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The Guardian
08-16-2007, 03:35 PM
Have you dated or befriended a TS? What issues did you run into?
How did you deal with them? What was the cause of the downfall?
Or, what was it that made it all work?

62des
08-16-2007, 04:19 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if you were flamed like a madman by makin this thread but I COULD be wrong.

The Guardian
08-16-2007, 04:27 PM
Why? I think these are all legit questions :?

There are so many people seeking relationships here that it would be
nice to hear what works and what doesn't and why.

Don't you agree? :o

Ecstatic
08-16-2007, 05:29 PM
I have many ts friends, some pretty close. I see no issues there, they are friends like any other friends to me. While I have "dated" (mind out of the gutter; I'm not talking about an hour's sexual encounter, but going out with, to dinner or shopping or the like) ts escorts and have had some "friends with benefits" encounters, I have not become romantically or emotionally involved with any of them, so I can't respond directly to that question. These issues have, however, been discussed fairly recently in other threads, so I recommend doing a search for those replies.

TopHeavyCutie
08-16-2007, 06:23 PM
Ummmm, does actually being a TS and having relationship problems with yourself count?

andyuk
08-16-2007, 06:28 PM
i might be wrong here,but i think of a ts as a girl who was born with a penis,just like someone is born with i dont know 4 fingers or something.
so i would always treat them as a girl.if other people have problems ,thats thier look out

TomSelis
08-16-2007, 07:27 PM
Have you dated or befriended a TS? What issues did you run into?
How did you deal with them? What was the cause of the downfall?
Or, what was it that made it all work?

You're asking a very expansive question, and you'll probably not get a lot of serious input here. But I'll try to touch on the big issues.

Ever date or befriend a GG? It's pretty much just like that. You'll have some that aren't really about anything. What that means is into drugs and sugar daddies or literally not doing anything with themselves. I know a girl that has a HUGE trust fund and doesn't do much of anything but party. All she does is take classes, go to events and go clubbing.

You'll have some that are highly motivated and about something. What that means is going to school for something, sometimes in the fashion or beauty field, sometimes not.

As far as issues I'll just go with the ones you could run into that are different. Because many issues are the same as the ones you'd run into with a GG.

1) Hormones- If she's on hormones (some girls aren't), there can be some serious mood swings, like becoming very angry over something very small or very sad....crying over anything. Also things like getting very hot or cold suddenly. Or becoming very, very horny. Basically, it's a rollercoaster ride.

2) Gay friends or living a gay lifestyle- I know I'm going to catch flak for this one. But some girls are into the gay lifestyle in varying degrees. They will use slang that you may be unfamiliar with. Some will try not to use it around you, some won't care. TS's are tangentally a part of the LGB(T) community, but they also have their own community within. It's a strange relationship to an outsider. Sometimes gay guys can be kind of catty and WILL put salt in your game, that means they will say and do little things that will cause a rift in your relationship when you're not around. Because you know...misery....loves....company. There's also a kind of communal living thing that goes on sometimes. So if you are going over to hang out, there might be a gay guy or guys that are staying over for a week or two or three, sleeping on the floor, smoking your cigarettes, etc.
So if you're not into that, it could be a problem.

3) Society. They face all types of discrimination on a daily basis. This has been covered many times in many topics on here. That pressure can be transferred to you sometimes.

There are more, but I'm getting tired of typing. So, I'll let other people fill in the blanks.

Solutions:

1) Hormones- When a mood swing hits.....RUN! Get the fuck out of there.
2) Gay guys/ Gay Community- It really boils down to the type of friends she has. Some gay guys are really cool, fun to be around and giving to a fault. The ones I described before....well, you know what they say about people and the company they keep.
3) You have to hold your head up at all times when you're with a TG woman, because it can be a rough ride.

TrueBeauty TS
08-16-2007, 08:07 PM
Solutions:

1) Hormones- When a mood swing hits.....RUN! Get the fuck out of there.
2) Gay guys/ Gay Community- It really boils down to the type of friends she has. Some gay guys are really cool, fun to be around and giving to a fault. The ones I described before....well, you know what they say about people and the company they keep.
3) You have to hold your head up at all times when you're with a TG woman, because it can be a rough ride.


I generally liked what you had to say. Let me just add:

1. I know you said SOME girls, but I want reiterate that not all girls have mood swings. I am on hormones and I am pretty level headed all the time. If a girl does have mood swings, well... just think of it as the tranny PMS.

2. Some of that depends on how "in the life" they are. If a girl has a straight job or going to school, I don't think there's going to be a bunch of people hanging around the house 24/7. Although it's probably true that she will have a bit more than average gay friends and tranny friends. (Not that there's anything wrong with that!)

3. I like what you said. And if a girl knows that her man will stick up for her and not be ashamed of her, it can do WONDERS for the relationship. If she knows she can count on you, watch her bloom! :D


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ARMANIXXX
08-16-2007, 08:17 PM
i might be wrong here,but i think of a ts as a girl who was born with a penis,just like someone is born with i dont know 4 fingers or something.



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If this ain't signature material then I don't know what the hell is.

lol

TomSelis
08-16-2007, 08:25 PM
Solutions:

1) Hormones- When a mood swing hits.....RUN! Get the fuck out of there.
2) Gay guys/ Gay Community- It really boils down to the type of friends she has. Some gay guys are really cool, fun to be around and giving to a fault. The ones I described before....well, you know what they say about people and the company they keep.
3) You have to hold your head up at all times when you're with a TG woman, because it can be a rough ride.


I generally liked what you had to say. Let me just add:

1. I know you said SOME girls, but I want reiterate that not all girls have mood swings. I am on hormones and I am pretty level headed all the time. If a girl does have mood swings, well... just think of it as the tranny PMS.

2. Some of that depends on how "in the life" they are. If a girl has a straight job or going to school, I don't think there's going to be a bunch of people hanging around the house 24/7. Although it's probably true that she will have a bit more than average gay friends and tranny friends. (Not that there's anything wrong with that!)

3. I like what you said. And if a girl knows that her man will stick up for her and not be ashamed of her, it can do WONDERS for the relationship. If she knows she can count on you, watch her bloom! :D


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8)

I had to generalize a little there. The question was too big.

1) Yes, there are some girls that don't outwardly show mood swings and some that milk them and do crazy things and blame it on the hormones. But my point was that there can be some serious physical changes and I don't mean as in growing breasts.

2) That's what I said. And for some guys that can be a serious problem.

3) That's really the best rule of thumb.

The Guardian
08-16-2007, 08:41 PM
Thank you for your insight. This TS seems to only hang with other TS's.

She uses words like "Trade" when talking about men, things like that.

She also has the inate ability to always blame others (usually me :lol: ) for
all of her problems. There also seems to be an excessive amount of drama in her life. Family problems, problems with other T Girls.

I think she would rather argue than eat :lol: and can be extremely nasty
if you disagree with her.

More than anything, she seems to constantly get in her own way. Never fully completes projects. Starts a new one before the prior one is done and ends up right back where she started, then blames friends, family, or others for her stalemate.

I guess that this is not "Standard Operating Proceedure" for most T Girls, or am I wrong?

Thanks again for your input :D

TomSelis
08-16-2007, 09:17 PM
Thank you for your insight. This TS seems to only hang with other TS's.

She uses words like "Trade" when talking about men, things like that.

She also has the inate ability to always blame (usually me :lol: ) for
all of her problems. There also seems to be an excessive amount of drama in her life. Family problems, problems with other T Girls.

I think she would rather argue than eat :lol: and can be extremely nasty
if you disagree with her.

More than anything, she seems to constantly get in her own way. Never fully completes projects. Starts a new one before the prior one is done and ends up right back where she started, then blames friends, family, or others for her stalemate.

I guess that this is not "Standard Operating Proceedure" for most T Girls, or am I wrong?

Thanks again for your input :D

I could be wrong, but I'm sensing you're going somewhere with this or about someone in particular.

But in any case it sounds like someone you shouldn't be around simply because you're being abused.

manbearpig
08-16-2007, 09:20 PM
Solutions:

1) Hormones- When a mood swing hits.....RUN! Get the fuck out of there.


Run, bitch, run!

TrueBeauty TS
08-16-2007, 09:40 PM
Thank you for your insight. This TS seems to only hang with other TS's.

She uses words like "Trade" when talking about men, things like that.

She also has the inate ability to always blame (usually me :lol: ) for
all of her problems. There also seems to be an excessive amount of drama in her life. Family problems, problems with other T Girls.

I think she would rather argue than eat :lol: and can be extremely nasty
if you disagree with her.

More than anything, she seems to constantly get in her own way. Never fully completes projects. Starts a new one before the prior one is done and ends up right back where she started, then blames friends, family, or others for her stalemate.

I guess that this is not "Standard Operating Proceedure" for most T Girls, or am I wrong?

Thanks again for your input :D


Some of it is typical of women in general, TS or not. (And actually, some guys too, when it comes to not completing projects, etc.)


Problems could also arise in your situation depending on her age, mental maturity, education, and what she does for a living.


Or maybe she's just a bitch? I don't know. :?



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andyuk
08-16-2007, 09:41 PM
i might be wrong here,but i think of a ts as a girl who was born with a penis,just like someone is born with i dont know 4 fingers or something.



__________________________________________________ ______________________


guess i"m wrong then,lol
LOL

LOL
LOL




If this ain't signature material then I don't know what the hell is.

lol

peggygee
08-16-2007, 11:45 PM
Have you dated or befriended a TS? What issues did you run into?
How did you deal with them? What was the cause of the downfall?
Or, what was it that made it all work?

You're asking a very expansive question, and you'll probably not get a lot of serious input here. But I'll try to touch on the big issues.

Ever date or befriend a GG? It's pretty much just like that. You'll have some that aren't really about anything. What that means is into drugs and sugar daddies or literally not doing anything with themselves. I know a girl that has a HUGE trust fund and doesn't do much of anything but party. All she does is take classes, go to events and go clubbing.

You'll have some that are highly motivated and about something. What that means is going to school for something, sometimes in the fashion or beauty field, sometimes not.

As far as issues I'll just go with the ones you could run into that are different. Because many issues are the same as the ones you'd run into with a GG.

1) Hormones- If she's on hormones (some girls aren't), there can be some serious mood swings, like becoming very angry over something very small or very sad....crying over anything. Also things like getting very hot or cold suddenly. Or becoming very, very horny. Basically, it's a rollercoaster ride.

2) Gay friends or living a gay lifestyle- I know I'm going to catch flak for this one. But some girls are into the gay lifestyle in varying degrees. They will use slang that you may be unfamiliar with. Some will try not to use it around you, some won't care. TS's are tangentally a part of the LGB(T) community, but they also have their own community within. It's a strange relationship to an outsider. Sometimes gay guys can be kind of catty and WILL put salt in your game, that means they will say and do little things that will cause a rift in your relationship when you're not around. Because you know...misery....loves....company. There's also a kind of communal living thing that goes on sometimes. So if you are going over to hang out, there might be a gay guy or guys that are staying over for a week or two or three, sleeping on the floor, smoking your cigarettes, etc.
So if you're not into that, it could be a problem.

3) Society. They face all types of discrimination on a daily basis. This has been covered many times in many topics on here. That pressure can be transferred to you sometimes.

There are more, but I'm getting tired of typing. So, I'll let other people fill in the blanks.

Solutions:

1) Hormones- When a mood swing hits.....RUN! Get the fuck out of there.
2) Gay guys/ Gay Community- It really boils down to the type of friends she has. Some gay guys are really cool, fun to be around and giving to a fault. The ones I described before....well, you know what they say about people and the company they keep.
3) You have to hold your head up at all times when you're with a TG woman, because it can be a rough ride.

Tom, the statements that you have made may apply to the young t-girls,
or even some young genetic females, but as you get older those types
of behavior tend to occur alot less.

If a transwoman is having all sorts of hormonal mood swings, then she
may want to get to an endocronologist and have her levels looked at,
tweaked, and / or stop doing the DIY thing.

Some young girls when they are first starting out will be unsure of the
correct dosages to be taken, and will take far more than they need
in the belief that more will get them to their goal quicker, and what
actually happens is the physical and emotional problems that you have
described.

On the vocational and career issues that you mention, many young girls,
no mattter what their gender identity may be experiencing problems.
These problems and questions as to where she is going in life and what
she wants out of life tend to get sorted out as they mature.

Finally, on your point about society and the type of people of people that
she associates with. Some transwomen are very entrenched in 'the life'.
Some live for the balls, the parties, 'the trade', and the whole 'tranny
lifestyle'.

Others want to assimilate, and attempt to live a fairly mainstream life. If
they can pass, have a marketable skill, then they are very likely to be
found in the 9 - 5 world. By the by, all transwomen don't work in
stereotypical occupations like fashion, beauty, hairdressing, the sex
trade, etc, not that there is anything wrong with those lines of work.

Bottom line, there are all types of transwomen, engaged in all types of
endeavours.

Seek and ye shall find. :shrug

andyuk
08-16-2007, 11:52 PM
would it not depend on the person your dating as well?the only ts i have spoke to i see as a female,so thats how i would treat her.
but i guess not every one is the same.

The Guardian
08-16-2007, 11:59 PM
I'm not trying to point out any one specific just looking for feedback.

I appreciate the fact that it has all been constructive :D

This is a different world to most. I know that I am sexually evolved and that in itself can be an issue.

There are some of us that you can not tag. Being able to enjoy a sexual experience far beyond the norm is not a bad thing.

There is a unique trend taking place that is quite subtle. As we move forward as humans, sexuality will become much more homogenous.

Some of us are already there.

Please continue.................... :arrow:

TrueBeauty TS
08-17-2007, 12:01 AM
Problems could also arise in your situation depending on her age, mental maturity, education, and what she does for a living.

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Girl, you are a genius! :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps



LOL


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andyuk
08-17-2007, 12:11 AM
just approach it with a open mind,be honest with each other.
they are the 2 golden rules in any relationship for me

dan_yearsgone83
08-17-2007, 12:13 AM
Honestly, dating a TS was easier than dating a bipolar girl, in my experience.

I'm not sure how different it would've been if she had asserted on topping or something that I wasn't comfortable with, but instead the sexual chemistry between us was ideal and we had a great time dating each other.

However, I did notice that she basically kept our time together separate from time spent with her friends/going to (gay) clubs, so that didn't help things as time passed, even though it seemed better (and easier) initially.

TomSelis
08-17-2007, 12:37 AM
Tom, the statements that you have made may apply to the young t-girls,
or even some young genetic females, but as you get older those types
of behavior tend to occur alot less.

If a transwoman is having all sorts of hormonal mood swings, then she
may want to get to an endocronologist and have her levels looked at,
tweaked, and / or stop doing the DIY thing.

Some young girls when they are first starting out will be unsure of the
correct dosages to be taken, and will take far more than they need
in the belief that more will get them to their goal quicker, and what
actually happens is the physical and emotional problems that you have
described.

On the vocational and career issues that you mention, many young girls,
no mattter what their gender identity may be experiencing problems.
These problems and questions as to where she is going in life and what
she wants out of life tend to get sorted out as they mature.

Finally, on your point about society and the type of people of people that
she associates with. Some transwomen are very entrenched in 'the life'.
Some live for the balls, the parties, 'the trade', and the whole 'tranny
lifestyle'.

Others want to assimilate, and attempt to live a fairly mainstream life. If
they can pass, have a marketable skill, then they are very likely to be
found in the 9 - 5 world. By the by, all transwomen don't work in
stereotypical occupations like fashion, beauty, hairdressing, the sex
trade, etc, not that there is anything wrong with those lines of work.

Bottom line, there are all types of transwomen, engaged in all types of
endeavours.

Seek and ye shall find. :shrug

....umm, thanks Pegs. I think he was asking about the problems he could encounter. Or at least, that's what I got from his question.

Thanks for agreeing with me, good info.

mbf
08-17-2007, 12:55 AM
Or maybe she's just a bitch? I don't know. :?



.

bitches need some lovin too!!!

8)

The Guardian
08-17-2007, 09:39 AM
Thanks all :)