A question Ladies?

[MrsKellyPierce]

How would you rather a guy treat you that in all honesty is just looking for their first time or sex.

Do you want them to cut the bullshit and just be honest with you. I personally like this approach more and respect them more for it.

OR

Do you like them to play the "game" of they are looking for more and that you are so beautiful yadda yadda should coulda woulda stuff. I think you know what I am talking about! I think this is a big part of why girls get ATTITUDE with some men.

I was just thinking of this. I get messaged a ton online and have been able to read through the bullshit, and I usually stop the guy in midsentence cause it's a bit boring!! And you know they are lying. I think it's much more respectful if you are just blunt about it. It's just a waste of time, and leaves the girl that thinks she found the perfect guy HURT and BITTER. Then it leaves you wondering why so many girls are mean, bitchy, and jaded to you men.


P.S. I would of created a POLL but the Poll system isn't working lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

wow no responses

[Luna555]

Id rather have them be upfront....but then if they were I would tell them that they would have to pay...so I guess some guys know this so they play a game and try to have the girl think its real to have sex with them for free...

Actually I am glad that I had those experiences...because no matter what a guy says I don't believe them...cause i automatically assume they are telling lies...If they are not then I guess its my loss but I rather doubt then get high hopes.

[rvince]

What kind of answers did you expect?

Guys saying "I'm not this kind of 'I-just-want-to-cum-on-your-face-and-leave-so-I-don't-have-to-paid -you-a-restaurant guy' " ?

Or girls saying "Yeah, you're 110% right, welcome to reality?"

:-)

[MrsKellyPierce]

Id rather have them be upfront....but then if they were I would tell them that they would have to pay...so I guess some guys know this so they play a game and try to have the girl think its real to have sex with them for free...

Actually I am glad that I had those experiences...because no matter what a guy says I don't believe them...cause i automatically assume they are telling lies...If they are not then I guess its my loss but I rather doubt then get high hopes. Smart girl!

[MrsKellyPierce]

What kind of answers did you expect?

Guys saying "I'm not this kind of 'I-just-want-to-cum-on-your-face-and-leave-so-I-don't-have-to-paid -you-a-restaurant guy' " ?

Or girls saying "Yeah, you're 110% right, welcome to reality?"

:-) Well it always makes me laugh when guys are like whats wrong with that girl. Why does she have so much attitude towards me, this is why lol

[Luna555]

Well it always makes me laugh when guys are like whats wrong with that girl. Why does she have so much attitude towards me, this is why lol

Lol Yeah it makes me laugh too...it seems to be a never ending cycle... :shrug :shrug

[MrsKellyPierce]

Well it always makes me laugh when guys are like whats wrong with that girl. Why does she have so much attitude towards me, this is why lol

Lol Yeah it makes me laugh too...it seems to be a never ending cycle... :shrug :shrug Doesn't it? The conversations always seem to go the same way. It's like you are a mind reader or lol text reader.

[TJ347]

no matter what a guy says I don't believe them...cause i automatically assume they are telling lies...If they are not then I guess its my loss but I rather doubt then get high hopes.

So at the end of the day, where does that leave you? Jaded and bitter, getting only more so with each passing day I'd imagine. It's one thing for a thirty year old TS to be jaded to the point of no return, but for someone so young as you to possibly be at that point is just sad.

Anyway, the solution is very simple in my mind... Don't have sex with the guy for at least six months. If he's not in it for the long haul, believe you me, he'll be out of there way before then. Just an idea...

[Luna555]

no matter what a guy says I don't believe them...cause i automatically assume they are telling lies...If they are not then I guess its my loss but I rather doubt then get high hopes.

So at the end of the day, where does that leave you? Jaded and bitter, getting only more so with each passing day I'd imagine. It's one thing for a thirty year old TS to be jaded to the point of no return, but for someone so young as you to possibly be at that point is just sad.

Anyway, the solution is very simple in my mind... Don't have sex with the guy for at least six months. If he's not in it for the long haul, believe you me, he'll be out of there way before then. Just an idea...

...No dating for me at an intimate level right now...I just started escorting and want to focus on that...

[peggygee]

no matter what a guy says I don't believe them...cause i automatically assume they are telling lies...If they are not then I guess its my loss but I rather doubt then get high hopes.

So at the end of the day, where does that leave you? Jaded and bitter, getting only more so with each passing day I'd imagine. It's one thing for a thirty year old TS to be jaded to the point of no return, but for someone so young as you to possibly be at that point is just sad.

Anyway, the solution is very simple in my mind... Don't have sex with the guy for at least six months. If he's not in it for the long haul, believe you me, he'll be out of there way before then. Just an idea...


Being middle-aged, I've heard pretty much all the lines, as such I have a
finely tuned bull shit meter.

But even so, I wouldn't say that I'm jaded, I'd say that I'm more of a
realist, if you're willing to give it away, there will be someone who is
eager to take it.

At this stage of my life, I'm more into LTRs, I'm not one for quickies
or casual sex, don't escort, etc. Which has me protecting my mind, body,
and soul from use and abuse from all that are unworthy.

So vapid flattery from people online or in the real world, a glance across
a room, or catching the eye of a stranger as I walk down the street could
conceivably lead to a lifetime relationship, it assuredly will not lead to sex
by the end of the day, week, or even the month.

For that to occur, it will take us getting to know each other very well,
developing trust, being friends, then perhaps lovers and not the other
way around.

And if a person isn't willing or able to wait for sexual and emotional
intimacy, then they are not the person for me.

Bottom line, as I have oft-times stated, "it would be easier for a camel
to get through the eye of a needle, than a unworthy person to get
between my legs, or into my heart.".

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/camelneedletwerk.jpg

[TJ347]

Peggy, I completely understand what you're saying regarding being about LTRs as opposed to casual sex, as I've been moving toward that direction these last few months or so. Not to confuse the issue, but I've previously acknowledged using the services of escorts on a number of occasions, but for the life of me could never understand quite how a person could be an escort. Now I find myself wondering how I could have been a "client"...

Some people say that they can separate their emotions from what they do with their bodies, but recently I've begun to doubt such a thing is really possible. After doing a good deal of thinking about some of the things in my life, I had to admit that I never really had separated those two things, but only convinced myself I had. Ultimately, we only have one body, so if it's our body in bed with someone who we've paid or who's paid us for our time, what other body are our emotions in exactly?

To avoid getting overly philosophical, I'll wrap up by saying that I'd like to see how people who separate these components of their being turn out down the line. I just don't see how it's possible in the long run to wind up in a situation that's psychologically healthy, whether you're a provider or a "client". And yes, I know this thread wasn't about that, but this was on my mind, so...

[Trans_Lover]

well if the girl is an "escort" A.K.A. hooker, then its obvious he wants to fuck

[peggygee]

... but for the life of me could never understand quite how a person could be an escort. Now I find myself wondering how I could have been a "client"...

..

The client is the flip side of the same coin.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/euroneda.gif

The yin to the yang.

One can not exist without the other.

[62des]

no matter what a guy says I don't believe them...cause i automatically assume they are telling lies...If they are not then I guess its my loss but I rather doubt then get high hopes.

So at the end of the day, where does that leave you? Jaded and bitter, getting only more so with each passing day I'd imagine. It's one thing for a thirty year old TS to be jaded to the point of no return, but for someone so young as you to possibly be at that point is just sad.

Anyway, the solution is very simple in my mind... Don't have sex with the guy for at least six months. If he's not in it for the long haul, believe you me, he'll be out of there way before then. Just an idea...


Being middle-aged, I've heard pretty much all the lines, as such I have a
finely tuned bull shit meter.

But even so, I wouldn't say that I'm jaded, I'd say that I'm more of a
realist, if you're willing to give it away, there will be someone who is
eager to take it.

At this stage of my life, I'm more into LTRs, I'm not one for quickies
or casual sex, don't escort, etc. Which has me protecting my mind, body,
and soul from use and abuse from all that are unworthy.

So vapid flattery from people online or in the real world, a glance across
a room, or catching the eye of a stranger as I walk down the street could
conceivably lead to a lifetime relationship, it assuredly will not lead to sex
by the end of the day, week, or even the month.

For that to occur, it will take us getting to know each other very well,
developing trust, being friends, then perhaps lovers and not the other
way around.

And if a person isn't willing or able to wait for sexual and emotional
intimacy, then they are not the person for me.

Bottom line, as I have oft-times stated, "it would be easier for a camel
to get through the eye of a needle, than a unworthy person to get
between my legs, or into my heart.".

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/camelneedletwerk.jpg

Wow, that's some deep shit. Although I like having sex, A LOT, I'd rather it be somebody that I loved. I'd be willing to wait for sex, only if she's not a nice, passive type woman that I KNOW is not the cheating type, and doesn't nag all day and everything. For me, if a woman is really sexy, I ain't gonna lie, I WANT TO FUCK HER. BUT, when we go out on a date and she has a personality that outshines her looks, my urge for sex goes down and my tolerance to wait goes up. Bottom line, if you're a hooker, I'm not gonna look at you wanting to know you better as a person, because i'd want to fuck because that's what you do.

[tsntx]

[quote=peggygee]

Wow, that's some deep shit. Although I like having sex, A LOT, I'd rather it be somebody that I loved. I'd be willing to wait for sex, only if she's not a nice, passive type woman that I KNOW is not the cheating type, and doesn't nag all day and everything.

says the guy who said transwomen would always be a fantasy.... :roll:

[62des]

[quote=peggygee]

Wow, that's some deep shit. Although I like having sex, A LOT, I'd rather it be somebody that I loved. I'd be willing to wait for sex, only if she's not a nice, passive type woman that I KNOW is not the cheating type, and doesn't nag all day and everything.

says the guy who said transwomen would always be a fantasy.... :roll:

I was referring to GG's dopehead. I never said TS awill always be a fantasy, I may one day have sex with one just for the heck of it. But I ain't desperate to pay all that shit for a bad fuck.

[peggygee]

Wow, that's some deep shit. Although I like having sex, A LOT, I'd rather it be somebody that I loved.



As you get older, you get deeper.
Get really old, and you get six feet deep. :shock:

And trust me, I like sex a HELLA - LOT too,
but I can't seperate sex from love, at one
point in time I could, now I can't.

[peggygee]

To avoid getting overly philosophical, I'll wrap up by saying that I'd like to see how people who separate these components of their being turn out down the line. I just don't see how it's possible in the long run to wind up in a situation that's psychologically healthy, whether you're a provider or a "client". And yes, I know this thread wasn't about that, but this was on my mind, so...

I agre that could be a concern for both the provider and the client.

They both can become 'psychologically conditioned' to have emotionaless
sex. They may have associated the act of sex to be one that is devoid
of love, and it can become one whose sole purpose is seen as a physical
release.

It can be likened to 'porn creep' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porn_creep), which describes a condition in which a person is unable to
engage in any form of sexual activity without the presence of pornographic stimulus.

Then too escorts often are exposed to some of the harsher aspects of
society. In an effort to protect their psyche they may erect psychological
barriers to protect themselves, this may permanently jade them.

Think of of a police officer, or someone who has worked in the medical
field, and has seen a lot of tragedy in life, there could be a psychological
effect in the long run as you have alluded to.

[tsntx]

[quote=peggygee]

Wow, that's some deep shit. Although I like having sex, A LOT, I'd rather it be somebody that I loved. I'd be willing to wait for sex, only if she's not a nice, passive type woman that I KNOW is not the cheating type, and doesn't nag all day and everything.

says the guy who said transwomen would always be a fantasy.... :roll:

I was referring to GG's dopehead. I never said TS awill always be a fantasy, I may one day have sex with one just for the heck of it. But I ain't desperate to pay all that shit for a bad fuck.

well of what you were referring to idiot... i was talking about DATING not fucking moron.

[andyuk]

maybe i should post my response,as a guy .
i had never ever thought about having a relationship with a ts or anything.
then i did see one programe called something about miriam,and i have to admit she was stunning.and you can believe me or not,but i"m really not into one night stands or anything like that.in fact i"m not into having sex with someone till i at least get to know them really well.
i guess many do bullshit as do woman.
but to answear the question,i for one am into relationships and not one night stands.

[62des]

I'm not really a one-night-stand type of guy, I'd rather keep that person as a sex partner. I know, kinda shallow.