOR FUN) , ( OUR PARENTS DIDNT RAISE US UNPROPERLY) , ( WE JUST WANTED TO HAVE BREATS) ( WE DID IT FOR TEH HEL OF IT). I mean if people only knew and could walk in a Transsexuals shoes to know the real deal , and how much balls and gull it takes to deal with all the obsticeles we have delt with and are still dealing with. Not many men could do what we have done, and survived ,and still be standing,, if any at all !Great post. :)
No one will truly understand us and what we go thru. They can try, and I respect the people who are there for us, but only our sisters will understand.

I transitioned at work, and that was the scariest day in my life when I came out to my co workers. Just to get to that day alone takes a inner strength, that few know of. Many girls must have this, or they will never get thru transition. Thats why we have the Life test.

yodajazz
11-22-2007, 07:01 PM
No one will truly understand us and what we go thru. They can try, and I respect the people who are there for us, but only our sisters will understand.

I transitioned at work, and that was the scariest day in my life when I came out to my co workers. Just to get to that day alone takes a inner strength, that few know of. Many girls must have this, or they will never get thru transition. Thats why we have the Life test.

There are two sides to this. On one hand no one can know anyone else’s total experiences. You don’t know what I’ve been through either. But the other side is that everyone has the same feelings on one level or another, especially if you explain how you feel. If the person is empathetic enough, they can put themselves in another’s place. I could feel what you say about transitioning at work, because I have been scared before. We all deal with fears in our lives. In this case you dealt with your fear by facing it, and I commend you for it. You said that it was the scariest day in your life and I believe that you said you spend time in the military. I spent time in the military and was I scared there a couple of times. So according to your post, it was scarier coming out at work than anything in the military. I have to respect your words.

I understand on this forum many people make blanket assumptions about transsexuals as a class of people, but there are many people who have a good level of understanding. I my case, I have had education in the study of human behavior and have a BA degree in Sociology. I am licensed by my state to practice Social Work. So I am supposed to be able to understand a wide range of human behaviors, in order to assist their functioning. That’s my other career, besides music.

Some of what I see on this forum is that ts women have to face the same issues as other women. They may be to a more difficult degree, but they are still the same issue. The one that comes to mind is which men just want sexual relationships, and which men want more. A Black female, who goes to a predominately White college, but wants to date Black males there might have similar issues to ts women in that situation.

A ts woman being involved in sex work, can be a serious relationship issue. But I venture to say that it is the sex work part that is the more serious issue. This would be the same with any other woman.

To sum it up, another recent thread was about transsexuals being human. I believe this to be very true. So yes, you are unique, but ultimately all your experiences are human experiences and we are all in this life together.

peggygee
11-22-2007, 11:46 PM
your target audience is primarily composed of guys who are so socially inept they're virtual shut-ins and have overwhelmingly never even met a TS besides, closeted homosexuals trying to ingratiate themselves with you in the hope you'll top them for free or at a substantially reduced rate, and guys who consistently reply "Beautiful and brains, too! Got any cock pics?" or such to nearly every post made by any woman here, evidencing the fact that they couldn't care less what any of you have to say about anything so long as you're showing some T&A.



Ouch! :shrug

TJ347
11-28-2007, 05:14 AM
Sorry... :oops:

But really, am I wrong? I mean, you've seen it a million times here by now in virtually every thread in which a woman posts... A kissass or two (or more) with bottom fantasies running through their minds can't help but say "You're so beautiful... I'll let you bang me all day every day baby!"... and meanwhile, the thread's dealing with the death of a well known TS from yesteryear. TTB! :smh

JamesHunt
11-28-2007, 05:27 AM
Please just leave it alone. Maybe you can imagine, but that's all you can do. You simply don't know how we feel or what we go through, no matter how good your intentions are.

Just out of curiosity, what would your attitude be towards guys that aren't particularly interested in all the shit you go through? I know this may come across as cold, but he just liked you as a person. Sure, he's talk aboutm your struggle to become the woman you want to be, but as far as the relationship goes, it's irrelavent from his point of view

peggygee
11-28-2007, 05:34 AM
Sorry... :oops:

But really, am I wrong? I mean, you've seen it a million times here by now in virtually every thread in which a woman posts... A kissass or two (or more) with bottom fantasies running through their minds can't help but say "You're so beautiful... I'll let you bang me all day every day baby!"... and meanwhile, the thread's dealing with the death of a well known TS from yesteryear. TTB! :smh

Oh no boo, not wrong at all.

Tell the truth, shame the devil. :wink:

JamesHunt
11-28-2007, 06:02 AM
I did say that it's best to just leave it alone,
Exactly :roll:

GIA LOVES RON
11-28-2007, 06:11 AM
Very accurate post Kelly. Go girl!

ironx
11-28-2007, 10:10 AM
Things I hate about people that think they know everything about being a transexual.


1) They will stick to an opinion no matter how many times you explain to them. And they keep asking you to explain but will disagree.

2) You will give them text book description/dictionary description. Yet they still disagree!

3) They base a whole group on a few people they have met.

4) They feel they are superior cause they don't have the same problem, but in turn really have their own issues that are no better and no worse.

5) I'll add more later lol

Feel free to add yours

Kelly... darling

I think this song says it all... people are way to obsessed with what others are thinking of them... and way to obsessed with telling what they think of others.. without thinking..

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