Are there many genetic women that enjoy Tgirls?

[geekman33]

I was wondering this and thought what better place to ask that question than here? What say you citizens?

[youcancallmeclaire]

I've had a few girlfriends who had originally approached me because I was trans and seemed to be really into the idea. ^_^
Whether or not they actually go online and seek out porn though is a totally different question.

[hwbs]

i know some lesbians are big fans... i had encountered many a hating lesbian on the train with my ex...

[Quinn]

I know a woman in mid-town who enjoys TS women on occasion.

-Quinn

[werwt22]

I know one that is also.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Ava Devine

XXX porn star who has taken it roughly from behind by Vicki, Vanity, and a few others................

fuckin slut

[tsmandy]

Yes.

There are quite a few non-trans ladies that thoroughly enjoy gals like us. Thank goodness.

[blackmadison]

Hi.


Delurking to say that yes, there are genetic women who like transwomen. But there doesn't seem to be many transwomen who like women though.




j.

[goldensamba]

My lady is into it too. We would love to have a girl to play with both of us but it seems impossible to find one who in into a couple.

[whatsupwithat]

Hi.


Delurking to say that yes, there are genetic women who like transwomen. But there doesn't seem to be many transwomen who like women though.




j.

delurking...heh...i like that.

hi! :)

[tsmandy]

Hi.


Delurking to say that yes, there are genetic women who like transwomen. But there doesn't seem to be many transwomen who like women though.




j.

There are, most definitely transwomen who like gg ladies. You just have to be looking in the right places, maybe hung angels isn't the best place for that, you might have better luck at your local lesbian hang outs.

xoxo

[eze]

I know Ava Devine and Roxy Jezel enjoy it.

[tgirlzoe]

I came out to a new roommate about a week after I moved in (I had intended to tell her prior but chickened out). We were looking at photos so I showed her mine, including old ones, she said, "Who is that?" and I said "Me!". She understood and was like, "So you're trans?" She flips back through her album and points to a pretty girl in a ren faire outfit and said "So is she."

The other thing she said was, "I thought that was you!" She had run across nekkid photos of me online. How should I have known she was into TS porn? I used to send her links to TG-on-GG stuff after that.

She was also into me but I would always resist, saying that it shouldn't happen while we are living together. So about a week after I moved out, we hung out, drank a little, played video games and messed around. The next time, she went down on me, I was a little uncomfortable but decided to just go with it. She gave a damn good blowjob, better than I'd had before.

I asked her the next day what she thought, she said it was so wonderful to be with a girl again ~ she was bisexual but had only been with boys in the past couple years. She said that it was like being with a girl... with a penis. She loved that I still flipped around and moaned like other girls while she was going down on me.

Another time we nearly had a threesome, but that's another story.

So yes, that maybe the only GG I've been with as a girl (not counting my FTM ex-fiance, who was not in transition at the time) but there are definitely GGs out there who like TSs.

There are also plenty of bisexual and even lesbian TS around ~ we have Jaime and Mandy right here and I'll add my name to the list. This is without even mentioning the middle-aged married crossdresser/TS types that dominate support groups, forums and the media.

[justatransgirl]

Yes, trans girls make the perfect partner for a GG. We're girls too, soft and sexy and nice, but we've got something every girl needs on occasion. AND we can fix their sink too! :-)

In the lesbian community, which Jessica and I sort of flit around the edges of, I find some girls are very turned on by the fact that we are trans, and others find us a threat to their lesbianism. Of course EVERYONE loves Jessica. When we go to a girl club she like needs one of those "pick a number" machines.

Because we are in a relationship, we don't sexually date single women unless they pay to play and that's never happened. (Business is business and pleaure is cheating.)

But I / we date probably 6-10 couples a year and that's always a really fun and sensual time. To me one of the best sexual times with a couple is the girl and I both being taken by the man and finishing him off with dual head so we both get his cum.

I'd love to find a GG to double or triple with us on a regular basis. We had a girlfriend stay with us for about 10 days about a year ago. But it was sort of a revenge thing for her, and she went back to her loser BF. We probably dated 80 guys that week. Yeah - do the math on that one. I could retire in 6 months with the right GG partner. Giggle.

With lesbian women I find more confusion. While the "we have what they need" joke actually is somewhat tue, it causes them a lot of confusion about their sexuality. How can they be lesbian when they like dick? That sort of thing. The "am I gay" thread in reverse.

And I find they tend to relate to me more as a femme boytoy, meaning they take the submissive traditional female role and I sort of feel forced into the domme role. Which I don't really care for. But while I don't like to "top" men, I find I do sometimes enjoy it with a GG girl. But I don't want to be some GG's "boyfriend" in a traditional sense.

I've run into a few hostile older lesbian women, who just do not seem to understand TS's any more than the religous right. I've had them send me hate mail back when I used to fool around in a couple of lesbian forums. "You'll never be a "real" woman..." And last summer Jessica and I were at a girls day thing, where transgirls has been specifically invited, and one bitch at the mike took like 10 minutes to say how screwed up transwomen are and why in the world would we want to cut off our peckers, etc.

But on the other hand I participate in a couple of provider only forums where I'm the only T-girl, and Jessica and I are part of a straight escort group where we're the only transsexuals. And I've found our GG escort friends - which I probably have more of than TS friends - have been almost universally accepting. When I announced my upcoming boob job in one forum I got an incredible outpouring of support and advice.

So yes, I like boys, and I like girls, and I like t-girls, and I like boy and girls and t-girls together!

Giggle,
TS Jamie :-)

PS: Nice to see you back Mandy! I miss your bondage avatar. :-)

[tgirlzoe]

And I find they tend to relate to me more as a femme boytoy, meaning they take the submissive traditional female role and I sort of feel forced into the domme role. Which I don't really care for. But while I don't like to "top" men, I find I do sometimes enjoy it with a GG girl. But I don't want to be some GG's "boyfriend" in a traditional sense.

With my ex-fiance and with the roommate I mentioned, I was bottom and they were pretty masculine. The roommate was significantly taller and bigger than me (I was 5'6", 135lb and she was about 5'9" and heavier) and that helps. As some guys say they are attracted to femininity, even in biological males (BBs or MTFs), I am attracted to masculinity, even in biological females (GG or FTM).

I've experimented with topping and while I can sort of get into it, it's not my thing. I like being bottom or just equal, making out and messing around without real roles.

[Caleigh]

I think any mention of porn actresses who have done films
with Ts is a red herring. They are doing it as a job, they
aren't going out and looking for a TS partner. Allanah herself
mentioned in a thread that even though she has performed
with other TS she herself is basically only into guys.

I have a GG partner but she is in NO way INTO Tgirls. I just
happen to be TS. When we met it wasn't my gender that
interested her but my personality/character.

[joser6133]

My wife enjoys trans porn, it's her favorite actually.

[tsmandy]

I'd love to find a GG to double or triple with us on a regular basis. We had a girlfriend stay with us for about 10 days about a year ago. But it was sort of a revenge thing for her, and she went back to her loser BF. We probably dated 80 guys that week. Yeah - do the math on that one. I could retire in 6 months with the right GG partner. Giggle.

Tell me about it. Some of my favorite dates involved me, my sweetie, sometimes another GG provider and a man. The sex was always fantastic, and the pay was good too.




With lesbian women I find more confusion. While the "we have what they need" joke actually is somewhat tue, it causes them a lot of confusion about their sexuality. How can they be lesbian when they like dick? That sort of thing. The "am I gay" thread in reverse.

And I find they tend to relate to me more as a femme boytoy, meaning they take the submissive traditional female role and I sort of feel forced into the domme role. Which I don't really care for. But while I don't like to "top" men, I find I do sometimes enjoy it with a GG girl. But I don't want to be some GG's "boyfriend" in a traditional sense.

Yeah, mainstream Gay and Lesbian culture is kind of hostile to trans girls, especially Lesbian seperatists that run gatherings like the Michigan Womens Music Festival and such. But even within the more radical segments of Lesbian culture, trans issues are at the forefront. At this point, I tend to hang out in spaces with queer identified people much more than Lesbian per se. So in those groups of people its not cool to be openly transphobic.

It is still incredibly difficult as a trans-woman to navigate those circles with women romantically. It was years of feeling like an outcast before I started meeting women that I clicked with sexually. I think I was kind of freaked out at first about what it meant for me as a trans-woman to like women. I worried all the time that my queer friends would think me straight, and women I was attracted to sometimes dealt with the same thing. In the end though, I met the people I needed to meet. Now I have a formidable world of support and love, hot dates, kinky comrades, and damn good pals.



I've run into a few hostile older lesbian women, who just do not seem to understand TS's any more than the religous right. I've had them send me hate mail back when I used to fool around in a couple of lesbian forums. "You'll never be a "real" woman..." And last summer Jessica and I were at a girls day thing, where transgirls has been specifically invited, and one bitch at the mike took like 10 minutes to say how screwed up transwomen are and why in the world would we want to cut off our peckers, etc.

The world is just full of assholes huh?



But on the other hand I participate in a couple of provider only forums where I'm the only T-girl, and Jessica and I are part of a straight escort group where we're the only transsexuals. And I've found our GG escort friends - which I probably have more of than TS friends - have been almost universally accepting. When I announced my upcoming boob job in one forum I got an incredible outpouring of support and advice.

I had a very similar experience up here in Portland. I was fairly active in some local provider and hobbyist communities that were entirely straight. Some people were freaked out by my presence, but many others were happy to see me, and I had a great time.

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Anyways, my take on women being into trans women as a specific sexuality? I don't know. I frequently and currently date women who date women and men, and they recognize me as a woman. It's not very complicated to my lover. I'm a girl. She's a girl. She was into girls before me, and if we split, she still will.

But I'm really lucky, and it sounds like you are too Jamie.

[SarahG]

Hi.
But there doesn't seem to be many transwomen who like women though.


I dunno about that, it at least seems that there is a much higher percentage of tgirls who are into girls than is the case with GGs.

[justatransgirl]

Hi.
But there doesn't seem to be many transwomen who like women though.


I dunno about that, it at least seems that there is a much higher percentage of tgirls who are into girls than is the case with GGs.

Gosh, I thought ALL GG's under 30 were bi. :-)

And thank you Mandy for your wonderful comments. Gosh it rained so much here this week I thought I was in Oregon...

I've heard about that Women's festival. As I understand it the vast majority of the women are in our corner, just the management won't give in. But I have noticed when you get a bunch of lesbians together outside of a bar environment they can get pretty catty and close their club.

What was so sad about the event here in SD, was the MC of the event was trans. She was so mad she stormed out. I also wrote an endtorial about it in the local GLT magazine. I don't think there will be a repeat next year.

Jessica is going to try to join a sorority this semester at college. They seem to be open to her joining, I think they need a token trans girl for "diversity." We will see if she can crack the vaginal wall and win their hearts and minds - or at least their friendship. :-)

And yes, in our group, in the beginning some of the guys were kind of homophobic. But they came around after a couple of parties, and I've even corrupted a few over to the dark side. At our last big party Jessica was making out with one of the GG's (who fortunately is married, or I'd be seriously worried...) and I noticed a bunch of guys totally oogling it.

Now the guys aren't afraid that if they are seen talking to us at the bar that everyone will think they are gay. We are all just people. We may have to win them over one person at a time, but if we all work at it, who knows what we can accomplish.

Hugs,
TS Jamie :-)