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whatsupwithat
07-13-2007, 03:31 AM
GUYS:

Honestly, can a man truly love a girl who escorts and be okay with her escorting? And do you honestly believe that it's a true love, a genuine love?

Yes. Or no. And say a few words why.



GIRLS WHO ESCORT:

Do you honestly believe a man that tells you he loves you...then says he has no problem with you escorting?

Yes. Or no. And say a few words why.

mbf
07-13-2007, 03:37 AM
been there done that. there was another htread with a similar topic but i cant remember the exct title.

yes, i think an escort-gf can truly love her bf. why the hck not? they want to be loved and respected like almost anybody elsewalking htis earth.

but no guy who was in a situation like that can tell me he doesnt care that shes an escort.

LTR_Seeker
07-13-2007, 03:40 AM
i couldnt be in that relationship it would bug me that she be with other guys not jealous just that she can do better.

whatsupwithat
07-13-2007, 03:41 AM
been there done that. there was another htread with a similar topic but i cant remember the exct title.

yes, i think an escort-gf can truly love her bf. why the hck not? they want to be loved and respected like almost anybody elsewalking htis earth.

but no guy who was in a situation like that can tell me he doesnt care that shes an escort.

I wasn't suggesting that the girls can't be loved and respected. That's not the point. No. I'm seriously asking if a guy truly loves a girl, would he be okay with her escorting? Thatnk you for your answer.

mbf
07-13-2007, 03:46 AM
I wasn't suggesting that the girls can't be loved and respected. That's not the point. No. I'm seriously asking if a guy truly loves a girl, would he be okay with her escorting? Thatnk you for your answer.

i dont know what others think, i couldnt cope with it and we split. i dont want to elaborate that any further. JUST: if you love your girl you will not be emotionally untouched by the situation.

whatsupwithat
07-13-2007, 03:48 AM
I wasn't suggesting that the girls can't be loved and respected. That's not the point. No. I'm seriously asking if a guy truly loves a girl, would he be okay with her escorting? Thatnk you for your answer.

i dont know what others think, i couldnt cope with it and we split. i dont want to elaborate that any further. JUST: if you love your girl you will not be emotionally untouched by the situation.

I 100% agree with you.

rick_932
07-13-2007, 03:51 AM
yes, its possible for a man to love a girl who's an escort, but i would say that those guys are in the minority. i dont think many guys, including myself, could do it

Ecstatic
07-13-2007, 04:31 AM
Between you and I and the gatepost, I think you know where I stand on the question, whatsupwithat. The short answer is a qualified yes: if a guy loves a woman, then he will love her regardless of her occupation. But it can be extremely difficult, and if she loves him, I think that (after whatever length of time it takes) she will leave escorting behind.

Speaking for myself, the sex would not bother me (else damn me for a hypocrite), but the risks (STDs, possible assault, financial) would (and do: as you know, I'm not in love with an escort, but there are a couple who I love dearly as friends and I hate to think of anything bad happening to them as a result of their escorting; it is that much harder for someone in love with an escort).

Still, sometimes a woman has to do certain things, for a time, to reach her goals, and escorting may be the path for a while. Then, if the love is true and mutual, I think there's a period of mutual support and acceptance, but that that period will be eclipsed and replaced when the two have been together long enough to know that it is real and therefore time to let the escorting go.

There's no easy formula or answer, since each circumstance is unique, but I think it's inevitable, if qualified by the fact that a woman will not want to become dependent on a single guy and therefore must have an alternative career to move into to maintain her own independence and security, and some serious life adjustments to make (income level, work demands, lifestyle changes, etc.).

Love and time and commitment. For a time, the guy must be accepting while she adjusts, but likewise she must accept his needs and let the occupation go, or lose him. But he should not let go too soon or easily, as it takes time.

I also think that for some, it could work out that she continues to escort and he accepts this as her work and, so long as she is careful and plays safe, doesn't let it bother him. But such people are very rare or only fooling themselves. But like I say, for me it's not the sex that would be an issue, it's the health risks that concern me.

TomSelis
07-13-2007, 04:34 AM
I couldn't do it.

The first transexual woman I was with was doing the school thing. I moved in with her and we lived together. After finding a job didn't pan out, she started dabbling. First with the escorting, then with drugs (the drugs might've come first). When I found out I almost immediately left.

There was a high degree of mistrust there. It takes a special man to deal with that.

whatsupwithat
07-13-2007, 04:54 AM
Between you and I and the gatepost, I think you know where I stand on the question, whatsupwithat. The short answer is a qualified yes: if a guy loves a woman, then he will love her regardless of her occupation. But it can be extremely difficult, and if she loves him, I think that (after whatever length of time it takes) she will leave escorting behind.

Speaking for myself, the sex would not bother me (else damn me for a hypocrite), but the risks (STDs, possible assault, financial) would (and do: as you know, I'm not in love with an escort, but there are a couple who I love dearly as friends and I hate to think of anything bad happening to them as a result of their escorting; it is that much harder for someone in love with an escort).

Still, sometimes a woman has to do certain things, for a time, to reach her goals, and escorting may be the path for a while. Then, if the love is true and mutual, I think there's a period of mutual support and acceptance, but that that period will be eclipsed and replaced when the two have been together long enough to know that it is real and therefore time to let the escorting go.

There's no easy formula or answer, since each circumstance is unique, but I think it's inevitable, if qualified by the fact that a woman will not want to become dependent on a single guy and therefore must have an alternative career to move into to maintain her own independence and security, and some serious life adjustments to make (income level, work demands, lifestyle changes, etc.).

Love and time and commitment. For a time, the guy must be accepting while she adjusts, but likewise she must accept his needs and let the occupation go, or lose him. But he should not let go too soon or easily, as it takes time.

I also think that for some, it could work out that she continues to escort and he accepts this as her work and, so long as she is careful and plays safe, doesn't let it bother him. But such people are very rare or only fooling themselves. But like I say, for me it's not the sex that would be an issue, it's the health risks that concern me.

Thanks for your words, Ecstatic. I agree with all of your points, especially time and commitment and acceptance. Perhaps I'm putting the cart before the horse, so to say. :)

Hara_Juku Tgirl
07-13-2007, 05:15 AM
GUYS:

Honestly, can a man truly love a girl who escorts and be okay with her escorting? And do you honestly believe that it's a true love, a genuine love?

Yes. Or no. And say a few words why.

I doubt it! First of all, Love isnt something people "share" with other people. Especially sex. What man would like to see his girl have sex with other men? Hmm..Zero! LOL So if a guy can say he isnt bothered by it (His girl escorting) then that isnt love but "sex for convinience" type of a relationship (til someone better comes along?).


GIRLS WHO ESCORT:

Do you honestly believe a man that tells you he loves you...then says he has no problem with you escorting?

Yes. Or no. And say a few words why.

Seriously? LOL No! See above. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

neuromancer
07-13-2007, 05:22 AM
if I like somebody, i do a barrel roll and just let it happen on it's own.

then I demand they stop escorting and enforce my primitive morality upon them because every girl wants to hear 'you're so much better than THIS'. that's some sweet talking right thurr.




i want the hallmark card brand of love, the one that's completely fake and doesn't exist. if they refuse I freak out about it in a completely non-rational stalker way 'baby.. i can't live without yoo'

DJ_Asia
07-13-2007, 05:29 AM
Having a bit of experience in this area I can share my personal experiences.

For me I loved my ex g/f's who escorted "to a degree",always reserving a percentage of my emotions for self preservation due to the inevitable issues that come w/ escorting,not just the act of sleeping w/ others for money,but also how it effects the girl on a daily basis in other areas as well.

I havent "loved hard" an escort in a very long time,nor do I think I will ever allow myself to again,but its not to say that feelings werent there or genuine.

justatransgirl
07-13-2007, 05:32 AM
It's maybe a little bit different with us, being that my partner and I are both trans and both providers but our love for one another as leabians is as deep as any straight love.

Possibly because we are trans or providers we don't have the jealousy that men often have if their partner is with someone else.

While we love to invite others into our lives, there is still a part that is just ours. We are able to separate our business from our personal lives without problems. I don't know if thsi will affect us long term somehow, but like when we are with a date our affection is real and unrestrained. And when the the dates over and we are alone again it's like it never happened.

I mean we remember having a good or bad time, but we just kind of flip a switch and go back to our lives as if nothing happened.

I don't think this works for most guys as they become possessive and want an exclusive arrangement. Maybe it's something hard wired into most people's brains that sort of shorted out in ours. I dunno.

Hugs,
TS Jamie

tgirlzoe
07-13-2007, 05:32 AM
if I like somebody, i do a barrel roll and just let it happen on it's own.

will you quit with the 4chan memes, it's really annoying and immature.

tgirlzoe
07-13-2007, 05:40 AM
i've been in two primary polyamorous relationships, each lasting over two years (so about five years total). i think it's definitely possible to do but i also have decided now that i don't think it's for me. i don't like the level of jealousy commonly associated with monogamous relationships but i think that's still want i want for my next relationship.

not exactly like escorting but something.

i remember an old thread in which someone said that guys think they would love to date a porn star but in reality, they just can't deal with the jealousy that comes with it and that the only guys who can date girls in the industry are guys who are in the industry. that's probably true.

whatsupwithat
07-13-2007, 05:53 AM
if I like somebody, i do a barrel roll and just let it happen on it's own.

then I demand they stop escorting and enforce my primitive morality upon them because every girl wants to hear 'you're so much better than THIS'. that's some sweet talking right thurr.




i want the hallmark card brand of love, the one that's completely fake and doesn't exist. if they refuse I freak out about it in a completely non-rational stalker way 'baby.. i can't live without yoo'

i totally recognize where your comments are coming from having thought i was cool as shit, already jaded, beyond it all, and so much smarter than anyone else when I was about 18. then, life happened.

whatsupwithat
07-13-2007, 05:55 AM
Having a bit of experience in this area I can share my personal experiences.

For me I loved my ex g/f's who escorted "to a degree",always reserving a percentage of my emotions for self preservation due to the inevitable issues that come w/ escorting,not just the act of sleeping w/ others for money,but also how it effects the girl on a daily basis in other areas as well.

I havent "loved hard" an escort in a very long time,nor do I think I will ever allow myself to again,but its not to say that feelings werent there or genuine.

I guess that's my point, that one can't truly give all of themselves due to emotional self-preservation and therefore can't fully love someone.

whatsupwithat
07-13-2007, 06:06 AM
i've been in two primary polyamorous relationships, each lasting over two years (so about five years total). i think it's definitely possible to do but i also have decided now that i don't think it's for me. i don't like the level of jealousy commonly associated with monogamous relationships but i think that's still want i want for my next relationship.

not exactly like escorting but something.

i remember an old thread in which someone said that guys think they would love to date a porn star but in reality, they just can't deal with the jealousy that comes with it and that the only guys who can date girls in the industry are guys who are in the industry. that's probably true.

I think I could deal with something polyamorous more easily than I could my partner escorting. Not sure why. :)

JustATransGirl

Interesting that you're both providers. And lesbian lovers on top of that. I would think that would make a huge difference for me, personally.

whatsupwithat
07-13-2007, 06:08 AM
Hara...laying down the law, Pinay-style! :)

NadiaUSA
07-13-2007, 06:20 AM
Ladies,
If a guys says he loves you and can afford to take you out of the business, yet does not, He is a liar. He knows you may be killed, injured or arrested. Yet, he tells you what you want to hear to get free sex from you.
Also, my new website www.shemale-listing.com is up.

Regards,
Nadia

Hara_Juku Tgirl
07-13-2007, 06:23 AM
Hara...laying down the law, Pinay-style! :)

LOL I cant help it E..Im traditional when it comes to LTR's. If the situation was reversed and the guy I really "like" hustled to make a living I wouldnt be too keen to dating him either. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

Ecstatic
07-13-2007, 06:23 AM
I doubt it! First of all, Love isnt something people "share" with other people. Especially sex. What man would like to see his girl have sex with other men? Hmm..Zero! LOL So if a guy can say he isnt bothered by it (His girl escorting) then that isnt love but "sex for convinience" type of a relationship (til someone better comes along?).
Sorry, Hara, but you're wrong there. A great many men actually love to see their women having sex with other people. Not everyone is monotanous, err, monogamous. Seriously, for me love and sex are by no means equivalent. I'm something of a romantic and like to think that sex with love is the best there is, but actually the best sex of my life has been with three women (one G, two TG) with whom I was not in love. So for me, sex would not be the issue. Her safety--from STDs, physical abuse, getting ripped off--would concern me.

However, I also think it takes time: it takes time to truly love someone (I've been married for 26 years, and I'm still in love with my wife), and it takes time for a relationship to grow to where two people can not only feel that wonderful rush of love but also trust and respect one another enough to change and grow as needed for one another. To expect that too soon is also an illusion.

Hara_Juku Tgirl
07-13-2007, 06:32 AM
Sorry, Hara, but you're wrong there. A great many men actually love to see their women having sex with other people. Not everyone is monotanous, err, monogamous. Seriously, for me love and sex are by no means equivalent. I'm something of a romantic and like to think that sex with love is the best there is, but actually the best sex of my life has been with three women (one G, two TG) with whom I was not in love. So for me, sex would not be the issue. Her safety--from STDs, physical abuse, getting ripped off--would concern me.

However, I also think it takes time: it takes time to truly love someone (I've been married for 26 years, and I'm still in love with my wife), and it takes time for a relationship to grow to where two people can not only feel that wonderful rush of love but also trust and respect one another enough to change and grow as needed for one another. To expect that too soon is also an illusion.

Well Ecstatic, Im old school. LOL Also, you dont have a traditional relationship with your wife. So I was only speaking about my personal views about LTR's. I mean, if it works for you then all the better! ;) Generally though, most people would prefer NOT to share their wives and or husbands with a 3rd party. But LTR styles in varied cultures do differ. Westerners are more open to sharing while eastern counterparts are different. :P

~Kisses.

HTG

Ecstatic
07-13-2007, 06:37 AM
Very true, Hara. What surprises me a bit is how many escorts have told me that they can not imagine sharing their S.O. with someone else. I mean, I know that they don't see work as relationship, but it is an interesting perspective.

And I agree that most people are more traditional. When we were married, my wife and I deliberately left out the bit about "forsaking all others" (in fact, we wrote our own vows).

Ecstatic
07-13-2007, 06:57 AM
Yes, but the problem is partly that the woman in question may not want to be "provided for" or "taken care of" but be independent and able to provide for herself. Being the knight in shining armor (especially when she's often seen the rust beneath the shine) may not be what she's looking for. Hell, my wife makes more money than I do, and has for 18 out of the past 20 years.

That's one reason I say it may take time to work through these things.

qeuqheeg222
07-14-2007, 07:43 AM
i've been here and done it too and i dont know if it works for everybody...the emotions on hold contingency plan always seems to be in play when you mess with the free-lance entrepeneurs...kinda better to keep at safe distance..and what is funny and hypocritical at the same time is the girls never wanted me to go and get some outside or from some layaway bitches.....

alpha2117
07-14-2007, 01:25 PM
I've been there sadly and the answer is "Yes" it is possible to love the girl but it's hard. I was asking her to give it up but she wanted independance rather than a guy paying for her. In the end it caused the relationship to kind of fizzle out.

tsntx
07-14-2007, 02:48 PM
Ladies,
If a guys says he loves you and can afford to take you out of the business, yet does not, He is a liar. He knows you may be killed, injured or arrested. Yet, he tells you what you want to hear to get free sex from you.
Also, my new website www.shemale-listing.com is up.

Regards,
Nadia

i think nadia has one of the best photogs/ lighting techs/ photoshoppers in the biz... almost NONE of the pics posted of TS's look like this kind of quality.

kudos to whoever he/she is, nadia


and co-sign w/ statement

BrendaQG
07-14-2007, 04:50 PM
Ladies,
If a guys says he loves you and can afford to take you out of the business, yet does not, He is a liar. He knows you may be killed, injured or arrested. Yet, he tells you what you want to hear to get free sex from you.
Also, my new website www.shemale-listing.com is up.

Regards,
Nadia

I second that emotion.

NadiaUSA
07-14-2007, 09:33 PM
Ladies,
If a guys says he loves you and can afford to take you out of the business, yet does not, He is a liar. He knows you may be killed, injured or arrested. Yet, he tells you what you want to hear to get free sex from you.
Also, my new website www.shemale-listing.com is up.

Regards,
Nadia

i think nadia has one of the best photogs/ lighting techs/ photoshoppers in the biz... almost NONE of the pics posted of TS's look like this kind of quality.

kudos to whoever he/she is, nadia


and co-sign w/ statement

Thanks, I take all my own pictures, I have taken some classes from great photgraphers. My collection of backdrops and lighting is growing too.

I am looking for pretty eros Ts's that want pictures so I can build my portfolio. I would like to charge eventually but for now I just want to get started. I have all this equipment just sitting here between my own uses.

Contact me at nadiavipmail@yahoo.com and send me a photo of yourself if you can make it to West Hollywood, CA.

Regards,
Nadia

Priapus
07-15-2007, 11:14 AM
Yes and yes. It can happen.

Priapus
07-15-2007, 11:37 AM
.......

hwbs
07-15-2007, 11:18 PM
i don't know what i believe anymore , on this matter.

AllanahStarrNYC
07-15-2007, 11:38 PM
Yes and Yes- but it takes two very special, extremely honest, non jaded , trusting, and open people.

It's rare but it can happen.

whatsupwithat
07-16-2007, 06:28 AM
thanks, everyone, for your responses.

've gotten a lot of great feedback, pros and cons, from people both in the biz and not, on this board and off. it's been tremendously helpful in helping me to come to terms with this issue. it's been heavily weighing on my mind recently due to some people that are in my life.

thank you again! :)

ptyseminole
07-16-2007, 06:22 PM
No, if you really love someone you will definetly not want her to escort.