Any shemales in Kuwait

[shemaleseeker]

Hi,

id like to know if there are any shemales from Kuwait in here or anyone knows a way to find them. thanx.

[domme]

Are these things not banned in Middle East?

I mean I do sound really unaware - but that is because I am.

But as far as I know, those countries are so backward, to them shemales might not be even counted as humans.

[pot]

Are these things not banned in Middle East?

I mean I do sound really unaware - but that is because I am.

But as far as I know, those countries are so backward, to them shemales might not be even counted as humans.
Totally agree - wouldnt ever inform of such even though pretty sure that there must be shemale of middle east origin

[Coroner]

I´m sure there are transgender persons but I don´t think you´re gonna find any escort there since Kuwait is state with an constution based on Islam.

[SarahG]

Are these things not banned in Middle East?

That is a complicated question. Some sects over there are tolerant of trans people so long they are clear cut cases, and also cases where the person is (at least to them) straight.

Khomenei was fairly supportive of straight trans people, advocated marriage rights, state funded medical benefits...

But the middle east is famous for picking & choosing what aspects of ideologies of its past leaders to follow. Kuwauit and UAE are the more progressive countries over there, I would certainly not have the same concerns with those locations as say, Egypt with their "state of emergency" and all the reports of police misconduct that have been flowing out of their country over the years. It isn't uncommon for Egypt law enforcement to use personal ads for stings to try to catch homosexuals.

[African]

Totally agree - wouldnt ever inform of such even though pretty sure that there must be shemale of middle east origin

I've been a lurking member of these forums for more than a year now, and only decided to join today because of the acumen that pot and domme exhibited in their distructive answers.

Domme said: "those countries are so backward. I think the only backward thing in here is your answer. If one is clueless about the Middle-East they shouldn't even be talking...But of course people who spend half of their time watching porn and the other half digesting what the Corporate media is feeding them, wouldn't know better.

Now allow me to take a couple of minutes to educate you my friends. Instead of calling the countries of the Middle East backward, you should say they are conservative. Because the region is as far from that notation as the distance between the Sun and Pluto. The whole Middle-East lead by Dubai is undergoing an Economical and Institutional renaissance compared and even exceeding the boom of the Asian Economies in the nineties. When it come to prostitution, of course it is illegal as it is illegal in the US, but besides Mecca (the wholiest city in Islam) and some parts of Iran, it is definitely NOT punishable by death or stoning. So usually if someone is caught, it's a fine or in extremis, jail time and or deportation. Nevertheless, Dubai, which is geographically close to Kuwait is known for being targeted by people who want to practice prostitution, especially from the fat East and Europe. Some Americans go there for the same reason as well. So one can do a quick research online and know what really goes there.

Finally, they are people in the region who are trying to introduce more freedoms to their societies. To liberalize their social moeurs. People like shemaleseeker from Kuwait. I bet you he would love to see Transexual women being able to live freely in his society and meet other people and do business etc...If we shut him up, him and liberal people like him in his land, aren't we really keeping the status-quo? Aren't we helping those conservative bigots we all want see disappear? I think in this, both your answers Domme and Pot, were shortsighted.

[African]

Khomenei was fairly supportive of straight trans people, advocated marriage rights, state funded medical benefits...

But the middle east is famous for picking & choosing what aspects of ideologies of its past leaders to follow. Kuwauit and UAE are the more progressive countries over there, I would certainly not have the same concerns with those locations as say, Egypt with their "state of emergency" and all the reports of police misconduct that have been flowing out of their country over the years. It isn't uncommon for Egypt law enforcement to use personal ads for stings to try to catch homosexuals.

It's funny, I read something about this awhile back. That Transexuals have more freedom in Iran than Europe.

Here is an article I found:
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/Maryam/Maryam.html

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/08/02/international/02iran.jpg

[peggygee]

African, great first post. :wink:

You are to be commended for your knowledge both of Islamic society,
and of the trancommunity.

As you have pointed out there are indeed transsexuals in the Muslim
world. The arabic word for transsexual is "mukhannath", and their
existence has been reported in the Quaran.

Fatwas allowing SRS have been issued in a number of Isamic countries,
including Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, etc.

A fatwa is a legal opinion or ruling issued by an Islamic scholar, judge
or mufti. It will be based upon the Qur'an, Sunnah and Islamic
Shari'ah. The Shari'ah is the revealed and the canonical laws
of the religion of Islam.

Additional material discussing Islam and transsexualism:

A fatwa for transsexuals
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/07/28/iran_transsexuals/index.html

Sexuality, gender & Islam
http://www.safraproject.org/sgi-genderidentity.htm

Transsexuality In Iran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran

A Muslim TS Group
http://groups.msn.com/TheSisterhood/transgenderinislam.msnw

[peggygee]

On a related note:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/jerusalempost.gif


Aug. 13, 2007 10:21
New Reform manual adds
blessings for sex changes

By BEN HARRIS / JTA



In a groundbreaking move to recognize the experiences of transgender Jews, the Reform movement has published several prayers for sanctifying the sex-change process.

The Union for Reform Judaism this week released the second edition of Kulanu, the union's 500-page resource manual for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender inclusion. The guide includes two blessings authored by Rabbi Elliot Kukla for transitioning genders.

Kukla, who was known as Eliza when ordained in 2006 by the movement's New York seminary, originally wrote the blessings for a friend who wanted to mark each time he received testosterone therapy. Still, Kukla believes they are appropriate for multiple moments in the sex-change process, including "moments of medical transitions."

Broad sections of the Jewish community now accept gays and lesbians serving as rabbis and cantors, and many support rabbinic officiation at same-sex commitment ceremonies. But the Reform movement, the country's largest synagogue denomination, had never gone as far as to say that it is kosher to recite a blessing for a sex change.

"There was a conversation about what we should include and what we shouldn't include," said Rabbi Richard Address, one of Kulanu's editors and the director of the union's Department of Jewish Family Concerns. "This was going to be a little bit out there."

The first Hebrew blessing praises God as "the Transforming One to those who transform/transition/cross over." A second blessing, intended to be said after completing the transition process, praises God, "who has made me in his image" - a reference to the description in Genesis of the creation of Adam.
A final blessing is the familiar Shehechiyanu, traditionally recited to mark special events or notable firsts.

"The midrash, classical Jewish exegesis, adds that the adam harishon, the first human being formed in God's likeness, was an androgynos, an intersex person," Kukla writes in a brief introduction. "Hence our tradition teaches that all bodies and genders are created in God's image whether we identify as men, women, intersex, or something else."

First published in 1996, the original version of Kulanu was a 150-page collection of texts intended as a resource for gay and lesbian inclusion. The updated version is significantly expanded, and includes liturgy for same-sex union ceremonies, a divorce document for same-sex couples and a prayer for coming out regarding one's sexual identity.

The new volume also includes a section on the history of Reform Judaism's response to the challenge of sexual and gender identity, documenting a 40-year period of increasing willingness to normalize the status of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender individuals in the movement.

The issue of transgender Jews was first addressed in 1978 when the Central Conference of American Rabbis deemed it permissible for one who had undergone a sex-change operation to be married according to Jewish tradition. In 1990, the CCAR allowed such individuals to be converted. And in 2003, the union retroactively applied its policy on gays and lesbians to the transgender and bisexual communities.

"It's a logical next step in this process," Address said of the new liturgy.
Still, those involved in designing Kulanu - Hebrew for "all of us" - wondered if the movement, even with its trailblazing history on these issues, was prepared to sanctify sex-change procedures.

Along with the liturgy, the new version also includes essays by Kukla and Reuben Zellman, who in 2003 became the movement's first transgender rabbinical student, aimed at making congregations more sensitive. The material instructs congregants in matters of using the proper pronoun and encourages synagogues to install a gender-neutral rest room.
"We are living in the midst of one of the greatest transitions in American Jewish life," Address said. "And this is part of it."

[FREEFALLL666]

I did hear an Immam on Sharaiah TV a programme dedicated to Islam in the UK state when asked by a transsexual and I paraphrase "What do I do as a transsexual woman? Do I abstain from sex or marriage or do I find a woman?" The Immam responded that as god has made a woman inside a mans body and she is attracted to men that she should behave as a woman. I dont fully understand the views of Asian muslims but apparently that is the majority view of UK muslims.

[SarahG]

It's funny, I read something about this awhile back. That Transexuals have more freedom in Iran than Europe.

Iran during which time period?

But you are right, during the 80s trans people debatably had it better off in Iran than just about anywhere in the West.

[justatransgirl]

Peggy - you amaze me! How do you find all this great info?

As for Kuwait - well TS escorts may be illegal, but judging from the number of video downloads we get from the Mid-East, and the calls and offers I receive from locals as well as our boys in the military, and "contractors" (let's just call them Mercenaries, OK) I'd say TS sex is alive and well.

In Iran anyway as I understand it, being transgendered is considered a medical condition and the State will pay for SRS. At the same time if you engage in same sex activities you will be stoned or hung.

So what that means for Jessica and I is they would pay for our sex changes, then murder us.

So far to go...

Sigh,
TS Jamie :-)

[peggygee]

Peggy - you amaze me! How do you find all this great info?



Thanks Jamie. :wink:

I'm anal-retentive above information, and really do
believe knowledge is power.

And HA, like I said before anal-retentive doesn't mean
what you think it does.

:lol:

[evilash]

Hi,

id like to know if there are any shemales from Kuwait in here or anyone knows a way to find them. thanx.Yo dem bitches are da bomb!!!, Really they are... Yeahyah!!!!

[ts33a]

Yes I saw them for a while in a coffee shop in down town Kuwait. There were about a dozen or so of them but they were very closed. They only socilaized among them selves. Did not even look at anybody. But let me tell you somehting , THEY WERE HOTTTT. The owner of the place was such a jerk/retard, he did kicked them out of the place. Nobody goes there now cause they were, the center of attraction. I wish I can find them again.

[shemaleseeker]

Some of you guys are wrong but some of you got it right.Let me enlighten you guys on the scene.

* Prostitution of any kind is illegal in Kuwait including this kind but the scene is very much alive and shemales are expensive.

*Shemales here are really,really hot,they are gorgeous with a few exceptions here and there.

*Yes,they keep to themselves and normally DO NOT mingle with anyone than their own.

*They are mostly shunned in public,people tend to attack them and call the cops on them if they notice a shemale gathering.

*The ones I've noticed were quite unstable,Im guessing its because of all the sex changing hormonal drugs or may be they are sore from the all the societal shunning,I feel sorry for them. :cry:

[shemaleseeker]

Yes I saw them for a while in a coffee shop in down town Kuwait. There were about a dozen or so of them but they were very closed. They only socilaized among them selves. Did not even look at anybody. But let me tell you somehting , THEY WERE HOTTTT. The owner of the place was such a jerk/retard, he did kicked them out of the place. Nobody goes there now cause they were, the center of attraction. I wish I can find them again.


dude,where in q8 ru from ?