New Adult Transsexual Awards Committee welcomes: BIGGUY!

[Events]

New Adult Transsexual Awards Committee Holding Contest to Find Board Member

Breaking News!

The shemale/transsexual adult entertainment community is finally going to be represented by the newly formed Adult Transsexual Awards (A.T.A). The A.T.A will hold a yearly ceremony to award excellence in all aspets of the ts adult industry. The A.T.A (which will disclose more details as to when, who, and what later in a press release) is looking for a sixth board member to join its committee. They are looking for a FAN to complete the committee.

AND THE WINNER IS........

BIGGUY!

Congrats.

[shemalejunky]

I nominate Bigguy, for bringing happiness into the homes of many fans who cannot attend any of Allanah's parties.

[blckhaze]

second that. always keepin us 18-21 yr old guys and workaholics who cant attemd up to speed

[Niels Bohr]

Yes Bigguy I second that, or third it as the case may be

[rvince]

Can I nominate myself?

if not, please somebody nominate me ;-)

[Bigguy]

Thanks guys, I would like to try this, but I may be considered a bit affiliated to be in this contest.

If not, here are my qualifications. I consider myself a TS fan for the last 15 years or so, and have been interested in them a bit longer than that. I used to see a lot of TS videos until the internet came around and since then I've been a member at one point or another of most of the major TS sites. In the last two years I've been going to Allanah's major parties and having a good ole time.

[WendyWilliams]

Wow interesting news, Should be very interesting and hopefully involves the whole ts industry not just friends of and or lack of, LOL.

I nominate if not Bigguy Popperluv

Get it guys if it succeeds it will be something positive for our industry.

Hugs
Wendy

[Caleigh]

I nominate myself to be on this committee.

I am not in the adult entertainment industry nor do I have any commecial or even personal affiliation with this site or any other site of this kind.

I am fulltime TS, have a strong background in the arts (to help in my esthetic judgement of the girls) and as well am a film buff. What I will bring is a critical yet detached perspective to this board. I have the personal experience of being TS combined with an outsiders objectivity.

thankyou.

[Ecstatic]

I second Caleigh's self-nomination!

[hondarobot]

Crazy, I haven't been in for a few days and I must have missed this post last time I dropped by.

I nominate myself, on the grounds that I've had four beers, wish for world peace, believe that last song had a good beat and was easy to dance to, and can further more name it in just three notes.

Hmmm. . .come to think of it, perhaps I've had five beers. . .and a small nip of whiskey. . .

Now I'm off to make my campaign pins and construct a victory chariot!

Well, maybe I'll just buy a trumpet that I can, with any luck, blow triumphantly when the voting is over.

Then again, perhaps it's easier to just accept defeat now, and bask in the glow of a hard fought campaign. . .

:)

[Niels Bohr]

I'm surprised no one is nominating themselves for this, hell I nominated my self on the ground that I just got up i'm smoking a menthol cigarette, i join to my go nowhere job, and I'm broke....yeah :D

[hondarobot]

You make a compelling case for yourself, Niels. But I feel I should point out that in your earlier post you "thirded" Bigguy! I don't think we need any further ballot box stuffing this early in the game.

(Another point in my favor: I'm deeply concerned about maintaining the integrity of the political process) 8)

[hondarobot]

Seeing as I'm not drunk right now (although I plan on working on that later) I just thought I'd get serious for a moment. I really would like to be part of this deal.

I am employed as the chief light/sound technician at one of the largest GLBT nightclubs in the country (at least that's what they tell us). I've worked, drank with, and am friends with many drag queens, TG girls, and TS girls. They've been a part of my life a long time and I love each and every one of them (well, except for the crazy ones :))

We hold nationally recognized pagents (none of which I've been a judge on) and honestly, the're all "drag" oriented. Some TS girls have been involved, though.

I honestly would love to be a part of this. I'm not involved with the professional TS girl scene (in Minneapolis, we don't have a large "pro" scene yet), but I hope I can bring something to the whole group.

-Jeff

[Vicki Richter]

This is dumb. You will never have an unbiased awards panel. I guarantee it. As far as fan voting, they used to have this voting thing on Androgeny.com for people's favorite girls. These obscure girls that, to be honest, didn't look that great always had 25,000 votes to everyone elses 4,000 and were clearly voting for themselves.

If you have a panel, they can't be swayed by 1) having slept with a girl, 2) geography (west coast vs east coast), 3) nationality... I mean I could go on, but please. If I was on this panel, the top 5 in every category would be all Brazillians. If Seanchi was on the panel, they would probably all be asians. If spooky was on the panel, they would all be Xtravaganza girls.

There are tons of beauty contests where people can be selected in person. Trust me, you cannot select a best looking transsexual from pictures.
There is already a porn star contest (AVN) where girls are selected for performance in videos. Keep in mind this comes from people who have actually seen the videos (reviewers, etc).

Look at any transsexual top list today and you will see that web voting is totally fixed. Most smart people can bypass any cookie based voting allocation to vote over and over again unchecked. Again, I would seriously question most panels for favoritism.

Tell me how the process is guaranteed to be fair and maybe I would buy into it. This doesn't really seem all that well thought out on the surface.

[NYCe]

Vicki = Debbie Downer

(For those unfamiliar with the term, I submit this link)
http://www.jengajam.com/r/Debbie-Downer-SNL

[hondarobot]

It seems to me that just about any awards event has it's pro and cons related to how the winners are selected, but that's what's great about the community on these boards. There's such a diverse cast of individuals here that everyone has some valuable input to add.

There's people who know politics, history, internet applications, even people who know tons about the porn industry in general, the TS scene in particular, and know the girls personally (not to mention the girls themselves, of course).

I think if everyone adds their opinion on the subject, we'd have no trouble at all addressing the various issues, submit ideas to the events coordinators, and eventually girth birth to the industry standard for Transexual Awards ceremonies.

It might take some work, but it's certainly a damn good idea and high time we see it become a reality.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Does Vicki Richter have ever anything positive to say?

As if the AVN was not the most rigged, advetising influenced awards show it is. Yes there is already the AVN- but is there only one awards show for any industry?

Debbie Downer- give people a break for trying to do something new and different.

Kisses

Allanah

[Vicki Richter]

That is pretty funny Allanah, Oh She of the Forked Tongue. Yes I do say positive things... just not about concept ideas that haven't been thought out sufficiently. I don't see people clamouring to inform everyone how these awards are going to be fair and unbiased.

I seem to recall complimenting Gia not too long ago in a nice positive manner. I give props when they are due. I've complimented shemaleyum on being a good site. I've complimented you on your huge melons, etc.

Vicki

[hondarobot]

Hey, come on now, I clamoured! Check it out, right up there a few posts back, there's me, clamouring like crazy!

Ehhhhhhh. . . .

[Vicki Richter]

Honda baby, you aren't part of the club. You will never make their special NYC voting committee. I love NYCE and Bigguy, but it's still NYC centric, just like this site. Quoting Allanah about NYC, "it all happens here", but all the porn happens on the left coast.

I really want Megabody to come back. Gregg baby where are you fucker?

[hondarobot]

?

Alot of times, I just don't understand at all what's going on here.

I'm going out drinking.

[Ecstatic]

I'm drinking (Lagavulin neat, 16 years old) and I think I follow Vicki's train of thought here: this scene--HA, Allanah's parties, a lot of the posts--seem to be NYC centric. There are several major scenes in the TS world: NYC is one, LA is another, South Beach FL, Brazil, Thailand of course. I guess that SF has its scene, or at least a lot more TS escorts than most cities in the US. Boston has a small scene, Chicago, though a bigger city, apparently an even smaller scene, and everywhere else is...everywhere else. So it's like a club; if you fit in the club, there you are, but if you don't, well, you're on the outside looking in. That's ok with me, I'm always on the outside looking in, lol.

The question is whether Vicki's right about this particular awards committee being NYC-centric or not. I dunno. I guess we--wherever we are--have a chance to influence that, which would be a good thing. Personally, it doesn't mean a lot to me, but I'd like to see Jeff, NYCe, or Bigguy on the committee...heck, all of them...there's room.

[GroobySteven]

It's irrelavant where the awards would take place, both the internet and the video industry are worldwide with fans and industry from all parts of the world. I fail to see why there would be bias towards NYC just because a venue might be there, I don't see anyone trying to start anything like this elsewhere?
Furthermore, as far as my bias goes, if there was a category of "Model seanchai would like to hang out with." then she might well be Asian, as far as other categories go I think as long as everyone on the panel is open minded and each nominee would be debated, then it's got a better chance at being fair than the AVN awards.
The AVN awards are definately biased towards their advertisers - I think finally they realised that Evil Angel couldn't win all awards, every year so they slipped someone else into their best TS video this year but it will be back to normal next year - the rest of AVN's wins seemed to be based more on their power than on the actual performances/productions as usual.
I think an alternative awards is not only relevant because of this but also because of the massive number of people working in all areas of transgender erotica who don't get recognised by other awards as well as for people within this community to have some say.

seanchai

[Vicki Richter]

EA loses and breaks your "fixed" hypothesis and so you create a conspiracy theory about having them take one for the team last year to explain it. Good show. Their (EA's) stuff sells better and rents better than other companies. This is fact. On the bright side, I am glad all that $ I spent advertising with AVN last year paid off. It was really touch and go there for a bit.

There is a reason that awards like "The Academy Awards" are done by, experts who have actually seen the product. You are going to generate a product where maybe 10% has actually seen the movie and the other 90% have seen something the performer did 5 years a go and based their present performance on that. For example, the last Gia tape I have seen was one of the TS Beauty Queens. If I were to vote, I would base her performance on that because I wouldn't have any other frame of reference.

So essentially what you are doing is a popularity contest with no scientific merit for quality. Since the vote rate will be small any touring TS could create new ID's and vote for themselves 2-3 times per location and skew the results significantly. Any technically proficient person could spoof IP's or purge cookies and do the same thing.

[GroobySteven]

There's no "fixed" hypothesis, it's fact, which I've had from people high up in AVN. A few years ago when we were missed off a nomination, I mad a phone call, threatened to stop advertising and within a few hours their website was changed to include one of our DVD's. Why do you think there is no set amount of nominees per category?
I think 1 person watches the nominated DVD's for the transsexual awards for AVN, hardly a scientific poll.
Personally, my (uncounted) vote this year was for Vicki Richter when I saw the nominees. I fail to see how anything would be made scientific, it is a popularity contest of course, it's by fans and industry for fans and industry. If you don't like it, then if you win just snub the award as unworthy.

It was refreshing to see someone other than Vaniity win the award for Evil Angel, when I saw the nominees I thought Vicki Richter was the most deserving out of the list but I don't think you would have won had you not done Evil Angel productions, no matter how good your other productions had been.

I think my friend, Joey Silvera does awesome work and is one of the most innovative filmmakers around in this industry but there are other good productions out there also and ones like Shemale-Strokers who come at the same subject with a different angle.

seanchai

[tsluva]

It was refreshing to see someone other than Vaniity win the award for Evil Angel, when I saw the nominees I thought Vicki Richter was the most deserving out of the list

but I don't think you would have won had you not done Evil Angel productions, no matter how good your other productions had been.




my thoughts exactly .

i recall touching on this matter awhile back with Vickie:




Vicki R. Signing with Evil Angel


hmmm, has it come to a point where signing up with Evil Empire
becomes the only way a tgirl can possibly have a chance
win at winning a AVN performer of the year award ?




Actually, I think the Evil Angel signing wasn't necessarily related to the win... However, being in four of their releases really helped for sure. Joey movies really are excellent product. EA also had female performer of the year Lauren Phoenix signing for them and most people agree with that nom being fair.

Lastly, the award has only existed two years. In 2003 Vaniity made a ton of movies and this past year I made quite a few and probably more than any other performer. I also think being in a movie (Tales of Perversity 11) which had several nominations for other awards in AVN really helped.

Vicki






I think my friend, Joey Silvera does awesome work and is one of the most innovative filmmakers around in this industry but there are other good productions out there also and ones like Shemale-Strokers who come at the same subject with a different angle.

seanchai


there are some excellent producers/directors out there
( robert hill, roy alexander , etc )
but Joey Silvera is still the very best .

i think it was his award -winning consistency
and success that influenced Nacho Vidal to do shemale films.
( which enabled him to actually win his very first AVN award.)



i've said before that i'm somewhat suprised that a tease-film
like Shemale- Strokers would be capable of winning an
AVN award, but it is still nice
to see someone besides Evil Angel coming out as a winner.

[Felicia Katt]

I have to agree with Vicki here. Internet contests are like Chicago elections. Vote Early, Vote Often. Its too easy to stuff the ballot box for any outcome to be meaningfully democratic.

Besides, this is Hung Angels. not Hanging Chads

meow

Felicia

[hondarobot]

I think it would be cool if Vicki and Felicia worked out a way for the voting to be fair and accurate (although we're assuming that the people organizing this event haven't already done that), or maybe suggest a more viable alternative to online voting. Vicki knows the internet stuff, and Felicia knows the civics/politics stuff, and the're both really, really damn smart.

It can't be impossible to realize this sort of objective, if it was it makes the entire internet seem kinda pointless.

The alternative to figuring this out is not even trying, just punching holes in the idea. Kinda like Charlie Brown going to Lucy for psychiatric advice-

Lucy: "It's never going to work, you blockhead!"

Charlie Brown: "sigh"

[Vicki Richter]

Well obviously the people voting would have to be real people and validated as such. The ballot counters would have to be respectable and in no way affilliated with any of the votees. As I said, having a site which has Allanah all over every one of their home pages would be a little funny to be the contest holder. If there were 10 people on the committee, I would want to know who they are. There would have to be a bullet-proof way to make voting fair which is why I say that all voters would have to be real people and geographically dispersed. You want to vote, you give up your phone number to the voting committee or two ballot counters for validation. The anonymous I-net BS doesn't work for this sort of thing.

If the people are going to vote for performers in movies, they have to send the committee proof that they have seen the movie. (receipt or picture of them holding the movie). What if someone who only buys Joey flicks votes vs someone who only buys Jet Set movies vs someone who doesn't watch movies at all but sees pictures on the web a lot. I mean hey if the committee has time, buy the movies or have desired nominees submit them, and then send them around to all 10 people to watch over a period of 10 months. Sound familiar? Obviously in this setting, you would be voting for the previous year's stuff vs the latest and greatest.

On the web anything is spoofable if you leave it wide open. I could just picture Wendy going around on her tours voting for herself in every city at every Internet cafe. - Not just Wendy, but that is an example.

Also how about categories? For example, Allanah is an icon, and perhaps even a superstar, but she isn't a porn star. She's made like 3 movies or something. Most of the true porn stars are in Brazil, but they don't get their names on boxes unless they are Lisa Lawler's. I've made probably 20 flicks, but I am sure there are many girls there who have done that many or more.

The judges need to look out for "hate votes". By this I mean people giving a girl a 1 (on a scale of 1-10) for looks when she definitely is a 7 or higher or giving her body a 2 when it's a clear 8-10.

So there you have it:

1 - Well known unbiased vote counters/judges (at least 2), both tally votes independently and confirm together.
2 - Voting committee of REAL validatable people - give your #
3 - If movies are voted on, everyone has to prove that they have watched the movies in order to vote otherwise it's a joke
4 - If performers are voted on everyone has to prove... " "
5 - Unbiased, geographically dispersed voting members (10-15 is a good number)
6 - Judges watch for and discard obvious biased voting (all 10's in every catagory (tits, face, ass, cock, body, performing, photos, etc etc) (all 1's in every catagory)
7 - Maybe each voter explains why they voted what they did for each person. (robotic during a scene, doesn't talk nasty, pimples on butt, doesn't cum good, looks bored, etc)
8 - Oh, the judges/vote counters can't vote. Why? Because a judge can easily change his vote from a 7 to a 10 if the voting is close and he wants one girl to win over the other.
9 - In addition to all of the above, the results and each judges votes should be made public just like in any beauty contest or competition. If you are worried about one the girls coming to find you to kick your butt because you voted her down, then you shouldn't be a voter.
10 - It can't really be run from a site who primarily gives Allanah Starr (or any other performer, etc) constant sticky threads, huge home page advertising space, etc. I mean come on... I don't see sticky threads about Danielle dancing topless at Peanuts (when she does).

The End,

Vicki

[AllanahStarrNYC]

I just can't help it if everyone loves me lol-

NOT

get a grip
I am sure everything with this project will be handled and worked out properly-
and if you don't like it well dont support it-

PS-
Allanah Starr will be withdrawing any nominations if ever given one, as I am not interested in winning any awards. I am interested int he growth of my events, business, and careers- and through promotions is how I achieve that. That is my award.

[Niels Bohr]

What's the big deal, choose some judges they vote for who they like, let the fans nominate the nominees, simple.......who's gonna cheat? You have to at least try the system before you say it's unfair

[hondarobot]

Come on, Neils, it's hardly "simple". Nobody except the organizers of these awards knows what the details are yet, so obviously the rest of us have questions, speculate, and hopefully debate so that we can get our own ideas out there.

If there's anyone in the industry currently holding the Gold Medal, it's certainly Vicki (AVN Performer Of The Year, among other things), and I think it's awesome that she wrote that detailed, articulate, and highly informed post.

Thank you, Vicki!

:)

[LB616togo]

Sound very interesting here! is the qualication hard then this look? lmk

[hondarobot]

At long last, it's the end of the month!

Hurray!

I get the feeling the Mods will announce a winner pretty soon, and details of the AHA will be revealed.

But, then again, what do I know. . .?

[Vicki Richter]

And a group and I are developing the first ever Adult Transsexual Awards show, which will honor excellence in all mediums of transsexual adult entertainment, from film to magazines to websites. I'm particularly excited about that project because I know that we're often overlooked by the mainstream adult industry. It's really about time we got the recognition we deserve, as transsexual erotica is a huge and viable part of the adult industry. - Allanah

What a sticky thread without Allanah behind it? That couldn't be possible. I knew this was a kooky Allanah idea. Gooooo Allanah and her publicity machine. :roll: It just goes to show, if you can't win an award, make one up yourself. Oh sure you can withdraw your name from consideration, but what a great PR vehicle. Why don't they just link hungangels forums off of your site?

If you really care about legitimacy, do what Joanna did and keep working with AVN to further promote their award and award process. Do things like get on stage or get the award winners on stage for their award in front of millions of fans (including TV audience). I can just picture the TS porn award ceremony taking place in lovely New York despite the fact that you acknowledge that it all happens in LA (and South America). That is a geographical clusterfuck in and of itself. Bigguy already does his perception thing with TS Web Site awards and he does so in a fair unbiased manner. So what does that leave? Best tranny magazine? Is there such a thing anymore? Girltalk? lol. What is that other crappy magazine in LA? Transformation? What a joke. Who is actually going to buy that crap so they can responsibly vote on it?

NYCE - How can you say "lets make HA non-NYC centric" when this stuff happens?

Since I am going to make a conscious effort to negate the bad with good feedback, I will say that Allanah's eros article was awesome. Good job. You're very articulate and as always you have perfect gigantic melon boobs and your face is absolutely stunning.

Also my sincere gratitude to NYCE for providing this forum service to the public in such a free and reliable manner. The forum speed has improved dramatically over the past several months.

Finally, I would like to thank Toshiba laptops for making this note possible. Wipes away teers.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Vicki

I am amazed at what a C U N T you are.

Because that is all you can be described as really. All you have is nothing positive to say about anything.

For your FYI- these awards show was being talked about 2 years ago
by Joanna, myself, and others. It goes to show how deeply ignorant you are to all these subjects to claim to be so knowledgeable about.

Why don't you paint your self black, call your self Dionne Warwick, and start a psychich line? Oops I forgot that was a fraud too.

ANd further more- HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE THAT I AM CREATING AN AWARD FOR MYSELF.

I am for one do not need any award to validate anything. My accompliments are based on other successes. You know what I am sorry you won that award- cause you have turned out to be just as sorry as Vanity has over the whole thing. Its an award for sucking cock sweetie. It's not a god damn Oscar.

You dont even know the speciffics of how it is going to be run yet you run to all of these assumptions that you have no idea about.

Why don't you withadraw yourself from any nominations if you so hate and diasagree this awards show. OOOPS I forgot some people do need validation from an award.

[GroobySteven]

Damn - Allanah beat me to it.
Vicki you are a total cunt.

Little wonder you cannot keep a friend in this industry...
seanchai

[partlycloudy]

http://img150.echo.cx/img150/7024/photocatfight4qa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[Vicki Richter]

Allanah please. You put on a smiling face and turn around and talk your shit in private. As an example, I was in the room with Christian when you called him the day or two after your party. "What's the deal with Vicki and Joanna? Are they lovers or something?" You can play it off now or deny it, but I was there. So whatever!

I am just honest. I don't feel my award is so wonderful or great. I feel it's more legitimate than making up an award process, but that's about it. It's not on my mantle-piece. Vaniity deserved her award when she won it and I deserved it when I won it. You've repeatedly demeaned that fact, implied that it's fixed. Even suggesting this half baked TS awards thing demeans all the work Joanna put into making my award a reality and demeans me as a performer by implying it's not real. Same with you Seanchi. It's a slap in the face to come into a shemale forum with such an established fan base and hear Allanah Star fabricating her own awards thing because the one the industry has is obviously jaded in her opinion. This thing will always be tainted.

But this is my point exactly Allanah you made it for me. I didn't win my award for sucking cock. I won it for my GG/TG scenes initiating several GG pornstars into TS scenes and fucking them silly. Can you tell me why Vaniity was deserving of her award two years ago? I can. I was probably the one person who doesn't really like her on here giving her props. Did I root for her to win? Hell no. I wanted Joanna or Vo to win. But she was the most deserving TS performer for 2003. Someone as disconnected as you has no business running an awards ceremony.

Furthermore, everything you do is for PR and money, not for the betterment of our industry. I've seen several guys on HA saying the same thing. Read your interview on eros. The entire thing came accross positively, but you are clear that everything you do is for PR. PR = making money. Since you are going to ask, yes I am different in that respect. I do PR 10% of the time and just mingle the rest of the time. You think everything I say is negative? What about the fact that of all these great girls here, I am the only one giving the girl several threads down advice on transitioning? What about the fact that I am really the only girl here presenting opinions on a regular basis. You are so different right? You come in here and promote or rant (hey look at me on this TV show, hey look at me in this interview, hey look at me in NY newspaper, hey look at me on Jason Curious). Your rants? HIV, George Bush, Iraq, some fag club won't let you in in NYC. I mean please spare me! You aren't a saint and you are definitely a cunt. It takes one to know one sister.

Seanchi, you are right I will never win a lifetime achievement award for asskissing. I've never been friends with Allanah. I've never been friends with you. At best we've had a cordial semi-business relationship. At best. This business should not be a popularity contest or what can this person do for me, but it is. You make that point loud and clear.

All I care about is the fans of my genre and I truly enjoy interracting with them. You seem to have forgotten about that somewhere.

[partlycloudy]

http://img173.echo.cx/img173/5396/p42433440qa.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Vicki- you have to be one of the most ego centric, unbearable transsexuals I have ever had the displeasure of meeting.

How dare you talk about me and what I talk about in private? It is a well known fact you fucked your best friend out of signing at the Evil Angel booth and you and have told me yourself that you cant keep a trannsexual friend or that you piss off your transsexual friends always.

Ill tell you why. Cause you are insecure CUNT. Again.
That is why no one can stand you. You are totally helpless.
You quit hungangels for a week, playing a victim, then you come back a week later to make a negative comment on my post about Splash.
Misery LOVES company.

Which by the way- my case agaisnt SPLASH had 100 percent backing of The Transgender Legal Defense Fund in NYC and NOW thanks to my efforts Splash admits on there website that legally they can not discriminate against anyone at their door.

You right I am a cunt. I am a business woman and I am indeed smart.
I am a self promoter and that has gotten me to where I am today.
You are constantly bashing everything on here. I was ASKED to be part of this awards committe and I accepted knowing fully that I would not be eligible for any awards because I dont want a fucking award. You want to see an award bitch- then look at my resume, my website that I started from nothing, and the success I have made my parties and other endeavors.

Furthermore, for as jaded as I am- I have a complete huge free area of my website that explains my life and lifestyle to people at no charge. You have no idea how many thank you letters I get from that alone. You think you know me darling but all you know are your bitter assumptions.

Furthermore, the gay community has their oen awards show why cant we?
And we are going yo honor all aspects of the industry. You dont know even half the details but you sit here and talk all this shit.

Im sorry Mother Theresa, but since when did you become the patron saint of transsexuals? We are all so blessed for all of your good deeds to transsexuality arent we? For your advancement of the industry , we thank you for all your good work.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

BY the way
BIG GUY is the winner of the contest- as decided by the other members of this board.

Congratulations sweetie! We know have to secure out 5th member-who is not in NYC by the way- and we shall announce all details.

Unfortunately- this once positive thread had to be posined as always by Vicki RIchter and the charm and excitement of the contest was lost
by her Royal Cuntness Herlself.

[Caleigh]

congratulations Bigguy!!!! :)

i think you're a great choice. you know your media, to say the least. ;)

[hondarobot]

OK, this can most definately be viewed as "sour grapes" on my part, but Big Guy being picked by the members of this board? He got a shout-out from shemale junky and blckhaze, and a split vote from Wendy (between him and popperluv). Oh, and Neils Bohr put his word in. . .before nominating himself. And those were the only people who contributed input on who should win at all.

Basically, two people chose the winner.

If anyone want's to look back at old posts, I think in the short time I've been here I've contributed a bit more to the community then just posting a bunch of fricken pictures. I'm only kinda pissed because I thought my input on this deal could be very positive.

Say what ya want about Vicki, but she was the only person who made an attempt to get some information released about these awards and stirred up a bit of debate.

Oh well. For what it's worth, here's to ya Big Guy, you ran a pretty tight campaign.

[Vicki Richter]

Vicki- you have to be one of the most ego centric, unbearable transsexuals I have ever had the displeasure of meeting.

How dare you talk about me and what I talk about in private? It is a well known fact you fucked your best friend out of signing at the Evil Angel booth and you and have told me yourself that you cant keep a trannsexual friend or that you piss off your transsexual friends always.



As usual, your "well known fact" is false. I have many times explained this to Danielle, but it's about as untrue a rumor as I've heard. I know she felt that way initially but it's unfortunate if she still believes that.

Here is the real story:

During about Shemale Road Trip 9 Danielle and I discussed signing together for Evil Angel and asking Joey about it. I am not sure which one of us actually asked him, but yes we initially talked about doing it together.

I was later asked by the co-owner of EA to sign for them. Of course I said yes. Joey had nothing to do with it and wasn't involved. When they asked me, I didn't initially say anything to Danielle because I was waiting to have her tell me whether or not they asked her also. I didn't want to go throw it in her face and say, "Oh hey EA asked me to sign". She viewed that as me being sneaky or whatever and maybe she felt like I should have told them "both of us or nothing". I wasn't going to do that. I just bought a house and I needed the money. I told her this at the time as well.

So #1 - I had NOTHING to do with their selection process. NOTHING. I didn't petition Joey on the side. I didn't petition anyone else in EA on the side. I didn't ask to sign except for the time when Danielle and I asked together. I never said anything to "fuck" anyone out of anything.

#2 - When I was asked to sign, I didn't tell Danielle right away. That's true. I was more concerned for her feelings than anything else. Obviously there was going to be reckoning when I told her and she was going to get upset. It was absolutely something that we discussed and wanted to do together. The only thing I could have done differently was tell them no in which case they most likely would have asked Danielle I am sure.

If Danielle got selected instead of me, I would have been upset, but not at her. It wouldn't have been her choice and there would have been nothing she could have done to change it. I definitely wouldn't have asked her not to sign. I have all the emails between me and Tricia at EA to back up everything I've said here as well. Don't even go there.

As far as egocentric. I am not even egocentric. I am confident. I am opinionated. Unlike others I don't profess myself or make outrageous claims such as: the TS Queen of all Media, Hot such and such, Queen of all T's, The most downloaded TS on the web, one person even had the audacity to claim they were the "Jenna Jamison of TS porn", etc. I've never used home made descriptors. I really have a pretty docile ego compared to most of you.

On the friends thing you're probably right, but not for the reasons you think. It has nothing to do with me being a cunt to my friends, fucking them over, not caring, or doing "shady" things to hurt them. I bend over backwards at times for the few people I actually call friends. I think, as friends go, Joanna and I have done things to hurt each other. I'm obviously not going to go into it. However, she'll always be a friend to me though unless she chooses not to be. Danielle is a great friend and she is a bit more understanding of my eccentricities. Vo D'Bom is someone who I also view as a friend. We've never been super close, but if she needed a place to crash I'd be there for her. Unlike someone else here, I don't and have never directly used another transsexual for monetary gain. I don't look at any of my friends and see dollar signs. However, I do have tons of TS pictures on my site which, in theory, could be construed as my using people indirectly.

So anyway, the reason I am not a good friend is because I really don't make the effort most of the time. I don't answer my phone often. I don't return calls as often as I should. I sometimes don't call friends if I am in town to grab lunch or just stay in touch. I can't remember birthdays and the little things that friends should do for each other. It has nothing to do with fucking them over though.

Vicki

ps - I didn't actually make this picture thinking of you, but somehow now it seems appropriate.

[Bigguy]

BY the way BIG GUY is the winner of the contest- as decided by the other members of this board. Congratulations sweetie!
Thanks! :D I'll try to perform my duties as a member of the board to the best of my ability. :D

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Big Guy-
Please email me love so we can go over some details.

I forgot Vicki- I also run a slavery ring of poor transsexuals.
I own HungAngels.com, they all kiss my ass, and I am Queen of the Universe.

Your such a bitter queen and you don't even know it-

You know what hunny when you try do something positive for the girls, or for the industry, besides fucking without condoms, which is your claim to fame in the advancement of transsexuals in porn, then say something constructive. In the mean time- you are hereby tuned off.

And wont you be happy that HungAngels will continue to promote ALL of my events and parties and venues. I bet it tickles your pussy pink.


Im so jealous darling that I wasn't nominated for an award and my life sucks- DAMN IT! So because I am such a has been, I had to go create my own awards show, so I can nominate myself in every catergory-
including Best Ethnic Model (Black) and WIN THEM ALL!!!!

YES THAT WAS THE MASTER PLAN ALL ALONG.

Vicki STFU unless YOU are actually doing something constructive other than polishing your AVN award.

[Vicki Richter]

OK, this can most definately be viewed as "sour grapes" on my part, but Big Guy being picked by the members of this board? He got a shout-out from shemale junky and blckhaze, and a split vote from Wendy (between him and popperluv). Oh, and Neils Bohr put his word in. . .before nominating himself. And those were the only people who contributed input on who should win at all.

Basically, two people chose the winner.

If anyone want's to look back at old posts, I think in the short time I've been here I've contributed a bit more to the community then just posting a bunch of fricken pictures. I'm only kinda pissed because I thought my input on this deal could be very positive.

Say what ya want about Vicki, but she was the only person who made an attempt to get some information released about these awards and stirred up a bit of debate.

Oh well. For what it's worth, here's to ya Big Guy, you ran a pretty tight campaign.

Oh shut up and let them have their make believe contest. Give her time and Allanah will turn the TS world into a big drag homo scene yet. I love that, "Gays have their own, why can't we?" comment she made earlier. While some of us are trying to be part of mainstream porn and society, others will always want it to become this lame faggy little niche scene like the one that they came up from. Maybe they can do a lip sync contest to show who the performer of the year is.

[thanos]

F.U.B.A.R.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

LOL Vicki Richter

YOU ARE CLUELESS

As cluesless as those outfits you wear

And we will have the award show and it will be entertaining-

Yes some of us are doing mainstream work-

I just did two of the highest rated telivision shows in the UK
and had an article published in a mainstream UK magazine-

OOOps I forgot some of how are pondering how condomless sex will change the world and what tacky outfit to wear next.

[Vicki Richter]

Big Guy-
Please email me love so we can go over some details.



If it wasn't your award thing, why is Bigguy emailing you to go over it? Wouldn't he be emailing the "committee"? Who nominated you or anyone else? Just call it the "Allanah Awards" and end the charade. Make sure you put a huge picture of yourself all over the flyers.

ps did I hear "tacky outfit"? I could have sworn I did. I could have sworn it came from the queen of tacky.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/im001909_197.jpg

Of course I don't see girls wearing stuff like that in the clubs I goto but from what I've heard, we don't goto the same clubs anyway.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

LOL

Your CLUELESSNESS REMAINS

That is a creative creation, for a theme speciffic party, created by make up artitst who does which consists if tiny beaded flower apliques glued onto my body in difference sequences.
Its called a "costume"- almost art if you looked at it up close in person actually. Learn something will ya.

But what could I really expect from a person who wears a $5 dollar handkerchief top to the AVN awards show.

And I dont have to explain myself to you. Big Guy happens to be a friend as well.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

And thats right baby-
We dont hang out at the same bars because
I dont do truck stop bars-
I go to places where there actually is a nighlife
a place called Manhattan

Oh and this is me in my Dolce & Gabanna Gown @ The AVN Awards

Enjoy Vicki

[hondarobot]

It's probably in bad taste right now, but does anyone else love to watch a good girl fight?

I'm just saying :)

[Vicki Richter]

Actually, the amount of money I spent on the AVN award show = 0 I am proud to say. Hey I am all for people that aren't even nominated for anything going to award ceremonies all flashy like it means something. You definitely look amazing there no doubt. I can't find a thing wrong with your outfit. Stunning no less.

The only reason I didn't wear jeans was because of Danielle. I guess that goes to show how seriously I took the award show vs you. I mean come on who was I trying to impress? You? This is people getting awards for "sucking dick" not the oscars. LOL. <--- see if you can catch that dry subtle humor.

Lets not talk truck stop either Allanah. Did you even graduate high school?

I'm being nice so far. Just leave it be.

[blckhaze]

hondarobot, im with you. i got my popcorn and beer ready.

[Adam_Thompson]

YEAH!!!!!!!! I LOVE VICKI BTW ;)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Your as nice as a flaming case of herpes sweetheart-

AND FYI

for your information

YES I did graduate highschool
South Ridge Sr. High School- and I was in the top 10 % of my class
with a 3.6 GPA.

I then went to Internaltional FIne Arts College in Florida and got an AA
in Fashion Merchandising (the degree reads communications)
but did not pursue my studies because I started working at night clubs.


That question just shows how ignotant you really are-

In any case-

Extremely succesfull people in this world have both been college drop outs or C students- so what is your point?

And currently I am as well taking some business classes and I am learning French-

not all of us that came over on a boat darling are stupid

I looked nice for the awards show because I am not a slob and I take pride in my appearance and I like being over the top. Again witht he nominations-
LOL

Im jist so miffed I wasnt nominated and that gorgoeus, stunning Vicki Richter won. Life is so unfair.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Keep on posting sister- cause every post reveals just how bitter, misguided, jealous, and ignorant you are about so many things-

We ALL get to see the REAL you.

[Vicki Richter]

I'm actually getting kind of bored. I was bored of this last night. What can I say to your last comments? Congrats on your AA. I guess I should have suspected because you actually write well. I am guessing you were a dork in high school. I was too in my own special way. I actually am a big fan of your party success and your NYC notoriety. It's pretty healthy for the community in many ways. So props to you there...

Next topic:

I did kind of think that it was humorous for you to be spouting about class when you dress in a leopard spotted "barely there" dress for a beauty pageant... an event that I am sure the girls took very seriously. It feels to me like you don't know when to dress for what. You're a walking "hey look at me", "look at my tits", "I'm the star!". It would be shocking to have you >>not<< dressing like a whore for a special event where it's out of place. There was this woman I am guessing of about 40ish in the grocery store yesterday wearing 6" spike platforms with this skin tight black jumper and these diva glasses. <-- true story... Her boyfriend/husband was wearing something ridiculous also. My point here is that someone clearly didn't dress for the occasion. To a lesser extreme, you remind me of that. You wear goofy glitter drag outfits to your parties like you're Cher or something; you wear a tiny animal print dress to a beauty pageant you are hosting, and you dress to the nine's for a porno convention award show where you aren't even nominated for anything. It's like wearing a wedding dress to a wedding when you aren't the bride.

I genuinely don't think you give a shit about having an award or not. If I implied that I don't think it was intentional. I have my own suspicions as to why you don't do more porn, but like I said, I'm being nice and I won't go there.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Vicki, I dont do more porn because I don't have the time or am able to go to LA often as I spend most of time in places that I actually enjoy.

Right after the AVN I was supposed to fly to LA to shoot for Gia and was unable to because I had a last minute urgency. The time before when I tuned down 3 projects including a devils film secen and 2 others i can't recall because they could nto meet what I wanted. I don't settle unless I really have to.

I was supposed to shoot for Joanna recently but unfortunately I was in London and she was in the US at the time. I have an extremely busy schedule.

You are the queen of suspiscions and I have an idea of what you are trying to insinuate because you are that type of a person.

So let me just tell you know that if you think that I do not do more porn because I have health concerns, I wouls gladly show you my very recent HIV- negative test. You are just the type of person who would ne insidious enough to even considier that. The reason I do not shoot more porn is because I have not been abl e to fit it into my schedule and because hardly any scene production goes on in NYC.

You know what, I am going to stop arguing with you because you are indeed a very sad person. You have no friends, you try to tip everyone apart, and you go on and on with all of your conspirasy theories.

Good Luck in your own misery hun.

[SidChromeAU]

This whole fucking forum is basically about one thing: the endless promotion of Allanah Starr - 'Sticky: Allanah's latest party' (where you can go and meet hookers - and pay Allanah for the honour, whilst basking in her reflected glory); 'read all about me in <insert name of media format>', and so on, ad - bloody nauseum.
Frankly, I don't actually care that much - I just don't read those posts anymore. But don't try to deny it. Every time Allanah posts, it's either in order to promote herself or her interests. That's it. Then, irrespective of how bloody self-involved or idiotic she has been, a bunch of sycophants fall over themselves congratulating her (wtf?), or 'defending' her from those who may have dared to voice a contrary opinion. Vicki may not always be right (she's generally pretty close to the mark, though), but at least she has the courage of her convictions.
Allanah is, without doubt, a very attractive woman. So fucking what? Since when have they given Nobel Prizes for that? She is also relatively intelligent - by all appearances - but no moreso than many others here. Yet when she makes a pronouncement, it's like she's come up with the eleventh commandment. Few dare to refute or contradict her crackpot ideas. Fine, many of the girls her are looking towards SRS, but maybe some of you need to actually grow a set.
I am fully aware that this post is not going to be well received, and don't care. It's about time some here started voicing differing opinions.
Finally: Allanah - AIDS is real, Splash should have stood their ground, and the world actually exists far beyond the environs of NYC.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

LOL SID

you love to hate me love and that is ok-

You can be as bitter as you like about my successes in life but I am very proud of them so I post them-Having telivision networks and major publications actually devote time and articles to a transsexual is a great stride- it just so happened that some of those pieces have been me.

If you and Vicki are so unhappy on this board why do you remain here?
Why don't you start you own board?

SId- I never said AIDS wasnt real, I have questioned the hyposthesis-
Splash could NOT stand their "ground" because they were legally at fault and breaking the law, and I am here to stay.

Good Day.

By the way I almost just went to Sydney, but unfortunately had to come back from Bangkok early ;(.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

And by the way moron
I am well aware there is a futher world beyond NYC as I have travelled extensively and if I had my choice, I would live in Paris but my commitments do not allow me to.

SO there- shows how much you know about me.

[SidChromeAU]

Allanah: are you being being deliberately obtuse, or are you actually stupid? The whole crux of the argument about Splash was regarding their 'moral' right to exclude you. I'm not going to go over it yet again, but your whole complaint was merely that they had dared to exclude Queen Allanah.
I don't care whether or not you are successful - I just wish we all didn't have to be co-opted into your life. This board should be about more than just you. That's why I 'come' here - every now and then, something non-Allanah sneaks in (and I like following Vicki's posts in her struggle against your ever expanding Allanah-verse).
And so what - you've travelled somewhat. Big fucking deal. You are still narrow minded, and this board is still NY-centric. When even one of the moderators can admit it, it must be blindingly bloody obvious.

[d]

This whole fucking forum is basically about one thing: the endless promotion of Allanah Starr - 'Sticky: Allanah's latest party' (where you can go and meet hookers - and pay Allanah for the honour, whilst basking in her reflected glory); 'read all about me in <insert name of media format>', and so on, ad - bloody nauseum.



U madd doggie? at least she has events other than touring schedules to promote. this board is full of sour grape motherfuckers.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

SID then why do you come here is you despise me so much?

And this board is about me-

OF couse the fucking board is NYC Centric ASSHOLE the owner lives in NYC.

Furthermore, my deal with Splash wasnt because they didnt let queen Allanah in, it was because they were discrimanating against women and
tgs.

I wish I was Queen Allanah

ROYAL PROCLIMATION # 1

BANISH ALL THE ASSHOLES FROM THHIS BOARD WHO ARE BITTER AND JEALOUS-

[Vicki Richter]

Vicki, I dont do more porn because I don't have the time or am able to go to LA often as I spend most of time in places that I actually enjoy.

Right after the AVN I was supposed to fly to LA to shoot for Gia and was unable to because I had a last minute urgency. The time before when I tuned down 3 projects including a devils film secen and 2 others i can't recall because they could nto meet what I wanted. I don't settle unless I really have to.

I was supposed to shoot for Joanna recently but unfortunately I was in London and she was in the US at the time. I have an extremely busy schedule.

You are the queen of suspiscions and I have an idea of what you are trying to insinuate because you are that type of a person.

So let me just tell you know that if you think that I do not do more porn because I have health concerns, I wouls gladly show you my very recent HIV- negative test. You are just the type of person who would ne insidious enough to even considier that. The reason I do not shoot more porn is because I have not been abl e to fit it into my schedule and because hardly any scene production goes on in NYC.

You know what, I am going to stop arguing with you because you are indeed a very sad person. You have no friends, you try to tip everyone apart, and you go on and on with all of your conspirasy theories.

Good Luck in your own misery hun.

Actually, I thought you didn't do more porn because you were self conscious of your body and inability to photoshop the video. Nice putting words into my mouth on the health concern thing though.

[Vicki Richter]

SID then why do you come here is you despise me so much?

And this board is about me-

OF couse the fucking board is NYC Centric ASSHOLE the owner lives in NYC.

Furthermore, my deal with Splash wasnt because they didnt let queen Allanah in, it was because they were discrimanating against women and
tgs.

I wish I was Queen Allanah

ROYAL PROCLIMATION # 1

BANISH ALL THE ASSHOLES FROM THHIS BOARD WHO ARE BITTER AND JEALOUS-

Wow! This board is about you huh? I bring people here Allanah. Have I somehow been baited into helping you promote yourself? I always thought that this was NYCe's board and since I happen to like NYCe, and HIS environment I come here. If this board is about Allanah Starr, then you're right, I really don't belong here. Dumb bitch. Cut off your nose to spite your face. Fine by me.

You couldn't create an interesting topic if your life depended on it. Without me, this board goes back to "who has the biggest cock" pictures. You do nothing to make this board successful and you never have. You honestly think guys come here just to see Allanah's latest party idea?

- Vicki

ps - With your latest "Queen Allanah" proclaimation, you would have just banned yourself.

[GroobySteven]

Seems like Sid has a bee up his butt about something else and just wants to take it out. That's it Sid, let it go no matter how idiotic your postings sound.

I've seen loads of people have the ability to post what they want on this site, self-promotion by many of the models, promotion by websites, advertising for escorts travelling from city to city, etc. The fact is the only Allanah postings made sticky are ones for events in NYC, ones which HUNG ANGELS sponsors. It they wish to promote events that they sponsor or things in their interest then let them.
I remember Vicky bawling because HA decided to try a marketing campaign which didn't include her website in the banners, it's there site, it's up to them!
At least the forum is kept active by Alannah posting and if it is self-promotion then good for her, self-promotion by other entities might be more to your taste, I don't see any complaints when website owners such as myself, Wendy Williams, Tara Emory come on here and show off their latest photos - or answer a request for a type of photo with some of our own, to promote our products.

Let's keep this topic on what it's really about, some people are trying to create something for the industry (and yes of course it's self-promotion in the same way most awards shows are) and bring in a large cross-section of the industry. One little brat, who loves to cry is complaining about the process and how it will work, from what it seems like, is Allanah's involvement in it.
The first time I met Vicki she was a crossdresser in the Queen Mary, Frank and I were there after a hard days shoot in LA, just relaxing and I recognised her from some amateur photos on the internet and had a nice chat to her and arranged to do a shoot at a more convenient time. An hour later this drunken mess of tears and hair, followed us around the bar (when she wasn't on the ground because she couldn't stand). Bawling inches from my face; "Why won't you photograph me? I'm the most beautiful girl in the bar and you know it." I guess jealousy and hate have their roots early in life, in much the same way a bully often started by being bullied.
seanchai

[AllanahStarrNYC]

hunny i left a word out-

this board is not about me

and sweetie i can post many pictures of me here where i am not photo shoped- candid shots
such as in New! Magazine- that pic isnt touched up

u have some nerve

please that bitch has a problem with alcohol
she was drunk 15 minutes after she made her appearance at my party,
was falling drunk all over the place, and almost knocked down the photo shoot set while she tried to do a shoot

[Vicki Richter]

Seems like Sid has a bee up his butt about something else and just wants to take it out. That's it Sid, let it go no matter how idiotic your postings sound.

I've seen loads of people have the ability to post what they want on this site, self-promotion by many of the models, promotion by websites, advertising for escorts travelling from city to city, etc. The fact is the only Allanah postings made sticky are ones for events in NYC, ones which HUNG ANGELS sponsors. It they wish to promote events that they sponsor or things in their interest then let them.
I remember Vicky bawling because HA decided to try a marketing campaign which didn't include her website in the banners, it's there site, it's up to them!
At least the forum is kept active by Alannah posting and if it is self-promotion then good for her, self-promotion by other entities might be more to your taste, I don't see any complaints when website owners such as myself, Wendy Williams, Tara Emory come on here and show off their latest photos - or answer a request for a type of photo with some of our own, to promote our products.

Let's keep this topic on what it's really about, some people are trying to create something for the industry (and yes of course it's self-promotion in the same way most awards shows are) and bring in a large cross-section of the industry. One little brat, who loves to cry is complaining about the process and how it will work, from what it seems like, is Allanah's involvement in it.
The first time I met Vicki she was a crossdresser in the Queen Mary, Frank and I were there after a hard days shoot in LA, just relaxing and I recognised her from some amateur photos on the internet and had a nice chat to her and arranged to do a shoot at a more convenient time. An hour later this drunken mess of tears and hair, followed us around the bar (when she wasn't on the ground because she couldn't stand). Bawling inches from my face; "Why won't you photograph me? I'm the most beautiful girl in the bar and you know it." I guess jealousy and hate have their roots early in life, in much the same way a bully often started by being bullied.
seanchai

Hehe. That does sound like me. I don't remember crying but I am not saying I didn't. I am absolutely positive you were more sober than me at the time. That's a cute story. :)

I would say this though... My issue here has nothing to do with jealousy. It has to do with a facade that you are trying to procaim is a real awards show of some sort. If you do this with no backing from other industry insiders, what is to prevent anyone else from doing the same thing? Right now it's just another Grooby/Allanah thing as usual. Where's Sammy Mancini? Bob from Bob's TGirls? Joey? My argument is if you are going to do this, do it right. Don't make it some half baked contest with Internet voting. How can anyone take that seriously?

[Vicki Richter]

hunny i left a word out-

this board is not about me

and sweetie i can post many pictures of me here where i am not photo shoped- candid shots
such as in New! Magazine- that pic isnt touched up

u have some nerve

please that bitch has a problem with alcohol
she was drunk 15 minutes after she made her appearance at my party,
was falling drunk all over the place, and almost knocked down the photo shoot set while she tried to do a shoot

No I was drunk about 3 hours into your party. From 1AM - 2AM when they assisted me out I was pretty much gone. Maybe if I had been able to find something edible to eat in Korea town where you put me up I could have had something on my stomach. Picked Cow Tongue and Crows feet soup just aren't my thing. Drinking on an empty stomach will do that to a person. Plus the guys in NYC are just too damned hospitable. It's rude to turn a guy down when he offers you a drink right?

Oh first the board is about you then it's not... Hmmm.

[GroobySteven]

Vicky - we'll be giving the full details of how it's going to work in the next couple of days. It is NOT an internet voting process. There are more people involved than you know - because we have yet to announce it and make the overall plan public.
You jumped before you knew the facts.

There is nothing to stop another entity doing awards - anyone can do it, I run a seperate one on Shemale Yum for favourite models every year. One thing which will be happening, is that this will not be an award show to give to friends and family.
Sit back and wait until the facts are out before neersaying everything.
seanchai

[hondarobot]

Valid points to consider, as always.

I'd just like to throw out the old line about "every journey starts with that first step. . ."

. . .and then, for my own safety, I'm getting out of this thread for the time being.


Where the hell did all these broken dishes come from. . .?

:)

[Niels Bohr]

Thank goddness this is over and couldn't happen to a nicer guy Bigguy congrats

[Tara Emory]

No no Vicki and Allanah continue- I think you're on to something here.. Keep up the catifghting and bickering until the rivalry apporaches legendary proportions! Then appear in a movie together and watch as the sexual tension is so thick it can be cut with a spoon! It'll be a hit.

I'm kidding, of course. Well, maybe.. Actually once upon a time I was thinking of doing "She-cocko!" (or named something to that effect), essentially a parody of Chicago, and thought of myself in the Catherine Zeta Jones part and Vicki in the Renee Zellweger role, but it never got off the ground.

It's nice to be back, even if it is to comment from the side..

-Tara Emory

[hondarobot]

Hurray! Tara's back!

Good to see ya again!

:)

[Tara Emory]

Thanks hondarobot (I'm actually trying to picture that in my head.. some sort of uber anime transformer type things made out of parts of Civic and Accords...) its nice to be back.

I was serious about a shemale takeoff of Chicago.. I even had some of the musical numbers figured out "All That Jizz", and the version of the Cell Block Tango would being with "Oh god I'm coming!".. anyway.. tI came close pitching the idea to Vicki, but then sort of got the idea that she wouldn't be into it.

Of course, maybe it is a silly idea, but a silly idea with cute girls and hardcore sex, well, that all the better.

-Tara

[Tara Emory]

oops I can't spell, I meant to say "The Cell Block tango would BEGIN with the the chorus "Oh God I'm coming""..etc...

must learn to proofread these things better...

-Tara

[hondarobot]

Hehe, the Chicago porn sounds like a pretty cool concept. I wish I could channel the ghost of Bob Fosse and contribute something to it. I'll just drink and smoke at his level and hope for the best. Too bad I don't do speed.

Oh, and Hondarobot is taken from an actual robot named Asimo (or something like that) that Honda is currently building. It's pretty wild.

If I ever get lecherously wealthy, I plan on buying several Asimo's and harnesing them to a chariot to pull me around town.

:)

[Ecstatic]

Tara, that sounds like a blast! You in the Zeta-Jones role, Vicki in the Zellweger role, and Allanah in the Queen Latifah role: wild. (I can't remember the characters' names.) But someone somewhere must've done a XXX movie called "All that Jizz"--maybe not shemale, but surely XXX.

Honda, I trust you know that the name of Honda's robot is derived from Isaac Asimo(v)'s name?

[Vicki Richter]

Thanks hondarobot (I'm actually trying to picture that in my head.. some sort of uber anime transformer type things made out of parts of Civic and Accords...) its nice to be back.

I was serious about a shemale takeoff of Chicago.. I even had some of the musical numbers figured out "All That Jizz", and the version of the Cell Block Tango would being with "Oh god I'm coming!".. anyway.. tI came close pitching the idea to Vicki, but then sort of got the idea that she wouldn't be into it.

Of course, maybe it is a silly idea, but a silly idea with cute girls and hardcore sex, well, that all the better.

-Tara

I'd work with you Tara. I'd fuck you silly in your crazy outfits. I don't think you'd get me dressing up like bo-peep, but I definitely appreciate your uniqueness in the industry. You've got style girl. The money you must spend on sets and clothes is legendary. Huge props.

That said, I am sure if you put some kind of movie thing like this together, it would be pretty well done.

Vicki

[hondarobot]

Hey Ecstatic, thanks for the input on the robot name. Asimo=Asimov, the "I, Robot" guy. Not sure why I didn't figure that out before, but I'm a bit slow on figuring out the obvious many times. :?

Honestly, I really hope the Vicki/Tara "Chicago" porn gets made, or some project with those two girls. I'd definately want to see it!

[Ecstatic]

Asimov has gotten lots of props--some a bit skewed, no doubt--over the years for his contributions to robotics. It may have been fiction, but he laid down a lot of the basic concepts, from the three laws of robotics to the positronic brain. My favorite is from his novel The Naked Sun, about a murder on a world where people never come into physical contact with one another, instead communicating solely long distance via 3D holography. The novel dates from 1957, long before the Internet was even a gleam in DARPA's eyes, let alone the World Wide Web, virtual chat rooms, and forums.

Now I'm waiting on 3D, holo-deck programs starting avatars of Tara and Vicki and all...just imagine, not only seeing a vid of Tara and Vicki in Chicago, but playing a role yourself with 3D holographic (yet to your senses wholly real) Tara and Vicki. Hmm, the mind boggles.

[iluvshemales]

congrats, bigguy :D

[Felicia Katt]

when did Bigguy put down his camera long enough to campaign for the position??

meow

Felicia

[Tara Emory]

sure Vicki, I'd luv you to fuck me silly as well (grin)
don't worry the outfits wouldn't be a goofy as L'il Ho Peep.

I'm on holiday in the UK at the moment, so I'm not thinking too much about the project, but it is something I would like to do after I get some of my other video projects out of the way. I have two projects ("Les Shemales Insatiables" and a bad 50's sci fi featuring my "space cadet" outfit) in pre-production right now (going into full filming this summer). If both of them go very well, it will give me some more directing experience- enough to get a higher budget for something that could potentially have musical numbers (!).

I'll contact you Vicki when I get something I can send to you about the project (script- yes) storyboards, etc, if it does indeed get off the ground..


-Tara

pic enclosed- what you can expect in my "Tara in Space" project, along with some cheesy effects!

[Tara Emory]

What's your avatar about Estatic? Any why haven't we bumped into each other, being in Mass?

-Tara

[Ecstatic]

Good questions, Tara. About my avatar: those are Sekhmet and Bast, two cat-headed goddesses of ancient Kemet or Egypt (the word "alchemy" is said to derive from the ancient name of Egypt, just as "chemistry" is derived from alchemy). Sekhmet is lion-headed and Bast or Bastet, the supreme cat goddess, is cat-headed. (Felicia might enjoy this, meow.) They are dual goddesses, actually twin aspects of the Triple Goddess; Bast is the maiden, Sekhmet the crone, and Isis the mother (the Greek goddess Hecate combined the three aspects in one).

Bast is the Goddess of cats, the rising sun, the moon, truth, enlightenment, lesbians, sexuality, physical pleasures, fertility, bounty, birth, plenty, the household and protector of the home, civilization, creation, music, dance, the arts, hemp, and battler of serpents which attack the sun god. Bast also represents the Maiden aspect of the Triple Goddess. She was viewed as the beneficent side of the lioness-goddess Sekhmet.

Sekhmet represents the crone aspect of the Triple Goddess. She is the Goddess of sunset, destruction, death, rebirth and wisdom. She is also sometimes defined as a warrior or huntress goddess. The cycle of life and death was created when the primeval Goddess Sekhmet-Bast divided into two sisters, Sekhmet and Bast.

Re: your second question, I live in Marlboro, which puts me about 35 miles northwest of the city, and I don't get into the city very often, so that probably explains why we haven't bumped into each other. I should make the trip into Manray or Jacques, but unless I'm planning to meet someone I don't tend to go to bars or clubs on my own. Last fall you talked about a meet at Jillian's but that got put on hold as I recall. So our paths haven't crossed as yet. We really ought to do something about that.

Maybe when you get back from your UK visit we can meet up some time at Jacques, Manray, or Jillian's or whatever (doesn't have to be a hot night spot; it could be for a latte in the afternoon some day). Drop me a pm sometime; I'll gladly make the trip in to the city. Or here's an idea: if you ever need a photographer for a shoot, let me know; I am all set to go with a Nikon D70 digital with an 18-70 mm zoom Nikkor lens plus Nikon film camera and lenses. It would be fun. I've done one photoshoot with my friend Venus (Thai TG from NYC) and she's using some of the photos on her current Eros ad and her website, and I've posted some here.

Howzat?

[hondarobot]

That Chicago movie sounds soooo cool. Too bad you girls live on seperate sides of the country. A geographically central location might be just the ticket, like Chicago itself. . .or maybe, say, I don't know, Minneapolis or something.

Of course you'd need a good location, like a big nightclub or something that you could shoot in during the day. And having someone on hand with there own video equipment would be handy.

Let see: Central location, nightclub, video equipment. . .

Hmmm, there must be someone on these boards who could help out here. . .