LTR?

[TLB]

No this isn't a personal ad but more of a question. Why is it so hard to get a actual good LTR. TG or GG. I always hear women say they want a nice man that listens and cares, but yet they end up with a guy that treats them like shit (in public atleast) and looks at every other girl walking down the street. The best example I can give is this. I met a girl on TGpersonals.com, we dated for about a month. We spent my birthday together in a hotel and when I went to bed that night I thought everything was fine, turns out she dumps me the next day because I was "too nice". :angry :banghead Anyway, I just hate seeing good girls end up with tools but the heart wants what the heart wants. If anyone knows any good sites to find a nice TG let me know. I'm going to go back to lurking now :P

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I would tell you the answer to your question, however, I don't want to get my ass kicked by every lady that graces these pages!!! You, sir, are a frickin' trouble-maker!!! :banghead

[Mac_Hine]

I would tell you the answer to your question, however, I don't want to get my ass kicked by every lady that graces these pages!!! You, sir, are a frickin' trouble-maker!!! :bangheadpussy

[Mac_Hine]

i got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I would tell you the answer to your question, however, I don't want to get my ass kicked by every lady that graces these pages!!! You, sir, are a frickin' trouble-maker!!! :bangheadpussy

I may be a pussy, but I damn sure ain't stupid!!! And your excuse is........???

[Mac_Hine]

I may be a pussy, but I damn sure ain't stupid!!! And your excuse is........???
why are you afraid of people typing things at you? grow a set :roll:

[justatransgirl]

If anyone knows any good sites to find a nice TG let me know. I'm going to go back to lurking now :P

Where to find a LTR with a TS? Ahhh, maybe not on a site populated by escorts and porn stars? Try AFF. :-) Or maybe college.

Although there's at least ONE girl who met her partner here. So don't lose hope yet honey!

Hugs,
TS Jamie :-)

[Alania_Crose]

I understand what you mean, but thats kinda the reverse for me. I've had 5,
well cant call the relationships, but 5 tries at a relationship with 5 different men, all I can say is, that out of all 5, only 2 treated me with some respect.

And just to let you know, I'm open if you dont mind a pre pre op girl that is.

[tsntx]

the better question is why do ugly old men who arent even in the same league as the "hot tranny women" they chase after for "LTR" get all pissy when the hot girls turn them down?

why should we lower our standards just bc yours are so high?

[perrywinkle]

I haven't ever replied to any posts on this site, but here goes, because I have some pretty strong opinions on this topic.

Although most "nice guys" think they're being "nice" and considerate, as it turns out, they're actually denying agency to the women they are with by being "nice".

I suppose I should explain.

Imagine a situation where you're with a girl, on a conversant level. She asks for your opinion. You, being a "nice guy" tell her what she wants to hear; "Yes sweetie, you're prettier than her" "Of course I like you more than my friend" "I think you're the prettiest girl in the world!" Thing is, do you really mean it?. Are you giving the girl the information she needs to make an informed decision?

In my experience, women go with guys that "nice guys" consider jerks because "jerks" don't soften it up for them - they get the impression that there is no game from them. And lets face it, for women, trust is a major component in an intimate relationship.

Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that what you "nice guys" consider "considerate" is actually unfair to the person you are trying to be with. So...


Grow a pair...

-P

[Wombat]

the better question is why do ugly old men who arent even in the same league as the "hot tranny women" they chase after for "LTR" get all pissy when the hot girls turn them down?

why should we lower our standards just bc yours are so high?

You will find the above mentioned all hanging out in bars in Thailand... :lol:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I think "NICE" is a code word for NOT being "good enough" as a bf. I mean, if you think about it..It just means that you're good enough to fuck but not good enough to date and show people around. If this wasnt the case then WHY would the girl "dump" you for something else? Maybe for someone even better? Does that make sense?

~Kisses.

HTG

[whatsupwithat]

yet they end up with a guy that treats them like shit (in public atleast) and looks at every other girl walking down the street.

i think most women are clueless about what dogs most men are. or, if they're not clueless, they're settling for less than they can get.

[whatsupwithat]

I think "NICE" is a code word for NOT being "good enough" as a bf. I mean, if you think about it..It just means that you're good enough to fuck but not good enough to date and show people around. If this wasnt the case then WHY would the girl "dump" you for something else? Maybe for someone even better? Does that make sense?

~Kisses.

HTG

there are NICE guys that are smart, fun, good-looking, honest, sexy, faithful, in-shape, and successful...aka perfect bf material. and one or two can even dance...and like to.

and if guys like that get dumped on, well, most likely it's the type of women they're falling for.

[whatsupwithat]

Imagine a situation where you're with a girl, on a conversant level. She asks for your opinion. You, being a "nice guy" tell her what she wants to hear; "Yes sweetie, you're prettier than her" "Of course I like you more than my friend" "I think you're the prettiest girl in the world!" Thing is, do you really mean it?. Are you giving the girl the information she needs to make an informed decision?




see, i don't see that as a 'nice' guy...i see it more as spineless guy.


why the hell did i just make three posts in this thread?

[perrywinkle]

see, i don't see that as a 'nice' guy...i see it more as spineless guy.


That was kind of my point. I don't know if I expressed it as well as I intended, but that is what I was driving at.

It just seems like a lot of guys think they are being nice when they are in fact just being chickenshits.

[whatsupwithat]

see, i don't see that as a 'nice' guy...i see it more as spineless guy.


That was kind of my point. I don't know if I expressed it as well as I intended, but that is what I was driving at.

It just seems like a lot of guys think they are being nice when they are in fact just being chickenshits.

and that is the truth. amen.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I think "NICE" is a code word for NOT being "good enough" as a bf. I mean, if you think about it..It just means that you're good enough to fuck but not good enough to date and show people around. If this wasnt the case then WHY would the girl "dump" you for something else? Maybe for someone even better? Does that make sense?

~Kisses.

HTG

there are NICE guys that are smart, fun, good-looking, honest, sexy, faithful, in-shape, and successful...aka perfect bf material. and one or two can even dance...and like to.

These are all your description E! I get it..i get it! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG


and if guys like that get dumped on, well, most likely it's the type of women they're falling for.

It's their loss not yours! They're probably the types of girls who arent worthy of you anyways. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[whatsupwithat]

I think "NICE" is a code word for NOT being "good enough" as a bf. I mean, if you think about it..It just means that you're good enough to fuck but not good enough to date and show people around. If this wasnt the case then WHY would the girl "dump" you for something else? Maybe for someone even better? Does that make sense?

~Kisses.

HTG

there are NICE guys that are smart, fun, good-looking, honest, sexy, faithful, in-shape, and successful...aka perfect bf material. and one or two can even dance...and like to.

These are all your description E! I get it..i get it! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG


and if guys like that get dumped on, well, most likely it's the type of women they're falling for.

It's their loss not yours! They're probably the types of girls who arent worthy of you anyways. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

did i ever tell you how much i love you? :)

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

LOL Do you realy?!? Hehe

Me love you too E..Long time! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[mimiplastique]

LOL Do you realy?!? Hehe

Me love you too E..Long time! ;)

~Kisses.

HTGthis is a bullshit ass thread !!!!

[TrueBeauty TS]

No this isn't a personal ad but more of a question. Why is it so hard to get a actual good LTR. TG or GG. I always hear women say they want a nice man that listens and cares, but yet they end up with a guy that treats them like shit (in public atleast) and looks at every other girl walking down the street. The best example I can give is this. I met a girl on TGpersonals.com, we dated for about a month. We spent my birthday together in a hotel and when I went to bed that night I thought everything was fine, turns out she dumps me the next day because I was "too nice". :angry :banghead Anyway, I just hate seeing good girls end up with tools but the heart wants what the heart wants. If anyone knows any good sites to find a nice TG let me know. I'm going to go back to lurking now :P


I agree with a lot of what the others have said but I want to add that, a lot of guys mistake being passive and submissive for being nice.

You can be a nice guy without being a total, spineless pussy.


.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

this is a bullshit ass thread !!!!

LOL OMG! Get off premarin..We were just joking around. :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[TLB]

If anyone knows any good sites to find a nice TG let me know. I'm going to go back to lurking now :P

Where to find a LTR with a TS? Ahhh, maybe not on a site populated by escorts and porn stars? Try AFF. :-) Or maybe college.

Although there's at least ONE girl who met her partner here. So don't lose hope yet honey!

Hugs,
TS Jamie :-)

Tried that and Alt, its filled with people just looking for sex.

[Night Rider]

Tried that and Alt, its filled with people just looking for sex.

That's a real downer

...why would anyone want 'hassle free' sex :roll:

[TLB]

Tried that and Alt, its filled with people just looking for sex.

That's a real downer

...why would anyone want 'hassle free' sex :roll:

Heh, granted thats all I wanted when I signed up too. But now I'm just at that point in my life where I just want to start getting the important things in order so I could start settling down, as sad as that may sound.

[tall, dark & Handsome]

Listen TLB you sound like a nice young guy, but let me tell you you, and I don't mean to offend you, but I sense that you are used to females paying attention to you when you display unrully behavior in a high pitched tone;

some call it whining.

In my experience. it turns girls off. It makes them feel like they are supposed to be your mommy and take care of you.

Some chicks are enablers. If you are looking for an enabler...you need know this ain't the one.

just laying that out there for ya'

and about being a nice guy: I really am to a fault, but as the say you got to be cruel to be kind.

[TLB]

Well TD&H, thats a nice observation. It's just too bad you're wrong. Believe I playfully whine around my friends all the time, but when I'm around someone I dating I'm a different person.

Also I'm not spineless, I just refuse to treat somebody, male or female, with less respect than I want to be treated with. Unless the fuck with me first.

[tall, dark & Handsome]

Well if I spoke out of turn, then i spoke out of turn.

you know what you are doing, so go out and have fun with these sexy girls cause you know they want to have fun with you. right?

and if you don't end up with a LTR right off the bat how is that different then any other human endevour?

[peggygee]

If anyone knows any good sites to find a nice TG let me know. I'm going to go back to lurking now :P

Where to find a LTR with a TS? Ahhh, maybe not on a site populated by escorts and porn stars? Try AFF. :-) Or maybe college.

Although there's at least ONE girl who met her partner here. So don't lose hope yet honey!

Hugs,
TS Jamie :-)

Tried that and Alt, its filled with people just looking for sex.

I've also found that people on adultfriendfinders.com are mostly looking
for casual sex, once in a purple moon there may be someone seeking an
LTR.

I would say that folks on alt.com are even more less inclined to LTRs. On
that site, it's folks looking for BDSM, watersports, swinging, and other
so-caled alternative sexual activities, hence it's name.

If I put out an ad, I might put it on match.com, true.com and other
mainstream sites. I have had ads on tsmatch, tgmatchmaker, tsgirlfriend
with mixed success.

[mbf]

I think "NICE" is a code word for NOT being "good enough" as a bf.

what you ever wanted to know about NICE GUYS but were afraid to ask...

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=23259&highlight=nice+guy

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hmm..8 pages..Enough said! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[whatsupwithat]

LOL Do you realy?!? Hehe

Me love you too E..Long time! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

hahahaha!

but seriously...how long? :P

..........

as for finding love or even an ltr, my view is that it's not easy. first off, you have to have two people wanting it at the same time. okay, yeah, we're all looking for love, but not all on the same level. then, everything else comes into play - attraction, personality, dreams, issues, personal likes and dislikes, circumstances...the list goes on and on.

usually, the way it plays out is the intense courtship phase filled with dreams and hopes that this might be it, that he or she might be the one. it's all incredibly heady stuff. depending upon the intensity, we turn a blind eye to the things in the other person that would usually bother us to no end...personality traits, habits, etc...in other words, we want to believe in love.

eventually, we all begin to see the truth of the situation and the timing of of becoming 'unblind' - 6 months, a year, two years, 25 years - depends upon how honest the two people are with themselves and each other. the ones who stay blind the longest tend to be some of the miserable people who walk the earth...we've all seen them, eating out, stone-faced, not talking or enjoying each other. or, there's another way this plays out, with two people settling into patterns that perpetuate the blindness, with incredible highs and lows and usually one of the partners taking over a dominant and sometimes abusive role, keeping the other blind for their own manipulative reasons.

now to those that move on as a couple - who accept that their partner is only human, who accept that their partner does and will do things they don't like, who accept it won't be all wine and roses - for these people, this is where real love takes over...love with commitment, respect, honesty, and willingness.

it's hard work and, more often than not, both people are not willing to put in that hard work. you see it time and time again where one person in the relationship does everything possible to bring it to the next level, but the other just couldn't be bothered for whatever their personal reasons. as for those couples who share the work of the relationship, well, you'll see them at 80 years old, on the dance floor, kissing, staring into each others eyes, even more deeply in love because of all they've been through.

i could go on and on about the different scenarios, and seeing and not seeing, but the truth of the matter is that if you find love, don't let it go. work on it. build it. be open to it. because, honestly, the odds of it coming around again are rare.

[mbf]

many LTRs dont work bc thats not how the human race works. "true love" --->LTR--->marriage are burgeouis/middle class concepts that have very little to do with reality - at least how I see it.

we are still cavemen, the skin of "civilisation" is thin, very thin. men have a disposition to spread their semen, and women do seek constantly the strongest/most clever/most prestigious partner to have the best chances for a successful offspring.

marriage has always been to a great amount a method of getting through life easier - for both partners. almost like a business agreement. the typical western core-family of two to three kids just serves best the needs of the middle class and the economy.

the economic factors pretty much have disappeared in the westrern world within the last couple of decades. women have their own careers now, their own money. that reduced their dependance on men/husbands and at the same time has reduced the number of children beeing born - simply bc children mean a career-break.

[yodajazz]

...... marriage has always been to a great amount a method of getting through life easier - for both partners. almost like a business agreement. the typical western core-family of two to three kids just serves best the needs of the middle class and the economy.

the economic factors pretty much have disappeared in the westrern world within the last couple of decades. women have their own careers now, their own money. that reduced their dependance on men/husbands and at the same time has reduced the number of children beeing born - simply bc children mean a career-break.

I disagree only with your assertion that economic factors are no longer important. Single people can survive, but it often takes two incomes to really succeed materially. Then you can throw in changing careers and health issues. Raising children not only cost big bucks, but they need important amounts of time. Single parent families are the poorest segment of American society. The goverment realizes how important couples are for the economy and gives married couples breaks.

Money is still one ot most important factors in making or breaking ltr's.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

LOL Do you realy?!? Hehe

Me love you too E..Long time! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

hahahaha!

but seriously...how long? :P



Much longer than an hour than "most" girls, I promise! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[wombat33]

the better question is why do ugly old men who arent even in the same league as the "hot tranny women" they chase after for "LTR" get all pissy when the hot girls turn them down?

why should we lower our standards just bc yours are so high?


LOL


your day will come as mine will when we will be old and then where will we be?

I wonder what life is like for a 50+ year old TS "hottie"

[PapiBear]

The question you should be asking is, "what would it take to make this person I'm interested in totally addicted to me?"

Get that one right and you have your LTR.



Sweet dreams are made of these
Who am I to disagree?
I've traveled the world and the seven seas
Everybody's looking for something.

Keep your head up...

[qeuqheeg222]

that was really well put.whatisupwiththat.....

[Shining Star]

Totally disagree that long term relationships do not work, or at least that a majority fail. It certianly is not bound in stone, and if people would stop "marrying" someone because of their physical beauty and or sexual prowness, things might be different. *LOL*

Speak to anyone over a certian age, gay or straight who has been in a committed LTR for years, and they will tell you the same thing; it takes work, lots of work. For that work to be meaningful, one has to find a person one not only respects and admires, but loves in a sense far more than physical. This sort of love does not mean the person is one's exclusive property, for no one can own another person. There are men and women who have stayed with long term partners even after that person has become seriously disabled and or so ill that the chances of a normal life are pretty much nil, and yet they stay.

IMHO transgirls have trouble finding long term partners because many of the men they wish, either do not wish them, and or only want them for sexual purposes. Certianly when one sees the vast number of adverts, chats, and so forth placed by men seeking transgirls, not to mention attending parties and visiting escorts; odds would be on that a good number would like to find one girl and settle down. Alas, the fact that this topic keeps coming up, and young t-girls today are facing the same problems as girls back in the day, shows things have not changed much.

Personally I think the main problem is so many men who fancy trannies are scared stiff they will be labeled "gay", if anyone knew what they were up to; hence they go about their business on the down low. What amazes me is that also then as now, many T-girls accomodate and in some fashion condone this behaviour. Time and time again girls post of meeting and dating (as in having sex) with some guy that leaves their house and goes off to his girlfriend's place. Well, yes you just had sex with that man, but it is to HER house he went, and it is she he takes out in public, especially to places that matter such as events where his freinds and family are likely to be in attendence. In short the trannie presents no threat to the GG, she holds all the cards and you are just "the other woman".

In order for any long term relationship to work, two people have to accept each other for what they are, as things are. You can change your name, you can change your shirt, you can even change your sex, but you cannot change another person. What you see is what you get, and no amount of good sex is going to make up for unhappiness.

Being all this as it may, have known several T-girls in my life in LTR, though most are pre-ops, with only a few post-op. In either case their partners accept them as trannies, not as "women". Not to sound mean, and that statement is not meant to cause offense. Just both parties realise and accept things and themselves as they are. He knows what she is and loves/ accepts that; and she knows what she is and is happy with what she has and doesn't want what she hasn't got.

As other posters have stated, will second the thought finding a LTR anywhere near or around the TS escort/TS scene is very difficult. Sadly the scene today has become so focused on sex to the extent it seems to attract those only looking for it, or looking to profit from the same.

Believe it or not, it is possible to meet a "normal" guy who is into trannies outside the "scene". Guys who are into the girls have the same radar girls use to spot each other. Many girls go on about how they met some guy at the park or beach and he didn't know their "T", when in reality, they did or at the very least knew something was "up", and that something is what they were interested in.

If one takes a few pages from "the Rules" and puts off having sex within 10 minutes after meeting, and gets to know a person, much heartache and grief can be prevented.

[whatsupwithat]

Totally disagree that long term relationships do not work, or at least that a majority fail. It certianly is not bound in stone, and if people would stop "marrying" someone because of their physical beauty and or sexual prowness, things might be different. *LOL*

Speak to anyone over a certian age, gay or straight who has been in a committed LTR for years, and they will tell you the same thing; it takes work, lots of work. For that work to be meaningful, one has to find a person one not only respects and admires, but loves in a sense far more than physical. This sort of love does not mean the person is one's exclusive property, for no one can own another person. There are men and women who have stayed with long term partners even after that person has become seriously disabled and or so ill that the chances of a normal life are pretty much nil, and yet they stay.

IMHO transgirls have trouble finding long term partners because many of the men they wish, either do not wish them, and or only want them for sexual purposes. Certianly when one sees the vast number of adverts, chats, and so forth placed by men seeking transgirls, not to mention attending parties and visiting escorts; odds would be on that a good number would like to find one girl and settle down. Alas, the fact that this topic keeps coming up, and young t-girls today are facing the same problems as girls back in the day, shows things have not changed much.

Personally I think the main problem is so many men who fancy trannies are scared stiff they will be labeled "gay", if anyone knew what they were up to; hence they go about their business on the down low. What amazes me is that also then as now, many T-girls accomodate and in some fashion condone this behaviour. Time and time again girls post of meeting and dating (as in having sex) with some guy that leaves their house and goes off to his girlfriend's place. Well, yes you just had sex with that man, but it is to HER house he went, and it is she he takes out in public, especially to places that matter such as events where his freinds and family are likely to be in attendence. In short the trannie presents no threat to the GG, she holds all the cards and you are just "the other woman".

In order for any long term relationship to work, two people have to accept each other for what they are, as things are. You can change your name, you can change your shirt, you can even change your sex, but you cannot change another person. What you see is what you get, and no amount of good sex is going to make up for unhappiness.

Being all this as it may, have known several T-girls in my life in LTR, though most are pre-ops, with only a few post-op. In either case their partners accept them as trannies, not as "women". Not to sound mean, and that statement is not meant to cause offense. Just both parties realise and accept things and themselves as they are. He knows what she is and loves/ accepts that; and she knows what she is and is happy with what she has and doesn't want what she hasn't got.

As other posters have stated, will second the thought finding a LTR anywhere near or around the TS escort/TS scene is very difficult. Sadly the scene today has become so focused on sex to the extent it seems to attract those only looking for it, or looking to profit from the same.

Believe it or not, it is possible to meet a "normal" guy who is into trannies outside the "scene". Guys who are into the girls have the same radar girls use to spot each other. Many girls go on about how they met some guy at the park or beach and he didn't know their "T", when in reality, they did or at the very least knew something was "up", and that something is what they were interested in.

If one takes a few pages from "the Rules" and puts off having sex within 10 minutes after meeting, and gets to know a person, much heartache and grief can be prevented.


everytime you write something, i find myself 100% in agreement with you. marry me. whoever you are. hahaha!

[BBaggins06]

the better question is why do ugly old men who arent even in the same league as the "hot tranny women" they chase after for "LTR" get all pissy when the hot girls turn them down?

why should we lower our standards just bc yours are so high?

Hmm, isn't one of the reasons why women are supposedly better men is that they're not as into looks as we are? I guess it must be an urban myth or something. Mahalo

Matt

[TrueBeauty TS]

*Bump*


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[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

The question you should be asking is, "what would it take to make this person I'm interested in totally addicted to me?"

SPLURGE? Spoil her crazy and you'll have her at your beck and call! LOL ;)

If that fails try some voodoo love spells! J/k

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[mbf]

If that fails try some voodoo love spells!



that might work.....

just depends where you stick your needle :)

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Lmao! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[TrueBeauty TS]

SPLURGE? Spoil her crazy and you'll have her at your beck and call! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG



I'm willing to be anyone's "beck and callgirl".

:wink:



.

[manbearpig]

Totally disagree that long term relationships do not work, or at least that a majority fail. It certianly is not bound in stone, and if people would stop "marrying" someone because of their physical beauty and or sexual prowness, things might be different. *LOL*

Speak to anyone over a certian age, gay or straight who has been in a committed LTR for years, and they will tell you the same thing; it takes work, lots of work. For that work to be meaningful, one has to find a person one not only respects and admires, but loves in a sense far more than physical. This sort of love does not mean the person is one's exclusive property, for no one can own another person. There are men and women who have stayed with long term partners even after that person has become seriously disabled and or so ill that the chances of a normal life are pretty much nil, and yet they stay.

IMHO transgirls have trouble finding long term partners because many of the men they wish, either do not wish them, and or only want them for sexual purposes. Certianly when one sees the vast number of adverts, chats, and so forth placed by men seeking transgirls, not to mention attending parties and visiting escorts; odds would be on that a good number would like to find one girl and settle down. Alas, the fact that this topic keeps coming up, and young t-girls today are facing the same problems as girls back in the day, shows things have not changed much.

Personally I think the main problem is so many men who fancy trannies are scared stiff they will be labeled "gay", if anyone knew what they were up to; hence they go about their business on the down low. What amazes me is that also then as now, many T-girls accomodate and in some fashion condone this behaviour. Time and time again girls post of meeting and dating (as in having sex) with some guy that leaves their house and goes off to his girlfriend's place. Well, yes you just had sex with that man, but it is to HER house he went, and it is she he takes out in public, especially to places that matter such as events where his freinds and family are likely to be in attendence. In short the trannie presents no threat to the GG, she holds all the cards and you are just "the other woman".

In order for any long term relationship to work, two people have to accept each other for what they are, as things are. You can change your name, you can change your shirt, you can even change your sex, but you cannot change another person. What you see is what you get, and no amount of good sex is going to make up for unhappiness.

Being all this as it may, have known several T-girls in my life in LTR, though most are pre-ops, with only a few post-op. In either case their partners accept them as trannies, not as "women". Not to sound mean, and that statement is not meant to cause offense. Just both parties realise and accept things and themselves as they are. He knows what she is and loves/ accepts that; and she knows what she is and is happy with what she has and doesn't want what she hasn't got.

As other posters have stated, will second the thought finding a LTR anywhere near or around the TS escort/TS scene is very difficult. Sadly the scene today has become so focused on sex to the extent it seems to attract those only looking for it, or looking to profit from the same.

Believe it or not, it is possible to meet a "normal" guy who is into trannies outside the "scene". Guys who are into the girls have the same radar girls use to spot each other. Many girls go on about how they met some guy at the park or beach and he didn't know their "T", when in reality, they did or at the very least knew something was "up", and that something is what they were interested in.

If one takes a few pages from "the Rules" and puts off having sex within 10 minutes after meeting, and gets to know a person, much heartache and grief can be prevented.

:claps bravo. Couldn't have said it better.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

SPLURGE? Spoil her crazy and you'll have her at your beck and call! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG



I'm willing to be anyone's "beck and callgirl".

:wink:



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:lol: Girl, why haven't I thought of that? LOL You always crack me up! Cheers! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[JamesHunt]

No this isn't a personal ad but more of a question. Why is it so hard to get a actual good LTR. TG or GG. I always hear women say they want a nice man that listens and cares, but yet they end up with a guy that treats them like shit (in public atleast) and looks at every other girl walking down the street. The best example I can give is this. I met a girl on TGpersonals.com, we dated for about a month. We spent my birthday together in a hotel and when I went to bed that night I thought everything was fine, turns out she dumps me the next day because I was "too nice". :angry :banghead Anyway, I just hate seeing good girls end up with tools but the heart wants what the heart wants. If anyone knows any good sites to find a nice TG let me know. I'm going to go back to lurking now :P

LMFAO!!!! We come into this world alone, and die alone, anything between is a bonus :lol:

[PapiBear]

The question you should be asking is, "what would it take to make this person I'm interested in totally addicted to me?"

SPLURGE? Spoil her crazy and you'll have her at your beck and call! LOL ;)

If that fails try some voodoo love spells! J/k

;)

~Kisses.

HTG

LOL. I love to splurge. The trouble (as I've found out the hard way) is that splurging sends this message: "I have really low self esteem; the only reason you'd ever want to be around me is because I buy you stuff and the moment I stop buying you stuff you're going to dump my worthless ass and find someone else who will buy you stuff."

It is also really insulting because it is telling the woman that you think she can be bought and is willing to settle for a needy wussy who buys her stuff.

Think about it.

Now, switch the order of things. Find someone. Connect. Laugh like crazy. Do simple everyday things together--putting up a bookshelf, cooking dinner, shopping for a vase. Fall in love. And then splurge. Now it sends a real message of "I love you." Now, whenever she sees that diamond tennis bracelet she remembers the time you tried on those terrible slacks at the store, or how you gave up your coat on the winter day because she was cold.

Keep it up and you will be celebrating your 50th wedding anniversary surrounded by grandkids.

Or, you can just walk up to a girl, hand her a $1,000 bill and ask her, "if I give you dollah, you love me long time?"

[peggygee]

Find someone. Connect. Laugh like crazy. Do simple everyday things together--putting up a bookshelf, cooking dinner, shopping for a vase. Fall in love. And then splurge. Now it sends a real message of "I love you." Now, whenever she sees that diamond tennis bracelet she remembers the time you tried on those terrible slacks at the store, or how you gave up your coat on the winter day because she was cold.

Keep it up and you will be celebrating your 50th wedding anniversary surrounded by grandkids.

Or, you can just walk up to a girl, hand her a $1,000 bill and ask her, "if I give you dollah, you love me long time?"

The things you have descibed will build intimacy and trust. A person like
you are describing is putting work, time and effort into their relationship
which will pay off huge dividends.

Anybody whose love or affection that can be brought with trinkets and
baubles will assuredly go with the highest bidder.

Now don't get me wrong I like gifts just like any other woman, but I
really value the things that come from the heart, and not neccessarily
the jewelry store.

Not for sale boo. :smh

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/sexaddict3.jpg

[PapiBear]

Peg,

You sound like my kind of woman.

Rock on; and don't ever settle.

[bezane]

Find someone. Connect. Laugh like crazy. Do simple everyday things together--putting up a bookshelf, cooking dinner, shopping for a vase. Fall in love. And then splurge. Now it sends a real message of "I love you." Now, whenever she sees that diamond tennis bracelet she remembers the time you tried on those terrible slacks at the store, or how you gave up your coat on the winter day because she was cold.

Keep it up and you will be celebrating your 50th wedding anniversary surrounded by grandkids.

Or, you can just walk up to a girl, hand her a $1,000 bill and ask her, "if I give you dollah, you love me long time?"

The things you have descibed will build intimacy and trust. A person like
you are describing is putting work, time and effort into their relationship
which will pay off huge dividends.

Anybody whose love or affection that can be brought with trinkets and
baubles will assuredly go with the highest bidder.

Now don't get me wrong I like gifts just like any other woman, but I
really value the things that come from the heart, and not neccessarily
the jewelry store.

Not for sale boo. :smh

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/sexaddict3.jpg

Okay peggygee. As you know I think, my heart has been broken too many times. Yeah by the escort thing, and by drugs etc. etc. Both TG's and GG's. And yes I like them hot. So when are you opening up your matchmaking shingle?

I've fallen for a girl here on the board. Don't know anything about her, looks whatever, but her words are perfect. Match me with someone like that. LOL. I will pay you a fee of course.

My New Year's resolution is to stop the running around.

And the AFF thing is filled with escorts. And yes I've seen all the girls here that post there and I've been discreet. Some looking for the strangest things too. Shame on you.

Help me peggygee!!!!!

[peggygee]

Peg,

You sound like my kind of woman.

Rock on; and don't ever settle.






Okay peggygee. As you know I think, my heart has been broken too many times. Yeah by the escort thing, and by drugs etc. etc. Both TG's and GG's. And yes I like them hot. So when are you opening up your matchmaking shingle?

I've fallen for a girl here on the board. Don't know anything about her, looks whatever, but her words are perfect. Match me with someone like that. LOL. I will pay you a fee of course.

My New Year's resolution is to stop the running around.

And the AFF thing is filled with escorts. And yes I've seen all the girls here that post there and I've been discreet. Some looking for the strangest things too. Shame on you.

Help me peggygee!!!!!

Thank you both. :wink:

You don't grow older, and not learn a thing or two about llfe and love.

And no my sentiments aren't about escorts and the craft they ply. But it
is about the choices we make and where we look for for love, whether
male or female.

And unless you're looking for a booty call, AFF usually ain't the place to
find Mr. or Ms. Right.

By no means am I professing to be an expert in matters of the heart, but
at this juncture of my life I'm fairly good at figuring out who would be
good to be in my life and who wouldn't.

And rather than throwing a very wide net into the ocean, and taking in
whatever gets dragged in, I am very selective. Thus for the most
part my life is relatively drama free at least on that aspect.

I also won't use sex for bait. I don't have sex in the hopes that it will lead
to a relationship, rather I try to generate a relationship and then we may
move on to something more intimate.

No disrespect to the ladies, and I'm not trying to be shady, but if you are
willing to give up the ass or pussy on the first or second date, then the
men are more than willing to take it, it's the nature of the beast.

And then the women feel that is all that men want them for. What's
happening is that many women are leading from what they think is their
biggest strength and asset, their sexuality.

[PapiBear]

Keeping the zippers shut for the first month of dating is great advice. Also, clean your pipes before each date so that you don't feel any "pressure."