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Kriss

10-02-2007, 03:49 AM

Was Anna nicole smith a victim of trauma based mind control? Was stern her 'handler'? and was she ritually killed along with her first born?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-891321698051955222&q=ANNA+NICOLE&total=5500&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

Coroner

10-02-2007, 05:38 AM

Dude, what happened to you?

DJ_Asia

10-02-2007, 05:58 AM

I enjoy listening to plausible conspiracy theories just as much if not more so than the next guy.However someone needs to tell the host and his guest that any message that theyre trying to convey would come across with alot more credence if they would just wash their hair once a month.

dan_drade

10-02-2007, 06:08 AM

chefmike

10-02-2007, 06:18 AM

Did Elvis shoot JFK? And why did the CIA bump off Liberace? Did the Illuminati have Princess Di whacked?

trish

10-02-2007, 06:27 AM

Shit!!! I didn't know Elvis shot JFK. Now that you point it out it makes soooooo much sense!!! After he was shot JFK's missing brain matter was replaced with sand bags and he lived out his life in an old folks home with the real Elvis, not the one who shot him. Hey, we're thinkin' with sand here!!

Kriss

10-02-2007, 07:53 AM

Did Elvis shoot JFK? And why did the CIA bump off Liberace? Did the Illuminati have Princess Di whacked?

O.k., so the presentation of the video /cable show could be better and that guy's tash make him look so FBI but You should look outside mainstream news. With our 24 hour coverage these days, Theres a lot that DOES get on mainstream TV news but it only gets played once if it contradicts the official line. Like on 911 when BBC in england reported the collapse of building 7 a full 20 MINUTES BEFORE it happened, The smoking building was even visible behind the english reporter's shoulder (she didnt know building 7 from 4,5 or 6).

Most people in england have never even heard of building 7 , or that 3 buildings "collapsed" that day, or that the CIA, and the emergency HQ where they ran the operation were housed there.

I saw an interesting bit of FOX news broadcast on 911, Dan Rather reported that FBI had arrested 2 men and discovered a truck full of EXPLOSIVES at the george washington bridge. That bit of news only aired ONCE. see it 3 minutes into this youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60AraWdOVfg

You should know by now, The DRIVER shot JFK with his left hand , over his shoulder as he momentarily slowed the car and turned to shoot

Yes the illuminati did ritually kill Diana

Next question...........

qeuqheeg222

10-02-2007, 08:25 AM

she took the boat from the bahamas to ftr.lauderdales whereshe met one rush limbaugh and the two went to the many "pain management clinics"....oxy for one and all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chefmike

10-02-2007, 03:20 PM

Kriss

10-02-2007, 05:17 PM

You should look outside mainstream news.

There's a big difference between "looking outside mainstream news" and buying into every crackpot conspiracy theory from whatever wingnut, no matter how absurd.

So I suppose that a bunch of guys who can't fly, overpowering 4 planes full of Americans with BOX CUTTERS isn't a "conspiracy theory"?

Lets play some word association

BURGER ................... "KING"

BIG ...................... "MAC" (tho i would have accepted "tits")

NATIONAL ........... "SECURITY"

CONSPIRACY ......... "THEORY"

You have been conditioned to associate the word CONSPIRACY with the word THEORY.

Diogo

10-02-2007, 05:41 PM

^^^hence people take a shower, brush teeth, go to school! conditioning is part of life.... and you have a point people with the truth don't necesarily have to adhere to an "image", simppy because even the Pope (la papa) who wore a dress and wore more rings than a NYC ho, spoke the truth to some, and lies to others... But "subterranean caverns" and "illuminati bloodlines", but making loonie associations, just speaks KAKA to the intelligence.... Then again I have been conditiones for the last 21 years by Disney.. LMFAO

trish

10-02-2007, 06:16 PM

So I suppose that a bunch of guys who can't fly, overpowering 4 planes full of Americans with BOX CUTTERS isn't a "conspiracy theory"?

You’re right, it ISN’T a “conspiracy theory,” It's a conspiracy. More accurately, it’s an event that was conspired by a relatively small and diffuse web of narrow-minded fundamentalists. The “organization” would’ve remained small and diffuse had the US not played right into their hands after the event. Conspiracy theories of the sort you have been posting postulate the existence of vast societies of uber-powerful men which have secretly dominated world politics since time immemorial. Al Qaeda is not that organization. By the way, why is “BOX CUTTERS” capitalized? Are box cutters somehow especially significant to your argument?

Lets play some word association

BURGER ................... "and fries"

BIG ...................... "BANG"

NATIONAL ........... "SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE FOR ALL"

CONSPIRACY ......... "NUTS"

You have been conditioned to associate the word CONSPIRACY with the word THEORY.

Nope.

TJT

10-02-2007, 08:02 PM

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biguy4tvtscd

10-02-2007, 08:18 PM

Just doing my part as a consumer advocate here...could they please remove the term "science" from the show's name?

That show is about as scientific as ID.

biguy4tvtscd

10-02-2007, 08:21 PM

<nothing to see here>

TJT!!!! The exalted elders will NOT be pleased. The speaking of the unspoken is expressly forbidden under bylaw 234.8s

Kriss

10-02-2007, 09:01 PM

By the way, why is “BOX CUTTERS” capitalized? Are box cutters somehow especially significant to your argument?

Do you think that I or You could overpower for example a bar full of people with one box cutter? How can a hundred odd people NOT attack and overpower these supposed 'terrorists'

The box cutters are certainly less significant than BUILDING 7, THE EXCERSICES THAT MADE NORAD STAND DOWN, THE HUGE PROFITS MADE BY THE BUSH CABAL, THE TRUCK PACKED WITH EXPLOSIVES DISCOVERED ON THE GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE, THE TOTAL LACK OF PLANE WRECKAGE AT THE SUPPOSED 'CRASH SITE', THE LACK OF PLANE AND CCTV FOOTAGE AT PENTAGON, THE FACT THAT THE 'PLANE ' THAT "DISINTEGRATED" AT THE PENTAGON THUS LEAVING NO LARGE DEBRIS, ALSO SOMEHOW MANAGED TO PENETRATE RIGHT THROUGH TO THE INNER RING OF THE PENTAGON, JUST LIKE A CRUISE MISSILE,

THE 45% ANGLE SMOOTH CUT EDGES CLEARLY VISIBLE ON THE REMAINING UPRIGHT SUPPORT COLUMNS FOR DAYS AT GROUND ZERO, THE RESULT OF THERMATE WHICH IS PLACED IN A STRIP , DIAGONALLY SO AS TO MAKE THE BUILDING COLLAPSE IN ON ITSELF, THE 'PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY' DOCUMENT CALLING FOR A "NEW PEARL HARBOUR",

THE CONVENIENCE OF THE DATE IN AMERICAN PUBLIC CONSIOUSNESS.....911. THAT DATE NEVER MEANT MUCH HERE IN BRITAIN AS WE HAVE ALWAYS LISTED THE DAY BEFORE THE MONTH SO TO US 9/11 MEANS THE 9th OF NOVEMBER, The 11th SEPT is 11/9/2001 TO US BRITS. THIS IS RELEVANT TO WHY MI5 DETONATED THE 4 BOMBS ON 7/7/2005. THIS DATE CONVENIENTLY HAS HUGE IMPACT BOTH SIDES OF THE ATLANTIC. THESE NUMBERS HAVE SIGNIFICANCE IN CULTS AND RELIGEOUS FOLKLORE, HENCE THE RASTAFARIAN NOTION OF 'two sevens clash' (album by joseph hill AKA culture), many people expected big things on 7/7/1977, but it never happened.

TO COMPREHEND WHAT THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT DID (IN COLLABORATION WITH BUSH) ON 7/7, YOU MUST KNOW THAT A MAN NAMED PETER POWERS APPEARED (JUST ONCE) ON I.T.N. NEWS THE EVENING OF 7/7 AND TOLD HOW HIS CRISIS MANAGEMENT COMPANY VISOR CONSULTANTS WERE RUNNING A SIMULATED EXCERSICE INVOLVING 1000 PEOPLE IN LONDON THAT MORNING, A JOINT EXCERSISE BY POLICE, AMBULANCE, HOSPITALS, FIRE RESCUE , ETC. ON 7/7 PETER POWERS STATED ON LIVE TELEVISION THAT THE EXCERSISE HE WAS PLANNING UNTIL 2am THE NIGHT BEFORE WAS A SIMULATION OF 3 BOMB ATTACKS ON UNDERGROUND TRAINS AND ONE LONDON BUS AT THE EXACT SAME LOCATIONS AT THE EXACT SAME TIME!!! When asked to clarify by the shocked reporter interviewing him "sorry, hang on , you are saying that you were running an EXCERSISE based on bomb attacks on the SAME stations where it happened?" PETER POWERS REPLIED "precisely"
He REPEATED HIMSELF ON 'BBC RADIO FIVE LIVE' LATER THAT EVENING , AGAIN SAYING THAT HE WAS RUNNING AN EXCERCISE BASED ON "precisely" THE SCENARIO THAT OCCURRED THAT DAY.
COINCIDENCE?
NO MAINSTREAM NEWS AGENCY HAS EVER MENTIONED PETER POWER OR THE EXCERSISE SINCE 7/7 2005, TOTAL NEWS BLACKOUT ON THE SUBJECT, WHICH IS ENTIRELY LEGAL UNDER THE CIVIL CONTINGENCES ACT (our version of the 'patriot' act).
COINCIDENCE?

ALL THAT STUFF IS MORE PERTINENT THAN THE 'box cutters'

Are they still claiming that a piece of 'terrorist' passport somehow survived the fire and was found at ground zero? The police claimed to find I.D. of all 4 attackers on 7/7. They even found one man's I.D. at 2 , possibly 3 of the bomb locations. They bought return tickets into LONDON , one was even seen arguing with the ticket clerk about the price of his rail ticket.

Trish you are intelligent but you been had! Theres no shame in that, we all been had in someway, in fact in many , many ways. I believed them , UNTIL I HEARD ABOUT BUILDING 7. Larry silverstien took out that insurance policy (biggest policy EVER) JUST MONTHS BEFORE. Who was on the board of that insurance company? MARVIN BUSH! Silverstien got his money, paid in full!

Kriss

10-02-2007, 09:04 PM

You’re right, it ISN’T a “conspiracy theory,” It's a conspiracy. More accurately, it’s an event that was conspired by a relatively small and diffuse web of narrow-minded fundamentalists. The “organization” would’ve remained small and diffuse had the US not played right into their hands after the event.[/b]

TJT

10-03-2007, 07:38 AM

He's askin' for it. He'll be snooping into the "Skippy/Jiff" connection next if he's not stopped.

chefmike

10-03-2007, 03:56 PM

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

Kriss

10-03-2007, 04:55 PM

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

What is that supposed to mean?
Are you a disinformation bot chef mike?
which part of what i wrote do you have a problem with?

NewYorker

10-03-2007, 05:47 PM

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

What is that supposed to mean?
Are you a disinformation bot chef mike?
which part of what i wrote do you have a problem with?

It's a quote from a 1970's scifi movie called Soylent Green starring Charlton Heston. It was set in a future New York where the worlds supply of food was running out and people ate colored soylent chips. The most popular chip is the color green. The quote should explain itself now.

As for your list of suspect items, the truck with explosives turned out to be misreporting, there was plane wreckage at every site, including the plane where a hundred odd people did overpower the terrosists, There is a plane in the footage at the pentagon, the thing is going so fast its only there for a couple of frames but it's there. As for 9/11, it was chosen presicely for its significance to the American people.

The problem with your claim is that it suffers from the same problems as most conspiracy theories, it simply requires too many people to work. Yes, you can go with your claim that its controled by a small elite group but ultimately too many people would have been required to pull off all of the events you're claiming are connected for it to remain secret. Look how badly Bush and Blair mismanaged the war, do you honestly think they could have effectively pulled this off and kept it secret? And they haven't exactly benefited from it either.

Kriss

10-03-2007, 07:10 PM

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

What is that supposed to mean?

It's a quote from a 1970's scifi movie called Soylent Green starring Charlton Heston. It was set in a future New York where the worlds supply of food was running out and people ate colored soylent chips. The most popular chip is the color green. The quote should explain itself now.

Yes, i got the movie reference, I was actually asking CHEF MIKE

The problem with your claim is that it suffers from the same problems as most conspiracy theories, it simply requires too many people to work. Yes, you can go with your claim that its controled by a small elite group but ultimately too many people would have been required to pull off all of the events you're claiming are connected for it to remain secret.

You really like the word "CLAIM" don't you? This is a common trick used in countless news reports every day. Most people will not be aware of the subliminal use of N.L.P. NEURO LINGUISTIC PROGRAMMING. They REPORT it and then we REPEAT it to ourselves and eachother until it becomes accepted as fact. By repeatedly portraying the OFFICIAL line as fact...........

there was plane wreckage at every site,

There is a plane in the footage at the pentagon,

....... And using words like THEORY and CLAIM when referring to the UN-OFFICIAL line, the viewer/reader is tricked ever so slightly BUT REPEATEDLY into seeing the events from a skewed perpective.

Look how badly Bush and Blair mismanaged the war, do you honestly think they could have effectively pulled this off and kept it secret?

With so many people like you who are so ready to REPEAT the lies that were originally REPORTED

I have questions for you NEWYORKER, why did NORAD think that it was an excersise, why was there 5 separate excersises running that day, one which projected an attack on pentagon and one that was a separate excercise involving a hijacked plane?

Can you explain the shocking words of MR PETER POWERS from VISOR CONSULTANTS which were broadcast live TWICE on the evening of 7/7/2005, first on ITN television and later on BBC radio? How is it possible that an excersise was running that day which simulated bombs on EXACTLY THE SAME TRAINS at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME.

Why did the metropolitan police redirect the number 30 bus from its normal route, the ONLY bus redirected that morning?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230&q=terrorstorm&total=861&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Look how badly Bush and Blair mismanaged the war, do you honestly think they could have effectively pulled this off and kept it secret? And they haven't exactly benefited from it either.

That statement is hilarious. I won't bother listing how Herr Busch has benefitted, I will leave that to Chef Mike, he's always good at cut and pasting news articles that show the financial benefits. You want so know how they benefit, watch the brilliant film "IRAQ FOR SALE"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6621486727392146155&q=iraq+for+sale&total=367&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

chefmike

10-03-2007, 07:20 PM

cockcraver

10-03-2007, 07:35 PM

LOL

NewYorker

10-03-2007, 07:41 PM

Yes, I like the word claim in this situation. Simply because you're claiming something. I'm not refering to them as theories and claims because they're the un-official line but because you have no actual proof of anything you've said, which makes them just theories and claims. You've posted one clip from a news report that was discredited the next day and that's all you've got. Where's the clip of the shocking words of MR. PETER POWERS, which were broadcast twice? As for your belief on how Bush benefited, you're honestly telling me you believe he started a war just so his family could have a couple more millions? They would have been able to make that money in far simplier ways. Furthermore, Blair hasn't made any financial gains so he just went along with everything Bush wanted for the fun of it? Also if they were going to run a flase flag orperation wouldn;t it have been easier to place the blame on Iraq immediately? Why go after the taliban first? They weren;t considered a major threat at the time.

And I know you were talking to Chef Mike and if know you know the refernce then you should understand what he's getting at.

Kriss

10-03-2007, 08:39 PM

That statement is hilarious. I won't bother listing how Herr Busch has benefitted, I will leave that to Chef Mike, he's always good at cut and pasting news articles that show the financial benefits.

As opposed to spouting absurd conspiracy theories that sound like the ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic who is off of his/her meds? You might as well be standing on a street corner talking to yourself...you're in Jamie Michelle territory now...didn't they warn you not to take the brown acid?

MIKE , relax mate, we agree on a LOT of things regarding Herr Busch and Halliburton, Blackwater , etc. I was honestly hoping you might post some of those articles as i have not the time, enough people already digging there, so keep up the GOOD WORK, i mentioned you because i want you to show the halliburton/blackwater links to mr NEWYORKER, i can only do so much, i was also slighytly needling you to respond as you STILL have not answered my questions. I answered yours , as truthfully as i can , without having been there.

AGAIN, I SUPPORT CHEF MIKES PROGRAM OF EDUCATION IN THE politrics and religion board. Cutting and pasting artiles is GOOD WORK, many people will only believe something if it is from one of the big 6 news corporations.

My point is that you must also look at other news accounts and, yes THEORIES. You cant expect the mainsteam news to tell you everything. I try to cut and paste less as i am appealing to the people who already have some mistrust of mainstream news, so i must demonstrate that my info is from a wide range of sources , thus i just list KEY POINTS.

simply by stating those points IN BOLD , I have given people a chance to look further and decide for themselves. Also, my aim is not simply to educate on ONE specific disputed fact or event, what i really hope to acheive is to INSTIGATE AND PERPETUATE DEBATE.

Anna Nicole is a small part of this as was Marolyn Monroe as IS Madonna. I am simply drawing attention to the aspects of mind control that TS are interested in and can relate to

Next week................ DISNEY. Why is there a portrait of 33rd degree freemason Walt Disney on the wall of the grand lodge of scottishg freemasons in Washingtoni? In the painting his image is surrounded by 12 of his disney characters. ASny of you TS girls watch the disney production of CINDERELLA? Well, that movie is actually a big tool in their mind control. They have created a pantheon of gods and godesses for us to worship on mass in the colluseums that entertain us with Homoerotic gladiatorial combat . WELCOME TO THE ROMAN EMPIRE 2007!

PEOPLE LEARN TO TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS.

Kriss

10-03-2007, 08:44 PM

Kriss

10-03-2007, 08:55 PM

Kriss

10-03-2007, 08:57 PM

Kriss

10-03-2007, 09:10 PM

As for your belief on how Bush benefited, you're honestly telling me you believe he started a war just so his family could have a couple more millions?

WATCH THE MOVIE !!!!!!!! 'IRAQ FOR SALE

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6621486727392146155&q=iraq+for+sale&total=366&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Also if they were going to run a flase flag orperation wouldn;t it have been easier to place the blame on Iraq immediately? Why go after the taliban first? They weren;t considered a major threat at the time..

IN 2003 British government minister Robin Cook resigned over the illegality of the IRAQ war.
Weeks before he died Robin Cook wrote in a 2005 newspaper column:

"Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians."

To my understanding Afghanistan is more about the pipelines to the caspian sea (Bush administration met with taleban leaders in america in 2001 to discuss this pipeline THIS IS DOCUMENTED IN MAINSTREAM NEWS) and the HEROIN/OPIUM trade. It's what my nation and yours are built on!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_wars

possibly unRelated but interesting >>>>>>>>>>

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4658760587528178082&q=weed+fields+afganistan&total=20&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

NewYorker

10-03-2007, 09:14 PM

And I know you were talking to Chef Mike and if know you know the refernce then you should understand what he's getting at.

Really, you can talk for chef mike now? how do you have Knowledge of what he is getting at? If you knew i was talking to chef mike , WHY answer for chef mike? mind your business and speak for YOURSELF.

Because I've seen the movie and understood what he was getting at, which you clearly didn't. I don't need to be him inorder to understand the message he's conveying.

cockcraver

10-03-2007, 09:19 PM

this has fallen into the politics category zzzzzzzzzzzzz

NewYorker

10-03-2007, 09:19 PM

You might as well be standing on a street corner talking to yourself...

But I'm NOT talking to myself am i MIKE? I am talking with YOU for one, NEWYORKER is another, already you guys have stopped to TALK and argue with the man on the street corner by posting here

...didn't they warn you not to take the brown acid?

Do you always do what THEY tell you Mike?

Again, you're not understanding what he's saying. You're not convincing us, and you're not doing anything proactive. You say you want to instigate debate but all you're instigating is arguments. Therefore you're as effective as the guy on the corner talking to himself. Oh and look at that I'm not Chef Mike and yet I knew what he was saying.

Kriss

10-03-2007, 09:21 PM

You've posted one clip from a news report that was discredited the next day

DISCREDITED by WHO exactly? Fox news perhaps? The SAME fox news that 'discredited' Dan Rather's report on baby Bush's dodgy military record? It was Dan Rather who first REPORTED/REPEATED that the FBI* had found the truck packed with explosives.

Watch the movie "outfoxed" about the "fair and balanced" fox news

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428&q=fox+news&total=16173&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

* FBI seem very much "out of the loop" regarding the 911 inside job, often told to 'back off' and many fbi reported the explosions lower in the wtc buildings

Kriss

10-03-2007, 09:50 PM

this has fallen into the politics category zzzzzzzzzzzzz

then go read something else. But he is right, NY has nearly suceeded in marginalising this information as 'politics' . Thanks craver, he nearly got me there

SO BACK TO THE ANNA NICOLE SUBJECT......

Check this very bizzare video of Anna with her 'handler/programmer' Stern, a VERY evil man who sexually molests children

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=955563677918797564&q=anna+nicole&total=5502&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Anna is not drugged, her voice is not that of someone on drugs, illegal or perscription, her voice is that of a small child.

This video is of massive significance to understanding how many 'alter' states of mind, separate identities or MULTIPLE PERSONALITIES are installed within the same victim. Here we can see that Anna is NOT on drugs but in a CHILDLIKE trance state, in this state she has no memory or concept of the other 'ALTER' Personalities programmed into her by trauma based mind control which starts as child abuse to create disassociative personalities as compartments within a victim's mind where they escape from the trauma.

When Stern asks Anna if "this is a mushroom trip?" she clearly has no comprehension of what he is talking about, or even what a "mushroom trip" is. This is because she is in her mind only 4 years or so old, She would have had several 'alter' personalities for different uses by her handlers. As did MAROLIN MONROE, presidential sex slave and BRITNEY SPEARS. The symbolic shaving of her head is an act of rebellion and her trying to sever the hold her programmers have over her. Britney's current handler is still KEVIN FEDERLINE

At the end of the vid Stern mentions "this footage is worth money". Anna looks confused and says ""what fittidge?" as if she has never heard the word before, strange for a film star. Stern says "the thing your looking at" and Anna replies "that's a CAMERA!" just like a child of under 6 years who knows what a camera is (indeed, child porn is a big part of the mind control program aswell as compromising powerful people) but has no concept of "footage"

chefmike

10-03-2007, 10:44 PM

Kriss

10-03-2007, 11:35 PM

ooops, double post

mbf

10-03-2007, 11:42 PM

kriss,

u hangin out with that Jamie Michelle person lately??? :shock:

TJT

10-04-2007, 11:37 PM

I do believe Kriss is a follower of the great Lyndon LaRouche.

Rogers

10-05-2007, 12:47 AM

Perhaps I should just quote comrade Coroner from page one of this thread-

Dude, what happened to you?
No offense meant, Kriss, but you're showing classic signs of paranoia. It might not be obvious to you, but it clearly is to others. I hope for your sake you're just having a laugh. If not, I urge you to lay of the weed and see your doc. I reiterate: no offense meant.

TJT

10-05-2007, 12:55 AM

Vegamite is Koalas.

voy4her

10-05-2007, 01:16 AM

Where's the clip of the shocking words of MR. PETER POWERS, which were broadcast twice?

About 37 minutes into this video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230&q=terrorstorm&total=893&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

i remember this being reported initially also. There are a lot of things about 9/11 that really bother me, and they should bother everyone. I dont have any answers, but i do know that skyscrapers have traditionally survived airplane crashes, hell a B-52 crashed into the Empire States building once. Also no skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire, and i still have had no satisfactory answer as to why the buildings obviously collapsed from the bottom. No fire or plane crash would have caused that. Regardless of what happened the inner core structure should have remained.
Firefighters, police and civilians all heard explosions, there is seismic proof , both from columbia university and from film footage, where the ground shaking precedes the rumble and then the collapse.
The pentagon story is pretty bad too, the engine photographed at the site was too small for the plane that supposedly crashed into it, and even the plane manufacturers couldn't claim it.
These are just several of the many, MANY details that just don't add up. Whatever the "truth"is, it's certainly not the official story about some guys who probably couldn't pilot a fucking kite armed with some boxcutters. Just a few hundred too many coinkydinks for me.

Try to keep in mind that while you may dismiss the ranters and ravers out there, and while you may disagree with the conclusions they jump to, the fact remains that something else occurred than what the government officially wants you to believe, and that in itself is reason enough to question,question,question.

TJT

10-05-2007, 01:29 AM

A B-25 crashed into the Empire State Building.

The B-25 was a WWII era propeller driven bomber. Much smaller and incredibly slower than the planes that hit the WTC in 2001.

It amounts to the difference between being hit with a baseball or a large caliber bullet.

voy4her

10-05-2007, 01:41 AM

you can try to make this about whatever you want, but a jumbo jet crashing into the top of a skyscraper doesnt make it fall perfectly into its own footprint, im sorry. Theres an older documentary (pre 9/11) about the construction of the WTC, íts well worth watching. And its also well documented that the WTC was specifically designed to withstand the impact of a large plane.(Which, coincidentally, the much older Empire States Building was not.)

TJT

10-05-2007, 01:49 AM

Are black helicopters circling your house as you type this stuff?

Oli

10-05-2007, 02:01 AM

i remember this being reported initially also. There are a lot of things about 9/11 that really bother me, and they should bother everyone. I dont have any answers, but i do know that skyscrapers have traditionally survived airplane crashes, hell a B-52 crashed into the Empire States building once.

At 9:40 a.m. on Saturday July 28, 1945, a B-25 Mitchell bomber, piloted by Lieutenant Colonel William F. Smith who was flying in a thick fog, accidentally crashed into the north side of the Empire State Building between the 79th and 80th floors, where the offices of the National Catholic Welfare Council were located. One engine shot through the side opposite the impact and another plummeted down an elevator shaft. The fire was extinguished in 40 minutes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_state_building

Also from Wiki...a B 25 has a takeoff weight of approx. 31, 000 pounds and travels at a max speed of 275 mph.
A B 52 has a takeoff weight of 265,000 pounds and a max speed of 650 mph.
I'm not an engineer, but the differences in weight and speed tell me that if a B 52 hit the Empire State, it wouldn't be standing today.

Also no skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire, and i still have had no satisfactory answer as to why the buildings obviously collapsed from the bottom. No fire or plane crash would have caused that.
Regardless of what happened the inner core structure should have remained.

Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength — and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=4#damage

Firefighters, police and civilians all heard explosions, there is seismic proof , both from columbia university and from film footage, where the ground shaking precedes the rumble and then the collapse.

Claim: Seismographs at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, N.Y., 21 miles north of the WTC, recorded the events of 9/11. "The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before falling debris struck the earth," reports the Web site WhatReallyHappened.com.

A columnist on Prisonplanet.com, a Web site run by radio talk show host Alex Jones, claims the seismic spikes (boxed area on Graph 1) are "indisputable proof that massive explosions brought down" the towers. The Web site says its findings are supported by two seismologists at the observatory, Won-Young Kim and Arthur Lerner-Lam. Each "sharp spike of short duration," says Prisonplanet.com, was consistent with a "demolition-style implosion."
http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/911-seismograph-1.jpg
http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/911-seismograph-2.jpg

FACT: "There is no scientific basis for the conclusion that explosions brought down the towers," Lerner-Lam tells PM. "That representation of our work is categorically incorrect and not in context."

The report issued by Lamont-Doherty includes various graphs showing the seismic readings produced by the planes crashing into the two towers as well as the later collapse of both buildings. WhatReallyHappened.com chooses to display only one graph (Graph 1), which shows the readings over a 30-minute time span.

On that graph, the 8- and 10-second collapses appear — misleadingly — as a pair of sudden spikes. Lamont-Doherty's 40-second plot of the same data (Graph 2) gives a much more detailed picture: The seismic waves — blue for the South Tower, red for the North Tower — start small and then escalate as the buildings rumble to the ground. Translation: no bombs.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=5

The pentagon story is pretty bad too, the engine photographed at the site was too small for the plane that supposedly crashed into it, and even the plane manufacturers couldn't claim it.

Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6#flight77debris

These are just several of the many, MANY details that just don't add up. Whatever the "truth"is, it's certainly not the official story about some guys who probably couldn't pilot a fucking kite armed with some boxcutters. Just a few hundred too many coinkydinks for me.

Try to keep in mind that while you may dismiss the ranters and ravers out there, and while you may disagree with the conclusions they jump to, the fact remains that something else occurred than what the government officially wants you to believe, and that in itself is reason enough to question,question,question.

Because all of the questions haven't been answered definitively, doesn't mean all the explainations are bogus. Healthy skepticism is a good thing, where you guys are is well beyond that. [/b]

Rogers

10-05-2007, 02:12 AM

you can try to make this about whatever you want, but a jumbo jet crashing into the top of a skyscraper doesnt make it fall perfectly into its own footprint, im sorry.
I heard that the Twin Towers were designed to come down like that for easy demolition purposes in a confined area. I, however, really don't follow this stuff closely, so I could be wrong.

trish

10-05-2007, 03:40 AM

anyone who has seen the clips of the collapsing towers will tell you that they didn't fall from the bottom. The structurally compromised top stories collasped onto the lower stories, which caved in, collapsing onto the stories beneath them etc. On each successive collapse the suddenly falling weight of the upper stories pulverized the concrete of stories immediately below. A sizable proportion of each tower fell as dust, far away from the base of the tower as the tower was high. When a demolition team blows up a building, the dust is minimized because it's the explosions that knock out the building supports, not the entire weight of the upper portions of the building itself.

Kriss

10-05-2007, 03:48 AM

POPULAR MECHANICS popular mechanics POPULAR MECHANICS popular mechanics

The BBC (NOT to be trusted) ran a '911 de-bunking' programme recently called "the conspiracy files". It was portrayed as an 'response' to the excellent film 'LOOSE CHANGE'.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change&total=3193&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

The BBC film relied 100% on the theories claimed by popular mechanics.

A response to that programme is available HERE

http://bbc5.tv/

AND HERE......

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1882365905982811133&hl=en-GB

Popular mechanics is owned since the 50's by HEARST publishing. That should give you a clue, ever heard of Patty hearst? the Hearst empire is behind a LOT of disinformation. It was William randolph hearst who with Harry Ainslinger propogated the use of an obscure mexican slang word, 'marajuana'. In 1930's america the many farmers that grew hemp knew it only as 'hemp' and this new word was introduced to confuse the lawmakers of the time and also to demonise Mexicans.

A few choice quotes from mr Harry Anslinger, head of federal beurau of narcotics in 1930's

"there are 100,000 marajuana smokers in the U.S., most are negroes, hispanics, filipinos and entertainers. Their satanic music, jazz, and swing result from marajuana use. This marajuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"the primary reason to outlaw marajuana is it's effect on the dergenerate races"

"marajuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"if you smoke a joint you are likley to kill your brother"

In 1938 Popular mechanics was not owned by Hearst and ran a story on the "NEXT BILLION DOLLAR CROP" due to the industrialisation of hemp fiber production, a big threat to the DU pont family and thier petro chemical empire, especially the new fibre patented in 1937, NYLON. Hemp fibre is the second strongest natural fibre , after spider web.

ALSO 'oli' IS AN ANAGRAM OF 'oil' :shock:

Kriss

10-05-2007, 04:03 AM

The structurally compromised top stories collasped onto the lower stories, which caved in, collapsing onto the stories beneath them etc. On each successive collapse the suddenly falling weight of the upper stories pulverized the concrete of stories immediately below. A sizable proportion of each tower fell as dust, far away from the base of the tower as the tower was high.

This 'pancake theory' still doesn't explain why there were none of the steel support columns standing. They did not "pulverise" as you suggest that the floors did.

When a demolition team blows up a building, the dust is minimized because it's the explosions that knock out the building supports,

This is why not one central column was left standing as they should have been in your 'pancake theory' where the floors that SURROUND the cenrtal column 'knock' eachother down. When a demolition team blows up a building, they place charges of THERMATE in a strip at 45% angles on the steel columns so that the weight of the building falls in on itself. This is why only a stub of steel is left standing with the classic 45% angle 'cut' from the thermite charge.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3187210261278689551&q=thermate&total=398&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=7

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2842384983834100001&q=thermate&total=398&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=15

A sizable proportion of each tower fell as dust, far away from the base of the tower as the tower was high.

and we see that dust on the many films spreading out from THE BOTTOM of the collapse, that is due to the amount and velocity of the debris, rather than the hight of the tower.

Kriss

10-05-2007, 04:29 AM

FROM Wikidici (cos i'm lazy and haven't got an oxford)

story (plural stories)

1. An account of real or fictional events.

The book tells the story of two roommates.

2. A lie.

You’ve been telling stories again, haven’t you?

The structurally compromised top stories (BUILDING 7) collasped onto the lower stories, (PENTAGON) which caved in, collapsing onto the stories beneath them etc (THE 'HIJACKERS', BIN LADEN). On each successive collapse the suddenly falling LOGIC of the upper stories pulverized the CREDIBILITY of stories immediately below.

What happened was we were told a LOT of STORIES which for me started collapsing in on themselves when I heard about BUILDING 7.

Rogers

10-05-2007, 04:35 AM

Popular mechanics is owned since the 50's by HEARST publishing. That should give you a clue, ever heard of Patty hearst? the Hearst empire is behind a LOT of disinformation. It was William randolph hearst who with Harry Ainslinger propogated the use of an obscure mexican slang word, 'marajuana'. In 1930's america the many farmers that grew hemp knew it only as 'hemp' and this new word was introduced to confuse the lawmakers of the time and also to demonise Mexicans.

A few choice quotes from mr Harry Anslinger, head of federal beurau of narcotics in 1930's

"there are 100,000 marajuana smokers in the U.S., most are negroes, hispanics, filipinos and entertainers. Their satanic music, jazz, and swing result from marajuana use. This marajuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"the primary reason to outlaw marajuana is it's effect on the dergenerate races"

"marajuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"if you smoke a joint you are likley to kill your brother"

In 1938 Popular mechanics was not owned by Hearst and ran a story on the "NEXT BILLION DOLLAR CROP" due to the industrialisation of hemp fiber production, a big threat to the DU pont family and thier petro chemical empire, especially the new fibre patented in 1937, NYLON. Hemp fibre is the second strongest natural fibre , after spider web.

ALSO 'oli' IS AN ANAGRAM OF 'oil' :shock:
See, Kriss, you just shot yourself in the foot there. Why did you have to go into a paranoid rant in defense of weed? Is it that important to you? Does Hearst or any other members of the "Illuminati" own the Lancet and a host of other scientific and medical journals? I don't know, Kriss, please inform me?
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=23323&highlight=reefer+madness

Oli

10-05-2007, 04:39 AM

Kriss, that you willingly give credence to unfounded theories while denying anything that that contradicts your stated beliefs leads me to the conclusion that you don't want to know the truth.

Kriss

10-05-2007, 04:57 AM

See, Kriss, you just shot yourself in the foot there.

Erm, I'm not trying to 'SHOOT' anyone here. it's not a competition.
Your comment shows that you really have a long way to go before you understand my views. You imply that by mentioning DISINFORMATION and PROPAGANDA about Cannabis, I would be somehow diminishing my argument on other forms of CONSPIRACY. HOW SO? You seem to assume that I would be terrified of alienating the dumbest board members who actually believe the government bullshit about Hemp. The same government bullshit that insists on the inefficient farming of cotton, (grows to a fraction of the fibre yeild per metre of hemp) and maize (hemp bio fuel is the cleanest) and growing timber for paper production (hemp is 77% cellulose, far less chemicals involved than wood-pulp paper making)

The hemp revolution part 1

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3070358204716119824&q=hemp&total=2787&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

part 2

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8376961766517588127

HEMP FOR VICTORY! 1942 GOVERNMENT FILM URGING FARMERS TO GROW HEMP FOR THE WAR EFFORT

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6234815658481845054&q=hemp+for+victory&total=49&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Ford's HEMP CAR 1941, runs on low emmission hemp fuel, panels made from hemp oil plastic cellulose

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2109932266758082110

AND , YES, THEY DO OWN THE LANCET

TJT

10-05-2007, 06:19 AM

So was Anna Nicole's husband,oil billionaire Howard Marshall, in cahoots with David Rockefeller,the Hearst heirs,and the Bush and Dupont families in a vast conspiracy?

Was Anna's public meltdown and death a ploy to distract the public from the truth?

Was her public weight loss campaign a secret coda that oil supplies were running short,yet her big fake breasts staying huge a subliminal cue to to keep consuming oil in large amounts?

Finally does Danilynn carry the bloodline of Christ? Or is that where Britney Spears comes in?

Mahabone,dude.

chefmike

10-05-2007, 02:54 PM

I do believe Kriss is a follower of the great Lyndon LaRouche.

Quite an amusing chap, that Lyndon. Is he still alive? Or have the illuminati ritually murdered him also?

chefmike

10-05-2007, 03:04 PM

And how does the "church" of scientology tie into this vast conspiracy? Surely they must be involved also...

Quinn

10-05-2007, 04:49 PM

And how does the "church" of scientology tie into this vast conspiracy? Surely they must be involved also...

The "church" of scientology has nothing on the most pernicious of conspriacy oriented organizations - the Boy Scouts of America. If they're not part of this conspirational quagmire, then no one is.

-Quinn

Kriss

10-05-2007, 06:31 PM

And how does the "church" of scientology tie into this vast conspiracy? Surely they must be involved also...

Scientology is simply trauma based mind control over a LONG period.

ALL churches, cults and religion are involved, ALL top ministers are freemasons (merely servents of the illuminati). All religions are used to mind control huge amounts of people altho this is being slowly eroded and replaced with media IDOL WORSHIP. Hollywood, Colloseum Sports (an whole industry build on killing time) and increasingly the music industry, merged with hollywood via MTV. These are our new gods and they inspire and comfort us greatly.

Stanley Kubrick did try to warn us with 'eyes wide shut', before he was ritually murdered.

ALL religion is a form of MANIA.

chefmike

10-05-2007, 06:48 PM

ALL churches, cults and religion are involved, ALL top ministers are freemasons (merely servents of the illuminati).

Stanley Kubrick did try to warn us with 'eyes wide shut', before he was ritually murdered.

LMFAO...you can't possibly be serious, Kriss.

Kriss

10-05-2007, 07:34 PM

So was Anna Nicole's husband,oil billionaire Howard Marshall, in cahoots with David Rockefeller,the Hearst heirs,and the Bush and Dupont families in a vast conspiracy?

Finally, the penny has dropped!

Was Anna's public meltdown and death a ploy to distract the public from the truth?

NO. Anna nicole was ritually killed. Ritual is everything to these people. To understand this you must research the family.

Anna nicole had an adult son, 20 year old Daniel wayne smith who was murdered while visiting Anna shortly after the birth of Dannielynn. Daniel wayne was the first-born of Anna nicole and had to die in the presence of both her and Danniellynn. Then Anna was ritually executed, ALSO in the prescence of Dannielynn who obviously has a special purpose to these people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Wayne_Smith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dannielynn_Marshall_Birkhead

Following the death of the baby's half-brother Daniel Wayne Smith, Smith put STERN'S name on the disputed second birth certificate issued for the baby then known as Hannibel Rose

On 15/2/2007 a 64 year old German called Frédéric Prinz von Anhalt filed legal papers claiming that HE was the father of Dannielynn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Prinz_von_Anhalt

He is 9th and current husband of ZSA ZSA GABOR, Also a mind controlled illuminati sex slave

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zsa_Zsa_Gabor

Sari (A.K.A. zsa zsa) Gabor is the only Gábor sister to bear a child. According to Gabor's book One Lifetime Is Not Enough her pregnancy resulted from her being raped by Conrad Hilton, paternal great -grandfather of PARIS HILTON. Hilton and Gabor's only child, born after their divorce, is Francesca Hilton (Gabor) born 10 March 1947

Also interesting about Frédéric Prinz von Anhalt is that he was born Hans Robert Lichtenberg, The son of a German police officer, he was adopted in 1980 by Princess Marie Auguste of Anhalt (1898-1983).

She was married firstly to Prince Joachim of Prussia, the youngest son of German Emperor William II, British press reports indicate that Princess Marie Auguste was bankrupt and the adoption apparently was a business transaction. The transaction was masterminded by Hans Hermann Weyer

According to the newspaper Rhein-Zeitung, Weyer was adopted as an adult, in 1996, by a Countess Yorck of Wartenberg (Gräfin von Yorck von Wartenberg), a 78-year-old German noblewoman, and now uses the name Consul Weyer Graf von Yorck

On April 10, 2007, a Bahamian court ruled that DNA testing proved that Larry Birkhead is the father of Dannielynn

on September 3rd 2007 It was said that he and Howard K. Stern were lovers in a new book on Anna Nicole Smith called "Blonde Ambition" written by former cable TV journalist, Rita Cosby. It is also claimed that there is a sex tape of the two. Rita Cosby has claimed to have never seen the tape, nor has the tape been made public. She, however, claims she has plans to back her sources who claim they walked in on Stern and Birkhead

IT gets weirder..............

On July 25, 2007, Prinz von Anhalt was allegedly approached by three women he described as attractive while sitting in his Rolls Royce in Southern California. They asked him to pose for pictures with them, at which point one of the women robbed him at gunpoint, taking his car keys, jewelry, wallet, driver's license and all his clothes. According to Prinz von Anhalt, his assailants bound him and placed him in handcuffs, yet he managed to call the authorities on a cellular phone. Los Angeles police found him completely naked approximately one hour later. Additionally, no handcuffs were found at the scene.

IT'S ALL ABOUT BLOODLINES, HIDING SURNAMES AND INBREEDING.

chefmike

10-05-2007, 08:23 PM

Ya'll must have some mighty strong psychedelics across the pond...

cockcraver

10-05-2007, 08:32 PM

yea looks like they got the xtra strong stuff at the bottom of the sheet

Kriss

10-05-2007, 08:34 PM

Ya'll must have some mighty strong psychedelics across the pond...

AMERICANS KNOW YOUR HISTORY. HAS NO-ONE HEARD OF MARILYN MONROE?

mbf

10-05-2007, 08:35 PM

heck , Kriss

whatever they give you, either take less or more!!!

it just cant get on the way like present....

Kriss

10-06-2007, 01:39 AM

blah.

why do you have a paedophile as your avatar?

mbf

10-06-2007, 02:13 AM

blah.

why do you have a paedophile as your avatar?

its even worse, he might be responsible for war-crimes as well :D

Kriss

10-06-2007, 02:25 AM

blah.

why do you have a paedophile as your avatar?

its even worse, he might be responsible for war-crimes as well :D

He IS without a doubt but HOW IS THAT "WORSE"?

Heinz is also a 100% faggot

TOP navy wife spills the beans 13 minutes into this video.................

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2112403836095153465

FULL INTERVIEW HERE

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-341031042963487862&q=kay+griggs&total=62&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

and here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9137016279925999679&q=kay+griggs&total=62&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

cockcraver

10-06-2007, 02:28 AM

i think its time for a change mbf!!! thats just too odd!!!

mbf

10-06-2007, 02:34 AM

blah.

why do you have a paedophile as your avatar?

its even worse, he might be responsible for war-crimes as well :D

He IS without a doubt but HOW IS THAT "WORSE"?

and a nobel-peace-prize laureate 8)

voy4her

10-06-2007, 04:43 AM

what bothers me about Kriss is that his good points get lost in the collage of theories.
Thermate, not Thermite was used in the tower collapse, and the large pockets of molten steel that remained for months in the foundation could only have been produced by this. The pictures Kriss posted of the sliced support columns werent produced by steel warmed up by a brief jet fuel fire. The fact is you can find all the "Official" support stories you want, but until the government starts coming clean im buying no bridges my friend.
The question really is, how much are you willing to ignore, how much are you willing to turn a blind eye to, in the hope that things can just carry on, business as usual for you? Thats the real problem with americans, if its not happening to us or our families personally we just flip channels and make more popcorn.

As far as the illuminati/freemason theories, its hard to believe isnt it. But it was hard to believe that the joint chiefs of staff wanted to shoot down an american airliner to start war with Cuba, but thats a known fact. Its hard to believe that General Curtis LeMay wanted to inititate the 3rd world war with the USSR while we had the weapons "advantage", but he did..
So for the Illuminati/Freemason thoery i will say this:
The Bilderbeck group comprises of the top percentage of extremely rich and influential businessmen. It meets several times a year, behind closed doors. No information about what goes on in those meetings is known, but obviously they are there to promote and protect their interests. And as Adam Smith once said, "People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public."

And of course Adolf Hitler had these words of wisdom: "The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."

The United States has become a country with a history of important events and killings that have largely poor, inaccurate and obscured explanations. Its absolutely undeniable that forces largely unseen have affected our country and way of life, since the military-industrial complex started snowballing into what it is today after WWII.
In Eisenhowers farewell address he stated
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex."
This is interesting when you consider that he was himself a 5 star general.
If you look at the current budget, the military spending comes in somewhere well over 300 billion. The interesting thing is..Iraq isnt even included in that bill, thats off budget, baby. War is BIG BIG business,with a lot of ways to avoid oversight, and honestly, no-one has been kinder to the war business than the Bush family. You may recall Bush senior's war (which was at least warranted) and that he then became a director of the Carlysle group who are....Arms dealers. And then his son became president. And we went to war.
You can pretend all you want that 9/11 and Iraq were related, you can pretend if you want that Iraq has a bunker as yet undiscovered filled with chemical weapons and nukes and hell maybe Bin Laden, but in the end the world wont be any safer or better off, and neither will your family and friends.

TJT

10-06-2007, 06:00 AM

So this Von Anhalt guy is really the bastard great-great-great grandson of Adam Weishaupt?

BTW,does the name Roberto Calvi mean anything to you?

Kriss

10-06-2007, 06:50 AM

President Clinton admits to mind control experiments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTiONdJJRcw&mode=related&search=

BILL CLINTON'S MENTOR OF 30 YEARS: GEORGE H.W. BUSH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1IVDizjsMQ

BILL IN a trance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3duEgdlkug

Kriss

10-06-2007, 09:34 AM

The eyes of the KAMIKAZI driver, another mind controlled assasin, henri paul completes his mission

Rogers

10-06-2007, 03:06 PM

The eyes of the KAMIKAZI driver, another mind controlled assasin, henri paul completes his mission
(a) Paul had had at least a few drinks (FACT; he's on camera going to the hotel's bar, and had perhaps been drinking earlier that evening after he finished work);
(b) Paul was head of security and not one of Fayed's trained drivers (FACT);
(c) Diana and Dodi showed up unexpectedly back at the hotel of their own accord, causing the press and public commotion that led to Paul (as head of security) being called back to the hotel unexpectedly, where he was unexpectedly forced to drive the two away (ALL FACTS);
(d) It was supposed to be a small white car (which has never been found) that caused the "accident" and not a "mind-controlled assassin" who was unexpectedly (FACT) there.
(e) You're just having a laugh aren't you, Kriss, because with this level of paranoia you'd be in a psych. ward otherwise. Unless you've got access to the ward's computer? :wink:

CONSPIRACY THEORY NO. 564: Kriss is in a psych. ward where he is getting free access to the computer.

Kriss

10-06-2007, 10:49 PM

TJT

10-06-2007, 11:16 PM

WE ARE ALL IN THE PSYCHE WARD MY FRIEND, WE ARE JUST "OUT-PATIENTS", AND DON'T FORGET TO TUNE IN FOR YOUR MEDICATION, THE DOG FROM FRAISIER IS GOING TO RIDE THE DOLPHIN FROM SEAQUEST TONIGHT!

Now there's something I'd pay to watch. Will Fonzie jump them on water skis?

Rogers

10-06-2007, 11:23 PM

i am a disinformation troll, victim of CIA mind-control and ritual psycho-sexual abuse, my only peace is in denial, i weep all the time, then i go online and repeat what i am programmed to say

WE ARE ALL IN THE PSYCHE WARD MY FRIEND, WE ARE JUST "OUT-PATIENTS", AND DON'T FORGET TO TUNE IN FOR YOUR MEDICATION, THE DOG FROM FRAISIER IS GOING TO RIDE THE DOLPHIN FROM SEAQUEST TONIGHT!

(simpsons is also cointelpro psy-ops, but its funny too)
LMFAO. When faced with the facts on the death of Diana you type that, Kriss. If anyone is in denial, it's clearly you. Never watched Frasier or Seaquest (are they still making those programs?).

i am a dopehead clown, victim of never having a clue or idea with what to do with my life, my only peace is in getting out of my skull everyday on weed, i shit my pants all the time, then i go online and repeat what my drug-addled brain just imagined after reading prison planet

chefmike

10-07-2007, 12:11 AM

Kriss

10-09-2007, 04:53 AM

DISNEY MAKES MALE PHALLUSES INTO CASTLES.

Roth oversaw Disney’s subsidiary Hollywood Pictures’ Evita film. Evita has as its main start "Material Girl" Madonna. Madonna is in reality a mind-controlled slave who has appeared in numerous underground porn/& ritual porn movies. (This author has an underground catalog from a porn business, that has recently changed its location of business. The catalog offered a film of Madonna performing an actual blood sacrifice.) She also was the main actress in Disney’s Dick Tracy film which is reported to be used for mind-control. During an Arsenio Hall show, Madonna, who as a guest acted dissociative, was picked up by the cameras during the show kissing her Baphomet ring. Disney controls the products that are associated with the movies of their subsidiaries. In Evita’s case they are marketing hats and other items, as just one more of Disney’s countless artificially generated consumerism campaigns. In Ruth Stein’s interview of Madonna, Madonna appeared bored with plugging Disney’s consumer products. When asked about the tango dresses and hats inspired by Evita that popped up in stores after the film, Madonna said, "Believe me, I have nothing to do with it. Disney is pushing the whole thing." (San Francisco Chronicle, 12/29/96, Datebook section). In one interview Madonna states she wants her daughter to grow up knowing Catholicism, but she doesn’t believe that it would be good for her daughter if Madonna narried the father of her child from Lourdes, Carlos Leon. In another interview, Madonna says, "Actually, I’m a very good role model, because I say, ‘Look, these are my standards’..." She then goes on to plug homosexuality, same sex marriage, and single families in the interview. Walt Disney stated that it plans to release an album by DANZIG, a heavy metal band whose songs contain "dark themes". The Disney press release announces on its by-line "Mickey Mouse is going heavy metal." Disney’s album ,,BLACK ACID DEVIL" was due to hit the music stores Oct. 30, 1996 during Halloween time. According to Disney this music has no satanic references, but does have "dark, Gothic and sexual" overtones. Glenn Danzig denies that he is a satanist.

DETAILED SCRIPT ON HOW

THE DISNEY FILM FANTASIA IS USED

FOR PROGRAMMING TRAUMA-BASED

MIND-CONTROLLED SLAVES.

During the 1950’s, ‘60’s, and ‘70’s at least 90% of the Illuminati’s trauma-based mind-controlled slaves were subjected to watching Disney’s Fantasia film in order for them to build the foundational imagery of the mind-control. Child mind-control victims had their eyes taped open, and then sat one-on-one with their primary programmers so that the programmers could give the scripts as the child watched Disney’s Fantasia over and over. What made Fantasia unique as a programming tool is that it had almost everything the programmers needed to create the foundational imagery for their trauma-based mind-control. To build a dependable alter system means that the worlds need a solid foundation. Fantasia has provided the means to get a solid foundation for the internal worlds that the Illuminati slaves build in their mind. It is also a masterpiece in coordinating color and music.

The Disney film Fantasia which premiered on Nov. 13, 1940 (at Broadway Theater in NYC) was a financial disaster as a movie, but was an Illuminati programming masterpiece. The film was released to theaters in ‘40, ‘46, ‘56, ‘63, ‘69, ‘77, ‘82, ‘85, ‘90 in order to catch every generation of children. The video was released in 1991. During programming much of the child slave’s mind will watch the film. One particular part (alter) will be forced to memorize everything in the film. This small part (small alter) is well hidden in each victim’s mind. This small alter, who has a vivid and total recall of the film Fantasia, is locked carefully away so that ONLY an access code will pull him/her up. Watching the videotape Fantasia is not going to pull this alter up. The programmers pull this alter up when they have a clean slate alter. When they are taking a clean slate of the mind, they will pull the clean part up and have the alter who has memorized Fantasia throw its memory onto an internal big screen. The internal Outer space (aka Rubicon) is shaped like an amphitheater, and functions as a big vast screen for replay. There is an internal ball or sun created via the lighting effect of the movie Fantasia, so that the movie appears projected in the mind as on a globe.

And the Fantasia film images hit this internal globe and go circular in the mind and spin through the system. The programmer will then say to the new part "THIS IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO CREATE. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED." In this fashion, Fantasia has provided the programmers with their primary tool for taking a dissociated clean slate part of the mind, and manipulating it to become a new workable part within the system. The young part that holds the entire Fantasia memory is strategically placed in the system so that it can be called up from anyplace in the system. No matter where the programmer is working in the system, he can access this small alter whose function is to remember the movie. Most of the system will go into a trance sleep if shown the movie. The front (as well as most of the system’s alters) will be totally amnesic to having ever seen the movie. Since the programming put in with Fantasia is so fundamental it should come as no surprise that the programmers have done an excellent job in protecting this programming from everyone, including the slave. Abreacting the film for many alters could rip the system apart, because after the film is memorized severe trauma begins to be overlaid and attached to the film. There may be some small alters that still carry tiny bits and pieces of memory of the movie, but only one will really remember it.

The following script will be a running account of how Fantasia has been used as an important preparatory film for Illuminati trauma-based mind-control to train the mind-control victim’s mind to be able to visualize the programming that will be layered in. The time clock will begin when the feature film’s action begins, and then will run its entire 116 minutes. This will give the researcher of mind-control a blow-by-blow description of how a Disney movie is used for programming. The film was often shown to child victims around 3 to 4 years of age with a wide screen while the child was under a guided LSD trip. (Prior to the use of LSD some other drugs were used.) A Grande Dame or Mother-of-Darkness often worked with the Illuminati programmer as an Assistant Programmer.

The scripts & the programming have already been discussed prior to showing the child the film, so the programmers know the direction they want to take the child, & will tailor some of what is said to the child victim to individualize the programming. When a three or four year old is shown Fantasia on a hypnotically-prepared and controlled LSD trip, the colors & effects of Fantasia are increased about 1,000 times. The film is realer than real to the child. The movie will not be shown just once, but over and over so that the scripts are ingrained into the mind. The imagery for the child’s internal world will be well established, because the big screen movie enhanced by both the drugs and the bright colors of the art work will seem more real that life itself. At this time, the child is a multiple, but the walls between the various parts of the mind are not solid, but similar to the walls between ego states in an adult non-multiple. A large part of the 3 or 4 year-old child’s system will be allowed to view the system, including the Christian parts. Then the entire system (with the single exception of the alter carrying the entire memory of the film) will be hypnotically told to forget having seen the film. Years later, the front alters will not remember having seen the movie, but they may have a strange dislike for the film. They may find that they can’t identify where their feelings of dislike of the film stem from. The child victim will watch the movie with its programmer and assistant programmer one-on-one, with no other children in the room. The child will watch the film repeatedly and be grilled about what is in the movie.

The child will see the movie so many times in such a vivid form and will be tested to the point that the movie will be memorized. But it will be hypnotically locked up in the subconscious by the programmers, so that it forms a base for the mind to begin building programming, but will remain hidden from the conscious. At the time the Fantasia film was made, the Illuminati had been creating trained multiples for years, but they knew they wanted to program the different personalities in accordance with the best mind-control techniques of the day. For this reason, the Fantasia film was planned ahead of time, so that it could possibly serve as a programming aid. The film is silent (almost no words) except for music so that it can be used for hypnotic visualization, so that the Mother of Darkness & the programmer can fill in the programming script with the child victim as they watch the movie. As it turned out, their plans were successful. The New Age author David Tame states in his book The Secret Power of Music (Rochester, VT: Destiny Books, 1984, p. 292), that Fantasia is. . . "A superb marriage between the visual and musical arts.

Most of the sequences.. .are what New Age cinema was intended to be!" The power of the movie to influence the mind stands out. In order to make the film, Disney used some strong arm tactics on a few people. The movie was a box office flop when first released in the 1940’s, but then it was made for the occult world anyway. By the 1960’s, the Illuminati had create a drug culture and had lots of undetectable mind-controlled slaves running around that had been programmed with Fantasia. In the 1960’s, Fantasia became a hit with the drug culture which had its share of Illuminati slaves deeply involved in it. One more reminder, the sentences that are "ALL CAPS" in the script are things that the programmers are saying to the child victim as the child watches the film. (Bear in mind, that the child watches the film over & over, so not everything indicated in this script by caps that the programmer says will necessarily be said in one showing.)

00 minutes. Curtains open. Action begins with an orchestra. The Conductor upon a step pyramid is the center of the scene, and is shown to be the center of authority. Master Programmer Dr. Joseph Mengele liked Fantasia because he was a musician and a violinist. Mengele (Dr. Green) liked Bach, Beethoven, and Schubert and orchestra music. He enjoyed taking what he liked & using this music to make slaves. He would portray himself during programming as being the conductor, & all the orchestra were his children. The film will allow for a repetition of this theme.

00.5 minutes. The instruments begin playing. The musicians are silhouettes which cast shadows upon the wall. Alters will often see themselves in this fashion too, as merely a shadow or merely a silhouette.

01.5 minutes. The MC (named Taylor) begins talking. He begins grooming the viewer. He says that the film may suggest to your imagination "geometric figures floating in space."

02. minutes. The M.C. says there are 3 kinds of music. He says some music is to create definite stories, some to create definite pictures, and some music exists for its own sake.

02.5 minutes. The M.C. introduces us to the "Absolute music."

03. minutes. He states that ,,Abstract images that might pass through your mind...music will suggest other things to your imagination..." The Philadelphia Orchestra begins playing "Toccata and Fuge" by Bach in the background. As a cartoon for children (or adults) the film has already lost the normal audience at this point. (There is no way that Disney could have escaped realizing that the film starts out losing the normal audience.)

03.5 minutes. The conductor is standing out and everyone else is a silhouette with shadow mirror images (like so many of the alters become). Leopald Stokowski is now standing as the rising sun rises. This is an allusion to sun worship and the sun rising in the east. The music is going up and down, and this music at this point is used to train the child to go up and down the trance ladder (that is to go deeper or lighter in trance).

04. minutes. The conductor opens his hands and waves them in an Illuminati hand signal. The music begins.

06 minutes. A row of violinists play, they are merely silhouettes with shadows.

06.5 minutes. A harp scale is played in the background

that is used in the programming. Triggers are attached to this harp scale, or the harp scale is used as a foundation identifier for a piano scale. More children can be taught the piano than the harp, so this scale is usually transferred to a piano scale.

07 minutes. A series of 3 musicians is shown.

07.5 minutes. The conductor (the programmer) becomes invisible. The Prog. Assistant will ask the child, ,,WHO IS GREEN? GREEN BECOMES INVISIBLE."

08 minutes. First lines representing bows are shown (the violinists are invisible), then the Golden Gate Bridge. "REMEMBER THE BOW, NOT THE VIOLINIST." The bow lines flashing on the screen represent energy. 08.5 minutes. Colored disks are flashed onto the screen. The lights are represented to the child victim ‘THAT’S DR. GREEN’S ORCHESTRA." Geometric shapes and flashes of lines explode onto the screen. Concentric rings that will pattern the concentric worlds appear. (See Vol. 2 p. 196 for an illustration of this.)

10. minutes. Asst. Prog. will say, ,,YOU ARE HIS STAR." as stars flash on the screen. Many hidden alters (parts) are stars. Swirling lines arrive, and then colors and then more concentric lines.

11 minutes. Worlds within worlds are shown. Water is shown. Concentric circles that are the pattern for the worlds are presented. A varying number (5 or 7) of Castle-like structures materialize and then disappear. (These will form the pattern for some of the internal castles.) A quick flowing yellow line comes down the center of the screen, ‘THAT’S THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD."

11.5 min. Lots of stars emerge.

12 minutes. Various worlds are shown, and an illusionary castle. Lots of stars are shown, which will be how the victim will model many of their alter parts after. Lots of purple stars appear, representing royal star alters.

12.5 minutes. Spiral splotches of cloud-like colors appear and disappear in dissociative colors. This is the Kingdom of the Gods during programming. The Asst. Programmer takes the opportunity to ask, "WHOSE ORCHESTRA?" This scene is used for the internal heaven where the kings are. Then the camera shows the conductor finishing.

13 minutes. The programmer has finished building his basic worlds.

13.5 minutes. The MC talks about Tchaikovsky’s Nutcracker.

14 minutes. 13 circling lights come into view circling around and around. (The 13 lights are something like 4 yellow lights, 3 white lights, 4 orange, 2 blue-something like this. They don’t have to be all the different programming colors at this point, because that programming will come in its own time.) Stars turn into fairies. A fairy with lots of fairy dust whirls around. ("Make a wish" the slave will be told later on, create what you want.) Flowers grow into butterflies. Hypnotic music plays as the fairy throws fairy dust. Soon, the Fairy spins a web.

15 minutes. The cabalistic tree of life is made with lights, and then the many colors of the ribbons are flashed up on the screen quickly. A compass image is very quickly flashed on the screen.

16 minutes. Lights multiply on the screen, and a spider web appears in the background. There are lots of stars which shine as lights in a spider web. (Stars will serve as alters in programming, the spider web serves as a system within the system, see Vol. 2.) There are several shots of multitudes of stars on a spider web. 16.5 minutes. There is an explosion of light which has a splintering effect (which will fit in well with an electroshock later on to create alters.) Around and around go 6 big mushrooms dancing, with a little one trying to participate. The programmer will point out that the mushrooms are "A FAMILY". When the splintering effect is done with real electricity in the future, the mind will splinter into a family.

17.6 minutes. Concentric circles appear in water. Flashing pedals emerge as if they were dissociation spreading through the water. The flowers are the top spinners (see the pages in Deeper Insights on spin tortures to create spinner families), they dance, & then they float away in the bubbles (of dissociation). "A FAMILY OF SPINNERS" the programmer will say. "SEE THEY SPIN YOU INTO BUBBLES INTO NOTHINGNESS." There is lots of dancing shown by the spinners. Everyone is dancing to the top. The child victim’s head will be wobbling back and forth from the influence of the drugs and dissociation at this point.

19.5 minutes. When the family of fish make a star, the Asst. Programmer says, "SEE HOW SAD THEY ARE." The fish dance in circles and they also hide behind veils. "THE FISH MADE ITS OWN BUBBLES AND YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN BUBBLES TOO."

21.5 min. The child is trained to trance at the hypnotic 8’s that appear in the water. This type of scene will put the deeper alters to sleep of a slave still actively being used. The movie here is being used to teach symbols, which will be important in the programming. Asst. Programmer, "LOOK YOU’RE JUST FLOATING.. ..FLOAT, FLOAT, FLOAT, SLEEP...SEE SHE WENT RIGHT INTO THE CENTER OF THE TRANCE STATE.. .YOU DANCE ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND AND WHERE WE END UP YOU’LL NEVER KNOW."

22 minutes. Lots of bubbles begin appearing. They will be used in the programming to assist the child to protect its mind from the traumas. The asst. programmer may have a bubble toy to make bubbles in her hand as a game to play with the child. The child will be trained and programmed to put its memories into bubbles and let them disappear. ,,WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO GO INTO THE BUBBLE TO GET AWAY FROM THE DARKNESS? 1,2,3...NOW THERE ARE MANY BUBBLES, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO." At this point the film is showing different colors of bubbles, for instance gold bubbles. This trains the child’s mind to identify different colors of bubbles. The bubble-fish-flower scene is going on. ,,DON’T YOU FEEL LIKE THAT FISH, ROUND AND ROUND YOU GO" (dissociation encouraged). The fish continues going in a dissociative spin. The fish swim in graceful perfect figure 8’s which have a subconscious hypnotic induction message to the victim. "SLEEPY LITTLE FISH" is said when the music gets hypnotic. "YOU’RE SLEEPY & YOU’RE TIRED, THIS IS NOTHING BUT A DREAM." "ALL THE DIAMONDS ARE ALL AROUND, NOT YOU" In other words, this is teaching the child that their entire internal world can be around them, but "you don’t know that it’s you." The child begins to lose the ability to realize that other parts of itself belong to itself, they are only stars, etc. The fish changes into another character. flowers are appearing in different colors of the color coding, red, green, orange, blue, white. . .All of a sudden it get’s still. "SHH, LISTEN CLOSELY."

22.5 minutes. Eyes shine in the darkness. "EVERYTHING IS FINE, YOU JUST RELAX."

Silhouettes appear, which represent fish (alters, and people) who are there but you don’t see them, they are behind the veil like the silhouettes. ‘THEY AREN’T THERE, IF YOU SEE THEM THEY AREN’T REAL THEY LOOK LIKE A FLOWER, WHEN YOU SEE THEM, YOU WON’T SEE A CHILD- YOU WILL SEE A FLOWER." The silhouette veil gives the sense to the child that he can sense something but it’s not there. 23 min. Different plants appear and dance. (This part of movie is very important in structuring.) The plants separate into many plants and flowers, and they multiply on the screen, but at the end they solidity into a solid plant. This is teaching the ,,you-are-one-but-you-are-many" concept. "FAMILIES ALWAYS WORK TOGETHER. WHETHER YOU ARE BLUE OR YELLOW OR GREEN, FAMILIES ALWAYS WORK TOGETHER IN HARMONY."

24 minutes. "BUBBLES ALL HAVE A LIFE SOURCE...THERE, LOOK, WHAT’S IN THAT BUBBLE?" 24.5 minutes. ,,YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN ORCHESTRA". Fruit that hangs on the tree is shown, which will be the basis for how they hang the programs (the fruit) in the internal world. Note the colors, orange, white, yellow, purple, blue, green,...

24.5 minutes. Fairyland appears on the screen. The Fairies awake and fly through leaves. ‘THERE’S YOUR FAIRIES. SHE IS VERY MAGICAL. SHE CAN CREATE ANYTHING AND SO CAN YOU." "THE FAIRIES ARE SO MAGICAL."

disney_2.gif (4396 bytes) Disney often portrays Mickey Mouse as a Sorcerer.

When the core is being first split, the parts of the mind that are creative are taken and used to create the fairies. The programmers will only take these original creative splits, they will not try to get fairies from any more torture. The fairies are the creative parts of the child, how ever many creative parts that the child has splintered will be the number of fairies created. These parts of the mind receive very heavy programming. They are core splits. (If readers remember on page 87 of Vol. 2, it refers to a Core Protector coded "Creation". That alter was a fairy, a core split. Not only does this creative part make things "magically" for the system, it protects the core. Does that help people to understand how the Core can be so creatively protected?! (For more understanding about the Core see Cisco’s very deep article on the Core.) Fairies are assigned to every part of an alter system. The child of 3 or 4, who watches Fantasia has had their core locked away at 2 1/2. The core’s stars have not been locked away yet, & have access to her energy. When the system is built, the stars are locked away & become the core’s guardians. They will act like the core to protect her. The real value of the fairies comes when the core’s stars are locked away & the Programmers have to depend upon the creative power of the fairies.

24 minutes. A vine (which represents a system’s double helix) lights up one leaf after another. The leaves are staggered (alternated) and they light up in sequence, which teaches the child the foundation of how they will create the DNA helix and its staggered exit permissions.

25.5 min. The leaves are now floating up and down, like the alters will learn to do. "SOME FALL TO THE GROUND AND DIE." This is the point where the story of the Oak Tree will be added in for programming. When the Illuminati programmers want "to destroy" an alter they can use the chandelier-MT 6:22-23 torture mentioned on page 310 of the Vol. 2 Formula book, and then have the splintered alters become leaves that fall to the ground and die. After this, these disobedient and now "dead" alters can be taken & be dissociated from their memories. The memories are locked up someplace permanent within the mind.

26. min. Out of a leaf like "box" come a series of fairies. The child is taught to put things (such as alters) in boxes of various shapes.

26.5 min. Leaves blow in the wind. Fairies cover things and keep them safe.

27. min. Fairies continue flying around. The seasons are passing in sequence. An internal green-skirted fairy will be connected to the internal hourglass during the programming.

27.5 min. The fairies quit flying and skate on ice. The season has turned to winter.

28 min. A winter scene. The four seasons have come to an end.

28.5 min. A sorcerer is introduced by the MC (emcee). The sorcerer is shown and then his assistant or trainee who is Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse wants to be creative and magical like the great wizard. Mickey Mouse sees the power that the sorcerer has, and wants that power. What is really being subtly portrayed here is the programmer (the wizard) and the core & the core’s creative splits (Mickey Mouse). Showing the programmer as a great wizard is actually right on the money. The top programmers are all Grand Masters in the Illuminati and are very much into witchcraft.

29 min. The sorcerer (wizard) is shown again. This time the wizard,, with his skull beside him, creates from his witch’s cauldron a big colorful butterfly which is forever changing. (Is this big yellow, purple, white, and blue butterfly meant to be a Monarch butterfly? The programmers will use it that way for this Monarch programming.) The great wizard magically creates the big colorful butterfly and then he shatters it into countless splinters!

30 min. Mickey sneaks around and grabs the magic hat. (The magic hat is one of the few things in the film that doesn’t mean anything for the programming. It merely has witchcraft symbols.) Then a magic broom appears.

30.5 min. The broomstick comes alive. The broomstick imagery will be used to help create the pancake people (ribbon alters who will haul the internal computer messages). The broomstick person in the film hauls buckets of water. The child is having story after story layered in over a period of time, which are being skillfully constructed toward a programming end. Parts of the child’s mind that see the movie Fantasia

will be dissociated clean slates. They will need to have some imagery given to them so that they have something to build mentally upon. In Cisco’s section of the book, in the Truth article it is discussed how the mind looks at sensory inputs and tries to make sense of a pattern by comparing it to previous patterns that it has identified. Learning is a step-by-step building process, and so is programming.

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31. min. Mickey as the apprentice sorcerer (in a sense the victim who the programmer is training) manipulates the broomstick person. "THE CHILD (Mickey) CAN DO WHAT THE GREAT MAGICIAN DID. YOU CAN TELL YOUR MIND WHAT TO DO. YOU GET POWER BY LEARNING TO BE CREATIVE." Mickey (and the victim) become mirror images of the Wizard over them.

32 min. Then the sorcerer sits on his throne, and while on the throne acts like the conductor. Here is a subtle mental tie-in that Mickey is playing the role of programmer (conductor) and is sitting on an Illuminati throne (like so many of the Illuminati Grand Master programmers have actually done.) Michael Aquino is just one of several mind-control programmers who have gone by the name of Mickey. Because Mickey Mouse is substituted for being the programmer at different points in programming, this scene will tie in well with other standard programming sessions.

32.5 min. Mickey in the film clearly is shown leaving his physical body and astrally projecting himself. This is such a vivid portrayal of occult astral projection, that it is mind-boggling that many Christians consider Walt Disney movies to be christian. (See Vol. 2, p. 319, for a discussion of the scientific methods to understand and induce astral projection.) This again is laying the mental foundation for the child to leave its body mentally and either hover over its body in dissociation or to travel somewhere via astral projection. Mickey Mouse then begins conducting lights. These lights represent the alters that the victim will make for the conductor. The lights (aka stars) are the conductor’s orchestra. Lightning (such as flashes that come from electroshock) and stormy weather are being controlled by Mickey. Notice that the things Mickey is controlling are fear-based. After the child has viewed the film many times and memorized it, when the electro-shock is applied during this time of the film, the child will control it like Mickey by ‘magically’ creating splits.

33.5 min. Mickey begins conducting waves. Then, for those who understand the veiled scenes, Mickey begins going through the different magic spheres conquering the different spirits. This is Enochian Magic. 34 min. Mickey wakes up back in his body, and he is in trouble with rising water i.e. a water trauma. Mickey is thrown into the water. The child victim will identify this with the drowning tortures that are given to instill "no talk-no tell" messages. After Mickey (or in child himself) has done something, and returns to his body, then the "‘no-talk"’ message will kick in. Victims of mind-control often get the feeling of drowning when they trigger a no-talk message.

34.5 min. More water continues to flow.

35 min. All of a sudden without any continuity of action, Mickey gets an ax and kills the broom by splitting it. The broom dies and then multiplies when it comes back to life. This is such a clear picture of what the programmers want the child’s mind to do. They will traumatize the child essentially unto death, and then they want the tortured alter to multiply itself into many more duplicate alters. Armies of brooms are formed from the broom. This scene here is a clear red flag that the Illuminati asked Walt Disney to produce this film. This scene with the trauma death of the broom, with it splitting in half, and then coming back to life in a multiplied form, is evidence that this film was meant to be used for training children in multiplicity. The assistant programmer will say "IT’S O.K. TO SPLINTER." "YOU ARE TIRED, YOU CAN ESCAPE THAT BY RESTING AND LET A PART OF YOURSELF COME OUT." At this point, it is necessary to explain what is going to be done when they begin to splinter the child’s mind. After the splitting trauma, the programmer needs to be able to see what the child has created, so he wants the child to look at what’s been made. "‘CAN YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU’VE CREATED?" However, the part of the child that looks back at the trauma will then see that the dissociated trauma was real and that will make the child angry. The programmers want the child to dissociate what he built, and when the child looks back at what he has created he goes into a vortex of dissociation. The child is told if he ever looks back at the memory he will go into the vortex.

35.5 min. Water is being thrown in by the brooms, while Mickey throws water out.

36 min. All of a sudden a hypnotic vortex sucks things in during the film.

36.5 min. The brooms all march in an army, while Mickey reads his magic book. Mickey then uses his magic book as a lifeboat when he gets whirled into a vortex. A vortex is often created from that part of the mind that is holding the high energy that accumulates in the mind just before the mind splits. It holds the highest energy of the mind. One way a vortex is created is to place the child on a traumatic Disney ride--like a rollar coaster. Special electrical boxes or electrical shoes are outfitted onto the child so that during the ride, at a particular timed moment when fear is increasing, that fear has pain of the electrical shock added to it. A cattle prod of course would be too dangerous to take up on some type of ride like that with all the motion. Also bear in mind, a small child doesn,,t take need the electrical power that an adult needs to take it down.

37 min. At the bottom of vortices in the Illuminati programming, the programmers place Guardian demons. In Fantasia, when Mickey gets to the bottom of the vortex, sure enough, there is a Guardian there to meet him. The Guardian spirit parts the water as if he were Moses with the Red Sea.

38. min. The Conductor and Mickey Mouse shake hands. The conductor does something very significant. Mickey congratulates the conductor and then the conductor (programmer) in turn says, "Mickey, you’ve done a good job." (Yes, the core/core splits have done a good job at this point, they have just created their inner world!) The MC tells us about the next song the occult Rite of Spring. Spring rituals are creation rituals and so this music is ritually connected to what the programmers are going to do in this segment. The MC states that instead of the viewer seeing tribal dances (which are by the way witchcraft dances), that instead Disney has decided to show us scenes of what went on billions of years ago. (This next part is also a subtle push for Darwin’s theory of evolution. But because it is child’s entertainment, people don’t have their guard up. The theory of evolution is important, because it allows people including the victim to not take moral responsibility for their actions, and it is also the basis of some of the Hinduism and witchcraft teachings that will be given the deeper alters. This is a backdoor approach to destroy godliness that is carried out on children in general.)

39.5 min. The MC says, "Imagine a lonely tormented little planet spinning in a sea of nothingness." This is exactly what the programmer will say to the child as they work together at building an internal world. The "sea of nothingness" is what the reader will see described in our books as "Outer Space" or ,,the

Rubicon." Also that "sea of nothingness" is used much later to reinforce the secrecy of the programmers. Much later as the programmer and torture has progressed the programmers will say to alters, "LOOK DOWN ON THE EMPTY SEA OF NOTHINGNESS. THERE IS NO DR. GREEN. THERE IS NO DADDY THERE."

40 minutes. A swirl of stars in a galaxy appears. Swirls of comet-like lights flash by. "MANY WORLDS THERE." This will set the base for the child to build galaxies and worlds within their mind. "BE LIKE GOD, CREATE YOUR WORLD. BE YOUR OWN GOD AND CREATE YOUR OWN WORLD" the child is told at this point.

42 minutes. The face of the planet emerges.

42.5 min. Lots of volcanoes erupt on the screen, setting the foundation to build realistic internal volcanoes.

45 min. Oceans, and water and fire are coming into being. The child victim needs to know how a world is created in order to create their own internal world. Lava begins flowing as the flute plays the background music. Lightening flashes. The violence of the fierce weather portrayed will be enhanced by the child on drugs to a thousand times its magnitude. This is important because it will take a great deal of mental energy and external torture to create the internal worlds. Having such super-vivid pictures will help when the victim goes to build their internal worlds. There will be special purpose fragments that will be made into the elements of fire and water. That’s all these special purpose fragments will know. Breaking through the layers in the alter systems will trigger internal earthquakes. This and a later earthquake scene are used to build the foundation for the internal violent weather. If an internal earthquake shakes a slave’s mind, it has the same effect as if a real earthquake were going off. Everything internally shakes and shifts. An alter system will also have fire children, who start internal fires, and will give internal alters the abreaction or sense that they are burning. The mind gets very survival minded when it thinks it is burning, and goes right back into the programming that is linked with the victim’s compliance for survival during programming. 46 minutes. The oceans continue to form.

47 min. A calm occurs in the action.

47.5 min. The screen gets dark except for an amoeba, which becomes two amoebas. As the little amoebas multiply, the asst. programmer encourages the child, "IT’S O.K. TO MULTIPLY. GOD WANTED YOU TO MULTIPLY" Remember, the programmers are working with a pre-schooler with clean slate alters. The programmers must show images that the child can relate to. The concept of the broom being split in half and then multiplying and now the concept of the amoebas splitting are portrayed in a way that the child’s mind can grasp the concept.

48.5 min. "IF GOD CAN MAKE A FISH, YOU CAN MAKE A FISH. YOU CAN DO ANYTHING, YOU CAN BE ANYTHING."

49 minutes. Dinosaurs appear. The programmers will reframe the concept of dinosaurs into monsters and demons. The sea-going dinosaurs will be refrained as guardian demons which guard the internal rivers. These guardian demons tie in with Armageddon end-time programming. They also guard the various worlds.

50 min. Dinosaur-birds swoop down and grab prey. This imagery will be refrained to lay the basis for the winged-monkey watchers of the Oz stories. The winged-monkey watchers are the child alters who are assigned to watch and guard the system.

51.5 min. Fierce dinosaurs (later ref rained as Dragons) protect the swamps. Swamps are built into the internal worlds, so this is very helpful. Demons and alters like Dameon are set up as guards.

52 minutes- More swamps appear. The swamp scenes will form the base in the child’s mind for the internal river Styx. (See more about this in this book’s article "Programming, foundations, destruction of"). Some dinosaurs that have long necks that look like snakes begin appearing. The asst. programmer will reframe these to the child, "LOOK, THE SEED OF SATAN." "THAT IS A DEMON." While the child watches, they reframe the hugh dinosaurs as being demons. Pictures of reptilian looking demons will be shown to the child too. At that age, the child is not going to see the difference. (A note for therapists: Some ""demons’" may actually be important parts to an alter system, and are being used to protect unauthorized users from entering important areas of the system.)

54 min.- Fierce Tyrannosaurus Rex chases dinosaurs. This chase scene is especially frightening to a young child on a LSD trip. Long-necked snake-like dinosaurs appear. They may be refrained as a python snake. T Rex is also known as Leviathan, a demon that inhabits the kundalini spinal column and causes pain in the victim, he is written about on page 302 in our Vol. 2 book. In the film a long fierce struggle between T Rex and other dinosaurs ensues.

55 min. The dinosaurs begin dying and soon dies. ,,THE LORD DOESN’T LIKE THEM."’ This will later be refrained that if parts integrate they are to die. If someone tries to get into the system, the alters are to bury themselves deep like these dinosaurs do on the film.

56 min. Dead bones appear

59 min. Mountains soar out of the ground into eminence.

59.5 min. It gets stormy on the screen, winds & floods appear.

60. min. Stillness comes as the sun rises.

61 min. The sun sets. (During the programming, this may be refrained as the moon setting. It can be both or either or. Remember, the programmer is working with the child’s creativity.) Various scenes during the film show the moon in different phases which is important for bringing in programming concepts like Mr. Moon.

61.3 min. The orchestra is now playing. Music is an important part of mind-control programming. The affect of music on the mind and body has been studied. Music can double the heart beat, accelerate the respiratory rate, make that rate irregular, enhance perception, lower the threshold for various sensory stimuli, change blood pressure & circulation, and alter the muscles in the body. Dance music and "march" music done by orchestras change muscle response. Music is also a great way to cause dissociation.

62.5 min. The MC introduces the "‘Sound Track’ who he says is an important person for Fantasia who can be seen around the Disney studio. When Mr. Sound Track appears, he is simply a vertical line. The MC says he is "an important screen personality." The ground work is being laid for a person being anything, even a line. The MC states that each sound creates a picture.

63 minutes. The MC encourages the personified Sound Track ""don’t be nervous."" Then a sound is made like an electrical shock and the line develops a splotch of color in it. During the programming at this point an electrical shock would be applied to the child.

63.5 minutes. The harp is ask to sound. The harp begins playing a scale and the line becomes double 8’s and snake-like spirals. The child will be taught to dissociate when seeing such double 8’s.

64 min. The violin begins going up and down. Each of these instruments is going up and down the scale, like do-ray-me-fa-so-la-tee-do. The music is used to teach the alters to go up and down the helix, which is figured in this part of the film. As the music goes down, an alter is taught to go down in trance, and as it climbs higher, the alter will trance higher. All these instruments (violin, flute, bass, bassoon) are being used to teach alters how to work in the system. The MC describes the flute as "very pretty".

64.3 min. A trumpet begins playing and the colors, yellow, orange, etc. begin showing.

64.5 min. When the bassoon plays, the MC says, "Go on. Drop the other shoe"-- "Go to the shoe" which translates "‘go to the ground"" --the deepest trance level. The following is the double-pyramid, with a helix up the middle that appears when the bassoon plays: -(This configuration is very important to all these Illuminati alters systems.)-

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65 min. The drum plays and some other percussion instruments play. These are taught to the child as the cult’s "HEARTBEAT". They will hear this sound internally for many years to come. Then some sounds that have a shattering effect (cymbals) like broken mirrors are made in the film.

65.5 min. As the sounds take place a line is made with a pyramid at the top. This is laying the groundwork for the system’s structuring.

66 min. The MC laughs and talks about Beethoven’s Pastoral Symphony (Beethoven’s 6th) which is next.

66.5 minutes. The screen comes alive with magical Unicorns of different colors. Then Pan (a satan-like figure) appears playing his pipes, and soon lots of little Pans (little demons) are playing their pipes. The little Pans (demons) play and dance with the unicorns. The orchestra plays again. (This author, Fritz, remembers when I said that Pan was an evil demon, I was rebuked by a Christian minister. He then said Pan a benevolent cheery creature". A number of books which may be obtained from Satanic bookstores document that Pan is indeed considered a powerful demon by occultists.)

67 min. Pegasus (the mythical greek winged horse) flies in. As a Mother horse she takes care of little ones on the screen. She is a protector in the programming.

68 min. "FANTASY IS FUN. FANTASY IS A GAME YOU PLAY. MOTHER TEACHES YOU. SEE HOW MOTHER IS A TEACHER. SEE THE BLACK AND WHITE HORSE. THEY ALWAYS FLY TOGETHER, BUT ARE SEPARATE. THEY ARE FLYING OVER THE CLOUDS." "OVER THE CLOUDS, INTO THE BLUE YONDER." The child is rewarded for what it has to do with the game of fantasy. "THAT’S YOUR REWARD FOR DOING WHAT YOU ARE TO DO. YOU CAN LEARN TO FLY OVER THE CLOUDS." The child feels rewarded by the game of fantasy. The fantasy scenes in Walt Disney’s Fantasia are like the Wizard of Oz scenes in Oz, fantasy-land is more colorful and fun than real life. Vivid colors will be splashed about during the fantasy-land scenes.

68.5 min. A castle appears as Pegasus flies around. This and other castle scenes will help the child develop the imagery for the spiritual castles that the child will build internally. Then they swim in the water. "SEE THE MIRROR IMAGES, WATER CAN BE GLASS." During the programming mirrors are put into the internal

system. A mirror can be a piece of glass, the surface of a pond, or an asphalt runway. When the programming is complete, underneath the water &/or the runway lurk demons.

70 min. Waterfalls emerge and issue forth. The waterfalls are used by the programmers to erase all the slave’s memory of what was done to them. The child will be told at the end of watching Fantasia (and this will be said at other programming events too), "JUST REMEMBER THE GOOD, JUST REMEMBER THE FANTASY". The fantasy is given so that the subconscious can rest in peace after the programming. The child is told "WASH YOURSELF CLEAN."

70.5 min. The little girls appear as girl centaurs (half girl-half horse). "SEE THE LITTLE GIRLS ARE HORSES."

71 minutes. Then a scene appears where one girl centaur braids another girl centaur’s long hair. The Illuminati teach their slaves to braid their memories. They braid their memories up and then lock them in. All the Daddy memories will be locked up & braided and then locked for good.

72 min. Male centaurs appear. They are near water and make mirror images in the water.

72.5 min. A crown is placed on a female centaur and 2 doves. During the Illuminati death, burial and resurrection ceremonies lilies are used for crowns, and doves are used. These are significant programming/ritual symbols. The female centaurs look at the male centaurs. This will be refrained as a system can have both male and female parts.

73 min. Starting with one female centaur, the females act seductive to the males, who then respond. For bras the females have bras of daisies. The Vol. 2 book explained how the daisy programming is a life-or-death type program. Vivid colors are used for each centaur. For instance, one may be purple and another one another color, which sets the groundwork for alters to have different access color codes. Alters do not usually see themselves as being in different colors, although it does happen on occasion.

73.8 min. A marriage takes place between the centaurs. The programmers catch these nuances of the film and use them. The marriage here teaches the child to be acquainted with the arm-and-arm marriage ceremonies. Remember, the programmers are dealing with clean slates that must be taught from the ground up. In the next few minutes, the cherub children will watch sexual body language, and the child victim is also picking up on enticing sexual body motions.

74.2 min. The centaurs go swimming. "I FEEL LIKE A LITTLE GIRL WITH A HORSE’S BODY."

75 min. Little cherubs are dancing and flying around. When pictured the artists at times single out 3 cherubs who blow flutes together. The female centaur appears,

who is fair haired (blond) and blue-eyed, which is what the Illuminati like. When she hears the tone (of the flutes) she goes into a trance state and walks with her eyes closed. This imagery is used to teach alters that when they hear certain tones, they are to go into a trance state and do certain things. The little cherub turns into a heart, and when no one is watching goes into the tree. In programming, this part is the Keeper of the Tree. Notice how everything is veiled. The assistant programmer will point the cherub out to the child victim, "LOOK AT WHAT HE DID."

76.5 min. A curtain then shrouds the scene. The curtain appears to be tree-like. More bubbles appear, and more water. All the mythical creatures on the screen begin to dance and be merry and have a feast.

77 min. "SEE THE FEASTS, SEE THE BANQUETS, THE FEASTS ARE O.K. THE BANQUETS ARE O.K."

78 min. "THE LEAVES ARE FALLING." Blood-like wine is drank at the feast. "SEE THE BLOOD."

"SEE THE LITTLE DEVILS POP UP." The only human in this Disney scene is honored. This is done to teach the alters that humans and animals can mix. That they can be accepted for what they are, even if they think they are an animal or something else they will be accepted at the cult’s feasts. These scenes are all for internal programming. By the way, one of the pretty female centaurs makes a sexual pass at the fat human, who then chases her. "MUST PLEASE THE MASTER."

80 min. A scary storm comes up, and Zeus, and the greek gods appear. ,,BETTER FEAR IT. HE’S A GOD YOU’D BETTER FEAR HIM. HE THROWS LIGHTNING." This demon who throws lightening is named Furfur. He also makes thunder & strong winds in the system (alter system’s worlds). Readers can learn more about this demon, named Furfur, in Cisco’s second part of Deeper Insights in the article on "Programming, foundations, destruction of".

81 minutes. Lightening bolts are thrown from heaven.

81.5 min. All the little cherubs run for cover in fear.

82 min. Pegasus the protector flies in to protect everyone, especially a new born Pegasus. The wind is personified as a two-headed blowing person. This two-headed Janus wind comes storming through the heavens. The programmer will often place his own voice "IN THE WIND." The greek god (internal demon) throws a lightening bolt.

83 min. "SEE THE GODS". The child is learning what to make internally. Zeus then relaxes & goes to sleep.

84 min. More vivid colors form. "FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH ALL THE COLORS." The film at this point is teaching the child to stay in the framework of the programming for safety. To go outside of the programming is terror. The child is learning to fear the godlike demonic guardians.

84.5 min. The fantasy world is coming alive. It is a happy fantasy world. A goddess in the sky makes a rainbow emerge. This is the rainbow goddess of the programming.

85 min. All the happy unicorns and cherubs fly ‘"over the rainbow." (Refer back to the Vol. 2 book p.94 to understand the significance of going over the rainbow.) The unicorn is derived from old British paganism where the lion represented sun worship, and the unicorn represented moon worship. This is why the Royal Arms of the British Royal Family have a unicorn on one side, & a lion on the other. Sexually the unicorn represents androgeny. During programming, the horses, pegasi, unicorns and centaurs shown in the Fantasia movie become the foundation upon which the Illuminati programmers build the Night Mare alters who are beasts of burden who carry an alter system’s memories. These are logical no-emotion alters who are early splits & who are programmed after the child is verbal. See Cisco’s article on Dream Work for more understanding about the horse alters, as well as chapter 7 on Structuring.

86 minutes. More rainbows and lots of bubbles come into view. The film has done an excellent lob of showing how the Furfur God of thunder protects the Rainbow. Once an alter has gone over the rainbow, they can not come back because a demon protects the Rainbow. The rainbow is also protected by alters who fear the gods. After seeing Fantasia, the therapist can understand why the little child protector alters have fear about these gods. The master (who represents Furfur) in the movie swallows the rainbow. If an alter looks internally for the rainbow, he or she will only find stars, because the protector will come up and say, "I swallowed the rainbow." The rainbow is kept well hidden internally. This scene is used to teach alters how to go over the rainbow. ""BEFORE YOU GO OVER THE RAINBOW, YOU HAVE TO PUT ALL YOUR MEMORIES IN THE BUBBLE. YOU CAN’T TAKE ANYTHING OVER THE RAINBOW INTO FANTASY LAND."

86.5 minutes. Apollo, the sun god comes out.

87 min. A big mother spirit who fills the whole sky is now shown by Disney. She hangs over the rainbow. When a system is built this is indeed what they put in. All go to sleep in the film.

87.5 minutes. Arrows shoot the stars into the heavens. This is more programming imagery. When you look for the rainbow, you see stars.

88 min. The conductor finishes again.

88.5 min. The next setting is a Venetian nobleman’s (a duke’s) palace. Curtains open. The use of curtains is spoken about in our previous books.

89 min. Curtains open. An Ostrich begins dancing, and gets others to ballet dance.

90 min. The Ostriches begin dancing in a circle, this is laying the groundwork for what the cult family does. The Assistant programmer may tell the child, "SEE IT’S O.K. TO DANCE TOGETHER. DANCING IS ACCEPTABLE." The programmers will not directly tell the child that this represents the cult family.

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Fantasia portrays Satan as a terrible powerful being.

91.5 min. The Ostriches are eating grapes. They are playing, looking in the pool & they are seeing bubbles.

92 min. Hippos emerge out of the pool. "IT’S O.K. TO BE DIFFERENT. IT’S O.K. TO BE STRANGE. USE YOUR CREATIVITY." The hippos begin to dance and dance.

94 min. Elephants appear and are having fun and blowing bubbles out of their trunks. The programmers may be having fun blowing bubbles with the child. The programmers like to mix love and hate, kindness and sadistic behavior. That way the victim has a hard time separating love from hate. If you ask many slaves about "Daddy" they will tell you that they had fun with Daddy. They are right--they had fun intermixed with sadistic torture. Bubbles continue to lift off. One of the bubbles has a fish in it. This is imagery for the bubble programming. The child victim is trained to dump their bad memories into bubbles and let them float away. The therapist will notice that many victims feel like they are floating. They have an unreal feeling. The bubbles are floating their bad memories away.

98.5 minutes. A new setting and the hippos are hypnotically sleeping. 3 sinister alligators that remind one of the 3 primary programmers appear. The 3 alligators have robes that hide them, and shadow images of themselves lurking behind them. The alligators are trying to get the hippos. The 3 alligators are portrayed like the programmer is, he is someone to fear, love, & respect all at once. The hippo is running away and dancing. The alligator dances with the hippo, but makes menacing attempts to eat him. A flying hippo lands on an alligator. Elephants, hippos, alligators are shown. The elephants, ostriches, hippos and alligators all dance in fantasyland.

100 min. The orchestra is dancing. ‘"DO WHAT YOU’RE TOLD AND WE WILL HAVE FUN."

101 min. The MC announces the next part as ""the struggle between the profane and the sacred."’ The conductor stands in a silhouette that suggests the same pose that the upcoming Satan takes.

102 min. A high dark mountain with a castle looms in front of the viewer. A winged fiercesome Satan figure raises his wings. His wings are sectioned like fingers with claws, and will form the imagery of the demon Malebrinche, whose satanic claws hang over the alters and terrorize them. In the Illustrated Guidebook, the reader will find lots of these claws in the pictures lurking in the background. A child victim will be taught to fear the hands of the programmer, Satan and

Malebrinche. The wings (hands with claws) open. And Satan is portrayed as an awe-inspiring figure. (By the way,, the word maleficia means evil misfortune caused by witches. The witch in Disney’s Sleeping Beauty has the demonic name of Maleficent.)

102.5 min. Satan begins raising the dead skeletons. This provides a foundation to layer in the Valley of the Dry bones coming alive with armies of skeletons.

104 min. The film also has some images at this point that will help with the foundation for the Armageddon programming. Satan calls everything to himself.

104.5 min. The hell pit is shown. This is laying a foundation for the hell pit with all its demons. All kinds of vivid colors are shown in hell, to make the scene more real than real for the child victim. Satan smiles as demons burn in hell. "NO MATTER WHAT COLOR YOU ARE, IF YOU ARE NOT GOOD YOU’LL END UP THERE.’"

105 min. "THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU’RE BAD. YOUR THROWN INTO THE HELL PIT."

105.5 min. Three beautiful lady demons begin to dance in a circle, all of a sudden these demons take on their luciferian form, one becomes a goat.

106 min. The demons continue to dance with powerful Satan watching over them. The hell pit and the demons are portrayed in vivid scary graphic depictions. The hellish fire and the ghoulish dancing of its occupants continues for what seems a long time. "WHEN GOD FINDS OUT HOW BAD YOU ARE, LOOK AT WHAT HE’LL DO TO YOU."

107 min. Satan is portrayed by Disney in all his evil dark majesty.

107.5 min. Bells begin to ring, and the demons slink away, & the dead return to the earth to their graveyards.

108 min. Ghosts return to the graves. Soft music begins to play. Ave Maria by Schubert, which was written for the Catholic church, begins playing.

109 min. Satan folds himself into a mountain. ‘"DO YOU SEE LUCIFER ANYWHERE? NO. YOU ONLY SEE A MOUNTAIN."

110 min. Lights shine as if they are a column of moving people who are walking with lights, and then some walls appear.

110.5 min. An arched bridge appears with its mirror image. The column of silhouetted people who continue walking have mirror images in the river. The asst. programmer will be telling the system (which the front parts will hear) "TIME FOR ALL THE GOOD CHILDREN TO GO TO CHURCH. IT’S O.K. TO GO TO CHURCH. GO SERVE GOD."

113. min. An opening, a vertical sliver of light comes from what appears to be doors opening up. There is a mirror effect in the way the doors open, which will facilitate making mirror image front worlds. A whole new world opens up, which will be the front system’s world. Both the front alters and the deeper ones will be told to forget the movie. Later when a system is better programmed, the programmers will pull up the front alters and have them walk through these doors into the light. When they are hypnotically taken through these doors into the light and away from the fear and darkness of the Kingdom of Satan, they are hypnotically told to close those doors and never look back. The Kingdom of Satan has been shown in detail and in great length. The Kingdom of Satan has been shown as powerful and fearful. Satan is shown as a mighty power that is to be feared. The Kingdom of Light is only shown as a peace, as a refuge from evil. It is not shown to be good. It is not shown to have power or intelligence. It is simply a place to go to escape the fear of Satan’s power. This is all the programmers really want the church to be. It will be a stabilizing balance to let the mind recuperate from the hell of the programming, but it is not intended to be seen as greater than Satan and his Kingdom.

115 min. The film ends with a peaceful gaze at heaven. The child is being told in the last few minutes "THAT WORLD BELONGS TO YOU. IT’S A BEAUTIFUL WORLD. IT’S THE WORLD WE WANT YOU TO LIVE IN. IT’S BEAUTIFUL." After all the hell that is eventually dumped on the child, and the scare that Satan gives them in this Fantasia film, the child is only too happy to create a beautiful world to live in.

TJT

10-09-2007, 05:22 AM

What about "The Shaggy Dog"? Did it fire the shot from the grassy knoll?

chefmike

10-09-2007, 03:14 PM

CORVETTEDUDE

10-09-2007, 03:19 PM

chefmike

10-09-2007, 03:38 PM

Go piss in your tinfoil hat, lunatic.
If you walked(or were dragged) into any psych ward babbling the kind of batshit crazy BS that you post on this forum you would be put in restraints and heavily medicated like all the other paranoid-schizophrenics, you fuckin' flake...get some therapy, asswipe.
And maybe you should also consider laying off the crackpipe for a while...

And we thought Jamie Michelle was an annoying, batshit-crazy troll...this clown may even be worse.

Co-sign!!!!! chefmike....What in the fuck was he trying to get accross, other than the fact he knows how to take up alot of space??? :banghead

He should take this psycho-babble to a street corner, or maybe the park, where he could join all of the other paranoid-schizophrenics that are off their meds.
Or maybe that's what he already does when he's not being an annoyance here...

mbf

10-09-2007, 03:46 PM

Kriss

10-10-2007, 01:16 AM

Go piss in your tinfoil hat, lunatic.
If you walked(or were dragged) into any psych ward babbling the kind of batshit crazy BS that you post on this forum you would be put in restraints and heavily medicated like all the other paranoid-schizophrenics, you fuckin' flake...get some therapy, asswipe.
And maybe you should also consider laying off the crackpipe for a while...

And we thought Jamie Michelle was an annoying, batshit-crazy troll...this clown may even be worse.

Co-sign!!!!! chefmike....What in the fuck was he trying to get accross, other than the fact he knows how to take up alot of space??? :banghead

Sorry, did I bring back bad memories from your days in the CHERRY MARINES?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2112403836095153465

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5004673647353582620

Night Rider

10-10-2007, 01:30 AM

deap breaths kriss, deep breaths

chefmike

10-10-2007, 05:08 AM

mbf

10-10-2007, 10:20 PM

Go piss in your tinfoil hat, lunatic.
If you walked(or were dragged) into any psych ward babbling the kind of batshit crazy BS that you post on this forum you would be put in restraints and heavily medicated like all the other paranoid-schizophrenics, you fuckin' flake...get some therapy, asswipe.
And maybe you should also consider laying off the crackpipe for a while...

And we thought Jamie Michelle was an annoying, batshit-crazy troll...this clown may even be worse.

Co-sign!!!!! chefmike....What in the fuck was he trying to get accross, other than the fact he knows how to take up alot of space??? :banghead

Sorry, did I bring back bad memories from your days in the CHERRY MARINES?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2112403836095153465

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5004673647353582620

lmao dude, what did you say bout chefmike and repeating himself, as a sign of getting old???

you are just repeatedly posting the same nutty-links from idiot-video-central !!!

say hello to diapers and the wheelchair, grandpa Kriss!!!

Kriss

10-13-2007, 07:45 AM

From THE GUARDIAN newspaper

Raids Begin in Anna Nicole Smith Probe

Saturday October 13, 2007 6:16 AM

By ROBERT JABLON and PAUL ELIAS

Associated Press Writer

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Authorities investigating the death of Anna Nicole Smith raided six locations Friday, including the offices and residences of two doctors, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County district attorney's office said.

County prosecutors were aware of the raids in the Los Angeles area but were not involved in the operation, said spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons. She did not comment further; Attorney General Jerry Brown was expected to make an announcement on the case later Friday.

Smith, a former Playboy Playmate, died of an accidental drug overdose in February at a Florida hotel. She was 39.

Ellyn Garafalo, a lawyer for Dr. Sandeep Kapoor, who prescribed methadone to Smith shortly before she died, confirmed the doctor's home and offices were among those raided but declined to comment further.

Several people close to the model have fallen under suspicion since her death, including her psychiatrist Dr. Khristine Eroshevich. (C.I.A.)

The Medical Board of California said in April it was investigating Eroshevich, who, according to documents, authorized all 11 prescription medications found in Smith's hotel room the day she died. Eroshevich had traveled with Smith to Florida.

Agents from the California Department of Justice answered the door at Eroshevich's offices Friday morning, but declined to say why they were there.

They said the doctor was not in and provided a phone number for the department's office of public information, which had no immediate comment.

A call to Eroshevich's attorney, Gary Lincenberg, was not immediately returned.

More than 600 pills, including 450 muscle relaxants, were missing from prescriptions that were no more than five weeks old, according to the documents obtained by The Associated Press through a public records request.

California's medical board also opened an inquiry to determine if there was any misconduct by Kapoor, who reportedly prescribed methadone to Smith.

Methadone is a popular narcotic painkiller that is used as part of drug addiction detoxification and maintenance programs. Methadone overdoses can cause shallow breathing and dangerous changes in heartbeat.

A lawyer for Howard K. Stern, Smith's attorney and companion, has said she took the sleeping aid to cope with grief over the death of her son Daniel, 20, in the Bahamas. Smith gave birth to daughter Dannielynn in September 2006, a few days before the death of her son.

Stern initially claimed to be Dannielynn's father, but Smith's ex-boyfriend Larry Birkhead eventually showed he was the father and is now raising the child.

The baby could inherit millions from the estate of Smith's late husband, Texas oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall II. A judge has appointed Birkhead guardian of the estate.
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Associated Press Writer Paul Elias reported from San Francisco. Associated Press Writer Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles also contributed to this story.