****** *** on Craigslist?

[slinky]

If you saw an ad for a "famous" TS on Craigslist, would you:

- think it's a fake
- STFU and not say anything

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://images.craigslist.org/01010001020101040520070818d269ee0f16cef6cb1c0065a5 .jpg

possible that's really her

http://images.craigslist.org/010111010211010309200708180a4b8ce2f06d93da2f00ceca .jpg

again, a possibility

http://www.theangels.co.uk/images/miriam.jpg

highly doubtful, I'm betting it's a bait & switch

[BeardedOne]

If you saw an ad for a "famous" TS on Craigslist, would you:

- think it's a fake
- STFU and not say anything

Um...YES!

:P

[sam2982]

most likely a fake... usually the "famous" ones post on eros... CL is for broke ass providers lol

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

as a reference

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=21098
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=20329
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=19017
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=17974
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=17141

[RubyTS]

i use craigslist a lot... but have to deal often with people using my photos in other citiesn, and very often even here in nyc! I was in nj once and saw my photos on cl in La, and Long Island under different names and numbers. i always tell my clients to beware of fakes. The girls sure do love 2 use my pics

[BeardedOne]

The girls sure do love 2 use my pics

Well, I sure like to look at 'em. :D

I just can't get past the part where people think no one will notice when they meet face to face.

[flabbybody]

Ruby's real ads have a certain flair and class ( just like you Ruby).
I can spot a scam a mile a way.

and your fans usually know what area you're currently visiting.

[RubyTS]

Ruby's real ads have a certain flair and class ( just like you Ruby).
I can spot a scam a mile a way.

and your fans usually know what area you're currently visiting.

thank u, but u know i thought the same thing. Only problem with that is not everyone is so intelligent. Lots of guys DON'T READ, and i still very often get the asl question. Not EVERYONE follows the porn industry, and there are still lots of people who have no clue who i am. i just hope that they are not being set up for robbery scenario's and so forth. I've even called the police several times and threatened charges of identity theft against the posters.

[BeardedOne]

thank u, but u know i thought the same thing. Only problem with that is not everyone is so intelligent. Lots of guys DON'T READ, and i still very often get the asl question. Not EVERYONE follows the porn industry, and there are still lots of people who have no clue who i am. i just hope that they are not being set up for robbery scenario's and so forth. I've even called the police several times and threatened charges of identity theft against the posters.

*Sigh* I so agree with the 'intelligence' thought. When college graduates come up with classics like "How much is a forty-one cent stamp" (And countered by the fact that the USPS actually paid a hefty sum of money to a consulting firm to come up with an official answer to that question. :roll: ), you know that we are slummin' with the masses. I'm guessing that most will look at the pic, the phone number, and the rate and pass the rest off as body filler (Body is basic drivel, usualy not even real words, used in the advertising and printing industry to fill space in a sample piece just to show form).

My practice is to at least =try= to know who I am talking to when/if I reply to an ad. Some of the gurls (Ruby included) know that I tend to send out chatty-ass emails and PMs in an attempt to get to know them. To the end that I may 'date' a gurl, I may not know where it's been, but I sure as hell want to know who it's attached to before I stick it in my mouth. :shock:

Besides, I am just as chatty in person (References provided), and mystery dates may not be conducive to good conversation.

Hmm...'Identity Theft' via CL. Tenuous position there, but certainly subject for another thread. Certainly copyright infringement if you police your images well enough.

As to those that don't know who you are, most definitely their loss darlin'. :)


Edit:

Best reply to the classic a/s/l query: Modern, yes, yomamazazz. :wink:

[Ecstatic]

*Sigh* I so agree with the 'intelligence' thought. When college graduates come up with classics like "How much is a forty-one cent stamp" (And countered by the fact that the USPS actually paid a hefty sum of money to a consulting firm to come up with an official answer to that question. :roll: ), you know that we are slummin' with the masses.
Fifty-nine cents less than a dollar, innit? (Make 'em think a little.) I love the classic: 25 cents each, three for a dollar.

I've known several girls whose photos have often been stolen and used by scammers.

[dan_drade]

I have seen some famous TS girls posting on CL. And While I am sure that some of them are for real, I am quite sure that some of them are fakes too. On CL you never know what you will run into. It is free and anyone can post there, so just be sure that you call and talk to the girl first to verify who she is.

[justatransgirl]

Jessica and I use CL when we travel. And who knows what the future holds, but we stopped using it locally about a year ago because there too many problems. Skanky girls, scams, huge LE interest - in San Diego there was a n FBI sex crimes task force investigating CL last winter. Plus we got busted off a CL ad in Vegas last winter that cost several thousand to get dismissed.

There are good girls on CL, but they will ALSO have a paid ad on EROS or a presence on another major pay site, they will also have a review history on TER, and true professionals will have a WEB DOMAIN.

If they don't have at least two of the above it should be a red flag.

IF it isn't a LE sting!

Quality TS girls are easy to find, but you have to do your homework. You get spoiled here on HA because every girl I've seen active on here is a top professional. But CL is a different ball game and it's buyer beware.

Hugs,
TS Jamie

[dan_drade]

Jessica and I use CL when we travel. And who knows what the future holds, but we stopped using it locally about a year ago because there too many problems. Skanky girls, scams, huge LE interest - in San Diego there was a n FBI sex crimes task force investigating CL last winter. Plus we got busted off a CL ad in Vegas last winter that cost several thousand to get dismissed.

There are good girls on CL, but they will ALSO have a paid ad on EROS or a presence on another major pay site, they will also have a review history on TER, and true professionals will have a WEB DOMAIN.

If they don't have at least two of the above it should be a red flag.

IF it isn't a LE sting!

Quality TS girls are easy to find, but you have to do your homework. You get spoiled here on HA because every girl I've seen active on here is a top professional. But CL is a different ball game and it's buyer beware.

Hugs,
TS Jamie

Perfectly stated

[RubyTS]

i think it woulkd be hilarious to see allanah's photos posted on cl. that would be such an obvious fake. imagine $100 next to her name! lmfao that would be the day lol.

[andyuk]

hey ruby.
see your vids on youtube.
your outrageous but very funny to watch.

[RubyTS]

hey ruby.
see your vids on youtube.
your outrageous but very funny to watch.

lol thanx. i actually have a vid up about people using my pics on craigslist.

[tsntx]

hot girls use CL, and ONLY CL, not all of us want to have the paper trail that a "reputable" site carries... eros requires proof of id... some of us dont want to be tied to the industry... CL offers that... maybe 8 outta 10 CL girls arent as good as EROS girls but i can gurantee this 1 right here is better then any 10 youll find on eros w/in 300 miles of me if not more.

[Shining Star]

For along time the only place trannies, and for that matter GG escorts could advertise was in print media like Screw Magazine. Then teh Village Voice began offering cut rate advertising for escorts. Next came the Internet, with sites like NY (or whatever state)Exotics, and things took off. Screw like many other print media advertisers saw its revenue drop to the point that the magazine went bankrupt and now Al Goldstein sells bagels.

NY Exotics was soon over taken by Eros.com as site of choice by many trannies and other escorts, now Craigslist is taking over from Eros.

CL is free, though does not have the worldwide audience and the same marketing as Eros and the other paid Internet escort sites. On the other hand as someone else mentioned pay escort ad sites like Eros.com now require lots of vaild ID before posting ads, and not many girls/guys/trannies want their names/drivers license and such on record with an escort site, so many are moving over to CL.

Just for the record, not all of the ID requirements are Eros.com's or any of the other sites fault, rather Federal law requires them to verify all models are over the legal age. Eros and the other sites are going out of their way to make their lawyers happy in that they are running a legitimate business and not promoting prositution. Thus if any district attorney or federal LE agency serves them with papers asking for information on an advertiser, they will willingly hand such information over, and the advertiser is held liable for any costs Eros incurs. It is all in the contract Eros and other sites make advertisers sign. Many girls stopped using Eros when they started making all advertisers sign new contracts last year. Some girls also just don't care and gave all the information requested.

Don't know why people think CL advertisers are busted any more than say Eros or Exotics. Any good LE with a decent vice department knows all the advertising venues for prossies, so it can't be they just happen upon CL ads. It could be that CL reaches a wider audience and thus perhaps generates more complaints. Or simply many placing adverts on CL don't handle their business correctly and are busted in enough numbers that LE assumes it is easy low picking fruit.

[KiraHarden]

I use CL and agree with tsntx, I dont need the paper trail. I have no doubt that can hold my own with the majority of girls that work off a paysite like Eros. I have to add, that you can say "Sorry not interested", if the girl who opens, or comes to your door does not match the photos she posted. Its not that difficult.


www.youtube.com/kiraharden
www.myspace.com/kiraharden
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/kiraharden

[BeardedOne]

I have to add, that you can say "Sorry not interested", if the girl who opens, or comes to your door does not match the photos she posted. Its not that difficult.

Easy to say, but not so easy to play. There've been a few horror stories posted here about meetings gone bad. Granted, most of the time the 'victim' is dumb as shit and needs the lesson learned, but still...

In my case, I am as likely to know the manager and staff of the venue by name (And possibly the LE involved, depending on locale), so if things get shy I have no qualms with crying foul, but a lot of the potential/prospective clients are playing it close to the vest for reasons of privacy, family, and just plain low-level brain power.

Advice to the gents: While your little head may know the best road to the place you're going, try to listen to the GPS that your big head is providing.

If Nefertiti 'drives me home', that's cool. Hulk Hogan, not so cool. :shock:

[slinky]

Don't know why people think CL advertisers are busted any more than say Eros or Exotics. Any good LE with a decent vice department knows all the advertising venues for prossies, so it can't be they just happen upon CL ads. It could be that CL reaches a wider audience and thus perhaps generates more complaints. Or simply many placing adverts on CL don't handle their business correctly and are busted in enough numbers that LE assumes it is easy low picking fruit.

I think you mostly have it right: it attracts a wider audience - like kids. Do you know how many sex predators are on/have been nailed thru CL? It's like the VV - since it is so ubiquitous, there is a sense that "poeple" are being "exposed" to stuff. You don't get to Eros (or other sites) by mistake. You get there looking for ads for prostitutes.

[crayons]

i use craigslist a lot... but have to deal often with people using my photos in other citiesn, and very often even here in nyc! I was in nj once and saw my photos on cl in La, and Long Island under different names and numbers. i always tell my clients to beware of fakes. The girls sure do love 2 use my pics


... usually the "famous" ones post on eros... CL is for broke ass providers lol

:lol:

[BeardedOne]

I know some gurls that have posted on CL but who no longer do because of the shit that comes flying down from there.

I never, underline NEVER , shop at CL because I can't trust the postings there.

If the gurl is serious and doesn't want to attract the bottom-feeders, she won't even give CL a polite nod.

[Ecstatic]

Shopping for an escort on CL is like shopping for a Mercedes on eBay.

[BeardedOne]

Shopping for an escort on CL is like shopping for a Mercedes on eBay.

Better luck on eBay, I once found a sweet M100 there.

[tsluva]

i use craigslist a lot... but have to deal often with people using my photos in other citiesn, and very often even here in nyc! I was in nj once and saw my photos on cl in La, and Long Island under different names and numbers. i always tell my clients to beware of fakes. The girls sure do love 2 use my pics


would comparing Phone#s of Eros and Craiglist ads help ?

if the Craiglist phone numbers are different, then the fake lookout is on.





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[Ecstatic]

would comparing Phone#s of Eros and Craiglist ads help ?

if the Craiglist phone numbers are different, then the fake lookout is on.

.
Not necessarily. An escort could well use a different cell for CL than for Eros, thereby knowing which ad is being responded to by which number is ringing.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

My take on the situation-

I have had many posters use my pics on CL. But I think most people know me enough to flag them down. Funny thing is a lot of people from the area will end up calling my number and not the number on the ad
to ask if I am really there. I usually call the person posting but they never answer.


I don't use Craigslist. I did once becuase someone told me it was very profitable in another city. I asked my regular rate and not saw one visitor and got a zillion stupid calls. For me, it is a complete waste of time.

From the higher priced providers I know- all I have heard is that guys on there do not want to spend more than $100 or $150. I am not one of those girls who has different rates for different places- so it's not worth it to me.

To me it's really the buttom of the barrel- as far as clients are concered. And I would guess a lot of providers there are a mess as well.

I'm not sure what paper trail eros has that CL would not have. If anything, Eros ensures a lot more than CL because you need ID and a model release to sign up. They will put up the ad up and down as fast as you want.

Perosnally CL seems to be just a lot of fakes, time wasters, and a lot of police.

[Shining Star]

My take on the situation-

I have had many posters use my pics on CL. But I think most people know me enough to flag them down. Funny thing is a lot of people from the area will end up calling my number and not the number on the ad
to ask if I am really there. I usually call the person posting but they never answer.


I don't use Craigslist. I did once becuase someone told me it was very profitable in another city. I asked my regular rate and not saw one visitor and got a zillion stupid calls. For me, it is a complete waste of time.

From the higher priced providers I know- all I have heard is that guys on there do not want to spend more than $100 or $150. I am not one of those girls who has different rates for different places- so it's not worth it to me.

To me it's really the buttom of the barrel- as far as clients are concered. And I would guess a lot of providers there are a mess as well.

I'm not sure what paper trail eros has that CL would not have. If anything, Eros ensures a lot more than CL because you need ID and a model release to sign up. They will put up the ad up and down as fast as you want.

Perosnally CL seems to be just a lot of fakes, time wasters, and a lot of police.CL is basically an open forum, anyone can place adverts and only a small fraction (if any) are checked. Even then the only ads that CL removes are from complaints.

Eros OTHO vets every single advertiser including the signed models release. Don't think CL has a release and it is nothing like the one I've seen on Eros's site. Basically Eros is staying even though they don't "know" what you are doing, they know and if anyone serves them with papers for your information, they will sing like a bird. Afterwards they will send you a bill to cover any and all of their legal costs which you must pay.

Have heard of Eros calling advertisers and asking for a photo ID before their ad can to up/or they will take the advert down. Once they have the photo ID, their law department looks over the entire file and decides yes or no. One girl told me that even after she sent them her ID, a few weeks later Eros called her again asking for more ID or they were taking her advert down in 24 hours.

Now if you have photo ID in any other name than your original name, and it matches the information you give to Eros, then everything is fine. But don't think I'd be comfortable in today's climate giving an escort site my drivers license and other information under my real name. You don't know who is working at Eros and has access to those files. Sure you could sue if something goes wrong, but then you have to explain why you were advertising there in the first place.

Given today's legal climate it is probably only a matter of time before some state or local DA serves Eros or another website with papers regarding arrests in their area.

CL is a piece of piss compared to Eros, which is why so many workers are advertising there.