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justatransgirl
10-31-2007, 02:11 AM
The following was just posted to the TASC group in San Diego.

So I guess we will be packing our bags for New Zealand or Canada soon.

Sigh,
TS Jamie :-)



ENDA Update

from Mara Keisling, Executive Director

Tuesday October 30, 2007


There hasn't been much in the way of news to report. We are beginning
the sixth week of this ENDA situation or crisis or opportunity. A huge
amount of education has been done. Quite actually tens of thousands
of people have been engaged. And we are basically where we were at the
beginning-our best allies in Congress with strong support from HRC
still seem determined to jam a civil rights bill through the House of
Representatives that virtually every LGBT organization, including HRC,
says they do not want.

Because of the Congressional calendar for this fall, we are one way or
another coming to resolution. At least for now.

My best estimation is that sometime today (possibly even before you
read this) or tomorrow a decision will be made by House leadership as
to whether to run H.R. 3685 and whether to first allow the Baldwin
Amendment to be debated and/or voted on.

Until then, we are encouraging all of our members to visit their local
Congressperson today or tomorrow to express one last time the need to
pass a unified ENDA. We must convey the need to stop the divisive HR
3685 and move a unified ENDA or nothing. Mend it or end it. Fix it
or nix it.

At this point in the train wreck though, the truth is that no real
victory is possible for anyone-not this round. If they pass the
divided and divisive bill, the vast majority of us in LGBT-land are
disappointed. We are not and will not be divided because very few LGBT
organizations are not on the United ENDA side in this. Some fringe-we
are almost the whole cloth of the community. More importantly, our
collective federal, state, and local work is set back years. No ENDA,
despite how hard the House leadership tries to push the divisive ENDA
at us, is going to become law this year. There is no incremental gain
possible. First, the bill will not be signed into law thus no gain,
and second, the incremental gain would be most like the incremental
gain promised when Don't Ask Don't Tell was similarly shoved down the
throats of a, to say the least, reluctant LGBT community. Mere weeks
and months after that fiasco, it was clear to almost everyone what a
harmful ill-conceived increment that was. About 15 years of work still
hasn't undone that damage.

We know that the unified and inclusive bill (H.R. 2015) is off the
table for this year, so passing that is very much not an option at
this point. The Baldwin Amendment is apparently off the table. But
even if the Amendment were still open for discussion, some LGBT
supporters in Congress and our community have done such a thorough job
of undermining the work that we all have been doing that it has become
barely a long shot to pass it. [Still, as of now, it is unclear if the
Baldwin Amendment would be allowed by House leadership. One thought
is that Ms. Baldwin may be permitted to introduce her Amendment and
speak on its behalf, then withdraw it prior to a vote. On the one
hand, having Tammy Baldwin and other supporters speak about the need
for gender identity protections would be helpful in concept; on the
other hand, it would unlikely be sufficiently helpful to undo the
damage caused by passing the divisive bill minutes later.]

If the bill is pulled for now so that we can work together on a
unified bill, that too is hardly a victory. Relationships have been
strained tremendously, resources and political capital have been
expended needlessly and we all go back to square one minus several.
However, this is still the best option. Our goal has to be moving the
ball forward to pass a bill that will protect all of us and until the
divisive bill has been pulled from consideration, we cannot begin
again working together to pass such a unified bill

Any victory by anyone at this point would be utterly pyrrhic.

The only victory to come from this crisis has been the advancement
(albeit incremental) of the LGBT community message of solidarity and
willingness to step up for social justice. Hundreds of organizations
and tens of thousands of individuals have spoken strongly and clearly
about the need for us to stick together to have the best chance of
winning protections for all of us. That is a huge win. And I will be
forever grateful for that.


Mara Keisling
Executive Director
National Center for Transgender Equality

peggygee
10-31-2007, 03:53 AM
The only victory to come from this crisis has been the advancement
(albeit incremental) of the LGBT community message of solidarity and
willingness to step up for social justice. Hundreds of organizations
and tens of thousands of individuals have spoken strongly and clearly
about the need for us to stick together to have the best chance of
winning protections for all of us. That is a huge win. And I will be
forever grateful for that.


Mara Keisling
Executive Director
National Center for Transgender Equality

Wars are won one battle a a time.

A victory indeed.

BrendaQG
10-31-2007, 03:59 AM
A temporary setback I hope. In a year and a half we will have a democrat for president and a democrat congress and a society that is ready for this kind of change. 18 months is not so long to wait.

Let's just hope that the democrats don't disappoint us.

whatsupwithat
10-31-2007, 04:20 AM
thanks for the update. a bit disheartened by the whole process, myself. one would think that by now we would have advanced as a society...one would think.

justatransgirl
10-31-2007, 06:54 AM
Yeah, it's sad.

I went to a meeting tonight at the GLBT Center in San Diego to how the G&L community is to include the "T" in the ENDA debacle. All the major gay and trans groups in the city were represented as well as HRC and our local Congressmans office.

With the single exception of HRC all organizations are with us. There were a couple of lesbians who spoke who were obviously not on board. Why is it always the lesbians? Are we a threat to their womanhood?

I spoke briefly and was well received. Discussing how a lack of ENDA often results in trans youth getting on the streets into and sex work. And the fact which is often missed that many of us are in same sex relationships and like it or not we are part of the G&L community and how selling out the trans community is actually selling out the G&L comunity itself.

Overall it was productive and San Diego is standing together toward a united ENDA.

Hugs to our sisters and brothers and advocates and admirers.
TS Jamie :-)

BrendaQG
10-31-2007, 07:22 AM
I spoke briefly and was well received. Discussing how a lack of ENDA often results in trans youth getting on the streets into and sex work.

Ahh but any attention paid to the plight of such trans youth's has for the past many years been met with protest. In favor of images of trans youths going to college and being totally accepted there, as if that were common.

As a community we have only ourselves to blame for this. Our activists priorities have been all wrong for a long time.

whatsupwithat
10-31-2007, 08:42 AM
I spoke briefly and was well received. Discussing how a lack of ENDA often results in trans youth getting on the streets into and sex work.

Ahh but any attention paid to the plight of such trans youth's has for the past many years been met with protest. In favor of images of trans youths going to college and being totally accepted there, as if that were common.

As a community we have only ourselves to blame for this. Our activists priorities have been all wrong for a long time.

that is so spot on.

the activists are all about showing a positive image instead of the real image. the pc pisses me off to no end. how can change be made if we don't deal with what is real?

whatsupwithat
10-31-2007, 08:43 AM
Yeah, it's sad.

I went to a meeting tonight at the GLBT Center in San Diego to how the G&L community is to include the "T" in the ENDA debacle. All the major gay and trans groups in the city were represented as well as HRC and our local Congressmans office.

With the single exception of HRC all organizations are with us. There were a couple of lesbians who spoke who were obviously not on board. Why is it always the lesbians? Are we a threat to their womanhood?

I spoke briefly and was well received. Discussing how a lack of ENDA often results in trans youth getting on the streets into and sex work. And the fact which is often missed that many of us are in same sex relationships and like it or not we are part of the G&L community and how selling out the trans community is actually selling out the G&L comunity itself.

Overall it was productive and San Diego is standing together toward a united ENDA.

Hugs to our sisters and brothers and advocates and admirers.
TS Jamie :-)

hugs to you, jamie. for being there for all of us. :)

SarahG
10-31-2007, 09:09 AM
In a year and a half we will have a democrat for president and a democrat congress and a society that is ready for this kind of change. 18 months is not so long to wait.

Let's just hope that the democrats don't disappoint us.

I wish I could be that optimistic, the cynical part of my brain is having a very hard time picturing either Hillary or Obama winning in 08. I also fear that if Hillary wins the election, the result will be wide spread mobilization of the righties in the country due to their passionate hatred of her.

But maybe, just maybe, that won't happen. We certainly didn't see much of that mobilization in 04 against Bush despite his (much larger) widespread hatred... certainly nothing compared to what happened on the part of righties in 11 states incl Ohio...

At least the republicans are divided up well. Everyone knows the white supremacist ron paul is a wacko, Mccaine is fairly dead in the water at the moment, the christians won't back Giuliani... its Thompson that scares me.

Not so much because of his views (which I take issue to) but because people seem to like him and consider voting for him without a clue what he stands for. Given the others I think he is the republican with a bigger chance in the primaries... if mccaine stays with it I wouldn't be surprised if he still has trouble 8 yrs later from those callathons in some key red states back in the 00 primaries.

Then becomes the larger issue of what will happen on the long run given the bush apointees on the Supreme court

SarahG
10-31-2007, 09:17 AM
Why is it always the lesbians?

That one I have always been curious about. If anything, those proliferating the lumberjack lesbian image have the most to gain of the lgb group when dealing with gender expression protections.

The courts have routinely ruled in cases over the years saying that employers can have the power to dictate their employees follow traditional gender appearance roles- aka dress codes calling for skirts, makeup, nails, hairstyles, etc.

So why is it a big deal to them? My best guess is it has something to do with the stereotype that tgirls are more feminine than "typical gg's" and that as much as they're claiming that there are no real differences between girls & guys, we illustrate that there are real, tangible differences.