Gay/Lesbian or Transgender role in the Trek Universe

[Legend]

I was watching DS9 and thought to myself that star trek has had almost every gender and race character in a major role be it via captain or second in command except for a gay/lesbian or transgender character in a major role well to be fair to trek has had many lesbian scenes and hinted to a couple of male characters being gay,you have to praise roddenberry for his efforts to put characters on his show regardless of their race or sexual orientation.

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White Male

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Older White Male

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African American Male

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White Female

Second In Command Characters
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African American Male

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Hispanic Male


Other minority chacters in Minor Roles
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African American Female

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African American Male

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Hispanic Female

So in theory a gay/lesbian or transgender character has to be next in line to be in a major role be it captain or second in command.

[BrendaQG]

Iinteresting.

I would figure that in the 24th century as shown in startrek the humans all seem to have a very liberal attitude about most things. So if a person is gay it would not show up in an obvious way.

In speaking of DS9 do you remember the episode where Quark for one of his schemes had to have a sex change? In 2400 I think that tech will have advanced considerably. All the transsexuals of that time would pass perfectly. Then there is Dr. Bashir himself. Many people read him as being gay/bi. He is not an ugly man yet he only expressed interest in a female once in all of those years.

[muhmuh]

doesnt q come off as rather gay? i never really watched tng but those few episodes i know he did seem very much gay

additionally there were quite a few gay undertones in the orirginal crew (which btw is the only one worth watching buy i digress) which were brilliantly spoofed by a german comedy trio

[Coroner]

doesnt q come off as rather gay? i never really watched tng but those few episodes i know he did seem very much gay

additionally there were quite a few gay undertones in the orirginal crew (which btw is the only one worth watching buy i digress) which were brilliantly spoofed by a german comedy trio

LOL yeah Q appears totally gay but he´s one of the coolest characters in the whole Star Trek universe.

I think it was last year when George Takei from the first Star Trek episodes had his coming-out.

Star Trek rules.

[Ecstatic]

Are you talking about characters or actors? Tuvok is Vulcan, not African-American, Chakotay is Native American, not Hispanic, and B'Elanna Torres is half-Klingon, half-Hispanic.

And then there's Dr. Phlox from Enterprise: while a hetero male Denobulan, his is an intriguing marital arrangement. As is the practice on Denobula, he has three wives, each of whom has two other husbands.

The most interesting species on TV sf as regards sex however must be the Centauri of Babylon 5: "The sexual organs of the Centauri are quite different from those of humans, and they are in a different location than the human sex organs. Male Centauri have six tentacle-like genital organs that extend out from the sides of the body and "fold" in over the solar plexus when not in use. The males can stretch the tentacles out to several feet. These tentacles are somewhat prehensile, to the extent that they can be used to cheat in card games. Females have six narrow receptive orifices, three on either side of the base of the spine, just above the hips. The male places the tentacles in the female orifices individually. Only one tentacle is necessary to inseminate, however." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centauri

[BlackAdder]

Paints a..ahem...interesting picture..



I dont think sexuality applies to the Q Continuum at all....when you can do whatever you want i think alot of human concepts lose all meaning.

[TomSelis]

DS9 was my favorite trek show. It was a little more gritty than the rest.

But you forgot to mention Dax, who was kind of a transexual. Before she changed bodies she was a man who was also Sisko's mentor. Which is why he always referred to her as "old man."

It was also a TNG episode where the Doctor fell in love with a guy that was about to change bodies. When he did his next body was a female.

[Edmund]

There have been a few. Phloz was mentioned. Lieutenant Hawk, the pilot in "First Contact" was gay. Elim Garak of DS9 may have been. Most of the mirror universe is bisexual in a general hedonistic way. And more than a couple one-off characters have been implied, etc.

Anyway, as I said, this was all 'implied'. Roddenberry wanted gays on the ship in TNG, but he died before any appeared. (Although season 2 villain Kivas Fajo is a possibility.) Since then, many have indicated, and Ronald Moore has blatantly stated that someone higher up the franchise food chain is keeping gays out of Starfleet. Many blame Rick Berman based on his elusive answers when asked about possible gay crew.

[tsntx]

wrong!!!!!!!!!! chakotay wasnt hispanic

he was native american indian


http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/VOY/cast/69080.html


and officer kim was asian decent you didnt put any ladyboys in this group... so heres one

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/VOY/cast/69087.html

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

amazing that the one definite homosexual trekker was not shown yet

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[Legend]

Actors racial background ecstatic,i stand corrected jen and ecstatic on chakotay's background i always thought he was hispanic even more diverse then i thought.

How could i have forgotten about kim and that guy from the original trek thanks for pointing that out jen and JBWL.

Intersting note you guys/girls specifically brenda you know doctor bashir could have been gay but a "gay gene" was supposley remove from him when he was being genetically altered as a kid.

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Julian Bashir

[Mac_Hine]

amazing that the one definite homosexual trekker was not shown yet

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/bensstartreksite/sulu3.jpg


Oh my!

[Mac_Hine]

There was that one episode of TNG where Riker fell in love with a sexually androgynous person. S/he was kinda cute.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

yo Mac you made my night ^5

[tsntx]

lolol the sulu gif. waving the sword is funny as hell!

[TJ347]

Then there is Dr. Bashir himself. Many people read him as being gay/bi. He is not an ugly man yet he only expressed interest in a female once in all of those years.

Incorrect! He expressed an interest in Dax (both Jadzia and Ezri) of course, but also got involved briefly with that girl (Sarah?) who had been genetically modified like himself, but had as a result of the procedure been rendered autistic. You may recall the episode where she became fully functional as the result of medical advances brought about by Bashir and "Jack" (the hyperactive genetically modified guy she hung out with, in addition to Patrick and some woman who was ultra-horny or whatever) and ultimately decided to leave DS9 despite Bashir's efforts to convince her to stay. Bashir also flirted with Leeta regularly, and seemed to also have more than a little interest in Kira until she and Odo got more serious. At no time did he ever express any interest in men, so I can't see where him being gay or bi comes from, outside of his decidedly British accent and mannerisms...

[BrendaQG]

So that's what Three or four women in 7 years.

In the mean time he spends so much time with Chief Engineer Miles Obrien . Obrien spent more time with him than he did with his wife. His general demeanor and...how he acted was like so many gay/bi men I have seen. If he was a real person I would be surprised if he wasn't that's all I'm saying.

It was raised that he was genetically altered to be "perfect". Well consider that being gay might not have been seen as a total defect. Genes interact in complex ways. Being gay means that YOU are less likely to have children in exchange gay people seem to have more of certain creative talents (from arts to sciences). Look at it that way.

I am sure it is possible to be both hispanic and Native America. i.e. 60% of mexicans have some part Native ancestry. It would be more correct to call Chakotay a Chicano, I think .

[Ecstatic]

I am sure it is possible to be both hispanic and Native America. i.e. 60% of mexicans have some part Native ancestry. It would be more correct to call Chakotay a Chicano, I think .
Yes, but the character always identified himself as an Indian (South American iirc).

[BrendaQG]

So be it.

On topic.

The gayest characters in Star Trek have to be the founders of the dominion. Shape shifters who could take on any role they choose and spent most of their time all commingled together on their home planet.

[ARMANIXXX]

So that's what Three or four women in 7 years.

In the mean time he spends so much time with Chief Engineer Miles Obrien . Obrien spent more time with him than he did with his wife. His general demeanor and...how he acted was like so many gay/bi men I have seen. If he was a real person I would be surprised if he wasn't that's all I'm saying.


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But, you wouldn't need a woman, or even a man either if you had a holodeck Brenda.

;)

[the Adrienne Barbeaubot]

I hafta go along with you on that one Brenda. The shapeshifters are and could be any gender they wish to be. TREK RULES!

[Edmund]

So be it.

On topic.

The gayest characters in Star Trek have to be the founders of the dominion. Shape shifters who could take on any role they choose and spent most of their time all commingled together on their home planet.

But Odo couldn't mingle. Did that mean he had SPACE-AIDS?

Incidentally, there were a few AIDS allegories that got scrapped.

[BrendaQG]

Yeah Odo was infected by starfleet with a virus he was supposed to pass on to the other shapeshifters. To kill them all.

Yeah star trek had all kinds of sex in it. Never seen a toilet though. Bathing, but no one was ever in the bathroom when they were called on their communicator.

Just Imagine.

Capt' Picard: Bridge to Commander Riker...

Intercom: Thooouuullelll (sound of pissing). :lol:

[the Adrienne Barbeaubot]

:lol:

[alpha2117]

In the books there is a series done by Peter David i think with a differnt ship and a few minor characters from the next gen seies (Robyn Lefler) one of the characters is hermaphroditic and has sex with both male and female characters in the books.

The series is New Frontier and I believe the character is Burgoyne 172