Close friend considering Tgirl status!!!..

[Night Rider]

A friend of mine that I grew up with at school with is seriously considering a sex change. I only found out about a year ago that he was gay and now he's thinking about going T! He's my only gay friend and i support him with whatever he wants to do. It just seems wierd that someone i used to hang about with as a boy might become a girl. He's only 22 so if he was to go through the process how long would it take for him to become tgirl. haha this is freakin me out just talking about it. My biggest fear is to become attracted to him/her when its complete. Is that normal for me to feel like this or am i just being selfish. Even if i did feel an attraction it would be 'jerry springer material' and just way too weird!!!! :o

[flabbybody]

your friend is transgendered, not gay. If you're not aware of the difference, I hope you're not giving her advice.

[Night Rider]

if u open your eyes you'll see that he is thinking about it..and i said i'll support him FULLY so if you're not aware of what im talking about then dont bother to be a cheeky cunt

[Wombat]

He needs your support mate, not you trying to roger him the moment he shaves his legs and slips on a skirt...

[flabbybody]

A gay person has no interest whatsoever in gender reassignment. To confuse gayness with transgenderism is common with the uninformed public.

[Night Rider]

He needs your support mate, not you trying to roger him the moment he shaves his legs and slips on a skirt...

its like talking to chimps, for the 3rd time "i FULLY support him" and the last thing i want is to fancy him if he turns out to be a fit Tgirl because we're good mates and it might fuck things up...do u know what i mean!

[Night Rider]

A gay person has no interest whatsoever in gender reassignment. To confuse gayness with transgenderism is common with the uninformed public.

I understand the point ur trying to make but its irrelevant to what i said. So are u trying to say at the min he's not gay because he's thinking about a sex change????

[Wombat]

its like talking to chimps...



Here, have a banana...

[Night Rider]

save it for a substitute dildo

[justatransgirl]

Yes honey. Respectfully suggest you need to educate yourself a bit more. Try looking at TSRoadmap.com

You don't "decide" to "go" trans - you are or you aren't.

That said, for a long time I sort of hid as a gay guy. I needed to be a woman and was at every opportunity, but I was not ready for the social stigma of outting myself as trans.

Looking back it was wrong for me to do that, both in some relationships and for myself.

I wish your friend the best - link her up with this site and TSRoadmap.

Hugs,
TS Jamie :-)

[Ecstatic]

Seems to me there are two quite separate issues that Night Rider has raised:

1) His friend is "thinking about going T": sounds like the friend is the one who's in doubt about whether he is trans or not, and as you say, Jamie, Night Rider should point him/her to TSRoadmap. But this doesn't sound to me like Night Rider is confused about the difference between gay and trans, but his friend who is unsure.

2) His reaction to his friend's transition, if and when it happens. I can see where this would be confusing, and something that Night Rider would have to sort, but not because he's confused about gay v. trans, but simply because he would feel weird being attracted to his friend as a woman.

[Night Rider]

I didnt mean to cause anyone offence and i know where your coming from Jamie. I was just mentioning that i found out he was gay not so long ago (but if my friend does figure out that they are female trapped in a males body, then my choice of words were wrong)

Thanks for the advice Jamie! the rest can fuck off

[Night Rider]

ecstatic you've hit the nail on the head!!

[El Nino]

Will you be into sucking her cock now? lol

[Night Rider]

what is 'el nino' spanish for..oh yes 'the kid'


http://www.hindu.com/fr/2006/10/27/images/2006102701410101.jpg

[justatransgirl]

Will you be into sucking her cock now? lol

Only if he brings cash... :-)

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

PS - Yes Ecstatic I agree. And NR - don't worry about it. Just be her friend - nothing has changed, your friend is still the same person - and having your friendship is probably quite important to her. Just the fact that she's confiding in you is huge. I'd try to point her toward some gender counseling - with a counselor who is trans aware - not all threapists are. There may also be a support group in her area - check with the local LGBT Center.

I've been very fortunate in my transition - I have four lifelong friends dating to jr high school. ALL have stood with me - and none treat me any different that I've noticed. I probably wouldn't have survived my transition without several of them. So please be the best friend to your friend that you can be - it may be more important than you know.
Hugs.

[Night Rider]

Cheers Jamie, the friendship was never in doubt by the way! But it is a shock to me, that's all. I'll keep u posted!

[BeardedOne]

Night Rider, don't take too much of the lighthearted jabs here personally, nor should you consider it an 'attack' when someone misreads your post (And joke 'em if they can't take a fuck if they are serious in their pokes).

Kudos to you for being a close enough friend that he/she/sie confided in you. I'm sure that you know that such are no small thing weighing on a person's mind and heart.

I agree with Jamie that a person who is Trans doesn't decide to be Trans, but there are many decisions that a Trans person makes on the road to being who they are. The route is never the same and, as odd/bad as it may sound, some do start out "gay" (I use " " because the definition morphs according to the person/situation).

I've known a number of Trans people in my life, both M2F and F2M (Not just via HA and Eros :P ) and have seen/experienced as their friend some of the trials they've experienced. In some situations, they followed the "gay" route for a while, simply matching genitalia to that which was most comfortable, but eventually realized (And yes, decided) that this wasn't the right path for them.

As for the pre-T/post-T possibilities of attraction, I can't speak from experience as the ones that I was attracted to affected me on all levels of the gender spectrum (Being bi/omni, the plumbing tends to matter less to me than the personality) and so I was drawn to them both before and after they transitioned (And this was not in every situation).

If your friend does transition and you find that you are attracted to the new model, maybe that's what was meant to be.

Best of luck to your friend, whatever road they may take, and to you, for being a good friend.

[Night Rider]

Cheers beardedone means a lot mate

[rt_saurus]

Does your friend know that you are into T girls? Perhaps it's a way of getting closer to you... ;-)

[Night Rider]

Does your friend know that you are into T girls? Perhaps it's a way of getting closer to you... ;-)

yea he does..(i call im he still, slate me if u want) ive had a chat with him about it since posting and he's still undecided..i gave him the info u guys told me about and hopefully that he can make a sensible judgement on whether he wants to go through with it..i think it would be a bit extreme getting a sex change just to get closer to someone lol..but the more i think about it the more i think it might be the wrong decision for him for the reason that if you sort of know if thats what u want or not..but maybe its just because here in the UK its not as common than america and he's worried about acceptance...any of u girls have any doubts before the transition or was it crystal clear what u wanted???

[Night Rider]

Does your friend know that you are into T girls? Perhaps it's a way of getting closer to you... ;-)

yea he does..(i call im he still, slate me if u want) ive had a chat with him about it since posting and he's still undecided..i gave him the info u guys told me about and hopefully that he can make a sensible judgement on whether he wants to go through with it..i think it would be a bit extreme getting a sex change just to get closer to someone lol..but the more i think about it the more i think it might be the wrong decision for him for the reason that if you sort of know if thats what u want or not..but maybe its just because here in the UK its not as common than america and he's worried about acceptance...any of u girls have any doubts before the transition or was it crystal clear what u wanted???Omg, this about you. :shock:

Listen Evil Nick, take you and your oversized head to fuck out of my threads.

Thanks.

[vegasboy]

Nicole,
does it ever bother you that when you have these conversations some of what you say is true, but most of it is just for a vendetta. For instance, the guy that Lust was accused of posting as? I'm not interested in what one moderator said in chat (unless he confirms it by ip address in here), it should be so obvious to anyone who's read either of their posts that they're nothing alike style-wise or content-wise. I say this not as a challenge, but I would be shocked if it ends up being confirmed that loosenoose is a pseudonym for Lust.

And now you have this hunch of yours based on almost nothing at all, except you think it would be funny and mean-spirited if it were true. It's really nauseating that you and some of the other girls here can get away with some of the most wanton abuse, dubious standards of fairness, and exclusive use of any slur....meanwhile threaten to ban anyone who says anything you don't like.

Notice I haven't insulted you in this post. But is there going to be any accountability when all of your ridiculous hunches turn out to be wrong?

[Legend]

A friend of mine that I grew up with at school with is seriously considering a sex change. I only found out about a year ago that he was gay and now he's thinking about going T! He's my only gay friend and i support him with whatever he wants to do. It just seems wierd that someone i used to hang about with as a boy might become a girl. He's only 22 so if he was to go through the process how long would it take for him to become tgirl. haha this is freakin me out just talking about it. My biggest fear is to become attracted to him/her when its complete. Is that normal for me to feel like this or am i just being selfish. Even if i did feel an attraction it would be 'jerry springer material' and just way too weird!!!! :o

"It's fun to pretend"

Stewie Griffin

[Night Rider]

A friend of mine that I grew up with at school with is seriously considering a sex change. I only found out about a year ago that he was gay and now he's thinking about going T! He's my only gay friend and i support him with whatever he wants to do. It just seems wierd that someone i used to hang about with as a boy might become a girl. He's only 22 so if he was to go through the process how long would it take for him to become tgirl. haha this is freakin me out just talking about it. My biggest fear is to become attracted to him/her when its complete. Is that normal for me to feel like this or am i just being selfish. Even if i did feel an attraction it would be 'jerry springer material' and just way too weird!!!! :o

"It's fun to pretend"

Stewie Griffin

Believe me or not, do I seem like the sort of person that gives a fuck?

I swear on my Mum's life and if she died I'd be an orphan!

Just you keep pretending you're not gay for shagging club kids and all will be well.

[peggygee]

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: Close friend considering Tgirl status!!!..

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A friend of mine that I grew up with at school with is seriously considering a sex change. I only found out about a year ago that he was gay and now he's thinking about going T! He's my only gay friend and i support him with whatever he wants to do. It just seems wierd that someone i used to hang about with as a boy might become a girl.

He's only 22 so if he was to go through the process how long would it take for him to become tgirl. haha this is freakin me out just talking about it. My biggest fear is to become attracted to him/her when its complete. Is that normal for me to feel like this or am i just being selfish. Even if i did feel an attraction it would be 'jerry springer material' and just way too weird!!!!



NR, I 'm noticing that this was one of your earlier posts, roughly 9 days
after you arrived here.

I am wondering what you have learned in the 4 months and 5K posts
about transgenderism.

How do now feel about the question that you have asked, and have you
grown from your postings and the responses to them.

[Legend]

A friend of mine that I grew up with at school with is seriously considering a sex change. I only found out about a year ago that he was gay and now he's thinking about going T! He's my only gay friend and i support him with whatever he wants to do. It just seems wierd that someone i used to hang about with as a boy might become a girl. He's only 22 so if he was to go through the process how long would it take for him to become tgirl. haha this is freakin me out just talking about it. My biggest fear is to become attracted to him/her when its complete. Is that normal for me to feel like this or am i just being selfish. Even if i did feel an attraction it would be 'jerry springer material' and just way too weird!!!! :o

"It's fun to pretend"

Stewie Griffin

Believe me or not, do I seem like the sort of person that gives a fuck?

I swear on my Mum's life and if she died I'd be an orphan!

Just you keep pretending you're not gay for shagging club kids and all will be well.

Everything that comes out of your drunken mouth is a lie from your suppose car accident to this my freind is a ts now bullshit.You seriuosly need some fucking help.


"I swear on my Mum's life and if she died I'd be an orphan!"
Your a fucking liar you would say anything to get people to beleive all your bullshit.and using your mom to get people to beleive your made up shit is even low for a snake like you,"mum"must really be proud of her son.

[Night Rider]

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: Close friend considering Tgirl status!!!..

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A friend of mine that I grew up with at school with is seriously considering a sex change. I only found out about a year ago that he was gay and now he's thinking about going T! He's my only gay friend and i support him with whatever he wants to do. It just seems wierd that someone i used to hang about with as a boy might become a girl.

He's only 22 so if he was to go through the process how long would it take for him to become tgirl. haha this is freakin me out just talking about it. My biggest fear is to become attracted to him/her when its complete. Is that normal for me to feel like this or am i just being selfish. Even if i did feel an attraction it would be 'jerry springer material' and just way too weird!!!!



NR, I 'm noticing that this was one of your earlier posts, roughly 9 days
after you arrived here.

I am wondering what you have learned in the 4 months and 5K posts
about transgenderism.

How do now feel about the question that you have asked, and have you
grown from your postings and the responses to them.

You could say 9days or 450 posts, it's up to you.

What have I learned?

I've learned that not everyone that goes through with it is truly a woman. I've also learnt that they're unique in the fact that they've had experience living as both sexes and they've gained a lot of strength this. I've more respect for T's now after reading the troubles you have to go through to achieve your ultimate goal in being a woman.

On a side note, I've discovered some have emotional difficulties with regards to fitting into society which is understandible. In my opinion a lot of their problems lyes with the ignorance of society as well as in their own self conscious.

I've stated more than once that I've more respect for T's than GG's, although I will still treat them on an equal level.

[Night Rider]

A friend of mine that I grew up with at school with is seriously considering a sex change. I only found out about a year ago that he was gay and now he's thinking about going T! He's my only gay friend and i support him with whatever he wants to do. It just seems wierd that someone i used to hang about with as a boy might become a girl. He's only 22 so if he was to go through the process how long would it take for him to become tgirl. haha this is freakin me out just talking about it. My biggest fear is to become attracted to him/her when its complete. Is that normal for me to feel like this or am i just being selfish. Even if i did feel an attraction it would be 'jerry springer material' and just way too weird!!!! :o

"It's fun to pretend"

Stewie Griffin

Believe me or not, do I seem like the sort of person that gives a fuck?

I swear on my Mum's life and if she died I'd be an orphan!

Just you keep pretending you're not gay for shagging club kids and all will be well.

Everything that comes out of your drunken mouth is a lie from your suppose car accident to this my freind is a ts now bullshit.You seriuosly need some fucking help.


"I swear on my Mum's life and if she died I'd be an orphan!"
Your a fucking liar you would say anything to get people to beleive all your bullshit.and using your mom to get people to beleive your made up shit is even low for a snake like you,"mum"must really be proud of her son.

Listen you little fucking spiceboy, do I need to prove everything to you fragile ass? You questioned that I didn't have a car accident - I posted the sickline....you bitch on now that I took it down because of my personal details on it but the writing is still on the thread and someone commented so you're a fucking liar. Now do I need to get my friend on here and tell you the story? You'd probably fancy him but even though he's gay, he's nowhere near to being as fem as you....that's the truth.

[Legend]

A friend of mine that I grew up with at school with is seriously considering a sex change. I only found out about a year ago that he was gay and now he's thinking about going T! He's my only gay friend and i support him with whatever he wants to do. It just seems wierd that someone i used to hang about with as a boy might become a girl. He's only 22 so if he was to go through the process how long would it take for him to become tgirl. haha this is freakin me out just talking about it. My biggest fear is to become attracted to him/her when its complete. Is that normal for me to feel like this or am i just being selfish. Even if i did feel an attraction it would be 'jerry springer material' and just way too weird!!!! :o

"It's fun to pretend"

Stewie Griffin

Believe me or not, do I seem like the sort of person that gives a fuck?

I swear on my Mum's life and if she died I'd be an orphan!

Just you keep pretending you're not gay for shagging club kids and all will be well.

Everything that comes out of your drunken mouth is a lie from your suppose car accident to this my freind is a ts now bullshit.You seriuosly need some fucking help.


"I swear on my Mum's life and if she died I'd be an orphan!"
Your a fucking liar you would say anything to get people to beleive all your bullshit.and using your mom to get people to beleive your made up shit is even low for a snake like you,"mum"must really be proud of her son.

Listen you little fucking spiceboy, do I need to prove everything to you fragile ass? You questioned that I didn't have a car accident - I posted the sickline....you bitch on now that I took it down because of my personal details on it but the writing is still on the thread and someone commented so you're a fucking liar. Now do I need to get my friend on here and tell you the story? You'd probably fancy him but even though he's gay, he's nowhere near to being as fem as you....that's the truth.


You don't have to prove any thing because everything that comes out of your mouth is a bunch of shit,you used that accident to excuse your excessive posting.That shit you just feed peggy was a bunch of bologna you have no respect for transgender women any clown that would refer them to as still being a males in an argument doesn't have the right to participate in their community.


What would you expect from a loser that would use his own mother to get his bullshit over.

[Night Rider]

Nicole,
does it ever bother you that when you have these conversations some of what you say is true, but most of it is just for a vendetta. For instance, the guy that Lust was accused of posting as? I'm not interested in what one moderator said in chat (unless he confirms it by ip address in here), it should be so obvious to anyone who's read either of their posts that they're nothing alike style-wise or content-wise. I say this not as a challenge, but I would be shocked if it ends up being confirmed that loosenoose is a pseudonym for Lust.

And now you have this hunch of yours based on almost nothing at all, except you think it would be funny and mean-spirited if it were true. It's really nauseating that you and some of the other girls here can get away with some of the most wanton abuse, dubious standards of fairness, and exclusive use of any slur....meanwhile threaten to ban anyone who says anything you don't like.

Notice I haven't insulted you in this post. But is there going to be any accountability when all of your ridiculous hunches turn out to be wrong?My info on Lust came from a mod. Anyone who was in the chat room can tell you that. Ask Kelly.

And my suspicions on NR are from the gut. But it turned out that I was right about Black Magic, and that was just a hunch too.

STFU mega-dome nobody gives a fuck what you think. So you think I'm a wannabe transsexual now LMFAOOOOO

[vegasboy]

My info on Lust came from a mod. Anyone who was in the chat room can tell you that. Ask Kelly.

And my suspicions on NR are from the gut. But it turned out that I was right about Black Magic, and that was just a hunch too.
As for your hearing this from a mod let me say....I believe you. I don't know the context or anything about what was said, but I don't think you're lying. That said, I can't see it at all. I don't know what the motivation would be to say this in chat, whether as a joke or a hunch of his own. But I feel pretty strongly that it's hard to fake that kind of difference in persona. Time will tell.

[trish]

JUST AN INTERESTING CALCULATION:

It’s reported in http://www.tg-sienna.org/Transgender101.html that in the U.S. there is one transgendered person for ever 12000 people. The probability that a randomly chosen person is transgendered is therefore 0.0000833. The probability that a randomly chosen person isn’t transgendered is 0.99991666.

Let’s say through grade school and high school you had a 1000 friends, a very generous estimate. Let number those friends; 1, 2, 3, … 1000. The probability the friend #1 isn’t transgender today is 0.99991666. The probability that friend #2 isn’t is also 0.99991666. The probability that neither isn’t transgender is the product 0.99991666 x 0.99991666 = 0.99983334027778.

In like fashion, the probability that none of your 1000 friends is transgender is the thousand fold product of 0.99991666; i.e 0.99991666 to the 1000th power, which is approximately 0.92. That means 92% of the population doesn’t have any old classmates who are transgender.

[Night Rider]

You don't have to prove any thing because everything that comes out of your mouth is a bunch of shit,you used that accident to excuse your excessive posting.That shit you just feed peggy was a bunch of bologna you have no respect for transgender women any clown that would refer them to as still being a males in an argument doesn't have the right to participate in their community.


What would you expect from a loser that would use his own mother to get his bullshit over.

There you go, talking more and more shit. I've already proven I had the accident unless I stole one of those slips and filled it in myself you fucking prick.

Once again, I coudn't give a fuck if you don't believe my stance on transsexualism. If a fat, ugly GG called me a fatherless bastard and a faggot, I'd call her a fat, ugly bitch. Too many people walk on eggshells here, if you're a bitch you're a bitch, just talk your obsesive whineyness as far away from me as possible....it's draining.

Go do your chores kid...

[vegasboy]

JUST AN INTERESTING CALCULATION:

It’s reported in http://www.tg-sienna.org/Transgender101.html that in the U.S. there is one transgendered person for ever 12000 people. The probability that a randomly chosen person is transgendered is therefore 0.0000833. The probability that a randomly chosen person isn’t transgendered is 0.99991666.

Let’s say through grade school and high school you had a 1000 friends, a very generous estimate. Let number those friends; 1, 2, 3, … 1000. The probability the friend #1 isn’t transgender today is 0.99991666. The probability that friend #2 isn’t is also 0.99991666. The probability that neither isn’t transgender is the product 0.99991666 x 0.99991666 = 0.99983334027778.

In like fashion, the probability that none of your 1000 friends is transgender is the thousand fold product of 0.99991666; i.e 0.99991666 to the 1000th power, which is approximately 0.92. That means 92% of the population doesn’t have any old classmates who are transgender.
Good point. 8% isn't that small a number though. And you were being generous with the thousand friends, but with this calculation, it's not that rare that it sheds enough light on the argument to call someone a liar. Even if it were 1%, it still wouldn't be enough.

Haha, but you didn't say that was your conclusion. I'm getting ahead of myself. That is an interesting stat.

[lust4ts]

My info on Lust came from a mod. Anyone who was in the chat room can tell you that. Ask Kelly.

And my suspicions on NR are from the gut. But it turned out that I was right about Black Magic, and that was just a hunch too.
As for your hearing this from a mod let me say....I believe you. I don't know the context or anything about what was said, but I don't think you're lying. That said, I can't see it at all. I don't know what the motivation would be to say this in chat, whether as a joke or a hunch of his own. But I feel pretty strongly that it's hard to fake that kind of difference in persona. Time will tell.


If I was going to pretend to be anyone, which I wouldn't he would be more than four foot vegas.

I have said it and I will say it again.

I SWEAR ON MY MOTHER AND WHOLE FAMILYS LIFE, I HAVE ONE HANDLE HERE "lust4ts".

[Night Rider]

JUST AN INTERESTING CALCULATION:

It’s reported in http://www.tg-sienna.org/Transgender101.html that in the U.S. there is one transgendered person for ever 12000 people. The probability that a randomly chosen person is transgendered is therefore 0.0000833. The probability that a randomly chosen person isn’t transgendered is 0.99991666.

Let’s say through grade school and high school you had a 1000 friends, a very generous estimate. Let number those friends; 1, 2, 3, … 1000. The probability the friend #1 isn’t transgender today is 0.99991666. The probability that friend #2 isn’t is also 0.99991666. The probability that neither isn’t transgender is the product 0.99991666 x 0.99991666 = 0.99983334027778.

In like fashion, the probability that none of your 1000 friends is transgender is the thousand fold product of 0.99991666; i.e 0.99991666 to the 1000th power, which is approximately 0.92. That means 92% of the population doesn’t have any old classmates who are transgender.

Maybe Stephen Hawkings would find that interesting Trish but I don't. Save your energy for your cartoon thread.

He didn't go through with it so get back to the drawing board.

[vegasboy]

If I was going to pretend to be anyone, which I wouldn't he would be more than four foot vegas.

I have said it and I will say it again.

I SWEAR ON MY MOTHER AND WHOLE FAMILYS LIFE, I HAVE ONE HANDLE HERE "lust4ts".
I don't have any doubts. I don't think it's you. I was saying that I don't think Nicole is lying that someone told her that; it's just not accurate info IMO.

That kid loosenoose has a completely different way of identifying himself. You write differently as well.

[trish]

And you were being generous with the thousand friends

that's true. had i gone with say 300 friends (which might be the typical size of a graduating class) we'd find that 97.5% of the population doesn't have any transgender classmates. Still 2.5% > 1.0%.

[Night Rider]

And you were being generous with the thousand friends

that's true. had i gone with say 300 friends (which might be the typical size of a graduating class) we'd find that 97.5% of the population doesn't have any transgender classmates. Still 2.5% > 1.0%.

Maybe he was just going to transition for attention like some here. I'll ask.

[irishgirl]

Does your friend know that you are into T girls? Perhaps it's a way of getting closer to you... ;-)

yea he does..(i call im he still, slate me if u want) ive had a chat with him about it since posting and he's still undecided..i gave him the info u guys told me about and hopefully that he can make a sensible judgement on whether he wants to go through with it..i think it would be a bit extreme getting a sex change just to get closer to someone lol..but the more i think about it the more i think it might be the wrong decision for him for the reason that if you sort of know if thats what u want or not..but maybe its just because here in the UK its not as common than america and he's worried about acceptance...any of u girls have any doubts before the transition or was it crystal clear what u wanted???

Seriously, I don't know you, but this sounds like it's about you.

It's not a deal, if your 22 stay on hormones for a year and you will look like a girl. Simple enough!

[Night Rider]

Does your friend know that you are into T girls? Perhaps it's a way of getting closer to you... ;-)

yea he does..(i call im he still, slate me if u want) ive had a chat with him about it since posting and he's still undecided..i gave him the info u guys told me about and hopefully that he can make a sensible judgement on whether he wants to go through with it..i think it would be a bit extreme getting a sex change just to get closer to someone lol..but the more i think about it the more i think it might be the wrong decision for him for the reason that if you sort of know if thats what u want or not..but maybe its just because here in the UK its not as common than america and he's worried about acceptance...any of u girls have any doubts before the transition or was it crystal clear what u wanted???

Seriously, I don't know you, but this sounds like it's about you.

It's not a deal, if your 22 stay on hormones for a year and you will look like a girl. Simple enough!

LMAO this is starting to get amusing, if I wanted to be a woman do you not think I'd be taking part in the discussions etc....get a grip