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JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-24-2007, 04:12 AM
In their primes (lol, Beyonce's is now if she marries Joe Camel http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/10/04/beyonce.jpg& has kids)

http://blogs.citypages.com/jwalsh/images/beyonce_narrowweb__300x416,0%5B1%5D.jpg
http://www.sawf.org/newsphotos/entertainment/beyonce_bday_promo.jpg
http://entimg.msn.com/i/gal/BeyonceKnowles/beyonce_tw_66742574_400.jpg
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/08/17/beyonce_narrowweb__300x510,0.jpg

OR

http://www.kooldjredalert.com/photos/pam_grier.jpg
http://www.celebritypicturesarchive.com/pictures/p/pam-grier/pam-grier-006.jpg
http://macumbalove.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/pamgrier03.jpg
http://www.style.com/style/view/17/62/100106217.jpg
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/174111~Pam-Grier-Posters.jpg

Kabuki
05-24-2007, 04:18 AM
I'm new skool. Beyonce all the way. Pam could never shake it like B.

TJ347
05-24-2007, 04:19 AM
I'll tell you something you already know JWBL... Black men, I'd say 25 and older, will say Pam. Everybody else, Beyonce. What do you want to bet?

whatsupwithat
05-24-2007, 04:21 AM
aw, man. i can't even think about choosing between those two. you're talking about the women that are neck and neck right at the top of my list.

timxxx
05-24-2007, 04:29 AM
Easy, Pam Grier all day long

Legend
05-24-2007, 04:31 AM
Grier all the way i'd liked to see beyonce kick three other girls at the same time calling them jive turkeys.

canihavu
05-24-2007, 04:37 AM
Pam Grier hands down... I STILL don't know what all the hype is about Beyonce

Dengoza
05-24-2007, 04:37 AM
I must say that Beyonce is such an awesome symbol of Beauty I am crazy crazy crazy atracted to her, but those old pix of Pam look really nice. I kinda like the way girls acted in the old days... Hmmm too close to call, sorry, no vote from me.

One thing is Beyonce looks kinda playfull and girly, and Pam looks really tough and really smart. So in the end I would have to say Pam.

sucka4chix
05-24-2007, 04:38 AM
Man, great poll,but no contest---- PAM GRIER!!!!!
I'm sure we're only talking about physical hotness, but Beyonce is
so f'ing phony and whenever she opens her mouth she makes me sick, especially when she sings--- all that crazy hollering. She's so full of herself.
But Pam represented for a whole generation. She was the Marilyn Monroe of the black community. Beyonce will never reach her status. Plus she aged well into the ultimate MILF (or even GILF).
Definitely Pam and yes I'm over 25!!

kukm4
05-24-2007, 04:41 AM
Pam Grier

whatsupwithat
05-24-2007, 04:47 AM
btw, JWBL, i see you didn't choose either. tough one, eh? :)

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-24-2007, 04:47 AM
I agree with most of you regarding Pam, but sucka I've been watching Pam for 3 years on the L Word and I've been disappointed in her appearance.

General124
05-24-2007, 04:52 AM
Pam Grier hands down... I STILL don't know what all the hype is about Beyonce

AMEN!!! Beyonce sucks and is all hype IMO. I love Pam Grier. At least she wasn't afraid to pose nude. :D

Fox
05-24-2007, 04:54 AM
...but Beyonce is
so f'ing phony and whenever she opens her mouth she makes me sick, especially when she sings--- all that crazy hollering. She's so full of herself.

Surely you're kidding... right? Beyonce comes across as one of the most humble people around (entertainer or not). On stage she's got attitude and all that, but that's an act.

Anyway, as beautiful and young as Beyonce is, I've always had a thing for Pam. I've thoroughly enjoyed her older films and now enjoying her in the L-Word. She's fly and the ultimate MILF.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-24-2007, 05:09 AM
it's a tough call for me, Pam's titties verses Beyonce's lower body

Darkwing Duck
05-24-2007, 05:12 AM
Beyonce's pretty, beautiful even, but Pam just exudes "fuck the everloving hell out of me" sexiness. Beyonce's the girl you bring to mom, Pam's the mistress you set up in an apartment on the side.

whatsupwithat
05-24-2007, 05:25 AM
Beyonce's pretty, beautiful even, but Pam just exudes "fuck the everloving hell out of me" sexiness. Beyonce's the girl you bring to mom, Pam's the mistress you set up in an apartment on the side.

See, this is what I'm caught in right now with these two...right smack dab in the middle. :)

Willie Escalade
05-24-2007, 05:48 AM
I'll tell you something you already know JWBL... Black men, I'd say 25 and older, will say Pam. Everybody else, Beyonce. What do you want to bet?
I was born in 1976. I picked Foxy Brown over Foxy Cleopatra. Even though I still think Ms. Knowles is sexy as hell, even at an older age Pam still does it for me. She appears to never take any shit from anyone!

Kabuki
05-24-2007, 05:56 AM
Beyonce oozes sex as well. I can't believe she's not getting any love here :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpghmd_KRjc

Check out the dance sequence at 2:38 on the vid. It looks better on a tv screen, but I was mesmerized when I first saw that vid on tv.

Tanuki
05-24-2007, 05:57 AM
Beyonce is a force of nature.


It is no contest.

TJ347
05-24-2007, 06:09 AM
I agree with most of you regarding Pam, but sucka I've been watching Pam for 3 years on the L Word and I've been disappointed in her appearance.

Come on! Pam Grier's how old now? Plus, remember, Pam Grier is au natural (I'm reasonably sure), and to have had no surgery and look as good as she does at her age... I can accept that she shows some signs of aging. Oh, yeah... Co-sign on the phony Beyonce thing. Modern Diana Ross, all the way.

sucka4chix
05-24-2007, 06:11 AM
...but Beyonce is
so f'ing phony and whenever she opens her mouth she makes me sick, especially when she sings--- all that crazy hollering. She's so full of herself.

Surely you're kidding... right? Beyonce comes across as one of the most humble people around (entertainer or not). On stage she's got attitude and all that, but that's an act.

Anyway, as beautiful and young as Beyonce is, I've always had a thing for Pam. I've thoroughly enjoyed her older films and now enjoying her in the L-Word. She's fly and the ultimate MILF.
Damn, have you ever watched or listened to Beyonce. First there was the I'll kick anybody outta Destiny's Child who might take spotlight off of me. Then there's all the bullshit where she tries to be so sanctimonious. She told parents that "Bootylicious" wasn't about booty, it was about being positive,"anybody can be bootylicious". Yeah ok, Miss I don't think you're ready for this jelly.If you can't see all that humility and meekness is an act, you need to be a better judge of character. She was pissed when that Jennifer Hudson(?) chick got an award and she didn't, saying something rude like she shoulda stayed thick and not lost weight maybe she woulda won. And she's got such high morals that she's gonna play a lesbian in some pseudo-porn love story? Pa-lease.

sucka4chix
05-24-2007, 06:13 AM
I agree with most of you regarding Pam, but sucka I've been watching Pam for 3 years on the L Word and I've been disappointed in her appearance.

Come on! Pam Grier's how old now? Plus, remember, Pam Grier is au natural (I'm reasonably sure), and to have had no surgery and look as good as she does at her age... I can accept that she shows some signs of aging.

EXACTLY!

Legend
05-24-2007, 06:15 AM
...but Beyonce is
so f'ing phony and whenever she opens her mouth she makes me sick, especially when she sings--- all that crazy hollering. She's so full of herself.

Surely you're kidding... right? Beyonce comes across as one of the most humble people around (entertainer or not). On stage she's got attitude and all that, but that's an act.

Anyway, as beautiful and young as Beyonce is, I've always had a thing for Pam. I've thoroughly enjoyed her older films and now enjoying her in the L-Word. She's fly and the ultimate MILF.
Damn, have you ever watched or listened to Beyonce. First there was the I'll kick anybody outta Destiny's Child who might take spotlight off of me. Then there's all the bullshit where she tries to be so sanctimonious. She told parents that "Bootylicious" wasn't about booty, it was about being positive,"anybody can be bootylicious". Yeah ok, Miss I don't think you're ready for this jelly.If you can't see all that humility and meekness is an act, you need to be a better judge of character. She was pissed when that Jennifer Hudson(?) chick got an award and she didn't, saying something rude like she shoulda stayed thick and not lost weight maybe she woulda won. And she's got such high morals that she's gonna play a lesbian in some pseudo-porn love story? Pa-lease.

You sound like a jealous queen,it isn't that serious!

TJT
05-24-2007, 06:16 AM
Are you kiddin'? Pam Grier,no contest. She'd already had David by the time any of those pictures were taken and that ass was still gravity defying. Looked like two cannonballs stickin' out.

Up top Pam was all natural and awesome. Plus,she was way better lookin'. Holy moly she was good lookin'! As my Dad used to say,"That's a full-grown woman."


Beyonce has hips and not much lift to her booty. Nothin' much up top and is merely cute.

Those were the days. Pam,Lola Falana,and Chaka Khan all out there at the same time. (There has never been ass to surpass the young Chaka Khan's. Never will be.) Those women were gifts from the Gods.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-24-2007, 06:30 AM
Beyonce has hips and not much lift to her booty. Nothin' much up top and is merely cute.

I don't know man, Beyonce made me look twice in the end of that Beautiful Liar video, her whole lower body is tempting...................

Pam Grier's upper body (IMO) is timeless, her cleavage shots alone screamed, cowgirl position looking at this bitch jumping up & down tits flapping up & down resulting in a huge nut across her tits bouncing off her nipples hitting her chin which she'd lick off sexually.................

still a tough call

AllanahStarrNYC
05-24-2007, 06:30 AM
Well I think it's hard to compare the two-

Beyonce now is what Diana Ross was to the 70's- iconic singer, actress, style icon

And Pam Grier is like the Pam Anderson of her day.

Both are beautiful but in two very different ways.....

Kabuki
05-24-2007, 06:34 AM
Well I think it's hard to compare the two-

Beyonce now is what Diana Ross was to the 70's- iconic singer, actress, style icon

And Pam Grier is like the Pam Anderson of her day.

Both are beautiful but in two very different ways.....

I think your statement is so true Allanah.

TJ347
05-24-2007, 06:42 AM
Well I think it's hard to compare the two-

Beyonce now is what Diana Ross was to the 70's- iconic singer, actress, style icon

And Pam Grier is like the Pam Anderson of her day.

Both are beautiful but in two very different ways.....


I can see where Beyonce is the Diana Ross of today, and in fact I said that a bit earlier in this thread. Diana Ross was the star, and had to have all eyes on her. Like the Supremes before them, Destiny's Child fell apart due to the ego of one individual, and like Diana before her, Beyonce will have her run before flaming out, derided by virtually everyone who ever worked with her.
As far as Pam Grier being like the Pam Anderson of her day... I don't see how. Pam Grier has starred in a number of classic movies, where Pam Anderson.... no. And that's only one way the two of them are very different. Pam Grier's personal business has never been put out there like Pam Anderson's has what with the high profile marriage, sex tape, Hep C deal and whatnot, and as I said before, Pam Grier is all natural. Pam Anderson... well, you know! :wink:

Hara_Juku Tgirl
05-24-2007, 06:45 AM
Beyonce..Although Pam is classic I cannot relate to her tomboyish side. So Yes Beyonce it is! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

AllanahStarrNYC
05-24-2007, 06:48 AM
Well I think it's hard to compare the two-

Beyonce now is what Diana Ross was to the 70's- iconic singer, actress, style icon

And Pam Grier is like the Pam Anderson of her day.

Both are beautiful but in two very different ways.....


I can see where Beyonce is the Diana Ross of today, and in fact I said that a bit earlier in this thread. Diana Ross was the star, and had to have all eyes on her. Like the Supremes before them, Destiny's Child fell apart due to the ego of one individual, and like Diana before her, Beyonce will have her run before flaming out, derided by virtually everyone who ever worked with her.
As far as Pam Grier being like the Pam Anderson of her day... I don't see how. Pam Grier has starred in a number of classic movies, where Pam Anderson.... no. And that's only one way the two of them are very different. Pam Grier's personal business has never been put out there like Pam Anderson's has what with the high profile marriage, sex tape, Hep C deal and whatnot, and as I said before, Pam Grier is all natural. Pam Anderson... well, you know! :wink:

While Beyonces career, rise to super stardom is in many ways like Miss Ross- Beyonce will be an icon like Diana Ross. Diana Ross as you said was 'the star' of the 70's as Beyonce is now.

The comparison I made between both Pam's was regardign their sex symbol status.

The comparison's I made regarding all the ladies was what I felt they were career, status etc. Beyonce and Diana Ross look nothing a like either. :)

TJ347
05-24-2007, 06:53 AM
Well I think it's hard to compare the two-

Beyonce now is what Diana Ross was to the 70's- iconic singer, actress, style icon

And Pam Grier is like the Pam Anderson of her day.

Both are beautiful but in two very different ways.....


I can see where Beyonce is the Diana Ross of today, and in fact I said that a bit earlier in this thread. Diana Ross was the star, and had to have all eyes on her. Like the Supremes before them, Destiny's Child fell apart due to the ego of one individual, and like Diana before her, Beyonce will have her run before flaming out, derided by virtually everyone who ever worked with her.
As far as Pam Grier being like the Pam Anderson of her day... I don't see how. Pam Grier has starred in a number of classic movies, where Pam Anderson.... no. And that's only one way the two of them are very different. Pam Grier's personal business has never been put out there like Pam Anderson's has what with the high profile marriage, sex tape, Hep C deal and whatnot, and as I said before, Pam Grier is all natural. Pam Anderson... well, you know! :wink:

While Beyonces career, rise to super stardom is in many ways like Miss Ross- Beyonce will be an icon like Diana Ross. Diana Ross as you said was 'the star' of the 70's as Beyonce is now.

The comparison I made between both Pam's was regardign their sex symbol status.

The comparison's I made regarding all the ladies was what I felt they were career, status etc. Beyonce and Diana Ross look nothing a like either. :)

Gotcha! :wink:

Fox
05-24-2007, 07:06 AM
...but Beyonce is
so f'ing phony and whenever she opens her mouth she makes me sick, especially when she sings--- all that crazy hollering. She's so full of herself.

Surely you're kidding... right? Beyonce comes across as one of the most humble people around (entertainer or not). On stage she's got attitude and all that, but that's an act.

Anyway, as beautiful and young as Beyonce is, I've always had a thing for Pam. I've thoroughly enjoyed her older films and now enjoying her in the L-Word. She's fly and the ultimate MILF.
Damn, have you ever watched or listened to Beyonce. First there was the I'll kick anybody outta Destiny's Child who might take spotlight off of me. Then there's all the bullshit where she tries to be so sanctimonious. She told parents that "Bootylicious" wasn't about booty, it was about being positive,"anybody can be bootylicious". Yeah ok, Miss I don't think you're ready for this jelly.If you can't see all that humility and meekness is an act, you need to be a better judge of character. She was pissed when that Jennifer Hudson(?) chick got an award and she didn't, saying something rude like she shoulda stayed thick and not lost weight maybe she woulda won. And she's got such high morals that she's gonna play a lesbian in some pseudo-porn love story? Pa-lease.

ok, you brought up some good points I didn't think about or forgot. I do remember thinking to myself awhile back that there were some contradictory messages being put out. What's this about her playing a lesbian in a pseudo-porn love story? :shock:

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
05-24-2007, 07:09 AM
LMAO

TomSelis
05-24-2007, 07:13 AM
Grier....look at those funbags.

blckhaze
05-24-2007, 08:06 AM
pam grier. she is still quite hot (milfs are always good imo)

gaiseric
05-24-2007, 09:43 AM
Definitely Pam Grier

peggygee
05-24-2007, 01:16 PM
Pam Grier, one of my 'sheroes'.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2/magi43/mysheros55-1.gif

sucka4chix
05-24-2007, 05:44 PM
What's this about her playing a lesbian in a pseudo-porn love story? :shock:

She alledgedly signed on to do this lesbian love story opposite Eva Longoria. Supposed to be a legit film but sounds like some guys lurid fantasy!

ottorocket
05-24-2007, 06:00 PM
Pam! Hot dam!

south ov da border
05-25-2007, 12:48 AM
beyonce has nothing on Pam, not even close. If uou don't know anything about pam, too bad.

specialk
05-25-2007, 12:54 AM
I'm old school, so Pam all the way....but Beyonce ain't no slouch either, just different generations.

mustang
05-25-2007, 01:15 AM
I am from H-town and as much as I would like to say Beyonce......Pam was the woman in her day!. A little before my time but I have seen her old films and she was ....and still is....fine as hell. Wouldn't toss either one out of the sack though.

ezed
05-25-2007, 05:25 AM
Pam.

Realgirls4me
05-25-2007, 05:52 AM
Not to hijack this thread, but if we are focusing on African-American beauties, for me it would be Kathleen Bradley, who was a Barker's Beauty on The Price Is Right for a few years and had a bit part on Ice Cube's Friday about 10 years ago as the sexy neighbor Mrs Parker, and an actress by the name of Tracy Reed who had a part in the movie Car Wash in the '70s, and numerous Love American Style episodes and other '70s sitcoms. Both were/are simply dreamy. Both women of this poll are certainly beautiful, but they are neither in the class of Bradley or Reed. ...To each his own, right?


I'm old school obviously, but Peggy Gee would know who I'm talking about if anyone.


Carry on. :)

TJT
05-25-2007, 06:13 AM
Kathleen Bradley is somethin'. Her character's midget husband beating Bernie Mac's ass in Friday was friggin' hilarious.

I'm sure I'd know Tracy Reed if I saw her,but her face escapes me right now.

Quinn
05-25-2007, 06:15 AM
Kathleen Bradley is somethin'. Her character's midget husband beating Bernie Mac's ass in Friday was friggin' hilarious.

I'm sure I'd know Tracy Reed if I saw her,but her face escapes me right now.

I remember her well. A real stunner. "Friday" was an awesome movie by the way.

-Quinn

Realgirls4me
05-25-2007, 06:17 AM
TJT: Let's see if I can find anything on Reed ...


Wasn't Bradley's body to die for? She just oozed sex from every fiber on her voluptuous body in that scene.

TJT
05-25-2007, 06:19 AM
Yes indeed. A whole lot of woman.

Realgirls4me
05-25-2007, 06:49 AM
Here's the best I could do on Tracy Reed, who happens to share a lot of similarities to Bradley. I'd give Reed, if I remember her correctly, a slight edge on the figure front. That tells you something if you remember Bradley's delicious body (What a waste modeling shampoo and toasters all those years, huh?) in that Friday scene.

Reed was at her peak in the '70s when she was in her mid 20s, but she still looked hot years later on Knots Landing.

She's obviously the one on the lower left in this three part pic. Beautiful smile. She looks to be miscegenated.

kaientai
05-25-2007, 09:57 AM
have to go with pamm grier

peggygee
05-25-2007, 03:55 PM
Not to hijack this thread, but if we are focusing on African-American beauties, for me it would be Kathleen Bradley, who was a Barker's Beauty on The Price Is Right for a few years and had a bit part on Ice Cube's Friday about 10 years ago as the sexy neighbor Mrs Parker, and an actress by the name of Tracy Reed who had a part in the movie Car Wash in the '70s, and numerous Love American Style episodes and other '70s sitcoms. Both were/are simply dreamy. Both women of this poll are certainly beautiful, but they are neither in the class of Bradley or Reed. ...To each his own, right?


I'm old school obviously, but Peggy Gee would know who I'm talking about if anyone.


Carry on. :)

Wow, you know me so well. :wink:

I know exactly who you're talking about. Tracy Reed was Franklin Ajaye's
love interest in Car Wash. He was sweating her throughout the whole
movie.

And Mrs. Parker (Kathleen Bradley) is fine.

It's true what they say, Black don't crack. 8)

Realgirls4me
05-25-2007, 07:40 PM
Wow, you know me so well. :wink:

I know exactly who you're talking about. Tracy Reed was Franklin Ajaye's
love interest in Car Wash. He was sweating her throughout the whole
movie.

And Mrs. Parker (Kathleen Bradley) is fine.

It's true what they say, Black don't crack. 8)

I think I've just officially hijacked this thread. Sorry. :(

Yes, that's the Reed I'm talking about. It's too bad Carwash didn't showcase her looks more. She was always under all that waitress garb. I think it was a Love American Style episode I saw her once with Scoey Mitchell where she's wearing this two piece lingerie piece, and let me tell you ... (cold shower time)


:)

fiftyfin1
10-28-2007, 10:57 AM
pam