The Monaco Grand Prix

[TJ347]

The Formula One Monaco Grand Prix is this Sunday, and it's already being said that rookie Lewis Hamilton is a favorite. Anybody got any thoughts on the race?

[White_Male_Canada]

Whoever wins the pole :lol:

Seriously, it seems that way some of the time on such a narrow street course.

Thursday free practice (2) - Monaco Grand Prix.

1. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.940
2. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari-Ferrari 1:16.215
3. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:16.296
4. Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota-Toyota 1:16.354
5. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Renault-Renault 1:16.753
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 1:16.784
7. Robert Kubica Poland BMW Sauber 1:16.848
8. Nico Rosberg Germany Williams-Toyota 1:16.852
9. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:17.292
10. David Coulthard Britain Red Bull-Renault 1:17.414
11. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Honda-Honda 1:17.449
12. Jenson Button Britain Honda-Honda 1:17.457

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[tsafficianado]

what he said, because everyone knows there is nothing more exciting than a 60 mile race where no one passes anyone.

actually, lewis has made an amazing show of it this year. Kimi is my fave, then Fernando Alonso, but Massa is looking pretty fast too. Monaco is usually about the dullest of all the F1 races (though qualifying was pretty good last year when Schumacher spun his car out to block the last runs, harhar), but I love to see all those fifty million dollar yachts in the harbor....some amazing tubs in that pool.
Now if only Danica could get an F1 ride and show those guys how to REALLY drive a car.

[TJ347]

Now if only Danica could get an F1 ride and show those guys how to REALLY drive a car.

I'm assuming you're joking, as Danica hasn't proven herself in the series she's in. Anyway, there has indeed been passing at Monaco, though it is admittedly rare, and I have a good feeling you'll see a pass or two this race.

[White_Male_Canada]

Now if only Danica could get an F1 ride and show those guys how to REALLY drive a car.

I'm assuming you're joking, as Danica hasn't proven herself in the series she's in. Anyway, there has indeed been passing at Monaco, though it is admittedly rare, and I have a good feeling you'll see a pass or two this race.

He is. Seems to have a fixation on a driver racing around in her bikini. IRL is a distant 3rd behind F1 and CHAMP.

All McLaren front row!

But, I do watch GPs when I can catch them. Thing about F1 is that the technonlogy is taking over. Best tech cars now are Mercedes/McLaren and Ferrari, plug in almost any driver and they win.

Qualifying times - Monaco Grand Prix:

1. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Mercedes 01:15.726
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 01:15.905
3. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 01:15.967

4. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Renault-Renault 01:16.285
5. Nico Rosberg Germany Williams-Toyota 01:16.439
6. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 01:16.784
7. Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber 01:16.832
8. Robert Kubica Poland BMW Sauber 01:16.955
9. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Honda-Honda 01:17.498
10. Jenson Button Britain Honda-Honda 01:17.939
11. Alexander Wurz Austria Williams-Toyota 01:16.662
12. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy Toro Rosso-Ferrari 01:16.703
13. Jarno Trulli Italy Toyota-Toyota 01:16.988
14. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Renault-Renault 01:17.125
15. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari-Ferrari no time Q2

[tsafficianado]

>>> plug in almost any driver and they win.<<<
yes, WMC, i see what you mean

[White_Male_Canada]

>>> plug in almost any driver and they win.<<<
yes, WMC, i see what you mean

I said almost, IRL drivers don`t count ;-)

Unless you prefer them driving around in a bikini.

[ezed]

This is my favorite race of all time. No passing? I'll never forget when Jackie Stewart passed Emerson Fidipaldi (sp?) on the chicane(sp?) on the last lap to win the race.

The chicane was essentially a u-turn. Fidipaldi was pinned on the inside going into the turn by Stewart. Stewart went in wide slammed on the brakes causing his rear end to slide around the turn and ended up with the inside track. Then he gunned it and blew away emerson.

The most amazing manuever I've ever seen in racing.

[White_Male_Canada]

This is my favorite race of all time. No passing? I'll never forget when Jackie Stewart passed Emerson Fidipaldi (sp?) on the chicane(sp?) on the last lap to win the race.

The chicane was essentially a u-turn. Fidipaldi was pinned on the inside going into the turn by Stewart. Stewart went in wide slammed on the brakes causing his rear end to slide around the turn and ended up with the inside track. Then he gunned it and blew away emerson.

The most amazing manuever I've ever seen in racing.

I forgot how amazing the cockpit cam angle looks on such a tight street course after watching the qaulifying.

[TJ347]

Last year, Michael Schumacher passed at least six cars, trying desperately to make sure he finished well into the points, as he was in a heated battle with Alonso. People who say there's no passing at Monaco don't know what the hell they're talking about, as in the last four years, there has been passing in each and every GP. It's rare, but it does happen. And on an unrelated note, while technology has intruded too much into F1, you cannot simply plug any driver into a car and get the same result you would if any other driver was in the car. For example, if Schumacher was still driving, Ferrari would be ahead in the constructor's championship, as he wouldn't be having half the bad luck (due to his unfamiliarity with the car and difficulty adapting) that Kimi's having.

[muhmuh]

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[tsafficianado]

harhar, good one muhmuh

[White_Male_Canada]

Three cars left on the lead lap.

Alonso, who started from pole position, dominated the race, which was pretty uneventful, with no rain and no safety cars periods. Although he was kept honest by his McLaren-Mercedes team-mate, Lewis Hamilton, who took the runners-up spot, the Spaniard was never really threatened.

Felipe Massa took the final place on the podium, more than 60 seconds further back in his Ferrari F2007 and never in contention to challenge either of the McLaren drivers. Massa was the only driver not to be lapped by the McLarens.



1. Fernando Alonso Spain McLaren-Mercedes 78 laps 01:40:29.329
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes +04.095
3. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari +1:09.144
4. Giancarlo Fisichella Italy Renault-Renault +1 lap
5. Robert Kubica Poland BMW Sauber +1 lap
6. Nick Heidfeld Germany BMW Sauber +1 lap
7. Alexander Wurz Austria Williams-Toyota +1 lap
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Ferrari-Ferrari +1 lap

[TJ347]

And now the FIA is investigating McLaren, as some are claiming the team ordered rookie Hamilton to hold his position and not attempt to pass Fernando, which if true violates the FIA's rule against team orders. Funny how this only becomes an issue when Ferrari's not in the lead in the championship...

[Oli]

And now the FIA is investigating McLaren, as some are claiming the team ordered rookie Hamilton to hold his position and not attempt to pass Fernando, which if true violates the FIA's rule against team orders. Funny how this only becomes an issue when Ferrari's not in the lead in the championship...

It's a rule put in place because of Ferrari. I think it was 2002 when Ruebens was running away in Austria and the team told him to slow to allow Michael to pass and win. Ruebens, for all intents anfd purposes, stopped just before the finish line and Schumacher took the victory.

[TJ347]

It's a rule put in place because of Ferrari. I think it was 2002 when Ruebens was running away in Austria and the team told him to slow to allow Michael to pass and win. Ruebens, for all intents anfd purposes, stopped just before the finish line and Schumacher took the victory.

You're right, of course, and as I recall, Michael later gifted Rubens a win in return, drawing further outrage. My mistake on making the previous comment. I just think the FIA and Ferrari have a secret deal that gives them a great deal of influence in the sport, and question rules changes and stewards decisions that help Ferrari claw their way back into contention, as they tried to do last year with Alonso's blocking penalty, though thankfully they failed.

[john1990]

Bit early for the GP!

Maybe stay behind and be a grid girl?

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/23039376/monaco-grand-prix-plans-defy-f1-grid-girl-ban