off topic -animal cruelty

[tsntx]

this is truely disgusting and actually made me cry while reading...

http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vcGhvdG9idWNrZXQuY29t

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q3/rmaldonado28/Toby.jpg

This was Tobey.

Guadalupe County prosecutors are vowing to throw the book at three boys charged with torturing and killing a puppy that had been given to a neighbor's teenage daughter a few months ago.
"I was sickened, all of us were absolutely sickened," said Guadalupe County Attorney Elizabeth Murray-Kolb. "They found the easiest target, a friendly little dog. They were seen petting it." The boys, ages 12, 14 and 16, took the 5-month-old Pomeranian mix named Toby on Tuesday to an abandoned house on Glenewinkel Road in Geronimo. What followed was a sadistic scene of torture and mutilation, according to officials at the Sheriff's Department and County Attorney's office. They said the boys took the dog to the second floor of the house and twice threw it out a window, breaking its legs. Then they used a rope to hang the dog from a tree by its broken hind legs and used a lighter to burn its genitals. "They got a board with nails sticking out of it and used the dog as a piñata," Murray-Kolb said. Finally, they used a folding pocketknife to decapitate Toby. Murray-Kolb said she did not know if the dog was dead or alive when its head was cut off. A deputy was called to the abandoned house by a neighbor, who reported suspicious activity at about 6:30 p.m. Tuesday. The deputy found the boys and noticed blood on their clothes, said Guadalupe County Sheriff's Department Lt. Kevin Jordan. The deputy then found the decapitated dog, still hanging by its hind legs from the tree. The three boys are all charged with animal cruelty resulting in death. If tried as adults, they could receive two years in jail and a fine for the state jail felony. But as juveniles, they could be locked up at a Texas Youth Commission facility until they turn 19. That's what officials hope to do. "These boys are a danger to the community," said Assistant County Attorney Nan Udell, who will prosecute the case. "We want society to be protected as long as we have the ability to protect it. As children, the goal is always rehabilitation. I don't know if that's possible here." "The only remorse I've seen is they are sorry they got caught," Udell said. County Court-at-Law Judge Linda Jones on Wednesday ordered all three boys to be detained in the Seguin juvenile lockup for 10 days, until their next mandated court hearing. The killing shocked the dog's owners. Toby was a "very playful, cute little puppy," said Lenora Tavera. She said the dog was a gift from a friend to her 16-year-old daughter, Stephanie, a couple of months ago. Toby had a habit of escaping from their fenced yard to play with neighbors and their dogs. Tavera said her daughter "knows one of the boys. She couldn't believe they would do that to a dog." rcroteau@express-news.net

We are asking for the MAXIMUM PUNISHMENT for these boys, so please write to the Guadalupe County Attorney General requesting that she seek justice.

Guadalupe County AttorneyElizabeth Murray-Kolb..101 East Court Street, Suite 104 Seguin, Texas 78155 830.303.6130 Fax 830.379.9491 ... www.co.guadalupe.tx.us/co_attny.htm -

[Legend]

Poor little guy,those three are future micheal vicks,you know thats how criminals get started but most likely those little punks will get a slap on the wrist.

"As children, the goal is always rehabilitation"

Good luck with that pal most likely when their older one might mug you.

[jsroland]

There should be better laws protecting animals, it like no one really gives a shit. Make an example out of Vicks.

[timxxx]

There should be better laws protecting animals, it like no one really gives a shit. Make an example out of Vicks.

Is that for just the cute ones :?:

[jsroland]

There should be better laws protecting animals, it like no one really gives a shit. Make an example out of Vicks.

Is that for just the cute ones :?:Ugly ones too, but really all animals are cute :D

[tsntx]

n"

Good luck with that pal most likely when their older one might mug you.

its a lot more serious then that... its a proven fact that most *not sure of percentage* serial killers have committed animal cruelty/ killings as children. :google

[SarahG]

n"

Good luck with that pal most likely when their older one might mug you.

its a lot more serious then that... its a proven fact that most *not sure of percentage* serial killers have committed animal cruelty/ killings as children. :google

It goes beyond serial killers, I have seen statistics linking childhood animal cruelty w/ domestic violence as adults.

I mean real animal cruelty mind you, not that crap peta goes nuclear over.

[Legend]

n"

Good luck with that pal most likely when their older one might mug you.

its a lot more serious then that... its a proven fact that most *not sure of percentage* serial killers have committed animal cruelty/ killings as children. :google

Your right i don't know why i said mug because i seen a special on the son of sam and begin his spree by trying to kill a dog.

[chrissynw]

Horrible stuff, right now there should be a huge red warning light flashing for those kids parents and the local authorities, do something now before they're totally beyond help.

[tonkatoy]

There are times when situations like this should not see the light of day, but rather the three kids should just disappear. But instead we will get a bunch of bleeding hearts treating those kids like they are in fact the victims. I think after the first few cases like this were resolved with the kids heads ending up on pikes with an explanation of why they ended up there, it might dissuade others from indulging in the same behavior. Course this is absurd, and i am just venting i guess, but I would not cry if karma decided to snuff them out in suitable gruesome ways.

[SXFX]

There is a special place in hell for people like this!
These kids and their parents should be put away for a very very very long time!

[SarahG]

There are times when situations like this should not see the light of day, but rather the three kids should just disappear. But instead we will get a bunch of bleeding hearts treating those kids like they are in fact the victims. I think after the first few cases like this were resolved with the kids heads ending up on pikes with an explanation of why they ended up there, it might dissuade others from indulging in the same behavior. Course this is absurd, and i am just venting i guess, but I would not cry if karma decided to snuff them out in suitable gruesome ways.

Yea, that makes perfect sense. ITS ALL THE LIBERAL'S FAULT. :banghead :banghead

:roll:

Honestly, if you got this case as a DA, and you had a choice of 2 years in adult prison or 6-7 in juvie, which would you chose? I certainly wouldn't want them on the streets in 2 years.

[tsntx]

There are times when situations like this should not see the light of day, but rather the three kids should just disappear. But instead we will get a bunch of bleeding hearts treating those kids like they are in fact the victims. I think after the first few cases like this were resolved with the kids heads ending up on pikes with an explanation of why they ended up there, it might dissuade others from indulging in the same behavior. Course this is absurd, and i am just venting i guess, but I would not cry if karma decided to snuff them out in suitable gruesome ways.

Yea, that makes perfect sense. ITS ALL THE LIBERAL'S FAULT. :banghead :banghead

:roll:

Honestly, if you got this case as a DA, and you had a choice of 2 years in adult prison or 6-7 in juvie, which would you chose? I certainly wouldn't want them on the streets in 2 years.

i agree the longer they are locked up the better chance for rehabilitation... you put them in a REAL jail for 2yrs they will have become raped bitter hardened men and well ALL be paying when they get out... the longer the better

[Radaral]

They took something a teen girl held close and brutally killed it. Also that artical wasn't descriptive enough. It's possible the teen girl was a very stuck up and mean popular girl who felt she was better than everyone else and bullyed other girls at school and called the boys losers and made fun of them, But the girl could have been a sweet girl who was viewed as a loser and the boys could have been popular at school and been as I described the girl as being. But either way it's not fair that the dog had to die. What did he do? He's just a nice little friendly puppy and animals are more intelligent than people give them credit for. What they did would be like killing a mommys baby for something the mother did. So I feel they should get punished in someway. But They should not be tryed as adults because they are still teens.

[Legend]

It seems jeffery dahmer torture animals as well at the age of 16,there is Defintely a pattern.

[Radaral]

It seems jeffery dahmer torture animals as well at the age of 16,there is Defintely a pattern.

According to his father that is not true at all.
He even wrote a book about his son where he said there was no truth to that and Jeff even said he didn't do that on an interview.

[tsntx]

It's possible the teen girl was a very stuck up and mean popular girl who felt she was better than everyone else and bullyed other girls at school and called the boys losers and made fun of them, But the girl could have been a sweet girl who was viewed as a loser and the boys could have been popular at school and been as I described the girl as being.

:banghead :banghead :banghead ONLY 5 posts and im already annoyed and bothered by you

wtf does anything i quoted you at have ANYTHING TO DO W/ THE TOPIC???? it doesnt matter if thats how she was or wasnt!!! you DONT know how she was... theses kids are fucked up in the head to do that whether or not this girl was mean to them... holy crap im counting down the days til you get banned... w/ idiotic comments like that and making threads about not wanting to see PORN on a PORN site ... ugh wtf. you are the weakest link... GOODBYE! :roll:

[Radaral]

It's possible the teen girl was a very stuck up and mean popular girl who felt she was better than everyone else and bullyed other girls at school and called the boys losers and made fun of them, But the girl could have been a sweet girl who was viewed as a loser and the boys could have been popular at school and been as I described the girl as being.

:banghead :banghead :banghead ONLY 5 posts and im already annoyed and bothered by you

wtf does anything i quoted you at have ANYTHING TO DO W/ THE TOPIC???? it doesnt matter if thats how she was or wasnt!!! you DONT know how she was... theses kids are fucked up in the head to do that whether or not this girl was mean to them... holy crap im counting down the days til you get banned... w/ idiotic comments like that and making threads about not wanting to see PORN on a PORN site ... ugh wtf. you are the weakest link... GOODBYE! :roll:

Don't you get an attitude with me bitch I'll stick my foot up your ass and have you shitting socks for weeks.

[tsntx]

you wish fag

[Frank Z]

Isn't the better question to ask, why did they do it ?

Was it out of boredom, or because they wanted to get at the girl, or whatever else reason they might have had for doing such an evil act.

Taking them away to jail doesn't serve a purpose, I would sentence them to work in an animal shelter under supervision so they could help other animals in need. Maybe it would dawn to them what they did....Hopefully....

Trying to have them work a way out of their cruelty and apparent brutal behaviour before they hit a stage where they may kill or rape or torture a human being.

[Frank Z]

It's possible the teen girl was a very stuck up and mean popular girl who felt she was better than everyone else and bullyed other girls at school and called the boys losers and made fun of them, But the girl could have been a sweet girl who was viewed as a loser and the boys could have been popular at school and been as I described the girl as being.

:banghead :banghead :banghead ONLY 5 posts and im already annoyed and bothered by you

wtf does anything i quoted you at have ANYTHING TO DO W/ THE TOPIC???? it doesnt matter if thats how she was or wasnt!!! you DONT know how she was... theses kids are fucked up in the head to do that whether or not this girl was mean to them... holy crap im counting down the days til you get banned... w/ idiotic comments like that and making threads about not wanting to see PORN on a PORN site ... ugh wtf. you are the weakest link... GOODBYE! :roll:

Don't you get an attitude with me bitch I'll stick my foot up your ass and have you shitting socks for weeks.



Wow....that's damn nasty and totally rude....

[Radaral]

Isn't the better question to ask, why did they do it ?

Was it out of boredom, or because they wanted to get at the girl, or whatever else reason they might have had for doing such an evil act.

Taking them away to jail doesn't serve a purpose, I would sentence them to work in an animal shelter under supervision so they could help other animals in need. Maybe it would dawn to them what they did....Hopefully....

Trying to have them work a way out of their cruelty and apparent brutal behaviour before they hit a stage where they may kill or rape or torture a human being.

They wanted to get at the girl. But either way the Dog didn't deserve that. Because that's a really painful and inhumane death, and why should something innocent die for something someone else did?

[Gouki]

there are many times in my life that I have found myself having alot more respect for animals than humans and after reading that horrible story I must say that this one of those times, animal cruelty sucks

it is also rumored that retired NFL player Michael Irvin of the dallas cowboys is known to have hosted pitbull dogfights a la Michael Vick style and being the MMA (mixed martial arts) fan that I am, supposedly one of the Gracies lives next to him and has seen these fights take place and has stated "if Irvin wants to see a fight, tell him to get in the cage with me and I'll show him a fight he will never forget"

[SarahG]

Taking them away to jail doesn't serve a purpose, I would sentence them to work in an animal shelter under supervision so they could help other animals in need. Maybe it would dawn to them what they did....Hopefully....

Trying to have them work a way out of their cruelty and apparent brutal behaviour before they hit a stage where they may kill or rape or torture a human being.

If I were the DA or Judge I would be very, very, very uncomfortable sending these kids to go spend time with more animals!

[RogerUK]

anyone that hurts animals, purposly, should be shot on site :!:

[tsntx]

Isn't the better question to ask, why did they do it ?

Was it out of boredom, or because they wanted to get at the girl, or whatever else reason they might have had for doing such an evil act.

Taking them away to jail doesn't serve a purpose, I would sentence them to work in an animal shelter under supervision so they could help other animals in need. Maybe it would dawn to them what they did....Hopefully....

Trying to have them work a way out of their cruelty and apparent brutal behaviour before they hit a stage where they may kill or rape or torture a human being.

They wanted to get at the girl. But either way the Dog didn't deserve that. Because that's a really painful and inhumane death, and why should something innocent die for something someone else did?

DUDE seriously STFU... again w/ this bs about w/e the girl did.. dumbass you dont know shit so STFU and go play your violin some more while sorting through all the porn pics on here... jackass! :roll:

[Legend]

They took something a teen girl held close and brutally killed it. Also that artical wasn't descriptive enough. It's possible the teen girl was a very stuck up and mean popular girl who felt she was better than everyone else and bullyed other girls at school and called the boys losers and made fun of them, But the girl could have been a sweet girl who was viewed as a loser and the boys could have been popular at school and been as I described the girl as being. But either way it's not fair that the dog had to die. What did he do? He's just a nice little friendly puppy and animals are more intelligent than people give them credit for. What they did would be like killing a mommys baby for something the mother did. So I feel they should get punished in someway. But They should not be tryed as adults because they are still teens.


Those are some of the most idiotic assumptions i've ever heard,those future criminals should be tried as adults for doing an adult crime.

[Legend]

It's possible the teen girl was a very stuck up and mean popular girl who felt she was better than everyone else and bullyed other girls at school and called the boys losers and made fun of them, But the girl could have been a sweet girl who was viewed as a loser and the boys could have been popular at school and been as I described the girl as being.

:banghead :banghead :banghead ONLY 5 posts and im already annoyed and bothered by you

wtf does anything i quoted you at have ANYTHING TO DO W/ THE TOPIC???? it doesnt matter if thats how she was or wasnt!!! you DONT know how she was... theses kids are fucked up in the head to do that whether or not this girl was mean to them... holy crap im counting down the days til you get banned... w/ idiotic comments like that and making threads about not wanting to see PORN on a PORN site ... ugh wtf. you are the weakest link... GOODBYE! :roll:

Don't you get an attitude with me bitch I'll stick my foot up your ass and have you shitting socks for weeks.

"They wanted to get at the girl. But either way the Dog didn't deserve that. Because that's a really painful and inhumane death, and why should something innocent die for something someone else did?"

Norman bates?

[Devon]

DUDE seriously STFU... again w/ this bs about w/e the girl did.. dumbass you dont know shit so STFU and go play your violin some more while sorting through all the porn pics on here... jackass!

Oh Snap! PWND!!!! :claps

[Radaral]

Isn't the better question to ask, why did they do it ?

Was it out of boredom, or because they wanted to get at the girl, or whatever else reason they might have had for doing such an evil act.

Taking them away to jail doesn't serve a purpose, I would sentence them to work in an animal shelter under supervision so they could help other animals in need. Maybe it would dawn to them what they did....Hopefully....

Trying to have them work a way out of their cruelty and apparent brutal behaviour before they hit a stage where they may kill or rape or torture a human being.

They wanted to get at the girl. But either way the Dog didn't deserve that. Because that's a really painful and inhumane death, and why should something innocent die for something someone else did?

DUDE seriously STFU... again w/ this bs about w/e the girl did.. dumbass you dont know shit so STFU and go play your violin some more while sorting through all the porn pics on here... jackass! :roll:

All girls are bitches and only want men for there money.