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peggygee
08-18-2007, 08:21 AM
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Brazil to pay for sex-change operations
AFP - Friday, August 17 10:29 pm

BRASILIA (AFP) - Brazil's public health care system will cover the cost of sex-
change operations, the government said after a federal court ruled the
procedure was a constitutional right.

To qualify for health care, the operation will first have to be approved by a
panel of doctors, after appropriate psychological and medical evaluations are
made of the patient, the Health Ministry said in a statement.

The ruling issued late Thursday by the Regional Federal Court of Porto Alegre,
in the south, sided with the Public Ministry's (ombudsman's office) argument
that sexual reassignment surgery was a constitutional right, along with
human dignity, equality, privacy and health care.

The government in the lawsuit maintained it lacked the funds to pay for sex-
change operations, but said it would not appeal the court ruling.

The court's chief judge Rober Raupp Rios said the ruling would prevent self
mutilation by people with sexual identity problems.

The Ministry of Health estimated the cost of sex-change operations in Porto
Alegre at about 1,000 dollars, and that as many as one Brazilian in 10,000
could be seeking one.

During 2000-2007, Brazil carried out 250 sex-change operations, the ministry
said.

Ecstatic
08-18-2007, 09:33 PM
urrmmm...doesn't that amount to "we'll pay for it so long as it's free"? ;)

BrendaQG
08-18-2007, 10:18 PM
The Ministry of Health estimated the cost of sex-change operations in Porto
Alegre at about 1,000 dollars, and that as many as one Brazilian in 10,000
could be seeking one.


$1000 :!:

:-? :-/ Just what do they think a sex change operation is? Just cutting off the penis? I'll bet that's what their talking about because that price is 10% of the cheapest price I have ever heard. This is not a thing about the "developing world" or something. If that price isn't a misprint then something is terribly wrong with this picture.

At that price I'll bet this is the "surgical" tool used.
http://www.magick-land.com/dutchfalconi/photo/guillo/g4.jpeg
And this is the procedure.
The Penis Guillotine (http://www.magick-land.com/dutchfalconi/penis.html)

:LOL:

sucka4chix
08-19-2007, 01:12 AM
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Brazil to pay for sex-change operations
AFP - Friday, August 17 10:29 pm

BRASILIA (AFP) - Brazil's public health care system will cover the cost of sex-
change operations, the government said after a federal court ruled the
procedure was a constitutional right.

To qualify for health care, the operation will first have to be approved by a
panel of doctors, after appropriate psychological and medical evaluations are
made of the patient, the Health Ministry said in a statement.

The ruling issued late Thursday by the Regional Federal Court of Porto Alegre,
in the south, sided with the Public Ministry's (ombudsman's office) argument
that sexual reassignment surgery was a constitutional right, along with
human dignity, equality, privacy and health care.

The government in the lawsuit maintained it lacked the funds to pay for sex-
change operations, but said it would not appeal the court ruling.

The court's chief judge Rober Raupp Rios said the ruling would prevent self
mutilation by people with sexual identity problems.

The Ministry of Health estimated the cost of sex-change operations in Porto
Alegre at about 1,000 dollars, and that as many as one Brazilian in 10,000
could be seeking one.

During 2000-2007, Brazil carried out 250 sex-change operations, the ministry
said.
Wow! A constitutional right!

andyuk
08-19-2007, 01:14 AM
england has been free for quite a while i believe.
mind there is a long waiting list

cockgobbler
08-19-2007, 02:50 AM
Here in Canada, sex-change operations used to be covered with our universal health care program, but I don't think they are anymore. Hell, tattoo removal was covered up until a few years ago.

scorpion
08-19-2007, 03:23 AM
Sweden is free...as some other contrys in europe. but its take along time to get the decision. And when you finaly get it you have to go to another country four the operatin

peggygee
08-19-2007, 04:18 AM
The Ministry of Health estimated the cost of sex-change operations in Porto
Alegre at about 1,000 dollars, and that as many as one Brazilian in 10,000
could be seeking one.


$1000 :!:

:-? :-/ Just what do they think a sex change operation is? Just cutting off the penis? I'll bet that's what their talking about because that price is 10% of the cheapest price I have ever heard. This is not a thing about the "developing world" or something. If that price isn't a misprint then something is terribly wrong with this picture.

At that price I'll bet this is the "surgical" tool used.
http://www.magick-land.com/dutchfalconi/photo/guillo/g4.jpeg
And this is the procedure.
The Penis Guillotine (http://www.magick-land.com/dutchfalconi/penis.html)

:LOL:

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There are 190 million people in Brazil. A country with a GDP (purchasing
power parity) of $1.655 trillion in 2006, and a per capita income of $3460.
It has a labor force of 96.34 million, and a unemployment rate of 9.6%.
With 31% of it's population living under poverty.

1.00 US Dollar = 2.02155 Brazilian Reais

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/br.html

And while $1000 may seem absurdly low for GRS, the fact of the
matter is that GRS is a relatively low cost procedure, and one which
has for the most part been perfected.

It should be pointed out that Thailand is the undisputed center for
gender reassignment surgery, but Brazil is a world leader in cosmetic
procedures per capita.

By way of illustration:

Dr. Preecha Tiewtranon, MD

http://www.pai.co.th/

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Male to Female (MtF)
Penile Skin Inversion / Vaginal Plasty $7,500

Sigmoid Colon/ Rectosigmoid Vaginoplasty/ $9,500

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/doctorsaran1.jpg

http://www.doctorsaran.com/


Surgical Procedure Doctor Saran Price

Sex Reassignment Surgery (SRS)

Male to Female $5,000

Sigmoid Colon $8,000

Tokai Clinic in Thailand (http://www.jujinclinic.com/sex_reassignment_surgery_price.htm)

Sex Reassignment Surgery, SRS, GRS, Sexchange US$ 3,000

Why Brazil for cosmetic surgery?

Brazil has long been at the centre of a thriving cosmetic surgery industry.
The South American country boasts the second largest number of
registered cosmetic surgeons (after the United States) anywhere in the
world in an industry that was estimated to have generated upwards of
£5.5 billion in 2005 alone.


Here are some cosmetic surgery costs for Brazil.

Price Table for Surgeries

http://www.brazilplastic.com/valores.htm

Plastic Surgery (USD) Minimum time to stay in Brazil
RHINOPLASTY
1.700 USD
15 DAYS

BREAST AUGMENTATION
2.900 USD
15 DAYS

LIPOSUCTION / LIPOSCULPTURE 3.200 USD
15 DAYS

TUMMY TUCK
3.200 USD
30 DAYS

FACELIFT (RHYTIDICTOMY)
3.200 USD
25 DAYS

BREAST REDUCTION
2.500 USD
20 DAYS

BETTER BUTTOCKS
3.500 USD
15 DAYS

CALF IMPLANTS
2.900 USD
15 DAYS

HAIR REPLACEMENT
2.900 USD
10 DAYS

EAR SURGERY (OTOPLASTY)
1.200 USD
15 DAYS

EYES LIDS PLASTIC SURGERY 1.200 USD 10 DAYS


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phxguy
08-19-2007, 04:25 AM
I'd rather Brazil pay TSs NOT to have a sex-change operation, otherwise my favorite TSs like Suzana Holmes and Bruna Taveres would go under the knife.

peggygee
08-19-2007, 05:59 AM
Related threads on Brazil:


What in God's name is it about Brazil? (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=23526&highlight=brazil)

Why is it that brazilian girls all have balls? (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=21656&highlight=brazil)

praetor
08-19-2007, 06:11 AM
NATURAL THE BRAZILIAN STATE PAY THE SEXUAL REASSIGNMENT SURGERY; CAUSE ALL THE MEDICAL TREATMENT THAT TRAVESTITE SUBMIT TO HORMONIZE IS EXCLUSIVE IN PUBLIC HOSPITAL.; BESIDES WAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. OUR COUTRY ARE ADVANCED IN THOSE QUESTIONS, IN DESPITE THE POOR PEOPLE CAN'T OBTAIN THE MEDICAL TREATMENT FOR OTHERS DISEASES.

rick_932
08-19-2007, 06:20 AM
thanks for the info peggygee, and thanks for all the links.

peggygee
08-19-2007, 08:02 AM
england has been free for quite a while i believe.
mind there is a long waiting list

National Health Service

http://www.nhs.uk/Pages/homepage.aspx

Gender Clinics

The Claybrook Centre
Charing Cross Hospital
Hammersmith
London
W6 8RF
Tel: 0208 846 1516

Gender Clinic
Dept of Psychiatry
St James University Hospital
Leeds
LS9 7TF

Gender Identity Clinic
179-183 Fulham Palace Road
London W6 8QZ
Tel 020 8483 2800
Tel 020 8483 2801



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http://www.grp.gov.uk/index.htm

The Gender Recognition Panel assesses applications from transsexual people for legal recognition of the gender in which they now live. The Panel was set up under the Gender Recognition Act 2004 and ensures that transsexual people can enjoy the rights and responsibilities appropriate to their acquired gender.

If a person is successful in their application to the Panel, they will be issued with a full Gender Recognition Certificate and that person's gender will become for all purposes their acquired gender.

Our website provides information for applicants, medical practitioners and chartered psychologists and other parties who may be interested in the gender recognition process.

peggygee
08-19-2007, 08:04 AM
thanks for the info peggygee, and thanks for all the links.

I'm glad to have been able to provide it.
I hope that it has been helpful to someone.

And you can call me Peggy. :wink:

BrendaQG
08-20-2007, 12:48 AM
I don't know...there has to be a catch somewhere. Even with that exchange rate SRS should cost half as much in Brazil as it would in the US if all other things were equal. That is why it sounds like something isn't equal, that they have to be cutting corners somewhere. That's all I'm saying.

If everything is on the up and up this is good news but I'm skeptical I can't help it.

dan_drade
08-20-2007, 05:10 AM
BREAST AUGMENTATION
2.900 USD
15 DAYS

SEXUAL REASSIGNMENT SURGERY
100.00 USD
21 DAYS

OPPS, DON'T WANT THIS ANYMORE
PRICELESS USD

peggygee
08-20-2007, 05:55 AM
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The Sistema Único de Saúde (SUS) is the health care system of Brazil,
which is government funded and managed. In 1988 the Brazilian constitution
created SUS and grants all Brazilian citizens the right to procure free
medical assistance from public as well as private providers reimbursed
by the government.

The private sector covers 32 million citizens (roughly 20 percent of the
Brazilian population) and consists of several hundred firms offering four
principal types of medical plans: private health insurance, prepaid group
practice, medical cooperatives, and company health plans.

The private nonprofit and for-profit health care sector delivers the bulk of
medical services, including government-subsidized inpatient care (that is,
private facilities owned 71 percent of hospital beds designated for
government-funded health care in 1993).

Private sources finance the other half of total health expenditures.
Perceptions of inefficiency in the government reimbursement schedule and
deterioration in service quality of the public health system spurred a rapid
growth in the private financing of health care during the 1980s, particularly in
well-developed cities of the Southeast.

http://www.sespa.pa.gov.br/Sus/sus.htm

peggygee
08-20-2007, 06:37 AM
I don't know...there has to be a catch somewhere. Even with that exchange rate SRS should cost half as much in Brazil as it would in the US if all other things were equal. That is why it sounds like something isn't equal, that they have to be cutting corners somewhere. That's all I'm saying.

If everything is on the up and up this is good news but I'm skeptical I can't help it.

Most of the items in our lives have been made in China, or another
third world country.

Technology support and jobs have been outsourced to India.

Why?

Lower wages, and cheaper costs of living.

It's all micro / macroeconomic magic. :shrug

BrendaQG
08-20-2007, 08:50 PM
Yeah but unlike Chineess catfood, and toys I can't take my vagina back to the factory. :-)