************The Rules Of HungAngels*************

[thanos]

Suggest one.
Debate the one above you.
Call any rule bullshit.
This is your chance to decide the direction of these forums, don't miss out.


Anddddddddddd Go!

[LG]

Thank you for giving us all this chance Thanos to come up with suggestions.

I think the mods are doing a great job and, personally, I love this place, which is why I keep coming back for more. But I have some suggestions:

- Creating three areas for the posts that would normally go into the Discussion forum. A separate area for polls, another for porn pics and another for transgender-related news items
- Creating new rankings and renaming 'Certified Tranny Expert' to 'Certified Transsexual Expert'
- Requiring that, in order to become a CTE, 50% or more of posts must be in the General Forum (or in one of the categories that this may be split up into, if my first suggestion is taken on board).
- Stopping spammers by requiring new members to type in a piece of text shown on the webpage, or by some other way.
- Finding a way to stop people from re-registering more than once or twice when banned, by banning an IP address. A single ban may be forgivable, but if you are banned again and again you should be banned for life.
- Keeping a members directory or list (there was something like this once, I think).
- Finding ways to get more girls to come here or members like Gia and Danielle to return.
- A little more moderation in the Politics forum so that flame wars don't keep flaring up.

Those are some ideas I feel could improve the forums. I'll try to think of some more.

[TomSelis]

Damn, this was a long time coming.

I agree with LG though, some sub-forums to general discussion would be helpful because as it is, anything goes. Even after the politics and sports boards were created.

The mods, I guess, could come up with a list of bannable offenses.

Some boards have a feature where, if you hover the mouse over a topic you get a preview of what it's about. I find myself doing that and nothing pops up out of habit. That would be helpful.

That's all I can think of really.

[tubgirl]

i agree with LG and tom, with a few twists:

1. to keep spammers away, make a poster have a minimum post count before they can start a thread.

2. ip bans don't always work. sometimes people are in block ips.

3. the "hover" function tom is talking about is great...

[TomSelis]

Yeah, plus I thought most people have dynamic IP's, which would make banning kind of difficult, no?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

- Finding ways to get more girls to come here or members like Gia and Danielle to return.

they never left they just don't log in



- A little more moderation in the Politics forum so that flame wars don't keep flaring up.


I don't agree with this, that forum holds some wonderful convos it's been on it's on and it just flows perfectly, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Never had one person pm me about something typed in that forum.

With that out the way...................

I suggested months ago a Health-type forum, there seems to be a bunch of people that have questions and seek answers from others on HA. Nothing wrong with that, some of us just don't want to log into Gen Disc. and see "What's this bump on my [insert here]?!?" on occasion.........

but that's NOT a rule; it's a suggestion which is what I've read alot of in this thread...............

as far as rules go:
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

1) The discussion of pedophilia of any sort is prohibited.
2) Do not take anything too seriously. Remember, these are just words, and this is just a forum to discuss topics.
3) If you post a thread, and it gets deleted, it means we meant to delete it. Do not vent in the forum, do not whine to another mod about it, it’s a dead issue. If you post a reply, and it gets deleted, it means we meant to delete it. Again do not whine to another mod about it, it’s a dead issue.
4) If you post a thread, and it gets moved to another forum, it means we meant to move it. Don’t whine about it, bitch about it to a mod, again it’s a dead issue.
5) Do not post false information. Do not make assertions or accusations without stating their basis.
6) Avatars must be limited to a maximum of 150 pixels x 150 pixels.
7) The right to make fun of stupid people has and will always be welcomed and allowed. If you sign on and make a dumb statement anyone is allowed to make fun of it & you.
8) Your signature should contain either a quote of your preference or a link to ONE website. That website link should pertain to something involving you DIRECTLY!!!!!!!!!! This means no multiple links with your myspace, xpeeps, yahoo group(s), msn group(s), etc.
9) Do not "share" information from this website anywhere else.
10) Do not copy reviews, warnings, "informational posts", public service announcements OR ANYTHING ELSE from sites such as CL, TER, SER, etc. You may post a CL advertisement for joke purposes, keep in mind if you do to delete any telephone #’s, addresses, or other personal info that might be in that ad.
11) A provider/escort or the client/customer/john/trick (whatever) can't come on the board in ANY SECTION discussing anything that happened between the 2 of them personally.
12) Members can't bombard moderators with links to threads they have problems with expecting immediate results which IF AREN'T handled immediately result in sly comments about the moderation working poorly in the forums. Members should hand in a private message as a complaint to each moderator with an excerpt of what bothered them, what thread it came from, etc.
13) Escorts/Providers MUST USE the personals section to advertise themselves, NOT GEN. DISCUSSION....................
14) If you have a problem with a moderator, speak to that moderator; attempt to work things out one on one. DO NOT RUN to another moderator complaining about other mod’s actions. The moderators are for the most part a close knit group of people who discuss the ins & outs of the board on a near daily basis. Any attempts to play the “run to the other parent” trick will just get you laughed at over a shot of the mod’s choice of alcohol at the weekly/monthly party. Contrary to belief the odds of a moderator on HA being relieved of his/her position is rarer than a woman in the projects with more than 4 kids not having a c-section scar.
15) No more “I’m leaving HA because…………………………….” Threads. Who cares?!? If you are going to leave man up & leave.
16) MY PERSONAL FAVORITE: SPELL CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With the exception of our foreign friends who are doing their best to fit in with their limited English, in this day & age everyone has access to a web browser that has an add-on that not only checks your spelling on the fly BUT CORRECTS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one should have to sift through your thread/reply and guess what you meant when a spell check would have told them instantly what you meant.
17) NO LINKS TO sites containing short clips of movies you think others might be interested in. Some sites might be hidden in the links sections of said sites that might not be agreeable with your operating system, if you get my drift.
18) If you are going to discuss torrent sites, discuss the sites, DO NOT post links to files on that torrent site, especially if they are files involving various females doing wicked sex acts on film.


more to come

[chefmike]

All good points by JWBL, especially the one about not needing more moderation in the P & R forum!

[LG]

- Finding ways to get more girls to come here or members like Gia and Danielle to return.
they never left they just don't log in
I know they continue to be members, but I'm just wondering what drove them away and how we can get the to come back



- A little more moderation in the Politics forum so that flame wars don't keep flaring up.

I don't agree with this, that forum holds some wonderful convos it's been on it's on and it just flows perfectly, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Never had one person pm me about something typed in that forum.

I guess you're right, and please don't think I blamed the mods, but sometimes arguments have gotten pretty ugly there, I think. But yes, on the whole there have been some fascinating topics and conversations.


With that out the way...................

I suggested months ago a Health-type forum, there seems to be a bunch of people that have questions and seek answers from others on HA. Nothing wrong with that, some of us just don't want to log into Gen Disc. and see "What's this bump on my [insert here]?!?" on occasion.........
I second that. It would be useful to have all that in a single area.

s far as rules go:
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

1. A provider/escort or the client/customer/john/trick (whatever) can't come on the board in ANY SECTION discussing anything that happened between the 2 of them personally.
Agreed 100%.

2. Members can't bombard moderators with links to threads they have problems with expecting immediate results which IF AREN'T handled immediately result in sly comments about the moderation working poorly in the forums. Members should hand in a private message as a complaint to each moderator with an excerpt of what bothered them, what thread it came from, etc.
Again I agree. A moderator's job is difficult enough as it is.

3. Escorts/Providers MUST USE the personals section to advertise themselves, NOT GEN. DISCUSSION....................

Again, I agree. Escorts should not use the General Discussion section to promote their services.

Another suggestion for a rule: All posts must be in English only. I'm not referring to members whose second language is English (they include myself) who may occasionally make mistakes, but to members who type in French, Italian or German to get their message to one particular other member or to insult someone.

[TJT]

Nothing particularly. I'ts about the same as 90% of BB's as is. Overmoderation can kill a board.

That being said here are two suggestions

1) A better filter to weed out the spammers. It seems like they've been increasing in the past two weeks.

2) A specific forum for porn pics/clips and fights. I hit a couple of boards that have just that feature.It helps immensely with level of discourse in the main forums and gives a place for members to go at it without the fights spreading over the board? Members know that's where you go to see the fights and do your whacking. If you take the fighting to the other boards you get warned,then banned.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Quick note: I sat down after I made breakfast and rewrote what I think would be adequate, it might be overkill, scroll up and take a look................


Nothing particularly. I'ts about the same as 90% of BB's as is. Overmoderation can kill a board.

That being said here are two suggestions

1) A better filter to weed out the spammers. It seems like they've been increasing in the past two weeks.

2) A specific forum for porn pics/clips and fights. I hit a couple of boards that have just that feature.It helps immensely with level of discourse in the main forums and gives a place for members to go at it without the fights spreading over the board? Members know that's where you go to see the fights and do your whacking. If you take the fighting to the other boards you get warned,then banned.

I agree completely with the concept of a fight club type forum. I would LOVE TO MODERATE THAT SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Until hell freezes over I still suggest anyone seriously wanting to duke it out see me and I'll be happy to make a voice chat room elsewhere until HA gets its own voice chat room.

[Kriss]

- A little more moderation in the Politics forum so that flame wars don't keep flaring up.

I don't agree with this, that forum holds some wonderful convos it's been on it's on and it just flows perfectly, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Never had one person pm me about something typed in that forum.


I assumed the POLITICS forum was just a kind of BIN where explosive threads can be dumped so they don't clutter the general disc forum. Let em flame away, there only seems to be like 5 or 6 members that post there anyway. I personally avoid it as i have not the time or patience to argue with the insane neo-cons that lurk there, these guys seem to just post here to spread pro-bush propaganda. what a waste of pixels. I mean Chefmike and others do a good job posting interesting stuff but the rightwingers are just too much, theres no reasoning with WMC or inhousten or guyone, total nutcases...........



as far as rules go:
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

1. A provider/escort or the client/customer/john/trick (whatever) can't come on the board in ANY SECTION discussing anything that happened between the 2 of them personally.
2. Members can't bombard moderators with links to threads they have problems with expecting immediate results which IF AREN'T handled immediately result in sly comments about the moderation working poorly in the forums. Members should hand in a private message as a complaint to each moderator with an excerpt of what bothered them, what thread it came from, etc.
3. Escorts/Providers MUST USE the personals section to advertise themselves, NOT GEN. DISCUSSION....................



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- Finding ways to get more girls to come here or members like Gia and Danielle to return.
they never left they just don't log in
I know they continue to be members, but I'm just wondering what drove them away and how we can get the to come back


offer them free promotion/advertising
failing that , girls always like flowers and expensive perfume............

[LG]

I agree completely with the concept of a fight club type forum. I would LOVE TO MODERATE THAT SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:
So if this is a member's first night on the forum, they have to fight...Would that actually require moderation?

In any case, you do not talk about fight club

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

to be fair the only other place the [girls] are getting this much free advertising is the Maury show, CL is full of bitches stealing pics from the women that post here daily...........

[TJT]

I used to help moderate a large non-sex board for a number of years,Johnny. Putting the fighting in it's own forum was the best thing we ever did.

It cutdown on the hassle of patrolling every thread on every forum and kept good members from getting banned who's only fault was they couldn't stand each other? People who didn't want to deal with the fights could simply avoid the forum.

We had a 100 post minimum for entrance to it for new members to keep the general shitstirrers at bay. Gave the mods and members a chance to size 'em up before letting them have full priviliges.

BTW,It could be waved for a newbie if a long time member in good standing knew and vouched for the person.

It works,but you've got to have thick skinned level headed mod to run it.

[LG]

- A little more moderation in the Politics forum so that flame wars don't keep flaring up.

I don't agree with this, that forum holds some wonderful convos it's been on it's on and it just flows perfectly, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Never had one person pm me about something typed in that forum.


I assumed the POLITICS forum was just a kind of BIN where explosive threads can be dumped so they don't clutter the general disc forum. Let em flame away, there only seems to be like 5 or 6 members that post there anyway. I personally avoid it as i have not the time or patience to argue with the insane neo-cons that lurk there, these guys seem to just post here to spread pro-bush propaganda. what a waste of pixels. I mean Chefmike and others do a good job posting interesting stuff but the rightwingers are just too much, theres no reasoning with WMC or inhousten or guyone, total nutcases...........


I'll assume you're grouping me with the "others", as I've often had to argue with some of the right-wingers over all kinds of issues. Lately, I've spent less time there...

I think the Politics forum could be a useful tool, but many of the arguments resort to flames. A lot of members used to post there but have left because it's become too much and I'd love to see members like Felicia Katt back once again.

[TomSelis]

Fight Club sounds cool. I'd back that one.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/lou_cypher/Fight_ClubHA.jpg

YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kriss]

- A little more moderation in the Politics forum so that flame wars don't keep flaring up.

I don't agree with this, that forum holds some wonderful convos it's been on it's on and it just flows perfectly, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Never had one person pm me about something typed in that forum.


I assumed the POLITICS forum was just a kind of BIN where explosive threads can be dumped so they don't clutter the general disc forum. Let em flame away, there only seems to be like 5 or 6 members that post there anyway. I personally avoid it as i have not the time or patience to argue with the insane neo-cons that lurk there, these guys seem to just post here to spread pro-bush propaganda. what a waste of pixels. I mean Chefmike and others do a good job posting interesting stuff but the rightwingers are just too much, theres no reasoning with WMC or inhousten or guyone, total nutcases...........


I'll assume you're grouping me with the "others", as I've often had to argue with some of the right-wingers over all kinds of issues. Lately, I've spent less time there...

I think the Politics forum could be a useful tool, but many of the arguments resort to flames. A lot of members used to post there but have left because it's become too much and I'd love to see members like Felicia Katt back once again.

Oh you are definately one of 'the others' (sane, informed people) LG.
Another reason io dont check the politics roomis that i would just be quoting you and saying "what he said" .
MUAH DARLING!!!!!

[LG]

Oh you are definately one of 'the others' (sane, informed people) LG.
Another reason io dont check the politics roomis that i would just be quoting you and saying "what he said" .
MUAH DARLING!!!!!

:D Thank you. It's good to know one's appreciated.

[Kriss]

FIGHT CLUB is the best idea yet, will cetainly thin the GEN DISC board out a bit.............



11) A provider/escort or the client/customer/john/trick (whatever) can't come on the board in ANY SECTION discussing anything that happened between the 2 of them personally

This is interesting. I must say that the BEST threads and the one that will probably bring the girls in are the ESCORT TALES, the classic example being the 'ts glam'/'cheapskate' (never liked the rascist title of that thread) FIASCO.
that shit is GOLD. If a john posts about a bad escort experience in maybe 'the reviews' section, the girl in question will soon hear of it and turn up with her version. surely thats unavoidable.

BY "personally" , do you mean stuff that goes on 'outside' of 'business hours'? (the lamentable personal threads by Gaurdian and 411 spring to mind)

I get that the 'back and forth ' shit between 2 members may cause trouble but that shit is hilarious, and if you want to bring in more ladies LG, TS women peruse this site is for GOSSIP!

[BeardedOne]

Great thread, Thanos. Just catching up to it (I'm so used to the Stickys being announcements for events that I can't attend :? ).

I like the suggestions on SPAM limitation/annihalation (Sp?*). I know of one forum that has a sort of membership application/review now that weeds out the spammers. Somewhat of a 24-hour waiting period or somesuch. I've also seen the graphic 'password' windows, where the person has to type in the letters/numbers from a graphic image that can't be scammed by cut-n-paste search scripts. While these methods may not entirely eliminate spam, they add a bit of an obstacle course of entry that many spammers are too lazy to navigate.

Kudos to LG for the initial suggestions, quoted below. BTW LG, if you have to stick with the monkeyman as an avatar, might I suggest Dr. Zeus from the original Planet of the Apes flick? He even has a theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shY8wsrm5jc


- Creating new rankings and renaming 'Certified Tranny Expert' to 'Certified Transsexual Expert'

While the latter seems a bit too clinical and too close to claiming a PhD in the subject, I do agree that 'Tranny' can be considered derogatory by some (Not just the gurls, but the members en masse as well). Perhaps something lighthearted yet educated: 'Professor of T Studies'? Nah, that's =too= eductaed. :smh


- Requiring that, in order to become a CTE, 50% or more of posts must be in the General Forum (or in one of the categories that this may be split up into, if my first suggestion is taken on board).

At the very least, figuring out some way of discounting the "Me too" posts. I've recently noticed that a handful of regulars like myself, Ecstatic, Seanchai, etc. have more than 3k in posts under our belts. Yet, in each case (And I'm not just tootin' my own horn here, I leave it to others to toot me. :wink: ) the posts were typically relevant, well thought out, detailed, and entertaining or informative (Did I use enough adjectives there? I can run down to the local Stop-n-Rob and get more if needed.) Yet there are a few members that are near or beyond that number of posts with the majority being variations of "Yeah", "Co-sign", and "LOL".

Ferchrissake, people, if you have the time to peruse the forum you have the time to type out more than "LOL" in response. Cutting and pasting/quoting the previous poster's three-page diatribe, followed by your own "Co-sign" doesn't count. :x


- Finding a way to stop people from re-registering more than once or twice when banned, by banning an IP address. A single ban may be forgivable, but if you are banned again and again you should be banned for life.

Though I work regularly with a bunch of technogeeks (To the point that I realized, just a few days ago, that now that one of them is famous, hanging out with him is a legitimate, deductible business expense. Woo-hoo!), I still haven't quite grasped how IP's, 'mac addresses', etc. operate. That said, trolls, like mice and squirrels and other undesirable rodentia, will migrate to the easiest source of sustainance. In short: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS! No matter what kind of exclusion and sanitation you use (To those unfamiliar, these are popular pest control terms), if they find a nurturing environment (ie: People that they can consistantly and regularly piss on/off), they'll find ways to get in.


- Keeping a members directory or list (there was something like this once, I think).

I don't recall seeing that here at HA, but I have seen it elsewhere. Nothing spectacular or privacy-threatening, just a members list with basics like date joined, number of posts, links, etc. Essentially just a library of profile pages.


- Finding ways to get more girls to come here or members like Gia and Danielle to return.

More manners, less towel-snapping. Unfortunately, not something the forum itself (Or the mods) can promote/enforce. :shrug


Some boards have a feature where, if you hover the mouse over a topic you get a preview of what it's about.

Another forum I frequent has just started using this feature. It highlights the initial post and has the option to jump to the last post in the thread (For those hot topics that gather 100+ posts in the first day). This also helps sort out spam in that the topic might say "Hot T-Gurls In Action" while the initial post sez "Lower your mortgage rate now!".


- A little more moderation in the Politics forum so that flame wars don't keep flaring up.


I don't agree with this, that forum holds some wonderful convos it's been on it's on and it just flows perfectly, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Never had one person pm me about something typed in that forum.

I'm with Johnny on this. Politics and Religion is all about a slugfest, be it in ideas/idealogy, words, or fisticuffs. I was soooooooo glad when it was banished to its own section of the board. I still peek in now and then, but generally stay out because I have enough stress issues in my life. P & R is all about difference of opinion, challenge, and argument. By nature, there is no moderation. Short of people making distinct threats to one another, the mods are best served by just staying out until they see/smell smoke.


I suggested months ago a Health-type forum, there seems to be a bunch of people that have questions and seek answers from others on HA.

Excellent idea, though you are likely to see two avenues here. Example "How do I protect myself during anal sex?" (A health issue) and "What's your best advice for a first-timer to anal sex?" (Could be considered both a helath issue and one of social/general discussion, ie: Technique/preference).

And then Johnny got biz-ZAY! To be continued...


*I don't use spell check because I paid attention in school and get it right about 99% of the time. I also subscribe to the view expressed by Mark Twain/Samuel Clements: "Anyone that knows only one way to spell a word lacks imagination". :)

[Ecstatic]

Another suggestion for a rule: All posts must be in English only. I'm not referring to members whose second language is English (they include myself) who may occasionally make mistakes, but to members who type in French, Italian or German to get their message to one particular other member or to insult someone.
I disagree with this one, LG. First of all, we'd have to have a board-qualified definition of what constitutes English (what about jargon, l33tsp3k or however you write that, Eubonics, etc.?), and what would be so bad about some folks conversing amongst themselves in their own language? Use bablefish for a rough translation if you must know what they're on about. Though maybe a separate forum for farangs would work, lol.

Splitting into multiple subforums is always tempting, but the dilution tends to work against itself as most people tend to hang in the main forum, I think. So some additional diversity would be good--including maybe finally splitting the porn pics out from the general discussion--but I wouldn't want to go too far.

[BeardedOne]

Part deux... (Yah, it's a slow day here)


1) The discussion of pedophilia of any sort is prohibited.

You know that ain't gonna happen. Bad shit happens, people talk. Best example is the poor Chicago schmuck that scolded a little girl for running out into the street in front of his car. Because he touched her during his lecture (Holding her by the arm), he is now a registered sex offender for "molesting" the girl. :roll: I have a registered sex offender living a few doors down the block, convicted of statutory rape. Caveat: He is now married to his "victim". Her parents didn't approve of the relationship and, when she was still seventeen, called the cops. It's all relative.

I know from whence this suggestion came, and why, and I agree it was all a major shitstorm, but somewhere, somehow, someday, someone is going to blow shit into the discussion, however righteous or misled. You can make all the roolz you want about it, it ain't gonna stop. :shrug .


[Variations on a theme] and it gets deleted, it means we meant to delete it. Do not vent in the forum, do not whine to another mod about it, it’s a dead issue.

Jeez, guy, you could have saved a lot of typin' time there. :lol:

Condensed: Piss, moan, bitch, cry, whine and cheese. Don't waste your time (Or theirs).


5) Do not post false information. Do not make assertions or accusations without stating their basis.

If you lie, you will eventually be caught out. If you lie big, you will fall far. Just ask the Brookline Police.


7) The right to make fun of stupid people has and will always be welcomed and allowed. If you sign on and make a dumb statement anyone is allowed to make fun of it & you.

Stoopid is as stoopid does. Poor spelling or grammar is not, inherently, stoopid. Saying "This may be a stupid question" does not necessarily make it so. If you are, or are perceived as =GENUINELY= stoopid, people will tell you. Quickly.

BTW, 'stoopid' is my own spelling of the word and enhances the ignorance of the reference. Supported by Lennie Peterson and his comic strip "The Big Picture".


8 ) Your signature should contain either a quote of your preference or a link to ONE website. That website link should pertain to something involving you DIRECTLY!!!!!!!!!! This means no multiple links with your myspace, xpeeps, yahoo group(s), msn group(s), etc.

I have one in mine, www.bestcoyotevideo.com , because I have to eat. I haven't seen much grief in the multiples, though. Does it cause a problem from the mod level?


9) Do not "share" information from this website anywhere else.

I tell "The Wife" (A title, not a relationship), does that count? She is thinking of joining (Oh, joy, another GG commenting on breast augmentation :roll: ).

Again, people talk. What, you gonna go all 'La Cosanostra' on us?


11) A provider/escort or the client/customer/john/trick (whatever) can't come on the board in ANY SECTION discussing anything that happened between the 2 of them personally.

Guilty! And I think she's pretty pissed at me as a result (And I said =GOOD= things). This is hard to enforce. At best, you might be able to limit it to a names-have-been-changed etc. policy, but people aren't completely fucked in the head (Except for names-have-been-changed-etc.) and will suss out who is being talked about (I mean, c'mon, we all know who "Blondie" is in the respective threads).

Truth be told, I like the recent 'war story' thread that the gurls have been posting to. I have been taking notes as to what =NOT= to do on a 'date' and it also gives an insight into what they have to deal with on a daily basis. So long as they don't name names, I'm cool with it (Especially if they don't name =MY= name!).


13) Escorts/Providers MUST USE the personals section to advertise themselves, NOT GEN. DISCUSSION....................

Relative. An example is Jessica (Jessica's Diary). Occasional posts, a handful of images, some discourse with fans. I don't have a problem with that. In fact, I'm challenged to think of a gurl who's abused that privelege.


15) No more “I’m leaving HA because…………………………….” Threads. Who cares?!? If you are going to leave man up & leave.

Yah, the "I'm tired of you fags" diatribes are old and thin, but there are some who just want to do a blanket "I'm off but available" thread. Some leave for personal reasons, others by schedule, still more for stress related stuff (I've taken some days/weeks long down time, but chose not to announce it), and want to let people know they aren't quite dead yet.


16) MY PERSONAL FAVORITE: SPELL CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With the exception of our foreign friends who are doing their best to fit in with their limited English, in this day & age everyone has access to a web browser that has an add-on that not only checks your spelling on the fly BUT CORRECTS IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one should have to sift through your thread/reply and guess what you meant when a spell check would have told them instantly what you meant.

I have a spelling checker,
It came with my PC.
It plainly marks, for my review,
Mistakes I cannot sea.
I've run this poem threw it,
I'm shore your pleased two no.
Its letter perfect, in it's weigh,
My checker tolled me sew.


I know they continue to be members, but I'm just wondering what drove them away and how we can get the to come back

Towel-snapping

Limit same.

Seriously, more than one person has referred to HA as a men's club/locker room. True, it may be, but if we want to have more gurls present and posting we need to collectively stop poking them in the eye.


Another suggestion for a rule: All posts must be in English only.

Or at least accompanied by a Babelfish translation. Sometimes a note via foreign (Not English) language is appropriate, but entire posts/threads of same are downright impolite (Unless the thread itself is in that respective tongue).


offer them free promotion/advertising

The gurls already prettyy much get just that. Their biggest incentive would just be respectful treatment from the general populace of the forum. Those that greet them with variations of "Your tits are lopsided", "Your dick is ugly", or "Is that your real face or do you chase parked cars"?" simply drive them away.

Oy!

LSMFT

(Let's Stop My Finger's Tired)

[BeardedOne]

l33tsp3k

Woo-hoo! :claps

I know what that meeeeeeans! :peanutbutter

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

LMAO Bearded, fucking hilarious

I like to type so stretching it out didn't bother me, besides sometimes you need to stretch things out to make sure some folks understand you completely..............

I just threw some things out there, that's what the idea of the thread is, to throw ideas out and see who agrees/disagrees and you made excellent points on several things I posted, thanks for that..........

[hondarobot]

I wouldn't have any new rules to suggest, but I do have an idea about improving structure.

If I were NYCe or Thanos, I'd make a new catagory called "Hung Angels", where every girl that has that designation would essentially have her own sticky thread. That way fans would know where to go to find out what specific girls are up to, see new pictures, or whatever. Obviously, the girls all have there own sites, but this would be more of a general database directing people where to go to see more.

Basically, encourage personal mini blogs/threads from each Hung Angel.

The HA girls would, I'm sure, continue to post in General Discussion at times, but this would make things more organized. Ecstatic has already posted a pretty concise list of most of the girls who post regularily, so there you go.

I think that having their own, exclusive threads would be incentive for the girls to post more frequently.

Just my :2cent

[TomSelis]

The gurls already prettyy much get just that. Their biggest incentive would just be respectful treatment from the general populace of the forum. Those that greet them with variations of "Your tits are lopsided", "Your dick is ugly", or "Is that your real face or do you chase parked cars"?" simply drive them away.


I'm in total agreement with this one too. It's kind of hard to fight human nature and everybody isn't going to like the same things. Sometimes though, some people get crazy with it. Someone will start a "Big ass" or "Big floppy dick" or whatever they like thread. Someone almost always comes in and says something negative. Always kills the vibe.

On another note, if Gen. Discussion is broken up into sub-forums, it should have a "new threads" feature where you can basically see ALL of the new threads.

[LG]

Another suggestion for a rule: All posts must be in English only. I'm not referring to members whose second language is English (they include myself) who may occasionally make mistakes, but to members who type in French, Italian or German to get their message to one particular other member or to insult someone.
I disagree with this one, LG. First of all, we'd have to have a board-qualified definition of what constitutes English (what about jargon, l33tsp3k or however you write that, Eubonics, etc.?), and what would be so bad about some folks conversing amongst themselves in their own language? Use bablefish for a rough translation if you must know what they're on about. Though maybe a separate forum for farangs would work, lol.

Splitting into multiple subforums is always tempting, but the dilution tends to work against itself as most people tend to hang in the main forum, I think. So some additional diversity would be good--including maybe finally splitting the porn pics out from the general discussion--but I wouldn't want to go too far.
I know what you're saying but I think you didn't get my point. I've seen it in many threads- people communicating in French, Italian or German- and it pisses me off. If you want to get a message through to only one person, use the PM function.

I don't mean not using Ebonics or jargon (although sometimes that too can get annoying if overused), I mean getting a message across in a way that everyone reading a thread will understand. I don't want to click on a thread and get 2 pages of French or Italian along with bad translations made via google or babelfish.

Often the foreign languages are used for flaming or insulting particular members. Therefore, we must disagree- I think posts in the threads should be in English. Those who have difficulties in English can be forgiven for bad English, but posting a load of gobbledygook of (often bad) French intended at hurling abuse at another member annoys the fuck out of me.

As for putting porn pics separately from the main discussion, I'll agree on that.

EDIT:I just realised that I'm the one who first suggested it in any case, so..erm..I'll definitely agree on it. It was a brilliant idea, wasn't it? :lol:

[BeardedOne]

If I were NYCe or Thanos, I'd make a new catagory called "Hung Angels", where every girl that has that designation would essentially have her own sticky thread. *Snip* Details.

Mippleboy ( :wink: ) has a cool idea here. Perhaps a distinct section where each gurl can post thoughts, comments, schedules, etc. specific to her. Though it is somewhat represented in the personals section as it is, it could be more focused/specific in a 'Blogosphere' type of thread.

[Ecstatic]

- Keeping a members directory or list (there was something like this once, I think).

I don't recall seeing that here at HA, but I have seen it elsewhere. Nothing spectacular or privacy-threatening, just a members list with basics like date joined, number of posts, links, etc. Essentially just a library of profile pages.
I think it was upwards of 2+ years ago we had this feature? It's a standard component of the phpBB sw, but for some reason it was disabled. It was a very useful tool for finding any member, when they joined, how many posts they have, etc. That was back in the day when megabody, seanchai, me, and maybe 2 or 3 others had all of 1000+ posts (and iluvshemales had the totally inaccessible record of 3000+, now long since eclipsed). I would love this feature just to add in compiling the list of transwomen who post here!



- Finding ways to get more girls to come here or members like Gia and Danielle to return.

More manners, less towel-snapping. Unfortunately, not something the forum itself (Or the mods) can promote/enforce. :shrug
Co-sign!

(heh, always wanted to say that....)



I suggested months ago a Health-type forum, there seems to be a bunch of people that have questions and seek answers from others on HA.

Excellent idea, though you are likely to see two avenues here. Example "How do I protect myself during anal sex?" (A health issue) and "What's your best advice for a first-timer to anal sex?" (Could be considered both a helath issue and one of social/general discussion, ie: Technique/preference).

Co-sign!

(Twice in one post!)

[BeardedOne]

On another note, if Gen. Discussion is broken up into sub-forums, it should have a "new threads" feature where you can basically see ALL of the new threads.

On HA I will usually just go to the General Discussion section and read whatever has been bumped to the top ten/fifteen/whatever. HA, as with all forums, does have a "View New Posts" button somewhere, that will ping all sections/threads for the most recent activity. If HA gets broken down to a number of sub-sections/threads I'd use that function instead of going directly to a particular area.

[Ecstatic]

I wouldn't have any new rules to suggest, but I do have an idea about improving structure.

If I were NYCe or Thanos, I'd make a new catagory called "Hung Angels", where every girl that has that designation would essentially have her own sticky thread. That way fans would know where to go to find out what specific girls are up to, see new pictures, or whatever. Obviously, the girls all have there own sites, but this would be more of a general database directing people where to go to see more.

Basically, encourage personal mini blogs/threads from each Hung Angel.

The HA girls would, I'm sure, continue to post in General Discussion at times, but this would make things more organized. Ecstatic has already posted a pretty concise list of most of the girls who post regularily, so there you go.

I think that having their own, exclusive threads would be incentive for the girls to post more frequently.

Just my :2cent
Excellent idea, Honda! Why not? You could say that some of this would be in the personals, some in the porn pics forum (assuming one is created), some in profiles, and some in general dissention, er, discussion, but this would be more focused.

[LG]

If I were NYCe or Thanos, I'd make a new catagory called "Hung Angels", where every girl that has that designation would essentially have her own sticky thread. That way fans would know where to go to find out what specific girls are up to, see new pictures, or whatever. Obviously, the girls all have there own sites, but this would be more of a general database directing people where to go to see more.

Basically, encourage personal mini blogs/threads from each Hung Angel.

The HA girls would, I'm sure, continue to post in General Discussion at times, but this would make things more organized. Ecstatic has already posted a pretty concise list of most of the girls who post regularily, so there you go.

I think that having their own, exclusive threads would be incentive for the girls to post more frequently.

Just my :2cent
Excellent idea, Honda! Why not? You could say that some of this would be in the personals, some in the porn pics forum (assuming one is created), some in profiles, and some in general dissention, er, discussion, but this would be more focused.

Good idea...

[BeardedOne]

Co-sign!

(Twice in one post!)

You bahstid! :lol:

[Ecstatic]

I know what you're saying but I think you didn't get my point. I've seen it in many threads- people communicating in French, Italian or German- and it pisses me off. If you want to get a message through to only one person, use the PM function.

I don't mean not using Ebonics or jargon (although sometimes that too can get annoying if overused), I mean getting a message across in a way that everyone reading a thread will understand. I don't want to click on a thread and get 2 pages of French or Italian along with bad translations made via google or babelfish.

Often the foreign languages are used for flaming or insulting particular members. Therefore, we must disagree- I think posts in the threads should be in English. Those who have difficulties in English can be forgiven for bad English, but posting a load of gobbledygook of (often bad) French intended at hurling abuse at another member annoys the fuck out of me.

As for putting porn pics separately from the main discussion, I'll agree on that.
OK, I agree there. Perhaps if the thread is language-centric, that would be one thing, but avoiding insults and flames is desirable. One forum that I participate on has a number of tgirls posting from the Philippines (you know the one), and they carry on conversations between themselves in Tagalog with smatterings of English, and half the fun is trying to figure out what they're saying. That kind of thing I think would be fine. Also, I remember some postings in French to Allanah when she was visiting Quebec (if memory serves, lol), and that too was fun. But your points are well taken.

[hondarobot]

Thanks guys, I really do agree that would be a good idea.

And on a humble note:

HA HA! My idea was the best again! When do I get my title changed to "Mastermind"?

:P

[TomSelis]

On another note, if Gen. Discussion is broken up into sub-forums, it should have a "new threads" feature where you can basically see ALL of the new threads.

On HA I will usually just go to the General Discussion section and read whatever has been bumped to the top ten/fifteen/whatever. HA, as with all forums, does have a "View New Posts" button somewhere, that will ping all sections/threads for the most recent activity. If HA gets broken down to a number of sub-sections/threads I'd use that function instead of going directly to a particular area.

That's what I usually do, but every once in a while someone cross-references something from one of the other forums and I think "Damn, I wish I didn't miss that one."

[Ecstatic]

Co-sign!

(Twice in one post!)

You bahstid! :lol:
You betcha!




mmm, I suspect we're violating the tenor of this thread.... but it does bring up an interesting point, which is the tendency sometimes for people to use the forum as a chat room, and banter back and forth. Should limits be imposed on this activity?

[BeardedOne]

One forum that I participate on has a number of tgirls posting from the Philippines (you know the one), and they carry on conversations between themselves in Tagalog with smatterings of English, and half the fun is trying to figure out what they're saying.

Oh, that one. :wink:

In the end dumbfuck, dumbefucke, el dumbfuck, and dumbenfuckenzie all mean the same. :lol:

[BeardedOne]

mmm, I suspect we're violating the tenor of this thread.... but it does bring up an interesting point, which is the tendency sometimes for people to use the forum as a chat room, and banter back and forth. Should limits be imposed on this activity?

Ultimately, you're going to have some sort of 'chat' activity. It's unavoidable. Just look at the typical party conversation. "Comment", "Yah", "Really", "Comment", etc. Human nature, as ugly as it can be, can't be helped.

Though, banter of a conversational motif can work rather well and breed further discourse. It gets ugly when nine out of ten posts are cut-n-paste quotes of the beginning of the thread followed by empty comments of "LOL", "GTFO", and "You bahstid!". :lol:

[LG]

mmm, I suspect we're violating the tenor of this thread.... but it does bring up an interesting point, which is the tendency sometimes for people to use the forum as a chat room, and banter back and forth. Should limits be imposed on this activity?

Ultimately, you're going to have some sort of 'chat' activity. It's unavoidable. Just look at the typical party conversation. "Comment", "Yah", "Really", "Comment", etc. Human nature, as ugly as it can be, can't be helped.

Though, banter of a conversational motif can work rather well and breed further discourse. It gets ugly when nine out of ten posts are cut-n-paste quotes of the beginning of the thread followed by empty comments of "LOL", "GTFO", and "You bahstid!". :lol:

LOL!

:wink:

[Quinn]

Great thread, Thanos. I can’t overemphasize my support for the position that overmoderation kills a forum. One of the great things about HA, IMO, is that everyone gets treated by other posters in a manner commensurate with their own posting style. In short, you sink or swim entirely by your own merit. From what I’ve seen during my time here, this process has acted like a sort of Darwinistic sieve that “encourages” most of the jerks to move on -- while the more interesting and cooler posters remain (or return).

I think some of the previous suggestions are good. Particular examples include some of the following:

1) A better filter for spammers. To that end, I think the idea that newbs should have a certain number of posts before being allowed to start their own threads has merit.

2) Fight Club!!!!! As one of the forum’s more peaceable members, I doubt that I would ever find a use for such a combative medium, but it remains a great idea nonetheless. Making it a voice chat room is an even better idea.

3) Controlling the size of avatars is a must; it’s getting fucking ridiculous already.

4) No more pissed off goodbye threads. If you’ve been piled on to the point where your feelings are hurt and you want to leave, you almost certainly did something to merit that treatment. Take some responsibility for yourself already. Conversely, I’ve appreciated some of the positive goodbye threads posted here recently.

I don’t think this one has been addressed by anyone yet, so here goes:

I realize there are many gay and bisexual members on this forum, so my perspective certainly doesn’t speak for everyone, but how about no guys posting pics of their junk unless a woman specifically asks them to. Look, I realize many of the women here put themselves out there for us on a regular basis, and I think it would be positively rude not to show some reciprocity. Still, unsolicited pics of guy cock and ass are, to my way of thinking, in poor taste. In short, go to gay.com or White_Male_Canada.com if you want to act like that.

-Quinn

[BeardedOne]

I realize there are many gay and bisexual members on this forum, so my perspective certainly doesn’t speak for everyone, but how about no guys posting pics of their junk unless a woman specifically asks them to.

Personally, I don't mind either way (Unless it's one sorry, ugly-ass dick or butt), but such things do have their place and, say what you will, there aren't many guys on here that are 'gay'. :roll: I only posted my fugly ass on here once (Yes, dear readers, that really =was= MY ass, long, long ago), but it was in the appropriate thread and at the request, more or less, of the OP.

Seriously guys, dick shots are cool, in their place. If you want to show your stuff, do it in the personals.

[TJ347]

4) No more pissed off goodbye threads. If you’ve been piled on to the point where your feelings are hurt and you want to leave, you almost certainly did something to merit that treatment. Take some responsibility for yourself already. Conversely, I’ve appreciated some of the positive goodbye threads posted here recently.

While I am a prolific poster, I would say that being ranked a "Certified Tranny Expert" alongside people who have been here much longer and contributed more to this board simply because I am prolific is an error that should be corrected.

That said, I second Quinn on the above, as that's exactly how I see it, except for that last sentence. I admit I don't bother with "I'm Leaving" threads really, but the ones I've seen in the last few weeks, whether you deem them "positive" or not, have been made by people who've hurled alot of abuse at others, at times warranted and at others, not. So, I have problems seeing these goodbye threads as positive, when the fact is that the people posting them simply don't have the stomach to receive as good as they give. Bottom line, I've dish it out, received it back in kind, and I'm still here, like it or not. If I cry about how so-and-so called me a name, who would give a shit? People have seen my posts and know that I've done my fair share of name-calling too. Turnabout is fair play, IMHO.

I also think that if it's not against the rules to call a fool a fool, and no one wants to make doing so against the rules, then when someone responds in kind to a person who derides their expression of an opinion by calling them a "dickless pussy" and so forth, the person responding in kind should not be beset by other members asking them to control themselves. You may have been here since HA began, but if your boy from way back then is an asshole, don't get on me for calling him one. Tell him to check himself before you say word one to me. There's too much of that shit going on here, and it's fucking ridiculous. And you know what I'm talking about too.

[Quinn]

4) No more pissed off goodbye threads. If you’ve been piled on to the point where your feelings are hurt and you want to leave, you almost certainly did something to merit that treatment. Take some responsibility for yourself already. Conversely, I’ve appreciated some of the positive goodbye threads posted here recently.

While I am a prolific poster, I would say that being ranked a "Certified Tranny Expert" alongside people who have been here much longer and contributed more to this board simply because I am prolific is an error that should be corrected.

That said, I second Quinn on the above, as that's exactly how I see it, except for that last sentence. I admit I don't bother with "I'm Leaving" threads really, but the ones I've seen in the last few weeks, whether you deem them "positive" or not, have been made by people who've hurled alot of abuse at others, at times warranted and at others, not. So, I have problems seeing these goodbye threads as positive, when the fact is that the people posting them simply don't have the stomach to receive as good as they give. Bottom line, I've dish it out, received it back in kind, and I'm still here, like it or not. If I cry about how so-and-so called me a name, who would give a shit? People have seen my posts and know that I've done my fair share of name-calling too. Turnabout is fair play, IMHO.


TJ, I'm familiar with the thread(s) you are referring to and agree with your assessment. The threads I was referring to – I probably should have been more specific – were posted by Scorpion and another poster whose ID I can't recall off of the top of my head right now. In those two cases, there was nothing but positivity, which was, in turn, responded to with overwhelming positivity. Scorpion, in particular, exited with what I would consider class.

-Quinn

[hondarobot]

I just checked in and saw Jenn/tsntx logged in. Quit hiding out in the pool, babe. You know no-one ever really leaves Hotel HA.

:wink:

Oh, and . . . THREADJACK!

[LG]

TJ347: I'd say it depends on the names you're being called and the circumstances. Some insults are pretty harmless, some others are not. The girls have often suffered from pretty heavy abuse that was uncalled for. In another case, one girl (who was banned repeatedly) actually dished it out first but couldn't take it.

Personally, I've only resorted to name calling when insulted by a poster or (rarely) in defense of another long-serving poster or of a poster I consider a friend (there are very few such members and most of them I have communicated with by PM as well) against a member (often a rookie) looking to cause trouble. In short, I don't care if someone disagrees with me on the issues, but I won't take someone who just hurls abuse for the sake of it. Then I can and will get medieval on his ass, and some people have felt the sting. I will not complain, but I'm not afraid to belittle him with every witty barb I can think of and with a few not-so-witty ones.

In the politics forum, it's a little different. Abuse is almost the name of the game, but I prefer to keep it light. I appreciate people who have a sense of humour and are able to make a witty- albeit often snide- remark. I do not appreciate people who just post silly jpegs that insult other posters (in one case in a way I deemed to be very much below the belt) and call people losers or (in the Politics forum) Stalinists or libtards without even making an argument. I have caught myself arguing with such people, but at the end I put them on ignore for a week or so until things calm down.

I don't like starting fights, really. I'm pretty much a pacifist as well as a liberal, and I think we waste too much time arguing when we could actually be debating and finding areas we all agree on.

This is part of who I am, so if people don't like it, it's not my problem. I've been here a while and think I've earned the respect of many members. I also count a few members as friends, in a strange way because I'm most likely never to meet them and the relationship I have with them is very much a 'don't ask- don't tell' kind of thing.

I like it here. Sure, there's room for improvement in my opinion, but things are cool and I have a good time every time I log on (I laugh, I cry, sometimes I hurl :lol: ). Most people here are pretty cool and we're all united by something.

[TJ347]

I just wanted to add that the spam blocker ideas are excellent, and I'm sure everyone would welcome them being implemented.

Quinn you were absolutely right about Scorpion's goodbye thread.

LG, I've seen you come to the defense of people who deserve to have people come to their aid, so I've got no problem there. It's the times they don't deserve it I'm talking about.

When, say, I express an opinion, and the response from another poster is "You're a cretin and a dickless pussy". Don't go telling me to control myself, or to stop ruining your thread. Talk to your boy, who has a problem communicating rationally whenever people express a difference of opinion, because had he not responded like an asshole to a simple expression of an opinion, then I wouldn't have responded to his response in the manner I did.

I'm not talking about what names were called or how hurtful they are, I'm talking about people who will jump on someone who's calling your "friend" out, ignoring the fact that your asshole friend started the whole damned thing. And again, I know that you know exactly what I'm talking about.

[Ecstatic]

Great thread, Thanos. I can’t overemphasize my support for the position that overmoderation kills a forum. One of the great things about HA, IMO, is that everyone gets treated by other posters in a manner commensurate with their own posting style. In short, you sink or swim entirely by your own merit. From what I’ve seen during my time here, this process has acted like a sort of Darwinistic sieve that “encourages” most of the jerks to move on -- while the more interesting and cooler posters remain (or return).

Quinn, I agree with each of your points. My only qualifier would be that some greater discretion be taken with the Darwinian filtering of posters who happen to be transwomen who come under the gun here. Sometimes it's deserved, and sometimes not (or as usual, somewhere inbetween these poles), but it does seem to get out-of-hand at times and that I could do without. Firstly, I think many transwomen have left HA permanently because they feel excessively put upon here, and secondly even some who have toughed it out have suffered as a result. Hell, I think even Teflon Kelly (which I say with affection, and she knows it) would've posted at least 1000 fewer posts had she not be battling back against the backlash. (Again, I'm not making an assessment of right or wrong or justification, just a preference that, after a point is made--ad nauseum--it's time to K.I.M. and let it go.)

[Quinn]

Ecstatic,

I understand and respect your opinion on this matter. We’ve both been here for a long time and have seen many TS women come and go. During that time, there have certainly been occasions when TS women have taken abuse that was unwarranted (an incident with Felicia K comes to mind). Then again, the same can be said for any long-time or frequent poster on HA (male or female). Still, IMO, this represents far more of an exception than a rule.

I guess it all comes down to what type of standard we want to apply to interactions involving TS women. To my way of thinking – which could certainly be flawed – they shouldn’t be treated differently than any other poster (male or GG). I believe that in all but the most extreme circumstances, the girls should be allowed to govern their own interactions without moderation. Why? Think about it. Some TS posters rarely have problems, while others are the continuous “victims” of one poster or another. Why the disparity in their respective experiences?

-Quinn

[Ecstatic]

Well said, Quinn. I don't advocate separate rules for the women here, but merely encourage the membership at large to foster a higher level of respect for them--and for all (unless truly undeserved, which of course happens).

[chefmike]

...by calling them a "dickless pussy" and so forth...

Surely that's not the first time that you've been called that tinkerbell. If so, feel free to take a moment to to dry your eyes, francis. Do you need a tissue(or perhaps a tampon), tough guy?

As for myself, I would like to go on record as saying that I think that 'dickless, passive-aggressive internet crybaby' is far more appropriate in your case, chump... :P

[hondarobot]

It's the "Junkyard Dog" again. This ties nicely into the Hate thread that's going on.

Why do you think that people will accept you as a "forum tough guy", and why is that so important to you? You obviously spend a great deal of time here, and I think you might have some insight on this topic.

[TJ347]

I guess it all comes down to what type of standard we want to apply to interactions involving TS women. To my way of thinking – which could certainly be flawed – they shouldn’t be treated differently than any other poster (male or GG). I believe that in all but the most extreme circumstances, the girls should be allowed to govern their own interactions without moderation. Why? Think about it. Some TS posters rarely have problems, while others are the continuous “victims” of one poster or another. Why the disparity in their respective experiences?


Exactly! They shouldn't be treated any differently, but they clearly are. Not that it's making too much difference apparently, as it seems a girl left practically every other day this past week...

And "howdy", Chefmike! Glad to see you're still posting your propaganda in the P&R section regularly, though your counters to those who express opposing views continue to disappoint. When people express a coherent thought, and you, a grown man, respond with your usual name-calling, it makes me wonder about the character of anyone who considers you a friend, either on this forum, or in reality. But only for a moment, since I can't be bothered to give two shits about you, what you think or have to say about anything, what political party you do or don't care for, nothing... And this, solely because you can't compose yourself for five minutes to present a rational argument supporting your views without resorting to language I haven't heard regulary since I was in the sixth grade. Kudos to you on your consistency though!

:jerkoff

[Quinn]

Well said, Quinn. I don't advocate separate rules for the women here, but merely encourage the membership at large to foster a higher level of respect for them--and for all (unless truly undeserved, which of course happens).

A great final point against which there can be no reasonable argument.

-Quinn

[chefmike]

My two favorite bitches...

[hondarobot]

This "bitch" thing is also interesting. Where did this start? I'm assuming you grew up as a single child, probably on a farm. It seems the most likely explanation. There would be dogs on a farm, a person would assume.

Please continue.

[Quinn]

. . . it makes me wonder about the character of anyone who considers you a friend, either on this forum, or in reality.

Though I don't have any problem with you, TJ, I would like to point out that Chef has many friends on this forum – as much as you can be friends with people you've never met other than online – myself included. Something like that doesn't happen by random chance.

-Quinn

[hondarobot]

. . . it makes me wonder about the character of anyone who considers you a friend, either on this forum, or in reality.

Though I don't have any problem with you, TJ, I would like to point out that Chef has many friends on this forum – as much as you can be friends with people you've never met other than online – myself included. Something like that doesn't happen by random chance.

-Quinn

Quinn, you're a good guy. I don't like Chef, personally. Dog eat dog, eh?

[Quinn]

Quinn, you're a good guy. I don't like Chef, personally. Dog eat dog, eh?

You're a good egg in my book as well, Honda. As to your professed dislike of Chef, when did this take place? I wasn't aware there were any problems between the two of you. LOL....... It's all part of the HA magic I guess.

-Quinn

P.S. My apologies for the hijack, Thanos.

[TJ347]

. . . it makes me wonder about the character of anyone who considers you a friend, either on this forum, or in reality.

Though I don't have any problem with you, TJ, I would like to point out that Chef has many friends on this forum – as much as you can be friends with people you've never met other than online – myself included. Something like that doesn't happen by random chance.

-Quinn

I don't have any problem with you, Quinn, but your friend has consistently shown it to be beyond his abilities to communicate like an adult any time I've seen someone express an opposing viewpoint. I realized this limitation, and yet asked him a question, and the same bullshit he's spewing now is the bullshit he spewed then in response... he never did answer my question.

Ever wonder why every post he makes that isn't to support his political ideology is to belittle someone else for having the audacity not to ally themselves with him? And the sad thing is, I've read some of what he's had to say on politics and agree with much of it... However, I can't be bothered to get into a conversation with a man who can use words like "supercilious" with ease, yet can't fashion a rational counter-argument and present it without resorting to childish name-calling, as I've said.

I'm sure your friendship didn't happen by some accident, and I know of several people who hold Chefmike in some regard. In several cases, to be honest, this appears to be due to a similarity in political views only, but certainly that isn't the reason in each case, and it isn't really relevant to what I'm trying to say anyway. And what that is is, I could have just said that I chose my words poorly and slinked off, but I didn't say that, as it would have been a cop out. I said what I meant, and I said it because I find it unbelievable that those people who consider Chefmike to be a friend would sit back and ignore, if not outright co-sign his assinine responses to well-meaning people who express a differing opinion.

Not two days ago, LG and I had a discussion which concluded by me expressing gratitude that we could both express ourselves without the whole thing descending into idiocy. He expressed that he was grateful for that as well. And so, if he can recognize and appreciate that we, as adults, were able to behave as adults and dialogue, surely he can see that this isn't possible where his friend Chefmike is involved, and surely you can too. And that's all there is to it really.

[hondarobot]

Quinn, you're a good guy. I don't like Chef, personally. Dog eat dog, eh?

You're a good egg in my book as well, Honda. As to your professed dislike of Chef, when did this take place? I wasn't aware there were any problems between the two of you. LOL....... It's all part of the HA magic I guess.

-Quinn

P.S. My apologies for the hijack, Thanos.

He started it, and now I'm going to break him up (I don't think anyone will delete my threads this time). He's an asshole in my opinion.

No offense, Quinn.

[chefmike]

LMFAO...you're gonna "break me up", jizzmopper?

I love it when you start up with that shit...please do continue, you pathetic schmuck. You've admitted on this forum to being too afraid to drive, fly, or even swim. You had to take a greyhound bus across the country to stalk VR. You have humiliated yourself, and in turn been humiliated by countless others on this forum, repeatedly...many times by the very same TS that you continue to be obsessed with...yet you still continue to come back for more...you couldn't "break up" a fucking matchstick...metaphorically or otherwise, tardbot...




blah blah, yeah we made a pact to bully around poor innocent shmucks like u.... and of course ill continue reading, why not? i read when im bored or need passion...

its simple, this site consists of the following:

the mods; from what i know all relatively well adjusted dealing with reality

the non member peekers; probably married, sexually confused, most likely republicans

the older, been there done that crowd; contribute interesting stuff every so often, write pretty well, respect the witty and insightful ones here, sometimes play peacemaker and tryin to squeeze as much as possible from memories, discourse and who knows what other surprises life offers

the filthy cumcatchers: the ones who beg for cock, who have no shame in describing their method of masterbation without request, who skip through any meaningful conversation and are here just to feel like they arent as pathetic as their inner self says cause wombat discussed his anal warts, posted pics of it and is even more low than they are

the witty bunch: not always a hit with their posts, but u can count on a few general quips and humrous observations in an above average rate

the trouble makers: playin the conservative card, playing the top vs bottom card, playin the racist card, playin the jesus is lord and came from outerspace card, etc.

the girls: some stars, some in their mind, some out of their mind, all valuable here, and thankfully many with good insight, despite agendas, into fields other than the ts community

the clueless ones: the know they like it, they dont know why, theyre way too concerned with figuring out why, probably from the south, probably love the lord, and probably not too successful in life

[/size]YOU: the guy who everyone is glad is around, because someone has to be the biggest loser, and its a good thing to spot the obvious winner right away and remove self doubt...the guy who youde think twice before shaking his bare hand...the guy who ur not shocked with anything he says or does since u put as little value on his life as he does...the one youde never let a family member or friend take a ride with...and the guy who knows all this but is putting up a pretend fight because dealing with reality would probably involve lots of drugs, alcohol and a noose...we all know its only time before ur 3 for 3




The above is one of my favorite rants from J, which was directed at the rodent who refers to himself as hondarobot....

[Quinn]

He started it, and now I'm going to break him up (I don't think anyone will delete my threads this time). He's an asshole in my opinion.

No offense, Quinn.

No offense taken, Honda. As to who started it, I don't care; it's between you two. By the way, though I did a piss poor job of communicating it, I was being sarcastic when I said I didn't know you guys were going at each other. At this point, I don't think there's a long-time poster here who doesn't know.


And what that is is, I could have just said that I chose my words poorly and slinked off, but I didn't say that, as it would have been a cop out. I said what I meant, and I said it because I find it unbelievable that those people who consider Chefmike to be a friend would sit back and ignore, if not outright co-sign his assinine responses to well-meaning people who express a differing opinion.

TJ, I can't speak to the origin of your differences with Chef as I'm not familiar with their inception. Let me say this though: your attempts to involve others in your dispute is a mistake because your analysis of the ongoing dynamic involved is incorrect. Keep in mind, I don't mean that as a criticism, but as a casual observation.

I've said all I care to say on this matter. At this point, the rest is between you guys and Chef.

-Quinn

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

ummmmm guys..........................

http://www.websavey.com/images/users/photos/Neo_Slacker/back_on_topic.jpg

[hondarobot]

LMFAO...you're gonna "break me up", jizzmopper?

I love it when you start up with that shit...please do continue, you pathetic schmuck. You've admitted on this forum to being too afraid to drive, fly, or even swim. You had to take a greyhound bus across the country to stalk VR. You have humiliated yourself, and in turn been humiliated by countless others on this forum, repeatedly...many times by the very same TS that you continue to be obsessed with...yet you still continue to come back for more...you couldn't "break up" a fucking matchstick...metaphorically or otherwise, tardbot...




blah blah, yeah we made a pact to bully around poor innocent shmucks like u.... and of course ill continue reading, why not? i read when im bored or need passion...

its simple, this site consists of the following:

the mods; from what i know all relatively well adjusted dealing with reality

the non member peekers; probably married, sexually confused, most likely republicans

the older, been there done that crowd; contribute interesting stuff every so often, write pretty well, respect the witty and insightful ones here, sometimes play peacemaker and tryin to squeeze as much as possible from memories, discourse and who knows what other surprises life offers

the filthy cumcatchers: the ones who beg for cock, who have no shame in describing their method of masterbation without request, who skip through any meaningful conversation and are here just to feel like they arent as pathetic as their inner self says cause wombat discussed his anal warts, posted pics of it and is even more low than they are

the witty bunch: not always a hit with their posts, but u can count on a few general quips and humrous observations in an above average rate

the trouble makers: playin the conservative card, playing the top vs bottom card, playin the racist card, playin the jesus is lord and came from outerspace card, etc.

the girls: some stars, some in their mind, some out of their mind, all valuable here, and thankfully many with good insight, despite agendas, into fields other than the ts community

the clueless ones: the know they like it, they dont know why, theyre way too concerned with figuring out why, probably from the south, probably love the lord, and probably not too successful in life

[/size]YOU: the guy who everyone is glad is around, because someone has to be the biggest loser, and its a good thing to spot the obvious winner right away and remove self doubt...the guy who youde think twice before shaking his bare hand...the guy who ur not shocked with anything he says or does since u put as little value on his life as he does...the one youde never let a family member or friend take a ride with...and the guy who knows all this but is putting up a pretend fight because dealing with reality would probably involve lots of drugs, alcohol and a noose...we all know its only time before ur 3 for 3




The above is one of my favorite rants from J, which was directed at the rodent who refers to himself as hondarobot....

Actually I just posted in regards to you on the humiliating P&R forum. You should go read that. And please quit posting "J" posts. A crazy person quoting someone who went crazy is just nuts.

But by all means, please continue.

[TomSelis]

Actually I just posted in regards to you on the humiliating P&R forum. You should go read that. And please quit posting "J" posts. A crazy person quoting someone who went crazy is just nuts.

But by all means, please continue.

Oh brother, you shouldn't have gone there.

I'm going to take a step in the right direction and ask that these non-topical post be removed from this thread as they are part of the problem.


and taken to FIGHT CLUB!!!!!

[hondarobot]

Actually I just posted in regards to you on the humiliating P&R forum. You should go read that. And please quit posting "J" posts. A crazy person quoting someone who went crazy is just nuts.

But by all means, please continue.

Oh brother, you shouldn't have gone there.

I'm going to take a step in the right direction and ask that these non-topical post be removed from this thread as they are part of the problem.


and taken to FIGHT CLUB!!!!!

You do that Tom, thanks for getting involved.

:lol:

[chefmike]

. . . it makes me wonder about the character of anyone who considers you a friend, either on this forum, or in reality.

Though I don't have any problem with you, TJ, I would like to point out that Chef has many friends on this forum – as much as you can be friends with people you've never met other than online – myself included. Something like that doesn't happen by random chance.

-Quinn

Thanks, bro. I could've PM'd you this, what with you being one of the few people on this forum that I've ever PM'd with...but I wanted to let our forum newbs in on the fact that you are a stand-up guy, Quinn. I'm not sweating the latest BS from such as these two. You were very diplomatic and articulate in your post, as always. I've weathered scurrilous allegations by the likes of moroni, 'tardbot, and other insects before, all of which were refuted by the mods here, despite the aggravation that I may have caused them(the mods) from time to time...so let the pussies continue to meow, Quinn. Because it's all good, my brother.... 8)

[hondarobot]

. . . it makes me wonder about the character of anyone who considers you a friend, either on this forum, or in reality.

Though I don't have any problem with you, TJ, I would like to point out that Chef has many friends on this forum – as much as you can be friends with people you've never met other than online – myself included. Something like that doesn't happen by random chance.

-Quinn

Thanks, bro. I could've PM'd you this, what with you being one of the few people on this forum that I've ever PM'd with...but I wanted to let our forum newbs in on the fact that you are a stand-up guy, Quinn. I'm not sweating the latest BS from such as these two. You were very diplomatic and articulate in your post, as always. I've weathered scurrilous allegations by the likes of moroni, 'tardbot, and other insects before, all of which were refuted by the mods here, despite the aggravation that I may have caused them(the mods) from time to time...so let the pussies continue to meow, Quinn. Because it's all good, my brother.... 8)

Heh. That last post read like Col. Klink calling into HQ.

:lol:

[NYCe]

Thanos owes me $$$$. I told him this thread would descend into a mess before it was even created.

[hondarobot]

Heh. That it did. I still think I had a good idea put out there.

Gotta go bandage my knuckles now. . .

[TJ347]

All I'm trying to say is, the guy stays in shit with somebody or other continuously, and the fact is, it's always his fault when you trace it back to its origin. I don't want anyone else to get involved, and if that's how you read it, I apologize for not being clearer.

That said, can we move on? I second the suggestion of whomever to delete all this, and apologize to the OP.

[TomSelis]

Well, it lasted a good twelve hours before it went to shit, so it had a good run.

[TJ347]

Needed to be said, though admittedly not here. Is it possible to move on from this point... or no?

[tonkatoy]

I propose some rule that results in me getting laid. And enjoying it.

[Ecstatic]

Well, it lasted a good twelve hours before it went to shit, so it had a good run.
Is that a new HA record? :lol:

[TomSelis]

Is that a new HA record? :lol:

On a serious topic? It may well be, Eggs. :lol:

[LG]

Is that a new HA record? :lol:

On a serious topic? It may well be, Eggs. :lol:

Damn, I missed all the action. On second thoughts, thank God for that!

Now what about the Fight Club?

[Felicia Katt]

I won't participate in the Politics and Religion forum anymore. There used to be some really good, vital discussions on the general board where all kinds of differing viewpoints were expressed, and there was genuine give and take. Minds, if not changed, were at least challenged. It won't happen in isolation. If you see a post of mine in the P &R, its one I made in General Discussion before it was shuttled off to Hung Angels Siberia. There is no way have reasoned discourse there when a very vocal few will post all manner of crap because they are immunized to the few more reasonable posters who are there to call them on it, In that bubble, they are completely unreceptive to any other point of view except the one they were spoon fed by Fox news. There is a moderating function built into public discussion, where everyone can see and anyone can post and where the germ of a new idea can infect and affect the thread and all the users.

FK

[chefmike]

Actually I just posted in regards to you on the humiliating P&R forum. You should go read that. And please quit posting "J" posts. A crazy person quoting someone who went crazy is just nuts.

But by all means, please continue.

Not a problem, tardbot!

I will most certainly continue, you sniveling little greyhound-riding glory-hole jizzmopper!

Like I need permission to continue from a mincing little creep like you...

Did I make myself clear enough, fool?

Back on the bus, bozo!

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=20754&start=20

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/lou_cypher/Fight_ClubHA.jpg

[TJT]

Can I oil wrestle Felicia and Hara?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

LOL, Hara's hands and oil will be used elsewhere

[tsntx]

Thank you for giving us all this chance Thanos to come up with suggestions.

I think the mods are doing a great job and, personally, I love this place, which is why I keep coming back for more. But I have some suggestions:

- Creating three areas for the posts that would normally go into the Discussion forum. A separate area for polls, another for porn pics and another for transgender-related news items
- Creating new rankings and renaming 'Certified Tranny Expert' to 'Certified Transsexual Expert'
- Requiring that, in order to become a CTE, 50% or more of posts must be in the General Forum (or in one of the categories that this may be split up into, if my first suggestion is taken on board).
- Stopping spammers by requiring new members to type in a piece of text shown on the webpage, or by some other way.
- Finding a way to stop people from re-registering more than once or twice when banned, by banning an IP address. A single ban may be forgivable, but if you are banned again and again you should be banned for life.
- Keeping a members directory or list (there was something like this once, I think).
- Finding ways to get more girls to come here or members like Gia and Danielle to return.
- A little more moderation in the Politics forum so that flame wars don't keep flaring up.

Those are some ideas I feel could improve the forums. I'll try to think of some more. :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

LOL, Hara's hands and oil will be used elsewhere

LOL You Got it JWBL! LOL ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[tsntx]

I'd make a new catagory called "Hung Angels", where every girl that has that designation would essentially have her own sticky thread. That way fans would know where to go to find out what specific girls are up to, see new pictures, or whatever. Obviously, the girls all have there own sites, but this would be more of a general database directing people where to go to see more.

Basically, encourage personal mini blogs/threads from each Hung Angel.

The HA girls would, I'm sure, continue to post in General Discussion at times, but this would make things more organized. Ecstatic has already posted a pretty concise list of most of the girls who post regularily, so there you go.

I think that having their own, exclusive threads would be incentive for the girls to post more frequently.

Just my :2cent

i like that idea alot personally... get rid of all those annoying "where can i get more of this cock" threads ... also ... those type of threads should get deleted as soon as theyre posted... not all girls want to be asc. w/ their past and dont appreciate having to have it brought back up when they have made significantly different choices since then... also im sure that the girls who are still asc. w/ the porn industry would rather guys sign up their websites vs. having their websites contents plastered on here for free.

[tsntx]

4) No more pissed off goodbye threads. If you’ve been piled on to the point where your feelings are hurt and you want to leave, you almost certainly did something to merit that treatment. Take some responsibility for yourself already. Conversely, I’ve appreciated some of the positive goodbye threads posted here recently.

That said, I second Quinn on the above, as that's exactly how I see it, except for that last sentence. I admit I don't bother with "I'm Leaving" threads really, but the ones I've seen in the last few weeks, whether you deem them "positive" or not, have been made by people who've hurled alot of abuse at others, at times warranted and at others, not. So, I have problems seeing these goodbye threads as positive, when the fact is that the people posting them simply don't have the stomach to receive as good as they give. Bottom line, I've dish it out, received it back in kind, and I'm still here, like it or not. If I cry about how so-and-so called me a name, who would give a shit? People have seen my posts and know that I've done my fair share of name-calling too. Turnabout is fair play, IMHO.

I also think that if it's not against the rules to call a fool a fool, and no one wants to make doing so against the rules, then when someone responds in kind to a person who derides their expression of an opinion by calling them a "dickless pussy" and so forth, the person responding in kind should not be beset by other members asking them to control themselves. You may have been here since HA began, but if your boy from way back then is an asshole, don't get on me for calling him one. Tell him to check himself before you say word one to me. There's too much of that shit going on here, and it's fucking ridiculous. And you know what I'm talking about too.

you guys bitch like little girls... its obvious who youre referring to... as i mentioned MORE THEN ONCE ... i didnt say i was leaving bc of how I, ME, was being treated... i was leaving bc this place has no rules and allows ppl who DONT get involved in the fighting to be attacked... AND THATS NOT RIGHT... so stop youre bitching about ME ... read what i wrote... and stop trying to say i couldnt handle the mud-slinging... i handled it for a long time w/ no real problems... but i couldnt handle the slinging at ppl that didnt deserve it ... so enough of this type of rant... ppl will leave... and when they go... all YALL bitch about is "what happened to gia, what happened to vanity, whered danielle go?" blah blah blah... well if THEY had made a thread saying WHY they left ... u fuckers wouldnt be crying and trying to find out why they left.

[tsntx]

I just checked in and saw Jenn/tsntx logged in. Quit hiding out in the pool, babe. You know no-one ever really leaves Hotel HA.

:wink:

Oh, and . . . THREADJACK!

i didnt say i was LEAVING.. i said i wasnt going to post after 2000 if there werent going to be rules made... hence y im posting now... but if the final version of the rules arent to my liking i will continue to lurk and continue NOT to post beyond this thread.

[Vicki Richter]

I just checked in and saw Jenn/tsntx logged in. Quit hiding out in the pool, babe. You know no-one ever really leaves Hotel HA.

:wink:

Oh, and . . . THREADJACK!

i didnt say i was LEAVING.. i said i wasnt going to post after 2000 if there werent going to be rules made... hence y im posting now... but if the final version of the rules arent to my liking i will continue to lurk and continue NOT to post beyond this thread.

Jen - you win a prize for most photos taken in her car. Do you have a camera up there on the visor that clicks new photos every 5 minutes?

:P

[Vicki Richter]

I can't think of any new rules I want at the moment. Let me get in an argument with someone that isn't going my way and I will come back to that.

[tsntx]

I just checked in and saw Jenn/tsntx logged in. Quit hiding out in the pool, babe. You know no-one ever really leaves Hotel HA.

:wink:

Oh, and . . . THREADJACK!

i didnt say i was LEAVING.. i said i wasnt going to post after 2000 if there werent going to be rules made... hence y im posting now... but if the final version of the rules arent to my liking i will continue to lurk and continue NOT to post beyond this thread.

Jen - you win a prize for most photos taken in her car. Do you have a camera up there on the visor that clicks new photos every 5 minutes?

:P

yeah LOGO put one in awhile back... lololol

[xfiver]

All I'm trying to say is, the guy stays in shit with somebody or other continuously, and the fact is, it's always his fault when you trace it back to its origin. I don't want anyone else to get involved, and if that's how you read it, I apologize for not being clearer.

That said, can we move on? I second the suggestion of whomever to delete all this, and apologize to the OP.

Do you think anyone really gives a fuck what you have to say? You have been running off at the mouth non stop for all of the couple months you've been here.

You have achieved the coveted "tranny expert" status. Now shut the fuck up.

[LG]

I just checked in and saw Jenn/tsntx logged in. Quit hiding out in the pool, babe. You know no-one ever really leaves Hotel HA.

:wink:

Oh, and . . . THREADJACK!

i didnt say i was LEAVING.. i said i wasnt going to post after 2000 if there werent going to be rules made... hence y im posting now... but if the final version of the rules arent to my liking i will continue to lurk and continue NOT to post beyond this thread.

Well, personally I'm glad you're back and hope you stick around a while.

I think some of the rules/ideas suggested are badly needed, while others could help the forums run a little more smoothly. I think it was great of Thanos to create this thread. Now we're just waiting for him and the other mods and administrators to see how they can take our ideas on board.

The HA forums can be a pretty cool place to be when things are going well. There are some really interesting people here and the banter can be funny as well. What's more, over the last two years I've learned a great deal of things. Long may it all continue.

[Ecstatic]

i like that idea alot personally... get rid of all those annoying "where can i get more of this cock" threads ... also ... those type of threads should get deleted as soon as theyre posted... not all girls want to be asc. w/ their past and dont appreciate having to have it brought back up when they have made significantly different choices since then... also im sure that the girls who are still asc. w/ the porn industry would rather guys sign up their websites vs. having their websites contents plastered on here for free.
Exactly why I instantly voiced my endorsement of Honda's suggestion. Face it, HA gets the traffic it does in large measure thanks to the "more of this cock" threads--but is there any reason those can't be in their own forum, perhaps in two (a XXX forum for pic posting and a Hung Angels forum for the girls themselves)?

Anyway, good to hear from you again, Jen. I hope things continue to improve here and you continue to voice your opinion.

[LG]

Exactly why I instantly voiced my endorsement of Honda's suggestion. Face it, HA gets the traffic it does in large measure thanks to the "more of this cock" threads--but is there any reason those can't be in their own forum, perhaps in two (a XXX forum for pic posting and a Hung Angels forum for the girls themselves)?

I agree that the cock pics should be in an area of their own. After all, that was one of my initial ideas. Having a separate area of blogs for the girls would also be great but I'm not sure how it would work in the forum format. do you let each girl have her own thread, or just use the traditional blog format and simply have a page of links leading to each blog?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I think referring to any girl, who's been given the title "Hot Hung Angel", as "he", "him", "dude", "bro", or "sir" should be grounds to have someone's faggoty ass banned... including mods. ;)

LMAO I think whoever labeled you a hot hung angel needs to be put in alcoholics anonymous because they were obviously drunk at the time, or received a hefty payment for that title via paypal, or both.................. dude

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

LMAO, I see the Moni influence has made you dive deep into lies, typical. For the record calling you a man, saying you're ugly, and down-playing your "I have no shame' youtube video is nowhere as pathetic as you attempting to say I have any type of STD. As of this point the gloves have come off......................

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

LMAO, I see the Moni influence has made you dive deep into lies, typical. For the record calling you a man, saying you're ugly, and down-playing your "I have no shame' youtube video is nowhere as pathetic as you attempting to say I have any type of STD. As of this point the gloves have come off......................Oh please. You've never worn a glove in your life, Charles Barkley on heroin. Don't tell me you're so dumb you can't tell when someone's making a joke. If you're thayt retarded, they shouuld really not let you mod here anymore. And I have friends that have died of HIV and AIDS, and I still think it was funny. So don't get all sanctimoniopus on us, like a big wuss. Don't let your fragile ego get the best of you, ok? You statrted this shit w/ me, and not the other way around. So now you get your hard-to-locate little balls busted. Boo fuckinh hoo, Chuck Berry with a skin bleaching.

And Moni cracked a good joke. So what? I never said she didn't have decent sense of humor. I just think she's a ghetto skank-ho. So what?

Moni aka Porky Pig is not a member of HA, you are. Joking about any form of STD is not funny as far as I'm concerned, and so what if you have lost someone to HIV, you're not the only person on this board who has. I find it totally tasteless to kid around with anything like that on any forum, it's literally wishing death on someone as far as I'm concerned, that shit was beyond pathetic...........

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

actually I have a BIG PROBLEM with this, because if a male member of HA came on and said "[insert name here] has HIV/AIDS" various members of this board would immediately drop what they are doing to sign on and reply defending said individual................ maybe it's just me but there shouldn't be a double standard here

#1 you're weakly attempting to use a fabrication compiled by a known habitual liar that was banned from this website

#2 had ANYONE said what you just inferred jokingly to me about you, you'd be screaming from the highest mountain that the individual be banned

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

like you said earlier this year though, see you soon, just remember I said "gloves are off"

[werwt22]

I won't participate in the Politics and Religion forum anymore. There used to be some really good, vital discussions on the general board where all kinds of differing viewpoints were expressed, and there was genuine give and take. Minds, if not changed, were at least challenged. It won't happen in isolation. If you see a post of mine in the P &R, its one I made in General Discussion before it was shuttled off to Hung Angels Siberia. There is no way have reasoned discourse there when a very vocal few will post all manner of crap because they are immunized to the few more reasonable posters who are there to call them on it, In that bubble, they are completely unreceptive to any other point of view except the one they were spoon fed by Fox news. There is a moderating function built into public discussion, where everyone can see and anyone can post and where the germ of a new idea can infect and affect the thread and all the users.

FK

Hmmm I noticed the same also. I've posted in a few P&R before they were all moved in mass and the only reason I participated is b/c they started in general chat. As far as a solution for it I dont really have a great one. I just feel maybe these posts shouldn't be moved so hastily to allow time for a few people to notice them. Some of them are just hot topics that should stay in general chat for a bit.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I won't participate in the Politics and Religion forum anymore. There used to be some really good, vital discussions on the general board where all kinds of differing viewpoints were expressed, and there was genuine give and take. Minds, if not changed, were at least challenged. It won't happen in isolation. If you see a post of mine in the P &R, its one I made in General Discussion before it was shuttled off to Hung Angels Siberia. There is no way have reasoned discourse there when a very vocal few will post all manner of crap because they are immunized to the few more reasonable posters who are there to call them on it, In that bubble, they are completely unreceptive to any other point of view except the one they were spoon fed by Fox news. There is a moderating function built into public discussion, where everyone can see and anyone can post and where the germ of a new idea can infect and affect the thread and all the users.

FK

Hmmm I noticed the same also. I've posted in a few P&R before they were all moved in mass and the only reason I participated is b/c they started in general chat. As far as a solution for it I dont really have a great one. I just feel maybe these posts shouldn't be moved so hastily to allow time for a few people to notice them. Some of them are just hot topics that should stay in general chat for a bit.

for the most part when threads are moved there's a 'Moved' announcement in front of it that you can still click on and go right into the thread. I haven't always used it and I apologize for that but I will always do it from here on in. you have to understand though, threads need to be moved because people pleaded for their own forum, now that they have it threads pertaining to issues they would discuss need to go there............

[werwt22]

Someone said it earlier but theres so many useless threads started here that need to be moved to the crap section. Those aren't really topics that can be discussed, or that even have potential, but just random chat.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lol, isn't that what Gen Disc. is for? I mean if you look on any other board the Gen Disc. section is where random shit gets posted...............

[werwt22]

I won't participate in the Politics and Religion forum anymore. There used to be some really good, vital discussions on the general board where all kinds of differing viewpoints were expressed, and there was genuine give and take. Minds, if not changed, were at least challenged. It won't happen in isolation. If you see a post of mine in the P &R, its one I made in General Discussion before it was shuttled off to Hung Angels Siberia. There is no way have reasoned discourse there when a very vocal few will post all manner of crap because they are immunized to the few more reasonable posters who are there to call them on it, In that bubble, they are completely unreceptive to any other point of view except the one they were spoon fed by Fox news. There is a moderating function built into public discussion, where everyone can see and anyone can post and where the germ of a new idea can infect and affect the thread and all the users.

FK

Hmmm I noticed the same also. I've posted in a few P&R before they were all moved in mass and the only reason I participated is b/c they started in general chat. As far as a solution for it I dont really have a great one. I just feel maybe these posts shouldn't be moved so hastily to allow time for a few people to notice them. Some of them are just hot topics that should stay in general chat for a bit.

for the most part when threads are moved there's a 'Moved' announcement in front of it that you can still click on and go right into the thread. I haven't always used it and I apologize for that but I will always do it from here on in. you have to understand though, threads need to be moved because people pleaded for their own forum, now that they have it threads pertaining to issues they would discuss need to go there............

Understandable. Guess I'll see how the "moved" announcement thing plays out then.

Cmon man...you seriously dont think some of these off-the-wall posts shouldnt be moved to another section? Let's see.....I think I remember the thread "I had toast for breakfast". And there were some other ones that just don't make sense. And just out of curiosity you open them only to find out it's exactly about what the title said. IDK...I'm just saying I get tired of filtering out so many useless threads in general. Not as bad as it used to be but still.

[TJ347]

Do you think anyone really gives a fuck what you have to say? You have been running off at the mouth non stop for all of the couple months you've been here.

Who really gives a fuck what anyone here has to say? I mean, it's a fucking internet board!
That said, If you don't give a fuck what I have to say, then ignore it and move on... but bigger than all that, people have kicked your goddamned back in for some of the shit you say, and you of all people have the audacity to ask if I think anyone gives a fuck what I have to say? Deal with your own situation first, before you start worrying about mine...