Why do people think trassexuals are just sex material???

[izZyLicious]

I've been into internet surfing since I was 16 or for almost two years and joined some site for transsexuals coz' I'm trying to find some help or guide in being transsexual, now I'm 18 and it really bothers that some guys would just mail me or send message asking for some sex eyeball!! it sucks!!! I reall noticed that even before... Oh My!! :?

[nycguy2]

WOW! So hostile.

[62des]

No offense to anyone but, when you see 99% of the trannies here escorting and everything, its damn near impossible to think otherwise than sex objects so if you're having sex a lot, don't expect for people to treat you otherwise. To some people its nothing more than a fantasy thing too. We men think women are sex objects if they have sex all the time. Its hard for a guy to be attracted to a person's brain when you don't know them and all you know is that the sex is great. Its up to you to prove otherwise.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

trannys are only good for one thing, make that 2. sucking my dick and letting me fuck them. if you are looking for help go elsewhere. 99% of HA angels are hookers and the men are chasers and johns. get real :?
never trust a tranny period fuck em and forget em :)

Pay no attention to the near dead semen of Tfan aka TS Tempted

here's the deal

There are a ton of us normal guys out there that would love to get to know you. Unfortunately you've been bombarded by the closet dwellers whose wives are out shopping for the strongest vibrating device because hubby can no longer get the job done.

You just have to be patient and understand that talking to boys you think are men online is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. Get out there and meet people face to face OFFLINE that will see you and appreciate you for you......................




No offense to anyone but, when you see 99% of the trannies here escorting and everything, its damn near impossible to think otherwise than sex objects so if you're having sex a lot, don't expect for people to treat you otherwise. To some people its nothing more than a fantasy thing too. We men think women are sex objects if they have sex all the time. Its hard for a guy to be attracted to a person's brain when you don't know them and all you know is that the sex is great. Its up to you to prove otherwise.

I used to think like that. Up until recently I had this idea in the back of my head that most of the partygoing women were simply hoes doing the 'pay my rent' pickup bar thing. I have to tell you I was wrong. I've met a few women as of late that only come out to socialize and actually are decent people. At least to me, but then I don't give off the "I'm looking at you like a sex object" vibe.
(Note: Shaddup Jen)
You'd be amazed how many women on this board live normal day to days like everyone else.

[Nooksack]

I'm going to agree with 62des, here. The reason that transsexual women are so often seen as sexual objects is that because the majority of the time, our only interaction with them is in a sexual sense. It's not like I run into a transsexual business woman, banker, lawyer or other professional. If you're bing shown that one type of person is a professional escort, then it doesn't matter who you are, you're going to start seeing that entire group of people as that way. I mean shit... most people see a big-breasted, platinum-blonde woman and the first thing that comes to mind for so many of us is SLUT! And after being shown Pamela Lee, Anna Nicole and a bevy of other big-tittied blonde bimbos in sex scenes and porno movies, advertising in magazines, it's hard to shake that concept.

[KiraHarden]

Well its hard to date and get to know a guy, if the guys are too concerened with what people will think of them in public let alone bringing home a gurl to meet the family. I think its starts with the men who say they love TS to be proud to date us and not just behind closed doors.
Yeah porn has something to do with it, but GG do porn and escort as well... I dont think many guys have the balls to ask a GG up front to see their pussy... VS hey baby how big is your Cock. Ask a girl out on a date first, talk, get to know me....
Kira


www.myspace.com/kiraharden
www.youtube.com/kiraharden
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/kiraharden

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I consider everybody, "just sex material"! I'll leave it at that.

[whatsupwithat]

There are a ton of us normal guys out there that would love to get to know you. Unfortunately you've been bombarded by the closet dwellers whose wives are out shopping for the strongest vibrating device because hubby can no longer get the job done.

You just have to be patient and understand that talking to boys you think are men online is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. Get out there and meet people face to face OFFLINE that will see you and appreciate you for you......................



[/b]

:claps

I 100% second this.

There are great guys out there who are looking for more than just sex, who want a relationship, intimacy, love, and will be there to support you on an emotional level. I know, I've met and communicated with quite a few, honest, good guys who are comfortable in their sexuality and are looking for what you're looking for, who I would not give a second thought to introducing to the people in my life. They're out there. In fact, quite a few of them are members right here on this very board.

Izzy, I have a few tg friends around your age that are facing the same issues you are, asking the same questions. You are not alone in any of this. Reach out to others, but be careful in your choices. And although it may seem hard at times, know that the easy road is not always the best road to take. Just stay true to you and the world will open up right before your eyes and bring you the happiness you deserve. :)

[62des]

But you neglect to mention that GG's are EVERYWHERE and you don't have to be on the internet to see them. Sure their in porn too but we interact with them in normal life and we know they aren't all like that.

[whatsupwithat]

But you neglect to mention that GG's are EVERYWHERE and you don't have to be on the internet to see them. Sure their in porn too but we interact with them in normal life and we know they aren't all like that.

Normal life?

Well, I interact with trans people in normal life. And just as gg's...they aren't all like that...they are human beings just like you and I. No different.

[KiraHarden]

Many do lead normal lives, not all TS females are hookers, escorts or porn stars... More guys view porn than woman, do they have normal lives, so i should say all men are PORNO addicts, pigs, and johns , based on based on the few...

[whatsupwithat]

Many do lead normal lives, not all TS females are hookers, escorts or porn stars... More guys view porn than woman, do they have normal lives, so i should say all men are PORNO addicts, pigs, and johns , based on based on the few...

It's been said before. Many times.

But, no, you shouldn't. :)

[62des]

But you neglect to mention that GG's are EVERYWHERE and you don't have to be on the internet to see them. Sure their in porn too but we interact with them in normal life and we know they aren't all like that.

Normal life?

Well, I interact with trans people in normal life. And just as gg's...they aren't all like that...they are human beings just like you and I. No different.

Everyone see women everyday. Transexuals are RARE in the public. The only time I've heard anyone mention transwomen is when seeing them on the street corner while passing by. Its not like their wearing a sign saying "I'm a Tranny" for those that are passable enough. Thier not common to see at jobs. You have to look at the bigger picture and not the one before your eyes.

[ottorocket]

I've been into internet surfing since I was 16 or for almost two years and joined some site for transsexuals coz' I'm trying to find some help or guide in being transsexual, now I'm 18 and it really bothers that some guys would just mail me or send message asking for some sex eyeball!! it sucks!!! I reall noticed that even before... Oh My!! :?


I think this OP profile is BS frankly.

[Perverted Monk]

I consider everybody, "just sex material"! I'll leave it at that.



Thats truth

[LG]

There are a ton of us normal guys out there that would love to get to know you. Unfortunately you've been bombarded by the closet dwellers whose wives are out shopping for the strongest vibrating device because hubby can no longer get the job done.


There are great guys out there who are looking for more than just sex, who want a relationship, intimacy, love, and will be there to support you on an emotional level. I know, I've met and communicated with quite a few, honest, good guys who are comfortable in their sexuality and are looking for what you're looking for, who I would not give a second thought to introducing to the people in my life. They're out there. In fact, quite a few of them are members right here on this very board.
Well said, guys. Some girls have been disappointed by guys out there, but there are many decent guys who would like to have a relationship with the girls.

[Rod la Rod]

I've been into internet surfing since I was 16 or for almost two years and joined some site for transsexuals coz' I'm trying to find some help or guide in being transsexual, now I'm 18 and it really bothers that some guys would just mail me or send message asking for some sex eyeball!! it sucks!!! I reall noticed that even before... Oh My!! :?

Most large cities have TS support groups with people who are leading normal lives and not in the sex industry. At 18 you will probably not find what you need for guidance and support on being transsexual in dating or porno sites, (like HA).

Try Googling "transsexual support" for your area.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=transsexual+support&btnG=Google+Search

[crayons]

[b]Pay no attention to the near dead semen of Tfan aka TS Tempted

here's the deal

There are a ton of us normal guys out there that would love to get to know you. Unfortunately you've been bombarded by the closet dwellers whose wives are out shopping for the strongest vibrating device because hubby can no longer get the job done.

You just have to be patient and understand that talking to boys you think are men online is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. Get out there and meet people face to face OFFLINE that will see you and appreciate you for you......................


JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel made a lot of good points, and yes, indeed there are men here who are genuine in meeting tgirls for a relation just as there are men here who aren't (example the individual Johnny quoted).

The best thing I can tell you is exactly what Johnny said "get OFFLINE" and meet people. It's so difficult to tell when a guy is being honest when he's behind a computer. Another thing is that there are A LOT of threads here that suggest fleeting lust on the men's part. This isn't to say that this is a bad thing, but today, if the best flat chested girl is A, will she still hold her crown in 2 weeks or so when the thread is revived?

Remember, there are tons of websites with tgirls that aren't in the industry, that hardly talk about sex, that prefer to work as a help, council and social group for one another. And sure, there are guys there, and some guys are in there just to try and get laid, but they also have a way to warn the girls about this etc.

If you want attention: this is the perfect place (except sooner or later, guys will be asking you to a tleast show them your tits or dick), but if you want a genuine support group, maybe you should look a little harder. This can be one, but it's a little more focused on the erotic side of things. :wink:

[crayons]

*double post

[Vicki Richter]

The last people I would want to hang out with is a bunch of tranny's in a support group. I challenge you guys to goto one of those meetings and come away with that same recommendation. It's the worst, cattiest, oddest thing ever. Middle aged trannies acting superior because they have vaginas and looking down at the younger more attractive girls or trying to play doctor and decide if you are a "true TS". Forget about being in the sex industry.

I've heard horror stories about these places from members and casual attenders.

The Internet is a great place to meet men and not just for sex. I met my first LTR on the Internet in an AOL chatroom and that relationship lasted 5 years.

What really happens is the girls talk to other girls and start getting this, "I've gotta get mine" mentality. I admit that I see girls and hear about outrageous sums of money they are making while I am doing freebies trying to find love. I tend to start going down a mental path of, "I'm that pretty or I am more pretty or I am more famous - and I should be making all that $" instead of hooking up for casual stuff that might lead to more - which, by the way, is what most real women have to do to find love.

I mean is there really a TS perception that out of 10 men you date or fuck one of them will be Mr. Right? Yes, and we want him to be tall, rich, dark, and handsome.

What causes this? The fact that we can't feel secure in a relationship is a big problem as well. I can't find a relationship and get legally married without a vagina. Furthermore, even then, a case recently occurred where a post-op TS had her inheritance taken away by some guys family/kids after they stated that regardless of her sex change, she was still a man and thus the marriage was nul and void. She lost the case and the appeal.

When doesn't it go through a attractive TS girls mind that, "I'll invest years into this relationship and then it will end after I've given up my best financially profitable sex work years."

If any of you have watched MiddleSex the movie, you will see that in foreign countries even educated TS are relegated to sex workers. There was an Indian woman with an IS degree who couldn't get a job in that field after her SRS. It is harder to get a job in this country being a TS. Very few companies want that drama. What drama? The restroom drama and complaints from women. The potential for a lawsuit if harassment occurs. A lot of this is caused by the manly transsexuals who haven't done anything to look like women, but go get sex changes. If they looked and acted more like women, the women would be less likely to complain.
Finally, for a pre-op woman looking for a job, Social Security will out you to your employer if you are perfectly stealth even. Even if your DL says F(emale) on it, SS still makes employers aware of gender disparities. The only way to fix it is to lie (make up a letter) or actually get SRS.

Anyway, it really can be a tough life overall for TS women and it is hard to shy away from the lucrative sex industry if you are young and attractive. If you are truly passable and educated it is much easier to integrate and receive acceptance and regular employment.

[62des]

*double postWE VIEW ALL WOMEN AS SEX OBJECTS! lol We can't look at you as a person until we talk and get to know you. Until then, look sexy. When's the last time you ever heard a guy say "Damn!, that chick's got a very nice brain AND she's intelligent", without every seeing her beforehand? All we see is what you have on the outside and that's when you prove what a great person you are after the attraction has been made.

[crayons]

*double postWE VIEW ALL WOMEN AS SEX OBJECTS! lol We can't look at you as a person until we talk and get to know you. Until then, look sexy. When's the last time you ever heard a guy say "Damn!, that chick's got a very nice brain AND she's intelligent", without every seeing her beforehand? All we see is what you have on the outside and that's when you prove what a great person you are after the attraction has been made.

thats absolutely fine by me, but what i say is be open about being a whore too. Like Vicki said, she doesn't want to be in a ts support group. who can blame her? if i was a pornstar last thing i'd want is to be with regular civilians talking about the normalities of life.

if you want to see chicks naked first and take it from there- SAY so. Don't be like "ohhh am looking for a serious relationship and don't care about your dick size but please attach a picture first so I can see what your working with"

And yes, I've seen/had/known girls get PMs from men who haven't seen their pictures with accolades of how beautiful and how smitten they were by their posts. It's no secret how desperate men are. They fuck dolls for Chris stake. And if your one of those that is very taken by whats on the outside, I know a nice little 3d program that renders very beautiful looking CGI chicks with awesome figures that costs less than $500. You'd never have to leave your room.
8)

[Vicki Richter]

*double postWE VIEW ALL WOMEN AS SEX OBJECTS! lol We can't look at you as a person until we talk and get to know you. Until then, look sexy. When's the last time you ever heard a guy say "Damn!, that chick's got a very nice brain AND she's intelligent", without every seeing her beforehand? All we see is what you have on the outside and that's when you prove what a great person you are after the attraction has been made.

This is a very realistic post and very true. Also, some of the few TS I've hung out with are so fucking boy crazy it is absolutely no different than how guys act. "OMG LOOK AT THAT GUY. DAMN." every two seconds. Annoying I think.

[Alison Faraday]

The last people I would want to hang out with is a bunch of tranny's in a support group. I challenge you guys to goto one of those meetings and come away with that same recommendation. It's the worst, cattiest, oddest thing ever. Middle aged trannies acting superior because they have vaginas and looking down at the younger more attractive girls or trying to play doctor and decide if you are a "true TS". Forget about being in the sex industry.

Yes yes yes!! Absolutely spot on. It is, without doubt, a nightmare!!

And according to some old hairy fat thing with a hole in their knickers, I'm a gay man as I do porn and escort!!! Nooo, if I wanted a hole without delay then I'd go into the back garden and dig one.

As my GP says, "If you're not mad now then you will be by the time they've finished with you."

This is one of the requirements of our all seeing NHS, ...to sit in a big circle with a group of people ranging from John who's worried about shaving his legs in case his wife finds out, right through to Veronica who's been stalking the Prime Minister for the last 10-years. And everything else inbetween. It's like something out of The Stepford Wives.

It truly has to be seen to be believed!!

[GroobySteven]

I'm sensing a great reality show...
... or a sit-com.
Ricky Gervais, are you listening mate?

seanchai

[ohioboy]

Im not going to lie...this is kinda how I feel....its totally a sexual attraction and as far as falling in love, I look to GG's. It seems shallow but its true.

[62des]

I for one feel the same way. Sounds shallow but people have to accept all opinions. I want to have a wife and kids but I still wouldn't just treat TS like sex objects. I'm just a big ass hordog. lol Its not a choice its just how we are. Not even thinking about consequences about being with TS women.

[KiraHarden]

support groups ive tried them, I agree with Vicky. Ive went to a
few,hoping to maybe meet other TS females, what a waste of time... Ill never go again, just the thought churns my stomach. If your going to transition be proud of who you are and dont hide waiting for your weekly support group meeting fix... I dont think they will ever truly be happy.
It also felt like a really bad fashion show
I came out everytime feeling worse than i went in.
kira


www.myspace.com/kiraharden
www.youtube.com/kiraharden
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/kiraharden

[crayons]

Im not going to lie...this is kinda how I feel....its totally a sexual attraction and as far as falling in love, I look to GG's. It seems shallow but its true.

if more people were this honest, the world would function more smoothly. :king

[Rod la Rod]

The last people I would want to hang out with is a bunch of tranny's in a support group. I challenge you guys to goto one of those meetings and come away with that same recommendation. It's the worst, cattiest, oddest thing ever. Middle aged trannies acting superior because they have vaginas and looking down at the younger more attractive girls or trying to play doctor and decide if you are a "true TS". Forget about being in the sex industry.

I've heard horror stories about these places from members and casual attenders.

The Internet is a great place to meet men and not just for sex. I met my first LTR on the Internet in an AOL chatroom and that relationship lasted 5 years.

What really happens is the girls talk to other girls and start getting this, "I've gotta get mine" mentality. I admit that I see girls and hear about outrageous sums of money they are making while I am doing freebies trying to find love. I tend to start going down a mental path of, "I'm that pretty or I am more pretty or I am more famous - and I should be making all that $" instead of hooking up for casual stuff that might lead to more - which, by the way, is what most real women have to do to find love.

I mean is there really a TS perception that out of 10 men you date or fuck one of them will be Mr. Right? Yes, and we want him to be tall, rich, dark, and handsome.

What causes this? The fact that we can't feel secure in a relationship is a big problem as well. I can't find a relationship and get legally married without a vagina. Furthermore, even then, a case recently occurred where a post-op TS had her inheritance taken away by some guys family/kids after they stated that regardless of her sex change, she was still a man and thus the marriage was nul and void. She lost the case and the appeal.

When doesn't it go through a attractive TS girls mind that, "I'll invest years into this relationship and then it will end after I've given up my best financially profitable sex work years."

If any of you have watched MiddleSex the movie, you will see that in foreign countries even educated TS are relegated to sex workers. There was an Indian woman with an IS degree who couldn't get a job in that field after her SRS. It is harder to get a job in this country being a TS. Very few companies want that drama. What drama? The restroom drama and complaints from women. The potential for a lawsuit if harassment occurs. A lot of this is caused by the manly transsexuals who haven't done anything to look like women, but go get sex changes. If they looked and acted more like women, the women would be less likely to complain.
Finally, for a pre-op woman looking for a job, Social Security will out you to your employer if you are perfectly stealth even. Even if your DL says F(emale) on it, SS still makes employers aware of gender disparities. The only way to fix it is to lie (make up a letter) or actually get SRS.

Anyway, it really can be a tough life overall for TS women and it is hard to shy away from the lucrative sex industry if you are young and attractive. If you are truly passable and educated it is much easier to integrate and receive acceptance and regular employment.

The Short-lived nature of youth, beauty and sex appeal is one thing most middle class GGs understand and anticipate.
Genetic females know that the way to insure their financial future is to have children with a successful man, (an earner), during their short reproductive years. Then when the husband moves on for a younger woman, they will be taken care of through child support ,alimony and family support.

Transsexual women do not have the POWER OF THE PUSSY and reproduction.

If you are lucky as a young attractive TS, escorting or doing porn, you will have maybe 10 good years of making a living. I have yet to hear of any TS who has actually achieved financial security from the sex industry, (Gia Darling and Vicki Richter may be the exception)
.
The idea of a single, unmarried woman making a living on her own without a family and children is something that is absolutely new and unheard of in western civilizations, except over the last 30-40 years, (since Mary Tyler Moore).

Sex work is at best a temporary career.

[Alchemist]

There are a ton of us normal guys out there that would love to get to know you. Unfortunately you've been bombarded by the closet dwellers whose wives are out shopping for the strongest vibrating device because hubby can no longer get the job done.

You just have to be patient and understand that talking to boys you think are men online is one of the biggest mistakes you can make. Get out there and meet people face to face OFFLINE that will see you and appreciate you for you......................

So true. I would honestly want to be in an open and honest relationship with a TS IF I HAD THE CHANCE. The world is so full of creeps, it's understandable that a TG would be a little reluctant, but you have to draw the line somewhere. You can't let preconcieved notions control you every decision. There are plenty of fish in the sea, i'm sure you'll find the right person. Just like JWBL said, be patient. :wink:

[mbf]

If any of you have The Short-lived nature of youth, beauty and sex appeal is one thing most middle class GGs understand and anticipate.
Genetic females know that the way to insure their financial future is to have children with a successful man, (an earner), during their short reproductive years. Then when the husband moves on for a younger woman, they will be taken care of through child support ,alimony and family support.

.

you have rather distorted views of women

[mbf]

trannys are only good for one thing, make that 2. sucking my dick and letting me fuck them. if you are looking for help go elsewhere. 99% of HA angels are hookers and the men are chasers and johns. get real :?
never trust a tranny period fuck em and forget em :)

Pay no attention to the near dead semen of Tfan aka TS Tempted



dont tell me Tfan has comebarebacked here? if so, pls introduce him to Mr.Ban as soon as possible

[Rod la Rod]

If any of you have The Short-lived nature of youth, beauty and sex appeal is one thing most middle class GGs understand and anticipate.
Genetic females know that the way to insure their financial future is to have children with a successful man, (an earner), during their short reproductive years. Then when the husband moves on for a younger woman, they will be taken care of through child support ,alimony and family support.

.

you have rather distorted views of women


Please tatoo, Tell me about all of the middle aged TS women in your life.

I am speaking from personal experience.

Let me know your "undistorted" views of women and TS women. I would love to hear.

[mbf]

[quote=mbf][. I would love to hear.

most women i know have a career going on for themselves and dont wait to rip off a guy via having a kid.

[Rod la Rod]

[quote=mbf][. I would love to hear.

most women i know have a career going on for themselves and dont wait to rip off a guy via having a kid.


Wow, that sounds so politically correct.

So what are some of the careers that the middle aged women and TS women that you know have? How long have they been transitioned? Has changing their sex affected their careers?

BTW, how old are you? You sound so wise.

[mbf]

[quote="Rod la Rod"][
Wow, that sounds so politically correct.

quote]

well thats MY personal experience.

[peggygee]

[quote=mbf][. I would love to hear.

most women i know have a career going on for themselves and dont wait to rip off a guy via having a kid.


Wow, that sounds so politically correct.

So what are some of the careers that the middle aged women and TS women that you know have? How long have they been transitioned? Has changing their sex affected their careers?

BTW, how old are you? You sound so wise.

I'm middle aged.

I've been full time over thirty years, ten as a post op.

Degreed and gainfully employed - not in the sex industry.

We do exist. :wink:

[whatsupwithat]

Im not going to lie...this is kinda how I feel....its totally a sexual attraction and as far as falling in love, I look to GG's. It seems shallow but its true.

if more people were this honest, the world would function more smoothly. :king

Yes, yes, it would.

Anonymity breeds honesty.

[phxguy]

I've been into internet surfing since I was 16 or for almost two years and joined some site for transsexuals coz' I'm trying to find some help or guide in being transsexual, now I'm 18 and it really bothers that some guys would just mail me or send message asking for some sex eyeball!! it sucks!!! I reall noticed that even before... Oh My!! :?

Why do people think transsexuals are just sex material? I can only speak for myself on this one. I first saw pre-op transsexuals through pornography. That's how I was introduced to them.

The only time I saw a pre-op transsexual in non-sexual material was Eva Robins in a 1982 Dario Argento horror film called "Tenabre", aka "Unsane". Back then, I didn't know she was a TS until just a few years ago.

According to IMDb.com, this is how she became a transsexual:

"She's not exactly a transsexual but suffers from a relatively rare syndrome: in spite of being genetically a male and looking like a normal boy during childhood, after reaching puberty, she naturally developed female secondary sexual characters instead of male."

[tsntx]

No offense to anyone but, when you see 99% of the trannies here escorting and everything, its damn near impossible to think otherwise than sex objects so if you're having sex a lot, don't expect for people to treat you otherwise. To some people its nothing more than a fantasy thing too. We men think women are sex objects if they have sex all the time. Its hard for a guy to be attracted to a person's brain when you don't know them and all you know is that the sex is great. Its up to you to prove otherwise.

supply and demand sweetheart... if there werent so many closet cases running around getting fucked behind their wives/ families/ friends/ coworkers backs and treating us like all were good for is fufilling that desire then there wouldnt be so many girls, who like me, got tired of being used and put a small pricetag on keeping your secret safe. you guys are tired of us being escorts is more about being tired of paying for something you think you should get for free... you want it for free baby? go home to your wife.

not pointing fingers and yes i know this doesnt apply to EVERY guy here... but to those that it does... there you go, now you know.

[whatsupwithat]

supply and demand sweetheart... if there werent so many closet cases running around getting fucked behind their wives/ families/ friends/ coworkers backs and treating us like all were good for is fufilling that desire then there wouldnt be so many girls, who like me, got tired of being used and put a small pricetag on keeping your secret safe. you guys are tired of us being escorts is more about being tired of paying for something you think you should get for free... you want it for free baby? go home to your wife.

not pointing fingers and yes i know this doesnt apply to EVERY guy here... but to those that it does... there you go, now you know.

Another truth.

[Rod la Rod]

[quote=mbf][. I would love to hear.

most women i know have a career going on for themselves and dont wait to rip off a guy via having a kid.


Wow, that sounds so politically correct.

So what are some of the careers that the middle aged women and TS women that you know have? How long have they been transitioned? Has changing their sex affected their careers?

BTW, how old are you? You sound so wise.

I'm middle aged.

I've been full time over thirty years, ten as a post op.

Degreed and gainfully employed - not in the sex industry.

We do exist. :wink:

Yes, my original argument was about the temporary, (and dangerous) nature of sex work for young transsexuals.
What I was trying to say is that young MTF-TS women do not have the same safety net that GGs have. By virtue of their ability to reproduce and become mothers, GGs have support, legal standing and a natural place in society that is not available for most TS women.

You are definitely a role model for the young TS.

[62des]

No offense to anyone but, when you see 99% of the trannies here escorting and everything, its damn near impossible to think otherwise than sex objects so if you're having sex a lot, don't expect for people to treat you otherwise. To some people its nothing more than a fantasy thing too. We men think women are sex objects if they have sex all the time. Its hard for a guy to be attracted to a person's brain when you don't know them and all you know is that the sex is great. Its up to you to prove otherwise.

supply and demand sweetheart... if there werent so many closet cases running around getting fucked behind their wives/ families/ friends/ coworkers backs and treating us like all were good for is fufilling that desire then there wouldnt be so many girls, who like me, got tired of being used and put a small pricetag on keeping your secret safe. you guys are tired of us being escorts is more about being tired of paying for something you think you should get for free... you want it for free baby? go home to your wife.

not pointing fingers and yes i know this doesnt apply to EVERY guy here... but to those that it does... there you go, now you know.

lol I'm sure the bottom guys here wouldn't be very happy to hear a comment such as that one. 8)

[ezed]

Why do people think transsexuals are just sex material?

Stop asking these questions.

Who is anyone to say what people think?

You don't know what "people" think. You run with the norms the media feed you.

The world is changing.

Relax.

Enjoy. Stop projecting polls as your basis of thought.

See the big picture of evolution, that has alwys been there, but has been surpressed by "the media" of that time by those who control the media.

Throw off everything you know. Sit back in your laz-boy. And honestly review your own thoughts.

What do you see. Go with it. Be ahead of the curve.

[eded]

Inviting

[Rover177]

One of the problems shall we say, there are so many pictures that present that situation. In dresses, jeans etc, show so many 'out' of the clothing and in general, the best this, best that, beauties from wherever depict sexual activity. Very few show an elegance that encourages wondering.

[transeeker]

One of the problems shall we say, there are so many pictures that present that situation. In dresses, jeans etc, show so many 'out' of the clothing and in general, the best this, best that, beauties from wherever depict sexual activity. Very few show an elegance that encourages wondering.

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