Law Enforcement Abuse

[62des]

I watched this show once where policemen had this decoy lady pose as a prostitute on the street corner. They would send her out to find tricks and when cars stopped for her, she would convince them to get "service" from her and when they drove around the corner for the act, the cops would immediately arrest them. That's a complete setup that shouldn't be. Is that bullshit or what? To me I think it was abusing their power.

[traumatism]

apparently in the uk, doing that is curb crawling and is actually illegal. (driving up to the curb i mean)

[TheOne1]

they do the same trick for "to catch a predator" shows.... lure child predators in from the internet, and arrest them when they think they are going to a house to fak a little girl or boy under the age of 14.......

is that abusing their power also? or would you rather have these bus drivers, DA's, and food store workers still be out lurking?

im sure if law enforcement were doing anything wrong by luring in suspected johns, or child predators, the supreme court would have stepped in by now.. but....ya always got civil court for the whiners

[tgirlzoe]

it's close to entrapment and there really are better things to do than to catch adult johns trying to pick up adult hookers. girls just get arrested and processed and go back on the street. a lot of places don't bother to arrest them, they just give them services to help them get off the street because a lot are homeless, many are addicts and what's the easiest way to make a buck as a female?

my town and many like it, were built on prostitution. there are a bunch of old cat houses down by the water front. the police were paid off by the madams and everything was good ~ it was good business for the town. then reformers came and shut them down and the town had to find other ways of attracting guys off their ships. it's a big part of history the world over and to go around trying to crack down on prostitution, pornography and other things is simply useless.

kids are one thing, adults are another.

[SarahG]

it's close to entrapment and there really are better things to do than to catch adult johns trying to pick up adult hookers. girls just get arrested and processed and go back on the street. a lot of places don't bother to arrest them, they just give them services to help them get off the street because a lot are homeless, many are addicts and what's the easiest way to make a buck as a female?

my town and many like it, were built on prostitution. there are a bunch of old cat houses down by the water front. the police were paid off by the madams and everything was good ~ it was good business for the town. then reformers came and shut them down and the town had to find other ways of attracting guys off their ships. it's a big part of history the world over and to go around trying to crack down on prostitution, pornography and other things is simply useless.

kids are one thing, adults are another.

During the Civil War the Union had an expirement with legalized prostitution (in Tenn if I remember right) and it was not only a complete success, but completely funded a system of hospitals to treat stds for girls and soldiers.

EDIT- I remember hearing that the history channel did a show on that one actually but I haven't seen it.

[Mr_Choc69]

It is NOT entrapment or anywhere close to it - they are not making any of those people pull over and solicit a sex act. They do it under their own power. People need to start taking accountability for their own actions and stop blaming everyone else. If you pull over and talk to a UC and get arrested - that is YOUR fault.

[tgirlzoe]

It is NOT entrapment or anywhere close to it - they are not making any of those people pull over and solicit a sex act. They do it under their own power. People need to start taking accountability for their own actions and stop blaming everyone else. If you pull over and talk to a UC and get arrested - that is YOUR fault.

There is no difference between prostitution, escorting, stripping and pornography. Most guys (and some girls) consume parts of the sex trade industry for better or worse. The only reason why they do they sorts of stings on any parts of the industry is because it makes politicians look good. Example: Recruits Sought for Porn Squad (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570.html), Washington Post, 2005-09-20

It's a waste of time. If you're going to go after anything, at least go after child porn and teen prostitutes and get them services, we're adults, we should be able to do with our body what we please. There is no difference between going on a date for cash and going on a date for a nice dinner or a piece of jewelry. But bring a camera and it becomes legit again. The whole thing is bunk.

Same thing with drugs. Multi-billion dollar corporations will sell you drugs that end up permanently harming and killing people. Tobacco causes cancer. Alcohol causes cirrhosis of the liver and people often get violent and uncontrollable. But a few buds equals jail time.

In the Miriam thread, someone said that the cops shouldn't be blamed for not following up on her case because they're too busy. This is what they're too busy with ~ trying to assert their own power over people where no one wants them to >.<

[SarahG]

... we're adults, we should be able to do with our body what we please. ...

Now you're starting to sound like I do in some threads. Careful, you may get some people saying your consent rights don't really matter in the "real world." :banghead



In the Miriam thread, someone said that the cops shouldn't be blamed for not following up on her case because they're too busy. This is what they're too busy with ~ trying to assert their own power over people where no one wants them to

Agreed completely. Obviously the solution is to put more cops on the street, I mean its worked so well to bring law and order to Egypt with their state of emergency [/sarcasm]

I have nothing against cops, but there are fallacies with assuming they should be used for more than what is truly necessary, just as there are fallacies in assuming throwing an infinitely growing number of cops on the streets will cure all of society's problems (I am not saying there are NO places that need more cops on the street mind you).

[tgirlzoe]

I have nothing against cops, but there are fallacies with assuming they should be used for more than what is truly necessary, just as there are fallacies in assuming throwing an infinitely growing number of cops on the streets will cure all of society's problems (I am not saying there are NO places that need more cops on the street mind you).

Cops (and the entire law enforcement sector), like doctors, treat symptoms, not causes. Indeed, if they treated causes, many would be out of a job and that's no fun.