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Rod la Rod
06-20-2007, 02:16 AM
1. Lack of legal status and protection.
2. Lack of respect, and in many cases contempt, fear and even hatred from Law enforcement officers.
3. Clients who tend to be disturbed, self hating, psychopathic closet cases and wanna be's.
4. Lack of support, respect and understanding from both the straight and the Gay community.
5. General lack of support and separation in many cases, from family and society.

Do these factors and others make the occupation of transsexual prostitute at least 100 times more deadly and dangerous than a regular female prostitute?

BTW can anyone actually do it sober?

hondarobot
06-20-2007, 03:00 AM
I suppose it is a dangerous occupation, but probably not the worst. Apparently "timber cutter" is at the top of most lists, and that seems to make sense. I don't see how wielding chainsaws and cutting down trees could ever really be that safe of a thing to do.

Oddly enough, in a somewhat related sense, I got hit on the head by a ten foot 2x4 the other day at work. We've been tearing down an interior wall on the second floor, with the purpose being to install some large pictures of our drag performers that can be seen from outside. We've got three of the prints installed so far, and I'll be rigging some lights up tomarrow.

The incident I'm refering to happened about a week ago, long story, but out of the blue this damn piece of wood gets knocked over. Lucky me, it lands square on my head. It was a bizarre sensation, because I wasn't expecting this at all (obviously). It was just "BAM!", a split second near black out, and then a few seconds thinking "What the hell just happened? Did my brain nearly explode? Did I just get shot?". Very odd experience.

Good thing I've got a tough head.

:)

justatransgirl
06-20-2007, 03:55 AM
Gosh honey don't you watch the Discovery Channel?

Everyone knows the worlds most dangerous job is crab fishing in Alaska.

Although I guess being a TS hooker in a crab fishermen's bar in Alaska might be even more dangerous...

Seriously though, worldwide around 20-30 transsexuals, a majority being prostitutes are murdered each year for a variety of reasons. Including while in police custody...

As a transgendered person I personally feel in far more danger from the police and our government, than from the community at large.

Jessica and I have found nothing but acceptance wherever we go - though we do both "pass." I can imagine some people would have more trouble and in some areas. But we travel a lot of rural areas in the west - and we've even hooked up a couple of times while traveling at road motels - once in Medford Oregon and once in Kingman, AZ - which is about as conservative as it gets.

In my several years living full-time I've had two rude comments - both made by drunk homeless guys in a rough beach area of San Diego called Ocean Beach. Probably they were frustrated cause they couldn't afford me.

Jessica and I regularly travel to Tijuana - where last year 35 TS girls applied for assylum in the US because of death threats and harrassment by the TJ police.

So I would say the majority of the problems transgendered people face are not from homophobes, but from government, health care providers and LE, all of whom seem to thrive on treating TS's like shit.

Anyway, that's my thoughts on the topic.

Hugs,
TS Jamie

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-20-2007, 05:25 AM
Top 10 Most Dangerous Jobs

Do you work in a dangerous occupation? According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the top 10 most dangerous jobs are:

1. Timber cutters and loggers lead the pack with a mortality rate that is 30 times higher than that for normal jobs. Loggers are risk of being seriously hurt by heavy objects. Their jobs involve cutting, shaping, and moving heavy lumber. The fatality rate is a high 118 deaths every 100,000 people. Cuts, lacerations, sprains, torn ligaments and ruptured muscles are common occurrences even though logging companies try their best to maintain safety standards. High accident rates also mean more claims to pay for the companies.

2. Fishers and crabbers who work the Bering Sea operate in some of the most hostile environs on the planet. They are stressed for time as the crabbing season lasts only for a couple of weeks. The extreme cold can lead to such heavy ice formation that it can capsize the boat because of the extra weight. Knuckles and knees get busted regularly while working with the huge crab cages. The huge machinery and slippery decks often lead to cracked ribs and broken feet. A man overboard is as good as lost in the squally sub-zero conditions. The job reports around 87 fatalities for every 100,000 people.

3. Commercial pilots have a hazardous occupation where even a loose bolt can spell disaster. It is usually pilots managing the smaller aircraft, such as crop dusters, air-taxi pilots, and bush pilots, who are at a higher risk. The U.S average mortality rate for this job is around 70 deaths per 100,000 but the figure is much higher in Alaska where a pilot has almost 13% chance of dying on job in the course of a 30-year career. Most flying-related mishaps occur due to sudden changes in weather.

4. Construction workers/Ironworkers who climb several stories and work on narrow beams at great heights run the risk of fatal falls. Mishaps occur inspite of using safety harnesses and using safety gear. Working with heavy steel and iron equipment in cramped spaces requires concentration and inspite of taking precautions while welding, grinding, or buffing metal, injuries happen. Moreover, construction work often takes place in high-traffic areas and they are expected to wear high-visibility clothing and post warning signs, yet accidents do happen. This job reports around 48 deaths to every 100,000 workers.

5. Refuse collectors also make the list. Garbage collectors and those who work with recyclable materials are exposed to all kinds of threats – biological, mechanical, chemical, and even physical. There is a real hazard of an explosion in your face from an old battery or getting a nick from rusted blade and not noticing it till too late, or being exposed to disease-carrying vermin. Sadly, many avoidable fatalities occur when impatient motorists try to overtake or bypass garbage trucks and in the process hit the garbage-truck driver.

6. Farmers and ranchers have always had a hazardous job to do; earlier they had animals and the elements to contend with, now there is some heavy machinery to deal with as well. As with all hazardous jobs, inspite of all your precautions accidents will happen and very often for no fault of yours. The tractors and harvesters are a leading cause of non-highway vehicle accidents. Working with pesticides, bites and kicks from animals, working on top of silos and windmills are just a few of the hazards that farmers and ranchers face. Almost 38 fatalities every 100,000 workers is testimony to the strain of cultivating crops and rearing livestock.

7. Roofers are seventh in the list of dangerous jobs in America. They face bone-breaking falls from slippery sloping roofs or from the scaffolds and ladders that they employ. They also have to handle flammable and toxic materials, work near live electric wire, handle materials such as solvents, tar, pitch, and asbestos that are harmful to health, work in uncomfortable postures and lift heavy weights. 35 fatalities for every 100,000 workers.

8. Electrical power-line installers work with high-voltage lines that are high off the ground; they are at risk of injuries from falls and electric shock. The job also involves erecting heavy transmission towers. The labor covers activities such as soldering and brazing metals, decomposing fluoropolymers, and working with allergy-causing materials. There are around 30 fatalities for every 100,000 employed.

9. Drivers transporting goods and livestock are often fighting time as the quicker they finish one delivery more is the money to be made. Drivers spend a lot of time on the highways and run the risk of accidents. In fact, in terms of sheer numbers truckers report the highest fatality rates in the US but that’s because there are so many truckers. 28 fatalities out for every 100,000 workers.

10. Cab drivers and chauffeurs who ferry wealthy patrons and often also transfer cash run not only the usual risks on the road but also the risk of getting mugged. They operate alone and work till late in the night thereby increasing their vulnerability to attack. There are 24 fatalities for every 100,000 workers in this profession.

There has been a change in perception regarding hazardous jobs in the US post 9/11 and the anthrax scare. While earlier only 1 out of 6 felt that his job was dangerous; after 9/11 1 out of 4 respondents to a survey believed that they had a dangerous job. Foreigners in the workplace cause discomfort and people from waiters in eateries to employees with U.N are wary of Afghani colleagues and people of middle-eastern origin. Similarly, those handling packages have become more careful in handling packages in the wake of the anthrax scare. People are a little loath to travel if it means work-related flying or road travel. The risk perception has increased amongst those who would qualify as holding white-collar jobs.

There has been a massive change in how safety measures were implemented earlier and now. Precaution is the byword and employees across industries have undergone security training, safety training, and crisis training. These steps; however, have actually done little to assuage the fears of employees who say that these only serve to highlight the dangers that they were previously unaware of. The general feeling amongst the working populace in the US is that these precautions aren’t necessarily going to be effective and that they are having a negative effect on the productivity. All the same, the majority of those interviewed were not concerned about loss of privacy or freedom so long as it gave them security. The study found that women were more open to the idea of curtailed freedom as against men. Go here for an article with figures.

SOURCE: http://www.moneychump.org/?p=3

~Kisses.

HTG

Mr_Man
06-20-2007, 07:31 AM

NYTSJulie
06-20-2007, 07:45 AM
Its not dangerous, I carry a 9 millimeter, lol I am kidding or maybe I am not.

In all honesty most escorts know what they are doing. The trick on the other hand is walking into the escorts world, the escort is familiar with what to do if things get shady. It might be more risky for the trick.

As far as family and society....well I have a regular job and escort on the side. Not many people know about my escort life, and I keep that to myself.

NYTSJulie
06-20-2007, 07:49 AM
Also as far as LE, I found that if you know what you are doing and dont cause trouble they really dont come looking for you.

Ecstatic
06-20-2007, 02:23 PM
Hara, based on the first three items in your cited report (and I've seen these figures elsewhere), it seems that simply working in Alaska is extremely dangerous. :shock:

Though I think the job of suicide bomber is probably the world's most dangerous.

flabbybody
06-20-2007, 06:04 PM
I'm not sure about the part about clients being disturbed and self hating. most of us who go to ts escorts know exactly what we want and don't get too hung up on it. I'll agree with point about both straights and gays not understanding what this tranny/tranny chaser world is all about.
I don't, and I'm in it.

Rod la Rod
06-21-2007, 01:45 AM
Its not dangerous, I carry a 9 millimeter, lol I am kidding or maybe I am not.

In all honesty most escorts know what they are doing. The trick on the other hand is walking into the escorts world, the escort is familiar with what to do if things get shady. It might be more risky for the trick.

As far as family and society....well I have a regular job and escort on the side. Not many people know about my escort life, and I keep that to myself.

geekman33
07-19-2007, 11:57 PM
To NYTSJulie...

A 9 millimeter will only wound them. I use a 45 ACP. That usually blows a nice big hole in them and throws 'em back 30 feet. Any guy that tries to hurt a pretty girl like you deserves that kind of treatment :)

Jdeere562
07-20-2007, 12:44 AM
A 9 millimeter will only wound them. I use a 45 ACP. That usually blows a nice big hole in them and throws 'em back 30 feet.

And you sir, have been watching too much television. A handgun bullet makes a hole, and "if" you are lucky, the offender will fall over. One OZ slugs from a 12 GA shotgun at 1600 FPS, much more stopping power than a .45 ACP, will not throw a person back 5 feet, not to mention 30.

I've never shot a person and plan to keep it that way. Plenty of deer have fallen to my .44 Mag, again more powerful than a .45 ACP. Pretty much takes a head or spine shot to drop them in their tracks. Heart and lung shots, they run a ways normally before dropping. Same with the 12 GA slugs. At "best", they drop in their tracks.

BeardedOne
07-20-2007, 12:47 AM
To NYTSJulie...

A 9 millimeter will only wound them. I use a 45 ACP. That usually blows a nice big hole in them and throws 'em back 30 feet. Any guy that tries to hurt a pretty girl like you deserves that kind of treatment :)

I knew these two guys. One night, Guy One starts a row with Guy Two, saying that a .22 couldn't hurt a fly. Guy One is now dead, Guy Two is in for life, and Guy Three has to buy a new carpet. Yes, a .22 =can= hurt a fly and =more=.

I keep thinking back to the Ally McBeal episode where she is drafted as public defender to a transgendered street prostitute. The show is poigniant and well written and ends on a sad note. :(

Most dangerous? Who knows? :shrug But it's certainly no walk in the park.

Jdeere562
07-20-2007, 01:13 AM
[quote=geekman33]To NYTSJulie...
Yes, a .22 =can= hurt a fly and =more=.


You got that right BeardedOne. There are pellet guns capable of killing people with proper shot placement. I happen to own one. Heck, I don't even want shot in the butt with a weak, old Daisy BB gun! I own a 9 MM too, and don't feel much under-gunned in Wal-Mart at 4:00 AM with it on my side. (legal of course-I have a CCW)

Gotta love turning a prostitute thread into a gun thread. :wink:

BeardedOne
07-20-2007, 01:22 AM
Gotta love turning a prostitute thread into a gun thread.

Heh. Shame on us. :shrug

Hey, John Alec Hexum (Sp?) committed accidental suicide (Figure that one out) with a blank prop gun. :shock:

*Ahem* Still, being a TS escort is not the safest gig on the planet.

tonkatoy
07-20-2007, 01:55 AM
I found a place on line that sells BARs either semi-auto or full auto if you have a class three license


I want one.

Jdeere562
07-20-2007, 02:05 AM
I found a place on line that sells BARs either semi-auto or full auto if you have a class three license


I want one.

Those would be way too cool. Only a dream, I don't have a class three and have no plans of getting one. I DO have a couple semi-auto AK-47's, they are fun even in the boring form. I've never shot full-auto, but would imagine it would give me a stiffy!

PrincessaGianna
07-20-2007, 03:37 AM
Transsexual Prostitute: World's most dangerous job?


Now if u mix lifestyle into it, the drugs, booze, gangs etc. u will probably find a lot of deaths from od's and violence that is not directly related to the profession.



Gangs? Is there any tranny gangs out there? Because if there is... I wanna sign up! Oh and about the booze, my favorite drink is champagne, so if you see me out ever, feel free to buy me a drink ;-)

Watch out bitches! I am a tranny gangster!

whatsupwithat
07-20-2007, 04:13 AM
Yeah...it's pretty high up there even beyond all of the issues already talked about:

National HIV Prevention Conference
Atlanta, Georgia - Jun 12-15, 2005


STD/HIV TRANSMISSION ISSUES
AMONG TRANSGENDER COMMERCIAL SEX WORKERS


ISSUE: HIV/STD transmission issues within the TG (transgender) community are misunderstood not only by the general population but by the transgender individual themselves. HIV/STD’s are also increasing at an alarming rate within the TG community.

SETTING: HIV/STD transmission routes unique to the TG individual, issues in testing and receiving care, psychosocial issues of risk taking behavior.

IMPLICATIONS: The Transgender community is a largely diverse group. Within the TG community are particular sub-groups that are more at risk than others. MTF (male to female transgender) sex workers have high rates of HIV infection, with overall rates of 35% in San Francisco in 1997 and 22% in Los Angeles in 1998. A study of MTF sex workers in Atlanta found that 68% tested positive for HIV. Infections among MTFs continue to rise, with an estimated rate of new infections of 3-8% per year. Injection drug use is also visible among MTFs, again putting them at high risk for HIV. In a San Francisco study, 18% of the respondents reported non-hormonal injection drug use in the past six months and half of this group shared syringes. MTFs may inject female hormones in order to feminize their bodies, putting them again at increased risk. Transphobia, or the pervasive social stigmatization of MTFs, greatly exacerbates their HIV risk. This intense stigmatization results in their social marginalization, which includes the denial of educational, employment and housing opportunities. It also creates multiple barriers to accessing health care. Such marginalization lowers MTFs’ self esteem, increases the likelihood of survival sex work and lessens the likelihood of safer sex practices. All of this can lead to high rates of HIV, STDs, drug use and attempted suicide. Pre-GRS (genital reassignment surgery) MTFs primarily have sex with men and are likely to engage in receptive anal sex, which puts them at increased risk. Some MTF commercial sex workers are willing to not use condoms with their paying partners if they are offered more money however, some studies show that most unprotected sex occurs with primary partners, not paying partners. Psychosocial factors such as poverty, low self-esteem, depression, rejection, and powerlessness are cited by many MTFs as barriers to sexual and drug risk reduction. For example, many MTFs state that they engage in unprotected sex because it validates their female gender identity and boosts their self-esteem. Commercial sex is largely a means of survival. For many MTFs, securing employment and housing are more pressing issues than HIV and must be addressed before HIV prevention efforts can be effective. Many trans-gender individuals do not access HIV prevention or health services due to the insensitivity of service providers and health care staff or fear of being revealed as transgender.

Special thanks to: Transgender Advisory Committee to the AIDS Office and the San Francisco Department of Public Health, AIDS Office Kristen Clements, Kerrily Kitano, and Willy Wilkinson San Francisco County Jail (San Bruno), Tenderloin AIDS Resource Center, Tom Waddell Clinic And the Center for AIDS Prevention Studies at the University of California San Francisco.

Copyright notice: The National HIV Prevention Conference is collaborative effort by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a U.S. Government agency, and other governmental and non-government organizations. All abstracts published by the conference organizers are in the public domain and can be used without permission. Proper citation, however, is required.

chefmike
07-20-2007, 07:16 AM
"According to Lloyds in London, working on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier is one of the most dangerous jobs in the world."

"Insurance people make their money by measuring risks. Lloyds of London says that the deck of an aircraft carrier is the most dangerous working environment in the world, and it's not hard to see why. On the deck of a Nimitz -class carrier, there is constant motion among dozens of aircraft, fuel lines, catapults, jet blast deflectors, and arresting wires. The cats launch aircraft and the arresting wires catch landings in a rhythm that recovers one aircraft and launches another in the space of about sixty seconds. "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dangerous jobs? Been there, done that...

Mr_Man
07-20-2007, 07:30 AM
Transsexual Prostitute: World's most dangerous job?


Now if u mix lifestyle into it, the drugs, booze, gangs etc. u will probably find a lot of deaths from od's and violence that is not directly related to the profession.



Gangs? Is there any tranny gangs out there? Because if there is... I wanna sign up! Oh and about the booze, my favorite drink is champagne, so if you see me out ever, feel free to buy me a drink ;-)

Watch out bitches! I am a tranny gangster!


Watch it G, this is uncle T your talking to. lmao Yes there are tranny gangs and trannys in gangs, all over the world. Brazil, Costa Rica, and Columbia are a few places I can think of. I ain't buyin u no drink and I know u like champagne because I took like 30 bottles to the recycling center for you. lol

justatransgirl
07-20-2007, 09:27 AM
Though I think the job of suicide bomber is probably the world's most dangerous.

Or if not dangerous, certainly the most fatal...

Giggle,
TS Jamie

TJT
07-20-2007, 10:19 AM
I did some logging when I was young. I grew up way out in the sticks,it was one of the few jobs you could get around there. (The other choice was coal miner,I ain't goin' in a hole in the ground.)

The work was hard but it's not that bad if you're careful. The real danger is the jackasses your working with not knowing what they're doing/screwing around that gets you hurt.

tgirlzoe
07-21-2007, 12:22 AM
My grandfather, his brothers and other relatives were missing fingers from working in lumber mills. I've thought about doing it though, they're always hiring... (I wonder why :-D)

I wouldn't want to be a roofer. I don't like heights. At least working under houses, I can't fall far ^_^. I get all bruised and scratched up but it doesn't bother me. I wouldn't want to smash through a 240V line though, that'd wake you up (after it knocked you out)... I've never nailed myself or cut myself with a saw but it's a real possibility. I'd be surprised if I didn't eventually have a scar from this job.

It's better than working inside and you don't get too much of the elements if it's cold and rainy outside (which is today, lovely July... :-/) then it's warm and dry in the crawlspace.

I've seen the crab fishing show on Discovery Channel. I think it'd be interesting and exciting. I like pushing myself, I never thought I'd do anything like what I do now! I have known people who've gone up on the run to Alaska on a fishing boat. I have ethical concerns, however and I do like being able to take a warm shower and put on clean clothes at the end of the day.

SugaSweet
07-21-2007, 12:28 AM
Jesus,what a strange world we inhabit.

curious4TS07
07-21-2007, 12:54 AM
I spoke to a gurl about a week and a half ago and she mentioned that some guy a long time ago, literally put a gun to her head and told her to screw him up his ass. Why would anybody go that far? Man, that's scary.