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theonlyone
06-03-2007, 05:08 PM
has anyone noticed that many articles and essays on the net claim that once a patient has undergone MtF SRS, her new equipment will be almost indistinguishable from that of genetic women, and that even ob/gyns won't be able to tell without closer inspection?

What's up with that? Anyone who has seen post-op pussies on porn sites and in porn movies knows that some of them are in fact real hackjobs and little more than a hole in the groin. I've seen less than a handful of neo-vaginas that look anything like a "real" woman's. Is that another case of getting what you pay for and do most TS's working in the porn industry get it done by some back-alley quack?

Vala_TS
06-03-2007, 06:26 PM
I kind of agree with you. Most post-op pussies look too wrinkly.

Vala,

peggygee
06-03-2007, 06:41 PM
These women clearly have not completely healed from their SRS
procedures.

I have noticed that some women are in a hurry to show off their
neo-vaginas, as they are proud that they have culminated their
life long dream. It also seems as if there are many photographers
who are open to taking those pictures.

I tend to feel that both the women and the photographers should
wait until the healing process has completed before a photo shoot.

In time I am sure that the post surgical results of these women will
improve, but in my informed opinion these are not accurate
representations.

peggygee
06-03-2007, 06:44 PM
Following this thread, reading the posts, viewing the pictures, had me
sitting by a sunny window with 400 watts of light and a magnified
mirror up my coochie. From time to time, I do this, much like a breast
self exam.

And rather than bore you with a 'vagina monolouge' from my
gynecologist, or testimonials from former lovers, I will just report that
everything still looks fine.

As I have said in the past, I had a excellent Thai surgeon. In the years
post operatively I have administered Premarin cream internally, both as
an Estrogen supplement and to render the vagina soft, pliable, and aid in
lubrication.

Initially, externally I administered 4% Hydroquinone cream to fade
the scars. I also used Vitamin E, and cocoa butter to minimize scarring.

Over the years the scars have for the most part faded. There are a few
minute scars, for those I allow pubic hair to cover them, and they are
for the most part undetectable.

Bottom line, for any women contemplating SRS, go to a reputable
surgeon, do the appropriate aftercare, and you shoud have a natural
looking, functioning vagina.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
06-03-2007, 06:54 PM
ok look I can't take this anymore, this is a recurring topic that often has individuals on HA believing that a woman that's done the SRS has a bad pussy, to the OP I know that's NOT what you meant to say, I did read your whole thread, but I had to reply like this because the intelligent people are reading it now, in a few hours the silly or idiot posts 2 times a year reply folks will come on and really do a number on this thread. I've personally seen 1 SRS that was so perfect you'd swear whoever you worship daily did the work at birth. The one that was what I call perfection was done by a brilliant doctor whom the woman sat down and consulted with several times prior to the procedure. I agree with you that there are some hackjobs out there, this chick dropped her skirt on stage one night at Club Shelter, whew shit, let's not go there I just ate and thankfully didn't see the whole thing.........BUT we need to focus on getting rid of the people that do the hackjobs so that girls we know don't end up going to them and regretting that decision for the rest of their lives.....................

theonlyone
06-03-2007, 07:53 PM
I never said that all man-made pussies are hackjobs. But with the bad work out there that has obviously been done on some transsexuals, you begin to wonder.

Also, come to think, maybe it's just my imagination running wild, but could it be that some 100% passable post-ops (both in physical appearance and cooch wise) are not even billed as T's in movies? I mean, if that were the case, you'd never really become aware of any "good" examples of the fine art of genital plastic surgery. Who would realize then that the hot chick with the somewhat oddly shaped but nonetheless rather female looking labia minora is really a transsexual and therefore a shining example of how refined modern day surgery has become?

And then there are the tabloids with stories about (increasingly young) transsexuals who say not even their boyfriends knew until they told them. (I believe that's how the headline read in that recent tabloid article about teen transsexual Melanie McPryce)

Well, I guess unless either they or the tabloids are full of sh*t, there probably are some nicely done pussies out there after all. A neo-vagina in itself is very erotic and intriguing to me, at times even more so than a GG's parts. Somehow it's a turn-on to think that they had a dick once. It would be great to know that most of the work out there really looks womanly.

I did see a documentary once, however, about street kids in Brazil who said there are back-alley doctors out there where all you need to do is drop a wad of cash on the table, no questions asked.

Vala_TS
06-03-2007, 08:06 PM
Another way to tell is that the male/TS perineum is fused (has a line running between the butthole and up the balls to the tip of the penis) and this remains visible even after SRS whereas GG's don't have a fused perineum.

Vala,

Kriss
06-03-2007, 08:22 PM
A neo-vagina in itself is very erotic and intriguing to me, at times even more so than a GG's parts. Somehow it's a turn-on to think that they had a dick once.

You are fucked up. That's just really nasty. I really hate people like you. Do you really think that transexual women want to hear that kind of stupid shit?

Your attitude stinks buddy. You are only interested in Transwomen as SEX OBJECTS and , what's even more repusive, as some kind of 'novelty'.
I am just so fucking angry at this ignorant shit.
JWBL is right, all the idiots will chime in, I read some stupid shit on this subject but You are just a nasty, abusive pervert 'onlyone'.

AllanahStarrNYC
06-03-2007, 08:28 PM
I met up with a good friend of mine in London last night who happens to be a very beautiful post op woman. Drop dead gorgeous post op woman.

And she told me how she reads hungangels, but she has never posted on here because she thinks they really hate post ops here.

I think that's disgusting that people on this board make post ops feel that way. And I think people who make all of these remarks are disgusting.

Just like ANYTHING- there are good surgeons, bad surgeons, mediocre seugeons and results thereof.

It is simply RIDICULOUS to imply that because of the limited amount of post ops on websites would be indicative of the surgical results of SRS on a whole. Especially when the people making these comments have never even seen one in real life. If I only see five pictures of ugly asians in my entire life, then would that make all asians ugly? No, it would make the asians I have seen ugly. So SOMEONE explain to me the logic of the statements made above???? PLEASE

I have seen many sex changes in person- and I have seen very good ones and bad ones.

It's funny how people who know little about this surgery, have not personally seen results, have not researched, or have not met with doctors are suddenlhy experts on the subject thereof.

I am sick of the cockcentric attitudes of some of the men on this site and the chimes of wanna be ts's who think they know it all and have yet to walk a day outside, in the day light, and be respected and treated as a woman.

Until you habe paid your dues hunny in the sisterhood , SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Alison Faraday
06-03-2007, 08:55 PM
Now wherever would they get that idea from... Possibly a similar reason as to why I haven't posted on here for 2-weeks.

I simply can't deal with double guessing and figuring people out, while playing silly buggers. Having others play competition games and telling me things after they've happened. In other words; manipulative attention seekers. Whatever their end-game is I have no idea.

There's actually another Allanah here in the UK who I've become friendly with over the last 6-months, ironically post-op too. She calls. I call her. There's no games or pressure. It's just an honest down to earth friendship which is developing where I don't have to wonder or look over my shoulder.

What can I say? I don't want to feel this way so I avoid. :oops:

http://www.alisonfaraday.com/mse/aly5.jpg

62des
06-03-2007, 09:03 PM
Its easy for me to distinguish the difference. As someone said before they look like nothing more than a hole in the groin. There's always some little thing that will give it away.

Alison Faraday
06-03-2007, 09:14 PM
Its easy for me to distinguish the difference. As someone said before they look like nothing more than a hole in the groin. There's always some little thing that will give it away.

I see..........

I got a question. What's a GG?
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=269809&highlight=#269809

peggygee
06-03-2007, 09:18 PM
Its easy for me to distinguish the difference. As someone said before they look like nothing more than a hole in the groin. There's always some little thing that will give it away.

I see..........

I got a question. What's a GG?
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=269809&highlight=#269809

Yeah, we've been watching him.

I got a question. What's a GG?

I got another question. What about those guys who don't want to get fucked in the ass but just fuck the TS girl with no relationships. Why does a guy have to be assumed that since he likes TS girls he wants to be fucked in the ass by one. I see TS girls who are really feminine and passable as females, women with a dick. Like a guy said before If she's beautiful, she's gonna get pleasured wether its a pussy or dick she has. If she looks masculine in any way there is no chance of me getting with her.

:roll:

Kabuki
06-03-2007, 09:18 PM
Now wherever would they get that idea from... Possibly a similar reason as to why I haven't posted on here for 2-weeks.

I simply can't deal with double guessing and figuring people out, while playing silly buggers. Having others play competition games and telling me things after they've happened. In other words; manipulative attention seekers. Whatever their end-game is I have no idea.

There's actually another Allanah here in the UK who I've become friendly with over the last 6-months, ironically post-op too. She calls. I call her. There's no games or pressure. It's just an honest down to earth friendship which is developing where I don't have to wonder or look over my shoulder.

What can I say? I don't want to feel this way so I avoid. :oops:

There will always be people here who make dumb comments...or believe that they're an authority on a subject that they truly know nothing about. Some of these individuals even do it on purpose. To cause trouble, and stir-up things. I hope you won't allow these individuals to run you off Miss. Faraday. I think many people here have learned a lot from the ladies who post on HA. That's a good thing. Change from within the problem areas. You know what I mean? Well, just don't let the ignorant posters keep you away.

peggygee
06-03-2007, 09:22 PM
Watching him very closely. :evil:






Shemales or Women
I prefer shemales more that I like Women
Even though I like shemales, I still prefer a woman or shemales


View Results




Even though most of us consider shemales women with a little extra, do you still like women more? I asked this because in a thread I once read that when this guy say an attractive GG, he would think to himself "It's a shame she doesn't have a dick". It's really everything about the femininity of the shemale to me rather than what she has in her pants because if she had nothing but two assholes it wouldn't matter to me its just her body and face and I'd just have to make it work.


PS: TS girls on this forum please don't feel like you are being objectified by this thread its just a curious question.



BTW: I did a search on this and there were way too many topics to search through and they had no correlation to this one.

theonlyone
06-03-2007, 09:38 PM
*sigh*

maybe this whole thread got off on the wrong foot, but I do not need people getting all judgemental with me and calling me f*cked up in so many words. Thanks a lot, Kriss!

I stated my observations and at the same time expressed my doubts about whether or not the odd "hackjob" can be seen as a mark of how well sex reassignment surgery can turn out these days. Maybe I should have been more clear. My bad. I, for one, stand by what I have said and what has obviously been taken the wrong way by others here: I admire post-ops, and as long as I do, what does it matter why I do. And mere sex objects they are not to me.


But to spare you my stupid inane clueless comments in the future, this will be my last post. Ever.

Enjoy.

theonlyone

Alison Faraday
06-03-2007, 09:45 PM
Mmmm. Ok. Sorry I can't even be bothered to divert the brain power to figure this thread out.

I'm off into the back garden to try and pinch a couple of sausages off of the next door neighbour's barbeque.

*waves* to Peg, Kabuki, and Allanah. :)

62des
06-03-2007, 10:02 PM
WTF is up with this! I come here to learn more about transexuals and my attraction to them and I get this? I asked what's a GG SIMPLY because I wasn't familiar with the terms used here and also wasn't familiar with "Top" and "bottom" until like 2 days ago. Why are yall watching me so hard just what did I do wrong. Yea I've been visiting transexual porn sites now for a long while but just recently learned of forums where we could interact. That's a bunch of bull how yall just start attacking me for no reason! Just because I didn't know of the terminology here I am suspicious? Haven't you all heard of this little thing called "learning"?

TomSelis
06-03-2007, 10:16 PM
WTF is up with this! I come here to learn more about transexuals and my attractionto them and I get this? I asked what's a GG SIMPLY because I wasn't familiar with the terms used here and also wasn't familiar with "Top" and "bottom" until like 2 days ago. Why are yall watching me so hard just what did I do wrong. Yea I've been visiting transexual porn sites now for a long while but just recently learned of forums where we could interact. That's a bunch of bull how yall just start attacking me for no reason! Just because I didn't know of the terminology here I am suspicious? Haven't you all heard of this little thing called "learning"?

Well man, it's like this: A lot of your questions have been asked many, many times before. A simple search would turn up answers to your questions and show you how fruitless many discussions there have been. Yes, you have a point about not knowing what certain terms mean, but again....I think there was a thread about that too.

After you've been here a while, you get kind of tired of reading the same old thing. Certain topics are taboo, it's much better to observe first than to jump straight into the ocean. There are sharks and they will bite your ass! It doesn't matter how well meaning your question is, certain things are untouchable. Watch and learn first.

Kabuki
06-03-2007, 10:23 PM
Its easy for me to distinguish the difference. As someone said before they look like nothing more than a hole in the groin. There's always some little thing that will give it away.

A statement like this would pissed off the girls here. I'm sorry, but this statement is far from the truth. There are plenty of girls who can fool a gynecologist. Do some research outside of porn, or discuss the topic first with the ladies.

62des
06-03-2007, 10:32 PM
Whatever. I try to do a search on somethings and THOUSANDS of posts come up, do you actually think I'm gonna look through all of that?! Then when I try to get to the next search page its talkin about no search options match your criteria or something. Some of you people talk as if you know SO MUCH MORE than everybody else when you don't know how much of an ass you're coming off to be. No offense but it has to be said. As a man who's seen so much pussy on the net AND real life you can't tell me how experienced I am at telling the real thing from surgery. There's always a trace of something that seems odd. Why don't you drop a few pictures and see if I'm bullshitting or do I know what I'm talkin about.

peggygee
06-03-2007, 10:35 PM
WTF is up with this! I come here to learn more about transexuals and my attractionto them and I get this? I asked what's a GG SIMPLY because I wasn't familiar with the terms used here and also wasn't familiar with "Top" and "bottom" until like 2 days ago. Why are yall watching me so hard just what did I do wrong. Yea I've been visiting transexual porn sites now for a long while but just recently learned of forums where we could interact. That's a bunch of bull how yall just start attacking me for no reason! Just because I didn't know of the terminology here I am suspicious? Haven't you all heard of this little thing called "learning"?

Well man, it's like this: A lot of your questions have been asked many, many times before. A simple search would turn up answers to your questions and show you how fruitless many discussions there have been. Yes, you have a point about not knowing what certain terms mean, but again....I think there was a thread about that too.

After you've been here a while, you get kind of tired of reading the same old thing. Certain topics are taboo, it's much better to observe first than to jump straight into the ocean. There are sharks and they will bite your ass! It doesn't matter how well meaning your question is, certain things are untouchable. Watch and learn first.

Close, but no cigar. :smh

It isn't just what you say, but also how you say it.

And for me personally, referring to transwomen as 'shemales'
and making disparaging remarks about post operative
women are fighting words.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/alidaughter3x2.jpg

And whenever that occurs, we will be having this discussion
again.

Because;

IPOWA is the acronym for the International Post
Operative Womens Association.

Our mission statement:

Mission:
The primary objective of the International Post
Operative Women Association (IPOWA)
is education and advocacy on issues related
to post operative transsexual women.

Specifically:
Providing information to the general public, government
entities, academia, and our members at large.

Said information shall consist of, but not be limited to issues
of Law, Employment, Health, and Technology.

We will coordinate effective and efficient strategies, and
policies through continuity, communication, and collaboration.

Finally, IPOWA will never remain mute, to statements that are
libelous, slanderous, or derogatory in nature, that are made to,
or about women in general, and, transgendered and post
operative women specifically.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/respect.jpg

TomSelis
06-03-2007, 10:49 PM
Whatever. I try to do a search on somethings and THOUSANDS of posts come up, do you actually think I'm gonna look through all of that?! Then when I try to get to the next search page its talkin about no search options match your criteria or something. Some of you people talk as if you know SO MUCH MORE than everybody else when you don't know how much of an ass you're coming off to be. No offense but it has to be said. As a man who's seen so much pussy on the net AND real life you can't tell me how experienced I am at telling the real thing from surgery. There's always a trace of something that seems odd. Why don't you drop a few pictures and see if I'm bullshitting or do I know what I'm talkin about.

Yes, but that's the point. What you're basically saying is "can't be bothered." But had you taken the time out to read some of those threads, you would see that some people have made some really fucked up statements about post-ops.

Kriss
06-03-2007, 10:54 PM
maybe this whole thread got off on the wrong foot, but I do not need people getting all judgemental with me and calling me f*cked up in so many words. Thanks a lot, Kriss!

My bad. I, for one, stand by what I have said and what has obviously been taken the wrong way by others here: I admire post-ops, and as long as I do, what does it matter why I do. And mere sex objects they are not to me.

But to spare you my stupid inane clueless comments in the future, this will be my last post. Ever.

My real problem is with the folowing statement

A neo-vagina in itself is very erotic and intriguing to me, at times even more so than a GG's parts. Somehow it's a turn-on to think that they had a dick once..

That statement is SO wrong. Believe me , if you tell that to a post-op Transwoman she will probably give you a swift "hack-job" of your own.

It's quite simple, Transwomen are WOMEN. The LAST thing a TS woman want's to hear is that you are interested in her only because of her TS status. It's disgusting and abusive to treat TS women as an 'oddity', fixating on the genitals and what 'was there'. These girls get the surgery so they can just be themselves, live their lives, so let them. I hate these guys who like girls for WHAT they WERE and not WHO they ARE. These men are poison to Transwomen, am I wrong?

peggygee
06-03-2007, 10:54 PM
Whatever. I try to do a search on somethings and THOUSANDS of posts come up, do you actually think I'm gonna look through all of that?! Then when I try to get to the next search page its talkin about no search options match your criteria or something.

Some of you people talk as if you know SO MUCH MORE than everybody else when you don't know how much of an ass you're coming off to be. No offense but it has to be said. As a man who's seen so much pussy on the net AND real life you can't tell me how experienced I am at telling the real thing from surgery. There's always a trace of something that seems odd. Why don't you drop a few pictures and see if I'm bullshitting or do I know what I'm talkin about.

Admittedly the search function here can take a little getting used
to, but if you are interested I could share some tricks with you
on how to better navigate it.

As to your second point, about folks speaking as if they were
authorities on transgenderism. I can not attest to their level of
expertise.

However, in my instance, I have lived full time as a transwoman for
over thirty years. Ten of those years have been as a post operative
transwoman.

I have intimate, real world experience with trans / natal women and
their vaginas, as well as formal training on the topic of transgenderism.

Thus, I feel I know wherof I speak.

peggygee
06-03-2007, 10:58 PM
maybe this whole thread got off on the wrong foot, but I do not need people getting all judgemental with me and calling me f*cked up in so many words. Thanks a lot, Kriss!

My bad. I, for one, stand by what I have said and what has obviously been taken the wrong way by others here: I admire post-ops, and as long as I do, what does it matter why I do. And mere sex objects they are not to me.

But to spare you my stupid inane clueless comments in the future, this will be my last post. Ever.

My real problem is with the folowing statement

A neo-vagina in itself is very erotic and intriguing to me, at times even more so than a GG's parts. Somehow it's a turn-on to think that they had a dick once..

That statement is SO wrong. Believe me , if you tell that to a post-op Transwoman she will probably give you a swift "hack-job" of your own.

It's quite simple, Transwomen are WOMEN. The LAST thing a TS woman want's to hear is that you are interested in her only because of her TS status. It's disgusting and abusive to treat TS women as an 'oddity', fixating on the genitals and what 'was there'. These girls get the surgery so they can just be themselves, live their lives, so let them. I hate these guys who like girls for WHAT they WERE and not WHO they ARE.

These men are poison to Transwomen, am I wrong?

They are a

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/biohaz_sticker3x3.jpg

62des
06-04-2007, 01:39 AM
OK I can respect this. I do 100% see post op transexuals as women I agree. I see pre op transexuals as women but others might not. I guess the "shemale" part is what threw me off. I didn't know it was such an offensive word. I guess its kinda like the "N" word said to me. Well there could've been a more polite way to tell me and not attacking me for my ignorance. My goodness if its THAT important it should be in a "sticky" so everyone can read it.

peggygee
06-04-2007, 02:23 AM
OK I can respect this. I do 100% see post op transexuals as women I agree. I see pre op transexuals as women but others might not. I guess the "shemale" part is what threw me off. I didn't know it was such an offensive word. I guess its kinda like the "N" word said to me. Well there could've been a more polite way to tell me and not attacking me for my ignorance. My goodness if its THAT important it should be in a "sticky" so everyone can read it.

Cool beans. :wink:

Yeah, there are a few topics and buzz words that are pretty
much guaranteed to provoke a flame war.

And if you're a person of color, I think you can empathize with
how the 'S' word is like the 'N' word.

But overall, this can at times be a great place. And if as you state,
you are looking to learn more about tranwomen, that can happen
as well.

There are a number of very bright, informed, compassionate people,
that may be able to share their insights.

HA - 'It's not all about 'dick pics'.

Oh, and by the way;

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/welcome_108.gif

roy404
06-04-2007, 06:44 AM
If you guys just knew how many post-op girls, especially from the eastern Europe countries, pose for mens mags and I mean Spread beaver pink shots you would s--t..
I personally have a date with a post-op stripper here in town Monday that has danced for 6 years without anyone knowing. I knew her in New Orleans and she got ahold of me when she moved. I also date many others in fact more than pre-op's.
As the ladies here said there are all types of surgery. And as I have said before much of the result is due to the girls after care and how she takes care of HERSELF.
Yes some look bad but so do a few GG ones after a few kids.
You people have to remember most of the post-op in the world are NOT in the adult entertainment world.

TJ347
06-04-2007, 09:24 AM
I don't know enough about this subject to comment on it (though that doesn't stop most people)... However, it is interesting, and I'd like to know from whence some people are getting the idea the vagina of a post-op transsexual female and a genetic female are so radically different in appearance, so that I might gain some insight.

Anyone? Pics? Links?

Jericho
06-04-2007, 02:22 PM
I don't know enough about this subject to comment on it (though that doesn't stop most people)... However, it is interesting, and I'd like to know from whence some people are getting the idea the vagina of a post-op transsexual female and a genetic female are so radically different in appearance, so that I might gain some insight.

Anyone? Pics? Links?

Some fresh ones:

http://www.srsmiami.com/photography-m2f.html

Unregistered
06-04-2007, 05:51 PM
peggygee, may I ask, who was your surgeon in Thailand?

londonrussianblond
06-04-2007, 06:12 PM
thanx for posting up the details of good sex re assignment surgery,, much appreciated,, the results are very good,, some are amazing these days,, ive been very lucky with mine. looks,, feel,, depth etc,,, orgasm,,, my surgeon was mr michael royale,, hove brighton. hes retired now,, but was very good at the time. thanks again!!!

Vicki Richter
06-04-2007, 06:56 PM
ok look I can't take this anymore, this is a recurring topic that often has individuals on HA believing that a woman that's done the SRS has a bad pussy, to the OP I know that's NOT what you meant to say, I did read your whole thread, but I had to reply like this because the intelligent people are reading it now, in a few hours the silly or idiot posts 2 times a year reply folks will come on and really do a number on this thread. I've personally seen 1 SRS that was so perfect you'd swear whoever you worship daily did the work at birth. The one that was what I call perfection was done by a brilliant doctor whom the woman sat down and consulted with several times prior to the procedure. I agree with you that there are some hackjobs out there, this chick dropped her skirt on stage one night at Club Shelter, whew shit, let's not go there I just ate and thankfully didn't see the whole thing.........BUT we need to focus on getting rid of the people that do the hackjobs so that girls we know don't end up going to them and regretting that decision for the rest of their lives.....................

The fucking problem Johnny is that when people see perfect ones, they don't get the doctors name to pass it along. Who was this brilliant doctor JWB?

This is just fucking annoying when people do this. I hate seeing a photo of a girl and you have no idea who did her surgery and none of the guys think to ask to pass it along. Jackasses.

I've seen way more fucked up, looks nothing like a vagina, post-ops than good ones. In fact, I have never seen one that looks flawless in any way. The girls who claim to have good ones won't show pictures which shows they probably are fucked up too. Seriously the only good, consistent doctor I know of is Meltzer in Phoenix.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
06-04-2007, 06:58 PM
ok look I can't take this anymore, this is a recurring topic that often has individuals on HA believing that a woman that's done the SRS has a bad pussy, to the OP I know that's NOT what you meant to say, I did read your whole thread, but I had to reply like this because the intelligent people are reading it now, in a few hours the silly or idiot posts 2 times a year reply folks will come on and really do a number on this thread. I've personally seen 1 SRS that was so perfect you'd swear whoever you worship daily did the work at birth. The one that was what I call perfection was done by a brilliant doctor whom the woman sat down and consulted with several times prior to the procedure. I agree with you that there are some hackjobs out there, this chick dropped her skirt on stage one night at Club Shelter, whew shit, let's not go there I just ate and thankfully didn't see the whole thing.........BUT we need to focus on getting rid of the people that do the hackjobs so that girls we know don't end up going to them and regretting that decision for the rest of their lives.....................

The fucking problem Johnny is that when people see perfect ones, they don't get the doctors name to pass it along. Who was this brilliant doctor JWB?

This is just fucking annoying when people do this. I hate seeing a photo of a girl and you have no idea who did her surgery and none of the guys think to ask to pass it along. Jackasses.

I've seen way more fucked up, looks nothing like a vagina, post-ops than good ones. In fact, I have never seen one that looks flawless in any way. The girls who claim to have good ones won't show pictures which shows they probably are fucked up too. Seriously the only good, consistent doctor I know of is Meltzer in Phoenix.

I'll ask the woman, not a problem. LOL, you have to understand I'm not one to ask a post op "WOW who did your pussy?!?" I saw the shit and said to myself "that's nice"

londonrussianblond
06-04-2007, 07:05 PM
meltzer is very good,,, yes,,, there are alot of fantastic post op pussys out there that dont want to be outed,, and wanna remain stealth!! and seriously,, hav u ever seen a pussy after its spat out 6 or 7 kids?? not a pretty sight either!! pussys come in all shapes and forms ,, genetic,, or surgery,, same as there are fucked up looking dicks,, some more than others!!!

Vicki Richter
06-04-2007, 07:11 PM
Well this seems like a great forum to discuss good and bad surgery. There are a lot of girls who read it. I think a big problem is with the post-op girls themselves. They do go into some other mental state after surgery and, in my opinion, become less helpful. It's like some secret society that frustrates me endlessly.

I realize once it's done it's done, but if a girl has surgery and it is messed up, why not share it with other TS to warn them? Warn them! Don't let your anger about having a bad looking for non-functional pussy make you bitter. Do something positive with it and warn girls not to go to that doctor. If you don't know if you have a good pussy, rent some porno. It seems that many post-op women don't have a lot of vagina experience prior to getting SRS.

Also, if you are post-op and have a great vagina, create a fake ID on here and post the photos. The photos on web sites of SRS vagina's look terrible 99% of the time. What is up with that in this day and age.

That is my opinion. JWB post the name of the doctor who did a good vagina.

Vicki Richter
06-04-2007, 07:13 PM
meltzer is very good,,, yes,,, there are alot of fantastic post op pussys out there that dont want to be outed,, and wanna remain stealth!! and seriously,, hav u ever seen a pussy after its spat out 6 or 7 kids?? not a pretty sight either!! pussys come in all shapes and forms ,, genetic,, or surgery,, same as there are fucked up looking dicks,, some more than others!!!

I don't buy that. If they are fantastic, post a photo anonymously with no head shot. The girls don't even do that. It is a huge "fuck you" to the pre-op TS who are vagina shopping.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
06-04-2007, 07:14 PM
like I said I'll ask, she's asleep right now...........

in the meantime Vicki, my cam is on, ;)

londonrussianblond
06-04-2007, 07:21 PM
well however good the surgery results,, most post ops dont want to show their results on places like this as they no there gonna get attacked by negative comments whatever the outcome of there surgery,,, good ,, great,, or bad,,,,,.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
06-04-2007, 07:24 PM
see thats the thing, I'm so tired of seeing pre-op cock every other thread..................... I WOULD LOVE to see some pretty post-op pussy on this forum.............

Vicki Richter
06-04-2007, 07:33 PM
well however good the surgery results,, most post ops dont want to show their results on places like this as they no there gonna get attacked by negative comments whatever the outcome of there surgery,,, good ,, great,, or bad,,,,,.

A great vagina would not get attacked. Guys would be like, "holy fuck that looks real" and it would be educational for the girls. If it didn't look so great, then guys would probably be asses, but that is just honesty probably.

Show me a site where girls post results that are new? I have seen sites posting pix of most of the doctors from up to 10 years a go. Who wants to see that. It isn't educational.

peggygee
06-04-2007, 07:35 PM
Well this seems like a great forum to discuss good and bad surgery. There are a lot of girls who read it. I think a big problem is with the post-op girls themselves. They do go into some other mental state after surgery and, in my opinion, become less helpful. It's like some secret society that frustrates me endlessly.

I realize once it's done it's done, but if a girl has surgery and it is messed up, why not share it with other TS to warn them? Warn them! Don't let your anger about having a bad looking for non-functional pussy make you bitter. Do something positive with it and warn girls not to go to that doctor. If you don't know if you have a good pussy, rent some porno. It seems that many post-op women don't have a lot of vagina experience prior to getting SRS.

Also, if you are post-op and have a great vagina, create a fake ID on here and post the photos. The photos on web sites of SRS vagina's look terrible 99% of the time. What is up with that in this day and age.

That is my opinion. JWB post the name of the doctor who did a good vagina.

Vicki, I don't think it's as simple as that.

As post op women we often get hated on by other non / pre ops, who feel
that we are self loathing or have copped out.

We get hated on by the dick lovers, whose favorite object is now gone,
and thus we are no longer of any interest or use to them.

We've lived our lives in the transcommunity which is divisive, fragmented,
catty and shady to its own.

Is there any wonder why, when we have the opportunity to leave, that
we take the first train out of trannyville that I speak of so often.

We go and try to live that mainstream life that all of us wish for.

For me, relationship wise I end up with the guy who wouldn't be feeling
me if I had a dick, but is cool with my post op status. Or I may be with
the guy who 'truly' likes me for me, and what is between my legs is
irrelevant.

Some post op women will come back and share with their Sisters their
surgical results and how things have been going over-all.

But usually when you break out of a jail, you don't return to visit on
visiting day.

peggygee
06-04-2007, 07:38 PM
well however good the surgery results,, most post ops dont want to show their results on places like this as they no there gonna get attacked by negative comments whatever the outcome of there surgery,,, good ,, great,, or bad,,,,,.

I agree.

I'm not in the adult entertainment industry, so if you ain't my Doctor,
Mother or lover you ain't seeing shit.

peggygee
06-04-2007, 07:52 PM
well however good the surgery results,, most post ops dont want to show their results on places like this as they no there gonna get attacked by negative comments whatever the outcome of there surgery,,, good ,, great,, or bad,,,,,.

A great vagina would not get attacked. Guys would be like, "holy fuck that looks real" and it would be educational for the girls. If it didn't look so great, then guys would probably be asses, but that is just honesty probably.

Show me a site where girls post results that are new? I have seen sites posting pix of most of the doctors from up to 10 years a go. Who wants to see that. It isn't educational.

On sites that are more woman friendly and that I don't have to be
on a soapbox all the damn time, I am much more laid back.

There are a few sites like Roy's or others that are run by women that
I - we, are more able to let our hair down, and do share pictures and
information like you are describing.

But here, it's Kevlar body armor and asbestos panties for me.

That and my security detail.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/myteam.jpg

And my jet constantly fueled to fly
me back to the safety and relative
serenity of Hetero-land.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/leerjets3x4.jpg

londonrussianblond
06-04-2007, 07:55 PM
well however good the surgery results,, most post ops dont want to show their results on places like this as they no there gonna get attacked by negative comments whatever the outcome of there surgery,,, good ,, great,, or bad,,,,,.

I agree.

I'm not in the adult entertainment industry, so if you ain't my Doctor,
Mother or lover you ain't seeing shit.lol!! hell yeah!! i agree peggy!!! why should we set ourselves up to get knocked straight back down??? i no how this site works,,, i could set a fake id up,, use a pic of a genetic vagina and still get negative comments saying it looks like shit!!! theres no point

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
06-04-2007, 07:56 PM
KEVLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and I didn't realize how bad it was for post ops on here in Gen. Disc. until I got cussed out by my favorite post op at a monthly party for not speaking up, I honestly avoided the threads, I just had no interest in listening to men discuss post ops when no post ops were discussing post ops, if you get that

peggygee
06-04-2007, 08:04 PM
well however good the surgery results,, most post ops dont want to show their results on places like this as they no there gonna get attacked by negative comments whatever the outcome of there surgery,,, good ,, great,, or bad,,,,,.

I agree.

I'm not in the adult entertainment industry, so if you ain't my Doctor,
Mother or lover you ain't seeing shit.lol!! hell yeah!! i agree peggy!!! why should we set ourselves up to get knocked straight back down??? i no how this site works,,, i could set a fake id up,, use a pic of a genetic vagina and still get negative comments saying it looks like shit!!! theres no point

Girl, I got much love for my Sisters, or else I wouldn't have
come back.

But for most of these faceless cock bandits, fuck them with a
sick dick.

And, yes there are a number of great guys on here. And it's
not even about them feeling the post ops, but some of these
guys are 'insane in the membrane', just in love and lust with
the dick, and nothing else.

Again there are a lot of great people on HA, but if a women
wants a healthier, more supportive, nurturing environment
there are sites and places.

londonrussianblond
06-04-2007, 08:12 PM
well however good the surgery results,, most post ops dont want to show their results on places like this as they no there gonna get attacked by negative comments whatever the outcome of there surgery,,, good ,, great,, or bad,,,,,.

I agree.

I'm not in the adult entertainment industry, so if you ain't my Doctor,
Mother or lover you ain't seeing shit.lol!! hell yeah!! i agree peggy!!! why should we set ourselves up to get knocked straight back down??? i no how this site works,,, i could set a fake id up,, use a pic of a genetic vagina and still get negative comments saying it looks like shit!!! theres no point

Girl, I got much love for my Sisters, or else I wouldn't have
come back.

But for most of these faceless cock bandits, fuck them with a
sick dick.

And, yes there are a number of great guys on here. And it's
not even about them feeling the post ops, but some of these
guys are 'insane in the membrane', just in love and lust with
the dick, and nothing else.

Again there are a lot of great people on HA, but if a women
wants a healthier, more supportive, nurturing environment
there are sites and places.i no,, your right,,, just wanted to get involved to promote us in a positive way,,,which youve been doing in a damn fine way,, by the way!!! keep up the good work hunny xxx

ARMANIXXX
06-04-2007, 08:12 PM
All I know is Peggy, when you do ever get around to commin to the Bay Area, make sure you let me know.......

I have some educational inspecting to do. :wink:

peggygee
06-04-2007, 08:14 PM
KEVLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and I didn't realize how bad it was for post ops on here in Gen. Disc. until I got cussed out by my favorite post op at a monthly party for not speaking up, I honestly avoided the threads, I just had no interest in listening to men discuss post ops when no post ops were discussing post ops, if you get that

Kevlar, my spelling gets fucked up when I get on a rant. :wink:

That's one way flamers can tell if they have got a body shot, my
brain is going faster than my hands can type a response.

You should see me now, I am perspiring, shaking.

But as folks may know by now, talking shit about me tends not
to bother me much. But dissing my Sisters, calling us shemales,
spreading misinformation / disinformation about post op women,
then it's on like hot buttered pop...pop...corn.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/popcorn.jpg

And yes Johnny it has been very bad for post ops at HUNGANGELS. :cry:

Vicki Richter
06-04-2007, 08:15 PM
I don't want to kiss girls asses to get pictures or recommendations. Again, Peggy, I see that as a "fuck you, you're pre-op".

How exactly do you help the community if you don't share experiences. Why is it that despite 100 different methods, 90% of the girls who are post op (if not higher) claim to orgasm still. Bull fucking shit.

The two things pre-ops care about (apperance and functionality) and many post-ops lie about everything. I would say most, but I don't have a post-op vagina so I would be projecting my opinion on something which I have no experience.

However, I do feel that a fairly small percentage (strictly based upon the doctors who performed the procedure) of post-ops actually orgasm. We can't possibly know which ones because of all the lies and deceipt.

Tell me Peggy, why aren't there sites with fresh pictures of the doctor's work? It is all very discouraging and retarded.

ARMANIXXX
06-04-2007, 08:22 PM
KEVLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and I didn't realize how bad it was for post ops on here in Gen. Disc. until I got cussed out by my favorite post op at a monthly party for not speaking up, I honestly avoided the threads, I just had no interest in listening to men discuss post ops when no post ops were discussing post ops, if you get that

Kevlar, my spelling gets fucked up when I get on a rant. :wink:

That's one way flamers can tell if they have got a body shot, my
brain is going faster than my hands can type a response.

You should see me now, I am perspiring, shaking.

But as folks may know by now, talking shit about me tends not
to bother me much. But dissing my Sisters, calling us shemales,
spreading misinformation / disinformation about post op women,
then it's on like hot buttered pop...pop...corn.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/popcorn.jpg

And yes Johnny it has been very bad for post ops at HUNGANGELS. :cry:



uh oh...

what did I step into here?

peggygee
06-04-2007, 08:24 PM
well however good the surgery results,, most post ops dont want to show their results on places like this as they no there gonna get attacked by negative comments whatever the outcome of there surgery,,, good ,, great,, or bad,,,,,.

I agree.

I'm not in the adult entertainment industry, so if you ain't my Doctor,
Mother or lover you ain't seeing shit.lol!! hell yeah!! i agree peggy!!! why should we set ourselves up to get knocked straight back down??? i no how this site works,,, i could set a fake id up,, use a pic of a genetic vagina and still get negative comments saying it looks like shit!!! theres no point

Girl, I got much love for my Sisters, or else I wouldn't have
come back.

But for most of these faceless cock bandits, fuck them with a
sick dick.

And, yes there are a number of great guys on here. And it's
not even about them feeling the post ops, but some of these
guys are 'insane in the membrane', just in love and lust with
the dick, and nothing else.

Again there are a lot of great people on HA, but if a women
wants a healthier, more supportive, nurturing environment
there are sites and places.i no,, your right,,, just wanted to get involved to promote us in a positive way,,,which youve been doing in a damn fine way,, by the way!!! keep up the good work hunny xxx


Thanks girl, glad you're here.

It's great that headquarters has sent in some replacement
troops, as we have suffered a great deal of casulties.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/deceasedsoldier.jpg

Know that we fight the good and true and righteous fight.

muhmuh
06-04-2007, 08:28 PM
really why is there no med review site for things like these?
some place where you can find honest answers to surgical results and the like to make up your own decisions on which doc to pay
nowerdays there are evaluation systems put in place for pretty much anything but not for stuff that really does matter and is/can be life changing

Ecstatic
06-04-2007, 08:48 PM
lol!! hell yeah!! i agree peggy!!! why should we set ourselves up to get knocked straight back down??? i no how this site works,,, i could set a fake id up,, use a pic of a genetic vagina and still get negative comments saying it looks like shit!!! theres no point
Well said. With no ID or face shot, if you posted pics of your pussy inevitably there'd be attacks of "it's fake!" (meaning the photo, not the vaginoplasty), and if you posted pics of a genetic pussy, there's bound to be outcries of how it's a botched job and ugly.

Yet Vicki has a good point: perhaps this isn't the proper venue, but transwomen who have not had SRS but plan to would benefit from more info, details, and pics: about doctors, procedures, results, etc. But I don't see that happening here.

I have two post-op friends; one I've photographed (she approached me about doing it) and the other is a woman I've been intimate with a few times. Both have lovely pussies. The one I've known in the biblical sense told me that she had to have her vaginoplasty done twice, because the first surgeon botched the job. This does seem to be a real risk, and hence the benefit of more info about which surgeons are good and the like would be helpful, imho. But her second surgeon was able to correct the mistakes, and honestly, I can't tell the difference between hers and any genetic woman I've been with.

AllanahStarrNYC
06-04-2007, 08:54 PM
ok look I can't take this anymore, this is a recurring topic that often has individuals on HA believing that a woman that's done the SRS has a bad pussy, to the OP I know that's NOT what you meant to say, I did read your whole thread, but I had to reply like this because the intelligent people are reading it now, in a few hours the silly or idiot posts 2 times a year reply folks will come on and really do a number on this thread. I've personally seen 1 SRS that was so perfect you'd swear whoever you worship daily did the work at birth. The one that was what I call perfection was done by a brilliant doctor whom the woman sat down and consulted with several times prior to the procedure. I agree with you that there are some hackjobs out there, this chick dropped her skirt on stage one night at Club Shelter, whew shit, let's not go there I just ate and thankfully didn't see the whole thing.........BUT we need to focus on getting rid of the people that do the hackjobs so that girls we know don't end up going to them and regretting that decision for the rest of their lives.....................

The fucking problem Johnny is that when people see perfect ones, they don't get the doctors name to pass it along. Who was this brilliant doctor JWB?

This is just fucking annoying when people do this. I hate seeing a photo of a girl and you have no idea who did her surgery and none of the guys think to ask to pass it along. Jackasses.

I've seen way more fucked up, looks nothing like a vagina, post-ops than good ones. In fact, I have never seen one that looks flawless in any way. The girls who claim to have good ones won't show pictures which shows they probably are fucked up too. Seriously the only good, consistent doctor I know of is Meltzer in Phoenix.


It was Meltzer to did the work in her. If I have the correct girl.

peggygee
06-04-2007, 08:55 PM
I don't want to kiss girls asses to get pictures or recommendations. Again, Peggy, I see that as a "fuck you, you're pre-op".

How exactly do you help the community if you don't share experiences. Why is it that despite 100 different methods, 90% of the girls who are post op (if not higher) claim to orgasm still. Bull fucking shit.

The two things pre-ops care about (apperance and functionality) and many post-ops lie about everything. I would say most, but I don't have a post-op vagina so I would be projecting my opinion on something which I have no experience.

However, I do feel that a fairly small percentage (strictly based upon the doctors who performed the procedure) of post-ops actually orgasm. We can't possibly know which ones because of all the lies and deceipt.

Tell me Peggy, why aren't there sites with fresh pictures of the doctor's work? It is all very discouraging and retarded.

If I have been remiss in providing information, I truly apologize. If
anything I had thought I was too wordy in sharing.

But in threads like The Cost Of Transition
http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=15156&highlight=transition+costs
a great deal of information has been shared.

Also, if you would like to see surgical results there are a large number
of Yahoo, MSN and other user groups that are dedicated to that specific
surgeons work, as well as most surgeons providing photos, etc on their
work on their own website.

If you or others desire the links, I will get them up or you can Google. :google

As to appearance and functionality. With advances and refinement in
techniques, the surgical results are getting better and better. Clearly
a Doctor who specializes in GRS and performs alot of them should
be quite proficient, and I would strongly and in no uncertain terms say
don't be dollar wise and penny foolish with something like this.

But having said that, I would still highly recommend the Thai surgeons for
the best bang for the buck (pun somewhat intended).

On orgasm rates of post ops, I've got to look through some files, but
I will say truthfully I am capable of having orgasms.

Very capable. :oops:

Vicki Richter
06-04-2007, 08:57 PM
I have two post-op friends; one I've photographed (she approached me about doing it) and the other is a woman I've been intimate with a few times. Both have lovely pussies. The one I've known in the biblical sense told me that she had to have her vaginoplasty done twice, because the first surgeon botched the job. This does seem to be a real risk, and hence the benefit of more info about which surgeons are good and the like would be helpful, imho. But her second surgeon was able to correct the mistakes, and honestly, I can't tell the difference between hers and any genetic woman I've been with.

Again, most talk without names. Who botched the surgery? Isn't that useful information? Wouldn't that be helpful for the community? Of course you didn't think to ask. You are as useless on this topic as JWB. Who did the redo's? Lovely by what standards? Lovely like real looking or lovely like they don't look like a big meat hole like some of the other ones?

Come on.

peggygee
06-04-2007, 09:04 PM
Yet Vicki has a good point: perhaps this isn't the proper venue, but transwomen who have not had SRS but plan to would benefit from more info, details, and pics: about doctors, procedures, results, etc. But I don't see that happening here.



I try to bring up the topic, and share the information but often times
non ops and the cock lovers shoot me in the ass, so I basically
derfend the pussy against misinformation and disinformation.

And keep it moving. :arrow:

I would have ass-u-med this would have been something
that more women would have been interested in, but it
didn't seem to be the case.

:shrug

Ecstatic
06-04-2007, 09:11 PM
Again, most talk without names. Who botched the surgery? Isn't that useful information? Wouldn't that be helpful for the community? Of course you didn't think to ask. You are as useless on this topic as JWB. Who did the redo's? Lovely by what standards? Lovely like real looking or lovely like they don't look like a big meat hole like some of the other ones?

Come on.
No, I didn't want to push the subject. I wasn't conducting a survey at the time, and that's the info she volunteered. She's Vietnamese and English is difficult for her, but I will try to find out next time I see her if I can. I just don't want to be an insensitive cad and ask, "So who botched your cootch the first time around? and who fixed it up for you?"

As for pics, she does not want to have it photographed. I have photographed her privately, but with the agreement that the pics remain private (and even then, though we did a few nudes, she was discrete). As for how it looks, I said "honestly, I can't tell the difference between hers and any genetic woman I've been with." Isn't that enough? I've seen maybe a dozen pussies up close and personal, and hers is as "real" as any of them (and yes, the others were all genetic).

The other woman's pussy looks fine, too. Hopefully they will be published sometime soon and you'll be able to judge for yourself.

londonrussianblond
06-04-2007, 09:16 PM
i can only speak for myself,, but i can orgasm very easily,,, and do cum around 4 or 5 times aweek!!! and i love it. but im not sure on everyone,,, some of the older ops i think arnt capable of orgasm,, as they didnt create clitorous,, or save all of the nerve endings,, which u need to stimulate an orgasm. ive only ever had one op on my vagina,, but as ive said before ive been very lucky. im very confident with the results of my pussy,, have had lots of hetrosexual lovers and boyfriends who have never questioned my gender ,, or detected me/"spooked me" as you u.s girls say!!! we say chimped over here!! or chimpo!!!

Dina Delicious
06-04-2007, 10:58 PM
i keep quiet about alot of things here because i do not think
post ops really need to be defended
I AM A POST OP WOMAN
so there some dont even know that and im not in my own world im out there and im proud of it this weekend will celebrate 8 years and i have no complaints
search through old threads my dear friend allanah posted apic of my pink taco sometime back
i dont know how to post pics here and im not starting too
my dr was the brilliant Dr Meltzer
and i was and continue to be very well taken care of by him and staff
as far as discussing surgeries i do not discuss my vagina on internet message boards period!
people are cruel just to be cruel and i dont need that shit
but as allanah or any of the girls in nyc know
ive helped and guided many and have no problem helping a sisster out i just wont do it on the net as there seems to be a few people that allready try so hard to out me and to make my day to day life miserable because i am a post op crazy but true
so ive shared hope this doesnt come to bite me in the ass
kisses
and good luck to you all on your own journeys

Dina Marie Delicous

Dina Delicious
06-04-2007, 11:00 PM
thank you jwb
kisses
dd

londonrussianblond
06-04-2007, 11:36 PM
thank you jwb
kisses
ddwow gurl,, i didnt no u were a post op!!! :)),, i totally agree with everything u said,,,and ur good advice,,, thanx hunny,, xxxxx

NYTSJulie
06-04-2007, 11:51 PM
I have seen many post-op twats and like any other surgery the results can vary. It depends on what doctor you go to and it also depends on the aftercare.

A girl I knew in Ohio showed me hers and my friend was daring enough to stick her finger in it. She was only able to get her finger in 1/2 way, about 2 inches. It didnt look like a pussy on the outside either. I felt bad for the girl, but she was all ecstatic that she had a "pussy", I didnt want to burst her bubble and let her know it was more of a pocket then a pussy. She had it done in Thailand for about 4K

Then another friend of mine went to Canada and spent 16K. Its about 6 1/2 inches deep and looks 100 percent like a pussy.

So it depends on the doctor, the method he uses, and the aftercare of dilatation. Also some girls need labiaplasty after.

62des
06-04-2007, 11:54 PM
So if you ladies were in a commited relationship for a while would you eventually tell your mate?

Ecstatic
06-05-2007, 12:06 AM
Then another friend of mine went to Canada and spent 16K. Its about 6 1/2 inches deep and looks 100 percent like a pussy.
The only complaint my Vietnamese friend has mentioned to me is that some guys are too big for her. She's also about 6.5" deep and she says I fill her up and it feels great, but bigger guys can hurt.

Am I right, that one big factor in depth is a girl's penis size to start with?

mbf
06-05-2007, 12:18 AM
i dotn have a problem with post op pussy at all.

but with some people carrying one. as with all people who think they r something better. some post ops see the time after surgery as a free ticket to look down on other people who dont wanna follow their footseps.

great for you if you felt the need to become "heterosexual mainstream" and undertook everything it took until u felt satisfied.

but can u imagine that, for a considerable number of people i suppose, a big part of attraction of this tgirls mondo bizarro is that "shades of gray" effect - nor black or white, nor woman or man. and htis has nothing to do with sex.

its a bit ironic that some of u post ops seem so obsessed with genitalia as the "cock-bandits" u loath.

Vicki Richter
06-05-2007, 12:18 AM
I have seen many post-op twats and like any other surgery the results can vary. It depends on what doctor you go to and it also depends on the aftercare.

A girl I knew in Ohio showed me hers and my friend was daring enough to stick her finger in it. She was only able to get her finger in 1/2 way, about 2 inches. It didnt look like a pussy on the outside either. I felt bad for the girl, but she was all ecstatic that she had a "pussy", I didnt want to burst her bubble and let her know it was more of a pocket then a pussy. She had it done in Thailand for about 4K

Then another friend of mine went to Canada and spent 16K. Its about 6 1/2 inches deep and looks 100 percent like a pussy.

So it depends on the doctor, the method he uses, and the aftercare of dilatation. Also some girls need labiaplasty after.

You are as bad as the guys. Everyone has a friend of a friend and nobody knows who they went to. Who did the bad pussy? Who did the good one?

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-05-2007, 12:26 AM
A $4k pussy (2 inch deep) vs. a $16k (6 1/2 inches deep). Hmm..the price differences between the two alone should have said alot right there! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

Dina Delicious
06-05-2007, 12:38 AM
i dotn have a problem with post op pussy at all.

but with some people carrying one. as with all people who think they r something better. some post ops see the time after surgery as a free ticket to look down on other people who dont wanna follow their footseps.

great for you if you felt the need to become "heterosexual mainstream" and undertook everything it took until u felt satisfied.

but can u imagine that, for a considerable number of people i suppose, a big part of attraction of this tgirls mondo bizarro is that "shades of gray" effect - nor black or white, nor woman or man. and htis has nothing to do with sex.

its a bit ironic that some of u post ops seem so obsessed with genitalia as the "cock-bandits" u loath.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Dina Delicious
06-05-2007, 12:42 AM
and who are you directing this at?
i dont discuss it because i dont think it makes me better
and im open to help anyone that wants my help in many ways...
this is the reason why i just dont bother discussing this on the net
i believe and always will everyone should do what they want im no better that i have had srs than if i didnt and i never treat anyone any better or worse
it was my decision and im happy i made it and i will always say it is not for everyone

Dina

crayons
06-05-2007, 12:56 AM
Watching him very closely. :evil:






Shemales or Women
I prefer shemales more that I like Women
Even though I like shemales, I still prefer a woman or shemales


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Even though most of us consider shemales women with a little extra, do you still like women more? I asked this because in a thread I once read that when this guy say an attractive GG, he would think to himself "It's a shame she doesn't have a dick". It's really everything about the femininity of the shemale to me rather than what she has in her pants because if she had nothing but two assholes it wouldn't matter to me its just her body and face and I'd just have to make it work.


PS: TS girls on this forum please don't feel like you are being objectified by this thread its just a curious question.



BTW: I did a search on this and there were way too many topics to search through and they had no correlation to this one.

OMG, I swear I almost pissed myself reading this. I'm still teary eyed. I'm now going back to read all his early posts. CLASSIC.

ilovetgirls36
06-05-2007, 01:01 AM
they had the surgery they always wanted..so they have to be happy ...and now they are women...thats all they care ...now they can put on panties they allways wanted..even if their vagina doesent look like a vagina...are they really happy ?....they have to be ...they cant go back ,can they..

hondarobot
06-05-2007, 01:06 AM
i dotn have a problem with post op pussy at all.

but with some people carrying one. as with all people who think they r something better. some post ops see the time after surgery as a free ticket to look down on other people who dont wanna follow their footseps.

great for you if you felt the need to become "heterosexual mainstream" and undertook everything it took until u felt satisfied.

but can u imagine that, for a considerable number of people i suppose, a big part of attraction of this tgirls mondo bizarro is that "shades of gray" effect - nor black or white, nor woman or man. and htis has nothing to do with sex.

its a bit ironic that some of u post ops seem so obsessed with genitalia as the "cock-bandits" u loath.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Well, it's obviously a very complicated subject and people who are not TS are going to find some things very complicated.

I think most guys go through three stages:

1: "That girl is fuckin hot! Huh? She's TS? OK, I'm all about TS girls then."

2: "Fuckin A! Now she thinks I'm a tranny chaser. I guess I'm not all about TS girls. Good God, what the hell am I suppose to do now?"

And then stage three hits some years later:

3: "Why can't she just wear a t-shirt and jeans for the video? She doesn't have to wear a damn bikini all the time!"

Heh.

The whole subject is so vastly complicated, and yet very simple, lots of guys never really figure things out.

:slimer

londonrussianblond
06-05-2007, 01:10 AM
they had the surgery they always wanted..so they have to be happy ...and now they are women...thats all they care ...now they can put on panties they allways wanted..even if their vagina doesent look like a vagina...are they really happy ?....they have to be ...they cant go back ,can they..actually you can go back if u want to,,, theres a very famous trans person over here called "samantha kane" who is a male to female trans,, who regretted the surgery,, and recently took out her implants,, started male hormone treatment,, cut her hair,, paid more than £30,000 to reconstruct a penis,,, like the same for a female to male surgery,, so you can go back if u want !!!! and its not about wanting to wear panties hunny!!! i wanted a pussy,, end of,, and got wot i wanted,,,,

ilovetgirls36
06-05-2007, 01:16 AM
they had the surgery they always wanted..so they have to be happy ...and now they are women...thats all they care ...now they can put on panties they allways wanted..even if their vagina doesent look like a vagina...are they really happy ?....they have to be ...they cant go back ,can they..actually you can go back if u want to,,, theres a very famous trans person over here called "samantha kane" who is a male to female trans,, who regretted the surgery,, and recently took out her implants,, started male hormone treatment,, cut her hair,, paid more than £30,000 to reconstruct a penis,,, like the same for a female to male surgery,, so you can go back if u want !!!! and its not about wanting to wear panties hunny!!! i wanted a pussy,, end of,, and got wot i wanted,,,,

ilovetgirls36
06-05-2007, 01:18 AM
good for you...now you can wear those panties you always wanted to wear

peggygee
06-05-2007, 01:19 AM
Am I right, that one big factor in depth is a girl's penis size to start with?

Big dick = a big pussy for the most part. :shrug

In the penile inversion SRS technique the penile
skin forms the canal of the neo-vagina. With a
person who has a small vagina, scrotal tissue or
tissue from other parts of the body can be grafted
to increase depth.

Another method is the sigmoid colon technique of SRS. Through
this technique the vagina is self lubricating. Another advantage
is depth, a vagina constructed by this technique could have
depths of 8 - 9 inches.

peggygee
06-05-2007, 01:28 AM
And now to lighten the mood;

This from the Quentin Tarrantinos,

1996 movie From Dusk Till Dawn:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/dusktoawn.jpg


The immortal words of Chet Pussy as

played by Cheech Marin:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/chetpussy5x4.jpg



Chet Pussy: All right, pussy, pussy, pussy!

Come on in pussy lovers! Here at the Titty

Twister we're slashing pussy in half! Give us

an offer on our vast selection of pussy, this is

a pussy blow out! All right, we got white pussy,

black pussy, Spanish pussy, yellow pussy,

post op pussy, we got hot pussy,

cold pussy, we got wet pussy, we got



[sniffs]

Chet Pussy: smelly pussy, we got hairy pussy,

bloody pussy, we got snappin' pussy, we got

silk pussy, velvet pussy, Naugahyde pussy,

we even got horse pussy, dog pussy,

chicken pussy! Come on, you want pussy,

come on in, pussy lovers! If we don't got it,

you don't want it! Come on in, pussy lovers!

:roll:

londonrussianblond
06-05-2007, 01:32 AM
And now to lighten the mood;

This from the Quentin Tarrantinos,

1996 movie From Dusk Till Dawn:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/dusktoawn.jpg


The immortal words of Chet Pussy as

played by Cheech Marin:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/chetpussy5x4.jpg



Chet Pussy: All right, pussy, pussy, pussy!

Come on in pussy lovers! Here at the Titty

Twister we're slashing pussy in half! Give us

an offer on our vast selection of pussy, this is

a pussy blow out! All right, we got white pussy,

black pussy, Spanish pussy, yellow pussy,

post op pussy, we got hot pussy,

cold pussy, we got wet pussy, we got



[sniffs]

Chet Pussy: smelly pussy, we got hairy pussy,

bloody pussy, we got snappin' pussy, we got

silk pussy, velvet pussy, Naugahyde pussy,

we even got horse pussy, dog pussy,

chicken pussy! Come on, you want pussy,

come on in, pussy lovers! If we don't got it,

you don't want it! Come on in, pussy lovers!

:roll:girl you crack me up!!!! love it love it!!!

Jake 3
06-05-2007, 01:51 AM
I love post-ops!!! But I really don't know why. I wish I didn't because there are almost none out there and it's really frustrating. To me there is nothing sexier. I wish there were sites like this devoted to post-op girls exclusively. Some of us really do appreciate you gals. I'm a photographer and my fantasy project would be a coffee table book of " The World's Most Beautiful Post op Girls". Really sexy shots in lingerie and bikinis etc... If any of you want to send your photos to me, I promise to keep my comments to myself. I can dream can't I.

peggygee
06-05-2007, 01:55 AM
girl you crack me up!!!! love it love it!!!

That's edu-tainment. :wink:

See, if you just hit them with boring facts and opinions,
they will go to sleep and avoid your posts.

But spice it up with humor, and sometimes a little T & A, C
and maybe a little V, and now they're hot for teacher, and
can't wait to get to school.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/sexyteach.jpg

Vicki Richter
06-05-2007, 01:57 AM
A 10 page thread about post-ops and the only doctor who gets named is Meltzer. This is dumb.

KellyShore
06-05-2007, 02:02 AM
Dr. Reed does incredible work.

when I worked in a laser company I got to see the before and after surgeries from girls we served.

Not to mention my bosses were both post-op transexuals. She had her work done by Dr. Reed and she had a beautiful vagina. Along with my friend Arica she also went to him, and came back with beautiful artistic work.

A lot of our girls did go to Meltzer and Brassard.

Some went to Suporn.

However I think the best work I saw was from Reed.

But NONE let me repeat NONE looked mutialated or gross. They looked anatomically correct and pretty.

I saw a thread on here someone posted of girls in porn that are now post op, and some of the works he posted wasn't the best looking work. But who knows who they went to, or how long they had their new part before doing those photos.

peggygee
06-05-2007, 02:03 AM
A 10 page thread about post-ops and the only doctor who gets named is Meltzer. This is dumb.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=15156&start=0

Dr. Preecha Tiewtranon, MD

http://www.pai.co.th/

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Gender Reassignment Surgery

Services
Price(US$) Deposit(US$) Offer(US$)

Male to Female (MtF)
Penile Skin Inversion / Vaginal Plasty Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 7,500 750
Sigmoid Colon/ Rectosigmoid Vaginoplasty/ Rectosigmoid Colon Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 9,500 950
Labiaplasty (Repair) Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 300
Bilateral Orchiectomy (BO) Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 3,000 200
Aesthetic Revision Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 3,150 300

Breast
Breast Augmentation / Augmentation Mammoplasty Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 2,800 280
Breast Lift / Mastopexy Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 400
Breast Reduction Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 400

Facial Feminization Surgery (FFS)
Full Face Lift Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,500 450
Mini Face Lift Local Anesthesia 2,500 200
General Anesthesia 3,500 200
Forehead Lift (Lower Hairline) 4,000 400
Lip Augmentation (Fat Injection) 600 60
Upper Eyelid Surgery 600 60
Lower Eyelid Surgery 600 60
Rhinoplasty (Nose Reconstruction) Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 400
Otoplasty 1,050 100
Fat Injection 700 70
Brow Lift and Bony Contouring Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 3,500 200
Cheek Bone Augmentation Local Anesthesia 1,050 100
General Anesthesia 3,000 210
Cheek Bone Contouring Local Anesthesia 2,100 210
General Anesthesia 3,600 360
Chin Augmentation 1,050 100
Chin Shaving / Bone Contouring Local Anesthesia 1,050 100
General Anesthesia 3,000 200
Jaw Contouring Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 3,000 200
Hair Transplantation US$1,500-US$2,700
Mandibular Angle Resection Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia US$4,000 US$400

Adam's Apple
Adamís apple Contouring Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 1,800 180

Body Contouring
Abdominoplasty Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 200
Liposuction Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 2,500 200
Liposuction : Each extra point Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 600

Female to Male (FtM)
Female to Male Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia start at US$7,875. Check for more information Please check at each stage deposit requirment

Gluteal implant
Gluteal implant ( Silicone-gel filled smooth and textured surface) Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia US$4,000 US$400

Penile Enlargement
Penile Girth (widening) Enhancement with Lengthening Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia US$6,500 650
Penile Lengthening Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia US$ 3,000 300
Penile Enhancement Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia US$ 4,000 400


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Aesthetic Plastic Surgery
Services
Price(US$) Deposit(US$) Offer(US$)

Facial Contouring
Forehead Lift Local Anesthesia 2,500 200
General Anesthesia 3,500 200
Mini Face Lift Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 3,500 200
Full Face Lift Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,500 450

Eye Surgery
Lower Eyelid Surgery 600 60
Upper Eyelid Surgery 600 60

Rhinoplasty
Total Nasal Surgery (Reduction), Nose Reconstruction Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 400
Tip Rhinoplasty 1,000 100
Augmentation Rhinoplasty (Silicone) 840 80
Nose Reconstruction Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia US$4,000 US$400

Cheek Bone Contouring
Cheek Reduction 3,675 365
Cheek Augmentation (Silicone) / Malar Augmentation Local Anesthesia 1,050 100
General Anesthesia 2,100 210

Lip Surgery
Lip Reduction 600 50
Lip Enhancement (Fat Injection) 600 60

Chin Surgery
Chin Shaving / Bone Contouring Local Anesthesia 1,100 200
General Anesthesia 3,000 200
Chin Augmentation 1,050 100

Ear Surgery
Ear Pinning (Otoplasty) 1,050 100

Hair Transplantation
Hair Grafting 1,500-2,700

Breast
Breast Lift / Mastopexy Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 200
Breast Reduction / Reduction Mammaplasty / Male Breast Reduction (Gynecomastia) Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 200
Breast Augmentation / Augmentation Mammoplasty 2,800 280

Body Contouring
Fat Injection (Minor) 600 60
Abdominoplasty (Tummy Tuck) Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 4,000 200
Lipoplasty Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 2,500 200
Lipoplasty : Each exta point Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 600

Botox Injection
Botox Injection Local Anesthesia 300-500 50
General Anesthesia 600-700 60

Jaw Contouring
Jaw Contouring Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia 3,000 200

Mandibular Angle Resection, Gonioplasty
Mandibular Angle Resection, Gonioplasty Local Anesthesia
General Anesthesia US$4,000 US$200

Labiaplasty
Labiaplasty (Repair) Local Anesthesia 800
General Anesthesia 3,000 - 4,000 300

peggygee
06-05-2007, 02:04 AM
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peggygee
06-05-2007, 02:19 AM
Dr. Reed does incredible work.

when I worked in a laser company I got to see the before and after surgeries from girls we served.

Not to mention my bosses were both post-op transexuals. She had her work done by Dr. Reed and she had a beautiful vagina. Along with my friend Arica she also went to him, and came back with beautiful artistic work.

A lot of our girls did go to Meltzer and Brassard.

Some went to Suporn.

However I think the best work I saw was from Reed.

But NONE let me repeat NONE looked mutialated or gross. They looked anatomically correct and pretty.

I saw a thread on here someone posted of girls in porn that are now post op, and some of the works he posted wasn't the best looking work. But who knows who they went to, or how long they had their new part before doing those photos.

Great, great surgeons, you can't go wrong with any of those.

Of those listed, I would opt for Suporn.

He's a great surgeon, is able to give outstanding results, and
his price will still be lower than any US, or Canadian surgeon.

Other Thai surgeons I like are Chettawutt and Kamol.

If my daughter was going to LOS for GRS, my vote;

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/Voting_Woman.gif

1. Suporn

2. Preecha

3. Saran

4. Chettawutt

Dr. Chet

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/Dr.jpg

http://www.chet-plasticsurgery.com/

5. Kamol
http://mtfsurgery.com/index.php

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/thailan_Hz.gif

(LOS - Land Of Smiles - Thailand) 8)

peggygee
06-05-2007, 03:32 AM
Some down under - for your down under. :oops:

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Gender Dysphoria Clinic,
Department of Adult Psychiatry,
Monash Medical Centre
246 Clayton Road, Clayton, 3168
Phone 03 8541 6303

Dr Trudy Kennedy
1/545 St Kilda Road, Melbourne 3004.
Phone 03 9510 3446

The Brisbane Gender Clinic
484 Adelaide Street, Brisbane, 4000.
Phone 07 3227 8679

Cavanaugh Medical Centre,
90 Woods Street,
Darwin, 0800

Dr Linda Hoffman
Ground Floor,
St. Helens Private Hospital,
186 Macquarie Street, Hobart, 7000.
Phone 002 23 2872

Dr John Graham
Ashford Specialist Centre,
Anzac Highway, Ashford
Phone 08 8297 0888
Fax 08 8297 0060

Dr Peter Haertsch
Suite 209, 2 Pembroke Street, Epping, 2121.
Phone 02 98685155

The Gender Centre
PO Box 266,
Petersham, 2048
Phone 02 95692366 (business hours)

Vicki Richter
06-05-2007, 04:04 AM
I've heard of all those doctors, and I don't need a price list, but I have seen terrible and good results from each of them Peggy. That is why I was more looking more for personal opinions and real observations since photos are harder to find than Fergie.

KellyShore
06-05-2007, 04:24 AM
I've heard of all those doctors, and I don't need a price list, but I have seen terrible and good results from each of them Peggy. That is why I was more looking more for personal opinions and real observations since photos are harder to find than Fergie. Vicki a lot of the girls that went to Dr. Reed have personal websites that show before and afters. I can get you the info.

NYTSJulie
06-05-2007, 04:26 AM
I have seen many post-op twats and like any other surgery the results can vary. It depends on what doctor you go to and it also depends on the aftercare.

A girl I knew in Ohio showed me hers and my friend was daring enough to stick her finger in it. She was only able to get her finger in 1/2 way, about 2 inches. It didnt look like a pussy on the outside either. I felt bad for the girl, but she was all ecstatic that she had a "pussy", I didnt want to burst her bubble and let her know it was more of a pocket then a pussy. She had it done in Thailand for about 4K

Then another friend of mine went to Canada and spent 16K. Its about 6 1/2 inches deep and looks 100 percent like a pussy.

So it depends on the doctor, the method he uses, and the aftercare of dilatation. Also some girls need labiaplasty after.

You are as bad as the guys. Everyone has a friend of a friend and nobody knows who they went to. Who did the bad pussy? Who did the good one?

LOL Vicki,

No one was a friend of a friend. The girls I am talking about are or were all friends of mine.

The good one went to Dr. Menard in Canada last year. Hers looks great, but to be honest she could use labiaplasty. It looks 100 percent like a pussy but the lips are large. The fact that she is older and a little chunky makes the larger lips look suitable on her.

Menard does a one step surgery. I have know other girls who went to Menard and they all have been happy with the results. The only complaint I have heard about him is the lager labia, and this is due to the one step procedure he does. Some went and had labiaplasty afterwards.

The one with bad results went to Dr. Pichet in Thailand. I dont think she did any dilatation after, and this could be the reason her SRS seemed poor. I am not friends with this girl any longer.

Another ex friend Leslie Townsend, she wrote a book "Hidden in Plain Sight". She went to Dr. Biber who is now retired. He turned over his practice to Marcy Bowers and he personally trained her. My friend was very happy with the results from Biber, but I have not heard good things about Dr. Bowers. One girl I chatted with has 4 inches after Dr. Bowers.

The one who I have heard the best reviews on is Dr. Schrang. He is now retired but I think he was the Dr. O of SRS. The BEST in the game.

I think a 2 step procedure will give the best results. If I had to pick a surgeon out of the ones around today I would go with Dr. Meltzer in AZ.

NYTSJulie
06-05-2007, 04:31 AM
I have seen many post-op twats and like any other surgery the results can vary. It depends on what doctor you go to and it also depends on the aftercare.

A girl I knew in Ohio showed me hers and my friend was daring enough to stick her finger in it. She was only able to get her finger in 1/2 way, about 2 inches. It didnt look like a pussy on the outside either. I felt bad for the girl, but she was all ecstatic that she had a "pussy", I didnt want to burst her bubble and let her know it was more of a pocket then a pussy. She had it done in Thailand for about 4K

Then another friend of mine went to Canada and spent 16K. Its about 6 1/2 inches deep and looks 100 percent like a pussy.

So it depends on the doctor, the method he uses, and the aftercare of dilatation. Also some girls need labiaplasty after.

You are as bad as the guys. Everyone has a friend of a friend and nobody knows who they went to. Who did the bad pussy? Who did the good one?

LOL Vicki,

No one was a friend of a friend. The girls I am talking about are or were all friends of mine.

The good one went to Dr. Menard in Canada last year. Hers looks great, but to be honest she could use labiaplasty. It looks 100 percent like a pussy but the lips are large. The fact that she is older and a little chunky makes the larger lips look suitable on her.

Menard does a one step surgery. I have know other girls who went to Menard and they all have been happy with the results. The only complaint I have heard about him is the lager labia, and this is due to the one step procedure he does. Some went and had labiaplasty afterwards.

The one with bad results went to Dr. Pichet in Thailand. I dont think she did any dilatation after, and this could be the reason her SRS seemed poor. I am not friends with this girl any longer.

Another ex friend Leslie Townsend, she wrote a book "Hidden in Plain Sight". She went to Dr. Biber who is now retired. He turned over his practice to Marcy Bowers and he personally trained her. My friend was very happy with the results from Biber, but I have not heard good things about Dr. Bowers. One girl I chatted with has 4 inches after Dr. Bowers.

The one who I have heard the best reviews on is Dr. Schrang. He is now retired but I think he was the Dr. O of SRS. The BEST in the game.

I think a 2 step procedure will give the best results. If I had to pick a surgeon out of the ones around today I would go with Dr. Meltzer in AZ.

Also the one who went to Menard last year has had intercourse and oral sex several times and no one has clocked it.

Fetish Fanatic
06-05-2007, 07:39 AM
My whole opinion on the post op thing and them wanting to get rid of the tool. If it's not broke don't fix it. There are countless men who don't care. If a woman is beautiful she's beautiful regardless if she has a nice big dick O_o

NYTSJulie
06-05-2007, 12:05 PM
My whole opinion on the post op thing and them wanting to get rid of the tool. If it's not broke don't fix it. There are countless men who don't care. If a woman is beautiful she's beautiful regardless if she has a nice big dick O_o

You sound very ignorant. Yes guys on HA dont care but there are a lot of guys who do care.

It often goes down like this......you meet a guy he doesn't know the "T", but he eventually finds out that your packing. He freaks out and is in shock. Once your attracted to someone it doesn't just go away that easily, so yes he still finds you hot, sexy and beautiful. He might want to go for it after he calms down from the shock but then you become a sex object and not as much of a person.

The chances are rare for an "average guy" who isn't into trannys to date a pre-op on a long term basis, UNLESS there is a deep emotional connection before hand. If not then the chance he will stick around is very slim.

Thats why a lot of girls go post-op, cause its easier in many cases.

suckseed
06-05-2007, 12:52 PM
But hopefully people do things for themselves and not for what others think.

Ecstatic
06-19-2007, 05:37 AM
I have two post-op friends; one I've photographed (she approached me about doing it) and the other is a woman I've been intimate with a few times. Both have lovely pussies. The one I've known in the biblical sense told me that she had to have her vaginoplasty done twice, because the first surgeon botched the job. This does seem to be a real risk, and hence the benefit of more info about which surgeons are good and the like would be helpful, imho. But her second surgeon was able to correct the mistakes, and honestly, I can't tell the difference between hers and any genetic woman I've been with.

Again, most talk without names. Who botched the surgery? Isn't that useful information? Wouldn't that be helpful for the community? Of course you didn't think to ask. You are as useless on this topic as JWB. Who did the redo's? Lovely by what standards? Lovely like real looking or lovely like they don't look like a big meat hole like some of the other ones?

Come on.
Follow-up Post for Vicki: I haven't seen my Vietnamese friend in a while, but I did see my Laotian friend today and I asked her who did her vaginoplasty. She said she had it done 15 years ago in Thailand by Dr. Pricha (sp?) and is very happy with the results. Her pre-op friend laughed and said it's big enough to put your foot in. I didn't get that close, lol.

peggygee
06-19-2007, 05:46 AM
She said she had it done 15 years ago in Thailand by Dr. Pricha (sp?) and is very happy with the results. Her pre-op friend laughed and said it's big enough to put your foot in. I didn't get that close, lol.

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=15156&start=0

Dr. Preecha Tiewtranon, MD

http://www.pai.co.th/

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/pai_tream5x2.jpg

ToyBoy6669
06-19-2007, 07:57 AM
NYTSJulie Wrote: Also the one who went to Menard last year has had intercourse and oral sex several times and no one has clocked it.


I would leap at the chance to try!
and they way you make it sounds turns my curiosity into lusty desire lol


also, to all of the transgender community all members of all persuasions, there will always be ignorant people who are willing to take others feelings into consideration simply because the don't want too, seek out YOUR OWN truth and be kind to those in your life and pity those who choose to remain ignorant of what they could have with someone.

People, far to many in fact, never bother to look in the box just because the package is unique.
*spelling fixed for god sakes*

peggygee
05-04-2008, 06:50 PM
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/bump-1.gif

Bumped, for educational purposes

vietboy
05-04-2008, 09:21 PM
My whole opinion on the post op thing and them wanting to get rid of the tool. If it's not broke don't fix it. There are countless men who don't care. If a woman is beautiful she's beautiful regardless if she has a nice big dick O_o

You sound very ignorant. Yes guys on HA dont care but there are a lot of guys who do care.
He's just gay with an insular mindset. Gays like him are like the ghosts in The Sixth Sense...

Cole Sear: I see [gay] people.
Malcolm Crowe: In your dreams?
[Cole shakes his head no]
Malcolm Crowe: While you're awake?
[Cole nods] ...
Cole Sear: ... They only see what they want to see. They don't know they're [gay].
Malcolm Crowe: How often do you see them?
Cole Sear: All the time. They're everywhere.

tghtpussybitch
05-08-2008, 12:56 PM
another Meltzer Girl,, but I think the millenium new pussy are from Suporn in Thailand,, ,,


by the way top one is my pussy cat,,



A 10 page thread about post-ops and the only doctor who gets named is Meltzer. This is dumb.

tghtpussybitch
05-08-2008, 01:02 PM
my pussy is the bottom.

I had my labiaplasty with Meltzer one thing Meltzer doesn't do is the pink vulva,,

My vaginoplasty was peform by Schrang who is now retired..