Different approach methods..................................

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I'm in an IM with this gorgeous chick that often posts on here and we were discussing a few things, one of them being the current TS Escorts who are racists http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=19778 thread and we both wondered how many people approach people they are interested in......................

I'll try to start this thread off with my own, which in all fairness is bullshit because in all honesty I never have to approach a woman (thank you GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) but if i did this is what I'd say:

"Hi............................"

That's it, I obviously didn't put more than a millisecond into it but that's all I feel it would take. I'll explain my POV. A woman knows within 30 seconds of seeing an individual (we have quite a few bisexual women on HA) whether or not they are going to give them the time of day............. If you feel you need to work out a routine to break some barrier some dame has put up to sift out her potential next partner you're wasting your time. I've found in the past & present that eye contact often says more than any words. A woman looking at a man a particular way http://www.bemyastrologer.com/couplecute.jpg will usually end up like this http://www.celio.com/medias/actus_00.jpg

I'm curious to see other folks approaches, lesbians welcome to reply (hehe)

[tsntx]

A woman knows within 30 seconds of seeing an individual whether or not they are going to give them the time of day..... (hehe)


:claps :claps :claps

[TJ347]

Interestingly, all I've ever done is say "Hi", and in the case of any woman I seriously had any interest in, they always responded back positively, if not initially, then shortly thereafter. All that shit about having "game" and all that... If it makes people feel good to have "game", then that's fine. I like to keep shit as simple as possible myself, and a hello followed by a conversation accomplishes that quite well for me.

[tsntx]

just one of the many jerk off convos i get daily... this just happened. it fits. LEARN FROM IT DUMBASSES.

lance_200320032000 (5/14/2007 11:59:03 AM): is that you in the pic? bc you look totally banging!
lance_200320032000 (5/14/2007 11:59:25 AM) i have a friend in cedar park. where do you live in austin?
(5/15/2007 12:00:06 AM): ok?
(5/15/2007 12:00:11 AM): in austin
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:00:19 AM): cool
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:00:29 AM): wanna hang out when i come visit?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:00:30 AM): :D
(5/15/2007 12:00:40 AM): sure $250
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:00:49 AM): for what?
(5/15/2007 12:01:05 AM): to hang out w me
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:01:10 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:01:18 AM): what will we do?
(5/15/2007 12:01:26 AM): we will hang out
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:01:28 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:01:51 AM): what will u wear?
(5/15/2007 12:02:03 AM): i guess well see how things go
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:02:10 AM): cool
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:02:35 AM): can i add u?
(5/15/2007 12:02:49 AM): no but u can msg me wen u come to town
(5/15/2007 12:02:55 AM): wen r u coming
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:02:59 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:03:05 AM): when is a good time 4 u?
(5/15/2007 12:03:16 AM): u said u dont live here
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:03:34 AM): yup
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:03:40 AM): but i can make plans to come
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:03:49 AM): just tell me where and when, hehe
(5/15/2007 12:04:08 AM): i guess wen u come let me know
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:04:13 AM): ok
(5/15/2007 12:04:17 AM): do u have a pic?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:04:20 AM): what do u do for a living?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:04:22 AM): on my profile
(5/15/2007 12:04:28 AM): send it. im not going to search for it
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:04:37 AM): u have more too?
(5/15/2007 12:05:23 AM): hmmm anymore im not really convinced thats u
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:05:29 AM): it is
(5/15/2007 12:05:37 AM): i see
(5/15/2007 12:05:43 AM): myspace profile?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:05:48 AM): yup
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:05:51 AM): u?
(5/15/2007 12:05:54 AM): link
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:06:04 AM): www.myspace.com/lance_200320032000
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:06:07 AM): u?
(5/15/2007 12:07:00 AM): yes
(5/15/2007 12:07:07 AM): yeah i seriously doubt thats u in the pic
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:07:11 AM): um ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:07:17 AM): it really is, but ok
(5/15/2007 12:07:35 AM): if that were true ud have more pics and ppl on your profile would actually know you
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:08:27 AM): well, u only have 1 too
(5/15/2007 12:08:51 AM): hardly sweetheart. i have 8 pages of pics
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:09:17 AM): lemme see
(5/15/2007 12:09:31 AM): lemme see the webcam you took that pic w/
(5/15/2007 12:09:44 AM): or let me guess its broken/ dont have it/ other room
(5/15/2007 12:09:48 AM): lol exactly
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:09:50 AM): hang on its in the other room in a box
(5/15/2007 12:09:53 AM): take u 2 secs to get it
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:09:56 AM): u really want me to get it?
(5/15/2007 12:10:00 AM): sure, i could use a laugh
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:09 AM): ok, show me a pic too, ok?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:21 AM): u still gonna charge me to hang out?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:22 AM): lol
(5/15/2007 12:10:29 AM): yeah y not? ure looking for a fuck and probably married and ure using a FAKE pic
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:39 AM): what do u do for a living?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:42 AM): dancer?
(5/15/2007 12:11:02 AM): no, and i didnt ask what you do so its not really a concern for u
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:11:10 AM): what then?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:11:15 AM): u married?
(5/15/2007 12:11:31 AM): no
(5/15/2007 12:11:33 AM): why would you ask that?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:11:37 AM): i am
(5/15/2007 12:11:51 AM): thats fine. most guys like you are
(5/15/2007 12:11:59 AM): im not shocked
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:12:07 AM): ever met a married man?
(5/15/2007 12:12:30 AM): plenty
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:12:47 AM): mmm
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:12:50 AM): what did u do?
(5/15/2007 12:13:08 AM): dnt worry about it. let me know wen ure serious and want to make a real apt.
(5/15/2007 12:13:10 AM): i dont have time for games
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:13:22 AM): i am baby
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:13:28 AM): i have a friend in cedar park
(5/15/2007 12:13:55 AM): so gonna get on that cam or no?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:13 AM): yeah, but u can't charge me
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:17 AM): if i show u
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:18 AM): :D
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:23 AM): that's my fee
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:24 AM): lol
(5/15/2007 12:14:36 AM): k not interested have fun w/ ur friend in cedar park, im here for business not a lame cam show of some guy w/ a fake pic
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:15:52 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:00 AM): i have an 8.5 inchck cock
(5/15/2007 12:16:04 AM): so? why dont you go fuck yourself w/ it
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:07 AM): lol
(5/15/2007 12:16:14 AM): its still $250 for me to have any desire to see it
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:15 AM): i can show u on cam baby
(5/15/2007 12:16:19 AM): congrats. you said that. but failed to show shit
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:40 AM): $250 for a handjob or footjob?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:54 AM): what if i brought my married friend too?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:58 AM): $250 each?
(5/15/2007 12:17:01 AM): yep
(5/15/2007 12:17:14 AM): do they all use fake pics of hot young guys too?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:17:18 AM): how far will u go?
(5/15/2007 12:17:26 AM): its obvious this convo is as far as it will ever go and it seems to have run its full course... any last words?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:17:29 AM): hmm
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:17:35 AM): ever had dp?
(5/15/2007 12:18:08 AM): when u want to make an apt. let me know. i dont discuss these matters. and nice choice for a final comment moron
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:18:20 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:18:23 AM): ttyl
(5/15/2007 12:18:29 AM): yeah im sure. real soon after i block you

[LG]

To Jen and the girls here:

Yeah, there are plenty of jerks, but there are also genuine guys out there who are looking to meet girls. And we're not all just trying to get into your panties. Hell, in my case, it's a geographical impossibility to even try to do so, considering I live thousands of miles away. And that's the kind of distance I would only travel if I was genuinely interested in meeting a girl. If I just wanted sex, there are other options closer by.

Sure, I might walk up to a girl in a club or bar, try to chat her up, see how it goes, and if the chemistry is right it might lead to something. But at 30, I'm not really into one night stands anymore. I'm looking for something more serious.

So all I'm saying is, give a guy the benefit of the doubt. See how the conversation goes. Sure, if he starts being rude or abusive or if he obviously is only looking for sex and you're not interested, cut him off. If he's married and wants a bit on the side, then he's a scum bastard, so block him- he deserves it. But if he's being polite but a little secretive at first perhaps (and you have to understand that coming out entirely into the open is not easy for a guy), give him a chance. Most of us will open up to someone who's willing to hear us and who we're willing to trust. Not every one of us is an asshole.

[MacShreach]

just one of the many jerk off convos i get daily...

It amazes me you give them the time.

BTW that avatar pic is the best I've seen of you yet.

[tsntx]

i for one dont think "every" guy that comes up to me is an asshole or looking to get laid... at least not at that moment... but i, and every other girl here, get hit on nonstop day in/ day out. it never ends. sure thats flattering but almost 4yrs into my transition its fucking old. we've all heard every line, every bad convo, every bad idea, any thing you can think of WEVE ALL ALREADY HEARD IT A BILLION TIMES. so when youre fake or looking for something were NOT.... we can see through it. guys hitting on us do so by following 1. something they saw work in a movie 2. w/ a preconceived notion that we have never heard "their" line before 3. that were just whores anyway so we dont turn anyone down 4. that were sooooo ecstatic a "straight" guy is hitting on us that we will just be BEGGING for him to let us at his "straight dick" when he isnt even in the slightest attractive or up to said girls level

we dont need to be put on some high level of unobtainabilty bc were just normal girls looking for normal guys... be yourself and enjoy the rewards that will bring... be a fake, or a dick and enjoy going home w/ your hand or a few hundred bucks less then you planned.

[tsntx]

ty mac

[LG]

i for one dont think "every" guy that comes up to me is an asshole or looking to get laid... at least not at that moment... but i, and every other girl here, get hit on nonstop day in/ day out. it never ends. sure thats flattering but almost 4yrs into my transition its fucking old. we've all heard every line, every bad convo, every bad idea, any thing you can think of WEVE ALL ALREADY HEARD IT A BILLION TIMES. so when youre fake or looking for something were NOT.... we can see through it. guys hitting on us do so by following 1. something they saw work in a movie 2. w/ a preconceived notion that we have never heard "their" line before 3. that were just whores anyway so we dont turn anyone down 4. that were sooooo ecstatic a "straight" guy is hitting on us that we will just be BEGGING for him to let us at his "straight dick" when he isnt even in the slightest attractive or up to said girls level

we dont need to be put on some high level of unobtainabilty bc were just normal girls looking for normal guys... be yourself and enjoy the rewards that will bring... be a fake, or a dick and enjoy going home w/ your hand or a few hundred bucks less then you planned.

I know what you're saying. I'm sure being hit on by jerks must be tiresome and infuriating sometimes. I know a few guys like that- who just pretend to be God's gift to women when they talk to them and then go around telling other guys about how hot the "bitch" (as they often call the girl) was, even though they probably ended up going home alone. These guys have little respect for women and I have little respect for them.

One guy i know personally gets blond highlights in the summer, has a car with tinted windows and always talks about going out and getting laid. He thinks he's a player but everyone else knows he's an asshole.

Anyway, it's good to know you haven't lost faith in the male population entirely. I hope you find the right guy.

Now if only I were in Texas maybe I'd stand a chance.

:D

[tsntx]

possibly ;)

[Alison Faraday]

Very few men have ANY respect for women, and certainly not for transsexuals.

9-times-out-of-10 you're talking to someone who is not only arrogant, but who is whacking their cock down onto a specially made keyboard with gigantic keys.

It has only been recently that I've installed the Yahoo IM client again, and I've quickly come to realise why I'd managed to do without it for 2-years. The chances of having what is considered a normal conversation with someone is next to nil, and when it does look like you've found someone who is sane, it soon becomes clear that they're using one of those oversized custom keyboards too.

The Internet as a saviour and great communication tool?? I think half the people on the Internet are certifiable nuts. Which begs the question of why they're not out there in their own real lives getting on with what they do if it's so important and they're so good at it.

What are they doing here? What am I doing here? This is what the Internet is.

[Jericho]

Very few men have ANY respect for women, and certainly not for transsexuals.

9-times-out-of-10 you're talking to someone who is not only arrogant, but who is whacking their cock down onto a specially made keyboard with gigantic keys.

It has only been recently that I've installed the Yahoo IM client again, and I've quickly come to realise why I'd managed to do without it for 2-years. The chances of having what is considered a normal conversation with someone is next to nil, and when it does look like you've found someone who is sane, it soon becomes clear that they're using one of those oversized custom keyboards too.

The Internet as a saviour and great communication tool?? I think half the people on the Internet are certifiable nuts. Which begs the question of why they're not out there in their own real lives getting on with what they do if it's so important and they're so good at it.

What are they doing here? What am I doing here? This is what the Internet is.

This keyboard? ;-)

[vanished]

i for one dont think "every" guy that comes up to me is an asshole or looking to get laid... at least not at that moment... but i, and every other girl here, get hit on nonstop day in/ day out. it never ends. sure thats flattering but almost 4yrs into my transition its fucking old. we've all heard every line, every bad convo, every bad idea, any thing you can think of WEVE ALL ALREADY HEARD IT A BILLION TIMES. so when youre fake or looking for something were NOT.... we can see through it. guys hitting on us do so by following 1. something they saw work in a movie 2. w/ a preconceived notion that we have never heard "their" line before 3. that were just whores anyway so we dont turn anyone down 4. that were sooooo ecstatic a "straight" guy is hitting on us that we will just be BEGGING for him to let us at his "straight dick" when he isnt even in the slightest attractive or up to said girls level

we dont need to be put on some high level of unobtainabilty bc were just normal girls looking for normal guys... be yourself and enjoy the rewards that will bring... be a fake, or a dick and enjoy going home w/ your hand or a few hundred bucks less then you planned.

So true and so well said and I think posting the convo was an excellent way to illustrate this. I rarely chat with the girls that attract me but perhaps that keeps me from sinking into the abyss of the Line. What is a DP anyway? But seriously, I think honesty with yourself first is the key and the then pride in how you present yourself and then last but certainly not least, an attraction for the person you're chatting up. Find something sincere and don't insult their intelligence or dignity. It's Kant's Categorical Imperative.

I also find appalling any man who thinks to himself that, as you said, "you're whores anyway". I'm the kind of guy who watches "Cops" and sees the humanity. How did that person, if they're in serious trouble, get there? Where did they lose love in their lives, right down to that final loss of love for themselves?

That's not to compare you with the street walkers of Las Vegas - absolutely, certainly not. But that's where that guy and so many others like him create a chasm of ignorance they can never breach because they don't respect you from the word "go". They think because you choose to sleep with men for profit, that somehow makes you a lesser person than they are. It is in fact he who is a lesser person because he can't fuck people he respects.

WIth a girl who chooses the Life but does so her of her own volition, is beautiful, and commands a respectable rate, often working from the comfort of her home, I respect that. It's not easy and it's a decision that was made. There are times that perhaps she thinks of what it would be like to be June Cleaver instead of June Cleavage but they come and go like rainy days. It can be a lonely life at times and a hard life - every day is a spin on the Asshole Roulette wheel.

But for all those times an asshole comes along, there is hopefully at least one guy that respects the person and is there to pay for a service he values from a person he values. I've slept with quite a few girls over the years (not bragging - it happens to be true and I'm rather happy about it because I came to love them as fellow outsiders) but stopped a few years ago when I stopped connecting with them and as I sought nourishment in ltr's. I learned that I was not so much paying for the sex (although it's one of Life's Best Gifts) but for the companionship, the tenderness and the acceptance. The acceptance. So when I approach a girl, it's with the outstretched hand of acceptance, waiting for hers in a return and perhaps some moments of kindness in a largely indifferent and at times, ,cruel world.

P.S. We like seeing your eyes in your photo at right - the sunglasses were hiding you! lol (No, that's not a line...lol)

I like this thread - I have approached women at bars rarely and it's always only because I want to take to them not because I want to fuck them. That comes with time if you want to talk and like them. Nietzsche said the basis of every good marriage is the ability of those two people to have a conversation. Amen.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

If you're a guy in a pickup bar and you just wanna talk to a chick the EASIEST WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THAT is with eye contact, as stated earlier they already have the Wikipedia of pickup lines
http://www.pick-up-lines.info/pick_up_lines.jpg (http://www.pick-up-lines.info/) so you know the simps that enter the bar won't get far with those unless it happens to be on or near the 1st or the 15th of the month; oddly enough women like a challenge as much as the man does...... and off the flow of the topic for a second, just because a person is transtioning DOES NOT mean you can walk up to them in a pickup bar and say shit and expect it to fly just because you know what they started out as, treat them like a dame and that broad might respect you more.............

[trannybanger]

johnny-once again i agree with you. i never have to approach women either, and the eyes are powerful. in most scenarios, the right look and the woman always comes to you.... and then its like.. "hey..how are you?"

[BlackAdder]

You know thats odd, because when i make direct eye contact and smile, girls usually go all quiet and shy n shit...to the point of smiling and looking down or away...maybe its a regional thing?????

[trannybanger]

hmm could be. but now that i am thinking about it, i don't smile too much either.... i just try and let me eyes be the only signal i suppose.. i don't want to look overly eager or agressive... just want to make them feel desired in a way they are comfortable with if that makes sense. i have always been this way with gg or tgirls.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

nah they do that elsewhere, lol I get that a few times a week but broads give me the "you have bedroom eyes" line, I don't mean to look at em like I wanna fuck em, but if you walk around in a tight fitting dress with some Blahnik heels on asking me silly questions you could look up on the web you're gonna get the evil eye

[BigTime]

The top four reason women give it up (with out a fight) to a guy.

1. He’s good looking
2. He’s rich
3. He’s famous
4. His reputation as Mr. Big is not exaggerated

Your advice on how to approach the ladies is indicative of the fact that you fall into the above category.
Your plate is always full, thus you need not know how to hunt.

Speaking as a member of the non-top-four, (the empty plate group), I became proficient in the art of Mind Fucking.
Sure, to the untrained eye, there exists some obscure 30 second ‘is she interested’ rule.
I beg to differ! It takes less time for a Master Mind Fucker to talk the panties off a Nun.
(Not recommended: after all, this person is giving up GOD to be with you, that puts a lot of pressure, on her)

Summary: Sure guys are going to appear lame in the development stages of becoming a competent Mind Fucker.
While the ladies (and the privilege four) scowl and mock them, I applaud their perseverance!

[trannybanger]

ok you got me... i am good looking :wink:

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

just one of the many jerk off convos i get daily... this just happened. it fits. LEARN FROM IT DUMBASSES.

lance_200320032000 (5/14/2007 11:59:03 AM): is that you in the pic? bc you look totally banging!
lance_200320032000 (5/14/2007 11:59:25 AM) i have a friend in cedar park. where do you live in austin?
(5/15/2007 12:00:06 AM): ok?
(5/15/2007 12:00:11 AM): in austin
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:00:19 AM): cool
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:00:29 AM): wanna hang out when i come visit?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:00:30 AM): :D
(5/15/2007 12:00:40 AM): sure $250
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:00:49 AM): for what?
(5/15/2007 12:01:05 AM): to hang out w me
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:01:10 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:01:18 AM): what will we do?
(5/15/2007 12:01:26 AM): we will hang out
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:01:28 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:01:51 AM): what will u wear?
(5/15/2007 12:02:03 AM): i guess well see how things go
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:02:10 AM): cool
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:02:35 AM): can i add u?
(5/15/2007 12:02:49 AM): no but u can msg me wen u come to town
(5/15/2007 12:02:55 AM): wen r u coming
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:02:59 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:03:05 AM): when is a good time 4 u?
(5/15/2007 12:03:16 AM): u said u dont live here
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:03:34 AM): yup
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:03:40 AM): but i can make plans to come
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:03:49 AM): just tell me where and when, hehe
(5/15/2007 12:04:08 AM): i guess wen u come let me know
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:04:13 AM): ok
(5/15/2007 12:04:17 AM): do u have a pic?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:04:20 AM): what do u do for a living?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:04:22 AM): on my profile
(5/15/2007 12:04:28 AM): send it. im not going to search for it
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:04:37 AM): u have more too?
(5/15/2007 12:05:23 AM): hmmm anymore im not really convinced thats u
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:05:29 AM): it is
(5/15/2007 12:05:37 AM): i see
(5/15/2007 12:05:43 AM): myspace profile?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:05:48 AM): yup
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:05:51 AM): u?
(5/15/2007 12:05:54 AM): link
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:06:04 AM): www.myspace.com/lance_200320032000
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:06:07 AM): u?
(5/15/2007 12:07:00 AM): yes
(5/15/2007 12:07:07 AM): yeah i seriously doubt thats u in the pic
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:07:11 AM): um ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:07:17 AM): it really is, but ok
(5/15/2007 12:07:35 AM): if that were true ud have more pics and ppl on your profile would actually know you
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:08:27 AM): well, u only have 1 too
(5/15/2007 12:08:51 AM): hardly sweetheart. i have 8 pages of pics
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:09:17 AM): lemme see
(5/15/2007 12:09:31 AM): lemme see the webcam you took that pic w/
(5/15/2007 12:09:44 AM): or let me guess its broken/ dont have it/ other room
(5/15/2007 12:09:48 AM): lol exactly
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:09:50 AM): hang on its in the other room in a box
(5/15/2007 12:09:53 AM): take u 2 secs to get it
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:09:56 AM): u really want me to get it?
(5/15/2007 12:10:00 AM): sure, i could use a laugh
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:09 AM): ok, show me a pic too, ok?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:21 AM): u still gonna charge me to hang out?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:22 AM): lol
(5/15/2007 12:10:29 AM): yeah y not? ure looking for a fuck and probably married and ure using a FAKE pic
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:39 AM): what do u do for a living?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:10:42 AM): dancer?
(5/15/2007 12:11:02 AM): no, and i didnt ask what you do so its not really a concern for u
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:11:10 AM): what then?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:11:15 AM): u married?
(5/15/2007 12:11:31 AM): no
(5/15/2007 12:11:33 AM): why would you ask that?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:11:37 AM): i am
(5/15/2007 12:11:51 AM): thats fine. most guys like you are
(5/15/2007 12:11:59 AM): im not shocked
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:12:07 AM): ever met a married man?
(5/15/2007 12:12:30 AM): plenty
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:12:47 AM): mmm
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:12:50 AM): what did u do?
(5/15/2007 12:13:08 AM): dnt worry about it. let me know wen ure serious and want to make a real apt.
(5/15/2007 12:13:10 AM): i dont have time for games
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:13:22 AM): i am baby
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:13:28 AM): i have a friend in cedar park
(5/15/2007 12:13:55 AM): so gonna get on that cam or no?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:13 AM): yeah, but u can't charge me
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:17 AM): if i show u
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:18 AM): :D
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:23 AM): that's my fee
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:14:24 AM): lol
(5/15/2007 12:14:36 AM): k not interested have fun w/ ur friend in cedar park, im here for business not a lame cam show of some guy w/ a fake pic
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:15:52 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:00 AM): i have an 8.5 inchck cock
(5/15/2007 12:16:04 AM): so? why dont you go fuck yourself w/ it
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:07 AM): lol
(5/15/2007 12:16:14 AM): its still $250 for me to have any desire to see it
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:15 AM): i can show u on cam baby
(5/15/2007 12:16:19 AM): congrats. you said that. but failed to show shit
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:40 AM): $250 for a handjob or footjob?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:54 AM): what if i brought my married friend too?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:16:58 AM): $250 each?
(5/15/2007 12:17:01 AM): yep
(5/15/2007 12:17:14 AM): do they all use fake pics of hot young guys too?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:17:18 AM): how far will u go?
(5/15/2007 12:17:26 AM): its obvious this convo is as far as it will ever go and it seems to have run its full course... any last words?
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:17:29 AM): hmm
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:17:35 AM): ever had dp?
(5/15/2007 12:18:08 AM): when u want to make an apt. let me know. i dont discuss these matters. and nice choice for a final comment moron
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:18:20 AM): ok
lance_200320032000 (5/15/2007 12:18:23 AM): ttyl
(5/15/2007 12:18:29 AM): yeah im sure. real soon after i block you

:lol: OMG Jen! He is also Married. I had similar convo on myspace with some married guy: :evil: LOL See attachements below:


----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: xxxxxx

hey babe,my name is xxxxxx,i am from wayne nj, 6'1 210lb,built, brown hair and eyes,25 years old italian . email me back

To which i replied with:

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Hara_Juku Tgirl

LOL. And how far does xxxxxx get online without a profile pic?

Lmao.

~Kisses.

HTG

Then he sent back and answered me with:

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: xxxxxx

lol....go to www.xxxxxxxxxxx.com click on photo gallery then go to ur left and select the date 11-23 under the club xl and go down to picture ..p1011346 i am the one with the gray shirt.

Which prompted me to say:

From: Hara_Juku Tgirl

OMG. LOL. All that work this early in the morning. Just attach it here silly. I got no time to go to peoples websites just to check them out.

Why not upload one or two to your profile here? (meaning myspace)

Grrrr...

~KIsses.

HTG

And he gave me the most candid answer:

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: xxxxxx

I cant. My gf might see. I dont know how. Im worth it. lol

Im like whuteva dude! I bet he is one of those DL guys who secretly likes trannies but isnt hip being out about it. Hes got a gf obviously which he seem to be looking to cheat on. Grrrr...just great isnt it?!? I bet he's got kids too! Lmao :roll:

And If you happen to read this (the guy who messaged me), I mean be realistic..you cant expect everyone to be that dumb and gullible and fall for just a description.

Been there done that and ended up meeting errie looking men who lied upon how they look like which ended with them being ditched at a club or me going out through the back door of a restaurant. LOL.

Bottomline, How do you sell yourself if you dont have any pics to show? Descriptions are easy to make..anyone online can be 6'1 210lb,built, brown hair and eyes,25 years old italian. Its pretty generic description. But showing a pic of yourself..priceless.

Just thought Id share this one. :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BlackAdder]

A bit jaded perspective wouldnt you say Alison???

For myself, any respect i give a girl or transexual has to be earned ....its certainly not extended on the basis of your gender like SOO SOOOOO many girls seem to think.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Arggggg..Here's another one. LOL

wannaalwayswanna (6:35:00 PM): hey you
htg (6:35:38 PM): who is this?
wannaalwayswanna (6:36:03 PM): a horny guy who love trannies
htg (6:36:28 PM): how did you get my YIM?
wannaalwayswanna (6:36:57 PM): i was searching in the members directory for trannies
htg (6:36:53 PM): and why would i care of you like trannies?
htg (6:37:08 PM): sorry
htg (6:37:15 PM): i dont talk to flakes and strangers
wannaalwayswanna (6:37:32 PM): ok fuck u
htg (6:37:39 PM): you wish!
htg (6:37:41 PM): lol
htg (6:38:25 PM): no i dont wish coz maybe u are not sexy
htg (6:38:44 PM): Lmaooooo
htg (6:38:46 PM): Fool
htg (6:38:47 PM): later
wannaalwayswanna (6:38:56 PM): bitch

Why does this fool mad at me? No.1 I dont even know him..I asked how he gotten my YIM handle and he gave me a vague answer. LOL. Like I care what he thinks? NOT! :lol:



~Kisses.

HTG<--Not my YIM.

[hwbs]

damn yall..you arent getting any responses from me on pm..u can just look for your smoke signal ,lol

[ottorocket]

Funny IM Jen. BTW if i am ever in Texas soon i'd insist you let me take you to dinner and a movie...we could talk about that $250 some other time...lol

[blckhaze]

just a hi, a compliment about her(as nonsexual as possible), and a have a good day. If the lady is interested, shell do the talking, if not, at least you've made her a little happier that day.

[tsntx]

Funny IM Jen. BTW if i am ever in Texas soon i'd insist you let me take you to dinner and a movie...we could talk about that $250 some other time...lol

outcalls cost more sweetheart and youre looking at at least 3.5hrs right there... depending on how fast i eat.

[tsntx]

lol at BOTH of HTG msgs.... i get that exact crap daily... so fn lame... thats why my profiles pvt. and i dont add ppl i dont know

[tsntx]

ty for the compliment vanished

[Fox]

Confidence is sexy, arrogance is not. I've gotten shot down before and walked away gracefully only to have her approach me later. A simple introduction has been all I've ever needed.

[BeardedOne]

I'm one of those guys that is either too shy to approach someone or the polar opposite, singing Tom Lehrer songs and hanging a spoon on my nose. Wallflower or attention whore, I don't seem to have a middle ground.

:shrug

Yet sometimes something clicks without having to produce "roses" up front. I've never figured out what the sekrit woids are or what I do or don't do that they find interesting and/or attractive. I'm afraid I might jinx whatever chances I have with the 'Centipede's Dilemma' (When asked how he was able to coordinate all of his legs so as not to trip over his own feet, the centipede sat down and gave it some thought and never walked again - ie: When operating on chance or instinct, all goes well, but actually thinking about it/=trying= to do it, makes it impossible).

On eye-contact and basic, no frills greeting: I was at a conference in Toronto a couple years back and had just come back from dinner at Barberian's, the traditional steakhouse on Elm near Dundas (Highly recommended). I was a bit put out by having missed the opportunity to be interviewed by Naked News (They had been doing man-on-the-street interviews about a block from the restaurant just before we arrived) I decided to stop by the hospitality suite for a bit of cheering up (Free beer and David's Maple Leaf cookies are good cheer-er uppers :D ). As I approached the suite I saw a rather attractive young lady that just oozed 'ordinary' (This is not a bad thing, as I tend to steer away from 'extraordinary' having had too many sour experiences in my past). She turned and saw me looking at her and gave just the hint of a do-I-know-you smile and I smiled back and said "Hi" as I walked up to her.

I guess the '30 second rule' had clicked and my unassuming approach and response was spot on. She reached out and stroked my arm and said "Nice shirt!" (I was still in my finery from the dinner outting) and began a nice, lengthy conversation. Though we experienced quite a bit of touch-n-go over the course of the week, we did finally meet for a genuine 'date' before we had to return home (I to the US and she to BC). For those of you interested in the juicy details, her nose and fingers have been posted here on HA in another thread. Happy hunting! :twisted:

We've had a bit of 'touch-n-go' since then, just as friends, but the initial meeting/week is a sweet memory and did not involve any kind of posing on either of our parts. What's the buzz phrase? "Keep it real"? Yah, that works best.

<Thinking> On reflection, the few successes that I've had when in 'attention whore' mode, show a sort of you-get-what-you-pay-for balance to them. Women that respond positively to such antics are just as likely to be AWs themselves. Cranky, short-tempered, ill-mannered, high-maintenance sexaholics. Hmm...Much like myself. :lol:


It has only been recently that I've installed the Yahoo IM client again, and I've quickly come to realise why I'd managed to do without it for 2-years.

Alison, izzit for the same reason that my only teevee is laying on its side in the kitchen with boxes on top of it? :lol: Useless is as useless does. Can YIM be used as a flower planter? :?:

Though, for chat things maybe you might try Pidgin (Formerly GAIM until AOL kicked their ass). It's a multi-platform message manager and I've been rather happy with it (Primarily with AOL/AIM members). A single program to deal with multiple message clients. Great stuff. You know where to find me. :)


...it soon becomes clear that they're using one of those oversized custom keyboards too.

Heh. :lol: I love the image of the "Man's keyboard". :) Izzat a Far Side that it was based on? Does anyone know? Shit, that's pretty much what I use here. Bach, dick, Beethoven, ass, Nickleback, pussy, and so it goes.


The Internet as a saviour and great communication tool?? I think half the people on the Internet are certifiable nuts. Which begs the question of why they're not out there in their own real lives getting on with what they do if it's so important and they're so good at it.

Speaking for myself, I'd be dead without it. It's common knowledge that I am pretty much a hermit (There's only so many times that you can be beaten, shot at, lied to, cheated, robbed, burgled, accused, imprisoned, overcharged and short-changed before you purposely remove yourself from the cause of the problem: People), so it is by pure miracle that my hermitism came to the fore at the dawning of the Information Age. It is, generally, my only 'social life' and the focus of my primary interests (There's only a handful of real-life people with whom I can share my TS knowledge/interests and the rest are just drinking buddies from work).

Though, having read some of these IM/PM threads/references (Jen's and Hara's as examples), I can safely say that I do not fall into the mold of 'admirer' (No offense to those that are true ADMIRERS) that pops up in the gurl's window and hurls shit (Shite, for you 'Old World' readers) like "Oh, well my dick is only eleven inches long (Cuz if it was twelve it would be a FOOT! Hawhawhaw!), but I am toned and buff and have a Ferrari and live in a mansion on the coast and make a brazilian dollars a month making widgets, so naturally you soooo want me to fuck you!".

:shock:


You know thats odd, because when i make direct eye contact and smile, girls usually go all quiet and shy n shit...to the point of smiling and looking down or away...maybe its a regional thing?????

Hunh. When I do it they look at me and try to remember if they've seen John Walsh or Tom Ridge talking about my picture. :shock:

This past week I had a lovely dinner with one of the gurls from the forums (You know who you are! Hallo!) and though there were some mildly awkward moments (My fault, not hers) the evening was truly memorable and pleasuable (And no, neither one of us shed any clothing). It's really all about being yourself, no lies, no subterfuge, no posing.

Now go. Get out and meet someone nice and have a good time. Um...After you click on the link in my signature, of course. But then, go! Have fun. :lol: