Why Do Post Ops Make The Decision

[62des]

I need opinions from both sides, post and pre-ops.

1. What makes a transexual want to go all the way and get SRS? Do you not feel woman enough if you didn't? Did you not get enough pleasure from having a penis?

^ I ask this question because I seena documentary on a transexual that said she didn't feel complete unless "every trace of her being a man was gone."

2. What makes a transexual decided to keep their penis? Do you feel that it gives a sense of power or domination?

[peggygee]

I need opinions from both sides, post and pre-ops.

1. What makes a transexual want to go all the way and get SRS? Do you not feel woman enough if you didn't? Did you not get enough pleasure from having a penis?

^ I ask this question because I seena documentary on a transexual that said she didn't feel complete unless "every trace of her being a man was gone."

2. What makes a transexual decided to keep their penis? Do you feel that it gives a sense of power or domination?

Filed by my assistant, this is a re-post to a similiar question.

If you read it before, skip it. :shrug

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I will only speak for myself personally.

When I was a pre op I did not top men nor enjoy them
performing oral sex upon me.

I believe this was due to two reasons, the first was that
physically it did not feel good to me.

Inserting my penis in an anus tended to hurt my penis.
And though I had vaginal sex on occasion I found that
also made my penis hurt.

Oral sex performed on me was also painful and uncomfortable.

But for me what far outweighed the physical pain that I
experienced was the perception in my mind that it made
me less feminine, less of a woman.

I guess I subscribed to the traditional role of the women
as the receptive partner.

As I have often stated the mind is the ultimate sexual organ,
thus if it caused discomfort in my mind then my body would
not find the experience pleasurable.

Now as a post op, the mental component remains the same,
in that I feel if I use a strap on with a man that diminishes
my feminity. As well as that fact that a strap on would not
give me any pleasure, unless we are talking about the type
that stimulates the vagina at the same time that it is penetrating
my partner.

Finally, I also feel that my personal insecurities would not allow me
to be with a man that enjoyed being topped as I would always
be fearful that he would be seeking something from others
that I couldn't provide.

Upon analysis, interstingly for all of my willingness to indulge in
a fairly wide variety of sexual experiences on many things it
does indeed appear as if I am fairly inhibited, at least as regards
this area.

I knew this about myself, but thanks everyone for helping me to
articulate it to myself. 8)

[peggygee]

I may have this tatooed on my butt.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/perfect_tatoocrop4x6.jpg

"Cause, I ain't too crazy about anything
up the ass either"

Damn post ops, ain't no fucken fun.http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/smiley-faces1-1.gif

[peggygee]

As may be known many girls are not on the best terms
with their penises.

Many was the day or even week that I would avoid contact
with my penis except to wash it during bathing and such.

Upon coming out of the shower I would try not to look in
that area, preferring to as quickly as possible to 'tuck' it
into my panties, where it was out of siight out of mind.

As to sex, as much as possible I would avoid touching
it or having my partner touch it. When I needed to
have a sexual release I would try to have as much
fore-play in other areas so that when I finally did
masturbate to release my contact time was
minimized.

Prior to having the orchiectomy was a difficult time
for me. For before HRT my penis had a mind of it's
own and was fairly large.

With HRT my penis started to behave itself. And with
orchiechtomy the size became somewhat more
manageable. There were no involuntary erections
and the penis and scrotum were easier to tuck.

For those that say that we have thrown our penises away
or chopped them off I would point out that really isn't true.

What has happened is the penis has been turned inside out
forming the lining of my vagina. And my scrotum has been used
for the labia majora - the lips of my vagina. The tip of my penis
the most sensitive part of the penis has become the clitoris.

Thus it was not a destruction or throwing away of something that
has been with you all your life but rather converting it into
something that mentally is not in conflict with how you feel
you should be.

Again, I would like to thank folks for listening. And also I hope that
this will provide some further insight into the minds of women
who feel compelled to SRS.

And for the haters, beverages will be served. :wink:


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[londonrussianblond]

As may be known many girls are not on the best terms
with their penises.

Many was the day or even week that I would avoid contact
with my penis except to wash it during bathing and such.

Upon coming out of the shower I would try not to look in
that area, preferring to as quickly as possible to 'tuck' it
into my panties, where it was out of siight out of mind.

As to sex, as much as possible I would avoid touching
it or having my partner touch it. When I needed to
have a sexual release I would try to have as much
fore-play in other areas so that when I finally did
masturbate to release my contact time was
minimized.

Prior to having the orchiectomy was a difficult time
for me. For before HRT my penis had a mind of it's
own and was fairly large.

With HRT my penis started to behave itself. And with
orchiechtomy the size became somewhat more
manageable. There were no involuntary erections
and the penis and scrotum were easier to tuck.

For those that say that we have thrown our penises away
or chopped them off I would point out that really isn't true.

What has happened is the penis has been turned inside out
forming the lining of my vagina. And my scrotum has been used
for the labia majora - the lips of my vagina. The tip of my penis
the most sensitive part of the penis has become the clitoris.

Thus it was not a destruction or throwing away of something that
has been with you all your life but rather converting it into
something that mentally is not in conflict with how you feel
you should be.

Again, I would like to thank folks for listening. And also I hope that
this will provide some further insight into the minds of women
who feel compelled to SRS.

And for the haters, beverages will be served. :wink:


http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/hatorade55.jpgwell i can only speak for myself too!! i had my srs at 18 years old,, and i was a virgin when i had my sexchange. i hated having a penis between my legs,, it disgusted me,,, but thats me,, my body,, my mind,, i always knew i wanted a pussy there!! i NEVER masterbated,, or even looked at myself naked at that time,,, now youd have a hard job getting me to put clothes on lol!!! but thats my case,,, i no everyones different,,

[62des]

This is interesting. Thank you for your time. Any pre-op opinions?

[TheGuard]

You'll certainly get some wonderful and...interesting opinions here, but if you're really serious I'd suggest reading up on gender dysmorphia in psych journals, there are some great case studies out there and while the field is divided (like everything seems to be at all times) they seem to be understanding more and more about transsexualism each year, and quite honestly it's intriguing if a bit stifled by certain conservatives within the field (I'm a self loathing Republican myself - but rather the other kinda of stodgy conservativism)

[ARMANIXXX]

Interesting.


peggygee,

if you don't mind me asking you,

as a pre op, Were you circumcised?

[justatransgirl]

Gender Reassignment has little to do with sex. Though there is a relation, which others have eloquently mentioned.

Reading this site you get a skewed view of transgendered people as many on here are involved in teh sex industry in one manner or another.

It's not about feeling woman "enough." Women don't have penises.

And no, most TS's I've met, who are interested in SRS surgery don't like having sex with their penis. Because they weren't supposed to have one in the first place.

Why do TS's keep their penis?

Because they are female TRANSSEXUALS, not genetic women, and they are comfortable with that.

Because many TS's DO enjoy sex with a penis.

Because they don't have the $$ to do anything about it.

Because it's their money maker so they delay their operations in order to eat.

TS Jamie

[NINgirl25]

Gender Reassignment has little to do with sex. Though there is a relation, which others have eloquently mentioned.

Reading this site you get a skewed view of transgendered people as many on here are involved in teh sex industry in one manner or another.

It's not about feeling woman "enough." Women don't have penises.

And no, most TS's I've met, who are interested in SRS surgery don't like having sex with their penis. Because they weren't supposed to have one in the first place.

Why do TS's keep their penis?

Because they are female TRANSSEXUALS, not genetic women, and they are comfortable with that.

Because many TS's DO enjoy sex with a penis.

Because they don't have the $$ to do anything about it.

Because it's their money maker so they delay their operations in order to eat.

TS Jamie

"because i dont have the $$ to do anything about it" sums it up for me.
i'd use it to make money, but i wouldnt really know how to go about doing that. :(

[MrsKellyPierce]

To me it's about feeling whole. You would feel whole on the outside a woman as you are in the inside, however if you don't have this yearning. Then you aren't any less than a woman. It's what you are comfortable with and what makes you feel complete.

[xfiver]

To me it's about feeling whole. You would feel whole on the outside a woman as you are in the inside, however if you don't have this yearning. Then you aren't any less than a woman. It's what you are comfortable with and what makes you feel complete.

Huh? Is that engrish?

Do you feel complete making up stories about yourself and misleading those that have no idea you are a complete ruse?

Or is it the fake websites and pictures and alter egos you created to give yourself praise that make you feel complete?

Please specify.

Links provided upon request for those who haven't done their homework.

love, xfiver

[peggygee]

Interesting.


peggygee,

if you don't mind me asking you,

as a pre op, Were you circumcised?


Circumsized at birth.

And anal, vaginal, and oral
sex, still hurt like the 'dickens'.

Both in the big head,
and the little head.

:shrug

[peggygee]

You'll certainly get some wonderful and...interesting opinions here, but if you're really serious I'd suggest reading up on gender dysmorphia in psych journals, there are some great case studies out there and while the field is divided (like everything seems to be at all times) they seem to be understanding more and more about transsexualism each year, and quite honestly it's intriguing if a bit stifled by certain conservatives within the field (I'm a self loathing Republican myself - but rather the other kinda of stodgy conservativism)

Body Dysmorphic Disorder, (BDD) is listed in the DSM-IV under somatization disorders, but clinically, it seems to have similarities to Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

BDD is a preoccupation with an imagined physical defect in appearance or a vastly exaggerated concern about a minimal defect. The preoccupation must cause significant impairment in the individual’s life. The individual thinks about his or her defect for at least an hour per day.

The individual’s obsessive concern most often is concerned with facial features, hair or odor. The disorder often begins in adolescence, becomes chronic and leads to a great deal of internal suffering.

The person may fear ridicule in social situations, and may consult many dermatologists or plastic surgeons and undergo painful or risky procedures to try to change the perceived defect. The medical procedures rarely produce relief. Indeed they often lead to a worsening of symptoms. BDD may limit friendships. Obsessive ruminations about appearance may make it difficult to concentrate on schoolwork.

Other behaviors that may be associated with BDD

Frequent glancing in reflective surfaces
Skin picking
Avoiding mirrors
Repeatedly measuring or palpating the defect
Repeated requests for reassurance about the defect.
Elaborate grooming rituals.
Camouflaging some aspect of one’s appearance with one’s hand, a hat, or makeup.
Repeated touching of the defect
Avoiding social situations where the defect might be seen by others.
Anxiety when with other people.
BDD tends to be chronic and can lead to social isolation, school dropout major depression, unnecessary surgery and even suicide.

http://www.ncpamd.com/body_dysmorphic_disorder.htm


Gender dysphoria: This is a medical term for feeling unhappy with your current gender (masculinity/femininity), which is in conflict with your physical sex. Many of us have mild feelings like this from time to time, but some people can be tormented by gender dysphoria for years on end.

http://www.thesite.org/sexandrelationships/sexuality/awareness/transvestismandtranssexualism