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Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 01:34 AM
Timely thread to do since I've recently encountered a few haters (sourgrapes) here on HA. I'm sure some of you can relate.

Questions?:

Why do men hate women or transexuals?

Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?

Why do transexuals hate on men?


Fill in the blanks as to why? And is there a clear purpose/vested interest to hating people?

~Kisses.

HTG

downblow
06-04-2007, 01:48 AM
Timely thread to do since I've recently encountered a few haters (sourgrapes) here on HA. I'm sure some of you can relate.

Questions?:

Why do men hate women or transexuals?

Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?

Why do transexuals hate on men?


Fill in the blanks as to why? And is there a clear purpose/vested interest to hating people?

~Kisses.

HTG

Why do men hate women or transexuals?
Some type of drama they haven't let go of yet.

Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?
Jealousy

Why do transexuals hate on men?
Mistrust in men. I had one very popular t-girl tell me once that it is hard to trust men because they never know if the guy is a chaser or sincere. Which sucks because being from toronto and same sex marriage is legal here you'd think there would be more t-girls getting married.

Alison Faraday
06-04-2007, 01:52 AM
Why do men hate women or transexuals?
At a guess I'd say it's to do with social values and peer pressure. You can get the most bigotted guy on his own and he's really quite intelligent and curious. But the moment he returns to the group he will not risk his image for you or anyone.

Girls grow up into women. Boys grow up to be big boys.


Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?
I'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt but in my own experience far too many transsexuals are just raving lunartics. It's almost as if they're damaged in some way and to such an extent. To be honest I'm not quite sure on this one. There's only a very few transsexual friends I have, as most transsexuals I wouldn't trust as far as I could spit. I'm just in this to be me. As for why they're in this, well, world domination maybe? I've given up trying to understand.


Why do transexuals hate on men?There's very few men I trust, but again, everyone gets the benefit of the doubt. I just kind of resent being treated as an object of sexual fantasy while having a cup of fucking tea in the local tea rooms. Some guys are ok yes, but some really do have a reason why they can't find a girlfriend. And they then think that TSs clearly understand them because they *used* to be men, and are so desperate for sex as we never ever got the chance.


Fill in the blanks as to why? And is there a clear purpose/vested interest to hating people?I wouldn't say that I hate anyone really, it's such a final and ugly word. Everyone gets the benefit of the doubt no matter who they are. And then a few more chances after that. Life's too short. I can have a blazing argument with someone and be deeply insulted, yet am small enough to accept that we all say the wrong things. I do not see myself as more important or deserving than anyone else, all that separates us are our stories and achievements. Conversation and strength of character is everything in my book. I like believable people. Oh, and manners are important too. They cost nothing.

In the end though. I don't take myself or other people too seriously. "Ok well bye then whatever your name is," I said to someone last week. They clearly had a very high opinion of themselves so were deeply insulted strutting off in a huff. ;) God that one was easy.

downblow
06-04-2007, 02:06 AM
Why do men hate women or transexuals?
At a guess I'd say it's to do with social values and peer pressure. You can get the most bigotted guy on his own and he's really quite intelligent and curious. But the moment he returns to the group he will not risk his image for you or anyone.

Girls grow up into women. Boys grow up to be big boys.


Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?
I'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt but in my own experience far too many transsexuals are just raving lunartics. It's almost as if they're damaged in some way and to such an extent. To be honest I'm not quite sure on this one. There's only a very few transsexual friends I have, as most transsexuals I wouldn't trust as far as I could spit. I'm just in this to be me. As for why they're in this, well, world domination maybe? I've given up trying to understand.


Why do transexuals hate on men?There's very few men I trust, but again, everyone gets the benefit of the doubt. I just kind of resent being treated as an object of sexual fantasy while having a cup of fucking tea in the local tea rooms. Some guys are ok yes, but some really do have a reason why they can't find a girlfriend. And they then think that TSs clearly understand them because they *used* to be men, and are so desperate for sex as we never ever got the chance.


Fill in the blanks as to why? And is there a clear purpose/vested interest to hating people?I wouldn't say that I hate anyone really, it's such a final and ugly word. Everyone gets the benefit of the doubt no matter who they are. And then a few more chances after that. Life's too short. I can have a blazing argument with someone and be deeply insulted, yet am small enough to accept that we all say the wrong things. I do not see myself as more important or deserving than anyone else, all that separates us are our stories and achievements. Conversation and strength of character is everything in my book. I like believable people. Oh, and manners are important too. They cost nothing.

In the end though. I don't take myself or other people too seriously. "Ok well bye then whatever your name is," I said to someone last week. They clearly had a very high opinion of themselves so were deeply insulted strutting off in a huff. ;) God that one was easy.

Alison your beauty is only dwarfed by your heart and intelligence.
I hope i'm lucky enough to have a wife with your qualities one day.
Though i do take some offense to the "big boys" theory you wrote :lol:
Meanie :cry:

hondarobot
06-04-2007, 02:12 AM
Q: Why do people hate in general?

A: Fear.

Lots of irrational things freak me out, but I've never been afraid of people. I guess I would make an exception in the case of some big, crazy mother fucker intent on kicking my ass, but I'd just throw sand in his eyes and whack him with a board or something.

Fear (and ignorance, and I suppose greed) is why people hate.

I don't understand it either. I just keep being a decent and honest guy, personally. That's really all a person can do.

Jericho
06-04-2007, 02:17 AM
Fill in the blanks as to why?

Insecurity :shrug

Alison Faraday
06-04-2007, 02:18 AM
Alison your beauty is only dwarfed by your heart and intelligence.
I hope i'm lucky enough to have a wife with your qualities one day.
Though i do take some offense to the "big boys" theory you wrote :lol:
Meanie :cry:

awww shucks :oops:

Naaa, I'm not so set in my ways. I'll probably write something completely different next week. I do believe though that each of us has our God's gifts.

We all have our qualities but in some ways the world tries to make us good at the things that we're clearly not good at, and to knock us down when we excel.

As for jealously. My weakness is that I get deeply sad as it's substitute. It can be quite self destructive. Another weakness is low self esteem. I want the answers and to find my success. I don't know.

Hey, I take back what I said about big boys, but you know what I mean though ;) Just look around tomorrow. There's a few men about.

Vala_TS
06-04-2007, 02:24 AM
1. Because it threatens most guys' masculenity.

2. Jeleousness, mainly if others girls look better than them.

3. Because most guys treat women like crap, so that's just doubled for transexuals.

Vala,

TJ347
06-04-2007, 02:24 AM
Girls grow up into women. Boys grow up to be big boys.

Really now? I could give a couple examples of where that isn't the case without leaving the confines of this board, but 'll leave that one alone, lest the flames of hell be loosed upon me immediately and unmercifully. On second thought, you're right on the girls to women thing. But tell me, who grows up into ladies?


in my own experience far too many transsexuals are just raving lunartics.

Co-sign, based on my limited experiences. 'Nuff said on that.

As far as all the other stuff people said in relation to Hara's questions, I agree with downblow, but would add to what he said that a number of tgirls I've met write you off as a chaser before they give you the time of day... a self-fulfilling prophecy then.

SpoogeMonkey
06-04-2007, 02:33 AM
Why do men hate women or transexuals?

Not all men. The ones who do are bascially terrified, too insecure that they feel they may be 'conned' into bed by what they see as a man with breasts.

Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?

I cannot answer this. I am not a transexual. I can only guess its some form of subconscious jealousy formed from wanting so desperately to be accepted by 'society' (yuk.. hate that word) that the fight they have had may be being bettered by someone else and they fucking hate that fact.

Or

It could be that they have nicer, more expensive shoes than them .

(see what I did there.. all for the shoe joke) :wink:

Why do transexuals hate on men?
Men are sexual beasts. Wanting a quick jump. Not love. A quick jump. A shag. Maybe we just toss off, but as a man I think of sex all the time. Its just those crazy male hormones in me. Some men have it bad and are on heat 24/7. Some men have it under control.

Its something that only years of testosterone inhibiting drugs being poured into the water systems will ever nullify. The sooner any woman realises a man is just interested in a bit of action and they deal with it in the right way ("piss off".. rather than start some hate campaign) the better.

It saddens me when I read that some transexuals think men are evil or scum because they follow their natural instinct.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not counting those fruitcakes who attack women if they say no.. they ARE scum and deserve to have their knackers removed by a rabid badger.

downblow
06-04-2007, 02:38 AM
Alison your beauty is only dwarfed by your heart and intelligence.
I hope i'm lucky enough to have a wife with your qualities one day.
Though i do take some offense to the "big boys" theory you wrote :lol:
Meanie :cry:

awww shucks :oops:

Naaa, I'm not so set in my ways. I'll probably write something completely different next week. I do believe though that each of us has our God's gifts.

We all have our qualities but in some ways the world tries to make us good at the things that we're clearly not good at, and to knock us down when we excel.

As for jealously. My weakness is that I get deeply sad as it's substitute. It can be quite self destructive. Another weakness is low self esteem. I want the answers and to find my success. I don't know.

Hey, I take back what I said about big boys, but you know what I mean though ;) Just look around tomorrow. There's a few men about.

Well one of the qualities i like about you is that you are willing to make others happy. You don't know me from adam but your willing to take back what you said in order to make me feel better. That's an amazing quality right there. You are obviously very smart and know your faults and insecurities which shows how much intelligence you have. Some will dwell in a non-reality state avoiding their issues. That won't help them deal with the problems.

As for your weaknesses...................you should never have low self esteem. You are so beautiful and have such great qualities, why would you have such low selfesteem? Is there a person in your live that is causing this? Also why do you feel so sad? You have so much more than others, plus you have so many admirers who'd give their left arm to have you as a girlfriend or wife even. Not my business i know, just don't want to see you sad or with low self esteem.

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 02:41 AM
Great interesting replies that seems unified in answers.

1. Guys hate on women and or transexuals because most men undermines her intelligence. Thinking his goodlooks, dick size and well placed compliments will soon CHARM into having you bending over for him in a matter of seconds into talking is INSULTING.

2. Transexuals hate on fellow transexuals because of ENVY especially if you slightly look decent and prettier than them. Also GREED, because lets fucking face it..most transexuals are nymphomaniacs..they want all the hot men to themselves! Sorry but I'm just stating the facts.

3. Transexuals hate men because most (not all) men think with their dicks first. And just wants to get into your pants the minute they talk with you.


Here's some additional to my origial thread topic:

The Why Do People Hate You? Test

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take

Here's my results:


Your Score: The perfect human.
19 Cruelty, 41 Anal, 26 Pushover

Congratulations. You're easy-going, friendly and know when to stand up for yourself. You're perfect. In fact, you're a little bit too perfect. Chances are, hoards of jealous people are plotting your demise at you read this. Tough luck, pal.

My test tracked 3 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

You scored higher than 55% on Cruelty

You scored higher than 64% on Anal

You scored higher than 45% on Pushover

~Kisses.

HTG

SpoogeMonkey
06-04-2007, 02:42 AM
Oi Faraday. NO!!!

Stop worrying about others and look at what you've got. You are a foxy babe and you have to answer to nobody. Get out there and grow and dont turn into a morose hag.

A wise man once told me something really important. For now I cant actually remember it but I say, fuck anyone and everyone. When the dust settles on your grave nobody will give a shit anyway. So you may as well do what makes you happy.

:twisted:

Ecstatic
06-04-2007, 02:48 AM
Why do men hate women or transexuals?
Those that do, do so often from their own fear and insecurity about their sexuality. That's too simple an answer, and I'm sure there are many other factors, but it seems the bottom line.


Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?
Can't honestly say, not being ts myself, but as others have pointed out, jealousy seems to be a common cause. Also, there's hatred or at least intolerance for different types of transgenders to other types (TS on TV, CD on TS, etc.).


Why do transexuals hate on men?
I suspect there are two major camps here: those who are involved in the sex industry in some fashion (porn, escorting) who hate that men see them only as sexual objects (even though their livelihood depends on this very factor), coupled with the fact that most men seek such women out for the one thing that many (note: I do not presume all or even most) hate about themselves (and I don't have to spell that out, I'm sure). Then there are those who are the silent majority of TS women, who are not involved in the sex industry at all, but who hate not being accepted as the women they are inside. The discrepancy between their socially and biologically assigned gender and their innate gender causes this rift.

SpoogeMonkey
06-04-2007, 02:56 AM
Women are sexual objects to men. Everyday I see women walking down the street and I am thinking "corrr.... I'd love to have sex with her".

I dont actually have the balls or the inclination to act upon it as I am not some casanova, or would I believe most women are thinking about having sex with some twat like me.

Then again I walk down the street and wonder what it would be like if I suddenly saw a flesh eating Zombie coming out of Marks and Sparks...

CORVETTEDUDE
06-04-2007, 03:10 AM
Hara_Juku, The answers to your questions are very simple. it's the solution that perplexes even the most intelligent of our race. Fear and Prejudice are the roots of all this hatred. We all suffer from it, in one respect, or another. As hard as we try, some things are so deeply seeded, we will take it to the next world with us. The list of fears is infinite, and the list of prejudices is just as distressing. I spent 26 years in an organization whose very existance is based on those two factors. Without them, no hatred, no discremination, no greed, no starving children, no wars and no need for guys trained to do what I did. I have to live with the personal responsibility of taking countless lives, because of those two factors, but in the name of Freedom. My hatred and prejudice lies with that sickness in the human race. Those two things WILL lead to the total dessimation of this society. Should we continue our present path, WE WILL DESERVE IT!
Sorry for ranting.

LG
06-04-2007, 03:25 AM
Great interesting replies that seems unified in answers.

1. Guys hate on women and or transexuals because most men undermines her intelligence. Thinking his goodlooks, dick size and well placed compliments will soon CHARM into having you bending over for him in a matter of seconds into talking is INSULTING.

2. Transexuals hate on fellow transexuals because of ENVY especially if you slightly look decent and prettier than them. Also GREED, because lets fucking face it..most transexuals are nymphomaniacs..they want all the hot men to themselves! Sorry but I'm just stating the facts.

3. Transexuals hate men because most (not all) men think with their dicks first. And just wants to get into your pants the minute they talk with you.


Here's some additional to my origial thread topic:

The Why Do People Hate You? Test

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take

Here's my results:


Your Score: The perfect human.
19 Cruelty, 41 Anal, 26 Pushover

Congratulations. You're easy-going, friendly and know when to stand up for yourself. You're perfect. In fact, you're a little bit too perfect. Chances are, hoards of jealous people are plotting your demise at you read this. Tough luck, pal.

My test tracked 3 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

You scored higher than 55% on Cruelty

You scored higher than 64% on Anal

You scored higher than 45% on Pushover

~Kisses.

HTG

Interesting points all round. I can't really sleep, so I thought I might have a look.

My simple answer would "People hate because they're assholes" but obviously such a simplistic answer isn't quite satisfactory...

I think some guys hate the girls because they feel they've been rejected by them. I've seen it often.

As for transsexuals hating other transsexuals, it might be a case of jealousy, but I'm only guessing. Are transsexuals really nymphomaniacs, Hara? I gotta get me on the plane to America. :wink:

In the case of the girls hating the guys, I think once you've been trodden on you become pretty wary of people. A bad experience with one guy will make a TS think that every guy's an asshole.

Anyway, I'm too tired to go into this, but I found the test here Hara (the link you gave is incomplete): http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=7469754626913510072
My score is below. Seems like I'm a pretty decent guy after all.

And to all the girls: please have confidence in yourselves. You have more power and influence over us all than you think.

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 03:25 AM
Women are sexual objects to men. Everyday I see women walking down the street and I am thinking "corrr.... I'd love to have sex with her".

You'd be surprised to know that transwomen also do the same thing SpoogeMonkey. It's sorta like a "scale" to hotness to feeding their ego's. I just call it false selfworth. ;)


Hara_Juku, The answers to your questions are very simple. it's the solution that perplexes even the most intelligent of our race. Fear and Prejudice are the roots of all this hatred.

I suppose you're quite right CORVETTEDUDE. Prejudice is such an unjust and irrational attitude for one to have against an individual, group, race, or their supposed characteristics.

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 03:37 AM
Anyway, I'm too tired to go into this, but I found the test here Hara (the link you gave is incomplete): http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=7469754626913510072
My score is below. Seems like I'm a pretty decent guy after all.

And to all the girls: please have confidence in yourselves. You have more power and influence over us all than you think.

Opp's! Sorry LG..I'm tired and still actually at work..but not for long! LOL :P

~Kisses.

HTG

yodajazz
06-04-2007, 03:43 AM
Q: Why do people hate in general?

A: Fear.

Lots of irrational things freak me out, but I've never been afraid of people. I guess I would make an exception in the case of some big, crazy mother fucker intent on kicking my ass, but I'd just throw sand in his eyes and whack him with a board or something.

Fear (and ignorance, and I suppose greed) is why people hate.

I don't understand it either. I just keep being a decent and honest guy, personally. That's really all a person can do.

There are a variety of reasons for hate, and no one here is wrong. But I have to put myself in the ‘fear camp’ is being the most important reason. But I will go further and say that the fear is really of ourselves. The person that the hater hates is really the darkside of themselves, or at least they believe to be darkside, deep down. Someone hates you because they fear losing control of themselves to what you represent to them. So the other parts of themselves fight to remain in control by erecting a wall of hate. But on the other side of the wall, are really other parts of themselves.

So this would apply to all the categories that you mentioned. I will try to elaborate further later. I'm off to my gig.

muhmuh
06-04-2007, 03:44 AM
somehow the score calc sounds wrong to me

22 Cruelty, 45 Anal, 19 Pushover

Congratulations. You're easy-going, friendly and know when to stand up for yourself. You're perfect. In fact, you're a little bit too perfect. Chances are, hoards of jealous people are plotting your demise at you read this. Tough luck, pal.

My test tracked 3 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:


You scored higher than 99% on Cruelty

You scored higher than 99% on Anal

You scored higher than 99% on Pushover

Vala_TS
06-04-2007, 04:43 AM
38 Cruelty, 45 Anal, 30 Pushover
Congratulations. You're easy-going, friendly and know when to stand up for yourself. You're perfect. In fact, you're a little bit too perfect. Chances are, hoards of jealous people are plotting your demise at you read this. Tough luck, pal.

My test tracked 3 variables How you compared to other people your age and gender:

You scored higher than 99% on Cruelty

You scored higher than 99% on Anal

You scored higher than 99% on Pushover

TJ347
06-04-2007, 05:47 AM
Congratulations. You're easy-going, friendly and know when to stand up for yourself. You're perfect. In fact, you're a little bit too perfect. Chances are, hoards of jealous people are plotting your demise at you read this. Tough luck, pal.

Has anybody gotten a different response? Jeez...

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 06:08 AM
LOL Im wondering the same TJ347. :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 06:20 AM
Q: Why do people hate in general?

A: Fear.

Lots of irrational things freak me out, but I've never been afraid of people. I guess I would make an exception in the case of some big, crazy mother fucker intent on kicking my ass, but I'd just throw sand in his eyes and whack him with a board or something.

Fear (and ignorance, and I suppose greed) is why people hate.

I don't understand it either. I just keep being a decent and honest guy, personally. That's really all a person can do.

There are a variety of reasons for hate, and no one here is wrong. But I have to put myself in the ‘fear camp’ is being the most important reason. But I will go further and say that the fear is really of ourselves. The person that the hater hates is really the darkside of themselves, or at least they believe to be darkside, deep down. Someone hates you because they fear losing control of themselves to what you represent to them. So the other parts of themselves fight to remain in control by erecting a wall of hate. But on the other side of the wall, are really other parts of themselves.

So this would apply to all the categories that you mentioned. I will try to elaborate further later. I'm off to my gig.

Hmm..Interesting thoughts yodajazz. I'm waiting to hear the rest! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

LG
06-04-2007, 06:36 AM
Had a thought about this (and a nap) and I still think that often guys hate particular girls because they feel they've been rejected by them.

As for transsexuals hating other transsexuals, it might be a case of jealousy, but I'm only guessing. Women can be pretty catty; I imagine transgirls can be the same.

Some of the better looking transgirls are the worst. I always found Monica Foxx sexy as hell, but she had an attitude the size of Texas. She seemed to hate everyone- guys and girls alike- but reserved a great deal of venom for CDs and TVs and anyone who admitted to finding one of them attractive.

In the case of the girls hating the guys, I think once you've been trodden on you become pretty wary of people. A really bad experience with one guy will make a TS think that every guy's a jerk. This sucks for the rest of us decent guys and for the girls too, because they destroy any chance of a relationship that way by being too suspicious and wary of every single man.

But in Moni's case, she just seemed to hate everyone for no reason. So I guess some people hate simply becuase they're assholes. :shrug

yosi
06-04-2007, 06:56 AM
poeple tend to hate those who don't share their POV about life , and their POV is the right one, and everyone else is wrong ( oh , we are so smart and right, aren't we? )
you can see one religion hating another religion because they have different beliefs , you can see it in racism and many other aspects of life like sex , gender etc.

*some of you probably hate me because of my poor english :lol:

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 06:57 AM
Here's an interesting article online that I've found:

Why Women Hate Other Women
By Cassandra George Sturges

Women compete with each other at a societal level, the criteria for winning is usually set by others and the results are subjective and intangible. Women are usually judged by characteristics that they have little control over; something that they did not create, and that exist outside of themselves such as their physical appearance. Her success is based on subjective, biased, external validation by others. She can’t see how to beat her rival because her rival is in no more control of the outcome than she is. How can you really be more beautiful than another woman, when the decision is nothing more than someone else’s opinion of beauty?

How can you change someone’s personal preference for a certain body size and shape, a particular eye color or a fondness for blondes? How many people are needed to think that you are beautiful before it is a valid or meaningful judgment? Who do you need to tell you that you are beautiful before you can believe it to be true… construction workers, truck drivers, the man walking down the street, your pastor, the Pope, your boss? Women compete with each other for male attention and compliments as if it feeds their self-worth and self-esteem. Women try to dress sexier and have shapelier bodies than other women.

Women instinctively know that men have little power when it comes to sexual intercourse in male and female relationships. Women know that if a platonic relationship exists between a male and a female, ninety percent of the time it is a platonic relationship because the woman does not want to have sex with the man instead of visa versa. Most women do not feel that men are psychologically or biologically capable of resisting another woman’s sexual prowess because of their undying love, loyalty and respect for their committed relationship with them. If a man does not engage in a sexual relationship with a woman who is drop dead gorgeous, most women believe that it is because the other woman was in control of the outcome of the type of relationship. Women intuitively know that most heterosexual males find extraordinary beautiful women sexually irresistible and if that extraordinary beautiful woman wanted her man, he would be hers for the taking.

Women are so busy competing with each other for male attention that they do not have the psychological, intellectual or emotional insight to change the social climate that is causing them to suffer from low-self esteem. Women think of men as being promiscuous, unfaithful, lying, cheating dogs. But what most women need to come to grips with and understand is that research shows that a man is most likely to have a sexual affair with a woman’s best friend, relative or neighbor… a woman whom she trusts, loves and respects. One of the reasons that men who cheat are so successful at it is because women allow them to because they are in competition with each other.

Women believe that they are superior to other women if they are physically more attractive. In a commercial for a diet pill a woman bragged, “I am now smaller than the woman my husband left me for.” This statement leads me to believe that she felt that she deserved her husband’s infidelity when she was over weight. Her motive for losing weight was to be physically smaller than the other woman that her husband left her for. She viewed the other woman as competition more so than feeling betrayed by her husband’s disloyalty. The wife’s motive for losing weight was not to improve the status of her health or increase her self-esteem but be smaller than her competition__ the other woman. The weight control commercial is blatantly telling women that they need to look a certain way in order to earn their husband’s love and fidelity. It doesn’t matter whether or not you cook his meals, raise his kids, and support his dreams… what matters most in a relationship is whether or not you are physically attractive enough to keep your man at home. There is an assumption that it is natural for a man to cheat on a woman who he feels is no longer sexually appealing. Many women believe that it is their fault when their husband or boyfriend cheats on them because they are not attractive enough to keep him faithful.

A woman’s perception of self-worth is validated outside of her self from others and this affects her internal psychological concept of her own value as a human being. Women compete indirectly with other women because they have not learned how to recognize and channel their internal desires, feelings and goals into physical, tangible realities. Once women learn that they can not control or live vicariously through their children or the man in their life; they will stop hating each other and focus on their individual unique gifts, talents and assets.

Why do women hate other women?
1. Women feel that their biological prime-time is limited. She can easily be replaced by a new younger, more beautiful woman. Youth is a woman’s fair-weathered friend.
2. Women feel that other women control their man’s sexual fidelity.
3. Women feel that their level or degree of physical beauty is based on luck as opposed to something that she controls.
4. Women feel that other women can take something that they have worked hard to earn by using their beauty on the job, school and the legal system because men will be taken by her beauty.
5. Women feel that other women can not be trusted. They gossip too much, they are phony and they would take your man right before your eyes.
6. Women feel that other women divert attention away from them.
7. Women feel psychologically competitive with other women to be more attractive.
8. Women subconsciously believe that if they merely looked like another woman, they could inherit her life, her diamond, her man, and people would look at her with the same admiration.

The following dialogue was edited from a variety of websites discussing how women relate to each other:

Points to Ponder:

• You can never stop a man from looking at or admiring another woman’s beauty. Do you really feel that another woman is more valuable as human being than you are simply because of her physical appearance?

• You are more than your physical body. What talents, gifts or skills do you have to contribute to society?

• You can not control what other people think of you. Once you truly accept the truth that you have no control over other people’s thoughts about who you are or how you should live your life; you will be free to design your own life from the inside out.

• You can never compete with anyone but yourself.

• The only person who you can control is yourself…period.

• Whatever you seek in other people develop in yourself. You don’t need to marry a doctor; become a doctor.

• You are the most important person in the world who must believe, acknowledge and recognize your own authentic and unique beauty. Why should anyone love and respect you more than you love and respect yourself.

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Good read. ;)

~Kisses.

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Luna555
06-04-2007, 07:15 AM
Why do men hate on Trans women?

Hmm I cant say exactly

Why do Trans Women hate on other trans women?

Again I cant say exactly why but I feel that sometimes it has to do with feeling jealous. I have noticed this alot in the trans community among women...I myself feel somewhat jealous sometimes. For example I have talked with guys that have dated other trans women and I dont know I always tell them not to show me pictures or talk about them with me... seeing pictures of GG's doest bother me at all....I think it because i feel that if another trans woman looks better than me I feel less because of what she has done in transition and I start to feel like I have alot of transitioning to do. but if I see pictures of a GG a guy has been with I dont feel less because well she hasnt transtioned.

Why do trans women hate on men?

Well I also cant say exactly...but I have had my dealings with hating men....growing up, seeing men physically and emotionally hurt me, my mother, my sisters, made me grow a feeling of hatred towards them because I felt like none of them were nice. I felt like they misused their power and I hated that they had the ability to do so much harm....I saw them as the power behind wars, fights, abuse, everything.

After dating alot of guys I have learned that some are nice and that I should give every one a fair chance. I have seen guys treat me well and that has made me be more selective of who I date...I think that stage of hating men has helped me now that I no longer feel that way I can still use it to my advantage to see thru guys and seeing so many abusive guys has made me pay attention to qualities of other men to watch out for...I am glad I no longer feel that way about men

I DONT MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE. THESE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS.

TJ347
06-04-2007, 07:32 AM
I think everybody's got valid points, but when it comes to transsexuals who hate on men, there's more reasons it seems then there are stars in the sky.

You'll be hated by some just because you're a man, by others because you aren't attracted to transsexuals, by yet others because you are, and by others still seemingly just because you draw breath. In my experience, very few transsexual women I've met face-to-face were what you'd call "warm" or "friendly".

Of course, as I've said elsewhere, in some cases, this changed and I went on to enjoy friendships with a few, but I've never had a single experience where I was initially looked at as anything than "the enemy" it seems, and just for daring to speak to the woman in question at all, I gather. Yet, I would overhear Girl A telling Girl B that she was lonely... WTF? Give a guy a chance!

TJT
06-04-2007, 07:35 AM
I figured it was because I was prettier than everyone else?

Honestly,I think it's got something to do with the need to belong,the need to be wanted and a tendency to exclude those not like you?

When someone new comes along that will fit in the "A" group people feel threatened that they'll lose their place in the pecking order to them. Two,there's a need to exclude,so that your group or clique seems special, important,and exclusive. It seems to cross all boundaries in human society.

Again,don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 07:41 AM
Why do men hate on Trans women?

Hmm I cant say exactly

Why do Trans Women hate on other trans women?

Again I cant say exactly why but I feel that sometimes it has to do with feeling jealous. I have noticed this alot in the trans community among women...I myself feel somewhat jealous sometimes. For example I have talked with guys that have dated other trans women and I dont know I always tell them not to show me pictures or talk about them with me... seeing pictures of GG's doest bother me at all....I think it because i feel that if another trans woman looks better than me I feel less because of what she has done in transition and I start to feel like I have alot of transitioning to do. but if I see pictures of a GG a guy has been with I dont feel less because well she hasnt transtioned.

I likewise have the same thoughts Luna. I think it's simply because we dont want to be compared to a previous TS he's dated. Women share the same sentiments I'm afraid. So I see it as nothing but normal. Ofcourse no man, woman, gay guy, lesbian, tg's would want to feel any less. ;)


Why do trans women hate on men?

Well I also cant say exactly...but I have had my dealings with hating men....growing up, seeing men physically and emotionally hurt me, my mother, my sisters, made me grow a feeling of hatred towards them because I felt like none of them were nice. I felt like they misused their power and I hated that they had the ability to do so much harm....I saw them as the power behind wars, fights, abuse, everything.

My Dad did alot of damage to me, my mom, brothers and sister growing up by his womanizing which in turn tore our family apart. Not to mention being in a few bad long standing relationships with a few. So like you, I've simply grown weary about men..their real motives, men who plays headgames, cheats etc.

Ofcourse, Not all men are alike and should be treated on a case to case basis. Then again, past bad experiences should clue you in and give out warning signs/red flags ahead of time if a man is really a keeper and worth your time or not. :P

~Kisses.

HTG

muhmuh
06-04-2007, 07:43 AM
can anyone explain to me how jealousy could possibly get strong enough to turn to hate?

TJ347
06-04-2007, 07:43 AM
can anyone explain to me how jealousy could possibly get strong enough to turn to hate?

You're kidding, right?

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 07:46 AM
Maybe from one's insecurity/ies? :shrug

~Kisses.

HTG

TJ347
06-04-2007, 07:48 AM
Why do Trans Women hate on other trans women?

Again I cant say exactly why but I feel that sometimes it has to do with feeling jealous. I have noticed this alot in the trans community among women...I myself feel somewhat jealous sometimes.

What?!!! Luna, who's more beautiful than you? :wink:

It's only natural I guess to compare yourself to others, which of course, leads to jealousy. However, it's what you do with that jealousy that makes all the difference. I saw people I knew making more money, and got motivated to make more money myself, by getting the skills I needed to get a better job. The alternative was to sit around, letting that jealousy fester, which would've gotten me nowhere, and made no difference in the lives of the people I was jealous of either.

But yeah, Luna... Nothing to be jealous of anybody for from where I'm sitting... :D

Luna555
06-04-2007, 08:05 AM
Why do men hate on Trans women?

Hmm I cant say exactly

Why do Trans Women hate on other trans women?

Again I cant say exactly why but I feel that sometimes it has to do with feeling jealous. I have noticed this alot in the trans community among women...I myself feel somewhat jealous sometimes. For example I have talked with guys that have dated other trans women and I dont know I always tell them not to show me pictures or talk about them with me... seeing pictures of GG's doest bother me at all....I think it because i feel that if another trans woman looks better than me I feel less because of what she has done in transition and I start to feel like I have alot of transitioning to do. but if I see pictures of a GG a guy has been with I dont feel less because well she hasnt transtioned.

I likewise have the same thoughts Luna. I think it's simply because we dont want to be compared to a previous TS he's dated. Women share the same sentiments I'm afraid. So I see it as nothing but normal. Ofcourse no man, woman, gay guy, lesbian, tg's would want to feel any less. ;)


Why do trans women hate on men?

Well I also cant say exactly...but I have had my dealings with hating men....growing up, seeing men physically and emotionally hurt me, my mother, my sisters, made me grow a feeling of hatred towards them because I felt like none of them were nice. I felt like they misused their power and I hated that they had the ability to do so much harm....I saw them as the power behind wars, fights, abuse, everything.

My Dad did alot of damage to me, my mom, brothers and sister growing up by his womanizing which in turn tore our family apart. Not to mention being in a few bad long standing relationships with a few. So like you, I've simply grown weary about men..their real motives, men who plays headgames, cheats etc.

But ofcourse, Not all men are alike and should be treated on a case to case basis. But then again, past bad experiences should clue you in and give out warning signs/red flags ahead of time if a man is really a keeper and worth your time or not. :P

~Kisses.

HTG

Yeah I completely agree. I hate being compared to other trans women...

I am sorry to hear that Hara. I myself have dealt with similar things. Its really horrible...soem things one man does effects womens feelings for alot of men...

Just yesterday I almost got robbed while I was walking home, I was just strolling home, walking and feeling as free and happy as ever...I didnt feel any type of danger, yet somehow a guy crossed my path and told me to give him everything I had...I started to run, thankfully there were others around a few feet away that were tourist that offered to walk me home....

As I kept walking home... i told them to leave me at the corner and started to walk by myself...then I saw another guy on the side walk and decided to go out of my way to walk on the street instead of the sidewalk afraid he could be capable of the same thing as the guy who tried to mug me....

Can you blame a girl for trying to protect herself? I saw the guy who saw me get back on the side walk after we had passed each other and he gave me a weird look...I was just trying to protect my life...

Some actions by one person can perpetuate an image that is bad but when someones life is in danger I think its better to trust your gut feeling and make others feel bad or think I am mean rather than risk my life to pretend that I was not scared.

Luna555
06-04-2007, 08:07 AM
Why do Trans Women hate on other trans women?

Again I cant say exactly why but I feel that sometimes it has to do with feeling jealous. I have noticed this alot in the trans community among women...I myself feel somewhat jealous sometimes.

What?!!! Luna, who's more beautiful than you? :wink:

It's only natural I guess to compare yourself to others, which of course, leads to jealousy. However, it's what you do with that jealousy that makes all the difference. I saw people I knew making more money, and got motivated to make more money myself, by getting the skills I needed to get a better job. The alternative was to sit around, letting that jealousy fester, which would've gotten me nowhere, and made no difference in the lives of the people I was jealous of either.

But yeah, Luna... Nothing to be jealous of anybody for from where I'm sitting... :D

Aww thanks...but we ourselves are our own worst critics...

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 08:18 AM
Yeah I completely agree. I hate being compared to other trans women...

I am sorry to hear that Hara. I myself have dealt with similar things. Its really horrible...soem things one man does effects womens feelings for alot of men...

Yep. Things people go thru make them mature way ahead of their time and their peers. It's both the good and bad rolled into one.


Just yesterday I almost got robbed while I was walking home, I was just strolling home, walking and feeling as free and happy as ever...I didnt feel any type of danger, yet somehow a guy crossed my path and told me to give him everything I had...I started to run, thankfully there were others around a few feet away that were tourist that offered to walk me home....

As I kept walking home... i told them to leave me at the corner and started to walk by myself...then I saw another guy on the side walk and decided to go out of my way to walk on the street instead of the sidewalk afraid he could be capable of the same thing as the guy who tried to mug me....

Can you blame a girl for trying to protect herself? I saw the guy who saw me get back on the side walk after we had passed each other and he gave me a weird look...I was just trying to protect my life...

Some actions by one person can perpetuate an image that is bad but when someones life is in danger I think its better to trust your gut feeling and make others feel bad or think I am mean rather than risk my life to pretend that I was not scared.

I'm really sorry to hear that Luna. Being mugged is the worst feeling ever. I was mugged once when I was in hs by a homeless guy who wanted my backpack and alllowance money who pointed a knife around my neck and pulled me into an alley in broad daylight with alot of people walking by and just looking on and doing nothing. :evil:

Fortunately for me I was able to gather all my strenght to distract him through talking and when I saw a chance both stepped on his toes and elbowed him really hard that I luckily got away and just rode whatever bus was boarding at the nearest stop. I didnt care where it was headed nor did I care what I left behind. All I care about then was my safety. It was a nightmare!

~Kisses.

HTG

Luna555
06-04-2007, 08:25 AM
WOW yeah...you know yesterday I learn not to think that something can never happen to me...

Just that night before that incident I was thinking omg STL is so nice...I had never experienced anything like that here...I was thinking that nothing would happen to me...

I am sorry to hear that about what happened...no one should ever have to deal with that but I am glad you are okay!

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 08:29 AM
Thanks Luna. Girl, I'm happy nothing bad happened to you either. We should invest in some maze or some stun gun huh? ;)

BTW Luna, I saw your youtube videos and I've to say you look amazing! :)

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/stun-gun-inside.jpg

:P

~Kisses.

HTG

yodajazz
06-04-2007, 10:49 AM
Just yesterday I almost got robbed while I was walking home, ....

Sorry to hear about your experience, Luna. However, your reaction was not about hate, but just a healthy fear based upon experience. I was robbed at gunpoint about a year ago while walking to the store late at night. I still walk but I am very aware of my surroundings, checking people and cars out. Fear based upon experience is very normal and healthy up to a point. For example there can be a healthy distrust of men based upon an abusive father, but it can be easily over generalized, until the person does not trust innocent men.

I define 'hate' here as an intense irrational dislike of someone, not based on real threats from that person. I thought that the idea for this thread came from the recent experience with somone who 'attacked' Hara in a thread, that had no good reason.

Anyway I still plan a further response but wanted to respond to your post right away.

Jericho
06-04-2007, 01:05 PM
Thanks Luna. Girl, I'm happy nothing bad happened to you either. We should invest in some maze or some stun gun huh? ;)

BTW Luna, I saw your youtube videos and I've to say you look amazing! :)

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/stun-gun-inside.jpg

:P

~Kisses.

HTG

Forget the stungun, go with the mace.
I accidently maced myself onetime - Jesus H Christ...I'd rather be stunned anyday of the week! :lol:

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-04-2007, 09:18 PM
Thanks Luna. Girl, I'm happy nothing bad happened to you either. We should invest in some maze or some stun gun huh? ;)

BTW Luna, I saw your youtube videos and I've to say you look amazing! :)

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/stun-gun-inside.jpg

:P

~Kisses.

HTG

Forget the stungun, go with the mace.
I accidently maced myself onetime - Jesus H Christ...I'd rather be stunned anyday of the week! :lol:

Jericho, Is maze really better than a stun gun? I was thinking.. knocking an attacker out cold is best, no :?:

~Kisses.

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crayons
06-04-2007, 10:07 PM
T
Why do men hate women or transexuals?

Men like to feel dominant and like to excercise this power on women or transwomen. They also don't like to accept change and feel a hate for anything they don't have a control of.


Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?

Transition is viewed, especially in this day and age, as a competition. How much someone can pass is the defining factor for a transwoman, hence there is a lot of back biting between transfemales (gossip), jealousy (from either those that don't pass or those that do trying to destory the competitions reputation) etc.


Why do transexuals hate on men?[/b]

Men are fun to hate :lol:
The men that go to transsexual escorts are mostly "weird" and expecting to be treated like princes. (sorry guys, I've seen the ones that go to ts's and let me just say these girls are brave to even let you in- not all of you but most of you that is.)

Some men say they are "straight" but their definition of straight involves an appetite for sucking cock which, according to them, is being comfortable with their sexuality (whatever that means). Tgirls aren't interested in that boys. They're female remember?

Most men aren't very original. They just rehash the same lines guys have been saying for years. For proof, just read what any guy has posted on HA (with exceptions to suckseed, ecstatic, beardedone and seanchai). You other guys are honestly in trouble.

LG
06-04-2007, 10:40 PM
Men are fun to hate :lol:
The men that go to transsexual escorts are mostly "weird" and expecting to be treated like princes. (sorry guys, I've seen the ones that go to ts's and let me just say these girls are brave to even let you in- not all of you but most of you that is.)

Some men say they are "straight" but their definition of straight involves an appetite for sucking cock which, according to them, is being comfortable with their sexuality (whatever that means). Tgirls aren't interested in that boys. They're female remember?

Most men aren't very original. They just rehash the same lines guys have been saying for years. For proof, just read what any guy has posted on HA (with exceptions to suckseed, ecstatic, beardedone and seanchai). You other guys are honestly in trouble.

Most men aren't very original. They just rehash the same lines guys have been saying for years. For proof, just read what any guy has posted on HA (with exceptions to suckseed, ecstatic, beardedone and seanchai). You other guys are honestly in trouble.
:what

I can't say I agree with what you said. I think you're over-generalizing. There are many guys here who are genuine.

Nothing against you personally, but I feel the "Men are fun to hate" thing marks you out as a bit irrational. It might be that you're perfectly rational but a little bitter, or have been hurt by someone. I don't know and I don't care really.

In keeping with the purpose of this thread though, I'd suggest that we're here to fight the hate rather than perpetuate it.

Jericho
06-04-2007, 10:53 PM
Jericho, Is maze really better than a stun gun? I was thinking.. knocking an attacker out cold is best, no :?:
~Kisses.
HTG

If it doesn't knock 'em out, just knocks them off their feet, there's a chance they could get back up and keep coming after you.
When i maced myself [actually, it was pepper spray], i couldn't see, i couldn't breathe, i was fit for nothing, game over! ;-)

muhmuh
06-04-2007, 10:58 PM
and how many of you actually know how to use any of these?
dont buy them unless you know exactly what youre doing youll only hurt yourself... feed your anxieties... and maybe hurt someone completely innocent who just wanted to ask directions

TJ347
06-04-2007, 11:26 PM
Like I told Luna, a girl I know got mugged with mace in her possession... The event concluded with her mace still safe and sound in her purse.

If you're walking home alone, like Luna was, have the mace in your hand, and a finger on the button. If somebody approaches you, make sure you present the mace... if they want directions, they can ask from a distance, and you can avoid firing a shot at them thinking they were trying to rob you.

muhmuh
06-04-2007, 11:32 PM
If you're walking home alone, like Luna was, have the mace in your hand, and a finger on the button. If somebody approaches you, make sure you present the mace... if they want directions, they can ask from a distance, and you can avoid firing a shot at them thinking they were trying to rob you.

this is exactly the kind of anxieties im talking about
this sort of behaviour will only make the situation and walking through the night in general worse

TJ347
06-04-2007, 11:34 PM
this is exactly the kind of anxieties im talking about
this sort of behaviour will only make the situation and walking through the night in general worse

I hear what you're saying, but for me, it's a case where I'd rather assume you're going to try something and be wrong, than assume you won't and be wrong.

Azanti
06-04-2007, 11:39 PM
People have always been afraid of what they do not understand

They hate through Jealousy, indifference, insecurity, bad parenting, racism (That has to be one of the most stupid) fear of failure, the desire to suceed.

Probably most of all, people hate for love, how strange that the best emotion man kind posseses, can also be it's utter worst.

crayons
06-04-2007, 11:42 PM
:what

I can't say I agree with what you said. I think you're over-generalizing. There are many guys here who are genuine.

Nothing against you personally, but I feel the "Men are fun to hate" thing marks you out as a bit irrational. It might be that you're perfectly rational but a little bitter, or have been hurt by someone. I don't know and I don't care really.

In keeping with the purpose of this thread though, I'd suggest that we're here to fight the hate rather than perpetuate it.

It was meant as a joke and a fun poke at the old posts that started off as saying "so how should I treat a tgirl? Please girls, clue us in" *duh
You are too serious. Ofcourse there are men that are geninue, then there are men snapping from the desperate reservoir of not getting laid.

muhmuh
06-04-2007, 11:43 PM
sry but that just completely stupid
besides from feeding anxieties to the point where every walk through the park becomes a horrortrip the only thing youll achieve with these things is make any attacker more aggressive

i dunno what sort of stuff they sell in the us but ive heard from policemen who during training came into direct contact with police grade tw1000 cs gases and were well able to continue doing whatever they were doing before it showed any effect

the only thing youl achieve with that is either taking a load yourself or angering any attacker

LG
06-04-2007, 11:47 PM
:what

I can't say I agree with what you said. I think you're over-generalizing. There are many guys here who are genuine.

Nothing against you personally, but I feel the "Men are fun to hate" thing marks you out as a bit irrational. It might be that you're perfectly rational but a little bitter, or have been hurt by someone. I don't know and I don't care really.

In keeping with the purpose of this thread though, I'd suggest that we're here to fight the hate rather than perpetuate it.

It was meant as a joke and a fun poke at the old posts that started off as saying "so how should I treat a tgirl? Please girls, clue us in" *duh
You are too serious. Ofcourse there are men that are geninue, then there are men snapping from the desperate reservoir of not getting laid.

You're probably right. I am too serious most of the time. :lol:

I agree that some men are genuine and others are just wankers. I think it's the same across the board, for men, women and transwomen.

Oh, and I'm not always serious. You've already seen this thread and posted in it:
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=21037

:D

Azanti
06-04-2007, 11:49 PM
LG has a top sense of humour, I mean just look at his pic. It still looks that shrunken head guy from the muppets.

MrsKellyPierce
06-04-2007, 11:49 PM
Because it's online and you can talk all the shit you want online and not have someone attack you but with words.

TJ347
06-04-2007, 11:51 PM
i dunno what sort of stuff they sell in the us but ive heard from policemen who during training came into direct contact with police grade tw1000 cs gases and were well able to continue doing whatever they were doing before it showed any effect


They were able to continue doing whatever they were doing before it showed any effect... for how long?

If you feel my position is stupid, that's cool by me, as I can respect a difference of opinion. After my old place got robbed, I went out and bought a shotgun. Didn't get me my stuff back, but I sleep better at night now, so it works for me. Probably wouldn't work for you, but then we're two different people, and it takes all kinds, right?

TJ347
06-04-2007, 11:52 PM
Because it's online and you can talk all the shit you want online and not have someone attack you but with words.

We're talking about real hate, Kelly. Not "hate" as you so frequently use it.

MrsKellyPierce
06-04-2007, 11:56 PM
Because it's online and you can talk all the shit you want online and not have someone attack you but with words.

We're talking about real hate, Kelly. Not "hate" as you so frequently use it. I have never been hated on in real life by another transexual as far as that goes. I have gotten along with every last one of them.

I haven't been called out or made fun of in public. I've had friends that were with me, that were. And I stood up for them. And no that isn't me bragging, just giving an honest assessment.

Now people that talk behind my back. WHO REALLY CARES!

AND I THINK IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. It's a matter of being in the dark on topics and not wanting to understand.

TJ347
06-04-2007, 11:59 PM
Kelly, what I was saying is that the topic is HATE, as defined in the dictionary, not as defined by urban vernacular. We're not talking about people who've been "hated on", but people who have experienced hate... for being transsexual, gay, whatever. Two very different things.

muhmuh
06-04-2007, 11:59 PM
They were able to continue doing whatever they were doing before it showed any effect... for how long?

in the case im refering to the guy took a load of gas directly to the face from a distance of roughly 1 metre and it took about 10 minutes until it showed any effect
afterwards it took about 3 weeks for his eyes to heal
keep in mind that this was police grade gases
he also told me that he often saw these things have 0 immediate ill effect on others

MrsKellyPierce
06-05-2007, 12:00 AM
Kelly, what I was saying is that the topic is HATE, as defined in the dictionary, not as defined by urban vernacular. We're not talking about people who've been "hated on", but people who have experienced hate... for being transsexual, gay, whatever. Two very different things. I adressed that in my ending statement. IT'S GONNA TAKE EDUCATION!

TJ347
06-05-2007, 12:15 AM
in the case im refering to the guy took a load of gas directly to the face from a distance of roughly 1 metre and it took about 10 minutes until it showed any effect
afterwards it took about 3 weeks for his eyes to heal
keep in mind that this was police grade gases
he also told me that he often saw these things have 0 immediate ill effect on others

As I stated in another thread, like an idiot, I once tested mace on myself, and was incapacitated in less than a minute. I understand it will take a bit longer to work on some than on others, but ten minutes? Wow. Guess a handgun is a better option then.

muhmuh
06-05-2007, 02:05 AM
no the only option is to know where you can walk around alone and come of as confident enough to not be a target
any weapon does have a much higher chance of making things worse

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-10-2007, 02:15 AM
Because it's online and you can talk all the shit you want online and not have someone attack you but with words.

So online, alot people are brash. But out in the real world alot different? :?
I asked because I'm basically the same on or offline.

~Kisses.

HTG

TJ347
06-10-2007, 03:16 AM
So online, alot people are brash. But out in the real world alot different? :?

Exactly!

Hara_Juku Tgirl
11-09-2007, 02:04 PM
Hmm..interesting! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

CORVETTEDUDE
11-09-2007, 03:15 PM
Because it's online and you can talk all the shit you want online and not have someone attack you but with words.

So online, alot people are brash. But out in the real world alot different? :?
I asked because I'm basically the same on or offline.

~Kisses.

HTG


Unfortunately, what Kelly says is true. Most of our fellow citizens are two-faced, back-stabbing liers. They're jealous so they hate, they hate, so they lie.

TSJunctionCom
11-09-2007, 03:51 PM
most men hate trannies because they consider them gay... especially in america, it's a land of homophobes and anything even in the ballpark is considered 'gay' ...

meanwhile half of those same asshats go home and spank it to tranny porn, shrug.. who knew?

stillies77
11-09-2007, 03:54 PM
people just fear things that are different ya know? If you look at the Civil Rights Movement...Womens Suffrage...its all the same...something that was different for its time fighting for its rights.

MacShreach
11-09-2007, 04:10 PM
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:16 am

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:04 pm



Hmm..interesting! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

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That looked like a bump to me. I've seen a bump before and it looked just like that.

Naughty Miss Hara. 8)

Mr_Choc69
11-09-2007, 04:15 PM
Because we are all HUMANS. It is Human Nature to have variations on attraction/like/dislike.

jimbobw2
11-09-2007, 06:08 PM
Jealousy and spite. Especially gays on tranny’s in that they are jealous a tranny can have relationship with a “straight” person. What pisses me of about the gay community is they so disrespect transsexuals in that they always refer to the girls as “he” or “him.” I hate that.

Hara_Juku Tgirl
11-11-2007, 12:25 PM
Jealousy and spite. Especially gays on tranny’s in that they are jealous a tranny can have relationship with a “straight” person. What pisses me of about the gay community is they so disrespect transsexuals in that they always refer to the girls as “he” or “him.” I hate that.

Co-sign!

~Kisses.

HTG

Dina Delicious
11-11-2007, 01:05 PM
truth be told this is an issue i covered in the last documentary i was interviewwd for
when the community needs a show to raise money they run to us and we go so willingly its so sad but true we are truly used by so many groups
i have a good relationship with the "GAYS" as i call them in NYC bit i truly know what my worth is too them and i take the money and run

Dina Delicious

mbf
11-11-2007, 02:57 PM
this will be to some extent paraphrasing what has already been said, nevertheless I ll give some input.

fear is not a reason for hate. fear makes you numb, hate makes you alert. you can only hate things and/or people you know about - or think you know.

according to personal experience hate is beeing mainly produced by envy and jealousy. if people see what others have, and they feel they should have all that themselves, they will begin to hate. a (false) notion of beeing betrayed will all likely also lead to hatred.

hate is beeing considered a negative emotion. I disagree to some point. hate can work well as an indicator of a situation which is becoming a damaging one. if you start to hate something/someone, its about time you do something about it. its like a wake-up call.

so, dont hate on hate - at least occasionally hate is a "good" emotion, if only in the long run.

thx1138
11-11-2007, 03:25 PM
arrested mental developement caused by infantile, childhood trauma, real and perceived.

dgtlmstry
11-11-2007, 04:16 PM
Timely thread to do since I've recently encountered a few haters (sourgrapes) here on HA. I'm sure some of you can relate.

Questions?:

Why do men hate women or transexuals?

Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?

Why do transexuals hate on men?


Fill in the blanks as to why? And is there a clear purpose/vested interest to hating people?

~Kisses.

HTG

EGO

casca82
11-11-2007, 06:21 PM
people hate because, of the experences in life,
no one wakes up one day deciding they hate, and to say men are behind all the wars is BULLSHIT!!!!!!
all women are just as bad, people try to make excuses for their weakness, fight back. :x

Trogdor
11-11-2007, 08:10 PM
Timely thread to do since I've recently encountered a few haters (sourgrapes) here on HA. I'm sure some of you can relate.

Questions?:

Why do men hate women or transexuals?

Why do transexuals hate on fellow transexuals?

Why do transexuals hate on men?


Fill in the blanks as to why? And is there a clear purpose/vested interest to hating people?

~Kisses.

HTG

Can't answer #'s 2 or 3, but I can answer #1 for you.

~Assumes Monty Python actor in drag ( otherwise known as a 'pepperpot' ) voice~

Chick: Trogdor, you're real nice and cute and all, but can't we just be friends? I'd hate to risk destroying the beautiful thing we have right now. If you'll excuse me, I got to go fuck my rebel thug drummer boyfriend who's been arrested several times, is often drunk and beats the living shit out of me!


I hope that answers #1 for you, Hara. :?