I'm thinking about giving up on TG porn.

[Silcc69]

To many of my faves seem to be going to have to SRS surgeries. Which makes them less appealing IMO.

Honey Love
Ghia Christansen
Vicki Richter
Danille Foxx

I mean those were sum of my faves just gone. :(

[lust4ts]

:roll:

Quick some one better call them fast and tell them you are going to stop watching TS porn, I'm sure they will alll rethink their ultimate life goals and ambitions just so you don't huh :wink:

Anyone would think by the way that is worded "some of my faves just gone gone" that you assume they will somehow cease to exist without their cocks.

I say, if they feel uncomfortable the way they currently are then good luck to them, porn should not be enough of a reason for someone keep something that ultimately makes them unhappy.

[Legend]

:roll:

Quick some one better call them fast and tell them you are going to stop watching TS porn, I'm sure they will alll rethink their ultimate life goals and ambitions just so you don't huh :wink:

Anyone would think by the way that is worded "some of my faves just gone gone" that you assume they will somehow cease to exist without their cocks.

I say, if they feel uncomfortable the way they currently are then good luck to them, porn should not be enough of a reason for someone keep something that ultimately makes them unhappy.

Well said.

[Don Ho]

To many of my faves seem to be going to have to SRS surgeries. Which makes them less appealing IMO.

Honey Love
Ghia Christansen
Vicki Richter
Danille Foxx

I mean those were sum of my faves just gone. :(There is always a new girl who you will find even hotter. Its human nature, We just replace whats lost. Enjoy your porn and dont give up....Yeahyah!!!

[Str8ninterested]

wow...I suck. I joined here after seeing Vickie & Danielle suck and fuck eachother...and now they're out of the TG genre? Booooooooo me. Good for them for being happy/complete/whathaveyou, but the greedy asshole in me wishes they didn't go through with the SRS :?

[Trogdor]

wow...I suck. I joined here after seeing Vickie & Danielle suck and fuck eachother...and now they're out of the TG genre? Booooooooo me. Good for them for being happy/complete/whathaveyou, but the greedy asshole in me wishes they didn't go through with the SRS :?

Being greedy can be good.....it what makes us stay alive in this world, and so on. Old daying goes, "There's not much gold in good" Hell, after years of being good, and getting less than nothing.....I'm about ready to be greedy myself. :idea:

[justatransgirl]

Memo to all TS porn stars - STOP - DO NOT have SRS - You are breaking Silcc's heart...

Remember you exist only to bring great pleasure to men anddare you stop you will pay the price...

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

Not that anyone will miss me... but you've got about 9 months to enjoy the outtie before it becomes an innie... :-)

[Fetish Fanatic]

There's always a ts with a nicer bigger cock babay!! LIke sasha!

[slinky]

It's my experience that we are seeing an oversaturation of the TS porn market.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

It's my experience that ts adult models and actresses who undergo SRS are not exactly concerened with the opinions of those who just see them as masturbatory objects. These girls will lose some fans, and gain fans. Life goes on. You gotta do you baby.

[Silcc69]

I'm not saying that they should'nt do it but I do hope they try and live a good normal porn free life.

[BXCanada]

I guess i kinda get what Silcc is saying. Me personaly i have no atraction what so ever to a female pussy I almost find it a turn off. Thats not to say i think of TS's as objects just to get off on while watching porn. I used to watch straight porn before i realised that it wasn't the women with the strap-on giveing it to the other woman i found sexy it was the fact that the women looked more natural with a penis than without.

Transsexual Beauty Queens 7 was the first TS porn i ever watched. Honey Love was the first one in the movie and Gia Darling was in the second scene. It was when i saw Gia and how amazing she looked that i knew what all the feelings i have ever had where trying to tell me.

I get so used to seeing TS women that when one of them decides to go in for the SRS operation it just kinda stuns me that she would do that. I know that for some it was something they always planned on doing but it still doesn't make it any less shocking.

My fiance is non-op male to female and has no desire at all what so ever to have the SRS operation. I guess for some it is something they feel they have to do and for others they love the way they are and would not ever give it up.

I am very shocked to see Honey Love and Vicki on that list. I guess i just have a difficult time pictureing them as post-op.

Best wishes to all of them :)

Edit: Typos :lol:

[Night Rider]

If thats what they wanna do then we should all just accept it. Their minds aren't gonna be swayed by a few perverts on an internet forum so why can't u just be nice!

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I don't know what to say!!! To each their own, I respect the right of someone to select SRS, I respect the opinion and reasons for which Silcc69 found these particular ladies attractive, but have to express disappointment in his shallow code. Personally, I feel it's the person, not the appearance, career or equipment. Is the package sweeter, if the wrapper looks good, you bet?!

There is a lady that graces HA regularly, a valued contributor by many who visit these pages, for which I have a tremendous amount of respect and admiration. I haven't met her, but hope to. Not because she is a special lady or has a dangling participle, but because of the person I have encountered in this somewhat private showroom. Intelligent, caring, direct, outgoing, great sense of humor, and a damn nice wrapper. Doesn't, and wouldn't matter to me should she decide SRS is in her future, the person is still the same. Thanks, Hara_Juku_Tgirl, for being the lady you are.

[crayons]

I'm not saying that they should'nt do it but I do hope they try and live a good normal porn free life.

you should. trannies are in the business of making money to get surgery to enhance their look. whatever gave you the idea that this porn thing was permanent took you for a wild ride son. :wink:

[RawNY]

I guess i kinda get what Silcc is saying. Me personaly i have no atraction what so ever to a female pussy I almost find it a turn off. Thats not to say i think of TS's as objects just to get off on while watching porn. I used to watch straight porn before i realised that it wasn't the women with the strap-on giveing it to the other woman i found sexy it was the fact that the women looked more natural with a penis than without.

Transsexual Beauty Queens 7 was the first TS porn i ever watched. Honey Love was the first one in the movie and Gia Darling was in the second scene. It was when i saw Gia and how amazing she looked that i knew what all the feelings i have ever had where trying to tell me.

I get so used to seeing TS women that when one of them decides to go in for the SRS operation it just kinda stuns me that she would do that. I know that for some it was something they always planned on doing but it still doesn't make it any less shocking.

My fiance is non-op male to female and has no desire at all what so ever to have the SRS operation. I guess for some it is something they feel they have to do and for others they love the way they are and would not ever give it up.

I am very shocked to see Honey Love and Vicki on that list. I guess i just have a difficult time pictureing them as post-op.

Best wishes to all of them :)

Edit: Typos :lol:

DUDE, GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT.
Here is what you said in another thread
" my fiance is the only women i have ever slept with... or even made out with. she is not a virgin but we have decided to wait for us until we get married. that is how i always pictured it, a romantic night after the wedding with the woman i love."

Now you are saying you do not like pussy! Shouldn't you tell your fiance that you are not sleeping with her because you hate her pussy and not becasue you are a hopeless fucking romantic!

Tell your fiance that you are queer and give her my link so I can give her what she needs!

And stop sitting in judgment of others, you schmuck!

[sucka4chix]

Same ol' over-sensitive attacking HA crew! Dude just says he's thinking
about giving up on porn. That's it. What he likes to see in PORN is not an attack on anyone. I'm so tired of the sarcastic "I'm sure she'll ask you if she
should have her SRS" type comments everytime anyone types a word remotely resembling "post-op." It's misplaced. The OP simply stated some of his porn stars are basically "retired" and therefore he's thinking about giving up porn. You guys should take that as a compliment, that he doesn't feel porn is any good without them instead of attacking his views on post-ops... which you guys fabricated, by the way, as usual.
Now, to the OP, maybe you need to update your porn collection. Those are some "seasoned" names you mentioned.

[BXCanada]

I guess i kinda get what Silcc is saying. Me personaly i have no atraction what so ever to a female pussy I almost find it a turn off. Thats not to say i think of TS's as objects just to get off on while watching porn. I used to watch straight porn before i realised that it wasn't the women with the strap-on giveing it to the other woman i found sexy it was the fact that the women looked more natural with a penis than without.

Transsexual Beauty Queens 7 was the first TS porn i ever watched. Honey Love was the first one in the movie and Gia Darling was in the second scene. It was when i saw Gia and how amazing she looked that i knew what all the feelings i have ever had where trying to tell me.

I get so used to seeing TS women that when one of them decides to go in for the SRS operation it just kinda stuns me that she would do that. I know that for some it was something they always planned on doing but it still doesn't make it any less shocking.

My fiance is non-op male to female and has no desire at all what so ever to have the SRS operation. I guess for some it is something they feel they have to do and for others they love the way they are and would not ever give it up.

I am very shocked to see Honey Love and Vicki on that list. I guess i just have a difficult time pictureing them as post-op.

Best wishes to all of them :)

Edit: Typos :lol:

DUDE, GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT.
Here is what you said in another thread
" my fiance is the only women i have ever slept with... or even made out with. she is not a virgin but we have decided to wait for us until we get married. that is how i always pictured it, a romantic night after the wedding with the woman i love."

Now you are saying you do not like pussy! Shouldn't you tell your fiance that you are not sleeping with her because you hate her pussy and not becasue you are a hopeless fucking romantic!

Tell your fiance that you are queer and give her my link so I can give her what she needs!

And stop sitting in judgment of others, you schmuck!

For one thing my fiance is a NON-OP transsexual dumbass she doesn't have a pussy. And IF you had read ANY of my earlier posts you would know that. No i do not find a pussy apealing, IF by some far flung chance she one day did decided to go through with the SRS operation (wich is extremely unlikely since she loves being just as she is) i would suport her just as i do with the women that where listed in the begining of this post.

Try reading a post fully before responding next time.

Incase you didn't notice all i said was i get used to seeing them one way and then they decide to get the SRS operation. I just never think about it and i am always surprised when it happens.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

RawNY, I think you've stepped on it!!! Unless you've had SRS, personally. Perhaps you should "RTFQ" (Read The Fuckin' Quote) before inserting response. It's less painful that way, speaking from personal experience!!!

[RawNY]

Please accept my apology. I was unaware of your previous posts regarding the fact that your fiance is a transexual. I am sorry I over reacted but I guess I am sort of tired of so many guys faking their interests. I have been with Tg for almost 25 years. A few LTR and many adventures for which I have never paid. my first was an escort I met at a place in NYC called Trapeeze. (If anyone remembers it) Other than htat I have been lucky in my ability to make women feel comfortable adn feel hat I am paying attention to them as a person.
Once again, I apologize if I was out of line.

[Vicki Richter]

Well the clinical definition of being a real TS at least partially involves abhoration of one's genitals. That is why I have said that a shemale is a distinctive term, not just a porn term. It is a full time M2F who decided to always keep her cock... which means she isn't a TS. Pre-op TS assumes that eventually she will be post-op. Non-op is a new, made up term which suggests a TS who never intends to have SRS.

Anyway, that said, I think most girls in porn are pre-op TS's who put it off for financial reasons. Because of the cycle of sex work, it always gets put off and never happens for most girls. I want a guy for a relationship who defines me as a human and a woman and not just by what is between my legs. Unfortunately, most guys into preop-TS do just that. (Note I said "most" you whiners).

It comes down to girls not wanting to be honest with you guys about what we want because in the sex industry, fans are fickle. "Oh the girl is a bottom? Write her off." "Oh the girl wants SRS? Write her off." Once the fantasy is ruined it is ruined. When guys have to write off a certain girl from their being "gang banged by trannies fantasy" it's over. If all the girls were honest, there would be a lot of disappointment from the fans of the genre. If all the fans were honest about what they really care about, the girls would have a lot of disappointment.

I could give a fuck about people saying they hate pussy or think fake vaginas are gross. That isn't going to change anyone's opinion about how they feel about their bodies. I have no problem living as a girl with a penis and I know Danielle doesn't either. However, it gets fucking old and it can take a lot of wind out of people's sails after years of living this way. We're so much more than that. We're smart, funny, deep human beings with personalities. We're attractive as women, not just as TS women. No we can't have kids, but there are huge number of guys over 40 who don't want (more?) kids anyway. I think almost any girl who has invested as much time and money into herself to be "passable" and attractive doesn't want to live a tranny life forever if at all.

That is why I admire that girl Jessica Rabbit or Body or whatever her name is this week. She is young and very passable and post-op. Good for her. Not only can she walk among you, she can do it just as naturally as any GG. It will be so much nicer to be that way without worrying about being beat down for having a dick or having a crush on the wrong guy. Mentally, TS are girls guys... It boils down to that being how most of us are wired.

[slinky]

Vicki,

Are you saying that your cock can get in the way of a real relationship with men because they are so cock focused that you think if you get tid of that, then they will more easily focus on you (as a person), rather than it (and you simply being a vehicle as owner of the cock)? Because if you are, I'm sure thast you are at least partly correct.

Of course, that won't stop guys like me, who don't care whether you've got a cock or not, but just want whatever is in your panties anyway. In other words, you may just be trading one set of obsessives for another.

[slinky]

Well the clinical definition of being a real TS at least partially involves abhoration of one's genitals. That is why I have said that a shemale is a distinctive term, not just a porn term. It is a full time M2F who decided to always keep her cock... which means she isn't a TS. Pre-op TS assumes that eventually she will be post-op. Non-op is a new, made up term which suggests a TS who never intends to have SRS.

Anyway, that said, I think most girls in porn are pre-op TS's who put it off for financial reasons. Because of the cycle of sex work, it always gets put off and never happens for most girls. I want a guy for a relationship who defines me as a human and a woman and not just by what is between my legs. Unfortunately, most guys into preop-TS do just that. (Note I said "most" you whiners).

It comes down to girls not wanting to be honest with you guys about what we want because in the sex industry, fans are fickle. "Oh the girl is a bottom? Write her off." "Oh the girl wants SRS? Write her off." Once the fantasy is ruined it is ruined. When guys have to write off a certain girl from their being "gang banged by trannies fantasy" it's over. If all the girls were honest, there would be a lot of disappointment from the fans of the genre. If all the fans were honest about what they really care about, the girls would have a lot of disappointment.

I could give a fuck about people saying they hate pussy or think fake vaginas are gross. That isn't going to change anyone's opinion about how they feel about their bodies. I have no problem living as a girl with a penis and I know Danielle doesn't either. However, it gets fucking old and it can take a lot of wind out of people's sails after years of living this way. We're so much more than that. We're smart, funny, deep human beings with personalities. We're attractive as women, not just as TS women. No we can't have kids, but there are huge number of guys over 40 who don't want (more?) kids anyway. I think almost any girl who has invested as much time and money into herself to be "passable" and attractive doesn't want to live a tranny life forever if at all.

That is why I admire that girl Jessica Rabbit or Body or whatever her name is this week. She is young and very passable and post-op. Good for her. Not only can she walk among you, she can do it just as naturally as any GG. It will be so much nicer to be that way without worrying about being beat down for having a dick or having a crush on the wrong guy. Mentally, TS are girls guys... It boils down to that being how most of us are wired.

I agree, and I think part of the whole TS relationship problem is that no one wants to come up with catagories and then put themselves into one because everyone inside this scene is just as judgemental as everyone outside this scene (NB "everyone" is a figure of speach, I don't literrally mean there's no one outside this group).

[pot]

Wake up - yet another day but anyhow a new day..... you allready lost yesterday so use today

[hondarobot]

Point one: From what I understand, the SRS approval process involves a ts girls understanding that the surgery is done for them, not for someone else. It's a personal decision.

Point two: If point one is true, why do some girls keep addressing the SRS issue endlessly on the Hung Angels forum?

Conclusion: TS girls who constantly bring SRS up as an issue, on this forum (as opposed to privately with a family member, significant other, surgeon, or therapist), seem to be dealing with issues beyond just gender transformation.

That's pretty obvious.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Vicki...If you, or any other Pre-op TS is fully intent on SRS, I'm all for it. I don't think the removal of your genitals is going to change the person you are. You are, to me, a pretty cool Lady.

Go for it, and God Bless You!!! :rock2 :rock2 :rock2

[justatransgirl]

Well the clinical definition of being a real TS at least partially involves abhoration of one's genitals. That is why I have said that a shemale is a distinctive term, not just a porn term. It is a full time M2F who decided to always keep her cock... which means she isn't a TS. Pre-op TS assumes that eventually she will be post-op. Non-op is a new, made up term which suggests a TS who never intends to have SRS.

Anyway, that said, I think most girls in porn are pre-op TS's who put it off for financial reasons. Because of the cycle of sex work, it always gets put off and never happens for most girls. I want a guy for a relationship who defines me as a human and a woman and not just by what is between my legs. Unfortunately, most guys into preop-TS do just that. (Note I said "most" you whiners).

It comes down to girls not wanting to be honest with you guys about what we want because in the sex industry, fans are fickle. "Oh the girl is a bottom? Write her off." "Oh the girl wants SRS? Write her off." Once the fantasy is ruined it is ruined. When guys have to write off a certain girl from their being "gang banged by trannies fantasy" it's over. If all the girls were honest, there would be a lot of disappointment from the fans of the genre. If all the fans were honest about what they really care about, the girls would have a lot of disappointment.

I could give a fuck about people saying they hate pussy or think fake vaginas are gross. That isn't going to change anyone's opinion about how they feel about their bodies. I have no problem living as a girl with a penis and I know Danielle doesn't either. However, it gets fucking old and it can take a lot of wind out of people's sails after years of living this way. We're so much more than that. We're smart, funny, deep human beings with personalities. We're attractive as women, not just as TS women. No we can't have kids, but there are huge number of guys over 40 who don't want (more?) kids anyway. I think almost any girl who has invested as much time and money into herself to be "passable" and attractive doesn't want to live a tranny life forever if at all.

That is why I admire that girl Jessica Rabbit or Body or whatever her name is this week. She is young and very passable and post-op. Good for her. Not only can she walk among you, she can do it just as naturally as any GG. It will be so much nicer to be that way without worrying about being beat down for having a dick or having a crush on the wrong guy. Mentally, TS are girls guys... It boils down to that being how most of us are wired.


Thank you Vicki for one of the best explainations I've read. I second everything she said. Particularly regarding not cutting off the money maker because then the work many of us have come to rely on is gone or will at best change substancially.

Now lets discuss this a bit further.

"Trans-sexual" has traditionally meant a person "in transition" from one sex to another - with the desired result of living transparently in the gender role and physical body (as close as possible) of the opposite sex.

* "Hirschfeld coined the term "Transvestite" in his seminal work on the matter, Die Transvestitien. In this work, he describes what is now known as transvestic fetishism as well as transsexuals.[7] In 1930, he supervised the first genital reassignment surgery to be reported in detail in a peer-reviewed journal on Lili Elbe of Denmark. The neo-Latin term “psychopathia transexualis” and English “transexual” (sic) were introduced by D. O. Cauldwell in 1949,[8] who subsequently also used the term “trans-sexual” in 1950.[9] (In 1969, Benjamin claimed to have been the first to use the term “transsexual” in a public lecture, which he gave in December 1953" (* copied from Wikipedia)

We would not have "transsexuals" in a clinical sense except for the advent of modern medicine and technology which enable people to make elective modifications to their body - that were not previously available and were really only marginally successful until about 10 years ago.

Now, as a result of a progression of gender and sexuality acceptance and exploration, and the growing proliferation of TS porn and TS prostitution we have many people, mostly in the sex industry who consider themselves transsexual but "non-op."

I believe we are seeing the creation of a new, third gender where the word "trans-sexual" denotes a person who "trancends" traditional gender roles and is comfortable in-between, or rather a mixture of the sexes.

And at what point does transition become deception?

Example, a man who wears makeup and gets silicone pumped and a boob job to work as a TS prostitute but has no intention of taking hormones or removing her moneymaker. She is providing a service that many men seem to want from TS prostitutes, a feminine appearance with the sexual abilities and sex drive of a male.

But is she any better or worse than the traditional femme transsexual escort who's desire is to serve a man as a woman exclusively. And who when the opportunity is right will take the final steps toward the creation of her final womanhood.

I'd submit that in a sexual environment both should be accorded equal respect with their activities and ultimate goals in life.

And I believe that we are all (even you guys) a part and pioneers of the evolution of humanity.

Hugs,
TS Jaime :-)

This outta get the thread moving... giggle

[Silcc69]

That was nice to hear out of you Vicki. But i am selfish SOB and would rather ya'll be my sex slaves. BTW Jessica Body........................She seems iuno she jsut looks to good to be true IMO.

[BXCanada]

Please accept my apology. I was unaware of your previous posts regarding the fact that your fiance is a transexual. I am sorry I over reacted but I guess I am sort of tired of so many guys faking their interests. I have been with Tg for almost 25 years. A few LTR and many adventures for which I have never paid. my first was an escort I met at a place in NYC called Trapeeze. (If anyone remembers it) Other than htat I have been lucky in my ability to make women feel comfortable adn feel hat I am paying attention to them as a person.
Once again, I apologize if I was out of line.

apology accepted :)

i do understand that there are so many people that are just into TS just for there own gratafication but that is not me. I love my fiance with all my heart and we are very happy together with the way she is.

to touch on what Vicki siad, and this is just me personaly.

i personaly may not be atracted to what a GG or a post-op TG as between there legs but that is not to say i think of them any different than any other woman. i just personally find a pre-op or non-op or shemale or whatever term anyone wants to use more apealing.

when i walk down the street on any given day if i see a woman that i find apealing i don't think to myself if she has a dick or not i just see a beautiful woman.

all women TG or GG are the same as far as i am concerned they are all beautiful and atractive but when it comes to someone i would rather have a relationship with well taht is different. a relationship involves love, understanding, atraction, and ofcourse sex. Elizabeth Hurley is totaly hot and sexy but i could never be involved in a realtionship with her not just because she is way out of my social league but because i woudl not fully be happy in the relationship. I don't make any bones about what i am atracted to and why should i or anyone else that is sexually atracted to a dick on a woman have to be made to feel like a pervert or other things because of it. why are only guys that are atracted to women with dicks and not atracted to pussy made to feel like our sexual needs are not of any real meaning.

my fiance and i are very happy together, she knows i love her just as she is and she made the decission before i even met here not to have the SRS operation not after. i had nothing to do with her makeing that decission.

Vicki you have always been one of my favourite stars, i hope you have a great future :)

[Vicki Richter]

Well thank you for that bit of confidence.